Thank you! I am trying to explain a bit more in my later reviews how it feels to ride the bike. The specs is something that everyone can find themselves. Cheers!
Agree with your comments about gears - surely we don't need more than 10 gears on an eBike! I would definitely prefer a more robust and cheaper 10 speed system.
@@MTBs I've seen this discussed on another video, I think there are a few people that agree, but maybe we have to convince the rest! 12 speeds for a bike where the motor cuts out at 25kph is one gear for every 2kph change in speed, totally unnecessary, especially when the motor effectively makes you 3x stronger! p.s. This bike looks amazing, but €10,000 is a LOT of money for a bike. I can buy a decent car for that kind of money!
That was a great video with lots of information in it. Maybe you are not the best rider (like me), but you can summarize the caracteristics very well. Personally I am not sure about the rattle of the EP8, but I guess if you don't go for the Brose motor which seems to be very unreliable, the EP8 is still the best take.
Thank you! Just talked to a dealer that have worked with all the big motor brands. His take on it is that all motors have their issues, but the Yamaha motors just keep going. A good warranty policy is always going to be important, the motors are expensive to fix or replace.
On one ebike I have XT 11 speed with Di2 and it seems to last me about 950 miles. On my Merida E9000 I've just got 1300 miles on 12 speed XT and I have not found any issue with gear selection. I know where I live in Wales, I appreciate the lower gears on occasion. Rob Rides channel says it's his favourite group set.
Hi and thank you for your comment! Yes, I know "everyone" says that XT is their favourite group set and it is great that it works fine for you (and Rob 😆). But when I tested against a couple of other ebikes I liked the shifting action on the SLX a bit better despite that being a "lower" spec. Perhaps I need more miles to fully appreciate the XT. On normal MTBs, 10 and 11 speeds usually lasts longer than 12 and 13 speed cassettes (and chains). Since there is more torque through the drivetrain on a eMTB I assume 10 or 11 speed cassettes would last even longer. Cheers!
Great video! Just subscribed. I’m thinking of buying the 700 model because of my budget. I hope i can see your comparison with the lower versions like the 700
Thank you! If I will get my hands on a 700 i will give it a try. I only had access to the carbon models. Anyways, the best-seller will probably be the 700. On paper it seems to have good enough components and it's good value for money for being a Merida.
Awesome review really helps me! Just stuck on if I spend that extra money on the 9000 because I want that suspension but I just don’t know If I can spend that much. Currently pre ordered the 8000 model but this is the last week I have the chance to upgrade the pre order. What should I do have any opinions for me! Going to be an investment for the next min 5-6 years thanks
Thanks Corin! Note that I am in no way an expert, I am only a happy amateur who is fortunate enough to test fun and expensive bikes. BUT in my opinion the fork is what is most important to consider. I have not tested the Marzocchi, but it seems to have got good reviews from other testers. It is almost impossible to give someone advice without back-to-back testing the two forks. Of the carbon models I think the 8000 is the bike with most value for money, so I think you've done an excellent choice there. Personally I would have gone for any of the aluminium models, simply because of the price. If you plan to keep the bike for +5 years, there is plenty of time to check for bargains on bike discount or CRC for good forks if you are not happy with the Marzocchi. But generally it is normally a better deal to get the right components/bike from the start if there are several components that you are not happy with. I hope I didn't confuse you even more! 😂 //Olof
@@MTBs thank you so much for replying!! yeah all that makes sense haha, hmm might just stick with the 8000 model I'm no pro by any means so i probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. love the videos so happy i came across your channel keep up the good work!!
@@MTBs hahaha, i am from Ibi a small village 40km far of Alicante and 800m high plenty of tracks it is called the enduro cathedral you are welcome next time Olof, we are ecrazy eriders haha
Thanks for your comment! The battery dies so rarely anyway so that 1 time a year I could propel myself home well enough with 11 or even 10 gears, but I get your point.
@@MTBs for me it is the case for almost every long ride with 1000-1500 meters uphill (Shimano E8000 motor, E8010 500wt battery). And I have 34x11-36 gears, plan to swap for wider cassette
@@sergeikulichkov7748 Wow, that was big days out and long climbs! I understand that you have different needs than I do. Then 2021 Merida has got 600+ Wh and that would definitely be enough for most of my rides. But now when you're mentioning it, I actually depleted a 1000 Wh battery once... 😆
@@MTBs on my local trails 500wh is more then enough. But I live close to the Alps and there suddenly you can get the battery from 100 to 0 in couple of hours. I think some brands out here even provide you an opportunity to opt for a range extender. I would definitely consider it to be able to ride even further!
if they where clever engineers they would never have that rattle which is so annoying. This motor in the future will be known as one of the worst motors ever produced.
Seems as if it annoys some more than others. If the motor does not break down after extended use will probably affect the reputation more than the rattle in my opinion. But sure, there are other motors that are quieter when coasting.
really excellent review , very comprehensive . i especially like the subjective descriptions you give on how it feels to ride the bike . 👍
Thank you! I am trying to explain a bit more in my later reviews how it feels to ride the bike. The specs is something that everyone can find themselves.
Cheers!
Agree with your comments about gears - surely we don't need more than 10 gears on an eBike! I would definitely prefer a more robust and cheaper 10 speed system.
Well, thank you! Not that many agrees to that comment as it seems, but to us it is obvious! 😆
@@MTBs I've seen this discussed on another video, I think there are a few people that agree, but maybe we have to convince the rest! 12 speeds for a bike where the motor cuts out at 25kph is one gear for every 2kph change in speed, totally unnecessary, especially when the motor effectively makes you 3x stronger!
p.s. This bike looks amazing, but €10,000 is a LOT of money for a bike. I can buy a decent car for that kind of money!
@@karimayoubi74 Yes, it's a great bike and lots of money! The aluminium models will probably be the best sellers according to Merida themselves.
That was a great video with lots of information in it. Maybe you are not the best rider (like me), but you can summarize the caracteristics very well. Personally I am not sure about the rattle of the EP8, but I guess if you don't go for the Brose motor which seems to be very unreliable, the EP8 is still the best take.
Thank you! Just talked to a dealer that have worked with all the big motor brands. His take on it is that all motors have their issues, but the Yamaha motors just keep going. A good warranty policy is always going to be important, the motors are expensive to fix or replace.
On one ebike I have XT 11 speed with Di2 and it seems to last me about 950 miles. On my Merida E9000 I've just got 1300 miles on 12 speed XT and I have not found any issue with gear selection. I know where I live in Wales, I appreciate the lower gears on occasion. Rob Rides channel says it's his favourite group set.
Hi and thank you for your comment!
Yes, I know "everyone" says that XT is their favourite group set and it is great that it works fine for you (and Rob 😆). But when I tested against a couple of other ebikes I liked the shifting action on the SLX a bit better despite that being a "lower" spec. Perhaps I need more miles to fully appreciate the XT.
On normal MTBs, 10 and 11 speeds usually lasts longer than 12 and 13 speed cassettes (and chains). Since there is more torque through the drivetrain on a eMTB I assume 10 or 11 speed cassettes would last even longer.
Cheers!
Great video! Just subscribed.
I’m thinking of buying the 700 model because of my budget.
I hope i can see your comparison with the lower versions like the 700
Thank you! If I will get my hands on a 700 i will give it a try. I only had access to the carbon models. Anyways, the best-seller will probably be the 700. On paper it seems to have good enough components and it's good value for money for being a Merida.
10 gears are enough!
Mérida are the best value e-bikes in Australia.
Great review and video! Really enjoyed the comparison
Thank you very much! Yes, it always good to have a couple of bikes for back-to-back testing.
Works just like it's supposed to 😊
Great review! Thx🤙🏼
Thank you! Love the name of your channel! 🤣👍
All steel Deore 10sp on my ebike. Makes sense to me too!
Finally someone that agrees! :)
@@MTBs No need for mega range cassettes with E power, strength and simplicity for ebike drivetrains!! 👍
@@davidhudson8960 That was my thought too. I tried Altus 7-speed once on an eBike (low specced group set) and was very surprised how well it shifted.
Great informative review. Many thanks
Thank you! 😀
I recently did a climbing test between that bike and an Orbea Rise, if you are interested.
Cheers!
Awesome review really helps me! Just stuck on if I spend that extra money on the 9000 because I want that suspension but I just don’t know If I can spend that much. Currently pre ordered the 8000 model but this is the last week I have the chance to upgrade the pre order. What should I do have any opinions for me! Going to be an investment for the next min 5-6 years thanks
Thanks Corin!
Note that I am in no way an expert, I am only a happy amateur who is fortunate enough to test fun and expensive bikes. BUT in my opinion the fork is what is most important to consider. I have not tested the Marzocchi, but it seems to have got good reviews from other testers. It is almost impossible to give someone advice without back-to-back testing the two forks.
Of the carbon models I think the 8000 is the bike with most value for money, so I think you've done an excellent choice there. Personally I would have gone for any of the aluminium models, simply because of the price.
If you plan to keep the bike for +5 years, there is plenty of time to check for bargains on bike discount or CRC for good forks if you are not happy with the Marzocchi. But generally it is normally a better deal to get the right components/bike from the start if there are several components that you are not happy with.
I hope I didn't confuse you even more! 😂
//Olof
@@MTBs thank you so much for replying!! yeah all that makes sense haha, hmm might just stick with the 8000 model I'm no pro by any means so i probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. love the videos so happy i came across your channel keep up the good work!!
@@MrCarpenter11 I think you would be happy either way. Good luck!
Tks for review, Regards from Alicante
Ah, missing my Alicante! 😍
@@MTBs hahaha, i am from Ibi a small village 40km far of Alicante and 800m high plenty of tracks it is called the enduro cathedral you are welcome next time Olof, we are ecrazy eriders haha
@@CIANOCRILATOR Ibi? Not far from Fenasosa Bike Park? I have been there, scary rocks!!! Rented a Mondraker. Fun place!
Nice review :-)
Thanks a bunch! 😁
Great review!
Cheers, mate! 😀
great review.
Cheers mate!
more gears/gear range are important when your battery dies
Thanks for your comment! The battery dies so rarely anyway so that 1 time a year I could propel myself home well enough with 11 or even 10 gears, but I get your point.
@@MTBs for me it is the case for almost every long ride with 1000-1500 meters uphill (Shimano E8000 motor, E8010 500wt battery). And I have 34x11-36 gears, plan to swap for wider cassette
@@sergeikulichkov7748 Wow, that was big days out and long climbs! I understand that you have different needs than I do. Then 2021 Merida has got 600+ Wh and that would definitely be enough for most of my rides. But now when you're mentioning it, I actually depleted a 1000 Wh battery once... 😆
@@MTBs on my local trails 500wh is more then enough. But I live close to the Alps and there suddenly you can get the battery from 100 to 0 in couple of hours. I think some brands out here even provide you an opportunity to opt for a range extender. I would definitely consider it to be able to ride even further!
You should have loaded the bike into the car on camera. Then we would have seen the struggles ;-)
🤣 Good call!
It wasn't too bad though. Off with the front wheel and load the bike on to a piece of cardboard and then slide it in.
lol at 7:20 onwards
Yeah, Wilmer is a really good rider now competing in the Swedish Enduro Cup. But the Merida beats the XC bike big time on a rougher trail, of course.
9.600 Euro????? Carbon, but 24 Kg??? Gaga! I own a Haibike sduro rx, full xt, with aftermarked 750 Batterie, and it cost less than 3.000 NEW!!
Yes, the eone-sixty is a full-on heavy hitter, but it comes at a price. Your bike seems like a steal at 3000€! 😀
@@MTBs was 5 years ago.
But ... yamaha tuned 750 aftermarked abd build wheels. 3.000 euro.
21 kg but hardtail.
But full xt fox 750 battery!
@@gooldii1 comparing a basic hardtail to an enduro full suspension bike. Ok then...
@@ozPanzer yess
@@gooldii1 Not too bright then are you?
if they where clever engineers they would never have that rattle which is so annoying. This motor in the future will be known as one of the worst motors ever produced.
Seems as if it annoys some more than others. If the motor does not break down after extended use will probably affect the reputation more than the rattle in my opinion. But sure, there are other motors that are quieter when coasting.