Wahoo KICKR CORE - Unboxing, Setup, and 1st Ride Impressions
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Let's go for a ride on the Wahoo Kickr Core - one of the best value direct-drive bike trainers with +/- 2% power accuracy.
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The best setup vid for the Kickr Core on CZcams! Well done.
I learned from 2 of the best ;) Thanks!
Excellent set up vid. I got this earlier this year and have been loving it. Agree, the tilt to the right takes some getting used to and could probably be improved upon. I just got used to it and don't really notice it now. Otherwise, I'm very happy with it.
Nice! Glad the video helped. Enjoy your trainer!
Immensely useful. Great presentation style too, thanks
Glad it helped. Thanks!
You should not have to make modificaitons but until your warranty expires, you could put on a pipe extension. Start with the longest leg and make it longer on the right side. That should help.
MRo at least my Wahoo Kickr Core comes with legs which are not centered. When you follow the stickers the right side where you are will have the shorter side which I would say is indeed not what you want, so I rotated them having the longer side on the right where the cassette is. This brings the stickers on the bottom so I don’t see them anymore but I think it does give more stability having a bit more centimeters, I would say 2cm more on both legs.
I think Wahoo is just putting the stickers on incorrectly!?
Kickr's are great machines, but I prefer my E-Motion Rollers from InsideRide. Best outdoor like ride experience I've had !
FYI - Cadence is now supported in the latest firmware
Yup!
Now includes cadence after firmware update, amazingly silent after a few uses as well
Great tool for fitness, far better value than my friends with their Peletons
Is there an official announcement that you can share??
Is it okay to leave your front wheel like that or do I need some kinds of a locker?
I just got one of these and plan to set it up this weekend. I plan to use my old MacBook Pro (2012) for the software interface. Does the kickr core connect with bluetooth to a computer or will I need an additional piece of equipment? Also, do you need to run it with Zwift or can you ride it to non interactive vireos like CTXCvideos on CZcams? Thanks!
Where can I Fond the long time Review you talked about?
Nice video, really well explained to viewers. Would you recommend a smart trainer for high mileage bike usage? I struggle to make time to ride outdoors and indoor is better for time efficiency.
Absolutely. You can get a more dense workout indoors since you’re generally not coasting or going downhill.
The slight left-right sway of the freewheel & resistance unit as you peddled seemed a bit concerning, in terms of both ride feel and stability and long-term fatigue on the metal and joints.
Since this is a 5 year old video, have those proven to be issues at all, and was your use of two pads, the top one of which appeared to be kind of squishy, the main cause of this sway, and not the Core?
I just ordered one and am patiently awaiting its arrival so I'm just curious. Overall how have you liked your Core and do you still have it or have you switched to something else?
Just found your channel, really cool content, keep up the good work.
Thanks so much!
Regarding stability, at least my Wahoo Kickr Core comes with legs which are not centered, by 2cm. When you follow the stickers like in your video the right side where your bike/cassete is will have the shorter side which I would say is indeed not what you want, so I rotated them having the longer side on the right where the cassette is. This brings the stickers on the bottom so I don’t see them anymore but I think it does give more stability having a bit more centimeters, I would say 2cm more on both legs.
I think Wahoo is just putting the stickers on incorrectly so that you bring the longer side to the left while you want it on the right!?
Wow, I think you are onto something! I just checked mine and indeed, the rear (narrower) leg was as you say, 2cm longer on the "wrong" (left) side, although the front (wider leg) was correct - 2cm longer on the "correct" (right) side. I think somebody at the factory (label installer, and quality control) is not paying attention!
@@davidrowe8747 oh interesting for me it was both. Looks more like they don’t pay well attention to on which side they put the stickers on, or just aren’t even aware of it🤔😉 But I understand you also like it much better this way😎 probably also not everybody will notice much difference.
Can you do a video of the kickr core with a MTB. No one has reviews of smart trainers with mountain bikes. Not all of us have a second bike ( road bike ) to put on trainer. Is it comfortable for MTB. Would you need to lock out your suspension
It would be fine for your MTB. To work on pedal stroke you may want to lock out your suspension. However, keeping it unlocked may also help you with replicating how it feels in real life.
hi... since u were saying u been using elite direto before.... which is u choose in a way of the performance and data summary analysis? comparing these two... im planning to buy either these two, just not sure which....
Thank you for the video Des! One question, have you found the tipping to be a big issue? My main concern is stability when I'm really pushing the power. Would it be worth the extra $300 for the kickr if my main concern is stability?
Hi, is it possible to give some update for 2021, is it stil worth buying, were there any software updates that fixed some of your issues, improvements,...? Do you think they will release a new kickr core? It’s because I can buy on in a store for 659 euro’s. Is this a fair price or should I wait. Thanks alot and thanks alot for all the great content, always really helpful and very informative!
Excellent set-up video - the most thorough I have seen for the Kickr Core. When you were pedalling out of the seat, there seemed to be a lot of flex in the trainer e.g., at 8:50) - was that just the legs sinking into the soft mat, or is there actually some flex? The legs didn't look to be moving, so it seems like the main body of the trainer actually flexes, which isn't very reassuring.
It was just the mat - it’s a very solid trainer in construction. The only issue I had was the slight imbalance due to the leg offset but that’s only noticeable out of the saddle on really hard sprints. Thanks!
hello i only have a mtb with 12x148 thru axle & 12 speed - will i need to purchase any additional parts (such as a freehub body)?
Hey Des,
Kind of a difficult question to answer because it looks like you're on a concrete slab floor, but have you noticed any low frequency vibrations from the freewheel? Curious what the device is like for people in smaller accommodations. For example, as you mention the Elite Direto isn't "loud" per say, but I find it definitely produces very transmissible vibrations that would be inappropriate for an apartment setup.
You’re absolutely correct when it comes to the vibration from the Direto. The Core is very minimal. I’ll take it up to my bedroom this weekend and see how it feels/sounds.
I had the Kickr Core for 2 weeks and returned it due to the vibration. Somehow reviewers always seem to have concrete floors so they never notice how poor the Kickr Core is. I swapped to the Neo 2 which has WAY less vibration. It's not silent either on a wooden floor but doesn't vibrate so much that your neighbors have issues. Also Neo 2 power agrees with the Vector 3 (and other sources) whereas Kickr Core was 30 Watts off. Look at the Facebook community groups for each before making a decision, you'll be surprised at the difference in the comments between them.
Mine clicks the whole way down as it freewheels, where yours sounds like it's silent. Why the difference? Does my 2019 model have something built differently than in 2018?
Hi Des. Enjoyed your video! You may have explained this in a previous video; however, where did you get the gym mat flooring from and how much does it cost. Thanks Brad
Hi Brad, first off, great avatar photo! It was some cheap stuff that I got at a local(ish) sports retailer called Big 5. It was maybe $30 or something like that. May be able to find something similar on the Amazons. Thanks!
What's your opinion between this model and Tacx flux or neo smart ?
Is it very unstable ?? Thanks
What is that " knocking " noise when you coasting ? Starts at 8:28
I ordered a shimano cassette for mine and there was a spacer on the backside of the large cog, is that needed?
Depends on the cassette body. Sometimes needed to ensure it can be tightened properly.
It seems like unless you have a cassette lying around getting this plus a cassette could push you close to the Kickr price-wise, so I wonder how relevant this product is? Maybe I’m missing something here.
A cassette can be had for less than $60 depending of course on your setup. A nice cassette maybe around $100 (unless you are talking about SRAM Eagle or something). Plus, there are plenty of barely used cassettes on marketplaces like Craig List (should be about half of new, most with little to no wear).
Just bought an 11 speed Shimano 105 cassette from REI for $39.
Greg Golly cool...glad to see that it doesn’t cost too much!
Also, no cadence sensor is included with the Core. When you consider the price difference and the fact that ideally you need a.cassette and want the cadence sensor.....then factor in the better stability with adjustable height.
At the end of the day when you amortized the price difference over the number of years that you use it the extra money starts to make a lot of sense.
Hi Des, just found your channel. Amazing content, Thank you! You mention a full review of the Direto, is that still coming up? I'm shopping for my first ever direct drive trainer, and trying to decide between the Direto, Kickr Core, and Drivo1 - as all are now priced in the same price range I'm looking for. Is there one you would say is hands down better? Anyways glad to subscribe to your channel and enjoy the great videos. Thanks.
Thanks Alvin. I'm wrapping up the Direto long-term review this weekend. Should be out early next week. I would lean towards the Core for the most part - great accuracy, very silent, however, in general about $100 more than the other two depending on where you are shopping. But as you saw from this video, the Core is not centered which is kind of odd. The Direto is an extremely stable trainer and with it's wide legs and you can really lay down some power without worrying about tipping on either side.
I bought a kickr Core recently and its great apart from one thing. I find the bike leans slightly to the right and sometimes if im out of the saddle i need to compensate by turning the front wheel a little right, does anyone else experience this?
Definitely, as I mentioned in the video.
Is it necessary to have a cadence sensor for zwift? I've got one on already its ANT+ (Garmin) I can get an ANT+ USB...but will this work with a Apple tv 4K?
Not if you have a smart trainer
Hi, I have a question. Why zwift has a big lag in reporting the speed. Most of the time I am going to 25-28mph and it says 4mph. Is there a way I can fix it? thank you
On the Core?
Hi, thanks for the video! If the choice is between elite direto xr (750 euro) or wahoo kickr core (799 euro)
What do you recommend?
As far as I understand that it is only in the output values. What about the quality and time of service?
Elite and Wahoo seem to both have good support and service. I tend to like the Direto XR because of its ride feel and it will be a bit more stable than the Core. The Core may be just a smidge quieter but both are near silent. Thanks!
@@DesFit Thanks for the answer! ERG mode is not much different?
Hi Desfit!I have just recently found your channel and i love your content.I want to ask you something,i dont have smart watch or fitness watch and i want to buy one and i want to spend about 200-300 euros,what watch would you suggest for me to buy?I am thinking to buy garmin vivoactive 3 music.Thank you!
Thanks! The Vivoactive 3 Music is a good option. Now that Spotify has been released for the Forerunner 645 Music and fenix 5, I would expect to see that functionality sometime in the future. Not sure exactly when, however, but I would guess within a few months.
Battery life on the forerunner 645 is much better.
Do you need to buy a front wheel raiser block for the Core
The Core does not come with a riser block. Phone books always work :)
Hello friend! I am a fan of your CZcams channel, but I would like to ask you a favor, you can put the option in your videos so that the subtitles appear in Spanish. Thanks greetings.
is it unstable to the point that the original 2018 kickr is a better buy?
If you stand and sprint a lot, maybe, but for me, the cost difference won’t make me upgrade.
do you indicate to buy the Wahoo Kickr Core ? dou you think its a good equipament?
Very good. Small issue being it’s susceptible to leaning to the right hand side but other than that it’s solid
Bonjour , et par rapport au DIRETO XR niveau bruit, car sur le papier le XR est beaucoup mieux?
I'd say that the Kickr Core is more silent than the Direto XR but the Direto XR is very quiet. Plus, I like the ride feel much better on the Direto X/XR.
@@DesFit Dear Desfit. As always great reviews! I was wondering, what do you think the difference in road-feel could be attributed to? Flywheel size between core and directo XR is the same. I noticed you also mentioned before that you like the ride feel of the directo XR better than the Kickr V5 (which has a even heavier flywheel!) and also the taxc neo. Is something else, then the flywheel, responsible for the roadfeel? All the best Malte
Do you know if I can use my Assioma DUO pedals for cadence, for power it's clear that you can but what about cadence only?
That may depend on the device that you're using to record the data. For instance, with a Polar device it lumps all the available data from one device into one (like speed, power, cadence from an indoor trainer) but with others you can separate that out.
Mine clicks like a regular cassette during freewheeling...
Is it compatible with Kickr Climb?
Yup, sure is.
Would this trainer work with a bike that has solid rear axle instead of quick release?
It should as long as your dropouts are thick enough.
Would I just use the thru axle adapter?
The KICKR core is compatible with 12x142 and 12x148mm thru axles and you’ll use your existing axle to mount it.
2:41 Deez NUTZ
How do I install an 8 speed cassette on this?
You may need just a couple cassette spacers. May.
So is it worth it?
It’s a good value
@@DesFit interms of performance.
Yup
You went to an "app" . You should have been more specific on which app an how to get it.
When you are not sure of torque, snug and 1/4 turn :)
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USB ANT+ dongle NOT included
Did they mention somewhere that it included one? I didn't happen to see that on their website: www.wahoofitness.com/devices/bike-trainers/kickr-core-indoor-smart-trainer
When I stop pedaling on my Kickr Core the it makes a clicking sound (similar to the one when pedaling backwards) did I set up or mount something wrong?
Normal - just the freewheeling sound like a normal bike.
I though it was only me who had clicky cleats.
You are not alone. 😎
@@DesFit I've got a random knocking coming from my bottom bracket too.
It clearly tilts to the right, and only to the right, and too much tilting. If it tilts to both sides, it's ok, but this is lame.
Does the flex cause any concern? I feel like half a degree tilted to the right when riding and based on your video, seems like you are too. Other than that and a dropout every now and then, I’ve enjoyed the Core.
Upon further inspection, the legs aren’t parallel either. 🤷🏻♂️
Ich kotz grad voll ab, jede dritte Fahrt muss ich abbrechen weil der scheiss kickr core ständig den ERG modus verliert und sich neu verbinden muss. Wenn er funktionieren würde wäre ja schön aber da war der alte Tacx Flow ohne smart doch irgendwie besser.
Ich will den grad irgendwie zurück schicken aber dann bekomm ich warscheinlich erst nen neuen wenn der Winter rum ist..... echt voll zum kotzen.