The Truth About Frankie | Hollyoaks
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2024
- What happened to Frankie years ago has been revealed...
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Bravo to those young actors. I bet that was so uncomfortable and challenging for them to perform. My heart one for Frankie !
This storyline is gonna be uncomfortable to watch but i'm glad that a soap is actually tackling something as serious as this.
Siva287 OA don’t get me wrong it was hard to watch for me too but this does show good awareness for reality, especially for Teenagers.
@ChelseyLinden it's a shame it'll be forgotten about with no lasting impact on the characters once this 'issue-based storyline' is 'finished. In real life, storylines don't finish. Hollyoaks' greatest failing
@@davidostrowski679ye that is true but you don’t expect just one storyline to go over and over the problem with soaps is they kinda do the same thing just in different ways and different characters but I get what your coming from
Yeah
It's sibling sexual abuse so of course it's going to be uncomfortable to watch but people need to know
This is going to be traumatic for a lot of people. Please remember someone is going through this and suffering in silence. I want to tell you that you're not alone. Reach out to a trusted person. Don't suffer in silence like many do. There is help out there.
I knew there was something weird about how JJ was reacting to Frankie and Lucas.
What is it with Suzanne's sons and being attracted to their sisters? First Rhys and Beth, now JJ and Frankie. 💀
@@user-be6nu2cj7eThat doesn’t even make any sense. Just because her kids s’ad each other doesn’t mean she was. Some people shouldn’t comment on such serious things. Please, pick up a book.
Rhys didn’t know that Beth was his sister though
@@Calaveraqueen24not at first he thought they were cousins but they still carried on even knowing they were siblings
@@Calaveraqueen24 They eventually did find out though and then later tried to run away together. That's how Beth died. They stole Gilly's camper van and took off together. Rhys wasn't looking where he was driving, they collided with a lorry and Beth died in the crash.
My god that last scene was so uncomfortable to watch, they way it was directed so atmospheric and tense ! My heart breaks for Frankie 😢
Hoping the others start notificing the signs soon and start investigating
But do u think she will tell the truth or lie again. Because I think she is going to lie and blame it on Jack which didn't do it while he was asleep
@@Maleeha487 I think she be too frightened to say anything, given jj will be over her shoulder
This makes my heart break for her. It seem it's easier for her to blame Jack because she's afraid of JJ, and is just too traumatised. JJ needs to be caught and Jack needs his name cleared.
This one is very dark and uncomfortable. I can only imagine how difficult it must be for her to process what he did to her... he's her brother. No wonder she suppressed it.
I can only imagine how devastating it will be for everyone when she reveals it.
She's going to have a very difficult journey ahead of her. Because she needs to understand that JJ abused her, that what they did wasn't just a game, and it's going to be a big challenge to make people believe her.
Ninoj A very big challenge indeed.
I dont understand though why would she accuse jack while deep down she knows it's actually jj
Is she not fully aware of what's going on ?v
@@martinmorles1 I'm wondering if Jack holding Frankie caused her to have a flashback to what JJ did to her when she was younger and maybe she even got confused and thought Jack was going to do the same thing.
@@martinmorles1 I don't know. I think she suppressed what happened to her. When Frank went dancing with her, it triggered her and she probably transferred to Frank what JJ did to her. And in this ep the memories came back. I think that's it, because she was treating JJ normally.
Explains so much now.
So Jack innocently placed his hand on the same area of Frankie’s back that JJ used to do before sliding his hand down further, so it transported Frankie back to when JJ was doing it, hence she freaked out.
Poor Frankie. It's terrible enough to be sa'd, but by your own sibling? Plus, it's awful how a lot of abusers will make out like it's a "game" and giving it a name - JJ called it "School Discos." When Frankie said they stopped "playing" years ago, it makes me wonder how old they were when JJ started abusing her.
Also, statistics state that in most cases of s*xual abuse, it's usually by someone you know.
He’s been doing it since they were extremely young the producers have revealed. And they planned this storyline out before they took over from the previous one, they just didn’t know which characters to tell the storyline via until someone remembered Darren has got two other children who are teenagers. That’s why they’ve brought them back all grown up for this storyline!
Suzanne thinks her former boyfriend who also happened to be Frankie’s dance teacher did something to her, but Frankie kept telling her mom “it wasn’t him” and he ended up walking out on Suzanne when she asked him about it. Darren called Suzanne out because she was more concerned about the fact that she “wasn’t getting her leg over then finding out what was going on with their daughter”
(I have no clue what “getting your leg over” means I’ve never heard of it before until Darren said it to Suzanne! But whatever it means it seems like he was correct because that’s all she was bothered about and she left Frankie to do whatever she wanted and she just fawned all over JJ!)
JJ can’t do no wrong in Suzanne’s eyes, it’s Frankie that causes nothing but issues! So I can’t see Suzanne believing the truth about what JJ’s been doing when it comes out! She’ll say it’s all Frankie’s fault.
@user-fp5vf9qh3i Oh, OK. So, for a very long time, then. Poor Frankie. And, yes, it's very clear that JJ is the golden boy who can do no wrong, and is very good at keeping up this nice guy act, when in reality, he's anything but. I thought that he was just being overprotective of Frankie (due to her being his sister) when it came to Lucas, but now all us viewers can now see it's for very different reasons. Also, "getting your leg over" is a euphemism for s3x.
Oh, OK. So it's been going on for quite a while, then. And, yes, it's very clear that JJ is seen as the golden child who can do no wrong, when in actual fact, it's all an act. When Frankie was dancing in her room, it seemed to be implied that it was Suzanne's previous partner, but now we can see the abuser was hidden in plain sight, (like they are, a lot of the time).
At first, it just seemed like JJ was being overprotective of Frankie (as siblings tend to be) when it came to Lucas, but now it's very clear that it's for very different reasons.
And, despite all this, not once has Jack blamed Frankie for her behaviour as he can definitely see that something is amiss.
Also, "getting your leg over" is a euphemism for s*x.
@GerudoGirl97 I'm thinking that frankie and jack are going to become really close and she ends up telling jack everything
@@GerudoGirl97 Yes ever since they started school just after their first school disco. Question is, is who showed a child that’s around five/six years old that type of material and where he learned it from is the big question? It’s been confirmed by the actor and actress who plays the twins along with the producers of the show that when the SA started. I’m guessing that it’s either one of the moms many boyfriends she’s had that showed JJ that type of stuff, he either came across it himself probably from one of the moms boyfriends collections or he was probably SA himself by said boyfriend the mom had at the time and JJ doesn’t realize it’s wrong and that’s why he started doing it to his sister.
And you’re right regarding him being the golden child but he messes up next week because he doesn’t realize that Nancy has been sleeping in Frankie’s room at night and she catches him coming into her bedroom in the middle of the night and Frankie does something accidentally to Morgan which causes her to end up in hospital and Oscar is the one that gets into trouble for what happens. Nancy has been sleeping in her room on one condition that Morgan doesn’t wake up in the night and Frankie does something to make sure she doesn’t after Nancy tells her that she got woken up by JJ coming into her room. It’s a genuine mistake she makes and feels guilty about it when Morgan gets rushed to the emergency room. She wants to tell the truth but JJ gets to Nancy and their father first and covers for his sister before she can tell the truth, which is why Oscar takes the blame which he denies and doesn’t understand why or what’s going on.
I’ve got a feeling that either Nancy or Freddie are going to be the ones who works out what’s going on because both are now starting to notice and question things regarding the twins especially Frankie’s behavior towards her brother. Nancy apparently rips into JJ for sneaking into Frankie’s room when everybody else is asleep in the house. We’ve not got long left until the truth starts coming out.
And thanks for telling me what “getting your leg over” means. It’s a bit of a strange saying but saying that I’ve never heard of half the stuff that you Brits come out with to describe certain things, so I really appreciate you telling me. X
i was really traumatised disturbed and upset watching this scene last night no one deserves to be sa'ed!!!😢😢😭😭jj should get whats coming to him!!!😑😑😑
Rose My thoughts exactly about JJ getting what’s coming to him. Also if I may ask. How did this traumatise you?????
JJ should be arrested and frankie should be safed
@@ChelseyLinden why are you always asking people such personal and inappropriate questions? I’ve heard stories about you and what you’ve done to other people on here, especially singled out a mother and her kids who you asked personal questions and then used that information against her and her whole family. And people don’t want to comment on here anymore because of you.
JJ is a freakshow and a weirdo throughout the programme. I can't beat poor Jack got accused for sexual assault towards Frankie. JJ needs to get his comeuppance and face the consequences of his actions.
You can tell with the way JJ acts that he's a narcissist and I can see he uses that "game" to have some sort of domination over Frankie. It is truly heartbreaking. 😢
Really hoping that others start notificing the signs like him constantly on their necks every time they try to talk to her hopefully raises their suspensions.
I agree with you
@@martinmorles1I hope in a turnaround of events, Jack is the one who finds out or is the person she ends up telling (eg she breaks down in front of him or something). Jack deserves some justice, he did nothing bad, was so wrong of pearl to dump him for it
You'd like to think that this is all fictional but things like this actually happen in real life. I knew that JJ was some sort of creep the minute I saw him. I hope he's found out.
Me too
This story is gonna be so uncomfortable to watch very bold of them to tackle the consequences of bad role models to this level. As in the absence of Darren wouldn't be surprised if an abusive bf of Suzanne indirectly influenced jj and no one noticed
The guilt and shock they will all feel
Such a heartbreaking scene 💔💔
Summer OA tell me about it. 😢😢😢😢😢
that scene at the end was extremely distressing and was very uncomfortable viewing, This storyline is very dark, I understand that Hollyoaks is raising awareness on a topic that doesn't get discussed much.....still very dark though
This is so dark- I was NOT expecting that, but I had an idea JJ had something to do with what was wrong with Frankie...
It's definitely the last scene to show his dark scene
I’m SHOCKED this is how the storyline has turned. This is going to be a dark twisted one and I’m interested to see how it will end for that disgusting JJ
I can see this storyline getting a lot of complaints, it's really disturbing and uncomfortable.I know people really go through this hopefully it brings awareness and helps someone.
Omg this is just so dark 😔
George Mills OA tell me about it it’s so sad.
I figured that it was JJ when she got mad at Lucas' teasing and ran off crying.
😭🫂
This was so uncomfortable to watch, i feel so sorry for her
This is so dark even for hollyoaks
Charlie Davidson OA but it’s still a good awareness.
JJ has the potential to be the next great pure evil villain in hollyoaks
Luke Halliwell OA he needs to be punished for what he did to her and Frankie and Jack need justice. What do you think????? 🤔
you’re right. but i’m interested what evil things he will do next
@@lukehalliwell816 OA who knows Luke?????
@@ChelseyLinden Let's hope he stays away from Oscar
@@kehindeomolaoye8020 OA and Charlie and Morgan.
This was heartbreaking
Jessie Swaby OA indeed it was for me and scary. 😢
I wonder how the actors react when they were told about this storyline.
Dwayne Curtis OA probably weren’t up for this idea but I guess they had no other choice. 😢
I assume they came in knowing this, they would usually have the first few months of storylines planned out and make sure that you're in the metal space to do it. They wouldn't give them "no choice", they'd have cast different actors.@@ChelseyLinden
I'm sure the actors who plays JJ and Frankie were told about this story when they were hired and not just surprise them with it
@@knownaschloe OA probably.
They knew before getting the roles. The new producers have had this storyline in their minds before they even started working on the show, they just didn’t know which characters to do the storyline with until someone remembered that Darren had two other children who are now teenagers. That’s why they’ve been brought back as grown up teenagers for this storyline. So they we both told right from the start and clearly agreed to do the storyline, which needs telling because this happens and is happening all over a lot more than people think. It’s called “incestreal SA” and it doesn’t just happen between siblings but other members of the family. One member who’s fully 🩸 related SA one or more members of the same fully 🩸 related family members against their will usually in the same household all living under the same roof.
7:27 How big is that house, everyone has a room to themselves and only one person working
It’s a former B&B and it’s got over ten bedrooms.
And the worst thing is that he stole what she loves doing; dancing. I really hope Frankie can be strong enough to tell someone. Lucas, Jack or Darren. Anyone, she needs someone on her side...
That was physically painful to watch, this is very dark even for Hollyoaks
Is everyone forgetting Sienna was convinced she was meant to be with her twin brother lol??? Even after she found out they were twins. This isn’t weird for hollyoaks. Hollyoaks has done weirder for a decade lol
I remember that, she chained Dodger to a radiator
Nice one Darren. I'm glad you are sticking up for your dad as Jack is innocent and he didn't do nothing wrong.
Evidently you don't know about double negatives.
@@koma-ho5yq It's social media not a exam you 🔔🔚 lol 😂😂😂
@@thomaswinn6201Good for you because if it were, you'd fail.
@@koma-ho5yq Grow up saddo 😂
@@thomaswinn6201Back at ya, Karen.
8:42 that was dark, sick and very disturbing. JJ needs to be caught and locked up what he has done to Frankie.
My thoughts exactly Thomas
Yep he dose
so her brother used to do this as a prelude to abuse and as a result she assumed Jack was going to do the same when he tried dancing with her is that it? or am I missing something?
Got it in one!
I hope this storyline don't drag on, she needs tell someone.
Now i understand why she did to jack.
This Is So Heartbreaking And Sick
I Hope Frankie Figures Out What Her Brother Is Doing Is Wrong And Twisted
i wonder how Darren gonna react when he finds out what jj been doing to frankie
This is going to be super uncomfortable to watch I feel, however I like the fact they are doing this type of storyline as things like this do unfortunately happen with siblings and it’s disgusting. I’m glad they are bringing attention to these sort of situations. If this is unfortunately going on with someone, then hopefully people can see the signs and speak up!
They did really well with this, I've watched a lot of stuff and nothing usually really disturbs me but this storyline left me feeling so uncomfortable when I watched it yesterday
damn that's Dark JJ is sick. i love that Hollyoak's always put out story lines that are out of the box.
Wow! Hollyoaks did it again because I was not expecting this storyline. A serious issue that probably happens more often than we week. Hopefully, this storyline helps someone.
I'm pretty sure this is Hollyoaks darkest story yet
I wasn’t expecting that poor Frankie 😢I hope JJ gets caught
Gosh this is soo uncomfortable to watch, I knew there was something disturbing about JJ🙈. Hopefully Frankie opens up soon & have her granddad Jack name cleared..
I wasn't expecting that tonight I thought it was going be flash backs that made me feel angry upset and sick all at once
I have a feeling Lucas will be the first one to put 2 and 2 together about JJ ☹
Why does Leah look like Esther so much now she’s older?? 😂😂😂 She’s a double of her 😂😂😂
I actually think she looks alot like her late mother Amy i always thought that Esther looked alot like her Aunt Steph
I'm so out of the loop that I just figured out that JJ is the brother 😮😮😮
I couldn't stand Frankie after what she did to Jack, but after seeing this..........this is messed up!
OH NO NO NO what is this?
I knew somthing was up with JJ but didn't think it was this
Nebbynetwork2089 WD you should of seen the end ,that was so disgusting!🤮
Well believe it cause it happened again Dan.
@@ChelseyLinden you supposed to clean your kitchen room
The thing is when she finally tells someone they won’t believe her because of the jack thing
Poor Frankie. JJ is so disgusting but it’s a storyline that is very important because it’s often close relatives who commit this kind of sexual abuse.
I’m not surprised they’re bringing back the incest storyline between siblings what is the commentary it does happen and it needs to be tells even today because it still happens now in 2024
bethany murray OA what was the first incest storyline in Hollyoaks btw???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@ChelseyLinden
Sienna Blake and Dodger Savage
@@ChelseyLinden there was also an incest storyline from brokeside in 1996 but I think that’s what led the downfall of the show.
@@cia8355 OA that’s what I thought.
@@Celticgamer89 OA ouch.
It's even worse that they are twins, they shared a womb toghther 🤮
Right?! Like how does that even happen in the first place? My heart was pounding for Frankie
I knew he had something to do with her
Poor Frankie!😢 Well done Hollyoaks as this horrifying subject is not discussed enough.
By the end JJ ain’t gone stay around once the truths out either he getting help for this cruel behavior or jail , also with Lucas I have a feeling JJ gone find out his secret and use it for his advantage, this is gone get major ugly and I see a lot of people gone get hurt
which season is this?
I know for a fact that if Jack, Darren and Nancy found out they would all fully believe Frankie in a heartbeat but Suzanne wouldn't because JJ is her golden boy and Frankie is the troublemaker. I wouldn't be surprised if Suzanne either knew or had suspicions about JJ but turned a blind eye cus she only cares about her golden boy becoming a famous footballer.
I wonder if Hannah knew and that's why she took them to meet their dad Darren so he could fix it
@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486 Maybe. I have a feeling she suspected something because look at how she reacted to Carter. She knows how bad and manipulative and dangerous people can be but why take both twins and not Frankie if she knew? If she knew the full truth she would just take Frankie to Darren and Nancy to keep her safe away from JJ.
@@lucypreece7581 I'm thinking if she suspected somethingaybe JJ manipulated Frankie or even Hannah into going. I'm pretty sure soon enough we'll know what Hannah knew. Because by the start of it their mom Suzanne was not so much around and if Hannah suspects something she probably would think it was one of her mom's boyfriends because JJ probably told a lie. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to make everybody think that it was somebody else's doing and not his. He sure has acted like that
Y@@a.l.y.a.m.e.d486
I felt sick watching that end scene, am I the only one who didn’t see it was jj until it was announced I thought it was her mum ex or something .
It's a heartbreaking storyline
That is just sick poor girl no wonder she is messed up
I was really sad and then I’m sorry but the ending outro but caught me off guard
suddenly everything makes sense.
Ok this is Dark even for Hollyoaks i just hope JJ gets caught sooner or later.
Hopefully Frankie will wake up and as soon as possible apologise to jack for falsely accusing him of touching her when it was her brother all along
It's not about Jack, what's more important is that Frankie can heal and JJ gets some form of reckoning.
So sad. How has anyone not realised?
😮 was not expecting that!!! Poor Frankie
Frankie near breaking point jj is relishing all the up set its causing
Can't believe its JJ the one touching Frankie up just shooked. JJ need to be stopped. Be good Frankie open up to Warren. Warren to scare him to death that be good storyline
Uncomfortable to watch, unrecognised form of abuse that's not talked about enough, superb acting by both of these super talented teenagers in question, vulnerable Frankie, and manipulative JJ, both should be given awards for best actors and actresses, or JJ as best villain, can't remember their real names
Where are Charlie, Oscar, and Morgan? According to the Hollyoaks pages for Oscar and Morgan on Fandom, it says "Last Appearance: [Date]" for both, which usually means that's when a character temporarily or permanently exits the soap.
They were both on the show yesterday! They haven’t left! They can only have so many people in one scene at certain points because they’ve still got some of the C 19 restrictions in place because it’s not fully gone away yet. So no both the actors haven’t left the show, it’s likely they had reached the maximum number of people they can have on the set of their onscreen home, and that’s why they wasn’t in this scene. They both had to make an excuse to go upstairs when Suzanne and the twins got home and Frankie went to her bedroom when it was announced Jack was moving back home!
Oh and Nancy left to go and pick Morgan up from Kindergarten after Darren announced to the twins that Jack was coming home to live.
I thought this was set in Liverpool, not Alabama!
I think that Frankie is a victim to JJ JJ as a villain in this scene she is covering for him why can't Dan Osbourne see the eyes of Frankie telling him is not jack it's really my brother JJ doing this can't Frankie just open up about JJ and apologise to Jack
Through the many, many years I have watched Hollyoaks, this storyline is the probably the darkest/traumatic I've seen. I praise Hollyoaks for a taboo subject that isn't talked about enough and also cannot praise the actors playing Frankie and JJ enough. That last scene... No words.
I understand the dad is innocent, but to completely shut the girl down instead of asking questions is actually not good parenting. The dad is innocent, but she did in fact felt violated because it was a similar sensation to when she actually is violated. These things don’t come from nowhere, they should have asked her questions and comforted her.
Wow! That explains everything, and here's me thinking it's all Darren's fault🤔🙄😒
About time a soap does this storyline as a lot of it has happened to siblings! People are to afraid to admit that it happens or it’s happened to them, trust hollyoaks to be the braver soap to actually do this! Don’t get me wrong I love the other soaps but hollyoaks just go out of the comfort zones
And now I feel sick
Very uncomfortable storyline to watch. JJ is really creepy and frankie is seriously weird. Suzanne is useless she cant see what's going on in front of her eyes. Storyline needs to end now it's a massive turn off
jj is sick in the head his treating his sister like she his girlfriend
The thing is that you wouldn't even do that to your own girlfriend
if that he did to his own i would disgusted to find out what do to his girlfriend if he had one
That poor girl.
😮omg jj? What the heck is he doing to his sister 😮😢
It´s really great acting the way he has both the desperation to be given affirmation and cravings for love while also embodying a menacing, demonic character
OA also seeing JJ controlling and wanting power over his Twin Sister reminded me of this quote. 😔 “People who want power will always try to control those who truly possess it.”
Why does ste's children both have different accent, one sounds posh and one sounds common
That what struck me about the original Mcqueen sibiling it was Realisitic that they did not all look as Jacqui and Mercedes shared the same dad Tina was mixed Race Carmel John-Paul and Michela were meant to have the same dad it later turned out that John-Paul dad was a man called Iain that transition to a woman called Sally they had all meant to have grown up in the same house they should of had the same accents
This plus the Rose storyline is a step too far. I know Brookside did it in the 90s but it was a character-driven story with actual long term impact on characters. This is Hollyoaks and its 'issue-based' stories which last a few weeks before a reset button. It's a wonder if the scriptwriters actually studied the basics of storytelling
This isn't too far, these things actually happen. I know someone who experienced COCSA and it's important to cover these topics. Kids watch hollyoaks and seeing stuff like this is helpful to recognize its wrong.
I'm aware these things happen and absolutely these topics should be covered, but my point was Hollyoaks' tendency to bring up these storylines for views like a CZcamsr then the whole thing being forgotten a few months later. Guaranteed the JJ character won't last long once it's been revealed and the Frankie actress will probably move on after a 12 month contract which I guess is the nature of employment for young actors but it would be great if Frankie and JJ became long term characters with depth and actual impact from stories like this. That's why Hollyoaks is dropping to 3 days per week and will undoubtedly disappear after the 30th anniversary.
Wow such an uncomfortable watch but also a very important storyline. Aren’t they currently supposed to be 13? So devastating to think that this happened when frankie was so young.
There something creep is about Frankie brother
This is horrible, JJ needs to be locked up
Justice for jack !!
It's never about sex it's about power & control. Absolutely sick
Jj gonna be playing for prison fc
It's clear that channel 4 haven't forgotten about the Nat and Georgia incest storyline from Brookside!!
You'd think that sort of thing wouldn't be allowed on TV today but🤷🤷
Only this time NOT CONSENSUAL!!
Ashley Buckley it was actually really sad that Jimmy Corkhill actor Dean Sullivan sadly died last year. Actress Alex Fletcher who plays Diane Hutchinson was previously Jacqui Dixon in Brookside and I remember when Matt Musgrove left Brookside and went straight to Hollyoaks. Michael Starke who played Sinbad in Brookside is now playing a taxi 🚕🚖 driver named Benny in Hollyoaks. I reckon if Phil Redmond ever brought back brookside they should give it the same slot Hollyoaks previously occupied on Channel 4.
Frankies hair is gorgeous
Take it from me that people in real life is watching this right and that they may not want their children as actors for the program of hollyoaks
This storyline is disturbing, hoping its not dragged on for long ..
Darren has no idea of JJ sexually abuse on Frankie
Hollyoaks have done some pretty gruesome storylines in the past but this is just sick.
8:24 wow I was so uncomfortable in this scene