How to build a home studio - Episode 1: The floating floor
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- After the long wait, it is here - the first part of "How to build a home studio". It was one mega-project of epic proportions. But we made it, and we made it well!
The motivation we had to make this video was because both my partner Shay Ofer and I felt that there are not enough good video sources online that clearly demonstrate the building process of a home studio. There are many guides, from blog posts and articles to professional books, on how to build studios, but we didn't find any videos that show the complete process, from the beginning to the end, especially for people who look for affordable home or project studio solutions. Obviously, every studio is different, because every room is different and every musician has his or her own individual needs, and we do not pretend to present a complete guide or to cover all of them. Nevertheless, my hope is that this documentary will give you a clearer idea of the process and just how much you can do within reasonable means and some basic building skills, if that is what you aim for.
Unfortunately, the tragic consequences of the death Shay during the time when we were working on the project (more about it in this episode), have left me alone in this challenge for some time, but I was fortunate enough to be able to finish the project with the help of some kind people who are also highly skilled and very talented in what they do.
This series of videos, and the studio itself, are therefore dedicated in memory of Shay Ofer, a colleague, a friend and a great loss to the music community.
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So what's in Episode 1? We are covering the most essential element, the foundation over which everything else will be built - the floating floor. It's called like that, because as we will also see in the coming episodes, the idea is to minimize any direct surface contact with the actual floor, or the external walls. This is essential for soundproofing the room-within-a-room from the floor's end - and that is why we isolate the wooden floor frame from the actual floor with layers or rubber / neoprene, which are relatively hard yet provide a good degree of isolation at the same time. Inside the frame, we are placing rather thick pieces of rockwool (10cm in this case), and we then cover the frame with supporting metal bars and plywood plates. We then get a firm, solid and sound-proof base on which we can later construct the walls frame, the ceiling and the room's panels.
I hope you will find this video useful for your own project. If you have any questions feel free to leave comments or contact me on my website www.yuvalron.co... . The best questions will also be quoted in the next episode.
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I watched hundreds of DIY home studio videos on CZcams and this one is exactly the most useful one.
So sorry for your loss. R.I.P.
Shay still lives on to help others in 2016! :)
Thanks a lot for the video!
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That's so sweet that you paid tribute to your late friend. RIP Shay.
Homerecording enthusiasts and studio people never die... the just bring their projects in another dimension. Thank you for this video!
condolences for the team but this is truly inspiration after watching this and how not to let someone's idea go away very nice guys
Sorry for your loss. It was really nice of you to remember him during this video.
Video was nice. Really like the music too. Very sorry for your loss.
Bro you're the only person on all of CZcams that has a legit studio tutorial thanks soooo much
Sorry for you loss Yuval. Hope the studio brings you many great memories of Shay
I just discovered your channel and I've been deeply touched by the story of your loss. It's very touching to see the tribute through this video.
Thank you for this video! I too echo the sentiments of many and feel sorry for your loss. Shay looked like a great guy and good friend. Getting back to the video, I loved the commentary in between recapping each phase the warnings annotated in the video and the pictures over time showing how everything was fitted together. I am looking to build my home studio in the basement and don't know where to begin...
Thank you for your kind words. You begin right here with this video series. :)
Sorry for your loss man ! All the love I can get to you from the World Rock Family !!! Cheers to his memory !
so sorry to hear about your friend :(
and thanks very much for putting this video up, learned alot
Very informative and straightforward. Will be watching the rest.
RIP Shay, sorry for your loss.
My condolences to you. Thanks to you and Shay for making these videos! I'm about to embark on my own studio build and these videos are very informative and clear and helpful. Thank you so much for making them :)
Great video, and sorry for your the loss of your friend. Thanks for sharing tips and tricks!
It's so sad that your good friend passed away... Good job and keep rock and rolling bro.
This is so sad when you watch your friend talk about it and then you realize that he's got. I'm so sorry man, may his soul rock this place
Sad about the loss.
I think this is great but I do have a few concerns/questions/tips as a builder.
1) I am confused as to why you didn't just frame the floor 16" on center for adequate support instead of using metal that will stick up a 1/4" above 2x framing members by the time you calculate metal and screw.
2) The OSB ( not plywood) is not breaking on supports which over time will be an issue.
3) A vapor barrier is an absolute must when building a wood structure over concrete
4) a gap of 1/4" between the wall and plywood/OSB is also absolutely necessary to account for expansion and contraction of the wood or it WILL buckle.
Once again, I think this is great. I am not trying to criticize but these are important points.
BTW, great guitar skills
Hi Mark, thank you for your comment and for the professional remarks. I am not sure I understand all your questions (also because I am not well versed in all the technical construction terms in the US) but i'll try to answer to the best of my ability:
1. The metal bars are meant to support and prevent bending or breaking of the OSB boards. It's just an extra measure of protection, nothing more nothing less.
2. See 1.
3. If you mean a material that prevents steam and mould congestion I have done this using an anti-fungal paint on the walls before building the inner room.
4. Yes, this is either way the case and we have actually about 4-5 cm from the outside walls and even more on the ceiling. It's part of the room within a room concept that prevents sound from propagating though the walls as you'll see in part 2.
Thanks again :)
This woman is a joke - who keeps posting the same nonsensical comment on videos about studio construction and sound proofing in general. Sound proofing curtains are one of the "worst ideas" if you are setting up a home studio.
I stated getting itchy watching you put in that floor insulation. Awesome Video!
Omg I watched the other videos first and I'm now watching this one, wow
Rest in peace, Shay.
sorry for your loss...thanks for the video!
Great video, I've seen a lot of 'how to' videos on soundproofing, but this is the best. RIP Shae.
Great video .....Thank you very much. Sorry for your loss !!
Very sad, such a great loss, may he R.I.P. Nice Video
My condolences for your loss and he had to be one cool guy. Anyone who can handle rockwool with his barehands is a special guy r.i.p GOOD GUY. Dope music.
First off.. Rest Easy Shay..!! Secondly I love this video, thanks.!
A good friend got a glimpse of Woody Hyezmar’s Woodworking Bible. Downloading it this week to see what all the hype is about.
EXCELLENT. Thank you for sharing this with the rest of us
I am so sorry for your Loss... Thanks so much for sharing this video!
Made with detail and humour, thx for sharing!
Hello and שלום!
First of all, I'm sorry for your loss. Shay seems like a really cool guy and the story is just tragic. It's nice that you could still finish the project after all.
Secondly, the video is excellent, detailed, informative and fun. I'm looking forward to watch the next videos. I'm really happy that someone is pedantic and thorough both in building the construction AND in creating the how-to video.
Keep up and good luck! And thanks for the videos!
I was very impressed with your video. So sad to hear of your friends passing . i am looking forward to the continuing episodes great job your friend would want you to move forward !!!! Thanks for all the great info, keep up the good work!!!
Lovely fun video to watch and learn from. Really sorry for the loss of your comrade.
Just watching you guys handle rockwool bare handed makes my hands itch 😂 great job on the floor! Hope it did its job!
I never noticed the first time I watched this, but you have the Off The Ranch song playing.
Hey, thanks for the tutorial. It was descriptive, yet precise. I appreciate it!
MAD PROPS!!!!! WOW! amazing work! And the rooms looks great too!
Cool video. So sorry for your loss!
liked the video! feel sorry for your loss Ron! thanks for the video.
Sorry for your loss, great job on the studio guys!
So Sorry for the loss of your friend Really loved the video.
Sorry to hear about your dear friend... really enjoyed the video very informative thanks!
Saddened about your friend - my belated condolences to those who loved him.
People are, in part, what they do. So, he's part of your studio ... and he lives on in there.
Sorry for your loss seems like a great guy .
Rip shay, thank you for your contribution 👍🏾
Great video, thanks for sharing all this. Peace.
exact tutorial what i am waiting for...........thank u buddies
My condolations for your Friend:/
Thanks a lot! This serie of Video‘s is exaxctly waht i‘m looked for:) At the moment where he said „spanplatte“ was so funny because i speak german too. ^^
Yeahhhhhh without protective gloves.. rock'n'roll man!!!!!
My hands itch just watching that!
Hallo what a great job, this is a very good video. Im going to make a drumstudio in the basement. End RIP for ure good friend, he thit a great job.
Cool Video man.
I wonne see more of this video's
Sorry for the loss. #RIP
p.s. Sorry for my English
+Cross Production thank you. part 2 is already released.
Yuval Ron yea I know. But when is part 3 coming out??
+Cross Production soon!
+Yuval Ron Cool looking forward to it ;P
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I am really interested in how you stuck the walls and ceiling together with the floor. Basically the rest of the build. can't wait to see the rest. good job buddy this video is an excellent example of how to build a home studio and really answered a lot of questions that I had. Really sorry to hear about your friend.
+dabbidefault thanks so much. I am working on the next episode which should be coming in the next few weeks and address those questions, as well as for the challenge we had with the inner door.
+Yuval Ron Still waiting, lol
+Evaleen E02 is ready and coming out this week!
That's good! I'm looking forward to it.
+Yuval Ron awesome!!!
Nice Yuval :)
Amazing guide and very good tips+
Great videos!......Very sorry for the loss of your friend. : (
In coming up with for a partition with a very high stc price in mind, decoupling ought to be of prime concern, even additional therefore than insulation, sound damping glues, or perhaps further mass. Decoupling is best with double stud/joists, tho' resilient channel or sound isolation clips w/ hat channel work to an adequate degree in several things.
A very touching video. Well done!
Great video !!!
Wow man, I'm so sorry about your loss.
Hmm if you used 2x6 or 4x6 there was no need to strengthen the floor, introducing the metal changed the reverberation frequency of the floor to a higher frequency, meaning that now instead of only having the bass reverberating within the wood, you now have high frequency reverberating into the metal.
Thanks a lot for the video. Was very helpful. Thanks
hey friend very good video , hello from Lima- Peru , my condolences , so sad ...
Only real men handle rock wool with their bare hands! Rip buddy
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love the video brother, condolences to u guys for Shay
Props for an actual studio build.
Just found your videos mate and I am truly sorry for your loss of a great friend, cant imagine how hard that was for you RIP. This has inspired me to build my own room within a room which will be used more for rehearsing than recording. However I will build to spec in case we decide to record anything. I am hoping you or any of your subscribers could give me some advice? This room will be built inside my large garage which has a a 200 mm thick concrete floor. The room will be 2.4 metres high 2,4 wide and 3.6 long. I was thinking of not having a floating floor, as I have access to large 20 mm thick rubber conveyor belting from the mine I work at. I was thinking of laying this straight onto the concrete and then building the room on top of that, with the frames glued to the rubber to seal it. Good or bad idea? My apologies if this seems like a stupid idea. I live in Perth Australia so because our summers feel like the sun is actually your neighbor, air conditioning is a must but I have already got that worked out from another couple of great videos I have seen on recording studios. Any advice would be really appreciated cheers mate
Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad this inspires you to do your own project. As for the floor idea, I don't know, to me it sounds risky to base the whole room foundation on glue. So I would not do it. Re AC yes it is done in pro studios using a long curvy venting tunnel, usually on the ceiling, to break as much sound as possible. Good luck! Would love to see the results.
When people build these rooms we need decible readings and in particular the lower frequencies that penetrat and carry compared to easily blocked higher ranges.A meter reading woukd be great help.Very sorry for the loss of your friend.
Looks amazing!
thanks friend. appreciate the efforts and very helpful tips. RIP
Sad to hear that about your friend brother the studio looks and sounds great!
Very helpful video, thank you.
It´s funny how you say "we did this and we did that" and all we see of you in the video was your foot!!!!! hahahahahaha!! Great work man!!! Congrats!! Marco from Uruguay
Thank you for the video friend :)
sorry for your friend. great video. keep your head up!
nice video guys!
you have good ideas to build a home studio.I want to build a home studio for music and voiceover in my new home, in my old house I got too many complaints from neighbors of noise nuisance
Good work..Plz upload another episode..hurry
R.I.P BUDDY. MUCH LOVE ❤ AND RESPECT 🙏🙏
Sorry for your loss brother.
Really enjoyed the audio sample , do you have a video of the full song ?
So sorry for your loss.
Lovely...
Would have been nice to know the reasoning for 3 layers of foam before the rockwool. Also, mentioning the purpose of resilient track added to the wood prior to adding the plywood to help absorb sound between the plywood and the floor frame. The video however was good and informative with a how to visual.
The rubber layers are meant to isolate the hard wood of the floor frame from the external floor. The metal bars are for preventing the plywood which is a rather flexible material from sinking in over time.
@@YuvalRon Thank you sir.
Sorry for your loss (belatedly). Really sad watching the bit I came for (floor) knowing he soon passed away.
Sorry about ur freind Shay .. god bless his soul ... RIP .. let us pray for him ..
Is a floating floor necessary if the room is in the basement on concrete floor? Since concrete by itself is very dense, would that suffice to prevent most of the vibrations from transferring from the floor? I'm limited in ceiling height so elevating the floor will make the ceiling (which by itself will need to be doubled) too low. I'm thinking maybe only going to with a "floating podium" for the drumkit (as the bass drums vibrations is probably what's going to be the hardest to soundproof), so this way the room won't feel cramped. Might need to do a similar "podium" for the bass guitar amp as well. Would that work?
The floating floor is necessary. A room within a room must cover all surfaces of the outside room in order to prevent sound from travelling through the solid surfaces into the walls. A concrete floor while being a good isolator may still be conducting sound waves to the outside walls. Also in this design, the walls frame is built upon the floating floor as foundation. That said, you might want to test the level of isolation of the room before soundproofing and see if you're happy with the given concrete isolation as it is.
Hi, I have a question about the first step that you realised. What kind of rubber is it? Because I saw that there is two differents ways to do that for exemple with litte pieces of plastic that you put under the wood piece... What is the difference and wich technique would you use?
Thank you for your answer and great Job!!
Thanks. We used this product www.bauhaus.info/baufolien/bautenschutzmatte-/p/20696179 I don't know if you can find exactly that but really anything of this sort i.e hard rubber / neoprene mats should do the job. There was no plastic, just that. Simply cut it with a saw and place it on the floor.
Thank you very much ! I start it this week. Sorry for your friend...
sorry to hear about your friend :/ good video man
Cool vid! Thanks!
touching to hear of your loss buddy,, as with experience,,you just never know,, ..
not sure why you strengthened floor joists ,, cus they are held together with boards and got no place to move anyhow.
I am soon to be building music room and will be creating ramp outside of room for disabled access which in turn gets rid of the step also..
nice job..
Thank you. The metal bars are just an extra safety precaution. Since heavy gear like a studio desk or guitar amp can apply great pressure at certain points, the board might bend after some time. This way it is less likely to.
Awesome that you considered disabled access!
respectfully... I see what you mean,, your absolutely right buddy,, I didn't account for the weight of any gear,food for thought when it comes to starting my project then..cheers
I hope to getting round to watching your other vids at a later date..
Sorry for your loss
Did you screw the wooden floor frame down or is it just sitting on top of the neoprene? Stupid question i know but just double checking
+TYFHO There are NO stupid questions. We did not screw the floor to the external floor. The idea is to create a room within a room, with minimal contact between them, hence the isolating layers. Same applies to the walls and ceiling as shown in next episodes. In fact, the only exception we made to this was the inner door (ep. 2) since we couldn't just rely on the inner walls to hold it.
Very useful, I'm so sad now though. :( :( :( :(
Sorry for your loss, mate. :(
Quick question, in such a small room, wouldn't have been better to put MLV instead of foam? I mean, between the floor/wall and wood frames. You could have saved like 3cm, and I think the sound absorption (specially in low frequencies) would be better, don't you think? By the way, nice videos, and congrats for your home studio! :)
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I wonder if u have no neighbors above can you just make a thin wood roof or similar wont worsen the overall soundproof?
What was your final dB & vibration results? I freelance as a studio designer and technically you do NOT have a "floating " anything.
If it works for you GREAT but floating actually mean the inner room does NOT touch the original room and it is just being held by acoustical rooms on the top of the booth. at the beginning of this process you should be able to move the inner room like a swing.
once that has been accomplished , you tie other acoustic hooks to the original floor and the isolated room. ALL cabling holding the perimeter of the inner room should just touch the acoustic hooks (expensive babies)
When the inner room is isolated from floor or walls touching the old ones , Then you have a floating room. In this video your floor is flat against the existing floor hence you do not have a floating room. But if your leaking dBa at 40 hz has been cut down by 80% your solution worked but it is not a floating room.
And my sincere condolences for your body remember ONLY THE GOOD DIE YOUNG!
its good,thank you
Hey! Really great video thanks. Taking on this project in a week. One question - did you bolt the floating floor into the concrete underneath? Like through the wood and rubber into the concrete. Thanks!
Hi, thank you! No, the floating floor was not bolted to the floor underneath.
How much did the whole build cost you approximately? Without the gear. Just the wood, frames, sound proofing and treatment.
Tools and materials around €3500.
Hello, do you know what are the minimal features in the computer to do a multitrack recording, type of processor, RAM, hard disk etc; talking about of drum, guitars, bass, keyboards and vocals, in order to avoid clips while editing audio , I will use the Adobe Audition; Thank you!