Homeworld 3 Review - Was It Worth Waiting For 21 Years?
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
- As the long-awaited mainline sequel in the sci-fi RTS series, Homeworld 3 is finally upon us. While offering exceptional production values, including sharp visuals, there's enough strategic depth to satisfy long-standing fans of the series.
Thankfully, Homeworld 3 brings some new elements to the franchise, from cover mechanics and derelict structures that require their use to new tactics. While some mechanics, like the new ship abilities, can tend to overcomplicate encounters. Some additional polish is also welcome when it comes to unit pathfinding and specific bugs.
Nevertheless, if you're looking for a solid sci-fi RTS with a strong campaign and some interesting new modes like the rogue-like War Games, Homeworld 3 is worth a look. - Hry
Storyline is poor imho
"If Chins Could Kill"
CZcamsr TheArchCast shows how Homeworld 3's story changed from initial glimpses that showed it to be more in line with Homeworld's legacy, to a female-focused interpersonal drama with all the well known woke-feminist tropes; from wide chins to not really evil, just misunderstood female antagonist, under direction from a pink-haired, nose-ringed, PHD-in-writing Gearbox narrative director with all the usual sociopolitical markers
Now we just need Descent: Freespace 3
If only..
omg yes!!!
I'm alone waiting for a BoTF 2 I recon... but Yeah Freespace 3 would be mythical .. or it better be!
Thank god we stil have new updates for the many mods/custom campaigns.
I wish!
Yet Voltion folded due to the disaster that is Saints Row.
21 Years ago I played Homeworld to death then the sequel. Where did 21 years go? That was the Golden Age of gaming (Half-Life). If they did Descent: Freespace like this I'd be extremely happy.
Same, time flies @warp speeeeeeed. :)
Yeah, I enjoyed the demo I found in a PC magazine. Unfortunately back then all I can get is the pirated version, and even that was on a CD.
Did you play Cataclysm? That was my favourite game in the series.
@@robbie_ I did actually mate. I rememeber loving it too - I might have to have another crack at it given it's been such a long time. I still have all my Big Box PC Games! Cheers.
Were the games that much better or was it just that our dopamine receptors were young and fresh?
I would not recommend that, The plot is bland, the acting in the cut scenes is bad. The controls arent really convenient. The maps are always in some sort of wreckage which doesnt really make sense. The map interactibles like debris for cover more a nuinsance than a gameplay feature, you can accidently click on them and your ships will hug some wall and not take part in fighting. The rogue-like mode is meh, I am a big fan of rogue-likes, but this thing is not even full thought mode. Doesnt really make you to explore all it has to offer.
I am very dissapointed. Huge fan of HW series. Played Complex Mod a lot. Complex Mod is far more better than this.
For graphics I dont know. I had all settings on Epic except for raytracing. And even on epic the VFX where blurry and dotty. Did not have the picture what was shown in the video
Complex mod was amazing, had over 5k hours over the years. Beghins is planning to release his own game, ERA ONE this year.
I hope they will make complex mod for this
Let me give you a hint - it wasn't. Going back to play 1, 2, Cata and Complex mod.
did ya know , complex is making their own game now? its based on the idea behind homeworlds fleet controls, but an entire new universe. Its called Era One.
@@theotherdave8013 I know, backed it since day 1.
Homeworld 3 is ok. Homeworld 2 was better if compared to each other imo, but Homeworld Cataclysm still remains my favorite.
Yes!
HW 3 was absolute hot garbage? How was it "ok"
"This is the Kiith Somtaaw warship Kuun-lan."
HW 1 is fantastic , and i actually cared about each ship i had in my fleeet 😊
Same!!! As A kid, I remember making new save files constantly and even restarting missions when I lost a ship I knew I could have saved!!! Good times...
Needs more campaign missions.
It’s alright
Nothing to wait over 20 years for
Not to mention is protected by the abomination of Denuvo. Like people would not buy it anyway if it was good enough!
So you build ships, encircle enemy ships, right click. Am I missing something or should I just play starsector?
Why it got mixed reviews on Steam then?
because gamers don't matter to critics, who get schwag from the game companies
Only 13 missions?
5/6 mp maps. They just fired out a half baked clone IMO, nothing new and innovative by the looks, same old bland MP no doubt.
5/6 MP maps.
Nothing new or innovative by the looks, a half baked "its homeworld".?!
Theres a few new things, but its still meh interms of story
This game is gorgeous. Despite being an simpler experience to HW2, it does honour the franchise and its roots.
HOWEVER. The game is rather thin at times. There are no WTF moments. No "Karak is Burning" or "Cut us loose!" I was waiting for that holy sh%T moment, but it never came.
Also, I will admit I'm a little let down that HW3 is the shortest of all of them, including DOK and Cataclysm. At only 13 main campaign missions, at medium difficulty, I had the game wrapped in under 9 hours, and that includes the last mission, which I had to restart as it was the only one that really offered a challenge.
I mean it's a good game. I guess I was wanting more. It has a singular plot point where the previous ones had you going off in different directions with different subplots. The cinematics were amazing, but they were also long...very long, and I wonder if they spent more time on missions, we could have had a longer, more satisfying experience. The previous games got by with animated paintings--did we really need near-photorealistic characters talking to each other for five minutes between missions?
The visuals are pretty awesome...there arent very many games that look like this
/s
pretty colors is all that it really has, glad I didn't pre-order
@@CheapSushiYup seems like that was the main focus and the silly coop thing.
the background structures are so big to the point I'm just thinking I'm controlling drones instead of spaceships and its annoying.
@@paquitolao4049 that is an interesting point. I dont get that feeling, but I see how some people could.
The way combat plays out in terms of distance, movement, how fighters maneuver, how projectiles are shown and displayed in contrast to how the ships are reacting and dealing with it, etc is in my opinion is mostly boring and isn't as epic compared to HW1. It feels arcade like. Even the remake didn't do it justice because it was remade in the HW2 engine (which turned weapons into hitscan instead of actual projectiles, at least HW3 does this). Something just feels so mobile-like about the gameplay, instead of epic fights in space. They made sure the background objects give you a sense of scale, and then use that scale to appreciate the ships themselves but then how the fights of the ships play out is in knife range and even larger ships seem like just another fighter craft to not care about. It's like you get the impression you're in the Atlantic/Pacific Ocean for a battle (analogy) but the actual combat happens in a backyard pool. It's very compressed. It totally takes away from the scale scope of the map and how you would think a fight would happen. It almost makes the aspect of fighting in space pointless. Plus HW1 made you care about each craft to some degree but here it's just feels cheap and throwaways. Get a few pretty flashes of color for the dopamine hit. There's no real impact to the fights like HW1 felt or even Cataclysm. Glad I didn't pre-order. Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way.
In HW1 the capital ships felt epic to command and had a real impact to the battles. Here they're made of paper and die immediately as if they're corvettes. Being disappointed doesn't even cover it.
Nothing is ever ok to you guys lmao y’all don’t like anything
I think it is just impossible to make homeworld 1 again it is just something that came about because of some sort of magic. Homeworld 1 is so good almost nothign compares
@@BROOKLYNBORN1994 Yeah, I like other games. Space game wise, I'm enjoying Nebulous: Fleet Command for example. It's just a shame that new games about older IPs are so dumbed down and void of the gameplay and soul that made them special. Maybe the TikTok generation will like HW3 for a minute until the pretty veneer fades and gets stale. That's all.
@@BROOKLYNBORN1994 Because when a game that was made more than 20 years ago, is better, and cheaper, and with all modern tecknology can not make, no where near as good, is a sign of the decadense of modern vidoegame company, also, dont forget that homewrold, not only the combat feel epic, but also has a wayto tell the story, and even that they fail, with cutscenes, not to metnion homeworld the idea is conserve the fleet, when i see other videos talking how you need to touch powers constantly, the capital ships dont retreat and fire at the same time, and many more, is one said how, these was made years ago and perfected, how they can miss so bad, but for me, is not wanting to taste the sloop, they make a bad product well make it know
It’s a small nit pick but I dislike that the game forces me to go to the next mission once the objectives are completed. I want the option to hyperspace when I feel ready, I like to collect the rest of the resources and rebuild the ships I lost. Plus putting the new ships into a strike fleet.
I don’t want to jump into a new mission and have to do all that while defending from enemies.
Also this game holds your hand a little too hard. Intel is always telling me where to go or what to do or how to do it, let me figure that shit out and stop disturbing my game. I can understand once every mission but some missions have 4 or 5 times where Intel takes me away when I’m trying to gather resources or send out strike fleets and it’s just a tad bit annoying.
No.
SBI was involved apparently
I think the problem whit makeing a sequal to homeworld is that the first 2 games where just way way way to good. It's to hard to improve on perfection. Even homeworld 2 while good just did not measure up
I agree. But for me it is Cataclysm > HW > DoK > HW2
HW2 had a good ending. I would have been much more interested in seeing another story, they could have explored other Kiith's or even give you the prospective of the Taiidan
I just finished this story, and it was a let down it had a good hook for the first like 4 missions, unknown anomally from hyperspace burning through the galaxy, but then we are told everything in like a single mission, Incarnate is the enemy, the Queen is a Navigator who wants to bear the galaxies free will but also doesnt want to be alone?(contradiction) The cutscenes were just a mess, like I get it Imogen is closing and opening up the hyperspace dampeners for the 30th time.
I never felt like this was a desperate last attempt at survival or grand revelation on galactic views. Better off keeping the enemy largely unknown or maybe Karan truly went crazy as Sajuuk-Khar. Or an outside galactic threat, (bentusi return perhaps?), or the beast.
Also all of the Incarnate ships are just Vagyr design pretty lame reuse.
Rumor has it Sweet Baby Inc. was involved. Is this true?
This is why I'm here. It feels like it, doesn't it? I didn't even want to finish it.
@@davidhong9112 I didn't buy it yet are you serious? How does it feel like it? Please explain
@@robbie_ Regarding the cutscenes, story, and charactors, I felt disconcerting of the woke aspects. Original navigator, Karan S'Jet is bald now, the new navigator, Imogen S'Jet, she does not look like the charactor in the trailer. She seems to have been... i hate to say, "uglified"? That's a big chin she's got there. The dialogue between her and the captain, the new antagonist , the story I felt was weak. Some times the moving the ships around, the commands sometimes will work. Overall,I felt like this didn't feel like Homeworld. Having loved the other HW , I wasn't sure if I've gotten old. HW2 was over 20 years ago, I'm now 58 years old, perhaps I am not responding well with the new... "ideology"? lol. Just not into it. There's a lot more to say but I don't write a novel about it. I'd hate to say it in this manner but it felt.... "woke".
@@davidhong9112 No, everything is uglified these days. Same with Forbidden West that I played recently. Looks like I won't be spending any money on it then.
Nothing can take us far enough emotion
Far enough together
As the light shines so bright
Bright enough to let us in...
The hairs on the back of my neck stood up when the YES song came on in the end credits of Homeworld 1. Today the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up again and I'm throwing up in a stream...
Search for Steam Curator *_Sweet Baby Inc detected_*
the background structures are so big to the point I'm just thinking I'm controlling drones instead of spaceships and its annoying.
HW3 is a huge disappointment. I already applied for refund on Steam.
I really want it but the reviews on steam are holding me off buying it. Not really sure if i should buy it or wait for a few months or not buy it at all.
Gameplay wise it was a good game, but the story was boring and quite predictable. HW1 and Cataclysm remain the best games in the series.
You cannot make a 2k video and play the game on low graphics 800X600
Thanks, was debating on buying but you convinced me
🏴☠️🏴☠️
They gave it an 8.
Wait for the user reviews
Second review, and no mention about the changes they made in the last 2 months. The game got delayed because of several specific reason, and none of you are talking about that.
This game is a no go for me, the decision to make this game in Unreal Engine 5 (although beautiful to look at) gave the game some really big downsides. The controls are just horrendous, selecting units and giving them orders is annoying as hell in combination with the camera controls. Tactics of approaching certain ships and target sub-systems is another one, but the units also feel so off and weak. And some of the ships had some really stupid design choices, as in putting turrets in a hole.....why aren't these things mentioned. These were concerns people had, did you even do your research or is this just a generic review for clicks???
The game is made in Unreal Engine 4, not 5
@@slave7659 You are absolutely correct ^^
@@Paulusss1 ;)
I have over 1600 hours in Homeworld and Homeworld 2. I did see in the credits they tied themselves to several DEI companies... so won't be buying 3.
Maybe a pass and wait for sins 2
Biggest game of the year
in your dreams xD
What game did you played.
@@EmptySoul01 the biggest game of the year
nah, story was Disney trash
karaan lol
Don't forget Imogeeeeeeen lol
Somewhat undermined if you can't pronounce the characters names.
bruh, was that a Sajuuk? that's a big spoiler
2:08 "But its executed for the most part."
Ok bit weird.
Did you mean to say "executed well"?
Well everyone will try to defend it. I even saw people saying the fan boys should go back HW1.
But no, they did not execute it. They missed the mark in my opinion
The game has Denuvo. So it's a no go for me. I will never install that crap on my computer, not to mention it's even lowering the life-span of the SSD.
On top of that the plot is generic and boring. The number of units is deplorable. Nothing new.
They also copied the Diablo 4 format with 90€ 2days early access and then updates every 2 months, like this game would have that kind of audience! In 2 months everyone will get bored and they will play something else, except the few super fans.
It's not like the game is reinventing the wheel, not even close. Almost a copy paste on a larger scale.
That was the no, when i was watching, go save the worlds, already no, homeworld has a unique way to its story, to make them big, but not saving the universe, also what happen with the black and white cuscenes,
Denuvo is an instant forget about it for me as well. If a game is good, people buy it en masse without that trash being necessary.
@@Krysnha It seems the story is not so good. Nothing dramatic happens and there is no weight to it and the characters are uninteresting with outdated animations.
@@JohnMichaelson Imagine an person from a poor country: Oh! I can't pirate the game, let me sell my house now!
Let's face it, no one cares about piracy if the game is good and they have the money.
This is a bad marketing decision, not to mention the ships have bad AI. Could they not attribute that extra CPU to a better AI instead to run the Denuvo?
@@claudianreyn4529 yes, homeworld storys were simple yet really well wreitten, sober and simple cutscemes, yet impactful,these is like how Vee describe, is THE GAME, homeworld for mass audience
21 years to make 10 hours of gameplay? What a joke 😂
Dude it's not like the developers spent 21 years developing it. The last numbered game in the series was 21 years ago. But since HW2 there was the HW/2 remaster, deserts of Kharak (prequel to HW1) and a HW mobile game.
But it's true though how hard is it though to make a decent sequel 21 years of farting around for what? Mediocre
Way to many cut scenes!
Hm.. The ships die to quick like popcorn! Pop pop. Don't like that.
Ngl Homeworld 3 before gta 6 is crazy
Is this AI talking? It sounds weird and some things are pronounced really weird and just wrong.
Wait few more months for sale.. it will be worth it
I agree. While I do not like what they did with it, I would put it next to SupCom 2, it is worth a playthrough for the campaign. So I will just wait for sale.
Yes, Freespace 3!
Why can you not pronounce Karen and Imogen correctly?
I think this is an ai created script and text to speech. You can tell some of the intination is off, words are missing and some phases don't make sense. Like when it speaks about cover 5:50, just sounds off.
@@Nydusurmainus Ahh okay then. I'm going to criticise it again for being lazy!
21 years for garbage and a game that wasn't really necessary except milking a semi-dead franchise and dividing the fans. Smh.
No.
Visuals BIG YES / Story, voice acting, cutscenes and potato imogen BIG NO. It's overall good game but not magical as 1&2 that's for sure.
Saddening that all the work they've put into visuals and unit voicing is overshadowed by the weakest story ever.
@@riesstiu2khunning Made for a modern audience™
@@TheKnightOfSmiteYeah but was it the "modern audience" who backed it?
I saw you mentioned 1&2 did you play Cataclysm? If not I can recommend it, it is my favourite title in the series.
I wish the story was more about the hiigarans as a people rather than the S’jets
I love the game. Its everything I expected and more.
its so sad how little new ideas this game has on the formula... exatly like age 4 and company of heroes 3.... there is nothing new to these games
which isn't necessarily a bad thing, i have seen to many RTS games go to shit because they felt the need to change things up to much, the dawn of war games being a prime example
@@somthingbrutal While I agree with that to an extent, if they weren't going to really innovate, I wish they hadn't of simplified/dumbed down the game by straight up stripping out things we had in HW1 or HW:C.. Or even HW2. It felt like the focus here was just on it being pretty. If I want that I can go watch a movie.
@@somthingbrutalI agree but at the same time compare HW and Cataclysm. Cataclysm was rwally neat in comparison to it's features. HW2 blew me away with modules and ships large enough they had to hyperspace in.
@@martindejonge695
Having the battlecruiser made by another production facility, and the only one needed for that, made the mothership instantly redundant as a critical part of the game in HW2.
Not only did it do that to the mothership, where it basically became just another carrier, it then made the battlecruiser and shipyard a wasted effort when the progenitor dreadnought and sajuuk itself showed up later.
This game marks a return to form of having the mothership a critical piece of the game like HW1 and Cataclysm/Emergence did, which instantly upped the stakes in any mission.
fourth
Not worth the price.
Big let down, 20 years and its basically just shit homeworld 1 remake, no new factions or anything interesting.
looks terrible, have fun tho
it's crap, so dsapointed
This game is a ripoff for 60 bucks .. not even worth 10
Nope , the game is garbage
This delay of two months does not make any sense if this review is only for single player.
Looks incredibly boring and generic.
Go and look at the cutscene they have remove all the amazing art that the old ones had just generic crap now like every other sci-fi game.
The original games were based on 70s sci fi art. Doesn't this mean the other homeworld games were: 'boring and generic'?
Still better than Cataclysm.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 what are you on about,cataclysm was amazing
When Homeworld was released in 1999, it was without a doubt innovative.
There is nothing innovative about the HW3, except maybe the large objects in the space, which is not a real innovation.
Same ships, even smaller number of units, no original unit actually, one single type of corvette, same type of missions, capture that, defend that, go further.
No surprise in the story as I understand, no emotional connection with the characters. The whole plot is actually boring and generic.
first
Unfortunately, it looks like a game for teenagers that has become dumber over the years...
Going by you as an example, you seem pretty stupid for sticking with Arma 3 all these years like some one trick pony.
Obviously this game is not for you, so go find another game to cry over.
So, you suck at decent RTSs. You sound like the guys I used to stomp in multiplayer.
Same feelings. The narrative creates the impression that more pompous words need to be pushed out, as in cheap patriotic movie scenes and with the same infantile childish joy. The old parts were laconic and that was their highlight. Plus in the old parts people seemed serious having experienced many hardships and adversities weighing every word every decision who over many thousands of years of bedouin harsh life in the sands had learned to keep emotions under complete control.
I prefer to wait a few decades for a good game than to have a rushed DEI game that puts politics in their games.
to all those complaining in the comments that its not homeworld of 20 years ago i say now i know why devs dont make rts games anymore because every little thing people complain about i tthink homeworld 3 is amazong and super fun its one of my most liked rts games in years its better then deserts of karak and super fun story mode is so fun the mystory of why things are happening lie what happened to to caron aslo you can switch from modern crappy controls to legacy controls with all the same hotkeys i like the cover system and other things to people complaining that its not homeworld i say stick with old games from 20 years ago this is more fast paced for modern gamers you people that dont like the rts games we are getting cause a dark age for rts games because you want things to be like it was 20 years ago or more well guess what we have 3d rts games now and we have many good things coming in the rts community o and i did like homeworld 1 but thought it was an overhyped but amazing game for the time but we have moved on its 2024 this is where we are headed for rts games more abilities and units dye more quick even starcraft 2 did this and made combat fast paced from sc1
So the solution is too dumb down all the mechanics and slap a coat of new graphics on it? That's your "new RTS" wave? Fuck that shit. Why don't developers invest in better interface and UI instead of just dumbing gameplay down? If you look at games that actually care about gameplay over graphics you'd see a lot of improvements made to command interface that allow a much better experience even with higher demands on mechanics knowledge.
They could have just used Homeworld 1 gameplay as the base and added a difficulty mode with some mechanics removed to lighten the load on inexperienced players while investing their time in UI and controls.
Yeah Homeworld 3 is a dissapointment, he would of thought they could of made a game worse then homeworld 2 lol.... they managed it!
Lemme guess...you thought that piece of shit Cataclysm was actually good...
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Yes, Cata had the best story. This one has the worst.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 What is it with you hating Cataclysm? Cataclysm was great. Not as good as HW:1 but the twist of the beast was great. I enjoyed it. It was hard for anything to live up to HW:1
@@ChristopherVickers I enjoyed Cataclysm more than even the original. The wacky ship designs, the creepy ass all consuming big bad villain, the amazing voice acting, the underdog story. That understated moment where your main guy finally refers to your tricked out mining ship as a warship. It was great.
Looks WOKE
Are you crying? Sorry, out of tissues, deal with your copium on your own please.
Woke? The lead is actually attractive lol if it was woke she would have blue hair and be 400 pounds
@@edwardp4038 bro there’s not a single white person
@@MarvinWestmaas enjoy body types a and b
@@Gomezli16 im sorry your feelies are hurt because your skin color isnt represented :(