Mormon Missionaries SHOCKINGLY Expose Their Own Doctrine
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- God was once a human on another earth? The Father has a wife named Heavenly Mother? Was Jesus married? Will there be countless future versions of Jesus? Missionaries TELL ALL!!!
I was raised Mormon but now I'm a born again Christian praise God!
Amen, so happy for you! God bless!
I was raised Catholic but now I am a Latter Day Saint. I praise God everyday for the truth I have received.
@@MrNirom1 but you haven't, you just think you do. Those that are JW's and SDA make the exact same claim and yet, not everyone can be in "truth" following unique ideas.
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 Oh George we have had these discussions for years. You are never trying to convince me of anything. I know way too much and have had experiences that if you had what I had... you too would believe what I believe. You would not be able to deny it.
You are always talking to the other people. What you have to say to me... you are really saying to them.
@@MrNirom1 Yes, we have had these discussions for years. This makes me realize you aren't worth my time as others I have talked to either online or in person eventually get it and take on the identify of an "ex-Member". Unfortunately, you may find that opportunity too late.
You claim to "know way to much" but I can see your pride seeping through your own arrogance and realize that no, you don't. Grown men in the organization for over 40 years finally understood the many issues and were able to use their critical thinking skills. I guess some don't have that ability or skill.
What I have to say to you I have already said to them, in some cases it takes time also, but they eventually get it. This is why there are so many videos today being created by ex-Members who announce they have left, and millions are being introduced to logic, contradictions, history and critical thinking skills.
But no, I would never identify you as "someone that knows way too much". I do feel sorry for you and your family. God bless you and have mercy on you.
It is nice to see nineteen year olds who are willing to participate in such a grilling and never become confrontational or disrespectful, certainly a credit to their upbringing regardless of what it was.❤️
Grilling? Hardly
@@narrowroad62 I agree, the guy never gave them bible verses that challenged what the young men were teaching.
These boys were not “grilled”. Carolyn, do you find it confrontational when someone asks you what you believe?
The was a very informative video ... simple explanations to Mormon beliefs from a Mormon’s own mouth. It was well done
@@zmig7793 Miguel, the "grilling" was in the tone of the interviewer. This wasn't a conversation. It was a basic inquisition like you'd get at a police station. No, it wasn't overtly rude, but it wasn't friendly either. Most 19 year old would blow you off for an inquisition like this. That was the sentiment of the original comment.
@@Nepthu - I agree ... this was not a conversation, nor was it friendly, nor was it rude. The interviewer obviously knows LDS theology and he anticipated the answers from the missionaries. After 22 years of being involved with the LDS church, I know the missionaries answered every single question exactly correct and they were never challenged, nor were they ever told they were wrong.
If you feel this was a negative interview, then maybe you have a problem with LDS theology. Maybe when you hear it so plainly, from naïve 19 year old boys just sharing their faith, you see how anti-biblical and anti-Christian the LDS faith really is - Heavenly Mothers, God being a man, saved by grace after you do your part, glories of heaven, exaltation to becoming a God, marriage in heaven, etc.
I think the missionaries shared more than they were supposed to ... just stick to the script boys or the outsiders might think Mormons are weird.
I was forced to be Mormon. I am now a Christian. I can feel the holy spirit now. I love it.
Evelyn may yea God!
Evelyn may
God bless you sister!
Evelyn may praise the lord! Me too!
Amen.
So much of "religion" is contrary to the teachings of Christ.
We long to take the speck from the mormon's eye, but we can't see past the plank in our own eye.
That is because we all see Jesus "with rose-colored glasses" regardless of our religion.
The deciples spent 3 1/2 yrs. with Jesus, and they remained nearly clueless as to what His purpose on earth was, until they were "baptized with the holy spirit" . After Christ's crucifixion, they were devastated. From their skewed, and biased understanding, they felt that the opportunity for the Messiah's kingdom to unfold, had been destroyed.
Today, Christians look back and know that the deciples had "heard" the Word from the mouth of God, and yet remained blind to its meaning, until the Holy Spirit imparted divine understanding.
Sadly, Christians of all denominations today, are blind to understand that they too exist within this spiritual irony.
Truth does not depend upon religion; there is only one source of truth: Jesus Christ, the Word of God.
Comprehension of the truth, does not come by way of religion. Comprehension is possible only through divine impartation by the Holy Spirit. It is pointless to read scripture without first prayerfully submitting to the Holy Spirit, and asking for divine guidance to lead our understanding. This is contrary to the will of man in general, thus, it happens only sporadically at best, regardless of what a pastor, holy man, priest, or religious organization may claim.
True "religion" involves only the Seeker and the Lord. Our choices here on earth during this lifetime are of only two entities; God and ourselves.
Placing our trust in the "wisdom of man" has been such a powerful tool exploited by satan, since the first sin in the garden. Jesus taught us that His people are destroyed by a lack of knowledge. Again, there is only one source of Truth in this world, and that is Jesus Christ. The only hope of pleasing God the Father is to submit to His perfect Will, and one can only hope for this result through the divine guidance of the Holy Spirit.
I don't say this for the purpose of disuading anyone from attending the church of their choice. Rather, I simply share my own experience of honestly and completely submitting to the Holy Spirit, and the effect this has had on my understanding of scripture and the Will of God on my own life.
In heaven, we will see souls from many worldly denominations who have been saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. The simple truth of the matter is that it is the blood of Jesus only, that saves, regardless of who we are, where we are, or how we are. My advice, if one were to ask for it, is for all to sincerely repent to God, in full acknowledgement of our imperfect and sinful nature, and to profess with our lips that Jesus is Lord, and to fully submit to His perfect Will, and to humbly ask the Holy Spirit to lead us in our spiritual growth and understanding. I try to do this every day of my life; not as a ritual, but in loving reverence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Anybody is free to do this, regardless of what church they are in.
Wow that’s some funky doctrine! I’ve been studying the Bible for 30 years and I still just can’t understand how a Mormon can read through the Bible several times and not see how they are not in serious error.
I know right. I was a Mormon many years ago and had a head full of their false doctrine. My beliefs were polluted.
It was only through really studying the bible, like really digging in, praying, studying, questioning etc that I slowly began to weed out all the Mormon doctrine.
You see the biggest problem with Mormons is that they gravitate towards the book of Mormon more so than the bible.
They don't really study the bible, they reference bible scriptures but only to back up their beliefs in Mormonism.
thats sad because Satan has blinded the eyes of them that do not believe. Without a willing heart there's nothing God can do.
Exactly. The Wicked Book of Mormon and the other false Mormon books are in grave contradiction to God's True Word which is the Holy Bible.
@@KnowingGod What? Where did you learn that? That is a serious doctrinal error. Salvation is not contingent upon man's willing heart (we are dead in sin), but upon God's grace.
Because their theory about the Tree of k'owledge is better
Every Mormon I have ever heard seems to be trying to convince themselves while they have tried to convince me.
This !!!
I know many LDS. They seem like they are well adjusted and at peace with their convictions. This guy sounds like he accepts money for declaring gospel principles. So I guess he has a lot to lose.
@@markskipper2199 That's interesting...do you know how wealthy the LDS church is?
I was born and raised Catholic. While in catechism and in 7th grade... I can remember being taught about the "Trinity" by the good sisters. I can remember being told... this is false. That was the Holy Ghost speaking to me. And I did not believe that doctrine at all.
And what do you know... while in the Army in Germany in 1977 I ran into the LDS Missionaries. And oh how glad I was that they informed me that the doctrine of the Trinity was false... and I told them that I already knew that. And the more they taught me... the more the Holy Ghost testified of the truth that they spoke. And I have not looked back. The Church teaches truth that the rest of Christianity has no idea about.
@@highinfovoter8909 The Church should be wealthy. Temples are not built for free. Chapels are not built for free. Electricity is not Free. Water is not free. Our church is a worldwide church... not just one on some corner in a town. Our local Bishop's and their counselors are not paid one red cent for their services in running their congregations. They hold down a regular job to support their family. Nothing is collected from the members to pay for them.
I was an LDS missionary for two years and dropped Mormonism a few years ago after learning the real history of the Mormon church. These two young men are trained half-truthers.
Wow man, awesome testimony! What points of Mormon history did you learn about that you would share with me?
and you're a fucking idiot
You made a mistake, you have knowledge, to teach others. Chase were, youre parent's LDS?
@@getdownto311 with language like that, you are not a Christian. Repent if your anger and hate in your heart.
Chase Rock If the history of the church was important to you then it was up to you to research it. No church I know of goes over all the details of it's history with it's members. Missionaries job is to teach doctrine, not history. These young men are very honest in their answers but being 19 their knowledge on subjects outside of what is mormon doctrine of salvation is limited.
you can’t even say they’re “exposing” themselves they are very open to teach you about these things
I haven't had LDS missionaries to my house in years, but I wanted to share something I learned. One thing I know now from listening to returned LDS missionaries speaking about their mission experience online is that it is an incredible amount of work and many of the missionaries do not always have consistent meals. Next time an LDS missionary comes to my door, I will make sure to offer them any food I have. I also learned that many people are unkind to them. Negative treatment from others outside their faith reinforces their belief that their church is true. Always be kind.
No way, rebuke them and send them packing!
"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
2 John 1:9-11 KJV
@@KingjamesAV1611 *_Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God_*
I was not aware that you were the standard by which the doctrine of Christ is set.
@@lindalds The standard is the Bible. Which I gave as my reason for rebuking them and send them packing.
Sounds like your all emotion and no scripture.
I would love to know what you think the doctrine of Christ is??
And how mormons, jws, or any other cult keeps it.
These boys right or wrong are absolute sweethearts. I think this was a great interview. They didn't sound like they were being attacked by the interviewer but they also didnt sound like they were being handled with kid gloves either. It felt like a genuine fact finding unbiased interview. Kudos for that. This interview has made me want to read up on my bible again. Job well done here
These know nothings are a joke a kid who barely started shaving is not going to tell me how to live my life.😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 And give up 10% of my hard earned income? Yeah right.
@@phixxxer11 The kids aren't telling you anything about how to live your life or how to spend your money. They are telling you about their religion and letting you decide if you want to check it out. By the way, LDS are no different than other Christian religions and tithing. The bible mentions it is a requirement, not a suggestion. The LDS church just makes it a requirement for temple access.
@@phixxxer11 Christian Faith's, Protestant and non Protestant, teach tithing. It's in the Bible. God blesses immensely, when we do! God is the creator. We give for many reasons -- all to increase Christian knowledge, and numerous ministries, helping others.
They aren't talking about the Bible, they're talking about the book of Mormon.
@@rollingthunder4599 I was once a member of the Mormon church, for 3 years. I can answer most any question you all have.
Great questions!!!! Thank you!!!! I was raised LDS and now I’m born again. Thank you Jesus!!!!!
You have gone from one delusion(Mormon) to another delusion(born again Christianity) where adherents believe in a literal Genesis creation account and a literal Biblical flood depicted as Noah's Ark which has all been debunked by academia. Also, your Jesus made without human sperm is make believe.
@@davidralphs4 I think you are confused, as science continues to prove evidence for the Biblical flood that did take place. Real science cannot debunk the creation account, and in fact we keep finding more and more proof for it every year.
You are of course welcome to site your sources, for when you declare "has all been debunked by academia" I have to ask, which academia? There are many people with fancy doctorate / PHD letters in front of their name which only means they are book smart according to what man has taught one another.
Those who read and study the Bible, and pray on what they learn, the Holy Spirit in which there is no greater teacher, opens our eyes, our minds, to true spiritual discernment and understanding.
True Christianity lives by faith, knowing our Lord Jesus Christ will be returning for us soon. Just look around at all the signs, all the evil, corruption, how vile and disconnected our lives have become over the past 5 years alone.
Our society as a whole has fallen into full rebellion against our Lord God, and when that time comes when we will all be judged before Christ, many will know how wrong they were, but it will be too late, as those who do not believe in Jesus and chose to live a live for "self" and not for God, will be forcibly removed and cast into the lake of fire.
I truly wish this wasn't going to happen, but Jesus told us, and warned us many times over during his ministry, that MANY would follow the broad road that passes through the wide gate into Hell, while only FEW would find the straight path that leads through the narrow gate that leads to eternal life.
@@davidralphs4in 2014 I was with God, while in surgery and in his perfect peace. He said surrender all. Perfect peace. Jesus is real my friend:)
The truth will set you free. John 14
Amazing that you got so many direct and non-evasive answers. A very rare interview in my opinion
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:8)
Galatians 1: 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Let's break this down.
_But though we_ ...We, meaning the apostles of Christ, including Paul.
_Or an angel from heaven_ ...Or *EVEN IF* an angel from heaven.
Angel=messenger
Heaven=God
So, even if a messenger from God
So, even if it means Moroni, he *was* an angel from heaven, or a messenger from God. And God doesn't send angels with messages that are not from Him.
_Preach any other gospel unto you_ ...If you read the second chapter of Galatians, you will see what the "other gospel" Paul was referring to and it has nothing to do with Moroni or the Book of Mormon, etc.
And what is "Gospel"? It is the good news of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor. 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Context.
@@lindalds still doing this wrong. I thought I taught you better. Looks like you are still lying, still pushing your personal interpretation and still arguing when more each month are learning and leaving.
@@sevrinvorndran351 Again, just because I don't agree with every word you say, and don't validate your deceptions about what we believe does not make me a liar.
And personally, between you,and Kinzie K and Jim and JEM7 and who ever else on here says they are Christian, but act like they do towards me and all other LDS, then I would not want to be a "Christian", not like you are.
@@lindalds others point out your lies, you aren't fooling anyone but yourself, liar.
Calling you a liar isn't an issue with being a Christian. Jesus called the Pharisees 'vipers'. If you desire, I can follow after Jesus more closely and call you that instead.
But since you are NOT a Christian, you aren't in a position to have any justification for your opinion. It would be like getting a morality judgment from someone on death row.
For someone who once told me "I don't care" sure seems to care a lot, but then again, I knew you were lying when you wrote that, liar!
@@sevrinvorndran351 *_Jesus called the Pharisees 'vipers'. If you desire, I can follow after Jesus more closely and call you that instead_*
You aren't Jesus, thank God! You can't make that kind of judgment on me. And what judgment you make on me, Jesus makes on you.
*_It would be like getting a morality judgment from someone on death row._*
Not if that person is innocent of any crime.
*_I knew you were lying when you wrote that, liar!_*
Again, everything I say is a lie.
Including that.
(I'm lying when I say I'm lying. But I can't tell the truth. So, when I lie, I am lying, even when I say I'm lying, I'm lying. Try to figure that one out.)
Elder Adams is a former class mate of mine. I love that guy and I pray for his soul
Jacob O'Neill amen pray for his souls sake and that the scales fall off his eyes
Well, that was kind of nice
*Pray to our Heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ:* “I say unto you that ye must pray always and not faint; that ye must not perform any thing unto the Lord save in the first place ye shall pray unto the Father in the name of Christ, that he will consecrate thy performance unto thee, that thy performance may be for the welfare of thy soul.”
“And I pray the Father in the name of Christ that many of us, if not all, may be saved in his kingdom at that great and last day.”
The Savior said to the ancient inhabitants of America, “Therefore ye must always pray unto the Father in my name;
“And whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is right, believing that ye shall receive, behold it shall be given unto you.
“Pray in your families unto the Father, always in my name, that your wives and your children may be blessed.”
“And the twelve did teach the multitude; and behold, they did cause that the multitude should kneel down upon the face of the earth, and should pray unto the Father in the name of Jesus.
“And the disciples did pray unto the Father also in the name of Jesus. And it came to pass that they arose and ministered unto the people.
“And when they had ministered those same words which Jesus had spoken-nothing varying from the words which Jesus had spoken-behold, they knelt again and prayed to the Father in the name of Jesus.”
“Wherefore, my beloved brethren, pray unto the Father with all the energy of heart, that ye may be filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son, Jesus Christ; that ye may become the sons of God; that when he shall appear we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is; that we may have this hope; that we may be purified even as he is pure.”
“I am mindful of you always in my prayers, continually praying unto God the Father in the name of his Holy Child, Jesus, that he, through his infinite goodness and grace, will keep you through the endurance of faith on his name to the end.”
Concerning the Book of Mormon, Moroni wrote, “And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.
“And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.”
Nephi, a Book of Mormon prophet, wrote, “And if they are not the words of Christ, judge ye-for Christ will show unto you with power and great glory that they are his words at the last day; and you and I shall stand face to face before his bar; and ye shall know that I have been commanded of him to write these things.”
These are just a few of the multitude of testimonies of Jesus Christ in the Book of Mormon. To learn more, contact the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to speak with the missionaries. They will bring you a Book of Mormon so that you can find out for yourself that the gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored. The Book of Mormon truly is a testimony of Jesus Christ and has been brought forth by the power of God in these latter days.
YOU ARE SURE ABOUT THAT ? JESUS CAME TO AMERICA? I THINK SMITH WAS ON LSD INSTEAD OF LDS
Jacob O'Neill (
I was raised Mormon. They taught me that good Mormon men become gods in the afterlife. My father said that Jesus was married to more than one woman. My great grandfather married three sisters, and my father said he was a great patriarch. But all that came of it was broken families and poverty. Only the Mormon church was true, they taught me. All the other churches had been made up by man and inspired by the devil. I knew it was wrong and said so. I was disowned for that.
Don Bagley I'm sorry that you experienced that. It is a horribly painful experience to be disowned by the people that you love.
You lost nothing but a millstone around your neck. Idk if it was sad for you or not, but you’re mentally free, and that’s a big deal. Worth the “loss”.
I am sorry that had to happen, I plan on telling the morons who visit once a week the exact same thing even though it scares me
I was born and raised in a big Mormon family. And when my brother and I started questioning the church, and found out it wasn't true we told our dad and his new wife. We were kicked out and disowned. Luckily our mom was not Mormon and we got to live with her, which was much better than before. I was only 13 and my brother was 16. It is sad how lots of Mormon family's cannot understand or except people with other beliefs.
Don Bagley all churches are wrong nowadays!!!
I admire the sincerity and genuineness of these two young missionaries in openly share and express what are the basic core beliefs that Mormonism encompasses. At the same time, I am sadden that their doctrine groundless
I would like to say that I am grateful in what you said about these elders. What I am NOT happy about is how WRONG you are about the ground we stand on. There is NOT chance and a prayer in this world that the foundation of this church "The Church of of Latter-Day Saints" will NOT or EVER fall. The people yes if the choose to NOT live accordingly to the teachings of the LORD'S Gospel but NOT His church.
@@spenceryoung1427 you seem to invest quite a bit of time to talk about this fairy tale. If you TRULY believed it is one, why do you seek out such videos, comment, and then produce a small diatribe of your personal opinion on such a matter that you have already made your own conclusion, unless, for some reason, it's vitally important to you, for some weird reason, to make sure others know your strong stance on the topic? Is there some award given that I didn't get the memo?
Flat earth is a fairy tale, but I've yet to stalk videos that share their inane logic about such a fairy tale .... what skin of my teeth is being removed that generates so much of my time to invest in explaining that so that maybe about 4 or 5 people in the entire group around the globe would possibly understand this error that I believe is wrong?
Groundless 😂😂😂
Book of Abraham ...look into it
Look into the translation of the book of Abraham
Mormon members are always so uncertain when asked about bullet points in their doctrine. I am so thankful and relieved that God saved me from this.
@Ken Zeleny I once heard a baptist preacher comment that if you get three baptist preachers together on a Bible verse, you will get five different interpretations.
@@gl9500 Well said. No Christian believes that Trump is the savior. Christians mainly align with his view on abortion.
Christianity is Satan’s deception. Just accept Jesus and everything will be okay😂
@@gl9500 How do you know the 12th one is dead....?
@@gl9500 Okay well if that's what you want to believe...What Christian denomination are you if you don't mind me asking?
We must pray for these poor and lost souls
Poor and Lost souls. Well your an idiot 😂
@@HyrumSchultz-pb3sh Don't worry, we'll pray for you too. :D
@@adamgoodword7888 Thanks friend I’ve been feeling a little prayer deprived as of lately :D
These poor young men
I thought these boys were as pure as could be. I don't know them but I love them.
They always are sooo sweet. We fed the missionaries quite a bit when we lived in California.
@@woodynorris8224 *_where in the Bible does it say Jesus had a wife?_*
Where does it say that He didn't have a wife?
@Mari Murphy Word vomit much? Woody asked where Jesus' marriage is mentioned it the Bible. You went from "Not everything is in the Bible" to "Priesthood authority" to "All things are possible with God." You talk like a politician who dances around a topic rather than supplying a simple five word answer.
Mormons are actually really nice people and I enjoy there company but if they start to teach, I shut it down
Teach them. Preach to them.
Sounds pretty close minded
@@doeyjetiege2274 you are the close minded one.
@@CrypticHowl lol how?
@@doeyjetiege2274 because Mormonism is heretical and unbiblical yet you claim that avoiding it makes you close minded. No, it's not being close minded it's called being wise.
Mormons are some of the best people you will meet. It’s sad to see so many “christians” call them names or insult them just because they don’t agree with their doctrine.
Roberto Acosta As far as I’m concerned they are Christians, people get so over worked about the specifics and forget that god loves everyone. I mean these people live more Christlike lives than much of the world, and even if you think they have some doctrine wrong, they have a lot that is right and good. I judge people by their fruits, and Members of the Mormon church are by far the most Christlike individuals I have met. And that means something. Means more to me than some “Christians” saying they are evil or devil worshippers.
@@mattruth8077 if we judge people by their fruits, then why do Mormons judge others that are not part of the LDS organization or why they judge those that leave LDS as impure, apostates or evil. I've watched countless presidents and Mormon Apostles that are critical of those that are NOT part of LDS or who have left.
Obviously not all Mormons are Christlike as we know there are many Bishops that have sexually abused children which is not very Christlike of course. Every religion has the bad fruits and the bad eggs. We can't judge an organization by the many apples, but when the entire organization is built off the foundation of a corrupt man, it seems odd to "Praise the Man" when the praise and worship should go to the one that died for our sins and gave us the free gift of salvation, Jesus Christ.
Crazy is crazy no matter how you look at it! Religions are at the top of the crazy ones!
@@mattruth8077 Mormons are not Christians. They do not believe in the Trinity. They believe Jesus was created, not the He is the Creator. They believe Jesus is Satan's brother. They believe God had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus. They also believe that it is by your works plus faith that insures your salvation, not that it is by faith alone. They are not Christians! Watch Apologia Ministries' videos. They explain the difference well.
@@truthseeker1549 *_Mormons are not Christians. They do not believe in the Trinity._*
That depends on how you define "Trinity".
*_They believe Jesus was created, not the He is the Creator._*
That's a lie. We DO believe He was the Creator.
*_They believe Jesus is Satan's brother._*
Now, explain how that works.
*_They believe God had sex with Mary to conceive Jesus._*
Another lie.
*_They also believe that it is by your works plus faith that insures your salvation, not that it is by faith alone._*
Now, explain the difference between "salvation" and "exaltation" as we believe it.
Apologia Ministries is another anti-Mormon group that will do or say anything to get you to hate and fear us.
I admire these young men for their dedication. Their theology is a nightmare
Half of this is them denying what the Bible teaches!
Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Jesus believes in the resurrection. He is talking to the Sadducees, who do NOT believe in the resurrection.
The Sadducees ask Jesus which brother would the woman be married to in the resurrection?
This tells me that they knew that Jesus DID believe in, not only the resurrection, but that marriage carried on into the resurrection.
Jesus answered that they neither marry nor are given in marriage. In Biblical times, men would marry, women were given i marriage. So, His answer is, that no one is going to GET married in the resurrection. And since the Sadducees didn't believe in the resurrection, they would marry "till death do you part". The others would marry for time and eternity.
And do not tell me my interpretation is wrong. It's no more wrong than yours is.
@@lindalds interpretation can be considered wrong if we can find evidence to back it up with the Bible.
The question raised by the Sadducee's was meant to demonstrate the absurdity of a resurrection of the dead (Matthew 22:15-28). However, this challenge was based on completely wrong assumptions about the Scriptures and the power of God (Matthew 22:29). It's been said that we often learn the most important truths by asking "dumb" questions. In this case, at least, an off-target question opens the door for correction and learning.
In short, Jesus says, there isn't any contradiction or complication, at all. Resurrected human beings will be like angels in one respect: Men will not marry, and women will not be given in marriage. Marriage, the pairing of couples for life, will cease to exist there. As eternal beings, angels do not apparently reproduce, making marriage unnecessary. Humans will apparently exist in that non-married, non-reproducing status, as well. Jesus' answer also corrects the Sadducee's' wrong idea that angels do not exist.
This gives a firm, if unexpected answer to the Sadducee's: the wife married to seven consecutive brothers on earth will not be wife to any of them in heaven. He will not stop there, however. Christ will continue to show how the Sadducee's' own preferred Scriptures make a clear case for life after death (Matthew 22:31-32).
It's important to note what Jesus does not say here, as it's often taken out of context and misquoted. Jesus does not say humans will become angels after death. Angels and humans are entirely different kinds of beings. Jesus only says people will be "like" angels, and only in this one way: not being married. Otherwise, people and angels will remain unique and distinct creations of God.
If one is not married and sealed to their spouse BEFORE the Resurrection... then it is obvious that what is stated is correct. During or after the Resurrection... there is no additional work for the dead. The time for doing such things has passed. But that is why there is a 1000 years upon this earth before the resurrection happens. For it will not happen until after the 1000 years and after Satan is loosed upon the earth again for a short period of time. All that is needed is the time between the 2nd coming and the end of the 1000 years. I am surprised you don't know this for yourselves. So temple work will continue throughout the millennium to insure that all that want these ordinances done.... they will get done. Smile!!!
Matthew 22:30 is true when you read what is actually written. The first 4 words tell you everything you need to know. FOR IN THE RESURRECTION. If you have not been sealed to your spouse or your family BEFORE the resurrection... it is too late... and you will be an angel of God because you did not want the bindings of a spouse or family. This had to be done before the resurrection happens because "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage". So that scripture the way it is written is very true.
This was in my feed for years and I’m finally watching it today. I feel like God wants me to. The reason is, is because Mormons are heavy around these parts, see them in neighborhoods on bikes, etc. but sadly no IFB churches can scratch that surface of commitment compared to them. Really genuine nice people, and would be perfect workman for Christ.
I hope you were drawn to it to realize how insane all of these beliefs are… there’s nothing crazier in what they are saying than what you believe. You just have a more watered down version. At least Mormons have a spine about blatantly silly claims to truth. If I was a “believer” I’d probably be Catholic or Mormon.
Where do you live man?
@@bn2870 Why not follow the Jesus of the Bible?
@@johnrowley310 what’s the “Jesus of the Bible” 😂😂. Which Bible? The Catholic Bible or the heretical one?
Is it “Jesus” according to John Rowley’s guidance by opening his heart to “the Holy Spirit”?
That’s why you have 40,000 denominations. Because you can’t agree on the “Jesus of the Bible”. You don’t even have the same Bible. What’s even the “Bible”?
@@bn2870 I think he meant the Messiah prophesied in the Masoretic Hebrew manuscript (Old Covenant) and revealed in the Textus Receptus Greek manuscript (New Covenant). Those manuscripts were directly translated into the English language multiple times but the most accurate translation was the authorized King James.
I liked what they had to say. They are both nice and respectful.
They are respectful and super kind .score one for the mormons lightning vibes ⚡
Satan is nice and respectful too
@@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387 Satan appears as an angel of light therefore its fitting for his ministers to appear like ministers of righteousness.
I love how he said "That would be silly" as if it was the only silly thing that was said.
I was forced to be Mormon by my parents, who still practice. It is so sad the amount of pressure to be perfect put on them by "the church" and it's members. In fact, that pressure is so great that anything horrible that happens to or surrounding member's is ignored and swept under the rug, never to be spoken about again in attempt to be seen as the perfect family. In my family these secrets included depression, anger outburst of men against women, the men treating the women as slaves and sexual abuse by other members of the church and our cousins. When you leave the church your family reminds you every time they see you that you will never make it into heaven and that you are less of a person then they. Families stay together forever and love eachother, unless a member of the family does something the church doesn't agree with. It is a sick form of manipulation. I still love my family and support them any way I can, but I believe they have been deceived and hope they will wake up one day and focus on loving each other rather than appearing perfect. They call Themselves Latter day SAINT'S, but reject their own and condemn them to hell if they don't fit the mold. Mormon's also refuse to respect the separation of church and state and lobby huge amounts of money to beurocrat's and politicians to get their way with laws in Utah and other states. Don't get me wrong, there are amazing people who are Mormon. But there are many that use it as a brain washed manipulation. And the secrets of the church itself are MANY.
Your weakness doesn't appear to be genetic. Thanks for leaving voluntarily...we would have thrown you out eventually. Always looking to lose the deadwood.
@@johnlee1352showing the true nature of Mormons. You are truly a piece of 💩💩💩. That's probably why you don't show your chicken 💩 face online.
If you ever were a Mormon...good riddance. If you never were a Mormon...stay out please. Have a great day in the wilderness.
@@johnlee1352 Wow, you are FAR from a Saint! How would you feel if your Bishop saw this is how you talk to people!?! Your God is so far BELOW Christianity’s view of him. Your religion is American made utter rubbish! We’ve all seen the Mason videos, Oh er, I mean ‘temple’ videos 😂 We know what is said and done there!! Your actually brain warped if you can’t see what utter bull shit your in!! Then there’s your OWN Churches essays ADMITTING to it’s real history - everything they once called ‘lies’!! It’s historical FACTS!! Got and look it up!! Its on your LDS website under essays!! I bet I know way more than you do about your man made ‘religion’. You all are too scared to REALLY look into the Churches/Joseph Smith real history and your too scared to really look into what you actually believe!!! Because if you did you’d see just how ridiculous it all is and how JS was a complete Charlatan! If not, then your brain is utter brain washed or your just so arrogant to believe God is so small compared to what the rest of Christianity believes. It’s evident in your ‘meetings’. You don’t even kneel to pray (or stand to pray), you just sit there. That’s how low God is to you all or how high you all see yourselves that you don’t even kneel or bow down in some kind of way.
@@johnlee1352 Fool
I think, I think, I think!! It doesn’t matter what we think!! God’s word is the complete authority!!
God's word is, as long as you are not worshipping the Bible. Many Christians do that.
You’re going to hell, Cathy. God’s word says so.
It would feel sooo weird being called elder as a teen.
It just means teacher
XxpauldadudexX: 😂🤣
illumaguppi lol teacher mean teacher. After being a teacher you become elder. It’s basically just an age tier system.
You’ll never get called elder until you’re eighteen so your basically an adult then.
But being a 17 year old "senior" is normal?
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" Gal. 1:8 - Paul (pre-64 AD)
If anyone really knows what is behind that which Paul stated... you would know that he was upset that the Galatians went and got circumcised. You see... Paul was teaching the Gentiles... while others were teaching the Jews. Paul didn't think that Gentiles had to become Jewish first... and then accept the Gospel. And when Paul left and traveled elsewhere other Jews came by and told the Galatians that they needed to be circumcised. So when Paul got back and found out they did it... he was mad. And that is when he got all worked up and said the things he said about angels. I am sure he can now see the error of his words for if an Angel did come from heaven... he would out rank any human upon the earth!!!!!!!
@@MrNirom1 your personal interpretation is not even close to what is written here borders on a massive delusion of the English language.
Just read it as is. It is so easy to understand without adding extra verbiage to force your own rendering. I would suggest a class in English reading comprehension as you don't even understand this simple verse.
Read it slowly, for example
But even if we
(Paul or the apostles)
or an angel from heaven
(any non-human being from the spiritual world)
should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you,
(that would be a gospel different from 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 or also Romans 10:9)
let him be eternally condemned
(eternally be found in the lake of fire in pain, suffering and agony forever and ever)
nothing about being circumcised at all. Don't make stuff up that isn't there, it can be viewed as trying to be dishonest or deceptive.
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 Poor you George. Go and read you bible... it is all there! And then when you find out that I am right... you will owe me an apology for you thinking I didn't know what I was talking about. Please... go read your Bible.
@@MrNirom1 I'm doing just fine, it's the Mr. _"Gaslighting"_ Nirom that has a HUGE problem as we can verify by the fact you need to come to all these videos to hopefully preserve yet another member leaving for the truth. Eternal salvation is not within your grasp because you praise a man which defiles the 1st of the 10 Commandments.
You will never be right because your cult has been easily proved to contain contradictions, errors, historical faux pax and the main character of your organization has many PR image problems when it comes to the ladies, violence, fraud and deception.
I have a Bible degree from Elim College, where did you say you got your Bible knowledge from again? Oh, silly me, that's right, from an organization that hasn't even been around that long.
@@MrNirom1 Poor George? LOL!! So much hate and anger in your words. Interesting, many atheists and other false organization give me false "warnings" also, but I have read the Bible, unlike you, and Romans 10:9 and John 3:15-16 and Ephesians 2:8-9 reveals that I have ETERNAL LIFE because of my faith in Jesus.
You have faith in an organization and a guy that had trouble with the ladies, violence, fraud and deception.
No, I'm not worried by you must be to keep responding to me and looking for videos to hopefully find ways to salvage the members that are leaving quickly.
Your gaslighting doesn't work, just shows you lack love, charity and the command of Jesus to "love your neighbor as yourself". Not a very good look for you at all.
Belief in Jesus as our Savior is the only way to get to Heaven.
Not only believe but accept Him as your Lord and Savior, Keep His commandments and live by every wordThat proceeds from the mouth of God. And indure till the end when Christ returns and sets up His Kingdom on earth for a thousand years. Which will be happening soon.
@@jamestripp8451 "soon" is a relative word as people have been saying "soon" since 1914, 1925, 1967, 1975, 1988, 2000, 2007, 2012, 2017, etc.
Although "soon" as in less than 80 years, yes, I would say that is soon when you consider Jesus was here 2000 years ago.
Which, by the way, is the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Jesus is the Christ, perfect and sinless the Son of God and died for our sins and through his atonement we are able to come to our father. Every single LDS member will agree with you.
@@firepower7654 you are confused about your own doctrine. You forgot to add that you must have OTHER requirements added to the list, although NONE of these are found in the B/M which is supposedly the "Fullness of the Gospel" but actually, that;s just another lie to stack on top of the many others.....
Other doctrines required by Mormonism is as followed (not found in the B/M remember)
--- plurality of Gods
--- following Word of Wisdom
--- believe God is an exalted man
--- require celestial marriage
--- teach that men may become Gods
--- reveal the three degrees of glory
--- works require baptism for the dead
--- believe in eternal progression
--- have the Aaronic Priesthood
--- have the Melchizedek Priesthood?
These '[other]' things are taught to all members of the Mormon organization as being requirements to get to "Celestial" Heaven.
Oddly enough, these so-called requirements are not found in the B/M anywhere at all.
Have you kept all the commandments? Are you sure you will endure to the end?@jamestripp8451
Latter Days Saints SHOCKINGLY say exactly what they mean
When I was 11.. I asked my Bishop a hypothetical question. I asked, If God the Heavenly Father chose ME to be the next Prophet here on Earth, would the LDS Church ALLOW it? He answered NO.
I asked Why Not?
He told me that I needed to be an elder member and the longest surviving member of the group of Apostles and when the vacancy for Prophet presented itself, then I would be CHOSEN to be Prophet. Who Chooses I asked - He replied God chooses. I knew then that you had to be part of the higher team within the LDS Church, live long enough and then AND ONLY THEN, would I ever be Prophet.... I was 11... and in my heart I resigned from the LDS Church and told the Bishop, I didn't believe in the LDS Church or its Prophets... I physically left three years later.
Forty years on and afterI having studied Christianity and the Cults (particularly Mormonism) throughout that time, let me say that if it is important to you.. you'll do your own work and study to discover who Jesus Christ actually is: God among us; His Work; that he delivered His Gospel once, for all - everyone; that we might be saved, he suffered on the Cross and died for our sins so that we don't have to; was raised and lives again.. Mormonism never was, never can be, and never will be Christianity or Christian....
In mormonism, Christ's work is insufficient, this is why they have built Temples which require you to do your own works and to gain access, you must be a Temple worthy Mormon: pay a full and honest tithe of 10 gross, live by temperance laws concerning coffee, tea and alcohol, pay additional monies on fast and testimony sundays, undertake ordinances and get sealed to your wife and other women throughout your life to ensure you can become a God one day, undertake baptisms for the dead as their surrogate etc. And there is so much more to do..It's all up to you and if you fall short - Jesus may pick up the difference and you may get God's grace . None of this is Christian.
In Christianity there is nothing anyone can do to earn God's free gift of a saving grace, because if you have to earn or buy it and you can't, it isn't free and it isn't grace. In Mormonism they tell you, you might earn your 'free' gift of a saving grace AFTER ALL YOU CAN DO. When do you know you have done all you can do? Could you have done more yesterday, today? Tomorrow might be too late and then you will have died guilty of all God's Laws. Being a good person, while desirable, does not save you - believing on Christ saves you.
Do you repent or continue to repent? If so, you are still dead in your sins and according to Mormonism, you MUST overcome ALL sin. To fall fowl of one law is to be guilty of it all. This is not the Good News - The Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is only by believing in Christ and having faith on Him that you will be saved. If it's important to you - you'll do something about it. Christ isn't looking for perfection whereas you may have been told otherwise. Fall away from the yoke and seek rest in your LORD. Pray as a sinner and ask Jesus Christ to forgive you and come into your life and then be patient - wait for God to work on you in his own time, in His own way. After all, it is His choice and your beginning.
Mormonism is polytheistic whereas Christianity is monotheistic.... that is faith defining and separates the two camps forever.
54v115 you know your stuff and I did not know some of these other aspects you brought up. I was never Mormon, but living near Palmyra, NY I'm around them often. I try to speak to them, but they are as stubborn as Pharaoh.
I was a mormon until I met Jesus of Nazareth!!!!
Half the stuff you typed is false information. Just like anti Mormons you add lies with some truth
Praise the Lord.
I have studied the bible my whole life and I believe these young elders did a great job. No they didn't get everything perfect but I'm proud of them. Jesus is Lord, Jesus is Savior. In a coming day I shall feel the nail marks in His hands and in His feet and shall wet his feet with my tears of but I shall not know any better then than I know now That he is Gods almighty Son our Savior and Redeemer and that Salvation comes in and through His atoning blood and in no other way. Amen
Only one God created all things but Mormons don't believe that
So powerful ❤ This should be shouted by every believer.. Amen!
You are proud of them following a false doctrine and cult religion?
How can you have studied the Bible your whole life and be proud of them spreading a false doctrine?
@@mvj1153 Agreed. Mormonism is a cult religion that is similar to a secret society. They have to sign a contract when they join. If they break that contract, their life and the lives of their families will be in dire danger.
All these Mormons commenting on here can’t see the obvious unbiblical flaws even when they’re clearly pointed out; that is called spiritual blindness.
+Frank Pichardo There are no unbiblical flaws in our doctrines. One big reason why I joined the LDS church is because of how totally Biblical it is, especially when compared with other Christian churches.
lindalds You can sit there all day saying there are no flaws, but the main flaw: You believe in a different gospel. Your whole movement crumbles under Biblical light!
*You believe in a different gospel.*
We don't have a different gospel. We have another testament of Jesus Christ.
*Your whole movement crumbles under Biblical light!*
As you understand the Bible.
lindalds We can go on forever like this, all you have to say is that you’re right, but the Bible proves otherwise. Joseph Smith was wrong, the tablets never existed, and the whole narrative makes Alice in Wonderland seem more realistic than fiction!!! I’m not being mean here, faith is just as good as the objective on which you put it.
*all you have to say is that you’re right, but the Bible proves otherwise*
Your interpretation of the Bible.
*Joseph Smith was wrong, the tablets never existed, and the whole narrative makes Alice in Wonderland seem more realistic than fiction*
Have you ever read the Book of Mormon?
There is no way that Joseph SMith could have made up that whole thing.
Ex Mo here, "born in the covenant" in '73 and yes, we were definitely taught Jesus was married and had 3 wives
Who taught you that? The Prophet? One of the apostles? Can you give me where they said this?
@@lindalds I'm sure it was BY because it was tied to Plural Marriage and three wives being significant (and Jesus is supposed to be the perfect example of all things-including plural marriage).
@@amyanderson6904 And yet... It was Jesus who forbade the Nephites from having plural wives eh??? It is so acceptable when the Lord commands it.
It's amazing what happens when you get a Mormon to actually say outloud what they believe.
Mormons and Muslims have the same problem: their entire faith is dependent on whether or not one man is a liar or not. For the Muslims, it is Muhammed. For the Mormons, it is Joseph Smith. Both men claim, while alone and with no witnesses of anything they later claim, they were visited by an angel of God (Muhammed actually thought it was the devil initially). Then, their "holy" books were written by these two men (Muhammed and Smith). So their holy encounters were without witnesses, they performed no miracles, they themselves wrote their "holy" books, and their "holy" books, amazingly, call them the greatest prophets of God. Many do not realize how Christianity is very different. Jesus did not write the NT: eyewitnesses to his teachings, miracles, death, and resurrection wrote the firsthand accounts of the NT. So the Bible is an account of Jesus claims about himself, coupled with tons of factual evidence by eyewitnesses to His glory. The Quran and Book of Mormon has none of this. Imagine how suspect Christianity would be if all we had was a book written by Jesus full of claims by Jesus about how great Jesus is, but with no evidence of confirmation from other witnesses?
Danny Beall Exactly!
Danny Beall Sorry but you’re wrong! Joseph Smith did not write the Book of Mormon. He translated a ancient language with interpreters! He only a a couple of years of school! The physical Plates of the Book of Mormon were shown by an Angel to 3 people and the were commanded to always testify that they had been shown and that it was true! So a witness from heavenly messenger! Then 8 others where the plates by Smith and allowed to handle, examine and told to always bare witness that there were indeed golden plates and they knew that they contained the word of God! Never did these witnesses recount their testimonies! New times require new ways to deal with life’s challenges! So God restored His Church and it’s lead by modern prophets and by revelation which the world needs! If people understood the gospel, they know that they don’t need to beat up on themselves because they are not perfect and allow the Atonement and the Love 💕 of Christ heal and help them!
@@thaynerasmussen2083 ... the "witnesses" of Joseph Smith were family and close friends. the LDS church teaches the Bible in its current form has been mistranslated... this is ridiculous. Jesus talks about a Hell over and over again... so why don't Mormons believe it? Jesus said "In Heaven you are neither married nor given in marriage but will be like the angels giving glory to God"... so why do Mormons believe there is endless marriage and spirit children? That is 100% against the Bible... and you can't say "it's been mistranslated" the original Greek texts, the Septuagint, still exists. Scholars read and translate it ALL THE TIME and those translations are always practically the same. The MINOR differences have to do with word use or "what did that term mean 2000 years ago?" The content doesn't change. We also still have The Didache... an ancient document written by the twelve in Jerusalem. This document explains the sacraments, how to preach, how to baptize, etc... does the LDS church also teach that this document is a lie? That's directly from the source! Very strange.
@@thaynerasmussen2083 Sorry there are "ZERO" Proof of the so called Golden Plates , Joseph Smith was a Twisted man who TWISTED Scripture for his own personal financial benefit , Please take a closer look at the so called way he "Translated" Ancient Egyptian & the "TRUTH" is in the Details , He had NO CLUE what he was reading & at the time neither did anyone else , BUT eventually the TRUTH came out & NOTHING he translated was even close , Also please ask yourself why the book of Mormon has "NO" Maps , I am not trying to be mean but PLEASE do your research on the So called Prophet Joseph Smith & if you do it with an OPEN mind the TRUTH about him is CLEAR , Read the Holy Bible and invite JESUS into your heart because his way is EASY & His way is the ONLY way , I Pray you find the TRUTH in Jesus name .
It's a good thing then that the Book of Mormon is neither written by nor about Joseph Smith. Also, there are dozens of accounts (journals, letters, stories passed down generations, etc) of Joseph performing miracles, like healing, in the name of Jesus, just like the original eyewitness Apostles. Compare this to the story of Elisha in the Old Testament where he performed miracles in the name of God and the priests of Baal could not replicate them. Joseph must have been a true prophet for this and many other reasons.
Positive answers with kindness and respect.
Mormons are nice people but they’re still lost. Pray for their souls. 🙏✝️
[1 Corinthians 1:18]
“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”
Imagine if they had read through the Bible five times, instead of the Book of Mormon
Neither of them knew what the Bible is. "Is that both the Old and New Testament?"
Hey guys let's love the Mormons here and we'll everywhere . It breaks my heart , but I have a love for them . We are to love our neighbour after all i.e. Everyone we are to love . Let's not bash them but lovingly try to bring them to the Truth . I respect their work ethics and a strong desire for Evengaalismn . I disagree with them but I have such respect and a deep love for them ❤
As long as you allow equal time, and don't presume to know what we believe. By that I mean, if we say "We don't believe that", then take our word for it, we don't believe that.
well said brother
They are going to burn in hell if they don’t repent
I've been witnessing to two Mormons for the last few weeks.
first steps of brainwashing really worked on you for you to make such a statement. look behind the facade and no sane mind would have made such a statement.
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I grew up a member. I served a mission in Japan when I was 19. I’m 43 now, married with 4 kids. I believe God the Father and his son Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith in answer to his humble prayer.
I’ve read, pondered and prayed about the Bible and Book of Mormon several times in my life and recently continue to read and pray daily. There have been times in my life that I didn’t pray and read the scriptures as much. During those times I didn’t feel the comfort and direction of the Holy Ghost as much or as often as the times I did read and pray. We all have bad days or even bad years in our lives. These missionaries are obviously having a bad day. I can’t imagine what it would have been like to be videoed, then publicly humiliated with an edited video afterwards.
I have Baptist friends, Catholic friends and Jehovah Witness friends. All people I respect. I don’t see how anyone can feel good about publicly mocking another church, or someone who is doing their best to follow Jesus Christ. I think what you have done to these two missionaries is horrible.
If you are sincerely trying to make the word a better place by straitening someone out, why don’t you take a more effective approach?
Tell us how your life is better from following the teachings of Jesus Christ and leave out belittling others’ interpretations of our Savior’s teachings.
Do all the members of the Catholic Church interpret the Master’s teaching correctly? Do all the members of the Baptist church interpret the Master’s teaching’s correctly? What about the Jehovah’s Witness and the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? Do all of them do a perfect job of explaining the Gospel of Jesus Christ? I think not. We all fall short and need God’s grace.
Missionaries leave their family and friends for two years to teach and lift those who are in need and are interested. I don’t think the interviewer fit that criteria.
@Marty McFly Preach Marty. Preach.
@Marty McFly well informed information about the many corrupt Bishops.
One Mormon, lindalds, once told me that Mormons don't commit crimes because they stop being a Mormon once they commit the crime. Of course, that is nonsense unless she said "Before they commit the crime" because once they commit the crime, they were a Mormon at the time. But if they stop being a Mormon before they commit the crime, then that's just as absurd.
But it's one of the excuses Mormons need to make to appear perfect and outside the scope of the "them" (us vs them mentality). Mormons see all non-Mormons as being outside the club/cult and therefore their Pharisee tendency kicks into overdrive and we are viewed as apostates.
Awesome post ... please continue to provide more insight as I like to read challenging questions to the Mormons that can't be answered without some mental gymnastics.
@Marty McFly trust me I know Linda very well we've been in discussion for nearly 3 years. Ive heard the lies, the stories, the made-up stuff, the childish attitude and the hate and anger that seems to get under her when called out. I've witnessed the lazy attempt to make excuses that often are so ridiculous it's as if she were a child and not a woman in her 60's. And I've seen how she responds to others who have also caught her lies and made up on-the-fly answers that can't be backed up with facts, resources or scripture.
She has admitted that the Book of Mormon is not perfect, which is one of the best things I've ever read from a Mormon. That's a good start.
@Marty McFly a study has been done that those that are hard core cult members often do have a mental issue they are dealing with. I talked to one Mormon that actually thought he was already a god on earth and was of course perfect without sin. He was so far off his rocker, it was amazing that he hadn't already been committed.
But yes, I do you are correct and sadly, that type of person will never understand anything easily presented. It would be like arguing with Rain Main as poor Tom Cruise had to endure.
Just a correction to what the Elder said, you do not have to be married in the Temple to go to the Celestial Kingdom but in order to reach full exhaltation in the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom you do.
So you have to get married and have sex to make it to the big time. Poor apostle Paul, never got his exaltation....
Grace is Grace, If you are saved by Grace, you cannot be saved by works after all you can do. If you are saved by all you can do then you are not saved by grace! We are filthy rags in our righteousness so then we are saved by Grace and not by works.
You cannot be saved by applying both, its one or the other, if you think you can be saved by your works then you will fail. Jesus knew this that is why we are saved by his Grace and not by our works!
Quick questions for thought. Can a person have true and sincere faith in Jesus Christ without following His commandments and repenting?
@@will9579 yes! Otherwise Ephesians 2:8-9 is a total lie along with Titus 3:5 and Romans 11:6
Works are pure garbage when it comes to salvation. Works are required by many of the cults today to keep everyone in line through the BITE model which helps control the sheeple that fall inline to the will of the organization.
So to answer you question, we don't need works however, if someone DID have "true and sincere" faith in Jesus, then most likely they will follow those aspects on their own anyway more out of LOVE than out of DUTY. If you love your wife, kids, parents you would feel sorry for doing wrong and follow what they asked of you out of LOVE but not based on DUTY or REQUIREMENT because you HAD to.
You question is flawed because you really asking if someone with only lip-service can be saved. If that is your question, then leave out "true and sincere" in your question, but if you want to keep that part in, then my answer stands based on the Bible alone and only the Bible as my answer.
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 "though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered. And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him." Hebrews 5:8-9
@@larrymcclain8874 and yet, JESUS IS GOD who was for all time before there was a beginning just as Heavenly Father and the Holy Spirit -- all 3 before time began. Jesus created EVERYTHING ... the universe, the earth and planets, people, plants, animals everything seen .... and everything unseen like gravity, protons, angels, Lucifer and cherubs. Everything that exists was made by Him (John 1:3, Colossians 1:16) and He is eternity.
Jesus who is GOD allowed Himself to become a man so that He can dwell with His creation that He made with His Word. Jesus is the Word (John 1:1) and He is the Bible/Scripture (John 1:14) because the Holy Spirit spoke to the men of earth and gave them the words ... which was Jesus.
The Word of God is the most powerful word written because it is all truth. There are no contradictions, nothing false and all prophecies are True and valid given long ago and each manifest exactly as it was predicted.
The book of Mormon can't validate the prophecies and it contains many contradictions even against the Bible itself but also against LDS and D&C it falls apart.
How tragic that so many continue to believe that a book with contradictions could contain any valuable truth. That is truly a sign we are in the end times as the Bible predicted that LDS would exist:
_"For the time will come when they will _*_not endure sound doctrine;_*_ but after their _*_own lusts_*_ shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall t*urn away their ears from the truth,* and shall be turned unto fables."_ -- 2 Timothy 4:3-4
You are LOST
These two young men have the spirit of God with them, they teach and believe a beautiful truth.
They are really good kids for sure, but this doesnt make the doctrine they believe in true. I dont believe in the trinity myself , and i dont want to be harsh like the so call "born-again christians" are, but intending the Bible
in differents ways is a thing, believing in new prophets and scripture is another. Anyways God see in the secret of the heart ...
@@69thetrota What if its true...
@@stevie2fu if it's true the Bible it is false and the bom not.... They cant be both true. In the bible it says that even if an angel comes to you and preach a differtent gospel , you must not embrace it. I think JS Really experienced something but it didnt come from God.
@@69thetrota They can both be true
@@stevie2fu then contradictions are a new rule of truth and cognitive dissonance is acceptable. That does not seem like the right way to go.
These kids were taken advantage of. I am not a Mormon. If the interviewer was serious about learning about this religion, he could easily have found a learned elder in the church to interview. My salutes to these kids politeness and good manners.
"We don't do that because that would be silly" Man I love that line!!
So ironic for people who believe in a Book supposedly translated by a teenager in New York from golden tablets given toi him by an ahgel called Moron -I. Nothing silly there. Temple underwear and celestial marriage, nothing silly there either.
It made me laugh because their whole concept of baptising the dead is silly!
So they can get one over on God by baptizing stand-ins for dead people, but digging up their skeletons would be silly.
They don't believe they're "getting one over on God", they believe their system is the one God authorizes.
Mormon God = Heavenly Father = Elohem. Elohem was born of another god and heavenly mother. Their god is not our god. Their Jesus is not our Jesus, their Jesus is the brother of Satan. The genealogy is specifically for baptizing the dead and populating their worlds to become gods.
Ancestry dot com is all Mormon. The human genome map was started by Mormons. Their goal is to find every human who has ever lived and baptize them. Kinda cool how their work has helped people locate their ancestors and other living family members.
Umm, we believe they still have a chance to accept the gospel and be baptized (because baptism is required for the kingdom of God) ONLY IF they did not hear the gospel and before judgememt day. Before judgement day, the dead people reside either in spirit prison or spirit paradise. We also believe Jesus preached go those dead people, in prison, who did not receive the gospel
@@alishafiee1129 who is “our”?
Mormon missionaries are not the best to ask. They really only know the basics and even I didn't fully understand things until 20 years after my mission.
How can Mormons believe the Bible AND the Book of Mormon? There are some things that are in direct contradiction of each other.
@@donnapevey4672 cognitive dissonance keeps them going.
The book of Mormon contradicts D&C which was written later. So which is truth and which is fiction? Mormons want them to be in harmony but they can't.
One book condemns polygamy, the other says it's necessary. One book says murder can be forgiven, the other says it cant. One book says God is One, the other claims many gods.
It's sick to think someone could have that info and still trust a false organization.
Donna Pevey The Mormons claim in their 8th Article of Faith that they “believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.” That is one way the can have beliefs conflicting with what the Bible says.
@@quacks2much the problem with that is in the 21st century we now have the Internet which gives us the original Bible in Hebrew/Greek so that we can go directly to the source and figure out the translation using some basic research on those languages. Therefore the old "excuse" is no longer relevant and can't be used to contradict the Bible with the Book of Mormon.
When we visit websites like BibleHub.com we have the Interlinear option and the multiple definitions of the Greek/Hebrew words along with other parts of the Bible these words are used that we can compare. It does take some extra work and a bit of study, but the Bible does require that we "study to show thyself approved".
The problem with the old Mormon article of faith is that was a brilliant way for the original leaders to justify the cognitive dissonance however that no longer applies which is why many are waking up to the truth especially with the publication of the CES Letter which has been fully expanded.
@@donnapevey4672 please share with me some of the conflicts you have found between the Book of Mormon and the Bible.
Even though some of the comments are not good and pleasing with the missionaries we still do love you.. I am once a lds missionary and Im grateful for it.
The LDS Church has the fullness of the Gospel..I invite you all to read the Book of Mormon..
Or, better yet, read Elaine Pagels.
We don't believe we can earn our way into heaven but we have to do our part. Whaaaatt. That is working your way to heaven, I pray they open their eyes. Wow
Saved... what does it really mean to be saved? Saved from what? If you think all you have to do is to Believe that Jesus is the Son of God and yet do nothing... I don't think you will find yourself in Heaven. If you don't repent.... you expect to be saved from the punishment of your own sins? Really? I would be re-thinking these acts of nothing that your profess. Jesus said one thing that I find people just ignore.
BE YE THEREFORE PERFECT... EVEN AS YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN IS PERFECT!!!
No matter what my thoughts about the validity of Mormonism, I have to admit that every Mormon I’ve ever met has been very well mannered. I find them to be fairly well poised and kind.
"For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." Rom 16:18 (KJV)
Thankful for this video. Shared it many times to Mormon posts/ ads.
My nephew did his mission in Japan and it worked well. He made zero '"converts" ... but is now fluent in Japanese ... oh yeah, he now has a Japanese wife. (Not LDS any more ... happens.)
I have read the Book of Mormon, twice. It is arguably the greatest work of humour ever written. Great fiction.
solar clapson I fail to see the hilarity in it... perhaps we just have a very different sense of humour.
But can you name the bad verse?
Proof that you have not actually read it (let alone twice). Just reading the book of Ether would put anyone to sleep (so aptly named that "book").
What was the funniest part for you?
Winston Grettum can admit that Jesus exists but then against his own argument can't read the book of Revelation which is written very clearly about total destruction on the earth during a Great Tribulation that will unfold many awful and horrible fates on humanity. But Winston will deny this claim of the Bible but expects that VideoAudioDisco09 must accept that Jesus is real, but can't do the same himself.
Hypocrite!
Forgive them father, for they know not what they do.
I admire these young men. They face this kind of crowd every day. This message, in this day can only be accepted by the very , very humble. They're young. They have a lot of maturing ahead of them.
nooo Stephan they are elders
Markfield Park how is it satanic??? The the church is named after Christ and preach of Christ 😂
Markfield Park you must really hate these people. Maybe you should follow gods 2 greatest commandments.
Mike Simpson it’s just gonna go back and forth. I think your interpretation are wrong. And I don’t believe any of the statements you made. You aren’t a respectful person. I don’t follow Satan. Jesus is the Christ and it will be him that I kneel before on judgment day to be judged like the rest of us.
Jesus said come to Me as a little (humble) child.
Satan's first two lies:
-you shall not surely die!
-you can become like God!
Mormonism teaches:
-all matter is eternal and even if you are horrible wont ever cease to exist
-you can become a god just like God is!!!!
Any similarities are purely coincidental for sure...
*Satan's first two lies:*
*-you can become like God!*
Gen. 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil...
22 ¶ And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
so in theory, since we all know good from evil, we are all gods NOW.
More examples of excuses that don't make any sense when you think it through all the way and not just hoping someone will fall for the personal interpretation of a cult member who is deceived.
Women should be anti-LDS since according to their false narrative they spend all eternity knocked up and pregnant.
*so in theory, since we all know good from evil, we are all gods NOW.*
AS the gods.
*Women should be anti-LDS since according to their false narrative they spend all eternity knocked up and pregnant.*
First, we don't believe that.
Second, what's wrong with being pregnant?
(spoken like a true sexist "Christian")
*More examples of excuses that don't make any sense when you think it through all the way*
Because your thinking is going in absolutely the wrong way.
Maybe try not thinking so much.
lindalds
*Second, what's wrong with being pregnant?*
For all eternity? Wow! What low self-esteem you have. Christian woman don't have to endure that type of eternity but instead can reign with Him forever and ever (Revelation 22:5, 2 Timothy 2:12)
*Maybe try not thinking so much*
Ahhh, the Mormon mantra. Let others think for me. Gotcha.
That BITE model is working very nicely on you. Very nice indeed.
_Jesus is MY temple recommend because Christ does not dwell in man-made buildings_ (Acts 17:24)
*Christian woman don't have to endure that type of eternity but instead can reign with Him forever and ever*
No, that would make them goddesses and men gods and you already took that off the table.
*That BITE model is working very nicely on you. Very nice indeed*
Still have not shown me how that works. I looked it up and it either doesn't fit us at all, or it fits us the same as it fits all Christians and Jews and Moslems and Buddhists and everyone else.
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Great young men. I don't agree with them but really respect them.
“In my opinion” doesn’t make it doctrine.
Mormons are all about beliefs and opinions. After all, Mormonism isnt based on sound nor true doctrine.
@@adamgoodword7888 I guess you could say nothing is “good or sound” if you don’t believe in it. What doctrine are talking about specifically ?
@@adamgoodword7888 Uh yes it is. Book of Mormon? If you don’t know what that is then you should not weigh in on this topic at all
"in my opinion" actually could make it doctrine
@@jacobroskelley1437 LOL!!! that's how CNN works
Those two boys need to be rescued. They are so lost and led astray. Shameful.
It’s not their fault . They are just doing the best with what they have been taught . It’s very hard as you have a lot of pressure as young man to live up to everyone’s expectations
First rule, we dont talk about fight club...
Poor things, 19 and don't have a clue how deceived they've been by the mormon church
Well, I appreciate you trying...
And most likely never will.
kevin murphy first and foremost it is not part of a missionaries responsibilities to be the defenders of the LDS faith. As it has been pointed out many times the are 18-21 years old. I doubt any of you could defend your beliefs at that age, against a person who has spent countless hours training to try and pick apart your beliefs. I highly doubt that any of you at that age would pay to spend two years doing nothing but teaching your beliefs. The sad reality is, most self proclaimed Christians are some of the least Christlike people I have ever met. They use hate and fear to demonize those who do not share their beliefs. I would suggest you go back and read through the New Testament and learn how Christ taught.
Amen brother
How can you be an elder at 18 year's old?
So unless you go to the Mormon temple and participate in Masonic rituals, you cannot go to heaven? That's messed up! The Bible and the Book of Mormon teach the opposite of that.
No one ever said that. We don't believe that you either go to heaven or you go to hell, meaning some eternal barbeque pit.
I appreciated that all 3 men were polite to one another. As a Christian, I realize the importance of being civil and kind when talking with people of different faiths. Some Christians can be absolute jerks when talking to individuals of other faiths. This was an excellent discussion.
I simply ask to prove it in scripture and ask if they can find anyone in the bible that was saved just like how they was saved. I do it in love.
Lol the irony of “baptizing a skeleton would be silly” 😂
“We believe you can be saved by grace BUT”. “X”Thanks for playing
@@josephschojan4708 There is no “But.” We are saved by grace through faith apart from anything, the moment we believe how that Christ died for our sins, and that he was buried, and that he rose the third day for our justification, in whom we are sealed by the spirit unto the day of redemption.
1 Cor 15:1-4
Eph 2:8-9
Eph 4:30
Amen
It is such a breath of fresh air to see these young Mormon boys sharing their faith. Wonderful.
Wow they are amazing people .I have to say tem times better them a Christian who should be acting the way they act am a Christian but I want to take ATITUDE as the mormons they are really awesome people they may not be perfect but they are filled with the spirit that anoints them
I would not find it a breath of fresh air to see people misled by the devil attempting to bring others into their cult. I find it sad and heartbreaking.
Country City Media - These are disciples of Jesus Christ who have placed their lives on hold to serve Him. once you better understand their message you will gain a greater appreciation for their efforts. God bless.
@@tyndale25 Joseph Smith was a liar and a false prophet. This is a historical fact.
@@countrycitymedia Actually, the historical fact is that Joseph Smith was a prophet and seer of the Lord Jesus Christ. I invite you to gain your own testimony of that by prayerfully reading the Book of Mormon. It is a Testament of Jesus Christ that has partnered with the Bible in these last days to gather scattered Israel and to prepare for the return of Jesus Christ in triumphant glory. www.comeuntochrist.org/
Are LDS missionaries allowed to ask random people they meet for the first time during their 2 yrs of service , to add them to their personal Facebook page? Either people they randomly meet on the streets, OR at the ward they are serving for 2 years???? Can any former missionaries reply to me? I had male LDS missionaries ask me that. I'm a female over 21. It made me feel very uncomfortable. It was creepy. I thought LDS missionaries weren't allowed to use their personal Facebook page during the 2 yrs.
The members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are very kind and fine wonderful people.
Roy Chowdhury I’m pretty sure the issue is not whether they are kind and wonderful acting people, of course they are so are non believers and others from other religions.
The issue is whether their doctrine is true or not.
Of course Mormons are nice! They are trying to earn their way to (the Mormon) heaven.
Until you try to tell them they are wrong or simply misguided.
The mormon girls i went to church with growing up excluded and bullied me for years
So sorry to hear that. Nobody deserves to be bullied! @@eemmaa3735
Read the Book of Mormon. Instead of bashing missionaries. It's a great read 👍
I was raised as a Mormon. I even have a Mormon name. My parents use to push me so hard, telling me that the world is corrupt. That Mormonism was the only “true” religion. It broke their hearts when I decided that becoming a missionary was not for me. It’s been seven years now and my life has changed. I think it’s crazy how different my relationship with god is, after reading the Bible. I feel like in my youth I searched for him but never truly found him. I’m a Christian now, thanks to my wife who was brought up that way. She learned the gospel and thanks to her I found god. It saddens a me to see my father and his family trying to find god when they are learning more about the angel Moroni and reading from a book that was created by Joseph Smith. When they talk about Jospeh Smith they glorify him so much. They don’t talk about why people hated him so much. They twist it and make it about religion when it was about a guy who screwed people out of their money, and killed many people’s with the little battles in Illinois. Somewhere in the mid west. My dad to this day tells me “ the power of the priest hood has been given to us, use it. You have more authority then a pastor or a priest. You can heal people perform baptisms.” It’s sad that in reality we have no authority unless it’s been given to us by god. We don’t heal, god heals through us. I’m at a loss for words, the stress of religion has nothing to do with god, for he didn’t create religion he created a relationship with our Heavenly Father. No matter how hard you try to be perfect, or how often you go to the temple or read the Book of Mormon or do good works, you still won’t be saved by god..... faith and grace alone. Ask your self this Mormon why does the temple have the angel Moroni on top ? Why not Jesus? Moroni didn’t die for your sins. Why can’t everyone go into the temple ? Why do you have to be invited through the bishop ? Why do you pride your self on rituals wearing garments saying prayers exactly the same In order for them to count? We will never be God’s or anything close to god hood. I just pray my family opens their eyes like I did. It’s hard it took me so long to just finally take it in. It was so uncomfortable for me in the beginning, but now I have opened my eyes. It took years but I’m glad I’m at where I am now with the lord.
Thanks for leaving...we would have thrown you out eventually. Your weakness is a personal struggle and you need to struggle OUTSIDE of the church. Again, thanks for going.
John Lee, that’s your problem “weakness”. Your so involved in a cult that you are blinded. Jospeh Smith was not a good man. He was a false prophet. There are so many things in the Bible that contradict what Joseph smith taught. We have yet to find any artifacts of he nephites and laminates. 1 million people died ! Where are the bodies?? Is joesph was so pure why did he believe in polygamy and marry young women? Why were black not allowed to have the priesthood. Why isn’t Jesus on top of the temple? Why is everything so secretive? Why aren’t normal people allowed to visit the temple? Where does it say to practice baptisms for the dead? Isn’t it our duty to seek god while we are alive? Or to be sealed with your wife and children in the Bible? Where does it say you can be a god in the Bible ? If you can answer those questions for me and point them out, i will run back to my ward and beg for forgiveness. If Jesus never tuned his back on people who seeked him, why would your congregation do the opposite? I’m not fighting or being aggressive with anyone.
Deuteronomy 4:35,39 - Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Please don't "run back to (your) ward"!!! You need to stay out. You're a drag on the rest of us. Why do you concern yourself with a faith you say you rejected? If you don't know the answers to the questions you asked...your absence is appreciated. Have fun in the wilderness.
John Lee I was brainwashed like all the Mormons . I was born into it. I never questioned my faith until I started reading the Bible. I won’t ever go back to Mormonism. I really thought Mormons were different, until I witnessed them drinking, and having sex with other members, doing drugs like weed. Brothers coming up to my step mom and making comments about how sexy she is. I learned from going to many different wards and hoping to find “good people” that this was all bull crap. I planned on marrying with in the church and the girls were way worse then the girls at my college! Then i prayed and started reading the Bible. Asking for god to intervene in my life. I got away from all those people , started my life with my wife and she brought me even closer to god. I rather be honest with my self an accept that people aren’t perfect, that man is corrupt. That the Mormons I have been exposed to don’t, actually have Discernment. I’ll pray for you John that god will speak to you like he did with me. That you seek him and Jesus and not a false prophet. I wish you well
Thanks. Stop the Mormon obsession and move on. You'll be happier and so will we.
I will give Mormons one thing and that is they have been the most welcoming and friendly people I have ever met I have always invited them into my home even with no intention other than to get them out of The Texas heat and to cool down and maybe even feed them. But I always told them I am a nonbeliever but I am willing to listen out of kindness. All I see is these young men Riding around on their bikes looking like they're about to overheat. I know they got to do what people slamming the door in their faces all day and being rude to them just because they don't want to listen and that's not necessary.
"For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." Rom 16:18 (KJV)
This doesn't seem fair to these kids. I think they are being truthful as far as they have been taught.
Is it the fact that it got filmed?
It's fair. I was a mormon missionary when I was brainwashed. It's not like they are actually expressing their personal beliefs. Any two missionaries would have regurgitated the same dogma.
Or manipulated into believing!
@@uthinkiamhot Cmon let’s be real no one over the age of 12 has a username like yours. Shut up, and quit acting like you are a Mormon. More stuff just spewing from your mouth. All lies bud
@@HyrumSchultz-pb3sh welcome to the internet. People have fun usernames unlike yours. While I know I was a mormon missionary, you know it too. When mormons hear or read something factual that doesn't fit in their brainwashed head they go straight to ad hominem attacks. Search your feelings, you know it is true.
I served a mormon mission and baptized a shit ton of fools just as gullible as I was.
Sorry to see your god still blinds you from reality.
Are you looking forward to Rusticle "TheM" Nelson's hopeful message that needs to wait week?
They are mixing their own personal opinions ("makes sense to me") with the doctrines of the church.
cdowis yup... this is how the hell bent anti-Mormons are. We don’t do anything to anyone, if these anti-Mormons are mainly christian then they aren’t practicing what they preach. By hating on us Mormons, they are sinning in the highest. SMH
Don't research Kinderhook Plates
daveyork0 No,and definitely don't read the Gospel Topics Essays on lds.org!
@@daveyork0
Here you go -- latest research on kinderhook plates The good, the bad, the ugly
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@@cdowis u r delusional old fool hahaha ill never believe ur bullshit from the lds website
Sounds a bit complicated to me....I think I will stick with my faith in Our Lord Jesus and the truth.
You're right, Frank. The gospel is simple. "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." --2 Cor. 11:3
@Police Evil They are adorable, but they are not Christian's, and they do not even know it. We pray for their salvation.
@all4Jesus I think that they are confused Christians, lead by very convincing false prophets and false scriptures. But I like to think that they none of the people of the Mormon faith are intentionally false prophets. And I will pray with you for their eyes to be opened. Also, I don't intend this comment to offend anyone of the Mormon faith, so I'm sorry if I did
Imagine discrediting someone else's fairy tale, because you were taught a different fairy tale before you could even rationalize.
@Mike Simpson So the compilation of over 60 books, that we know aren't complete, and we know we're cherry picked, are the "one" doctrine huh?
Also, that sounds like slavery and subservience to me. No thanks.
Pretty difficult questions. Bless these missionaries.
"For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." Rom 16:18 (KJV)
Going to heaven and becoming gods? That is salvation by works. We are saved by faith in Jesus righteousness and His grace.
No, that has nothing to do with salvation but all about a false belief that they can become gods.
Just like Lucifer believed in his heart that he could ascend into heaven and be a god.
New Age'rs also believe that they are gods or can ascend to be gods.
All of it is Luciferian. It's Mormonism mingled with Theosophy.
If Alice Bailey were alive today should would be praising Mormons.
I love my Mormon brothers and sisters. All Mormon missionaries are very amazing
too bad they are the antichrist.
@@indiegamesonly6617 We are taught lessons about the return of the antichrist and to be ever vigilant. Most LDS are quite open so if they are secretly Satanist, they hide it well!
Religion isn't for everyone, if it was we would prob need to shut a lot of prison's
Such fine young men, with such an innocence about them. Unfortunately, they are teaching a false religion. My heart goes out to them 💔 They don't understand the biblical word. Mormons are the victims, not the enemies. There is a mass Exodus of mormons leaving their beliefs, and finding the Jesus of the Bible. Pray for them♥️
savannah turner I have been praying for them & will continue to do so.
A mass exodus of them turning away from God. Once you've had filet mignon, you can't go back to Big macs
FYI Savannah, all religion is false when examined under the correct lense. Obviously they're teaching a false religion - however so do you and every other cognitive dissonant zealot on the planet.
Yes Mormonism is false, its scriptural orgins are manufactured fiction, and it's founder a total fraud, however one need only apply that same magnifying glass to the Bible, the Quran, the Torah, and they will easily discover it's just as riddled with fictitious accounts, unverifiable truth claims and ridiculous superstitious hogwash.
Mass Exodus from Mormonism to your _"xyz true religion of Christ/Allah/Big Bird"_ is the proverbial 'dog eating its own vomit.'
Why trade one superstition for another?
The innocence you seen was the fruits of the Spirit. The Bible says, 'ye shall know them by their fruits'. It also says, at Galatians 5:22-23, '...the fruits of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance...'. Look at the way these 2, 19 year olds, conduct themselves in what might have been an intimidating time for them. Do you not think God is helping them enough?
There's not one true religion.
Mormons, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, ect... All believe they have the truth. They all feel the same feeling of faith and spirit (ex. the holy Spirit). Why do you have the power to say which one is true?
All religions can be emotionally, financially, and spiritually abusive.
Mormonism is objectivly terrible for the reasobs above, but so is what ever religion your promoting.
I see alot of people disagree with the Faith but I don't understand the insults and being plain rude we try our best to treat everyone with respect and Love like Jesus Christ told us to.
I agree there's no reason and it doesn't really help the method of discussion. However, it does get frustrating when Mormons will ignore basic facts about history, the Bible and actual studies done by professionals that makes me wonder why they become so childish about what is obvious. I've seen Mormons that just get mean and nasty rather than try to understand the material and look into it deeper and see if there is something to learn.
It becomes obvious to many, that if you are biased against a certain organization, you will defend it even if it requires making excuses to keep the mind dealing with being cognitive dissonant.
you will only reach the kingdom through Jesusn name, be born again
Yes and there are multiple religiouns that believe this. Mormonism isn't the only one
Christians don’t believe in being born again that’s a work
Just the idea of calling a 19-year-old “elder” is enough to make me laugh.
agreed
When I was growing up in the Methodist church, that body made our pastor an Elder and he was in his early 30's.
"The term "elder" is used in the Biblical sense, where it was also not intended to refer to age. Look at Paul writing to Timothy. He refers to him as an Elder of the Church, but also tells him "let no man despise thy youth". In other words, "don't let anyone look down on you and say you wouldn't be a good Elder because you're a young man, fresh out of high school with little of the wisdom that an 'elder' man should have."
Well, that's odd. I don't see your latest question on this thread but received in my email. But I'll go ahead and answer it here. 1 Timothy 3 refers to deacons or Elders, or people of position in the church. You stated, regarding 1Timothy 3, "....refer to Elders as "the husband of one wife", and that "his family is in good order." Then you asked if I know any LDS missionaries who fit this description. Absolutely. Keep in mind, it doesn't say that an Elder must be married. Most LDS families I know are in great order. Just like those in many other faiths. The LDS families seem to be even more close knit and in good order than many others. After all, families are forever, why not try especially hard to rely on one another? Secondly, there are also thousands of married men and women who dedicate themselves as couple missionaries. Not uncommon for LDS seniors to fill this role together when all of the kids have moved out of the nest and starting families of their own.
Fire Power Fire Power Goodness me, I haven’t the foggiest notion how THAT happened 🧐🤪. I appreciate being able to discuss issues civilly.🙂
You have a wider experience than I do in this area, knowing married missionaries, I mean. I’m still going to stick to the married qualification, with the possible exception of a widower who was part of a family unit fitting the applicable description. I won’t branch off into other issues, but think that we’re going to have to agree to disagree. Thanks again for the polite conversation.👍🏼
for all Mormons out there, and all the religions for that matter.... "YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN". Jesus Christ, the Lord of lords, the Alpha e Omega, Creator of everything. That's right, HE said that.
Adalberto Modes I read about being born again lots in the Book of Mormon. I havn’t decided if I want to join their church yet, but I’ve learnt a lot from that book.
Good job Elders. May Our Heavenly Father continually bless you in your lives. As members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, we also believe in one True God and Jesus Christ is our Saviour and Redeemer.
Mormons belief is a heresy.
A vain comfort to themselves.
It's amazing how indoctrinated they are. I feel sorry for these guys they both seem like good guys. Hopefully they can find the light.
No more indoctrinated than any other church or religion.
Drew Elliott I could say that you are just as indoctrinated. It is a claim of the uninformed and lazy. For indoctrination to work, what information and how it’s delivered have to be strictly controlled. The church gives out lesson Manuel’s and rotates the topic for the year ( Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants). But how the lesson goes is up to each individual teacher. Any training teachers receive is almost always how to get people to participate. You say these missionaries are indoctrinated, but, 18-19yo in your church wouldn’t spend there own money and go for 2 years doing nothing but preach their beliefs.
Adam Johnson You could say i was just as indoctrinated as they are but that would be an ignorant statement considering the only thing you know about me is a short comment on CZcams. Indoctrination is to accept a set of beliefs uncritically which i assure you, i have come to my beliefs from a very skeptical and objective standpoint. Which i don't believe anyone who does the same could come to the conclusion that Mormon doctrine is truth.
Drew Elliott I’ve reader he’d just about every criticism out there, and 99% of them are one sided, misleading, fallacy. It is all just regurgitated crap.
Drew Elliott well I have look at just about every criticism that is out there, they are full of fallacies and half truths. Created by people who know very little about the church or its doctrine. They use sources that would not pass even the the slightest scrutiny. They are hate filled fear mongers, who wouldn’t know Jesus if he was standing right in front of them.
How zealous would Mormons be for the truth if they got saved by the real Jesus? Pray for the Mormons....Christians know the truth but they aren't going door to door!
actually there are "christian missionaries"
91: 1: I've been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 40 years and before that 30 years in the Southern Baptist Church. Both had the same Jesus. Jesus Christ was God, made or formed this earth, born into this world to Mary who conceived and gave birth as a virgin. My Jesus is my Lord, Savior, and Redeemer
. How is yours different?
@J Greg: I doubt you know who the real God is or Satan. I've met a couple of people who are in to Satanism. One guy said he joined for sexual relationships but thought the group was make believe. He told me he felt because of his involvement even though not seriously intended that he couldn't be forgiven. That is what happens when you mess with Satanism. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is just the opposite of Satanism!
@@dleoburns the LDS Jesus is the brother of Satan and is a creation of God the Father. The Jesus of the Bible is the uncreated God who has always existed as part of the Trinity. They are definitely not the same and the gospel becomes distorted with the false Jesus of LDS.
@@TheStemo1: Show me the word Trinity or the doctrine of the Trinity in the King James Version of the Bible. The three are called the Godhead and not the Trinity.
The last minute is the most revealing. What separates the Mormon gospel from the Gospel of Jesus is Ephesians 2:8,9 - "NOT OF WORKS, so that no man can boast." What makes LDS (Mormonism) a cult/sect is that (in their mindset), nothing is legitimate unless it goes through their "church". Baptism in another denomination is not acceptable. Ordination is another denomination doesn't count. Recognition elsewhere carries no weight with them. Only their own authority structure is legitimate to them, thus de-legitimizing God's authority in His Church everywhere else.
bmfriess, I'm guessing you belong to a Protestant sect? The Roman Catholic church where did their doctrines derive from? Answer this latter question then you will begin to understand why God who is Holy must not allow His authority and power to be blemished by things of a worldly nature.
Very well said. Be one of them and if not it doesn't count.
Heaven Awates No one can stop the progression of the Lord's kingdom on the earth. Whatever you say, it will not stop God's work. Leave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, for we have good fruit and good doctrine.
Earl Jared Banaga
Freemasons = cult
God = God
lol, I'm not a freemason.
It's frustrating how intelligent they are. I credit my upbringing in a fundamentalist Christian homeschool community for equipping me to be an excellent attorney. I was raised doing the mental gymnastics and rationalizing that attorneys are trained to do. It teaches you how to operate within a set of rules and align your personal reality with those rules.
Wow. This makes me so sad on so many levels.
What is sad about this?
How deceived they are.
bowrudder, are they oppressed or something? What harm do their beliefs cause to them and society, or do their beliefs make them a benefit to society?
Yes, I agree sad that people record others without their knowledge very, very SAD
Sid
You are assuming that people were being recorded without their knowledge.
My heart breaks for these two. I have a dozen questions I’d ask them. They’re just programmed -
Baby Albatross Music, and you are not? Let me ask you what is The GOSPEL?
The Gospel is more than “The Romans Road” of verses. It is the power of God unto Salvation. It is a message, & it is a gift. Repentance, Belief, casting your self & soul on the mercy of the Lord. Losing your life & identity yet gaining a new one (Gal 2:20).
Believing in the real, biblically revealed Jesus, the Promised One.
Your response indicates you have a skeptical heart. I don’t believe in the effectiveness of evangelizing through YT comments. Seek the Lord while He May be found, Call on Him (not me) and He will draw near to you.
You can ask me your questions.
lindalds, What is the Gospel? And is the Kingdom of God here?
This is the gospel, in a nut shell.
1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Satan in the Garden of Eden said, "if you take a bite of this fruit, you will BECOME LIKE GOD knowing both good and evil." Wow. SO many similarities its frightening!
Genesis
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Genesis
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Mormons need our prayers that they one day will find the Lord and be saved.
The interviewer of these to young missionaries has a condescending demeanor. You must think you're a big man mocking two 19-year old teenagers, who were sent out to share a message. Yes, the LDS Church sent out these 19-year old's to share a message; this is why they are called missionaries. You have obviously rejected their message.
Mormonism fits the BITE model of a cult, as described by cult expert and author Steve Hassan, to a T! It's like, I don't want say it's a cult, but..... I feel really sorry for them, they are so often truly kind and nice people, I just feel like they are under such bondage, and from the stories I've heard from so many who have left, it seems like it's a constant feeling of never measuring up, never being good enough, no matter how many callings they served, no matter how hard they tried, they were just on this big hamster wheel, always running, always doing the next thing to try to be better. Mormonism teaches you don't get the atonement, the grace of Jesus until after ALL THAT YOU CAN DO, and who knows what that is? It's so ambiguous, it leaves you in constant doubt, a constant state of worry. Most LDS I've talked to have no idea where they'll go when they die, what level of glory. That is just really sad to me. Jesus died to set us free from the law, his yoke is easy, his burden light. Their doctrine is so backwards to me, and it breaks my heart, because I think a lot of them would make really amazing Christians!
There is NOTHING in that BITE thing that fits our church.
lindalds lol spoken like a true deluded BITE model representative. Nice.
I teach the BITE model in my class. While Jehovah's Witnesses use it more aggressively, LDS is more intelligent in their deception to use it as well.
Maybe you should take my class. I have only had one Mormon take it so far. Jehovah's Witnesses don't bother with college so no chance to get them in my class.
Great! Tell me when and where.
lindalds we are located in Rochester, NY I'll even ask the college administration if you can get in for free although you will still need to get a student ID card as no one is allowed to walk around the campus without one (school shootings, rape, etc). I'm sure I can provide them with a confidence that you would be OK, I don't think an old woman in her 60's would be much of a threat to anyone on campus.
Unfortunately, I've already done the bulk of the Mormon/JW teaching earlier in the semester we are now covering Mary Baker Eddy the Founder of Christian Science. We have a whole book just dedicated to that idea "The Science of Mind" by Ernest Holmes. You want to learn about a really messed up cult, check out this woman and their church. Many atheists convert to religions like this because science makes more sense than faith. I spend a short time on L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology) as a derivative of her mostly because it's not as strong an influence except in Hollywood.
After her, I follow up with Francis David (Unitarianism), Bishop Monroe R. Saunders, Sr. (United Church of Jesus Christ) and David Berg (Children of God/Family International).
You'll notice that Bishop Monroe R. Saunders also included the name "Jesus Christ" in the title of his church so it always seems hilarious to me when Mormons claim that their church uses that name like it really means anything.
I can open an ice cream shop called "The Ice Cream Shoppe of Jesus Christ for Sweet Tasters" and not sure if that has any real significance other than I can name something anything I want.
If I am asked back to both colleges this fall, we start right off into the big ones (Mormonism, JW) which would be the first 4-weeks of September. Book your flight now, it will be cheaper.
Thanks, George, but, much as I would love to attend your class, I do live in Ohio and it would be a hardship to come to New York for classes. Although living so close to Palmyra would not be a bad thing!
I just can't figure out which college it is, as I don't see your name on any faculty list on any of the colleges listed in the Rochester area. The only George Bauerschmidt I've found is a total computer "geek" who doesn't sound like he teaches anything re: religion, Christianity, etc.
They need to throw away that book of Mormon and pick up a bible and live by the word period. Jesus said trust no one and if anyone preaches a different gospel then he is a false prophet. Jesus was the last prophet. I pray that God removes the veil over their eyes and lets them see the real truth.
The real truth? Is that your truth, or my truth?
Have you ever read the Book of Mormon? Only if you have read it cover to cover can you make any sort of judgment on it.
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They need to throw away that Book of Mormon and a Bible, and start reading classics, psychology and science instead.
The Bible and the Book of Mormon are classics.
Mormons read the Bible, I can promise you that.
What makes you think that Mormons reject the bible? I'm actually really curious because a lot of Mormons I talk to say the learn and teach the bible in Sunday school. One of there articles of faith (What they believe) says that they believe the bible to be the word of god.
These young men are admirable for their commitment to their beliefs as demonstrated by their missionary service. God bless them and show them the truth of the lord.
They are where they are to spread the truth of the Lord.
Much respect for these two young men, at age 19 and being so mature and knowledgable, same as the elders that have been teaching me. I am new to the LDS church and my fellow members are great people that will help you and they have answered all my questions openly. Seriously people, there are bigger problema in this world than worrying about a religions views on underwear and such.
Mormons say you can be like God, that's Satan's original lie. It's not about underwear.
Just know that the Christian Holy Bible proclaims Jesus as God - coeternal and coequal with the Father and the Holy Spirit. None are created and yet created everything. Where the lds church says that Jesus is created being and not God and brothers with satan. This is blasphemy and idolatry according to the Christian faith. The lds Bible was altered in the verses that talk about Jesus's deity and are different from the original 2000yrs old manuscripts. The lds belive a different gospel then the original disciples and apostles taught and died for. Just so you know because I want you to be saved and to not be deceived. God bless
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu Thanks, actually I have left the LDS church not long after posting here, I now belong to a southern baptist church.
@@davidg6921 thank God! You dodged that bullet..
@@davidg6921 praise the Lord!! Jesus is GOD amennnnn