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  • Danny Gatton's performance from Austin City Limits.
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  • @lanes58
    @lanes58 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Danny suffered from depression for years. Had he gotten the help that he needed he would be alive today. He also struggled with the record companies, trying to get the deal and recognition he deserved.

  • @tuckerlivingston8294
    @tuckerlivingston8294 Před 4 lety +17

    ok, i was mental prepared for the beer bottle playing, but NOT the towel playing. MIND BLOWN

  • @davidkelly392
    @davidkelly392 Před 3 lety +31

    Les Paul, Chet Atkins, Roy Clark and his own special style mixed together......saw him at a Rock-a-billy reunion at theWax museum in Washington DC back in the day..... Incredible doesn't even describe the experience!!!

    • @eastwest42286
      @eastwest42286 Před 2 lety +2

      A little Roy Buchanan mixed in there somewhere as well.

  • @randyporter3491
    @randyporter3491 Před 3 lety +68

    I was about to say the sax player is a beast, then I started watching the bass player... These guys are just incredible !

    • @jimh3267
      @jimh3267 Před 2 lety

      Great band.

    • @burkevilleproduction
      @burkevilleproduction Před rokem +1

      What happened beginning at 1:58 -3:32? The sax player rattled Danny. He just TOOK OFF!

    • @robertflagg2461
      @robertflagg2461 Před rokem +3

      Always have to have a good rhythm section to back up front guy and all these guys are as good as Danny himself
      Which makes him sound even better.nobody is over playing anybody,all backing each other up,like bluegrass music does

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio Před 10 měsíci

      Great producer too. Terry Lickona.

    • @Quinceps
      @Quinceps Před 8 měsíci

      @jaimiedirks1215Who’s that guy??

  • @InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe
    @InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe Před 7 měsíci +5

    So glad my friend Francis dragged me to go see Danny Gatton live somewhere in DC off of Wisconsin Avenue.

  • @justinbaskin5283
    @justinbaskin5283 Před 3 lety +195

    "Danny Gatton comes closer than anyone else to being the best guitar player that ever lived." -Steve Vai.

    • @justinbaskin5283
      @justinbaskin5283 Před 3 lety +1

      @@neilarmschlong6315 maybe bring your hate elsewhere?

    • @justinbaskin5283
      @justinbaskin5283 Před 3 lety

      @@neilarmschlong6315 apology accepted, my fellow wank.

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 Před 3 lety +7

      Vai wasn't bad at all, even if a bit 1-dimensional. However, his statement is dead center bullseye, regardless of his guitar skills or his ability to speak (musically) to a wide audience. Vai's pretty well unknown outside his flavor of guitar, but Gatton was admired by almost anyone who could play the electric with any skill. It's no joke that he was known as "the Humbler" by almost anyone who saw him play.

    • @justinbaskin5283
      @justinbaskin5283 Před 3 lety +2

      @@seanoneil277 I agree! thank you for the respectful comment; hard to come across these days

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 Před 3 lety +1

      @@justinbaskin5283 Danny Gatton & I share the same hometown and I shamefully never got to see him play live when I lived back there and he was still alive. I had the opportunities but I was too interested in what played at 9:30 Club rather than Club Soda or the Birchmere in those days.
      I like electric guitar music and honestly Vai isn't my favorite kind of playing, but I respect his abilities and as you can see, Vai understood just how good Danny Gatton was.

  • @TheAnimeist
    @TheAnimeist Před 9 měsíci +8

    Was not expecting a magic show. The whole band blew me away. And who knew you could play a towel like that?

  • @darrenhughes8106
    @darrenhughes8106 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Danny could play anything he heard or wanted to play.unbelievable how good he is with all types of music

  • @SlappingMonkeyDog
    @SlappingMonkeyDog Před 2 lety +10

    I have watched this a thousand times and say this is the Greatest musicianship I have ever seen in my 55years tromping this Earth.

    • @carlcampbell6827
      @carlcampbell6827 Před 5 měsíci

      You will not get an argument from me! I ran across Albert Lee / Danny Gatton show at Ventura County Fairground Rod and Custom Show in So CA. The whole place was mesmerized by these rockabilly masters; seriously! You think this video is fabulous; you ought to see these guys in person!

  • @randyheath8566
    @randyheath8566 Před 3 lety +15

    I really miss this Guy. Rest In Peace Guitar 🎸 Brother

  • @2787sharts
    @2787sharts Před 6 lety +62

    Everyone in this band is jaw - dropping amazing

  • @eastwest42286
    @eastwest42286 Před 2 lety +16

    That lick from 21:00 - 21:50 = pure bliss.

  • @myimorata7678
    @myimorata7678 Před rokem +14

    Wonderful performer. His was a terrible loss. RIP Danny. Thanks for the great music and I hope the demons have been silenced at last.

    • @tomjoad9447
      @tomjoad9447 Před 8 měsíci

      I saw him live.. he looked bored and turned his back to the crowd full of adoring worshippers...jerk

    • @wai701b6
      @wai701b6 Před 10 hodinami

      ​@@tomjoad9447 Depression can come on at a moments notice, which probably happened to Danny during the show you attended. Sorry your feelings were hurt.

  • @grantdickey
    @grantdickey Před rokem +7

    21:50 the beer, the spill, the towel Unbelievable!! It's the greatest guitar moment I've ever seen. I've lived in Nashville my whole life. I've been to #Robertswesternworld so many times I've seen the Don Kelly band and all the boys that have come through. Guntrie Trapp Ford Thurston Daniel Donato Brent Mason Jonny Hiland JD Simo and a few of the others. #Nashvillelovesyou #615boys

  • @mhmoretti
    @mhmoretti Před 4 lety +30

    This was one big 'get off my lawn' to so many musicians. Outstanding musicianship by everyone

  • @randydogs61
    @randydogs61 Před 3 lety +45

    He was known in the Wash DC area as the Humbler when folks were trying to outplay him on the stage, Simply put he was one of a kind.

    • @justinbaskin5283
      @justinbaskin5283 Před 3 lety +2

      absolutely!

    • @eastwest42286
      @eastwest42286 Před 2 lety +4

      Hell yeah. Gatton was an otherworldly player, yet so humble. Taken away from us far too soon.

  • @thomasd9237
    @thomasd9237 Před 3 měsíci +3

    He was truly epic. You are missed my friend 😢

  • @jimmyrecce8787
    @jimmyrecce8787 Před 2 lety +2

    You had Danny...and everyone else who wished they could play like Danny...and that's a fact...🎸🎸🎸

  • @miserable.day1969
    @miserable.day1969 Před 13 dny +1

    Found DG by way of Robert Gordon who played "Someday, Someway" on an episode of SCTV in the early 1980s. What an amazing guitar player.

  • @devonmarley1883
    @devonmarley1883 Před 6 lety +13

    Danny is awesome,a true rockabilly, country,jazz,blues tele king.Rest in peace Danny,thank you for the amazing music and chops... i just wanna let people know about another underated guitar tele MASTER/VIRTUOSO,SCOTTY ANDERSON...SCOTTY is truly from another planet....

    • @claytongillaspy8847
      @claytongillaspy8847 Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed Devon I’ve seen Scotty live in Cincinnati and I believe he’s the best guitarist alive today and equal to Danny or better in some areas no doubt both incredible players along with Rory Gallagher Alvin lee Gary Moore tommy bolin jr brown

  • @billlowe6883
    @billlowe6883 Před 2 lety +10

    What a show and incredibly talented musicians. W O W !

  • @cornelmasson4610
    @cornelmasson4610 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Good grief! How did I miss this guy...?

    • @sonnynorwood882
      @sonnynorwood882 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Look up Lenny Breau too, if you missed him. So many monsters, so little fame.

  • @SW-jw6il
    @SW-jw6il Před 10 měsíci +1

    😎 listening to greatness in Texas USA 2023 !! That’s My Kinda Jam ❤️

  • @marshallderriek1858
    @marshallderriek1858 Před rokem +7

    John candy was incredible on sax

  • @randyporter3491
    @randyporter3491 Před 3 lety +12

    Best I can tell, the greatest guitarist ever, has surrounded himself with band members who play roughly six instruments each and play them masterfully. What's not to appreciate.

  • @Ledprostate
    @Ledprostate Před 3 lety +7

    A lot of Tele wizards around. Something about that guitar that brings out the greatness in players. Albert Lee, Roy, Danny...

    • @FretboardToAsh
      @FretboardToAsh Před 3 lety +3

      I think it's just the brutal simplicity of it to be honest. Nothing to hide behind so the player has to make it good by themselves.

    • @DemnRaig80
      @DemnRaig80 Před 2 lety

      I just got one not long ago. It's absolutely fun to play!

    • @yantheyam5622
      @yantheyam5622 Před 3 měsíci

      Albert Collins

  • @jimmyrecce8787
    @jimmyrecce8787 Před rokem +1

    You had Danny..then everyone else who wished they could play like Danny...🎸🎸🎸

  • @grahambeam3642
    @grahambeam3642 Před 3 lety +4

    Just poppin in. 2020 and your still the best ever.

  • @Fred.pSonic
    @Fred.pSonic Před 8 měsíci +1

    23:35 Talk about your clean playing! I come back to this video time and time again just to watch Danny turn a towel into a wah-wah, simply amazing. I bow down to thee, a massive massive loss of talent. RIP Great Master of the Telecaster.

  • @itsmemckee2110
    @itsmemckee2110 Před 3 lety +5

    So funny this showed up in my feed. He was a big influence to my brother. My brother has been a session guitar player in Nashville for about 10 years.

    • @yantheyam5622
      @yantheyam5622 Před 3 měsíci

      That's a badass brother you got there

  • @stevenrajsk2015
    @stevenrajsk2015 Před 2 lety +2

    Luv it! The first time i heard Danny I ran out and bought some Joe Barden pickups (In a new custom shop Tele) been using them only for almost 35 years now.Thanks DANNY GATTON and JOE BARDEN and LEO FENDER......sirs.

  • @edwardmiller4709
    @edwardmiller4709 Před 4 lety +8

    I saw Danny at the Bottle And Cork in Dewey Beach, De. on a rainy night one summer. The crowd was not very big but he was amazing, as always. I played with some guys who knew him in the 90's. I've seen and worked with guys with chops similar to his but Danny was incredible. No one plays like that.

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 Před 3 lety +1

      Great opportunity to see him in that setting. When Danny was alive, Dewey was still a pretty sleepy little beach town.

    • @georgedavis8412
      @georgedavis8412 Před 2 lety

      It wasn’t just the notes he played, but also the way he made the guitar sound.

  • @MrJackal43
    @MrJackal43 Před 6 lety +15

    Holy shit! The sax player! WTF is that guy smoking? I want some! Danny G Fn rocks!

  • @unkaswine
    @unkaswine Před 3 lety +6

    I remember when this first aired back in the mid-late 90’s. If Austin City Limits ever wanted to do a “Best Of” type thing, all they’d need do is re-broadcast this show. Rest In Peace, Danny Gatton. You were a helluva guitar picker. ❤️🎸

  • @avitarmagnus9090
    @avitarmagnus9090 Před 6 lety +7

    We sure miss Danny God have mercy

  • @zackvanhalen
    @zackvanhalen Před 4 lety +7

    The song starting around 12:20 is my favorite from this show. I think it's one of the coolest instrumentals I've ever heard.

    • @knightfall9394
      @knightfall9394 Před 4 lety +3

      red label it is pretty catchy i used to walk thru the warehouse where i work and hum in the melody he plays later in the tune

    • @tinyPaleBlueDot
      @tinyPaleBlueDot Před 6 měsíci

      It's funny, as I was reading comments this is the part of the video that was playing when I got to yours. When the song started I just had a feeling that this would be my favorite of the video. So reading your comment made me double down on my suspicion. I used to watch this when it first came out on PBS but it's been so long I really don't remember anything other than the beer spillage followed by the towel.

  • @philgrossblatt6434
    @philgrossblatt6434 Před 5 měsíci

    Maryland boy and DG fan since I was a teen. We’re so lucky to be able to watch these amazing performances!

  • @johnkoval1898
    @johnkoval1898 Před rokem +2

    What a highly entertaining, skilled, professional, and enjoyable lineup of musicians!!

  • @tommyboydmd9941
    @tommyboydmd9941 Před 3 lety +3

    Just seeing this band for the first time! Are you kidding me?!! Holy @#**!!

  • @gangofgreenhorns2672
    @gangofgreenhorns2672 Před 3 lety +12

    That little look that Danny gives after Holloway's sax solo at 3:30 is priceless lmao, he knows dude absolutely crushed it.

    • @tunafang
      @tunafang Před 3 lety +3

      2 of the absolute greatest banging it out together. What a show!

  • @jmflyer55
    @jmflyer55 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ive no clue who the guy is on keyboard and horns, but he plays the heck out of them all! ... Fantastic

  • @bconigliaro
    @bconigliaro Před 20 dny +3

    Danny Gatton, Roy Buchanan & Roy Clark all came out of D.C. Which is why it's our nation's capital. Jeff "Skunk" Baxter may have come from there, too, but I'm too tired to research just right now. If he did, that's some Mount Rushmore.

  • @alanlatimer1024
    @alanlatimer1024 Před měsícem

    I remember this when it was live being astounded by Danny's incredible guitar playing and I've been to a lot of concerts seen people 15 feet from the stage

  • @christoguichard4311
    @christoguichard4311 Před 2 lety +4

    Amazed that DG and SRV never played together.
    That would have been something to see!

  • @pgreenx
    @pgreenx Před 2 lety +3

    Roy Buchanon is also the worlds greatest unknown grist. Unfortualtely we will never see either of them again

  • @jhalqu8209
    @jhalqu8209 Před 4 lety +3

    25 years gone! Maestro.

  • @pappydaddy7447
    @pappydaddy7447 Před rokem

    We used to see Danny Gatton play in local bars. I’m pretty sure none of us punks really appreciated his musical style BUT we would just watch in awe as he played circles around everyone else.
    Daniel Wood Gatton Jr.
    September 4, 1945 - October 4, 1994

  • @Craiglyhead
    @Craiglyhead Před rokem +1

    He was/is a treasure.

  • @richc3440
    @richc3440 Před 6 lety +51

    The Sax player is amazing.

    • @wrxplayer
      @wrxplayer Před 6 lety +16

      His name is Bill Holloman. I'm a tenor player and confirm he "kills". HIs solo in the first tune is my favorite sax solo in live rock/blues.

    • @grahambeam3642
      @grahambeam3642 Před 3 lety +4

      Hell yeah . Was good say the same. Looks like John candy also

    • @unkaswine
      @unkaswine Před 3 lety +3

      Bill Holloman........a MONSTER musician.

    • @dannyc1174
      @dannyc1174 Před 3 lety +3

      Yup, Bill Holloman - one great musician and stage performer. From CT, I believe - at least played in CT band Eight to the Bar back in the 80's. Used to see him at a club in Stowe VT - walked the bar with his sax. He has a major portfolio of playing with a LOT of big name stars, inc. Danny

    • @ConradHauserMD
      @ConradHauserMD Před 3 lety +2

      George Lucas plays a mean Saxamophone

  • @InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe
    @InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe Před 7 měsíci +1

    My, God! And so clean!

  • @jimlucas3872
    @jimlucas3872 Před 2 lety +3

    G.O.A.T. Period, end of story, don’t even argue it….

  • @mikesharpsongs
    @mikesharpsongs Před 7 měsíci +4

    School is in session...

  • @sidtaylor5016
    @sidtaylor5016 Před 3 lety +3

    Danny is amazing, backed by an equally amazing band!

  • @mydogneo
    @mydogneo Před 6 lety +3

    Wow i am truly lovin this! Gatton is fantastic! Oh that beer slide! WOW!

  • @sonnynorwood882
    @sonnynorwood882 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Even the beer is excited. LOL!

  • @tinyPaleBlueDot
    @tinyPaleBlueDot Před 6 měsíci +1

    I first became aware of Danny gatton when he was featured in Guitar Player magazine. They had a sound page with some of his music on and I was totally blown away (I'm probably just making this up, but I want to say that the recording was made specifically for that issue of Guitar Player). I put it on a cassette tape and listened to it compulsively. There was only one other sound page that I got hooked on which was Scarified by Racer X/Paul Gilbert. Honorable mention goes to Pepper Shake by Greg Howe. I must have collected at least a dozen or two of those sound pages before they were discontinued, but these three are the only ones I remember. Anyway, I'd really love to hear the Danny Gatton sound page again. If anyone has a lead which could point me in the right direction I'd be forever grateful!

  • @rjrj101
    @rjrj101 Před 4 lety +6

    That sax player is off the hook.

    • @ronshawver6880
      @ronshawver6880 Před 3 lety +1

      Absolutely. Great musician. All around! Fantastic!

  • @coinneachmaclellan3121
    @coinneachmaclellan3121 Před 10 dny +2

    You can really hear Danny Gatton paying tribute to Scotty Moore and Les Paul on those rockabilly numbers...

  • @projektgrudge
    @projektgrudge Před 3 lety +6

    Here's a guy who doesn't even need to say 'Hold my beer...' before he blows you away with his guitar.

    • @bassmansrv9970
      @bassmansrv9970 Před 3 lety

      Try watching SRV on ACL this is nothing, just a shitty imitator of Roy Buchanan in my opinion

    • @seanoneil277
      @seanoneil277 Před 3 lety +2

      @@bassmansrv9970 SRV and Danny Gatton are as different as Picasso and Manet. WTF are you talking about here? There's no competition between Vaughn and Gatton now, nor when both guys were alive.

  • @rhysdrader9972
    @rhysdrader9972 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm gobsmacked❤

  • @russellcyr4867
    @russellcyr4867 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Requirement for being in this band is to be the best in the world at your instrument.

  • @stevehearne
    @stevehearne Před 9 měsíci +1

    Mind Blown. What the hell was that with the towel?!?! Incredible

  • @joshuabolyard7769
    @joshuabolyard7769 Před 5 měsíci

    I find so much inspiration from Danny ,were from the same area .Im a drummer and cant get enough of this

  • @malbuff
    @malbuff Před 3 lety +6

    I'm guessing the 11 downvoters were upset that it ended too soon.

  • @tunafang
    @tunafang Před 3 lety +9

    Danny "The Humbler" Gatton: Played guitar better with a towel over the neck while playing the damned thing back-handed, than most guitar "legends" could ever hope to achieve.

  • @pedroleal7118
    @pedroleal7118 Před rokem +2

    Great playing all around! Killer line-up!

  • @bencrosier8568
    @bencrosier8568 Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder if he ever did shows in Vegas, like a residency ? This is very like magic . Theatrical and virtuosic. A real show.

  • @trs80model14
    @trs80model14 Před rokem +1

    Bill Bartlett (Ram Jam, Lemon Pipers) in an interview regarding his "Black Betty" Les Paul referred to Danny as "King of them all: Danny Gatton whose talents were/are beyond description.

  • @discodan4514
    @discodan4514 Před měsícem

    Beautiful tone! Love it

  • @nicholasbrunetto966
    @nicholasbrunetto966 Před 3 lety

    one of the best !!!!

  • @richc3440
    @richc3440 Před 4 lety +2

    LEGENDS

  • @thisisdumbfor5
    @thisisdumbfor5 Před 4 lety +6

    See now, that's what I'm talkin' about!

  • @ronvonryan
    @ronvonryan Před 3 lety +1

    What a great sax player!!!!

  • @robertlivingstone3364
    @robertlivingstone3364 Před 3 lety +4

    Bill Holloman, great sax/trumpet/keys.

    • @dannyc1174
      @dannyc1174 Před 3 lety

      Oh Yeah, Baby - You know it, Son!

  • @scotty932096
    @scotty932096 Před 3 lety +1

    The band of the same haircuts haha, Danny is and always will be the legend himself.

  • @KelsterVonShredster
    @KelsterVonShredster Před 3 lety +13

    Absolutely mind blowing....this has to the best I've seen so far of Danny. His whole band is just off the charts...man.......the kids of today have no idea how much they suck LOL

    • @alext.1459
      @alext.1459 Před 3 lety +1

      Soo agreed!!!👍👍👍

    • @cortmiller
      @cortmiller Před 2 lety +1

      I always thought you were a hard core rock guy. Funny to randomly be watching this and seeing a comment from you. Your right Gatton was one of the absolute best. And the band was hot

    • @KelsterVonShredster
      @KelsterVonShredster Před 2 lety +3

      @@cortmiller I am a multi faceted diamond lol.... My musical interests range from Enya to Abba to Iron Maiden to Hank Williams to....

  • @rinodelucia3141
    @rinodelucia3141 Před 6 lety +1

    Fantastic player!

  • @julianobrune
    @julianobrune Před rokem +1

    Sensacional. Guitarrista muito virtuoso.

  • @darrenhughes8106
    @darrenhughes8106 Před 6 měsíci

    That sax player is layin it down and making that thing scream!! Holy cow

  • @nickwaslyn4201
    @nickwaslyn4201 Před 6 lety +1

    amazing

  • @12nicky34
    @12nicky34 Před 3 lety +1

    I can hear Roy Buchanan in there massively!

  • @RFXLR
    @RFXLR Před 2 lety +2

    John Candy playing the hell out of that sax!

  • @andymelendez9757
    @andymelendez9757 Před 3 lety +2

    Hot band!

  • @Verbalmint
    @Verbalmint Před 3 měsíci

    It’s amazing how good you had to be to impress people back in the day.

  • @milanbarritt9561
    @milanbarritt9561 Před rokem +1

    Im more of a Stratocaster guy but I just bought a Telecaster and was looking for some inspiration. It would seem I've found that here.

  • @jongauthier9289
    @jongauthier9289 Před rokem +1

    The beer spill on the Telecaster....

  • @craigthomas921
    @craigthomas921 Před rokem +1

    The saxophonist is Bill Holloman!

  • @spudwickthrockmorton2112

    Had a great sense of humor

  • @erickwalsh9258
    @erickwalsh9258 Před měsícem

    I can’t believe this was 6 years ago

  • @valterneyaraujooliveira4142
    @valterneyaraujooliveira4142 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Ele é um monstro na guitarra

  • @GUITARISTED
    @GUITARISTED Před 2 lety +1

    John Candy on bass. Band is awesome!!!

  • @mike-vz1cv
    @mike-vz1cv Před 6 lety +1

    Awesome

  • @conorohconnor
    @conorohconnor Před 8 měsíci +1

    look, Danny Gatton is what he is, anyone watching this already knows. Who the actual f&*k are these dudes playing with him.

  • @KnoxEmDown
    @KnoxEmDown Před 2 lety +2

    The man played guitar WITH A BEER BOTTLE

  • @altadena57
    @altadena57 Před 6 lety +17

    Next thing you know, Danny will be doing the dishes, or putting a new alternator in his car, at the same time hi's blowing the roof off playing his guitar !!

    • @arnyarny77
      @arnyarny77 Před 6 lety +5

      thats seems to be the way he was ordinary, yet extra ordinary

  • @deBebbler
    @deBebbler Před 6 lety +12

    I was impressed by his technique, but when he played with the towel over the strings at the end, I lost my mind. How the hell did he pull that off?!?

    • @georgedavis8412
      @georgedavis8412 Před 2 lety

      @SRV1 I’ve heard that he was left-handed, but can’t confirm it.

    • @georgedavis8412
      @georgedavis8412 Před 2 lety +1

      He’s also working the volume knob at the same time. Beyond masterful.

    • @sportsmediaamerica
      @sportsmediaamerica Před 3 měsíci

      Obviously had had practice cleaning things off with a towel. ;o)

  • @thecentralscrutinizerr
    @thecentralscrutinizerr Před 3 lety +2

    Danny Gatton - GuitFiddler Extraordinaire

  • @masediggity
    @masediggity Před 2 lety +1

    Fuck these guys are clean. I'm not even 30 yet, but I'll go ahead and say it for the old heads in the comment section. Computers have completely ruined all of us musician's. There's just not a need for any of us to be this good anymore. Make a mistake and protools has your back.

  • @tjancijr
    @tjancijr Před 2 lety +1

    Not human

  • @2skyland
    @2skyland Před 4 lety +1

    Whatever that is at 12:38 is great. Well it all is, but sometimes that just pops in my head out of nowhere.