If I remember correctly, this is the 3rd time Argentina have beaten New Zealand now in their last 6 games head to head now. We can't really consider this an upset now
I wouldn't call it a failure on the all blacks part, 10 or 12 years ago they would pull away in last quarter of those games, not anymore. And when once the haka feared opposing teams they collapsed, now they don't!! If Ireland or France play new Zealand now they expect to beat them, not every time obviously but the fear and aura of the black jersey is gone.
That penalty against Argentina from the lineout was insane. He told them they can come up, then proceeded to penalise them after NZ failed to make anything of it. That is the sort of thing that infuriates supporters.
@@hanoitripper1809 Blackadder not getting yellow but Marx does when definitely more mitigation in Marxs was bizarre. Officiating needs to sort its shit out especially with back to back games.
As a kiwi i cant commend argentina enough. Normally their passion is what either gets them across the line or costs them the game but last night once they sorted the discipline out they looked so clinical and outplayed us in every department. Razor and co have got alot to sort out and quick as Argentina inflicting the first AB loss at Eden Park in 30 years has some ring to it.
Oh the tears. Beautiful, beautiful argentina. This is why I love rugby, their passion was tier1, they are just so good to watch when they figure things out. Agustin Creevy - what can you say? It's like he stumbled into one of his best games ever - and he's 39! Pablo played the ref brilliantly and didn't lose his cool, and they just shut down the game so well at the end. Congratulations Argentina 🇦🇷 👏 🇮🇪
What’s the Indian flag for?? lol foh kid It’s always a big when deal when someone flukes a game against the team that have been the best since 1924 lol One game WOW AMAZING 😂😂
All bantz and jokes aside, it's great that Argentina's inclusion in the Rugby Championship has led to them being competitive and able to win against Aus, SA and NZ on a somewhat regular basis
thanks for your support. We may end up getting the wooden spoon again this year, but Argentina has nevertheless clearly increased the level of this tournament. Just look at Italy in the 6N to see an example of inclusions in a tournament that backfire.
@@marcteenhc9793I don’t think including Italy in the 6N has backfired at all. They beat Scotland and Wales this year - and deserved to beat France rather than draw. They sold out their 70,000 seat stadium. It took time, but their inclusion has been a tremendous success. I love that it’s working for Argentina also. You guys should have every chance of avoiding the wooden spoon this year - you are a better team than Australia by far.
@@marcteenhc9793 It takes time for any team to adapt. Building the professionalism and player base also takes times. Juniors development as well. Italy have done that. It's taken time given compared to Argentina the club base is not as strong.
@@user-gc8pc3ol6l Italy has a slightly lower number of amateur rugby players than Argentina (90k vs 100k). For all purposes, the same amount of players at the base. And clearly Italy has not evolved after decades of being part of the 6N. They may have good years, but they are ages below the rest of the 6N teams.
See, they've got you guys hooked. As a NZer I dont think theres much to say Argentina deserved the win. The AB's need to stop basing their game around past glories and move on. This run it around teams BS is stale and hasnt worked in a decade now. The problem is our entire selection policy is based around that so we've got a squad of guys for that gameplan so I cant see much changing until guys like Sotutu come back into the team and we've already lost Akira Ioane to japan so I think Razor goofed there. Those two guys were completely dominant for the blues in super rugby. And frankly I think its guys like Savea and Papali'i that are the main problem. Our loose forwards are being consistenly beaten. It think blackadder is fine but he's constantly played out of position he's a 7 and plays his best rugby at 7.
I’ve said it for years. The All Blacks that dominated used to get away with murder. I’m not saying they weren’t good because they were, but the referees constantly gave them 50-50 calls, tuned a blind eye to the dark arts. They’ve been found out. A drawn Lions series at home. Losing semi in 2019 RWC. A lost home series to Ireland. Awful run into 2023 RWC. Losing finalist again. 5 consecutive losses in Wellington. The aura is gone
As a Saffa I respect the All Blacks. But I have to say they underestimated the Los Pumas and they payed a heavy heavy price. We all know New Zealand are the kings of rotating the ball in the back line. However they forgot Argentina are the kings of broken play and if you don't respect that it will hurt you. Scramble defence is key against the Los Pumas
The Argentina defense was massive, New Zealand have to work out a way to beat the suffocating rush. And 60 minutes without a scrum, as a retired tight head I am devastated. Well done Argentina, deserved.
Super happy for Argentina, they played out of their skin and thoroughly deserved the win. ABs will need to take lessons galore out of this. Bravo Argentina. From a kiwi.
Es lo único que nos queda ya que somos un país subdesarrollado, con todo lo que eso implica para el deporte y el desarrollo en infraestructura. Acá el rugby es amateur pero le metemos muchas ganas
(Vamos Argentina carajo) es cuestion de tiempo, las nuevas generaciones aprenderan de tanta entrega dejada en cada partido, con garra, pasion y el corazon en la mano.♥🎿
Tim, I have been following you for about 18 months now. I'm in Cape Town and I just want to let you know that there is not a single video of you I miss. I love how knowledgeable you are about the game, how down to earth with no gimmicks. Just talking to us as an audience and your passion for the game shines through. Thank you. Keep going. Hope to maybe catch up with you on Sep 7th when the Boks take on the AB's in Cape Town. A day after my B'day. Will be there.
Well done to Argentina. If they can just play like that every game they would be right up there. Scott Robertson can’t walk on water. Now the rugby championship is open but SA in hot seat.
Molina made the step up from Super Rugby of the America's without any issue. Creevy comes in to help out and performs magnificently. Felipe has made a decent start. Argentina u20s were very impressive this summer too. Some real talent in there. Elias already called up and Elizalde (full back) off to Bristol Bears.
I have noticed that the recent games involving Argentina from school boys, Under 20's & and their senior side a vast improvement in their rugby results!
The issue is we insist on this backline dominated game where we are gunna run teams around and go around them and we arent even looking like managing that. I think we need a guy like Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown runnning the team with a completely different mindset to whats been before (atleast the last two decades because we used to do that in the 80's and 90's) where we just go back to hard graft and a big forward pack and beat teams into submisssion because we have the players to do that. I just think we are trying to play a game that existed a decade ago which doesnt exist anymore. All the other teams are wise to this gameplan we are attempting.
@@Biiri-oc8tiArgies caught AB’s by surprise with their abrasive, tough approach fought at close quarters with Matera, Kremer,Creevy in your face and unrelenting. They are following the Bok way
Kiwi here. I've just watched the game live in Wellington and am shocked at the All Blacks disconnected shambles. I love our team and I'm scared for them.
Well done to Argentina, they had a lopsided penalty count against them and were playing in NZ but still won. They were clinical, brilliant on attack and defensively were excellent. Love this channel.
To me, coaches should get very little criticism for games like that. The all blacks had all the tools to win it, and we saw some great work in open play. However, if the players choose to fall asleep at the wheel, the coach can only do so much. The blame lies with the senior players who seemed to switch off when their lead built up a bit, and just couldn’t get back into gear quickly enough. It was a fantastic game. For Argentina, they showed some incredible grit and exceptional play. For New Zealand, it’s arguably more embarrassing that they switched off so prematurely than that they lost.
@@ChasSimpsonnot club rugby though . Razor not been in this position before . He can beast his players in training this week , but Saturday is the day .
That is the sad truth and the problem is next week they will win and forget that these inconsistent performance give confidence to the Pumas and will affect them in crunch tournament like the worldcup
The "Only Thing" Agentina lacked in Wellington, was more Argentina Supporters. Im sure the ones that were there will not forget what they saw. All of Argentina will be glued to their TV's next week thats for sure.
I’m not even that disappointed. Argentina just out muscled and out desired us. Well done to them. I think we’re gonna need to go through some pain before we improve. We’re going to be forced to be bold and make some personnel changes. McKenzie won’t be out 10 for too long, I’m reasonably confident of that. Darry played a great game at lock so a good find there. I feel like a Bokke fan from 2018.
McKenzie is no good under pressure, even Razor said that to his BaaBaa’s team when coaching them. AB’s in for a lot of pain this year. Expect them to bounce back next week but that’s not the point. Saffas are miles ahead of anyone on the planet right now.
They were just the best team on the park. They were creative, had better set pieces, fantastic defense. Played with passion. And they played like a real close knit team. New Zealand looked really flat and a bit at a loss at times. Which might be due to Argentina just playing so well.
AB fan here, Argentina just too good on the night and a well deserved win. Great channel Tim, always look forward to your commentary on the games you review.
100% agree on your call on the inconsistency of the non yellow card for shoulder on head contact - esp since both players were upright so no doubt about attacking player dipping in to the tackle. all we want is consistency.
Tuff for NZ i feel for them but im also happy cause the breakdown gonna be fun😂. Argentina aren't to be taken lightly ever again they deserve max respect.
One other thing we have learnt from this game is that a tackler can put their shoulder into a ball-carrier so long as the tackler is "receiving" the ball-carrier... whatever that means.
What a game! There was a 1 point and 2 point difference for most of the game! Argentina plays with such incredible heart and bravery as you say Tim, I love their heart and bravery! They remind me of the Welsh, since I was a little girl, I always saw the Welsh heart in their rugby. A really bad series of errors on the All Blacks side really gave Argentina the lead. Damian McKenzie is so good although not his best game but I am a fan of his. I have to say that the cocky little smirk he does, is going to make me cross when we(Springboks) play the All Blacks lol.
Amazing match thanks to the boys for blessing us with an amazing game, I'm team springbok but this game wow. I love rugby man, thank you too for the break down love you toooo. Goooo! Rugby
As a south african, that 57 - 0 loss still hurt till today. It should be a reminder to us what the AB can do. They are hurt and we may just be on the receiving end...... again.
Allblack supporter here, congratulations on your win tonight los pumas. You took advantage of the right moments. I am not a english football supporter that demands the firing of the coach/manager after a bad outing and some shaky showings . Anybody who thinks this game is usual AB standards is denying reality. Normal transmission will return, it is taking a little bit longer than expected to undo the foster-era madness. Razor may appear to be a nice guy to outsiders but he will make the difficult decisions. E.g I remember a seasoned senior for the crusaders that was dropped for the final? Which would have been his last game for the club. Stay true and look forward to the evolving blackness.
Argentina becoming like the French team of old…which one will show up…2023s semi final team that rolled over for the ABs or tonight’s tough as nails one that thoroughly deserved their win.
The decision on Blackadder's tackle was absolutely astounding. There's just no standard at all it seems. How is Marx's tackle a yellowcard, but Blackadder's isn't? I agree neither should have been a card, but at this stage is basically a coin toss on what the decision will be.
The ref got that blackadder tackle right but your right Marx's tackle wasnt either and neither was Canes a red in the WC final thats where the problem lies they are carding tackles that are just honest mistakes that dont deserve card just a penalty. Its all just lottery bullchit on the refs whim. That said the guy that reffed this AB game is the best ref in the game atm theres no doubt about that. I thought he handled the blackadder tackle perfectly and told the TMO to piss off with his card BS.
The decision on Blackadder was correct. More refs should have the b*lls to not constantly card people for tackles like this. I think Angus Gardiner did a very good job.
@@austingtircanes red card in the final was shoulder directly to the jaw with no dip if the hips at all. It’s literally the definition for a red card. The fact you think it wasn’t shows how one eyed kiwis are with the AB’s.
@@alphaforcek9164 Bullshit it was a similar thing the bok centre changed direction and dipped into cane who wasnt expecting to even make a tackle let alone have the guy run directly into him.
NZ fan here, Argentina fully deserved their win - no excuses from me. As for the ABs, everybody from the coaching staff, the captain, the starting players, the bench, and the cute little kid waving the black flag at the ground, all need a good, hard kick up the @rse.
1. I’m not convinced Ardee S is the best choice for captain. 2. Argentina just played really well which is bloody exciting because now we’ve actually got a competition!
Congratulations to Argentina on their well-deserved victory, especially for that fantastic final try by 39-year-old veteran hooker and former captain Agustín Creevy. As an All Blacks supporter, it was tough to watch them struggle with a disjointed and uncertain performance, while Argentina executed their game plan brilliantly and capitalized on key moments. It ain't gonna get any easier.
The abs have either scrapped home or lost in NZ for 4 to 5 years now . NZ public just got the reality that’s been swarming around this team for long enough and that was with Retallick ; Whitlock ; Arron Smith and Richie Mounga and now the Emporer with no clothes has fully arrived . For the first time in 40 years I fear in SA it will be a blood bath honestly . The most concerning thing is the brains trust has completely gone and all street smarts in the gutter . Who’s in that huddle with clear motivation to job the dam job . Nothing zip just passionless . It’s ok we have 19 coaches now to help that with … Well done SA there special from a kiwi ..
When I started watching the video u had 98.9k subs and now u have 99K I’m going to recruit my classmates to this channel and I promise by the time you come to SA we’ll be celebrating 💯
As I have said many times, everyone has caught up on the All Blacks since 2015(Once in a generation squad). We have struggled with mixed performances on many occasions since that squad of players has left. We have lost our identity and quite frankly have been unable to find it in the new players coming through. After this performance, I can see us getting smashed by South Africa, kissing the Rugby Championship goodbye. Imagine that 2015 squad playing today, would smash everyone in their path, including the current All Black team.
Considering how poor the Pumas discipline was first 15 minutes it's a great recovery to keep the heads after. ABs look like a pragmatic team nothing wrong with it but they lacked the grit Argentina had today. Creevy was a game changing substitute and so glad he scored. Argentina Vs Boks should be the most entertaining game of the RC this year.
Fozzie was literally every problem with the AB’s. Cocky, arrogant and started NZ down the slippery slope, also guy had some amazing players to work with in comparison to Razor.
What a Game and menacing play by Argentina. Problems in Wellington, Razor brought down to reality on just how questionable his team are. There are problems in New Zealand. Razors honeymoon with media should also be over. If it was Fozzie, media would have been out for his blood. Well played Argentina
@@IverKnackerov we are talking the RC where New Zealand has dominated over the years. Even when they lose the odd game against someone it just serves to make the comp more exciting. That is what history has shown us, and they win this comp even after bad starts. SA being odds on favs doesn't do anything for what goes happens on the field.
@@mthunziphakathi4215 yup. You're correct. Some bizarre officiating too. Marx gets yellow, but Blackadder stays on when more mitigation in Marxs collision.
😂 can’t wait to hear the dribble garbage that his spouts. Let’s see if he thinks what the all blacks are serving up is still the best spectacle to watch in rugby 😂😂😂
If I remember correctly, this is the 3rd time Argentina have beaten New Zealand now in their last 6 games head to head now. We can't really consider this an upset now
Your completely correct one should not consider this latest AB loss an upset, oh no it's far far worse than that. It's a complete failture.
Exactly - it was Argentina's to win & win decisively, they did.
Nope not a shame either, they’ve beaten us also on home soil .
I wouldn't call it a failure on the all blacks part, 10 or 12 years ago they would pull away in last quarter of those games, not anymore. And when once the haka feared opposing teams they collapsed, now they don't!! If Ireland or France play new Zealand now they expect to beat them, not every time obviously but the fear and aura of the black jersey is gone.
@@Kenny-zn6dl Agreed and great for the game that competition or opposition is tough.
That penalty against Argentina from the lineout was insane. He told them they can come up, then proceeded to penalise them after NZ failed to make anything of it. That is the sort of thing that infuriates supporters.
What minute was it
@@hanoitripper1809 Blackadder not getting yellow but Marx does when definitely more mitigation in Marxs was bizarre. Officiating needs to sort its shit out especially with back to back games.
Scott Robertson now knows the difference between super rugby and test rugby, pressure is on him now.
Feel for him though. He had to give up his spot on the NZ Olympic breakdance team because it clashed with this match ... and then he still lost. 😝
@@LittleBigMediaCo😂😂
He’s just realised the AB are far off the pace. England aren’t in the same conversation as SA, Ire, FRA and Arg.
@@mitch2924Foster was not that bad after all…….he got NZ to the final after beating Argie
@mitch2924 england fumbled those games let's be honest. They should've at least won one of them
As a neutral watching - it was a fantastic game.
Well done Pumas - such grit , cheek, determination and skill.
As a kiwi i cant commend argentina enough. Normally their passion is what either gets them across the line or costs them the game but last night once they sorted the discipline out they looked so clinical and outplayed us in every department.
Razor and co have got alot to sort out and quick as Argentina inflicting the first AB loss at Eden Park in 30 years has some ring to it.
Oh the tears. Beautiful, beautiful argentina. This is why I love rugby, their passion was tier1, they are just so good to watch when they figure things out.
Agustin Creevy - what can you say? It's like he stumbled into one of his best games ever - and he's 39! Pablo played the ref brilliantly and didn't lose his cool, and they just shut down the game so well at the end.
Congratulations Argentina 🇦🇷 👏 🇮🇪
Rugby fans' standards in the mud if u think that was a good game. Nrl is so clear in both skill and entertainment
@@Malaperiera So when a team beats the AB's, it's never a good game? Rofl...tears are salty AF.
What’s the Indian flag for?? lol foh kid
It’s always a big when deal when someone flukes a game against the team that have been the best since 1924 lol
One game WOW AMAZING 😂😂
@w0tnessZA nah, all rugby games the same, just kick the ball away whenever u get it.
@fu8713 the team that has been the best since the 90s.
As an AB supporter - huge congratulations to Argentina 🎉 Your team was awesome. Well deserved win
Excellent game for Los Pumas, a well-deserved victory!
That's good sportsmanship 👏
Thank you mates
For us Argentines it is an honour to play against Nz
❤ Gracias!!!
Jesus there's so many South African haters in these comments it's kinda weird seeing a comment from a kiwi
All bantz and jokes aside, it's great that Argentina's inclusion in the Rugby Championship has led to them being competitive and able to win against Aus, SA and NZ on a somewhat regular basis
thanks for your support. We may end up getting the wooden spoon again this year, but Argentina has nevertheless clearly increased the level of this tournament. Just look at Italy in the 6N to see an example of inclusions in a tournament that backfire.
@@marcteenhc9793I don’t think including Italy in the 6N has backfired at all. They beat Scotland and Wales this year - and deserved to beat France rather than draw. They sold out their 70,000 seat stadium. It took time, but their inclusion has been a tremendous success.
I love that it’s working for Argentina also. You guys should have every chance of avoiding the wooden spoon this year - you are a better team than Australia by far.
They keep playing like today, the Pumas are contenders for the cup, nevermind the wooden spoon! You were world class today!
@@marcteenhc9793 It takes time for any team to adapt. Building the professionalism and player base also takes times. Juniors development as well. Italy have done that. It's taken time given compared to Argentina the club base is not as strong.
@@user-gc8pc3ol6l Italy has a slightly lower number of amateur rugby players than Argentina (90k vs 100k). For all purposes, the same amount of players at the base. And clearly Italy has not evolved after decades of being part of the 6N. They may have good years, but they are ages below the rest of the 6N teams.
Man Argentina DESERVED that. They were just really good.
Cant wait for the breakdown they about to breakdown again😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Sir John Kirwan lol
😂😂😂😂
@@chfeeke4764 That guy is clown royalty.
@@chfeeke4764his gonna say they were bewitched and was still hang up on the rwc final
I've never been ready for Breakdown show as much as I do at the moment 😅 Argentina has made my weekend
Ditto
😂 It is going to be very interesting!
See, they've got you guys hooked. As a NZer I dont think theres much to say Argentina deserved the win. The AB's need to stop basing their game around past glories and move on. This run it around teams BS is stale and hasnt worked in a decade now. The problem is our entire selection policy is based around that so we've got a squad of guys for that gameplan so I cant see much changing until guys like Sotutu come back into the team and we've already lost Akira Ioane to japan so I think Razor goofed there. Those two guys were completely dominant for the blues in super rugby. And frankly I think its guys like Savea and Papali'i that are the main problem. Our loose forwards are being consistenly beaten. It think blackadder is fine but he's constantly played out of position he's a 7 and plays his best rugby at 7.
@@austingtir Stale and boring, one trick ponies. 😉
Has anyone checked in on Goldie and John Kirwin?? They might be on the verge of another epic breakdown … 😂😂
Kirwin complaining about the NZ kicking game...😂😂😂
They must ageing quicker this weekend. Especially JK. It will be interesting if he shows up on that mediocre rugby show called the breakdown..
Hilarious 😂 😃
@wlk2408 What?? To few scrums? Thats a joke.
I’ve said it for years. The All Blacks that dominated used to get away with murder. I’m not saying they weren’t good because they were, but the referees constantly gave them 50-50 calls, tuned a blind eye to the dark arts. They’ve been found out. A drawn Lions series at home. Losing semi in 2019 RWC. A lost home series to Ireland. Awful run into 2023 RWC. Losing finalist again. 5 consecutive losses in Wellington. The aura is gone
As a Saffa I respect the All Blacks. But I have to say they underestimated the Los Pumas and they payed a heavy heavy price. We all know New Zealand are the kings of rotating the ball in the back line. However they forgot Argentina are the kings of broken play and if you don't respect that it will hurt you. Scramble defence is key against the Los Pumas
The ABs will always be respected by us Saffas, they will 100% bounce back. Argentina were incredible and I am so happy for them. What a rugby game.
That Argentinian line-out was the best I've seen in a very long time. Brilliant.
Yes the decoy mid-jumper and flat throw to guy in front, spin & score a try - that was slick.
It was wild 😊
That Creevy interview had me in tears, then he said next week he wants to do it again. Kremer and those centres were amazing.
What interview? Can you pass the link for it? I'm in England, can't get NZ tv. Thanks
@@salacious_motekpost match interview.
@@salacious_motek It was on the sky nz broadcast right after the match with Joe Wheeler
@@afikiletokwe9938 Thanks for that
@@oldblack15 thank you
The Argentina defense was massive, New Zealand have to work out a way to beat the suffocating rush. And 60 minutes without a scrum, as a retired tight head I am devastated. Well done Argentina, deserved.
This is going to be an amazing Rugby Championship 🤟
Super happy for Argentina, they played out of their skin and thoroughly deserved the win. ABs will need to take lessons galore out of this. Bravo Argentina. From a kiwi.
Fairytale stuff Creevy scoring a try! What a legend in a legendary game. Loved it!
Thank you Tim. This channel is absolutely my favorite Rugby channel on CZcams
The Argentinians play with so much passion.
Es lo único que nos queda ya que somos un país subdesarrollado, con todo lo que eso implica para el deporte y el desarrollo en infraestructura. Acá el rugby es amateur pero le metemos muchas ganas
@@cuentocuantico901callate salame. 🇦🇷❤️💪
@@GodeffroyFaerber mira un termo, debes ser kuka vos
(Vamos Argentina carajo) es cuestion de tiempo, las nuevas generaciones aprenderan de tanta entrega dejada en cada partido, con garra, pasion y el corazon en la mano.♥🎿
Los Pumas were absolutely ruthless! They made over 100m in territory from over 50 carries.
Well done to the Argies.They showed the ABs what passion is all about.
Tim, I have been following you for about 18 months now. I'm in Cape Town and I just want to let you know that there is not a single video of you I miss. I love how knowledgeable you are about the game, how down to earth with no gimmicks. Just talking to us as an audience and your passion for the game shines through. Thank you. Keep going. Hope to maybe catch up with you on Sep 7th when the Boks take on the AB's in Cape Town. A day after my B'day. Will be there.
I hope the Boks win and give you a nice b'day present boet!
Get a room mate - I'm about to throw up !!!
@@BigBoyGames-ke1hq I agree, the amount of boot licking from my fellow South Africans are embarrassing.
Well done to Argentina. If they can just play like that every game they would be right up there.
Scott Robertson can’t walk on water.
Now the rugby championship is open but SA in hot seat.
Molina made the step up from Super Rugby of the America's without any issue. Creevy comes in to help out and performs magnificently. Felipe has made a decent start. Argentina u20s were very impressive this summer too. Some real talent in there. Elias already called up and Elizalde (full back) off to Bristol Bears.
"What a pair of .... flankers!" 😂❤😂
Well Done Los Pumas!
Argentina has become an absolute equal participant and is so needed in southern hemisphere rugby.....
Congratulations to Los Pumas really guys congratulations 🎉🎉
I have noticed that the recent games involving Argentina from school boys, Under 20's & and their senior side a vast improvement in their rugby results!
Congrats Pumas 🎊🎉Well deserved win💪
As a South Afican I think its time for the AB's to rethink their game. Good win Argentina ❤
We don’t have the cattle mate. It’s as simple as that.
@@Kubeka2or Fossie…….he was not too bad after all
The issue is we insist on this backline dominated game where we are gunna run teams around and go around them and we arent even looking like managing that. I think we need a guy like Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown runnning the team with a completely different mindset to whats been before (atleast the last two decades because we used to do that in the 80's and 90's) where we just go back to hard graft and a big forward pack and beat teams into submisssion because we have the players to do that. I just think we are trying to play a game that existed a decade ago which doesnt exist anymore. All the other teams are wise to this gameplan we are attempting.
As a Kiwi, I whole heartedly agree. The AB's prefer loose & fast. Well guess what that didn't work. Completely humiliated & rightly so.
@@Biiri-oc8tiArgies caught AB’s by surprise with their abrasive, tough approach fought at close quarters with Matera, Kremer,Creevy in your face and unrelenting. They are following the Bok way
Kiwi here. I've just watched the game live in Wellington and am shocked at the All Blacks disconnected shambles. I love our team and I'm scared for them.
Blame JK and JW.Motivating the opponents at every turn
Well done to Argentina, they had a lopsided penalty count against them and were playing in NZ but still won. They were clinical, brilliant on attack and defensively were excellent. Love this channel.
Australia and New Zealand really need the South African teams in Super rugby. The forward packs don't look up to scratch.
I waa crying after Argentina won the game😢😢😢wow who would have thought
To me, coaches should get very little criticism for games like that. The all blacks had all the tools to win it, and we saw some great work in open play. However, if the players choose to fall asleep at the wheel, the coach can only do so much. The blame lies with the senior players who seemed to switch off when their lead built up a bit, and just couldn’t get back into gear quickly enough.
It was a fantastic game. For Argentina, they showed some incredible grit and exceptional play. For New Zealand, it’s arguably more embarrassing that they switched off so prematurely than that they lost.
If they had of played at McLean Park the stadium would have been sold out.
Agree totally. Nowadays All blacks make mistakes and feel pressure from scoreboard pressure as all top teams do . Top nations have caught them up .
Fantastic Argentina! From a Springbok!❤
Argentina never stopped backing themselves
Yep. Game was electric.
What a win for the Pumas, massive ❤❤❤
What a game, Razor got a wake up call. Well done Argentina 🇦🇷 the dominated the AB’s. Go Agustin C
Razor looked livid! Would hate to be on the end of his change room talk. ABs are going to have a nightmare training this week.
@@ChasSimpson you mean, the training session they should have had before being beaten.
Agustín!
@@ChasSimpsonnot club rugby though . Razor not been in this position before . He can beast his players in training this week , but Saturday is the day .
@@ChasSimpson razor razor razor . Bla bla bla...
NZ TV experts, Kirwan in denial. Agree, NZ were outplayed, fair and square. Out muscled …
Your a "Famous All Black" when you Win, yet your playing credentials immediately come under scrutiny when you lose. Such is the curse of being an AB.
That is the sad truth and the problem is next week they will win and forget that these inconsistent performance give confidence to the Pumas and will affect them in crunch tournament like the worldcup
@@tusonjoko6757 Are you sure about that? I think Los Pumas will want to have something to say about that. Vamos Los Pumas!
The "Only Thing" Agentina lacked in Wellington, was more Argentina Supporters. Im sure the ones that were there will not forget what they saw. All of Argentina will be glued to their TV's next week thats for sure.
I thought Gardener certainly didn't make it easy for the Pumas. Seriously gutsy performance from Argentina. Well done Pumas.
Well played Argentina, a thoroughly deserved victory. We have a lot of work to do in a week .
Gracious in defeat. Respect!!
Gus Creevy was immense in such a short shift!
Dear Tim: a good opportunity to start showing real respect for Argentina. Love your channel.
Well done Argentina. Creevy is the man.
I’m not even that disappointed. Argentina just out muscled and out desired us. Well done to them.
I think we’re gonna need to go through some pain before we improve. We’re going to be forced to be bold and make some personnel changes.
McKenzie won’t be out 10 for too long, I’m reasonably confident of that. Darry played a great game at lock so a good find there.
I feel like a Bokke fan from 2018.
No man, we lost against Italy! U have got some ways to go haha
McKenzie is no good under pressure, even Razor said that to his BaaBaa’s team when coaching them. AB’s in for a lot of pain this year. Expect them to bounce back next week but that’s not the point. Saffas are miles ahead of anyone on the planet right now.
😂😂😂 those were sore, sore times
@wilfredsmith183 And japan in a world cup but looks like NZ on their way to losing to Japan and Italy
@@wilfredsmith183😂😂😂
They were just the best team on the park. They were creative, had better set pieces, fantastic defense. Played with passion. And they played like a real close knit team.
New Zealand looked really flat and a bit at a loss at times. Which might be due to Argentina just playing so well.
AB fan here, Argentina just too good on the night and a well deserved win.
Great channel Tim, always look forward to your commentary on the games you review.
100% agree on your call on the inconsistency of the non yellow card for shoulder on head contact - esp since both players were upright so no doubt about attacking player dipping in to the tackle. all we want is consistency.
Tuff for NZ i feel for them but im also happy cause the breakdown gonna be fun😂. Argentina aren't to be taken lightly ever again they deserve max respect.
Really respect how much warning you give us with the result and avoiding spoilers
Thanks for the upload Tim. Appreciate the content from SA
Los Pumas are getting better every year not to written off any longer, what a awesome start to the rugby championship 👌
One other thing we have learnt from this game is that a tackler can put their shoulder into a ball-carrier so long as the tackler is "receiving" the ball-carrier... whatever that means.
Augistine crevy.what a legend
What a game! There was a 1 point and 2 point difference for most of the game! Argentina plays with such incredible heart and bravery as you say Tim, I love their heart and bravery! They remind me of the Welsh, since I was a little girl, I always saw the Welsh heart in their rugby. A really bad series of errors on the All Blacks side really gave Argentina the lead. Damian McKenzie is so good although not his best game but I am a fan of his. I have to say that the cocky little smirk he does, is going to make me cross when we(Springboks) play the All Blacks lol.
Back to Rugby weekends 🔥
"The man who dips himself in a tub of vaseline, before every match, so slippery" - legend line...
Amazing match thanks to the boys for blessing us with an amazing game, I'm team springbok but this game wow. I love rugby man, thank you too for the break down love you toooo. Goooo! Rugby
As a south african, that 57 - 0 loss still hurt till today. It should be a reminder to us what the AB can do. They are hurt and we may just be on the receiving end...... again.
Not everything is about South Africa 🤣
Such passion.. from Argentina
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Allblack supporter here, congratulations on your win tonight los pumas. You took advantage of the right moments.
I am not a english football supporter that demands the firing of the coach/manager after a bad outing and some shaky showings . Anybody who thinks this game is usual AB standards is denying reality. Normal transmission will return, it is taking a little bit longer than expected to undo the foster-era madness. Razor may appear to be a nice guy to outsiders but he will make the difficult decisions. E.g I remember a seasoned senior for the crusaders that was dropped for the final? Which would have been his last game for the club. Stay true and look forward to the evolving blackness.
Argentina becoming like the French team of old…which one will show up…2023s semi final team that rolled over for the ABs or tonight’s tough as nails one that thoroughly deserved their win.
The decision on Blackadder's tackle was absolutely astounding.
There's just no standard at all it seems.
How is Marx's tackle a yellowcard, but Blackadder's isn't?
I agree neither should have been a card, but at this stage is basically a coin toss on what the decision will be.
Marx yellow was a joke, absolutely zero head contact. Felt the ref started carding the Boks just because they were running away with it.
The ref got that blackadder tackle right but your right Marx's tackle wasnt either and neither was Canes a red in the WC final thats where the problem lies they are carding tackles that are just honest mistakes that dont deserve card just a penalty. Its all just lottery bullchit on the refs whim. That said the guy that reffed this AB game is the best ref in the game atm theres no doubt about that. I thought he handled the blackadder tackle perfectly and told the TMO to piss off with his card BS.
The decision on Blackadder was correct. More refs should have the b*lls to not constantly card people for tackles like this. I think Angus Gardiner did a very good job.
@@austingtircanes red card in the final was shoulder directly to the jaw with no dip if the hips at all. It’s literally the definition for a red card. The fact you think it wasn’t shows how one eyed kiwis are with the AB’s.
@@alphaforcek9164 Bullshit it was a similar thing the bok centre changed direction and dipped into cane who wasnt expecting to even make a tackle let alone have the guy run directly into him.
NZ fan here, Argentina fully deserved their win - no excuses from me. As for the ABs, everybody from the coaching staff, the captain, the starting players, the bench, and the cute little kid waving the black flag at the ground, all need a good, hard kick up the @rse.
1. I’m not convinced Ardee S is the best choice for captain.
2. Argentina just played really well which is bloody exciting because now we’ve actually got a competition!
He's not, but Scotty Barrett is injured.
Felicidades Pumas,vamos vamos juntos a ganar, bravo
I played myself. After watching the Boks game I told my dad I am not watching this All blacks are taking this EZ. OH! BOY! Was I wrong!
razor isnt the wonder coach everyone thinks he is, he had a great canturbury team that carried him , this is a different level
Coaches do selection. Players need to play. Look to the men on the field for answers not coaches
Not true. Blackadder had the same team and won nothing.
Congratulations to Argentina on their well-deserved victory, especially for that fantastic final try by 39-year-old veteran hooker and former captain Agustín Creevy. As an All Blacks supporter, it was tough to watch them struggle with a disjointed and uncertain performance, while Argentina executed their game plan brilliantly and capitalized on key moments. It ain't gonna get any easier.
Tim... we love you!!! Thanks for being as obsessed with rugby as we all are 😂😂 you were first and fastest with the reaction video! Respect ❤️🙌🏾
60 mins without a scrum. That must be a first in a long time
It sort proves the ball handling was fault free, doesn´t it? That is unusual. Pf course, in a few instances there was a previous infraction.
The abs have either scrapped home or lost in NZ for 4 to 5 years now . NZ public just got the reality that’s been swarming around this team for long enough and that was with Retallick ; Whitlock ; Arron Smith and Richie Mounga and now the Emporer with no clothes has fully arrived . For the first time in 40 years I fear in SA it will be a blood bath honestly . The most concerning thing is the brains trust has completely gone and all street smarts in the gutter . Who’s in that huddle with clear motivation to job the dam job . Nothing zip just passionless . It’s ok we have 19 coaches now to help that with … Well done SA there special from a kiwi ..
The end of an era...wont be long before all blacks will go down and down further...amen
When I started watching the video u had 98.9k subs and now u have 99K
I’m going to recruit my classmates to this channel and I promise by the time you come to SA we’ll be celebrating 💯
It's 100k today
This might just end up being the best ever rugby championship 🎉
Can't wait for John Kirwan's bleating session this week.
He applied for leave lol
Well done Argentina...Cant wait for Sir Kirwan....
As I have said many times, everyone has caught up on the All Blacks since 2015(Once in a generation squad). We have struggled with mixed performances on many occasions since that squad of players has left. We have lost our identity and quite frankly have been unable to find it in the new players coming through. After this performance, I can see us getting smashed by South Africa, kissing the Rugby Championship goodbye. Imagine that 2015 squad playing today, would smash everyone in their path, including the current All Black team.
Considering how poor the Pumas discipline was first 15 minutes it's a great recovery to keep the heads after.
ABs look like a pragmatic team nothing wrong with it but they lacked the grit Argentina had today.
Creevy was a game changing substitute and so glad he scored. Argentina Vs Boks should be the most entertaining game of the RC this year.
Maybe Fozzie wasn't the problem... 😅
fozzie had much better and experienced players to work with.
Fozzie won 2 of the first 5 Razors ahead already, and if we win next week his record from the first 5bwill be 4 v 2. Big difference
Fozzie was literally every problem with the AB’s. Cocky, arrogant and started NZ down the slippery slope, also guy had some amazing players to work with in comparison to Razor.
Great analysis! Thank you from Argentina.
What a Game and menacing play by Argentina. Problems in Wellington, Razor brought down to reality on just how questionable his team are. There are problems in New Zealand. Razors honeymoon with media should also be over. If it was Fozzie, media would have been out for his blood. Well played Argentina
I thought the Pumas would be bullied. Turns out it was the other way round. Well done to the Argies
Matera looked like the world player of the year tonight. Epic performance. All Blacks yearning for Richie Mo’ounga and Shannon Frizzell
frizell 😂
It's not that the All Blacks played poorly...Los Pumas were brilliant...
Al borde de los 100 K suscriptores, felicitaciones !!! Gracias por la reacción
that pukana from Molina was pure brilliance.
This opens up the RC, lets buckle up for a wild ride over the next couple of months.
World champs were odds on favourites before ….and now their odds have shortened. Not open at all
@@IverKnackerov we are talking the RC where New Zealand has dominated over the years. Even when they lose the odd game against someone it just serves to make the comp more exciting. That is what history has shown us, and they win this comp even after bad starts. SA being odds on favs doesn't do anything for what goes happens on the field.
@@mthunziphakathi4215 ABs not getting a losing bonus point will be vital I reckon.
@@rodwellchigome7567 last year's RC was an indication how 1 call at the end of a game could swing a whole competition.
@@mthunziphakathi4215 yup. You're correct. Some bizarre officiating too. Marx gets yellow, but Blackadder stays on when more mitigation in Marxs collision.
Vamos Argentina!
The important questions to ask here is how many minutes of ball in play we had, and if the losing team at least played beautiful ball-in-hand rugby?
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Something I thought I'd never say but I am looking forward to Monday now, purely just to see the Breakdown chaos with Sir John Kirwan
😂 can’t wait to hear the dribble garbage that his spouts. Let’s see if he thinks what the all blacks are serving up is still the best spectacle to watch in rugby 😂😂😂
ABs made some huge errors which cost them the game. Pumas were great! Excited for next match
They still can't play under heavy pressure.
@@jerrybuirski2344 Means Boks will have easy games and wins against ABs right?
No easy game. They must focus more than ever now. @HeeniKeke
@@HeeniKeke NEVER easy against the ABs.
@@HeeniKeke Not easy, but yes, we should win both games at home. Up the Boks! Congrats to Los Pumas.
Vamos Pumas, carajo !
The gap between the world's top two teams and NZ just got bigger! Shocking defense from them but all credit to Argentina!
Almost 100k, Tim, you beast!
You do not want to get into a scrap with Argentina. They love a dog fight.