The Crazy Eights Incident and the Pumpy Thing: Citation Needed 8x05
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2018
- I realise we never actually define "pumpy thing" in this video. I'm not going to define it here either.
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I don't know if that anorak-zipping gesture will translate outside the UK, but then a lot of the jokes won't translate outside the UK...
How did you post a comment 4 weeks ago on a video uploaded seconds ago?!
Time Traveler confirmed.
@@user-if1em8zx7i published vs uploaded
cuz trainspotters wear anoraks
@@RyanLynch1 Nice try. But I know all about cover ups.
Time traveller even more confirmed.
@@user-if1em8zx7i Goddamn it tell me you are joking.
At no point did Gary do his impression of a goose being hit by a train. There goes fifteen minutes and thirty four seconds of my life.
He may have and it was cut
Tragedy
It was at the fifteen minute and thirty fifth second mark
It was at 16:35
@@Ratigan2that would be even more of a travesty
Tom: "It went for 2 hours at somewhere around 50 miles an hour."
Matt: "Whoa! That's nearly 100 miles!"
Tom: _counts on fingers_ "Yes!" _ding_
In the real-life incident, the train only traveled 66 miles at an average speed of 30 MPH
BuckeyeNationRailroader aw
@@BuckeyeNationRailroader not according to the Wikipedia article
The most worrying part, Tom put up three fingers
@@johnkeefer8760 Yes, according to the Wikipedia article. It literally says so. What the hell are you talking about?
"America is big." [Citation needed]
That's the short form of Yamamoto's objection to Japan's Pearl Harbor attack plan, actually.
7:47 for reference
America is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to America.
For Americans, 100 years is a long time. For the British, 100 miles is a long way.
@@woodrobin the less short version is that "America is big and there's a lot of guns"
9:48 "the police tried to do something-" "SHOOT IT" "yes."
That is one of the most american things ever.
“Because it’s America and the police!”
as Gary Brannan said, "Take THAT, the colonies!"
Train: runs away
Police: (open fire) STOP RESISTING!!!
This joke continues to age like wine
It was also utterly pointless: "Police also shot at an emergency fuel cutoff switch, which had no effect because the button must be pressed for several seconds before the engine is starved of fuel and shuts down."
and the phrase "not cos it scared, cos it naughty" is so much car boys energy
69th like
new format idea: Matt Grey describes Things., the rest try to guess what hes talking about
I'm in hysterics just picturing that! Thanks for the extra dose of laughter!
Old comment, but multiply this by three and you get two of these people are lying.
*Gray
‘It was terrible, it was amazing’, is my new favourite phrase.
It was wild, I don't know what else to say.
describes speed, too. but not speed 2
Awards: best spy, (controversially) worst spy .
everyone I know who has seen that movie described it the same way lmao
Thanks, I hate it.
I remember my grandmother frantically calling to warn my family about this train, as if it was going to leap from the tracks and plow through the residential suburbs of the state capital. Bless.
I think I saw that cartoon
Wow, crazy that Chris predicted EXACTLY what Gary's line was, such that when Gary said it, it wasn't funny anymore!
The 'pumpy thing' for those who actually need it defined, is a railway handcar, the kind of thing you'll often see in cartoons and movies where one or two operators will make it move by operating the pump in the middle. They were phased out long ago by electric variants, but many are still preserved today.
There is no "pump" driving a handcar, but there is a "crank."
and gas ones
Nah we just use pickup trucks that have train wheels that get lowered down
I can't believe there was another train-based episode without goose on a train from Brannan.
"tom scott has locomotive tourettes "
it's in the bonus material, check the end of this video! well, but it's not a goose, it's an alien
@@James-zs3vm send 50 quid to me and I will punch him repeatedly.
Anyone have the timestamp/episode of it?
@@TomDufall oh hai
Matt: answers several questions before they are even asked
Tom: Gary wins
Does Tom look like something who keeps track of the points? 😂
@@ThePixel1983 tom is not mark zuckerberg
he is a living being, we talked about that allready
Can we just get a series of: "Matt Gray explains the World" or something?
Just "Matt Gray explains".
I was imagining him explaining how to put IKEA furniture together, but now I see that was far too narrow a subject.
Unstoppable "It was terrible- it was amazing"
you may want to check the book Thing Explainer by Randall Munroe
We need that.
"A retirement home is not a museum of people"
I beg to differ.
it’s called a morgue
It depends on whether they sell tickets to the general public so that the aforementioned general public can come and ogle the inmates of the retirement home.
@@BertGrink that sounds so American, just so the poor people could afford a retirement home
@@BertGrink there are public museums that are free to access =P
though i would argue that graveyards are museums of people (also possibly retirement homes)
You can hear after that an audience member saying "Well..."
Museums should sell t-shirts that say “Museums: Retirement Homes for Objects” on them.
or vise versa
Retirement homes: Museums for people
@@tomkenning5482 THEY ARE
@@tomkenning5482 I'm concerned about how the Mutter factors in
MISTER APPLE DFTBA
The best part is the but about the gun, that specific fuel cutoff switch needed to be pressed and held down for a few seconds to activate. So shooting it wouldn't have worked anyways.
Iirc they also mistook the fuel filler cap for the switch since it's a big red button-ish thing on the fuel tank. Either way, the whole plan was a bit stupid.
“They’ve got quite a bit of america too” 😂 epic
3:01 there is not a city of Stanton, PA but there is a city of Scranton, PA which happens to contain one of america’s largest railroad museums called Steamtown.
Hey Tom, I've got one for you at the end:
Today you get to attend the correct Orville and Wilbur pencil ceremony: It's the right Wright write rite.
"There's the door. Leave!!"
*Points at window in 20. Floor*
Fun fact: You can just listen to this and still get the full enjoyment out of it.
I've been replaying a string of these through my wireless headphones for half the evening, as an ersatz podcast, and it's true for nearly all of them. The mime of Churchill being jacked up in 6x01 is a little confusing, but I rewound that for something with the screen on and got it then.
It's just the youtube version of Reverse Trivia Podcast after all, but none the worse for it.
And on BBC3, Matt Grey, describing things.
working title: Men describing badly
and ill be following up with your reaction!
I’d watch that
That's what they could do on BBC Three!
The chat on Hump Shunting Yards reminded me of a conversation I had with my an associate (who shall remain anonymous) years ago.
On rail journey, we passed an engineering wagon with *NOT TO BE HUMP SHUNTED* stenciled on it.
My associate, reading this, jokingly said "Well, that's no fun, I want to Hump" fairly loudly.
Before realizing what exactly they'd just said.
They might live that down eventually.
"You have been a very naughty engine. You have caused confusion and delay."
Matt should have won; all the genuine mechanical knowledge, and the fact that he'd seen the film based on the events?
Just for clarify the introduction to any non-UK residents, ITV is our TV network that is not the BBC.
the bbc is government-sponsored and itv is not right?
@@aeriumsoft BBC is payed for my the License payer (people but a TV license for about £150 per year) and it has to be impartial and no advertising is allowed. The Government is not allowed to control anything on the BBC.
@@aeriumsoft If the BBC gets an equal number of complaints from the left and the right they reckon they're doing the right thing.
@@miscellaneous.7127 ah i get it
And then Channel 4 is our TV network that isn't the BBC or ITV. And then there's Channel 5 and assorted post-digital channels to round out the free-to-air, and then the various subscription options (most prominently, Sky)
the traaaaainMASTER!
Yes.
Good
Very good
Underrated even after an year D:
Halt!
As someone who's seen Unstoppable, I'm amazed that some of that movie actually happened. Great episode, and I can't wait for more!
But ... in watching the movie ... it does state that it’s based on real events and at the end before the credits it walks through what happened to the people involved ...
@@MS-ic3rd Usually thats taken with a large grain of salt when they say that, it's just absurd that the move was so damn close to reality.
Temporal Driver .... ok snarky comments get snarky replies.... let’s compare a “run away train” event that has news articles and recorded “live footage” and compare it to “stories” of hauntings - surprised you didn’t use Blair witch also ...
In "Macy's thanksgiving day parade" vs "Citation Needed", Citation Needed wins every time.
boring balloons vs entertaining comedy panel show
no vs yes
Old Media v. New Media, both at it's most representative.
Part of that Chris Pine movie was filmed in my hometown.
There is also a curve in Altoona, PA called Horseshoe Curve which probably inspired Devil's Curve in the film.
Joel G I live in State College, and know a few people whose families got to be extras :)
@@lawrencecalablaster568 I'm from Olean. I believe they used the track behind our middle school.
Joel G perhaps, but horseshoe curve isn’t elevated like the “devils curve” in the movie.
Plus, in real life there are significant (shorter radius of curvature) curves before and after horseshoe curve, I suspect a runaway train would derail on the curve before horseshoe curve, which itself isn’t that sharp a curve it just goes on for a long distance.
The elevated curve in the movie is an active rail line on the Wheeling & Lake Erie railway. Most of the movie was shot on that company's lines.
The UK East Coast Main Line has a nasty curve at Morpeth, which has also had it's fair share of incidents involving trains falling off and crashing into people's back gardens just under the line...!
I feel like going to the People Museum to liberate one of my elderly relatives and take them on a trip to the British Object Retirement Home.
Isn’t a people museum a cemetery?
@@onionbot2 No, a mausoleum.
@@onionbot2 I'm afraid that's called a people landfill
Isn't that a David Walliams book?
As an archivist, I would love to work with Gary Brannan. Also can you have him make an overly enthusiastic documentary/show/whatnot about Brunel. Gary talking about Brunel or Iron always makes me happy.
Imagine Gary talking about Gresley! Squee, squee, squee!
Being a train enthusiast, read nut, I knew of the story about the real train in the movie. It was thoroughly enjoyable to hear these guys work it out. Thank you Tom
They left out the most important detail. The director of the movie...Tony Scott!
True. No relation to Tom Scott...
@@gordonrichardson2972 as far as we know... DUNN DUNN DUNN
I've got this image of the Curb your Enthusiasm theme playing as the Engineer jumps off and the train runs away.
As an American, I can confirm that there aren’t any problems, that we try to solve, which don’t involve firearms.
Cat in a tree? Rusty bolt? Clogged drain? We have a caliber for each of those.
In America the general thinking is that at a big enough caliber, the problems it’s incapable of solving approaches zero. There’s nothing really corroborating that thinking but we do it anyways.
Poor tree.
Excuse me, cat **in** a tree?
@@aloysiuskurnia7643 I mean, Schrodinger's cat doesn't care, until you check you can't say if he's inside it or not!
@@aloysiuskurnia7643 Cat is in a wooden box, that box used to be a tree, cat is in a tree
CSX 8888 was actually rebuilt as an SD40-3 (From SD40-2) and is now in service as 4389.
"It was terrible, it was amazing"
-Matt Gray
Eira It was the best of movies, it was the worst of movies.
I have been watching this during my daily commute.. In the train.
And boy did I have trouble to not burst out in laughter.
“What's a hump yard?”
“It's where you shunt without connecting.”
So not fair that Tom gave a point for 100 miles and none for "America is big"!
10:25
"Unsuccessfuly shot at"
Nah, they very successfully managed to shoot at the train. It didn't amount to much, but the shots definitely landed.
...is this the most delayed Brunel reference we've had in a season?
_Furiously smelting_
14:07 in answer to “a retirement home is not a museum of people” someone very clearly (and somewhat worryingly!) in the audience just goes “Well…” :p
0:45 you called?
Was waiting for someone to ask if it was the gang from Kill Bill Vol. 1, the Crazy 88's
My mind went straight there too!
The slipped-in mention of the normal brake being useless to stop the train after killing the power because it was burned out actually puts me in mind of a certain old Thomas episode...
14:18 "rebuilt as part of a regular rebuild process" does sound like brainwashing in room 101
We're going to take all your organs and forcibly transplant them into a dozen other people... then use your skeletal remains as the basis for building a completely different person.
(...as it might be put in a horrific reboot of Thomas the Tank Engine)
@@markpenrice6253 thank you for the nightmare fuel.
Given current events in Ohio, this appearing on my recommendations now is darkly ironic..
It’s weird to watch British people talking about a CSX incident
Tom Scott/Technical Difficulties talks about the Crazy Eights Incident that happened on the CSX Railroad with a SD-40 Engine, uses an image of a Chicago & Northwestern Dash-8 in thumbnail image.
Gricers in the UK would be chuffed at this ignorance.
Bit like in the Two of these People are Lying episode about the Green Monster, where the engine being referred to is a Stirling Single but the thumbnail is the Flying Scotsman, a train that was built about 50 years later. *Shakes head in disappointment*
fun fact: it doesn't matter all that much
Csx always is having some derailment or other accident
They are one of the best railroads
@@patmeaden not even a little bit
Patrick Meaden try again
They have increased the speed they transport freight
that's why i trust bnsf.
Let's give an extra round of applause to the fly-ish thingy(?) sitting on Tom's cam.
“Ideally Me, but alright, I’ll sell the rights” 😆 great line!
Me in Ohio: Oh, CSX, it's a train incident!
Pulls up article: Ah, now, see that projected path eventually takes it less than 1000 feet from my house. :|
Oh my
"At no point is this Thomas and the train will stop for not having a driver." Gary, what is your syntax.
14:20 Not quite. It was renumbered to number 4389, and some parts were replaced, but I would still call it the same locomotive.
Note: It was built as Conrail number 6410 in 1977, then acquired by CSX and renumbered to 8888, before being rebuilt and renumbered to 4389.
ITV2's Thats My Trout: An Extra Slice
_Get Out,_ That's My Trout
we both know itv2 would just call it An Extra Trout, mark
I know this is way late and stuff, but the description of dynamic brakes was completely wrong.
A dynamic break is where they connect the motors on the wheels to a giant resistor bank, thus turning the wheel motor into generators, and using the back EMF from them, to cause the engine to slow the train.
That makes more sense, thanks
Alternatively, because the motors have been turned into generators, the resulting electricity can be put back into the grid (for electric trains anyway) instead of being burned off
@@CynicalPlatapus With electric trains, that's exactly what they do.
@@diamaunt2782 not always, if the grid is at capacity then it's burned off, and for dc powered trains such as on the London underground it's almost always burned off because it's easier than converting it back to dc
I had to keep pausing the episode because I couldn't stop laughing. Really going to miss Citation Needed, but as long as you keep doing more games with the TechDif crew, I'll be happy : )
(I have in fact listened to your whole back-catalogue of Podcasts, and seen the experimental games on the Matt and Tom channel, all great stuff!)
Not to be confused with the Crazy Eighty-Eight Incident.
Nicely played
Got some good memories from that game. I did get in trouble with a german court house though
And the crazy one-eighty eight, where one person with a chipmunk avatar made a variety of great youtube poops.
Shoutouts to CS188.
This is probably my favorite show on CZcams. Great stuff. Please never stop making these.
I would be glued to the screen if there ever existed a travel program with you 4. You are all great! Binge watching all these episodes
Hey I watched half that movie one night. I realized this after watching 14 minutes of this 15 minute long video 😅
I love Tom just going "Here we go," and facepalming.
Do a video about the leaning Tower of Pisa not leaning so much anymore.
Curious about how they did it
I'm guessing here, but I would assume they built scaffolding, pushed it upwards slowly, and rebuilt the foundation.
The best yet, really entertaining - chemistry is spot on as usual. Thoroughly enjoyed this episode in particular, well done lads 👍
Ha! I knew what this was about before I watched the video! Finally a topic in my sort-of area of expertise (and after watching Unstoppable a multitude of times).
Railfans, unite!
As a rail enthusiast, I am ecstatic to see them do a video about trains. Also, did anybody realise his name is Thomas?…
I LITERALLY CANNOT WAIT EVERY WEEK FOR THESE EPISODES. I LOVE THIS SERIES. GREAT JOB!!
I am just sad they are stopping them after this season.
*Tom Scott confirms Despacito 5*
... and then deletes it
Awsomiihill ..... then posts it on liveleak
@Schekeljager owo
... and then sells it to Elon Musk
... who shoots it into space
Soul Asylum - Runaway Train
Played in my mind whole time watching this.
I'm going to miss citation needed once the season is over. Can't wait to see what you guys do next.
Trains actually do, well at least did, have tires.
The outer ring of the wheel on a steam engine’s driver was replaceable. They’d disconnect it from the driving gear, heat it, and the whole ring would just pop off.
They don't anymore the whole wheel is a single piece of steel
Nillie Nope, solid steel hoops that went around the wheel.
Yup I was thinking exactly that
Best of the new series so far. Excellent guys!
+Tom Scott I've watched Unstoppable. The train in the movie (instead of being CSX 888) was AWVR 777, carrying a toxic chemical substance used in the manufacture of solvents and adhesives. As soon as it was said that it had a movie made about it, I instantly thought of Unstoppable.
this was fun to watch ! please make more
This show is always the best part of my day
If I zip my anor up just a bit- is the most Gary thing I've ever heard
Im loving this series! You're a great game show host!
This is what I’m thankful for!
11:50 "BEHOLD! THE TRAIN MASTER!"
Really liking the witty banter, and the fact your panel have to guess their way through your knowledge minefield of facts!
Why is this series so wholesome
8:57
Gary: get one of those little carts
Tom: here we go
I'm glad that it was 20 years ago. Airlines learned to never reuse scavenged parts. Eastern flight 401 landed in the Everglades. There were fatalities; but a lot of the parts were reused. Eastern had to later track down and remove those parts. Every plane with them were getting visits from the deceased flight crew of Flight 401. Mentour Pilot YT channel has done Halloween episodes about it.
"runaway train shot at by the police" If that isn't a totally American thing then nothing is.
It is interesting that this was your article considering what happened in Western Australia recently with trains
A retirement home is definitely a museum of people
splendidly awesome, and bloody hilarious! :D
Idk if you already know this but the pumpy thing Gary was referring to is a Hand pumped cart
Terrific work as always chaps
I'll be expecting that book sometime in the coming weeks
Tom: "What's the practical solution for runaway train?"
Gary: "Get one of those little carts..."
Tom: "Here we go..." _Chris laughs in the background_
I love how they just know when Gary has one of his crazy ideas.
Anyone else still waiting for Gary to make that second film?
Please never stop making these.
This is the final season.
Gary's movie idea could be made, probably in the same spirit of all those sharknado movies.
I think I managed to say the "K-pop crop top" line in sync with Tom there
I can't believe I actually knew that much about it just because I have seen the film a few years ago, without even paying attention to it!! Wow!
Wow! Best episode ever. Thanks. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍