Yes please on more budget minded whips. All the Tubers review unobtanium bikes. It gets boring. We know XX1 is sweet and Yeti is awesome. Tell us something we don't know.
Showing the love for Budget full sus! I ride a 2017 diamondback release that I got back in 2018 for $1600 brand new. Rockshox front and rear, sram level brakes and NX drive train, and I added a dropper post. She's a beast! I've ridden Whistler, Keystone and NC bike parks alongside bikes 3x as expensive. Nothing better than sending some huge features after watching someone case on a $7000 Santa Cruz 😉
Last weekend I took my relatively inexpensive gravel bike, with nobby tires and all on a road ride and outran many people on some very expensive aero road bikes.
@@thinkdrinks384 I think the frames are great, although Im not a huge fan of the most recent component set for the money. Keep an eye out though I got mine as last year's model on black friday and it was a steal!
Do I want a dream bike? Yes. Can I afford it? No. As a soon to be dad, my budget is 3k Max. I'm no sponsored pro, just a casual enthusiast. These are the price point videos we'd like to see more of. Thank you.
you should really look into a brand called Radon. Their frames are decent, but the components you get on them are out of this world at their price point. You could also look at Commencal, great bikes and good value!
I just want to say “THANK YOU!” for doing this segment on a bike that didn’t cost more than my Mustang when I purchased it. Not everyone can afford those high end bikes and end up buying the ones near the $2-3k price point. Doing reviews like this one helps those of us out that can’t afford, or just even purchase the Yeti & Santa Cruz bikes.
I just got a GT Aggressor pro for my 15th birthday as I'm starting to ride the local trails. It was $400 and I owe my parents $150 as the price tag was too high for them. I feel that I speak for most teens getting into the sport when I say budget means the cheapest quality bike that is available.
Big reason I've been riding GT since 1992...they put the latest tech in our hands at a decent price...n they WORK!! Drooling over this one now...thanks alot!!!😁
I appreciate and enjoyed this video. I view this bike as an attainable goal, whereas the high end bikes you get us drooling over are more of just a dream. Excellent review, with usable information, presented in the same manner as the dream bikes you review. Quite a bike for the money!🤙👍👊👍🤙
@Worldwide Cyclery Thanks for listening to your followers and doing a review in this price range. I think this review and your blogpost will help folks looking at this price point and specifically this model. I really appreciate the production work on a product that is not even offered for sale by WWC. I feel like because this isn't your target market, your opinions are especially helpful here. That's a great service to the MTB community. 👍
After coming back to this channel of over a year away (even though this an older vid) its still one of the best on YT. Presentation and Editing always 5/5!
I got a 2019 Trek Fuel EX 8 for a similar price. Excellent bike with very good components. Of course, your subliminal salesmanship and great WWC pricing lured me in to upgrading it to be be even better!
Giant trance 2 2019. Bought it for what would equate to $1,800 USD (I'm from New Zealand). Got Shimano slx and 4 pot brakes, full fox suspension, a dropper, and a little bit of carbon on the linkage. I can ride it on double blacks with no issue. Love the thing.
Awesome review, as detailed as your high end review stuff, love the same attention to detail even for the ‘budget’ bike. Also, thank you for the great attitude to functional, sturdy kit and not knocking it. For guys and girls on a budget (or just not wanting to spend too much) it’s disheartening to hear that it’s gotta be XX1, XTR, Fox, Lyric blah, blah or it’s poor. My £2,500 Giant Trance, Fox 34 Rhythm, SLX transmission and brakes is some of the best kit I’ve had on a bike, and it keeps working week after week. The more I watch your site, the more I like it, good job guys 👍🏻
I just bought the 2022 GT Sensor Sport from an ebay auction. I will eventually swap out the fork, upgrade to an XT shifter and make it tubeless. This should drop the weight by 4lbs. Thanks for this video.
Soni ride a 2016 gt sensor al comp and m.j I can say in the past 3 years the spec has definitely improved. I have a 2x10 no dropper no boost quick release style rear axle weighs half a ton geo is out dated. It also was my first full sus after coming off a cheap hardtail and getting into the sport and got it from a small local shop that cut me a good deal and that I already trusted for bigger repairs. Also also saving for an sb165 right now
I think u did a awesome thing w this review more people need these mid 2 to 3 grand reviews alot of us have to save and work our asses off for 3 grand thank u and do more reviews like this please
The Rockymountain Instinct Alloy 30 can keep up with this bike spec for spec and is a little cheaper and lighter to boot! Great video, I look forward to more of these!
Picked one up last week for $1200, rode Graham swamp in Palm Coast, Florida today and had a blast! If you are on the fence about getting one, pull the trigger. I upgraded from an awesome “budget” Giant Fathom 2. Also a great bike.
I actually have this 2019 GT Sensor Comp - it's pretty much the best handling bike I've ridden in almost 30 years of continuous mtb riding....The whole inexpensive package punches far above it's class...it incredibly fun to play around on trail features with, and has such a laid back feel, you can get away with a lot of shenanigans on this bike - and it's very inexpensive for the performance it offers....the 2020 version tweaks it further forward. If you're in the market, don't be a snob and pass this one by. BTW, only thing I changed on this bike was reversing the brake levers (right lever front brake moto style) and adding a Spank Vibrocore 15mm rise bar and some Ergon GE1 grips...that's all I needed for perfection
Scott Silvers id like to know how it’s holding up so far? I’m considering getting the middle carbon model, the expert. I’m an advanced rider, I’m 13 and I race enduros in southern Quebec and 140mm of travel is really all I need so yeah what do you think of your sensor so far?
Mr. JDM I’m still really digging it! Nothing has broken or worn out, it’s been completely reliable. The only thing was a squeaky pivot I took apart to re-lube. I did have to get a hand held bar type torque wrench to service the pivots (many torque wrenched don’t do 5nm) - gt support has been great on answering questions I sent them about servicing the pivots. The bike still rips and is a blast to ride.
I love the fact that the market in general is allowing for more bike selection closer to the more affordable end of the spectrum. This is a great and smart spec, hard to hate that. One thing to keep in mind though, is that a lot of people aren't just necessarily just getting into the sport who are buying around the $1500-$3500 price point, for many this is just the amount of money they feel comfortable putting into a recreational activity.
The YT Jeffsy AL Base weighs in at 30.7 lbs. And it is at $2,400 Also it has the Fox 34 Float Rythym up front and a Fox Float DPS Performance shock out back.
Fox 34 Float Rhythm is a Fork. And that's what's on the base Jeffsy, not a Lyrik. Lyrik is an expensive fork. I don't know of any company that specs a Lyrik level fork on a base level bike.
Jeff,It appears someone at your place has done lots and lots and lots of research on what your market wants to see LOL . Thanks for doing a " blue collar "review .I appreciate seeing the high end bike reviews but at the end of the day I can not spend that kind of coin on a bicycle ( no matter how bad ass it is ) .Keep up the good work and just know that you are very appreciated man !
He keeps saying a long time ago, my first full suspension from 2016 was $2700 and came with 2x9 under powered brake, quick release hub and a noodly 32mm fork on a 140 travel trail bike. Bikes are awesome these days!
I just bought a Santa Cruz Megatower frame (3800€), cause my economy is able to spend that much in a piece of carbon fiber, but I really enjoy these videos in where bikes with different prices and specs to fit everyone’s possibilities are shown, so there the sport will be enjoyed the same way no matter if your bike is 2000€ or 12000€, it’s all down to passion, feeling and friendly atmosphere in the trails!!
It’s great to see the lower price stuff. When you ask about this price range most places laugh at you or blow you off. Not everyone can afford the best, but we all enjoy riding! I started with hard tail entry level, then jumped to a entry level full suspension. Now I am ready to take this kind of step. I was thinking of going for a Giant Trance, but this seems like a good option. I would like some input and recommendations 👊🏼👍🏼🚵🏽.
I have a 2022 GT Sensor Sport. It comes with a Deore drivetrain. I upgraded the shifter to an XT shifter and installed a chain guide. I also installed Shimano 4 piston brakes Next I will make it tubeless. The Recon Silver fork feels buttery smooth so I may just keep it. MTB' s is an industry of Diminishment of Returns on your Investment. A 3k bike gives up to 90% of the performance of a 10k bike for a fraction of the cost. This can explain why I see so many high end bikes on sale used.
My son had a GT Hardtail and was starting to race so we bought him a GT Sensor at Christmas a couple of years ago. He was 13 at the time and spent all of his money over the next 2 years upgrading all of the parts... then we noticed a crack in the lower chainstay. GT did not want to know saying that bike 'looked too aggressive' and must have been 'ridden out of spec' so they wouldn't consider any warranty claim (despite the bike being less than 3 years old when it happened). No possibility of buying a replacement part either. I can't see either of us ever buying another GT, which is a shame since it was the brand that got me into biking in the mid 1990s.
This sucks, and is the same reason I'll never buy a Suntour product. After buying a budget bike ($800.00 2017 Diamondback Atroz 2) that had their shock on it. It came out of the box messed up they wouldn't fix it, or do anything for me. Saying it's because I bought the bike online and not at a bike shop (was an authorized bike shop, online). These companies suck now days you spend thousands of dollars with them they act like they're doing you a favor!! No Jeff it's not a great thing that a decent, cheap bike cost $3,000.00 dollars that's when the industry has gotten way out of hand!! When you can buy new Motorsports vehicles for what you paid for your bicycle there is a problem! One has hundred's more hands building it, more time engineering it, more costly items on it (like engines and transmission's) and it cost less then a few pieces of aluminum welded together!! Someone is full of shit!!!! Who? High end bike shops, and companies that sell to them!!! In the bike industry alone you can go to Great Brittain and pick up E-MTB's for the price of "entry level" bikes in the USA!
10 a C e bikes Jody Bennett II The UK is HANDS DOWN the place to buy your bikes from. They’re not as out of hand with prices as a lot of these ducking American companies are over here. It’s become a dick measuring competition of who spent the most.
10 a C e bikes Jody Bennett II Suntour wasn’t the one you should have contacted wtf? This is not their fault 100%, the only thing to blame is the shop you bought it from.
@@narekl1297 I did go to the bike company they are the first ones to tell me they wouldn't replace it further more it's 100 percent their problem as it is THEIR product I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings talking about this sorry ass company but they are shit and I wouldn't piss on fire to put them out #FKSUNTOUR this is not rocket science even when you take your bike to the shop they call the company that makes the parts and when that company denies the claim you either buy a new part or call the company..... period! When a company makes a part and it's damaged or defected and they offer a warranty but won't actually warranty their junk ass product it's 100 percent their fault
Great review, sounds like a great bike. I think "budget friendly" is a relative term for everybody and their own personal financial situation. I guess the understanding should be that you're talking "budget bike" relative to overall mtb costs. I was riding a 10 year old Trek 3-series hard-tail and had no idea about mtb price-points...had a little "sticker shock" when shopping. However, I found a Fuji Outland 1.3 (29-er full suspension) for $1100 (new). Definitely a budget bike! I added a dropper seat post and put a wider tire on the front, but that's about the only changes. So far, great bike and rides really nice!
I would like to throw in the mix that the new Giant Reign 29 is slightly more travel equivalent right at $3000 USD. There are more differences of course but still GT and Giant can be seen in a local bike shop!
Yes, more budget bikes please. Maybe a comparison video for the riders out there who can't spend much on a bike? The Trek Fuel EX5 is at $2,100 and the YT Jeffsey AL Base is at $2,400. Both would be awesome to compare next to the GT.
Should take a look at the GT Force 29 as well. Picked one up a few months ago just under 3K and have no problem charging anything and everything. Components are top notch IMO: Fox DPX2 rear shock, Marzocchi Z1 in the front
2019 Transition patrol on sale $3600 great all around bike for trails and park. Have my hard tail for local trails and this full sus for dh. My do it all bike for the next 7+ years
You can get the base model canyon strive for $2,999 right now for their end of season sale. That's a carbon full suspension Enduro bike with the shapeshifter technology.
Another great video WC that is definitely a lot of bike for the money...but I challenge you to make a comment that warrants you using "Bruce", or even better, "Herbert" from Family Guy.
In my opinion it's the extreme high end of a budget bike. I would love to see bikes under $1k get reviews. I'm just getting into mountain biking and I bought a haro flightline two 27.5 bike. At just under $500 that seemed high for me just starting. The more i look and research the more i realize how low end it is. But I would really like to see budget upgrades for people like me on a entry bike. I do think I will be getting the rockshox recon rl fork thanks to your video of top fork pics under $500.
Old-school here, for sure. I have a Sensor... 2011 model, I-Drive! Unbuilt frame in long-term storage.... I also have a Setter Reken HT, 2012, and a Hardrock Sport, unknown year. The first 2 are ebike conversions. All 3 together cost me less than $3k to build up. Budget bikes? You damn betcha buddy! 15 years ago, $2625 would buy you something mid-range, say from the Big S, Marin, or Jamis(!). But with the direction MTB has gone, yeah, this GT would be budget.
I got a 2016 Diamondback Catch for $2100 on black friday. 27.5+, Fox suspension, sram guide R brakes, sram GX 11 speed, race face cranks and bb, ks dropper. Have almost 3 thousand miles on it now.
Just bought a rocky mountain pipeline a30 with 140mm travel front reba rockshox and fox evo back, shimanoo brakes, raceface dropper post, 11-46 cassette, and plus tires. All for just 1600 dollars out the door. So yes there are better deals out there.
*ATTENTION EVERYONE!!* Despite the fact that this was a great video, there is another bike I must let everyone know about, it’s the 2020 commencal clash origin, it’s a beast 180 front 165 rear enduro style bike for only 2400 USD!!!!!!
Mountain biking gets expensive quick...but just like any hobby out there you can't expect to get a lot for little money, industry is there to make money after all. That being said, there are good deals out there for sure and you can get a decent bike without shelling out mad money. Couple of options to consider: direct to consumer brands and getting a used bike. In both cases you need to understand that you are going to compromise something. I have had several used bikes and got them at price points that allowed me to save money initially and slowly upgrade parts as they wore out. Bikes loose value pretty fast and there are folks out there who get high spec machines, ride them for year or two and upgrade. That's where you come it and scoop up the bike. Do your research and find negotiating point so you don't overpay and have some money for service/replacement parts. Budget friendly bikes are a good starting point and depending on where you decide to take this activity you will be either spending more money of higher end parts or replacing less expensive ones more often, that has been my experience at least. No, you don't need xx1 and kashima coating there is happy middle there too that you will find (different for everyone)
I believe that the price I got my bike for was absolutely mental, I was on a budget of $2500 AUD and was able to pick up a Merida one twenty 600 trail bike with almost the exact same spec as this for $1700 AUD. It has a fox dps rear shock and manitou fork, boost spacing front and rear, slx drivetrain, shimano hydraulics, dropper post. I mean what else could you ask for at this price point? That’s what I call value for money.
is the bike shown in the video the 2019 model? GT's site shows the 2020 as having SX Eagle and 4 piston tektro brakes which is more comparable to Giant's Trance 29 2
I think "budget" might depend on the number of years experience you have on a mountain bike. Less than one year $1000 or less. A year or 2, $1000 to $2500. 2 to 5 years, $2500 to $3500. 5 or more years $3500 and up. Also if you are competing in events then there is no limit on price cuz you always need the best you can get. I've been riding only 8 months and am saving for a full sus frame (if the price is right a complete bike) for enduro. My 5 year plan is a full sus E-bike, gotta save my pennies ;-) Anyways thats my 2 cents. Time+motivation=$
The term budget also literally depends on your budget. People tend to get angry at guys with limited experience and the pockets to buy high end bikes. However, they're the ones funding this trickle down where you can decent bikes for decent pricing. By all means, buy that $10k bike sirs. I agree with your progression assessment. I think it's a good barometer for the average person. Though, unless I am racing to win money and championships, I'm not racing a $10k bike. I'm racing a $2625 bike and upgrading when things break, because they're going to break. A lot.
I totally agree, and upgrading as things break is absolutely the wisest way to go. If you are a racer ThatGuyThatDoesStuff I wish you the best in your racing career.
@@thatguythatdoesstuff7448 Yap you right, I'm biking 15 years but still my budget was "only" 2500e. Get Radon Swoop 170 27.5" for it and I'm totally happy about it :D.
I got a gt avalanche 6 months ago for $500 on sale. I didn't know what I was doing. It was a wallmart bike basically. Garbage. I'm glad I sold it and got a stumpjumper.
Everyones budget is differnt... I gueas you have to consider money and time/passion invested in the sport. Personally I lice the sport but also can't justify spending 7k+ on a high end bike.... But I like those bikes. That's why I buy them used. I like to say, I'm the cheap guy with epensive taste.
I totally agree Time+motivation=$ I dont think you're cheap either, the smart man buys the used car cuz the other guy ate the depreciation, then you get a good car at a great price. Same goes for bikes, well done CBYR.
@@thinkdrinks384 I bought a used bike last year that was practically brand new....rode it for a year...and aold it for 100 bucks less. How do you go wrong with that?
I'm curious as to what is going to happen to resale values in the future. Bikes are not changing much other than the specs that they come with are getting better for the money. I wonder how many people are going to try and cut just a couple hundred off of these bikes upon resale after a year or two. It should be interesting to see on pinkbike which bikes hold value. I've recently seen some yeti sb6 2016 (fox suspension and enve carbon wheels) sell for 2850.00. Also, I've seen many other yetis with not quite those specs sell for under 3000. I'm much more likely to get a high spec used Yeti for the same price point regardless of insurance. You get high end which lasts is the point. Just don't forget your bike is on the roof of your car when you drive into your garage. If the used resale values after 2 years is cut in half with most bikes, that is sort of a bummer and makes me reconsider even the price of this bike over a used bike.
This 2019 version is being replaced by the 2020 Sensor Comp, but just recently got it on sale online. Seems like a solid bike, but I'm replacing the brakes and rotors right away. Mt400 level brakes are really not that good.
Canyon you can get a carbon fibre with rockshox fork pike and sram drivr train for 2600 sterling Plus if you do. Your research you can get good parts from less like hunt wheels weigh less than some high end carbon wheels and are bomb proof well good wheels for price don't think you can't go wrong with slx and now shimano have a 12 speed drive train can see them coming back in years to come
I know this is unusual question but could u tell me which bike around $4000 full suspension. Is the most comfortable sitting up right position for flat riding. I want one for flat that will be super comfortable crossing sidewalks in city without getting sore now I have specialized bike that has no suspension at all and I’m looking for full suspension! And once in a while I’ll go off road but 95% I won’t. Thank u
Do you want to see more budget bike review? If so, which bike do you want to see next?
Devinci Troy sx/nx
@@24mtb74 can you do the jeffsy al base or comp
24 Mtb yoo same
Good bikes for Clydesdales would be nice 👍
Commencal clash origin, yt jeffsy or Capra al base
Yes please on more budget minded whips. All the Tubers review unobtanium bikes. It gets boring. We know XX1 is sweet and Yeti is awesome. Tell us something we don't know.
Showing the love for Budget full sus! I ride a 2017 diamondback release that I got back in 2018 for $1600 brand new. Rockshox front and rear, sram level brakes and NX drive train, and I added a dropper post. She's a beast! I've ridden Whistler, Keystone and NC bike parks alongside bikes 3x as expensive. Nothing better than sending some huge features after watching someone case on a $7000 Santa Cruz 😉
I am considering buying a full sus Diamondback this fall, what would you recommend now that you've ridden yours 2 years?
Last weekend I took my relatively inexpensive gravel bike, with nobby tires and all on a road ride and outran many people on some very expensive aero road bikes.
@@thinkdrinks384 I think the frames are great, although Im not a huge fan of the most recent component set for the money. Keep an eye out though I got mine as last year's model on black friday and it was a steal!
Gotta get the bike that fits you that’s for sure. Just because a bike costs a lot doesn’t mean it’s the best for you or where you ride.
@@topdogpenguin arent level brakes for xc?
Do I want a dream bike? Yes. Can I afford it? No.
As a soon to be dad, my budget is 3k Max. I'm no sponsored pro, just a casual enthusiast. These are the price point videos we'd like to see more of. Thank you.
you should really look into a brand called Radon. Their frames are decent, but the components you get on them are out of this world at their price point. You could also look at Commencal, great bikes and good value!
Was gonna by a yeti but just bought 3 of these instead
I just want to say “THANK YOU!” for doing this segment on a bike that didn’t cost more than my Mustang when I purchased it. Not everyone can afford those high end bikes and end up buying the ones near the $2-3k price point. Doing reviews like this one helps those of us out that can’t afford, or just even purchase the Yeti & Santa Cruz bikes.
I just got a GT Aggressor pro for my 15th birthday as I'm starting to ride the local trails. It was $400 and I owe my parents $150 as the price tag was too high for them. I feel that I speak for most teens getting into the sport when I say budget means the cheapest quality bike that is available.
I got the same bike..the bright green. They are great bikes
Big reason I've been riding GT since 1992...they put the latest tech in our hands at a decent price...n they WORK!! Drooling over this one now...thanks alot!!!😁
I remember in the 90s everyone was rocking the GT except me...I always wanted one but couldn't afford it. I got a GT mountain bike now
Now, mountain bikers can afford to live in a home and shower everyday!
Old mtbers love in a van with bottled water
I just bought a GT carbon sensor elite for under $3,000 (end of year sale) I'm absolutely in love with the bike! Keep up the great videos
I appreciate and enjoyed this video. I view this bike as an attainable goal, whereas the high end bikes you get us drooling over are more of just a dream. Excellent review, with usable information, presented in the same manner as the dream bikes you review. Quite a bike for the money!🤙👍👊👍🤙
Spot on!!!
@Worldwide Cyclery Thanks for listening to your followers and doing a review in this price range. I think this review and your blogpost will help folks looking at this price point and specifically this model. I really appreciate the production work on a product that is not even offered for sale by WWC. I feel like because this isn't your target market, your opinions are especially helpful here. That's a great service to the MTB community. 👍
After coming back to this channel of over a year away (even though this an older vid) its still one of the best on YT. Presentation and Editing always 5/5!
I got a 2019 Trek Fuel EX 8 for a similar price. Excellent bike with very good components. Of course, your subliminal salesmanship and great WWC pricing lured me in to upgrading it to be be even better!
Great bike for a great price. Good on you guys for helping people get into the sport by reviewing entry-level bikes!
This is a nice bike. I also looked at Trek and specialize. I ended up going with a Intense ACV. Couldnt be happier. Love the videos.
That money gets you carbon Canyon/YT from end of year sale.
And now entry level giant trance advance 3 carbon
But they're not very good quality
In a size small
Well what do you think will be at end of year sale? the same price dipshit. can say that about anything.
@@th_js canyon have some of the best bikes and for the price you get a very high spec bike with a carbon frame
Giant trance 2 2019. Bought it for what would equate to $1,800 USD (I'm from New Zealand). Got Shimano slx and 4 pot brakes, full fox suspension, a dropper, and a little bit of carbon on the linkage. I can ride it on double blacks with no issue. Love the thing.
Awesome review, as detailed as your high end review stuff, love the same attention to detail even for the ‘budget’ bike. Also, thank you for the great attitude to functional, sturdy kit and not knocking it. For guys and girls on a budget (or just not wanting to spend too much) it’s disheartening to hear that it’s gotta be XX1, XTR, Fox, Lyric blah, blah or it’s poor. My £2,500 Giant Trance, Fox 34 Rhythm, SLX transmission and brakes is some of the best kit I’ve had on a bike, and it keeps working week after week. The more I watch your site, the more I like it, good job guys 👍🏻
I just bought the 2022 GT Sensor Sport from an ebay auction. I will eventually swap out the fork, upgrade to an XT shifter and make it tubeless. This should drop the weight by 4lbs. Thanks for this video.
Soni ride a 2016 gt sensor al comp and m.j I can say in the past 3 years the spec has definitely improved. I have a 2x10 no dropper no boost quick release style rear axle weighs half a ton geo is out dated.
It also was my first full sus after coming off a cheap hardtail and getting into the sport and got it from a small local shop that cut me a good deal and that I already trusted for bigger repairs.
Also also saving for an sb165 right now
I think u did a awesome thing w this review more people need these mid 2 to 3 grand reviews alot of us have to save and work our asses off for 3 grand thank u and do more reviews like this please
do more videos with lower price point products more often!!! this was really helpful
The Rockymountain Instinct Alloy 30 can keep up with this bike spec for spec and is a little cheaper and lighter to boot! Great video, I look forward to more of these!
it's what i am setting my sights on . i have owned 2 of the original i-drives . they were amazing bikes !
Picked one up last week for $1200, rode Graham swamp in Palm Coast, Florida today and had a blast! If you are on the fence about getting one, pull the trigger. I upgraded from an awesome “budget” Giant Fathom 2. Also a great bike.
I actually have this 2019 GT Sensor Comp - it's pretty much the best handling bike I've ridden in almost 30 years of continuous mtb riding....The whole inexpensive package punches far above it's class...it incredibly fun to play around on trail features with, and has such a laid back feel, you can get away with a lot of shenanigans on this bike - and it's very inexpensive for the performance it offers....the 2020 version tweaks it further forward. If you're in the market, don't be a snob and pass this one by. BTW, only thing I changed on this bike was reversing the brake levers (right lever front brake moto style) and adding a Spank Vibrocore 15mm rise bar and some Ergon GE1 grips...that's all I needed for perfection
Scott Silvers id like to know how it’s holding up so far? I’m considering getting the middle carbon model, the expert. I’m an advanced rider, I’m 13 and I race enduros in southern Quebec and 140mm of travel is really all I need so yeah what do you think of your sensor so far?
Mr. JDM I’m still really digging it! Nothing has broken or worn out, it’s been completely reliable. The only thing was a squeaky pivot I took apart to re-lube. I did have to get a hand held bar type torque wrench to service the pivots (many torque wrenched don’t do 5nm) - gt support has been great on answering questions I sent them about servicing the pivots. The bike still rips and is a blast to ride.
Scott Silvers hey man, I appreciate the reply and I’m glad to hear that it’s a good bike so yeah thanks and have fun sending it on your sensor!
I love the fact that the market in general is allowing for more bike selection closer to the more affordable end of the spectrum. This is a great and smart spec, hard to hate that. One thing to keep in mind though, is that a lot of people aren't just necessarily just getting into the sport who are buying around the $1500-$3500 price point, for many this is just the amount of money they feel comfortable putting into a recreational activity.
Yes, want to see more "budget" options!
I have a bunch of cremme’ bikes, but I’m trying to get a buddy into it, so this video was perfect.
The YT Jeffsy AL Base weighs in at 30.7 lbs. And it is at $2,400
Also it has the Fox 34 Float Rythym up front and a Fox Float DPS Performance shock out back.
Fox 34 Float Rhythm is a Fork. And that's what's on the base Jeffsy, not a Lyrik. Lyrik is an expensive fork. I don't know of any company that specs a Lyrik level fork on a base level bike.
Thanks for the correction
Jeff,It appears someone at your place has done lots and lots and lots of research on what your market wants to see LOL . Thanks for doing a " blue collar "review .I appreciate seeing the high end bike reviews but at the end of the day I can not spend that kind of coin on a bicycle ( no matter how bad ass it is ) .Keep up the good work and just know that you are very appreciated man !
He keeps saying a long time ago, my first full suspension from 2016 was $2700 and came with 2x9 under powered brake, quick release hub and a noodly 32mm fork on a 140 travel trail bike. Bikes are awesome these days!
I just bought a Santa Cruz Megatower frame (3800€), cause my economy is able to spend that much in a piece of carbon fiber, but I really enjoy these videos in where bikes with different prices and specs to fit everyone’s possibilities are shown, so there the sport will be enjoyed the same way no matter if your bike is 2000€ or 12000€, it’s all down to passion, feeling and friendly atmosphere in the trails!!
It’s great to see the lower price stuff. When you ask about this price range most places laugh at you or blow you off. Not everyone can afford the best, but we all enjoy riding! I started with hard tail entry level, then jumped to a entry level full suspension. Now I am ready to take this kind of step. I was thinking of going for a Giant Trance, but this seems like a good option. I would like some input and recommendations 👊🏼👍🏼🚵🏽.
Definitely a budget. Super nice bike !!
Just brought the GT Force Elite 29 for £2500. Insane bike and great value aswell. Has a Marzocchi Bomber Z1, Fox DPX2, and SX Eagle 🤟
As someone who rides a moderately spec'd hardtail, this is the bike with a value proposition which would make an ideal next step.
Ibis Ripmo AF 3k with dvo suspension and nx 12 speed.. Smokin deal!!
I have a 2022 GT Sensor Sport. It comes with a Deore drivetrain. I upgraded the shifter to an XT shifter and installed a chain guide. I also installed Shimano 4 piston brakes Next I will make it tubeless. The Recon Silver fork feels buttery smooth so I may just keep it. MTB' s is an industry of Diminishment of Returns on your Investment. A 3k bike gives up to 90% of the performance of a 10k bike for a fraction of the cost. This can explain why I see so many high end bikes on sale used.
My son had a GT Hardtail and was starting to race so we bought him a GT Sensor at Christmas a couple of years ago. He was 13 at the time and spent all of his money over the next 2 years upgrading all of the parts... then we noticed a crack in the lower chainstay. GT did not want to know saying that bike 'looked too aggressive' and must have been 'ridden out of spec' so they wouldn't consider any warranty claim (despite the bike being less than 3 years old when it happened). No possibility of buying a replacement part either. I can't see either of us ever buying another GT, which is a shame since it was the brand that got me into biking in the mid 1990s.
This sucks, and is the same reason I'll never buy a Suntour product. After buying a budget bike ($800.00 2017 Diamondback Atroz 2) that had their shock on it. It came out of the box messed up they wouldn't fix it, or do anything for me. Saying it's because I bought the bike online and not at a bike shop (was an authorized bike shop, online). These companies suck now days you spend thousands of dollars with them they act like they're doing you a favor!! No Jeff it's not a great thing that a decent, cheap bike cost $3,000.00 dollars that's when the industry has gotten way out of hand!! When you can buy new Motorsports vehicles for what you paid for your bicycle there is a problem! One has hundred's more hands building it, more time engineering it, more costly items on it (like engines and transmission's) and it cost less then a few pieces of aluminum welded together!! Someone is full of shit!!!! Who? High end bike shops, and companies that sell to them!!! In the bike industry alone you can go to Great Brittain and pick up E-MTB's for the price of "entry level" bikes in the USA!
10 a C e bikes Jody Bennett II The UK is HANDS DOWN the place to buy your bikes from. They’re not as out of hand with prices as a lot of these ducking American companies are over here. It’s become a dick measuring competition of who spent the most.
10 a C e bikes Jody Bennett II Suntour wasn’t the one you should have contacted wtf? This is not their fault 100%, the only thing to blame is the shop you bought it from.
@@narekl1297 I did go to the bike company they are the first ones to tell me they wouldn't replace it further more it's 100 percent their problem as it is THEIR product I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings talking about this sorry ass company but they are shit and I wouldn't piss on fire to put them out #FKSUNTOUR this is not rocket science even when you take your bike to the shop they call the company that makes the parts and when that company denies the claim you either buy a new part or call the company..... period! When a company makes a part and it's damaged or defected and they offer a warranty but won't actually warranty their junk ass product it's 100 percent their fault
3 years is a long time, they cant just fix anything, if it happened in 3 months I could understand.
Great review, sounds like a great bike. I think "budget friendly" is a relative term for everybody and their own personal financial situation. I guess the understanding should be that you're talking "budget bike" relative to overall mtb costs.
I was riding a 10 year old Trek 3-series hard-tail and had no idea about mtb price-points...had a little "sticker shock" when shopping. However, I found a Fuji Outland 1.3 (29-er full suspension) for $1100 (new). Definitely a budget bike! I added a dropper seat post and put a wider tire on the front, but that's about the only changes. So far, great bike and rides really nice!
I would like to throw in the mix that the new Giant Reign 29 is slightly more travel equivalent right at $3000 USD. There are more differences of course but still GT and Giant can be seen in a local bike shop!
Propain definitely has the best value out of all bike brands, but if we're US specific, YT is definitely up there.
GT is amazing. I have been riding GT`s for 26 years and I will for as long as I can ride. With GT I have no worries.
so amazing that you don't even need to close your helmet :) minute 8:26
Yeah that’s my next bike ! I have GT aggressor , would like to change out 3 to single crank , tubeless tires etc
Yes, more budget bikes please. Maybe a comparison video for the riders out there who can't spend much on a bike? The Trek Fuel EX5 is at $2,100 and the YT Jeffsey AL Base is at $2,400. Both would be awesome to compare next to the GT.
Should take a look at the GT Force 29 as well. Picked one up a few months ago just under 3K and have no problem charging anything and everything. Components are top notch IMO: Fox DPX2 rear shock, Marzocchi Z1 in the front
2019 Transition patrol on sale $3600 great all around bike for trails and park. Have my hard tail for local trails and this full sus for dh. My do it all bike for the next 7+ years
Haha I like the flapping helmet straps at 6:08 Good vid btw😂😂
Reamonn is notorious for not following standard safety procedure...
Ghost is also very good at Budget. For example the Kato Fs Universal
You can get the base model canyon strive for $2,999 right now for their end of season sale. That's a carbon full suspension Enduro bike with the shapeshifter technology.
Another great video WC that is definitely a lot of bike for the money...but I challenge you to make a comment that warrants you using "Bruce", or even better, "Herbert" from Family Guy.
In my opinion it's the extreme high end of a budget bike. I would love to see bikes under $1k get reviews. I'm just getting into mountain biking and I bought a haro flightline two 27.5 bike. At just under $500 that seemed high for me just starting. The more i look and research the more i realize how low end it is. But I would really like to see budget upgrades for people like me on a entry bike. I do think I will be getting the rockshox recon rl fork thanks to your video of top fork pics under $500.
I just bought a Fezzari Abajo peak, spec’s are awesome at 2 and some change
Old-school here, for sure. I have a Sensor... 2011 model, I-Drive! Unbuilt frame in long-term storage....
I also have a Setter Reken HT, 2012, and a Hardrock Sport, unknown year.
The first 2 are ebike conversions. All 3 together cost me less than $3k to build up. Budget bikes? You damn betcha buddy!
15 years ago, $2625 would buy you something mid-range, say from the Big S, Marin, or Jamis(!). But with the direction MTB has gone, yeah, this GT would be budget.
I got a 2016 Diamondback Catch for $2100 on black friday. 27.5+, Fox suspension, sram guide R brakes, sram GX 11 speed, race face cranks and bb, ks dropper. Have almost 3 thousand miles on it now.
Could you make a video or videos about Banshee Bikes? Would be nice! Btw. Great Videos👍🤘
Check out Polygon N8 at USD2,699 & N9 at USD2,999. Great bike too.
Have a 2019 Force, my only complaint is a low BB since i get a lot of pedal strikes but otherwise it absolutely rips the downhills
Thanks. From us common folks...
Just bought a rocky mountain pipeline a30 with 140mm travel front reba rockshox and fox evo back, shimanoo brakes, raceface dropper post, 11-46 cassette, and plus tires. All for just 1600 dollars out the door. So yes there are better deals out there.
*ATTENTION EVERYONE!!*
Despite the fact that this was a great video, there is another bike I must let everyone know about, it’s the 2020 commencal clash origin, it’s a beast 180 front 165 rear enduro style bike for only 2400 USD!!!!!!
Fezzarri makes awesome full suspension bikes for cheap.
Mountain biking gets expensive quick...but just like any hobby out there you can't expect to get a lot for little money, industry is there to make money after all. That being said, there are good deals out there for sure and you can get a decent bike without shelling out mad money.
Couple of options to consider: direct to consumer brands and getting a used bike. In both cases you need to understand that you are going to compromise something.
I have had several used bikes and got them at price points that allowed me to save money initially and slowly upgrade parts as they wore out. Bikes loose value pretty fast and there are folks out there who get high spec machines, ride them for year or two and upgrade. That's where you come it and scoop up the bike. Do your research and find negotiating point so you don't overpay and have some money for service/replacement parts.
Budget friendly bikes are a good starting point and depending on where you decide to take this activity you will be either spending more money of higher end parts or replacing less expensive ones more often, that has been my experience at least. No, you don't need xx1 and kashima coating there is happy middle there too that you will find (different for everyone)
What about that Ripmo AF 🔥🔥🔥
I believe that the price I got my bike for was absolutely mental, I was on a budget of $2500 AUD and was able to pick up a Merida one twenty 600 trail bike with almost the exact same spec as this for $1700 AUD. It has a fox dps rear shock and manitou fork, boost spacing front and rear, slx drivetrain, shimano hydraulics, dropper post. I mean what else could you ask for at this price point? That’s what I call value for money.
Giant trance 29er👌🏻
Hell yeah great vid! Crem DE le Crem! 😅
You can get a Sonder Evol, which is a SICK bike for as low as $1600
is the bike shown in the video the 2019 model? GT's site shows the 2020 as having SX Eagle and 4 piston tektro brakes which is more comparable to Giant's Trance 29 2
Try the polygon Siskiu n9. Incredible components for the most part and its only 2599.
I like you Peter! I mean Jeff!
GT Forever
I drive a 98' Corolla, but I shred on Yeti 150! Try that out for perspective!
I think "budget" might depend on the number of years experience you have on a mountain bike. Less than one year $1000 or less. A year or 2, $1000 to $2500. 2 to 5 years, $2500 to $3500. 5 or more years $3500 and up. Also if you are competing in events then there is no limit on price cuz you always need the best you can get. I've been riding only 8 months and am saving for a full sus frame (if the price is right a complete bike) for enduro. My 5 year plan is a full sus E-bike, gotta save my pennies ;-) Anyways thats my 2 cents. Time+motivation=$
The term budget also literally depends on your budget. People tend to get angry at guys with limited experience and the pockets to buy high end bikes. However, they're the ones funding this trickle down where you can decent bikes for decent pricing.
By all means, buy that $10k bike sirs.
I agree with your progression assessment. I think it's a good barometer for the average person. Though, unless I am racing to win money and championships, I'm not racing a $10k bike. I'm racing a $2625 bike and upgrading when things break, because they're going to break. A lot.
I totally agree, and upgrading as things break is absolutely the wisest way to go. If you are a racer ThatGuyThatDoesStuff I wish you the best in your racing career.
@@thinkdrinks384 I used to enter amateur races from time to time, years ago. These days, I'm racing down the mountain to get to the lunch tent.
I'm 42 so that lunch tent sounds like the best part of the day to me too, ha ha ha
@@thatguythatdoesstuff7448 Yap you right, I'm biking 15 years but still my budget was "only" 2500e. Get Radon Swoop 170 27.5" for it and I'm totally happy about it :D.
Good bike and kit for sure! But as others have said Canyon /YT, 3k goes a long way with both bands.
I have the big step brother to this the sanction eliet love it but 189mm travel is way to much
I got a gt avalanche 6 months ago for $500 on sale. I didn't know what I was doing. It was a wallmart bike basically. Garbage. I'm glad I sold it and got a stumpjumper.
My YT Capra is the same price but has none of the raceface/shimano junk on it. It has a real fork too (Lyrik) and 1x12. Real brakes too
Everyones budget is differnt... I gueas you have to consider money and time/passion invested in the sport.
Personally I lice the sport but also can't justify spending 7k+ on a high end bike.... But I like those bikes. That's why I buy them used. I like to say, I'm the cheap guy with epensive taste.
I totally agree Time+motivation=$ I dont think you're cheap either, the smart man buys the used car cuz the other guy ate the depreciation, then you get a good car at a great price. Same goes for bikes, well done CBYR.
@@thinkdrinks384 I bought a used bike last year that was practically brand new....rode it for a year...and aold it for 100 bucks less. How do you go wrong with that?
looks good. How about a Trance ?
This is a Nice bike...
Always been a GT fanboy. Their bikes are built like tanks, especially their aluminum bikes.
Canyon/YT and/or even Diamondback Release.
I'm curious as to what is going to happen to resale values in the future. Bikes are not changing much other than the specs that they come with are getting better for the money. I wonder how many people are going to try and cut just a couple hundred off of these bikes upon resale after a year or two. It should be interesting to see on pinkbike which bikes hold value. I've recently seen some yeti sb6 2016 (fox suspension and enve carbon wheels) sell for 2850.00. Also, I've seen many other yetis with not quite those specs sell for under 3000. I'm much more likely to get a high spec used Yeti for the same price point regardless of insurance. You get high end which lasts is the point. Just don't forget your bike is on the roof of your car when you drive into your garage. If the used resale values after 2 years is cut in half with most bikes, that is sort of a bummer and makes me reconsider even the price of this bike over a used bike.
This 2019 version is being replaced by the 2020 Sensor Comp, but just recently got it on sale online. Seems like a solid bike, but I'm replacing the brakes and rotors right away. Mt400 level brakes are really not that good.
Canyon you can get a carbon fibre with rockshox fork pike and sram drivr train for 2600 sterling
Plus if you do. Your research you can get good parts from less like hunt wheels weigh less than some high end carbon wheels and are bomb proof well good wheels for price don't think you can't go wrong with slx and now shimano have a 12 speed drive train can see them coming back in years to come
What upgrades you guys recommend for that bike???
I wish that was a budget for me
You need to Look at the Radon swoop 29 170 2019
I have 27.5 8.0 and it is perfect for the money
Giant Regin 2 2017 2k 160mm
I know this is unusual question but could u tell me which bike around $4000 full suspension. Is the most comfortable sitting up right position for flat riding. I want one for flat that will be super comfortable crossing sidewalks in city without getting sore now I have specialized bike that has no suspension at all and I’m looking for full suspension! And once in a while I’ll go off road but 95% I won’t. Thank u
You should check out Trek Fuel EX 5
$2100 and everything you listed is on that bike
wish list...so expensive here in manila
A lot of riders sleep on Orbea Occam at their price point
Man GT really not playing lol. Everyone and there sister promoting the wings
I got a cannondale habit 6 for $1850, added a dropper
Are the Comp and Sport models the same frame just with different components?