Red light therapy | What's the science behind it and can you have too much of a good thing?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- In the latest of a series of Dermal Debates, aesthetics specialist Dr Qian Xu, and skincare founder Ivan Galanin are back to discuss the proven benefits of red light therapy and the potential downsides of overuse.
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00:00 Intro
03:00 Red light benefits and how it works
06:10 If it's in sunlight, why supplement?
07:23 What's the scientific evidence?
11:19 Red light and inflammation
16:00 Frequency of use
20:30 Concerns linked to mice study
26:19 Red light and weightloss
29:43 Closing thoughts on rewards v risk of overuse
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I understand debate is necessary and I welcome it, but on the other hand also find myself getting fatigued by continuously looking for the right skincare products and devices, reading up on them, finding out what's supported by science, then landing on a routine, only to find out it might actually do more harm than good and being back to square one. I thought out of all the things I've tried red light would be the most harmless, now it's yet another thing that might cause fat loss. For every ten industry professionals that rave about a certain product, there's another ten that warn you about their harmfulness and another ten people who say it ruined their face. At this point I just don't know what to use anymore. There's just not much left that doesn't come with a "might actually age you faster".
I think I'll just go live in a cave.
I do hear you on that. It would be good to have some definites in the mix. I think we can count sunscreen as a given!
@Santana Caipirinha I posted nearly the same comment on another channel yesterday - I UNDERSTAND. I miss the sun, so pardon me while I age quietly in the corner. Less aging doesn’t get a better seat in the afterlife.
I agree with you. I keep my skincare really basic and just try to eat a lot of healthy foods that will feed my body's cells and drink a lot of water and try to get enough sleep. I also do things that make me happy (to reduce stress). Whatever happens after that happens. 🤷
I agree Santana! So discouraging...
@@thehonestchannel Even sunscreen may have risks, depending on the ingredients. Better to only go into direct sunlight for short times and cover up with light clothing and a hat when in the sun!
I have used red light for wound healing primarily with me and my kiddos. As a nurse I can tell you red light has helped in the healing process especially with surgical wounds.
It also got rid of my granddaughters many deep warts without any procedure or pain, got rid of skin tags healed horrible burns with a single scar, etc, I’ve had one for 25 years ❤
I agree with you. It definitely works for wound healing, aches and pains. Been using a panel for 2 years
its amazing for healing after rosacea for me & eczema. I think it depends on the methodology, the depth of nm & the skins condition.
@@Camille_Anderson Hi. I am suffering from rosacea too and was wondering if LED therapy will help it. Can I ask you how frequently you use LED therapy and when did you see results? Thanks
Do you think it will heal psoriasis?
Would love a discussion on microneedling and what are the overlooked concerns about it
It's on the list : )
I have heard anecdotally that microneedling is great for both cellulite and crepey skin on the body.
I would be so interested if you did a whole “body skin” series. I’ve heard everything from Gotu kola, aloe vera (topical and oral), no sugar, etc, but nothing conclusive.
Would be fascinating series…
@@thehonestchannel Oh great! I would love that one too!!
@@thehonestchannel I would also like to learn about the microneedling home procedures using dermapens or derma rollers 🙂 Do they really work and are they worth the risk?
@@_Welde_this is a great idea - the various topics.
With over 5000 clinical studies that support the safety and effectiveness of photobiomodulation it is clear to me that it’s the best game in town. It has made me look and feel 20 years younger.
I feel like I know more than what they know😂 So do you😊
Thank you! With so many viewpoints, this is what I go by. Personal testimonials
If u see this question, will u please share how often u have used it on your face and neck and how long at a time to get the results u have.
Finally some healthy and honest discussion around skin health, devices and skincare. It's basically impossible to find this kind of content related to skin nowadays. Keep up
Thank you for the kind words. You may be interested in the videos we created to educate about facial fat fitness. czcams.com/channels/DGq_AGhHaiuXP0A29PfBAA.html
@@aeducator1 I'll check your channel for sure!
Ps: I'm a big fan of adipeau, I'm now discovering your page and I appreciate the honesty and integrity.
Thank you Sara. Glad you found the information useful!
@@aeducator1 I wanted to use the protocol you mentioned of 4 weeks. I have an LED mask. Yesterday I was in my fifth week of treatment (precisely 5 weeks and 11 days), starting from today I want to stop and give my skin some time. Do you suggest 3 months? Or should I probably wait a bit longer because I already did more than 4 weeks?
@@aeducator1 infrared is known for detox and fat loss since a long time. I don't understand why the expensive masks are near infrared. Even if it is not infrared my mind tells me that near infrared could cause more fat loss than the ordinary red light. Just because a device is expensive doesn't mean that it is not harmful. I would not use a near infrared mask. I have a normal red light mask without near infrared and I had that sensation that my skin looks very nice but each time it felt in a way stressed. For that reason I didn't use it often.
I think that perhaps generally all heat or cold based devices have that risk for fat loss. Thanks to God i did not notice it with my skin but I Do not use devices every day. Except Tretinoin with breaks and everyday cupping.
I would love a discussion about microcurrent. Not ems but microcurrent.
That’s the right way to do it. Very good discussion. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Claire for a great discussion, frequency for RLT is something that has definitely been overlooked
Great show. Great guests. Great forum. Much gratitude for providing this really important info.❤
Great discussion, and I love the thoughtfulness of the panel. I'd like to see this extended to cover NIR light, as well.
All your wonderful discussions are making all of us that much wiser your podcasts are amazing and I would love a show on micro needling as I have heard many great things about this treatment
I recently purchased a red light panel for skincare purposes. I work in healthcare and have had a lot of neck pain with performing frequent CPR, lifting, running to codes , and just being under pretty intense stress all shift long. I had had this pain from the base of my skull, down my shoulder, and down my back (but only on my left side.) Stretching, massage, NSAIDS, exercise, time… nothing was helping. I was like WHY NOT.. let me sit in front of my red light panel pointing toward the affected area. 15 min later, that pain was 100% gone. That was over 3 weeks ago now. The pain hasn’t returned. I also get a lot of headaches from facial muscle tension (when I can afford Botox, it helps a lot). But when I was using the read light for my face/ neck skin, I realized how much less pain I was in for the next few days. I mean, I feel like the dang red light is magic!!!
I’m happy to hear about the long covid treatment with red light also. I’m a respiratory therapist, and everything that comes from Covid is so strenuous, devastating, and still so unknown!! Thank you for doing this work!
This is great to hear - thanks so much for sharing your experience
Thank you for doing what you do!
Please let me know which panel you landed on in your search!
Are there any precautions needed for the eyes?
thank you for doing a job that must be incredibly difficult & fraught with real stress! hope you keep well and red light helps!! i use it for skin but also fibromyalgia pain.
@@austinpowers1999 hi there I’m a professional and yes, I would wear blocking glasses if you have macular degeneration or any retinal issues.
Thank you Clare. Yes, I agree with changing to discussion rather than debate. I would like to hear Ivan and Dr. Qian talk about using hyaluronic acid along with Adipeau. I have stopped using any hyaluronic acid products since I started Adipeau because I heard him mention products that bloat fat cells. I don’t know if anything has been established about that. I look forward to the discussion to the next discussion. Thanks again!
Clare you look so beautiful in this video! I ordered the adipeau cream and am waiting impatiently for it to arrive.
Just found this channel - Absolutely refreshing maturity - And yes - 'discussion'. Brilliant!
Really glad you enjoyed the discussion!
Clare, your skin looks beautiful in today's video. Love the conversation, as with most things, sounds like balance is key.
Very interesting, I’ve been using the small 300h desktop model and I’ve found it has made an amazing difference to my skin. I follow the guidelines and use it usually for 10mins five times a week. My skin looks so much better, less grey and more plumb. I’ve not lost any fat on my fave.
Great content and very interesting and enlightening. Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to your next discussions 🥰
Excellent, excellent presentation for those of us home red light users. We really needed this information and I for one had not herad it elsewhere. Thank you.
You are very welcome!
Excellent information, an eye opener. I will definitely take some time off it every so often. Thank you
Another great Discussion Clare. Thank you. Can't wait for the next one. Learning a lot before starting to buy a new "thing" for the skin. I have rosacea on my cheeks and heard for my doctor that red light is not a good thing. The fat loss is something I did not hear from any other person.
Thanks Marleen!
I totally love every single video you make ! What a breath of fresh air your videos are ! I saved up for ages and bought the Dermalux Flex . I use it 5 days per week 20 mins for days . Results are quite incredible over time . I do apply my Niod survival 0 first and wait 20 mins first to get that anti oxidant support whilst having the treatment . I hope your having a wonderful weekend . Xxx Daniel
Thanks Daniel. So glad you enjoy the videos and thanks for sharing your experience with the Dermalux Flex.
Absolutely leading the way in transparent discussion on an industry that often packages hope over science. Thank you so much Ms. Johnston for continuing to ask for data and citations; seeing this in action helps us in so many ways outside of beauty, and is personally helping me how to ask for references like a journalist. You are SO COOL. thank you.
Thank you! It's so good to hear you find my content helpful.
Agreed. Asking for references is COOL. Thank you for tuning in.
Great discussion. Thank you!
I started out using my red light mask 6 days a week, but now I use it 2: times a week. I have seen great improvement on my dark spots and I don’t have any deep lines in my face which I am very grateful for. I am going on a holiday and will be gone about 19 days and I definitely will not be taking my red light with me so it will be interesting to see if this did make any difference in my skin. I LOVE these discussions as there really isn’t much information that comes with red light products and there should be. Thanks 😊
I really appreciated this discussion. I'm 69 now and have used a mito panel red light for my skin, for arthritis and sciatica. I've had the best results with it for arthritis pain. I use it for 10 minutes on my hips or lower spine- depending. Every day for maybe a week and each day the pain is less, then gone. I use it on my face maybe 1× week with green tea and have seen a tightening and softening of wrinkles. No miracles- but pretty great for arthritis..
I looking into the mito panel. Which version do you have?
Claire, love your hair :)
Discussion is definitely a better word. Thank you so much for all what you do 🙏
Thank you! I actually tried the butterfly cut on myself (it’s all over TikTok) and it worked 😁
This is my first time watching Dermal Debates. If it's how it typical goes, you three are a model for how people with different experience & viewpoints should treat each other -- with openness and respect and curiosity.
Thank you so much Nancy.
I really enjoy these discussions, love what Ivan brings and appreciate the depth of information he brings to us. I too use a red light mask and glad to hear it’s appropriate to take breaks. Maybe the inflammatory response is what is causing the fat loss, so interesting that there is very little depth of consistent research. I too am an Adipeau user and really loving it.
It seems that maybe the model we should think of is exercise. Exercise itself does not build muscle, strength or endurance ... it challenges the body such that the body adapts and makes itself bigger, stronger or more capable of sustained effort. So, stimulate the body or skin with red and near-infrared light and then let it adapt and improve. This suggests that "every day forever" may not be ideal.
By the way, the Omnilux instructions say to use the mask 3 to 4 times a week for 4 to 6 weeks, then "as needed". Kind of vague, but they do hint that constant use may not be the right approach.
Great content. Happy you are here.
Another great discussion! I live Dr Chong’s common sense abs approach to things
Fabulous discussion... thank you. Love listening to Ivan.
Glad you enjoyed it Gill.
Red/IR is great for osteoarthritis. I use it in my practice for skin rejuvenation but my mom had bone on bone, torn meniscus and osteoarthritis in both knees. We would do the light on her knees once a week and she would be able to be up and about with minimal pain until she had replacements. We also did it after her replacements to speed recovery and it worked wonders for her. Also worked great for her skin in conjunction with other treatments i was doing.
Any concerns with red light damaging the eyes? Are glasses required
@@austinpowers1999 it’s safe around the eyes as long as you aren’t staring at the light directly. I use goggles on my clients when they’re under the panel. It won’t hurt you though. There’s even evidence of it helping with vision issues.
It's helped me with skin conditions, soft tissue repair and elevating joint pain.
As for eye protection, I think it depends on the type of light and intensity. I always use it. Protection is a good idea unless a competent medical professional suggests otherwise with a specific type of light treatment being used.
Some believe it's good for the eyes though that could mean a variety of things. Other structures around the eye could be beneficial in relation to eyes. Directly into the eye would be something to *avoid.
Where your eye protection and reserve light exposure for them with natural, low intensity light!
Your intro was so good I subscribed immediately. Very excited to have found this channel. Thank you. I've been wondering quite a bit about RLT lately So this video was right up my alley. ♡
Thanks and welcome!
Excellent and informative video, thank you for your highly professional and ethical content 👏👏
U got to compare the irradiance. Some devices ( like panels) are stronger than others like masks. And then there is clinic strength. So saying a person with a mask at 60 irradiance needs to rest for 3 months, like a person using a stronger in clinic device is not fair. The output is vastly different.
Great interview/discussion! Wonderful educational content!
I'm so pleased you found it helpful. Thank you!
Thanks, for this informative debate. I purchased a Red light mask today, and decided to research the procedure. Now, I know that more information is needed for me to feel safe, especially having a small face that can't take losing any weight.
You may find this follow-up interview helpful The link between free radicals and red light and how to get the pros and not the cons!
czcams.com/video/ekSdDL5pFps/video.html
I really appreciate the honesty about potential facial fat loss.
Thanks so much for this discussion! (I was actually thinking the same thing that you should call it “discussion” rather than “debate” 😉). I’ve had a red light panel for a couple years. I use it for my face but also for various injuries. I’m a dancer so have various injured body parts. And I must say it absolutely works! Completely has taken away back pain! Also I’m glad to hear that you actually probably should not use it every day. I go through periods of not using it and have wondered about this. If you’re really curious about digging into the science look up Andrew Huberman here on CZcams. He’s a professor of neuroscience at Stanford and does very deep dives into the science of various health topics. He has a video about light therapy that I recently watched. It’s not just about red light and not just about skin, but fascinating information.
I think moderation in everything is good
Love Andrew Huberman!
Thanks fo sharing😊
Not Cyanide tho 🤷🏻♀️
I was using my Omnilux 5-6 days a week for several months when I first got it and did see some improvement. Interestingly, we went on holiday and I didn’t use it for a week and noticed when I resumed I had a greater improvement. Maybe it was the break.
Finally. Just good information without a sales pitch.
Oh boy. This was enlightening. I definitely need to take a break! Thank you!
Glad you found it helpful!
Me too! I was using my mask almost every day!
Thank you for a really nice critique of Red Light Therapy. I personally am looking into it for my thyroid. I have Hashimoto’s. I was hoping you’d cover that as well. Perhaps you will find another show to cover it? There are som pretty ‘out there’ claims too regarding brain health. I think we all need to be careful with something still fairly new.
This was an excellent discussion and made me subscribe.
Thank you - and welcome!
So informative, Thank you,
Just throwing my hat in the ring here, I’ve been using a Rio Facelite (same as Omnilux / Current Body type) for the past 8 months, about 5 or 6 times a week as I meditate in the morning for 30 minutes each session. My skin looks amazing and there are no signs of fat loss (blemish free, very limited fine lines, over all great skin). That being said, this (great) discussion has given me pause and I’m going to cut back to 20 minutes twice weekly from now on just in case there are some surprises coming my way in the future, I definitely don’t want fat loss of any sort on my face. Thanks for the info 👍
Thanks for sharing your experience. I wish the makers would do some longer term studies so they could specify long term safety protocols for red light. So much points to it being safe but without knowing for sure it leaves niggling doubts which is a shame. It’s been shown to support fat loss because it improves cell efficiency so I don’t see it as a major cause of problematic facial fat loss. Would also be good to have more studies around that though!
@@thehonestchannel Thanks for your reply Clare, loss of facial fat would probably be everyone's most feared side effect of any skin care treatment/product and so having a clinical study (if even a minor one) on that would be an interesting read. I happen to know the people behind the Omnilux brand and will be dropping this very question into the conversation next time we're chatting together, if there's something of substance to report on the subject then I'll make sure to revert back to you 👍
Any update on your discussion with omnilux regarding face fat loss
what did omnilux say? xo@@Phoneman635
This was a great discussion. Thank you. New subscriber.
I've been using a neck and a face mask, Omnilux, every day for 2 years. It works. No bad consequences yet. I recently started using it for my neck arthritis. Too soon to tell though. I would love a bed, for my entire body but $25K is currently out of my budget.
Considering how many blatant mistakes your guests made in the previous “tretinoin debate” & how many things they got wrong (esp Ivan with his glaring conflict of interest), i’m not sure how much I could trust what they have to say this time around. You need to find better subject matter expert if you really want an “honest debate”.
😂
@@none7254female expert?
This is totally true. I think she’s having quacks on for clickbait.
Clare I just found your channel yesterday with the tretinoin video and now I'm a fan ! I love that you do a scientific research about skincare which has been a boom lately 💥 But quite overwhelming with so many products, ingredients 🙃 I've been watching some dermatologists videos where they recommend products which some have been really good to me but the more you see results the more you want so it's refreshing to know that is good to take a break , especially from those advanced treatments like this one discussed ... Could you also do some videos about best skincare routines for each decades? 20's, 30's , 40' ... Thank you and can't wait to see more videos with new studies and scientific evidences about skincare 🧐
I purchased a full body red light panel 11 months ago. I use it 2x daily for 20 minutes. I am a 56 year old woman and I lift heavy at the gym and do cardio 5x a week. My skin looks incredible and I’ve turned back the clock several years. I recover from my strenuous works outs almost immediately. I had all kinds of pain in my hips, feet, and back that has been eliminated. I have a ton of energy!! I have seen some fat loss but not enough to say it’s from the red light. It’s mostly from being in a caloric deficit. I do use Adipeau cream on my face while doing the treatments and people have noticed that I look younger, more youthful. The lines on my face are disappearing. The time under the red light is very relaxing and reduces stress overall. Am I getting too much red light? I highly doubt it. My overall health is excellent and I have no reason to reduce the treatments. Light and sound will be the new modalities to treat disease. In my opinion everyone should have a red light device.
Thanks for the info. Sounds amazing! What brand / model do you recommend? Thank you. 🙏
I'd be interested to know what brand you are using. Is it MitoRed?
@@_Welde_ I purchased the Platinum LED lights and the stand so I can lay in bed during treatments. Game changer.
@@4tun8nanette No, I purchased Platinum LED lights - best on the market at the time. They now include blue lights in their panels so be mindful of that before purchasing.
@@Lifes_Frosting I workout and lift too. Anything that helps bring down that inflammation is so beneficial. Appreciate the reply. 🙏
well, this is very timing. I started using my red light practically everyday for a week, for about 8 minutes each session on my face due to seb derm on my eyebrows. I read a review where this was done and it worked well. The journal didn't say how many times a week so, I figured start low, but after seeing this, I may want to consider to back away and do it less a week. Honestly, I was hoping it would not only help with aging but at least place a bandit on my eyebrow condition until my stomach fully heals.
I love your „ Discussions“!!!! Kind regards from Germany❤️
So glad! Good wishes from Scotland!!
She has some of the best skincare videos on CZcams. So informative!
Such a great discussion, thank you!! Wow, I have been using my Omnilux red light face and neck masks 5 days a week for over a year. Yikes!! I am definitely taking a break. I recently started tretinoin and will stick to the basics, embracing the less is more philosophy, thanks to Claire!
I'd love to know what results you noticed results after using your omnilux?
@@nataliaharrison7454 I mostly noticed a reduction in hyperpigmentation when I first started using it. My skin does look pretty good at 57, and it is hard to know what else it is doing v. my skincare. I also had started using a retinol about 1.5 years ago and recently switched to tretinoin.
Thanks so much for responding, it's really interesting to know. I'm on my first week of the omnilux facemask.
So you cut off the omnilux completely? Why? Just because there are some threats that are not backed by science? I feel so frustrated because based on this channel and this anecdotal evidence all modalities might cause fat loss microcurrent, red light, tretinoin and I'm guessing that microneedlimg is on the way! 😖
I’m not buying a red light mask! Thank you for shining light on both potential risks and benefits.
I just happened to find this channel, very much enjoyed the info from both doctors. I purchased a red light mask recently and have used it for about a month mostly daily, but I too have wondered about whether using it daily is safe or not. I'm hoping it does help to promote collagen and maybe clear up my complexion, but I also want to be wise about it. I think that with many beauty influencers here on youtube promoting these red-light products; people may feel over confident in using them and deem them safe without getting more info.
Good to know you found it helpful. There’s never any harm in taking breaks from devices to allow your skin a chance to rest.
Thanks for the information on Red light therapy.
really interesting thanks. Do you have any video about PRP? it is an interesting topic as well.
Ive been using redlight since 2005. Treatment was based on NASA studies back then. Which was 24hrs in between treatments. I stick to this schedule most of the time.
Lumiere is a brand that had aesthetic face panels. I started off with that then moved to hand helds and panels.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great discussion!! I fully believe in a multifaceted approach to all wellness issues.. love my Mito Pro .. it’s effect on sleep quality is quite Amazing ♥️🕊🛌🕊
Do you use it right before sleep?
@@kiramiftari9486 i have used it just because of time .. but prefer earlier in the day if possible.. it took a number of weeks but Wow what a difference in sleep 😴
Thank you so much - this discussion is so helpful as I begin to use red light therapy and try to dose myself safely and effectively to meet long term goals of health and beauty rather than short term agendas.
Warmest regards
Jennie
Wonderful, wonderful content and discussion! I’m learning so much. Keep them coming!
Thank you! Will do!
I use a red light panel with wonderful results on a troublesome knee and on my face. The face is a bit troublesome for me because I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer while using this 3rd generation panel and was loving it. I don't know if there was any connection with red light therapy as i was using it almost everyday for 20 minutes. The machine was powerful as it actually filled in skin that had been damaged from an accident. I am left confused about redlight for my face but I am 100% positive for use on the body. This was a wonderful podcast. Thank you ! Katherine
Thanks Katherine. I wish there were more studies available to better inform our decisions around safe use. It’s frustrating.
Thank you soooo much!
I've been using masks and panels for 2-3 years for 4 times a week. It definitely works but it lead me to having extreme migraines (intracranial pressure) the next day and high light sensitivity. I thought it was adapalene, went to the eye doctor, started wearing sunglasses inside etc...until I figured it was red light 🥲
That was so interesting. I also wonder if the efficacy reduces if the inflammation over time becomes normalised
What about red light for hair growth? There are many red light devices for hair restoration on the market.
That's a really interesting point. Will take a look to see what data is in the peer reviewed literature.
I’d also LOVE to hear more about microneedling. Appropriately depths to use, therapies and skin care to use alongside it, frequency, etc. I do microneedle currently, but would love to see a protocol for it based by science. Thank you so much!!!
Frequency is super dangerous.. can destroy fat cells. I’d stay farrrr away from radio frequency and any heat devices.
Do you use it for just your face or other areas as well? I’ve had a micro needle for quite some time, but have not used it consistently enough. I always soak it in rubbing alcohol before and after each session. I’ve used it for my face and for my thinning hair (hair line, top/front of my scalp behind the bangs area, and the crown of my head). To my understanding, deeper needles are good for larger body areas such as the thighs, stomach, shoulders etc.
Ivan is looking younger these days! I love my Adipeau cream, game changer!
Hi Clare, thanks for this brilliant discussion, there is information here that you won't find elsewhere. I have owned a red light panel, a hand held light and a Current Body face mask. I can definitely attest to what Ivan said that too much red light is a bad thing. I've cut my usage now and I find my skin is responding better. I only use my CB mask once a week for 20 mins (I might cut this to 10) It does cause an inflammatory response (which I saw when I used my hand held red light on a large burn that was almost healed - within seconds it started to bleed and pain again) However, I find it brilliant for those niggling joint aches that you get when you overdo something. So although I've got rid of my full light panel, I keep the smaller light and mask. Both have their uses but I feel that even using the mask every other day (for skin rejuvenation) can have the reverse effect for some of us. Almost every google search on red light therapy only tells of the positive effects! Also, I would say to anyone to wear the goggles as it does not benefit the eyes as some claim. Look forward to the next video 🙂
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@thehonestchannel I forgot to say that using my red light mask for 20 mins/week has given my skin a lovely glow - I wouldn't keep using if I wasn't getting results! I do like it, but I feel 'less is more'.
@@TheMijas07 That sounds like a very sensible approach!
I personally have found that red light therapy has improved my vision in my right eye. Just don’t overdo it.
Thank you Claire loving the discussions and as a freelance writer and journalist I’m always about asking questions… loving them. I do swear by red light for inflammation and have had amazing results. Fibromyalgia and repetitive strain injury all gone. And with it some small spidery broken capillaries on my legs. Just noticed it… like wow. But all the face and skin things I really think skin and beauty influencers are creating hype and fads. I followed their advice of acids, used a stronger retinol every night and then used my red light smaller panel and aged in a week on my face. It’s obsessive, too much for the skin and way too much hype … and clickbait. I’ve had a rest from working thanks Covid, but have done tons of research, some on beauty since I really had little clue as I was very low maintenance and was obsessed with my work. I’ve learnt alot but agree I think it’s a good idea to step back on facial skin treatments for perfection. I would like to try adipeau but it’s so expensive for shipping and my currency which is so much lower than USD. Such a shame. Your skin looks amazing from it.
Thanks Nicole. Totally agree that you can push your skin too hard and I just can’t get behind the multiple-step routines. Sorry to hear Covid hit you hard - hope you’re feeling better now.
The Adipeau is expensive, especially with international delivery. Hopefully they’ll widen the distribution so it can be sold locally. I’ll also keep an eye out for any similar formulas appearing on the market.
@@thehonestchannel thanks so much. That would be great. Just to clarify I didn’t get Covid and have been healthy throughout but lost my job, and my parents, again not from contracting Covid. Thanks for your reply, I’ll keep watching out for any news.
@@nicolelouis8968 Oh I’m so sorry. Sounds like a really tough time x
@@thehonestchannel ♥ Thank you.
Like always a fantastic conversation!
I would love to see a review from you about the Lyma Laser. It must be one of the most expensive at-home beauty devices right now on the market . They make huge promises and I’m very skeptical that it’s worth the money.
Thanks Claire. I wrote to the makers of the Lyma a while back to see if they would lend me one for the purposes of review which I would then return. I never heard back so I'd need to buy one myself in order to test it. EEK. That's a lot of money. As the channel and therefore my production budget grows I promise to buy some of these higher cost devices and put them to the test.
This show is very informative. I haven't bought a face mask. I do have a near red bulb on holder which I use on a clean face for 10 minutes a day. I use eye protector with it. It also works well for sweeping around my knee. I guess the jury is still out on long term benefits.
Love this type of discussion you're doing Claire. Having three people definetley makes it more interesting. Only wish is that it went on longer. I'm gaining much more respect for Ivan too the more you intrview him : ) Thanks again Claire.
Hi Kerry, thank you for the kind words. I have been training aestheticians about facial fat fitness and realized that education is really the key. We need to develop a scientific literacy for skin that's similar to what the field of nutrition has. This is a huge priority for me for this year. We are going to use a messaging platform to do interactive education. I will do a video about it once it is ready.
OK they don’t say anything like that when you buy it,,,, almost every day,,. Omg?! Glad to see this video
Thank you for the topic! How long should be each session using red light panel at home and how many times a week? Thanks
I had infrared therapy for weight loss and it was amazing! I felt so good while doing it and noticed other benefits with healing but I would be worried about losing fat in my face. Just like I won’t put red light on my chest or buttocks since I don’t want to lose fat there
Exactly! But most people are using it on their faces!
And Ivan is a Marketing guy. He’s not a scientist.
i causes facial fat loss!!!
you need to follow a strict procedure for red light to give fat loss it will not on it's own cause fat loss, I have used my small light panel on my body to heal after 18months of illness similar to long covid after a flu jab, I wish it would reduce fat but it has not, I have found it to be healing in many ways, but you need to follow guidelines for distance and time, too much reduces the benefits gained, the closer you use the panel the time should be reduced, red light is also dehydrating so lots of water before and after and moisturiser, using it at night also aids sleep. Dr Qian Xu thank you for sharing your vast knowledge and experience with us it's very much appreciated
Clara you look radiant!! In this video. Are you still using the adipeau cream? Also can you do another video about the outcome on this cream. I believed you have been on approximately 6
months? I’m still using this product, on my 3 months phase.
Thank you! I do still use the Adipeau cream. I've gone down from using it twice a day to just on my cheeks and under my eyes in the evening. I'll update next month when I hit the six-month mark. I'll be doing a video on my skincare routine at 50 with the lessons learned along the way and I'll incorporate it into that one.
Hi Claire,Can you also make a discussion on AHA\BHA ?Thank you
I have just started using red light and oh my goodness it’s helping me tremendously.
I can’t say enough good and I sat on the fence for wayyy to long. Although everything happens for a reason. Lol
I've been doing red light therapy at home for over 15 years give or take and I'm a big fan, but this discussion was fascinating and gave me a lot to think about. I love that the doctors aren't arguing about the "right" way to do anything but honestly providing information on their areas of expertise. You've earned a sub from me! ❤️
Welcome!
Will it damage the eyes? Are glasses required?
@@austinpowers1999 it depends on what you're using, I think! If it's one of the face masks, I don't think you have to.
Have you seen any fat loss from it?
@@river2861 I haven't, but I didn't have a lot of fat to begin with and have filler now so it's hard to say!
But the study Ivan cited pertaining to volume loss said Laser light therapy in the heading. Not Red light therapy. Aren't these two quite different?
Could we perchance please have further details on interaction with red light in the context of melanin please? Very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Up to 3 times a week for a panel or a mask is fine in my opinion for maintenance. I use one the Celluma Panels personally.
I'd say look at it like charging your phone if it's at 💯 percent your not going to get anymore charge keeping it charging.
Same applies to LED, you can't over do it per say however using it more frequent isn't going to give you more significant results because as it's said in this video, the cells can only absorb so much led light energy.
I think the sweet spot is 2,3 times a week in my opinion.
I just got a red light. How long should I use it? I would love to use it on my face and neck because of stress. I have tightening of my neck quite often. Also how far from my skin should I use it. I just subscribed to your videos. Thanks so much for the information.
Exfoliating in all forms are inflammatory but still beneficial. As always, too much of a good thing isn’t actually a good thing
I’ve been using my red light quasar device for over 10yrs. It’s fantastic. No fat loss. And I use it before applying RetinA which helps with the absorption.
I hopeeee it’s true
I thought we didn't WANT further absorption of RetinA. Doesn't increased absorption cause skin thinning in the deeper layers of skin?
Very interesting discussion, I'm actually relieved to learn about the possibility of too much red light therapy can be ineffective and/or possibly cause negative effects..i'll be honest, I'm not great with using my skin devices consistently for long periods of time, yet..am frustrated with spending the money and not using them enough to be beneficial..so, this debate has addressed those concerns for me. Wonderful content Claire👏👏👏😊thank you.❤
You’re most welcome! Glad it helped ❤️
My problem tends to be that I tend to OVERDO the devices because I enjoy the sensations.
Nice discussion.
Thanks Marc.
interested in this and thank you for sharing...l have interest not just face, but body cause I have had late-stage cancer. Doing natural treatment, once of the things recommended was red light therapy as well and at the end of this journey, (once 6 large colon & muscle pelvis n4t4 cancer, now just one 3.2 left, finally got one. i have LOTS of fatigue and inflammation due to spinal and limb inflammation and arthritis besides the cancer, That is a real issue so glad you are talking on these too. will have to look these people and other things up on this. too much of a good thing can be good or BAD. many times bad. My theory is always if you don't abuse it, you can use it. And yes, most average docs know NOTHING about natural medicines sadly. People have to look up doctors and people in industry like this to learn today. thanks.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. Wishing you the very best.
Hi Clare, I am worried on my under eye hollow. I don't want to inject filler treatment for tear trough because of safety. Do you have any recommendation on any devices or even products can fit on my case? Looking forward for you reply~
fantastic thanks so much, yes we use 670 nm for our glasses
Basically waiting for more long-term research results.
Can we get a video perspective on hydrolyzed collagen peptides supplements , great discussion by the way I have 4 different devices I started with red light because of a work related back injury then started using it for skin health red light is definitely something I would like to see used more with other treatments like massage therapy, chiropractic care physical therapy and acupuncture I feel it’s very beneficial In conjunction
Hi Clare, me again. I’m about to watch. But A suggestion for the next topic with Ivan: talk about microneedling. Not with rf at a clinic but at home rollers. Ivan said it was helpful somewhere. I’d like to know more.
Hello! Microneedling is on my list of things to cover in the coming months : )
Me too I bought a Dr pen and couldn't use it I was too scared there is a clinic near me that does prp so microneedling with plasma I am not yet brave enough
@@thehonestchannel sweet! Can you include using a good vitamin c serum ( geek and gorgeous fe) with it. That used to be IT: microneedling and then do vit c serum immediately after.
I remember him mentioning microneedling in the context of improving circulation.
*Great debate! Thank you 😘*
Fascinating discussion Clare. Love these videos; thank you for all your hard work.
I've been using the current body face mask for over a year and thought it was having some beneficial effects. However I suddenly got a group of broken veins on my chin and some smaller ones on my cheeks. I haven't used it since in case I get more. I do have mild rosacea, ie, heat, alcohol, spicy food, hot food and drinks make my face flush. Could it be possible that the red light mask caused the emergence of thread veins?
It's unlikely that the red light directly cause the broken veins, especially if you weren't over using it. So it would be ok to continue using the red light mask for skin rejuvenation.
@@qianxu8970 thank you so much for replying Dr Xu. It's reassuring to know that. I'll go back to using my mask then.
My red light has just healed small broken veins in my legs after 3 days. Amazing I was wondering how to get rid of them, they are almost gone!
As someone with a chronic inflammatory skin condition (Psoriasis), I have to say that intro of red light inflammation has helped it immensely. I would have done pics but as someone who has treated my Psoriatic and Psoriasis naturally, people don't believe my anecdotal information. I was free of both conditions for 10years this way but a "treatment (V)" for covid flared both conditions drastically. Diet and lifestyle is helping but once I brought red light in, my Psoriasis has calmed down 70-80%. I am happy with that. Really not happy the conditions flared again though.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Janet. Hope things settle down fully again for you soon.
Would like some studies on possible red light therapy to reduce scarring.
Eek. This guy cherry picks science, and that’s more harmful than the “harm” he says he’s trying to bring to light. Never ceases to amaze me how confident charlatans can be.