Thanks brother for another awesome video. We had spoke in the pattern testing of the 12g, with Boss ammo. To refresh your memory, I was on the fence of 12g or 20g in the A400 xtreme plus. That being said, I know you just got the 20g. But I only have the ability to buy one or the other for now. If you really had to choose a all around A400 to us for ducks, geese, dove, and turkey. What would you recommend? I did shoulder both in Cabelas, and I loved them both. You are right about the 20g being a little lighter in weight, which is why I was leaning towards the 20g. The only thing is I never shot a 20g, and want to make sure I'm not cutting my self short. Usually shoot ducks/geese under 40 yards, but want to make sure if I did need to take a shot further then 40yards that I wouldn't limit myself because the 20g wouldn't handle it. Will the 20g handle 40 yards or more, or high wind situations? Any insight on your thoughts would greatly help me out. Sorry for the long comment. Thanks again brother
Well as I stand right now I’d say the 12. If you watch my other videos and duck hunts the 12 is the way to go for everything. I think the 20 has some great potential. I just haven’t found a choke I fell in love with. Or the right combo yet. But with the 12 I shoot a kicks high flyer full, with 3/5 mix from boss. And I have a ton of success.
I have the A400 12 gauge, I shoot mostly a kicks high flyer in Full, and my everyday shot shell is a Boss 3” #4 in there 1 3/8oz. I’ve tried a few different chokes and shells. But that combo works great for me on ducks & geese all season long. On windy days I will sometimes shoot 3” #3 Boss. I hope this helps. I’ve been shooting this combo for about 3 years.
Muller's "H2O" 3-set of Decoy, Passing and UFO for the A400 Xtreme Plus 20 gauge will give you options. I use only the Decoy choke on the Xtreme Plus 20 gauge for upland game. Patterns at 25 and 35 yds with 2 3/4" target and upland game loads put every every pellet inside 24" at 25 yds and filled the 24" circle at 35 yds. I'm a smaller and older guy and need the reduced recoil. It's so light with 2 3/4" 1 oz lead or steel loads under 1400 fps that I don't even notice it. Marksmanship becomes more critical with 20 gauges, you will have fewer ammo options, and you'll push fewer pellets down range, but Jim Muller of Muller Chokes recommends finding a load that works best for the type of waterfowl you shoot (puddle or diver) and sticking with it. Pattern tests on CZcams show Bismuth works very well with his chokes. To see why, check out his four part interview at czcams.com/video/VrHlozy550k/video.html on "The MVM Show" for very interesting facts about chokes and ammo for waterfowl hunting. Also, since we're talking about 20 gauge, check out the moderator's pattern test video with the Decoy choke on his Franchi Affinity 3 in 20 gauge using Hevi Bismuth and Jim Muller's recommended pattern target. No matter what you choose, enjoy the experience!
Just bought the exact shotgun and cannot understand the choke tubes. Are you shootings steel through the IM, and can you tell me what CL-C choke is? Great video new sub
Yes. I can understand the frustration. Chokes are literally tightening the barrel down to constrict your shot. They are rated as such open cylinder, improved cylinder, modified, improved modified, full, extra full. Often you don’t want to shoot steel or “duck loads” through anything tighter than improved modified chokes otherwise you risk blowing your barrel out. #2 steel is about all you need for ducks and geese. Shooting lead shot you can get away with tighter chokes like full and extra full because lead compresses. I use muller passing choke which is likely close to an improved mod choke in constriction. With Boss ammunition. It does fantastic.
@@_DRWC_Official thank you for clearing this up bud. Got my first mallard and wood duck yesterday. Was an absolute dream how amazing this pew shoots. Going to check out some Boss ammo also.
Random question. How's that kick off system feel when you try to manually compress it? Mine seems awful stiff almost like it's hanging up. Maybe that's how it's supposed to be but I would have thought it would be more smoothe and easier to compress.
In this particular shotgun I do not feel it at all. This is the smoothest shotgun in regards to recoil. Now in my a300 you can feel the recoil system move in the stock like a piston. Which I have mixed feelings about. But the a400xp is my go to for now. It’s been a great waterfowl gun.
I’ve got a A300 Ultima. Looking for a improved or modified choke with a open spread for about 40-60 yards. Any specific recommendations to help me out?
Dude I love it more than the SBE3 for sure. Feels way better in the hand. Still working o it the logistics on a solid choke tube. I may try a Jebs through it or a helix. Looking for a solid uniform pattern. The muller choke wasn’t bad…but I think it could be better. So, more testing to come.
@@_DRWC_Official Sounds great man, only thing the SBE has over this is the lighter weight. I own a 12ga A400 XP and love it and have been greatly considering the 20ga. Weight is the only issue for me and I know its really not much more than the sbe, like .8lbs more but still. Have you had any cycling issues with it?
@@johnbeilhartiv1042 I’ve had zero cycling issues out of both a400xp 20 & 12…or miss fires. Weight is a thing for me too…but for some reason too light of a gun can make you swing wildly, or you deal with more recoil.
@@_DRWC_Official For sure, I completely understand what you mean by the swing. Im so used to my 12ga A400 I kinda was leaning toards the 20ga version. May as well get a gun Im already used to so I can pick up and shoot either of em wherever and shoot it good.
@@johnbeilhartiv1042 Man I took the 20 out hunting mallards the other day. Smoked two at 25 yards…the 20 is sweet! I’ll have the video up of that here soon!!!
@@_DRWC_Official I have the same gun, does your forearm have a little squeeze to it? When I press on either side of the forearm it hits both sides of the barrel and makes an audible clicking noise. I don’t remember it doing this before, I changed the shims in the stock but I don’t see how that could affect the forearm
I’ve used the muller passing. Boss #4 it’s decent to 35 yards. Looking to try warchief loads from boss to tighten pattern…and possibly trying full choke, and kicks high flyer…video to come soon…
Excellent video! Good to see you again.
It’s duck season 😏😏😏
Thanks brother for another awesome video. We had spoke in the pattern testing of the 12g, with Boss ammo. To refresh your memory, I was on the fence of 12g or 20g in the A400 xtreme plus. That being said, I know you just got the 20g. But I only have the ability to buy one or the other for now. If you really had to choose a all around A400 to us for ducks, geese, dove, and turkey. What would you recommend? I did shoulder both in Cabelas, and I loved them both. You are right about the 20g being a little lighter in weight, which is why I was leaning towards the 20g. The only thing is I never shot a 20g, and want to make sure I'm not cutting my self short. Usually shoot ducks/geese under 40 yards, but want to make sure if I did need to take a shot further then 40yards that I wouldn't limit myself because the 20g wouldn't handle it. Will the 20g handle 40 yards or more, or high wind situations? Any insight on your thoughts would greatly help me out. Sorry for the long comment. Thanks again brother
Well as I stand right now I’d say the 12. If you watch my other videos and duck hunts the 12 is the way to go for everything. I think the 20 has some great potential. I just haven’t found a choke I fell in love with. Or the right combo yet. But with the 12 I shoot a kicks high flyer full, with 3/5 mix from boss. And I have a ton of success.
I have the A400 12 gauge, I shoot mostly a kicks high flyer in Full, and my everyday shot shell is a Boss 3” #4 in there 1 3/8oz. I’ve tried a few different chokes and shells. But that combo works great for me on ducks & geese all season long. On windy days I will sometimes shoot 3” #3 Boss. I hope this helps. I’ve been shooting this combo for about 3 years.
@@Blue_Collar_Hunter appreciate it
Muller's "H2O" 3-set of Decoy, Passing and UFO for the A400 Xtreme Plus 20 gauge will give you options. I use only the Decoy choke on the Xtreme Plus 20 gauge for upland game. Patterns at 25 and 35 yds with 2 3/4" target and upland game loads put every every pellet inside 24" at 25 yds and filled the 24" circle at 35 yds. I'm a smaller and older guy and need the reduced recoil. It's so light with 2 3/4" 1 oz lead or steel loads under 1400 fps that I don't even notice it. Marksmanship becomes more critical with 20 gauges, you will have fewer ammo options, and you'll push fewer pellets down range, but Jim Muller of Muller Chokes recommends finding a load that works best for the type of waterfowl you shoot (puddle or diver) and sticking with it. Pattern tests on CZcams show Bismuth works very well with his chokes. To see why, check out his four part interview at czcams.com/video/VrHlozy550k/video.html on "The MVM Show" for very interesting facts about chokes and ammo for waterfowl hunting. Also, since we're talking about 20 gauge, check out the moderator's pattern test video with the Decoy choke on his Franchi Affinity 3 in 20 gauge using Hevi Bismuth and Jim Muller's recommended pattern target. No matter what you choose, enjoy the experience!
Just bought the exact shotgun and cannot understand the choke tubes. Are you shootings steel through the IM, and can you tell me what CL-C choke is? Great video new sub
Yes. I can understand the frustration. Chokes are literally tightening the barrel down to constrict your shot. They are rated as such open cylinder, improved cylinder, modified, improved modified, full, extra full. Often you don’t want to shoot steel or “duck loads” through anything tighter than improved modified chokes otherwise you risk blowing your barrel out. #2 steel is about all you need for ducks and geese. Shooting lead shot you can get away with tighter chokes like full and extra full because lead compresses. I use muller passing choke which is likely close to an improved mod choke in constriction. With Boss ammunition. It does fantastic.
@@_DRWC_Official thank you for clearing this up bud. Got my first mallard and wood duck yesterday. Was an absolute dream how amazing this pew shoots. Going to check out some Boss ammo also.
@@countrylivin9963Heck yea brother where ya from?
Random question. How's that kick off system feel when you try to manually compress it? Mine seems awful stiff almost like it's hanging up. Maybe that's how it's supposed to be but I would have thought it would be more smoothe and easier to compress.
In this particular shotgun I do not feel it at all. This is the smoothest shotgun in regards to recoil. Now in my a300 you can feel the recoil system move in the stock like a piston. Which I have mixed feelings about. But the a400xp is my go to for now. It’s been a great waterfowl gun.
I’ve got a A300 Ultima. Looking for a improved or modified choke with a open spread for about 40-60 yards. Any specific recommendations to help me out?
I’m still looking myself. Im waiting on info from a buddy on a Jebs choke.
I’m still looking myself. Im waiting on info from a buddy on a Jebs choke.
40-60 yards your mostly gonna want to shoot a full or extra full choke, modified at best for 40 yards but full beyond that.
How are you liking the A400 20ga? Ive been considering it and a SBE3 20ga.
Dude I love it more than the SBE3 for sure. Feels way better in the hand. Still working o it the logistics on a solid choke tube. I may try a Jebs through it or a helix. Looking for a solid uniform pattern. The muller choke wasn’t bad…but I think it could be better. So, more testing to come.
@@_DRWC_Official Sounds great man, only thing the SBE has over this is the lighter weight. I own a 12ga A400 XP and love it and have been greatly considering the 20ga. Weight is the only issue for me and I know its really not much more than the sbe, like .8lbs more but still. Have you had any cycling issues with it?
@@johnbeilhartiv1042 I’ve had zero cycling issues out of both a400xp 20 & 12…or miss fires. Weight is a thing for me too…but for some reason too light of a gun can make you swing wildly, or you deal with more recoil.
@@_DRWC_Official For sure, I completely understand what you mean by the swing. Im so used to my 12ga A400 I kinda was leaning toards the 20ga version. May as well get a gun Im already used to so I can pick up and shoot either of em wherever and shoot it good.
@@johnbeilhartiv1042 Man I took the 20 out hunting mallards the other day. Smoked two at 25 yards…the 20 is sweet! I’ll have the video up of that here soon!!!
Can you get this gun in left handed?
I know you can get the 12 gauge in left hand. But not sure about the 20. I’d imagine so.
Hey have you ever taken the stock off the gun to change shims?
I have not. The gun fits perfectly in its factory setting.
@@_DRWC_Official I have the same gun, does your forearm have a little squeeze to it? When I press on either side of the forearm it hits both sides of the barrel and makes an audible clicking noise. I don’t remember it doing this before, I changed the shims in the stock but I don’t see how that could affect the forearm
Did you ever find a solid choke for this gun for Boss loads?
I’ve used the muller passing. Boss #4 it’s decent to 35 yards. Looking to try warchief loads from boss to tighten pattern…and possibly trying full choke, and kicks high flyer…video to come soon…
@@_DRWC_Officialhave you shot Boss number 5s out of the Muller? I’d think you would get a better pattern than the 4s
@@nathanielchoate69yes and I’m producing a video on it soon
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