"When to be Scared You're NOT a Genuine Christian"
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- In this video, I respond to Mike Winger's recent clip entitled "When to be scared you're NOT a genuine Christian." We examine Ephesians 5:5 in context and give an explanation which is consistent with the Gospel. I pray this video provides clarity and dispels any confusion concerning this subject. God bless! -OD
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There's no scary zone unless you're believing in a form of works based salvation.
Amen!
@@Controle9165 "Unbelievers," in the context of Luke 12.46, just means servants who didn't think the master would come soon. In other words, he will get his portion with the bad Christians. It's not talking about non-Christians.
We are part of the body of Christ, we are not slaves.
@@Controle9165 I read that we are children of God and part of the body of Christ. Also, we are His bride, fully redeemed. I thank God for His plan, and for Paul's teaching.
@@denisekay4292amen. Unfortunately most new bible translations use the word slaves instead of servants and teach quite a bit of works based ideology through bad translation.
There’s no fuzzy zone. You believe or you don’t. You’re saved by grace through FAITH or you’re not.
Amen Shawn.
Yeah, but not everyone who claims it is a believer.
@@arcguardian that is not for man to judge
From what I am gathering by these clips of Mike Winger, Mike is talking about his point of view about someone else claiming to be a believer. Mike does not know, I don't, Ono does not, you do not, know the true heart of a person. We can guess and we can feel certain or not about it, but on the outside, there are many folks that we won't know.
@@danielkim672 you can get a good estimate by hearing what’s in there heart. For example where I use to work when ever I get a new coworker and I found out he was a believer I would make small talk and then to proceed ask him/her why is he going to heaven and I would let them talk and I would just listen and observe. Scary part is nine times out of ten they would all say well…because I go to church, I read my Bible, I’m a good person I try to do the right thing I pray everyday. I haven’t heard anybody in person reply back saying because Jesus died for all my sins and I’m trusting in him. It’s just a lot of (I do’s)
I used to believe this and was so confused everyday it’s nice to not doubt anymore and just live life
Amen.
The relief 😮💨
so when you sin do you repent or even that is a work?
because my salvation is secure but i still repent bevause the Holy Spirit living in me admonishes and corrects me
We can't go based off of our feelings. Sometimes you feel God near sometimes he feels far! But he is always there. Our feelings go up and down fast.. God is the same always.
@@GuadalupeLopez-sw3bz so true
Amen.
Rom 11:6
"And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."
@@Controle9165 no sin "at that very moment" or no sin. Which is it?
Does the blood of Christ not know the future?
You should drop the word repent because you are using it incorrectly.
When you are born again you should walk according to the Spirit not the flesh. It is a choice to you, a choice that is only afforded to those who are born again.
You don't need to turn, you just simply stop appeasing the flesh or feeding the carnal man and start walking with the spirit, this is not a "repent" issue, this is a behavioral/relationship issue.
Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind!
God knows your end from your beginning and if you truly believe and are born again all your sin is forgiven and you are washed clean.
It's eternal life, his eternal life which for you is life everlasting, yesterday today and tomorrow..... life!
@@888WulfDog888Amen
What people need to understand is that once you are saved, you are no longer seen as sexually impure, idolator, etc. even if you commit those sins again. The unrighteous (unsaved) are seen as those things because they have not believed and received the righteousness of Jesus. The blood of Christ covers all sin, you have been washed and sanctified by what He has done. If you are putting your faith on your behavior rather than on Christ, then you are not a genuine Christian.
@@valkyrafeso basically the power of the blood of Jesus is dependent on you?
Can't see why you would need the blood of Jesus then....
I wonder if people like you ever truly think about what it is you believe or say.
You sure as heck have not come to a place in your life where you truly realize you are a hopeless sinner.
@@valkyrafe Just because we are saved does not mean we will never sin again (good luck with that), and if we sin that does not mean we aren't saved anymore. You got this all confussed.
@@valkyrafe- "IF" we walk in the light? We walk in the light by believing in Jesus! Praise God for His blessings on us through Jesus's blood. 🙏
@@valkyrafeThe context of that passage is in the verses before and after. John was combating gnostic teachers who said they were WITHOUT SIN. They were liars and the truth was not in them. That’s why John mentions this in the passages before and after. To walk in truth vs walk in darkness. To lie and say you are without sin, and deny that you have need of a Savior, is to walk in darkness. To admit that you have sinned and confess before God that you have sinned, is to walk in the truth and the light. That is the context. You folks need to stop cherry picking.
@@ManassehJonesSo you have stopped sinning? Before you answer, remember the standard of the law JESUS gives us in Matt 5. To be angry with a brother is murder. To look with lust is adultery. You don’t understand what these passages are saying and are in error.
Man looks on the outward appearance and God looks on the heart!! Ultimately God knows!!
We can know also. By their fruits we will know them. We are called to judge righteously. If we do not judge righteously we let all sorts of doctrines of devils into the church. The evidence of this is rampant into todays churches. They want Christianity without Christ. The god of self is elevated in the church today. We don’t judge righteously to tear down people, but to edify and help keep them on the narrow path.
@@MaeBee602true
This ministry is a great blessing to the Body of Christ! You rightly divide like few do, which is so needed! Thank you, brother!!
A work based salvation will keep you living in anxiety and depression, fear of losing your salvation until you believe in Jesus Christ alone for eternal life is the one and only way to find true peace.
What I've noticed is, when I have willful sin, the Holy Spirit isnt noticeable in same way as when i am not committing willful sin. Intentional sin has a real Cost to the believer. It robs them of the peace and joy we experience through The Holy Spirit.
All sin is "willful"
@@CJ-lr4uq sin isn't just Action. It's also Not doing what one should do, sinful thoughts, sins we speak, even the good we do can be motivated by Pride and deceit.
@@joshuatrott193 I'm aware of all of that.
@@CJ-lr4uq will full sin is being aware of a sin and then committing it anyway. That's different than internal sinful patterns.
@@joshuatrott193
Sin is Unbelief In the WORD of our Father which gives us the gift of Peace, Love, Patience, and Joy, that God before ordained that we should walk in…
Sin brings about fear, uncertainty of who we are and where we stand in the sight of Father, the Holy Spirit is the Work/Gift that he gives to all that are His which is Peace
The depths of Fathers Love, no man can find, but we indeed have it….Be Encouraged
The world needs channels like this!! The war against the flesh often creates weary warriors who let their guard down.
God bless you and your clarity between salvation and discipleship!
hey it's you the kingdom rush guy, didn't think i'd find you here
Onorato is 100% biblically spot on❤️🙏 May God bless him, his family and his Ministry.
Thank you brother for continuing to address all of these false man centered views and helping others to see faith in Christ alone is the evidence they look to and never should they look at themselves for assurance.
Man centered view? He’s reading scripture. The word of God says the sexually immoral will NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Mike is saying hey check yourself, if you claim that you have “faith in Jesus” yet you produce no fruit then your tree is dead. I don’t see how Mike is just presenting a “man centered” view. He’s attempting to help people examine themselves to see if their faith is genuine.
Yeah thanks a lot great news
@@majorcajun5524The old ploy of its not by works but works prove your salvation.
Backloading, double talking, fruit inspecting, devil!
@@majorcajun5524 A person's faith is genuine if they are trusting in Christ alone as their propitiation and Saviour. Read Corinthian's as a whole they are called Saints right from the start despite having tons of bad fruit.
The whole context of Corinthians is saints in error practically some to the degree the Lord made them sick and some he took their lives and took them to heaven.
The books of James is a book teaching selflessness and how to have a faith that Profits Others versus one that doesn't. Its not a test your faith to see if your human works prove anything.
Mike like most is preaching look at yourself in the mirror self righteous gospel.
The bible says Look Only at Christ and what He did for all humanity.
@@majorcajun5524 The entire book of Corinthians in context is to those who ARE sanctified In Christ. Those who ARE Saints by Faith/Trust/Reliance Upon Christ Alone.
The same ones arguing amongst themselves, picking a favorite Bible teacher be it Paul, Apollos, or Jesus.
The same one's going to the pagan temples performing sexual perversity, the same ones getting drunk at the assembly, the same ones suing each other before the unjustified/unbelievers/unrighteous and not allowing the Just/Saints to judge the issue.
The same ones in the same chapter Mike pulls out of context who will all assurity Paul says SHALL judge the angels in the future. Paul generically details the typical sins those same unbelievers/unrighteous do but them not having an inheritance in the kingdom isn't because of those sins or that they do them or saying that's proof because to be Righteous/Just/Saints is by imputation of the Perfect Righteousness gifted by Jesus through Faith Alone. Paul never once questions the destiny of the Saints despite their failures but actually reaffirms it and the need for growth and gives admonitions how to mature and avoid the chastening of the Lord upon His children.
Because Mike is pointing to himself, and teaching others the opposite of Paul in the very book he is speaking out of Mike like Most are man centered thinking sinners deeds and acts are proof of one trusting in Christ's payment for them and that's why you see Mike and so many speak with such doubt and lacking faith that regardless of hoe good or bad we think we live the full one time payment by Jesus satisfied once and for all every requirement needed for a sinner to be eternally redeemed and made a child of God Forever.
1 Corinthians 1
1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1 Corinthians 6
1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
thank you for being on point instead of dragging/stretching out the topic for views.
He is literally answering his own question as these passages have to do with inheritance, kingdom and rewards. NOT eternal life and rescue from judgment.
He is spiritually blind
Yes and he even points out the problem, it's a "grey area".
Exactly what I was going to say brother. But they would rather make a liar out of God before they study His word more deeply. That Judgement Seat of Christ is going to be something else. I just want to make it through the beating so I can get to the marriage supper of the Lamb amen?
@@NOTOFWORKS289calling Mike Winger spiritually blind is probably the biggest oxymoron I’ve heard in a long time.
@wowitsfrostygames155 he is. He cant even answer his on question. Which means you dont know how many sins it takes to be unsaved. Ill wait for a number. Take your time.
It's just another Ray Comfort Lordship Salvation nonsense! They say we are saved by the Free Gift of Christ's work but we not because we must produce Works to prove it! That's not the Gospel.
Ikr, isaiah saldivar is a manifest example of this. In a bideo he literally said, and I quote “God’s salvation is a free gift but you have to give up everything for it”
I saw that video too. I was like 😐 .....what????
He needs to look over romans 11.6
And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
@SheepOfChrist818 what an unsaved goat. I hope he gets banned off CZcams and loses his platform. Pray for this also with me brother
@@ntkmw8058 What? Really? That is false. You give up everything because you no longer belong to the world, but you belong to Christ. Sure, you turn away from sin, and no longer desire the things of the world. But that is the fruit that grows from salvation. Dude has it backwards.
@@ntkmw8058I get what he means tho. Before I met Jesus I was living a party lifestyle. After I met Jesus I had to give up the lifestyle that I used to love, and everything that comes with it. which was basically my whole life. I don’t think me giving those things up is classified as me doing “works” I’m just being obedient of not living like the world anymore. So to me it makes sense what Isiah said. I think there’s just a big difference between obedience and works
Another works backloader. Carnal Christians will be punished but not by losing salvation.
Amen 1 cor 3:15
“If any man’s works shall be burned he shall suffer loss, yet he shall be saved yet so as by fire”
@@ntkmw8058 Precisely!!!
Chastised, not punished.
I believe I’m saved because I have the Holy Spirit in me, I used to be an awful person, now I just want to follow God’s rules and study his words. We have such an amazing creator! His grace is so precious!
Hey brother I just came to Christ a few months ago, it's a beautiful thing? While I have sin, I don't live in sin. While I have doubts, I don't live in doubt. While I have fear, I don't live in fear.
Although I have struggles, the love of the Lord is stronger than all my mistakes. For you reading this, He is stronger than your mistakes too. I love the Lord.
Amen 🙏 brother in Christ ✝️ God bless
Born again brethren’s in Christ like us should not partake with the unfruitful works of darkness although born again brethren’s in Christ can partake with unfruitful works of darkness and still have our Salvation (Eternal Life)
According to Acts 17:30, we must ALL repent of our sins in order to be saved! What determines if we get into Heaven is whether or not we are obedient to the Lord and his commands, as Jesus showed us in Matthew 7:21-23.
God's Plan of Salvation
Hear the Gospel. (Romans 10:17, John 8:32)
Believe the Gospel (Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31)
Repent of past sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30)
Confess faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32)
Be Baptized (Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38)
Be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10)
@@Worship_Universe Jonah 3:10 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God) says 10. And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
God says in his word through Jonah 3:10 in the Holy Bible that repenting of our sins (Turning Away From Our Sins) is WORKS and God says in his word through Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, Romans 4:5 and Romans 3:27-28 that we are not saved by works therefore, we are not saved by repenting of our sins (Turning Away From Our Sins). As for Matthew 7:21-23 in the Holy Bible (Word Of God), the will of the Father which is in heaven that Matthew 7:21 is talking about in order to enter into the kingdom of heaven is found in John 6:40 and for the rest of the verses you replied to me was taken out of context such as Acts 17:30, Romans 10:17, John 8:32, Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31, Luke13:3, Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32, Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38 and Revelation 2:10. The word repent you replied to me means a change of mind from unbelief to belief in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, the word repent you replied to me does not mean turn away from sins because notice the words of your sins to the word repent is not mentioned.
Right on brother! IT'S PARTY TIME!! Am I right? (fist bump) WOOHOO!!!
Thank you brother. So refreshing to hear the word of God rightly divided. And all scripture, and the understanding of it starts with the clear gospel of grace. May God richly bless you brother.
Sorry for spamming you, just trying to find folks that believe in the simple gospel of grace and invite them to my channel. Thanks! czcams.com/video/wXr4wGPQNEQ/video.html
Yeah mike’s standpoint really comes across as you need to essentially prove that you are saved. While we are supposed to produce good works and WALK WORTHY OF OUR CALLING it is not to prove or keep our salvation. It is to glorify the king and minister to our fellow man Ephesians 4.
Backloading works is so subtle yet I think one of the most dangerous gospels as fruit inspection is a way to determine your salvation taking the focus of Christ and back to your works to keep you saved. Praying this man is saved yet just confused and that God may give him clarity over the word and assurance of his salvation in Christ alone away from his behaviour.
Also pray more people would come to know the truth of the gospel !
Thanks for the video brother 🙏🏾🤍
Mike is not backloading works. He states in the beginning example of such things like the mere fact someone stops sin, that does not have any part in salvation. IF, someone is truly saved, Mike is saying then that person, because they are a new creation, will do these good works, not to save, but due to discipleship and as a result of being a Christian. I did not find any hint of Mike arguing for a works based salvation.
@@danielkim672 You just stated what back-loading works is. Salvation is by believing in Jesus so if you want to examine if you are truly saved, ask the question "do I believe in Jesus?". If the answer is yes then you are truly saved.
@@lack76 Do you believe everyone that answers that question yes is truly saved?
@@danielkim672If they believe in his death burial and resurrection then they shall be saved 1 Corinthians 15 v1-4
@@patcola7335 Yes! Agreed
It's not what we do or don't do that defines our salvation. It is what we believe concerning who Jesus is, and what He has done. We know who is saved, by what they say out of their mouth, because what a man says reveals His heart.
Then that would mean when fruits is quoted in the bible it would mean gospel. So when you want to know if someone is saved you ask them what the gospel is as that is their fruit. Even a satanist has fruit but is it good? Of course not because it lies but thats the point. If you want to know if someone is saved you check their fruit in accordance to the bible
@@marcovelice Fruit has several meanings in the Bible, and the context defines it. False prophets are know by their fruit, because of what they SAY concerning God, which is false. Christians bear the fruit of souls when they preach the gospel, if they believe it. The fruit of the Spirit belongs to God, and believers are the beneficiaries of that fruit, not the producers or exhibitors.
@@marcovelicefruits of the Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, longsuffering, etc. what Paul says there is no Law. Be careful what you are inspecting to determine the maturity of a Believer.
Fantastic as always Norm. These guys had me in doubt for so many years. Praise God for pulling me out of that error.
FRFR. Thank GOD. For showing us this.
Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. for whatsoever a man sows, that he shall also reap. Whoever sows to please their flesh from the flesh will reap destruction: whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Galatian 6:8
Thank you for these short but powerful videos that clear away false opinions, scripture tells us over and over we are saved by simply believing in Jesus, it's why He is Savior, we can not save ourselves, creation/the cross are His plans not ours. God bless you and yours.🙏
Did Mike Winger say we could save ourselves?
@@danielkim672 No he didn't. It seems like the guy running this channel and many of these followers have a big problem with basic comprehension of English. Judging by your previous comments, you actually understand what Mike has said and he is entirely accurate from a biblical perspective. Thank you for sticking up for the truth.
@@wordsofjames I like Ono a lot, I just have to think he misunderstood what Mike is trying to say here. Unlike some other CZcamsrs, I don't think he is trying to purposefully be dishonest about what Mike is saying.
Absolutely right. So many preachers don't make a distinction between the scriptures about JUSTIFICATION and SANCTIFICATION, and that causes so much confusion in the Body of Christ.
Being saved is one thing, learning to live in our identity "in Christ" by applying the doctrine (from Paul's epistles) is another.
Amen!
Jesus Christ has already justified and sanctified you according to Hebrews 10. Believe in Jesus Christ.
Paul said , Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
So many preachers today give a confusing salvation message because they mix faith and works and they confuse salvation with service. They give a muddy and unclear gospel message. Thank you for rebutting the many false teachers out there. God bless
And Mike Winger is not one of them. He is crystal clear we are saved by Faith alone.
Not everyone is purposely a false teacher but rather many are grasping to understand.
@@danielkim672mike believes in faith alone yes but the problem is he believes true faith means stop sinning which we know is wrong
@@KronZoldyck As far as I know, Mike does not teach that 'true faith' mean we stop sinning. I have never heard him teach that. Even in this video, he says at the start that even if someone stops doing a certain sin, that that person is saved or that act contributes to salvation. What Mike teaches, as an outsider looking in, is that if you are indeed saved and have God inside you, that although we will never be completely sinless, that we will move away from sin and toward being more like Jesus Christ. That is Biblical. Are there some people that from the outside still look like totally unsaved yet their soul is saved? Yes, but that would probably is less common.
Where in this video does Mike claim true faith is that person stop sinning? Please find me another video of MIke, he has a lot, that he is teaching this?
@@KronZoldyck Mike doesn't actually claim that belief. You are putting words in his mouth.
Get in the fuzzy zone is definitely not Biblical lol
😂 amen
The “fuzzy zone” is akin to purgatory. It’s like purgatory while you’re alive😂
Mike literally said DONT live a life that “appears fuzzy” and if you have faith in Christ as your Savior you wouldn’t even want to (something Paul ALSO says in Romans).
I’m not sure how the guy restating Mike’s own points using slightly different analogies is in any way “refuting” him but I would encourage people to stop trying to tear down genuine believers and just preach the Gospel instead,
@@Vales55 I don’t understand how you don’t see the difference in the 2 points being made your boy Mike is saying if your a Christian you might not be a Christian do to your actions but ono is saying the verse implies that unbelievers will not inherit the kingdom so believers should not hang out with them and partake in they’re darkness because they’re not your brothers in Christ they won’t be in heaven with you
@@change_your_style Guess what, first John chapter two also says the exact same thing stating that there are people in churches whose faith is not genuine and they inevitably leave.
He also has isn’t saying we should look down at our noses at them but rather witness to them exactly like any other unbeliever. Something you would know if you actually watched Mike’s full video which is t any longer than this I e (though notably omits the weird repetition).
The thing is we ARE called to judge whether we are believers by the fruit of the spirit. If we lack it then we should question whether our faith is genuine.
Mike never once says or implies that real Christians do not sin or struggle with it. What he IS saying is that if someone continues unchanged on a path of sin without the desire to change, then clearly they are not showing repentance or conviction of of the Holy Spirit. If that’s the case then that person needs to ask WHY they aren’t changing an examine whether their faith is at all genuine.
If you have a problem with that then you are doing seekers and yourself a terrible disservice. Because that is exactly what admonishment in the Bible IS.
Amen & Thank You !!!
Something that is often missed here by believers (especially in comment sections) when talking about who is saved. There is difference between:
A. Categorically making a JUDGEMENT about somebody's eternal destiny i.e. "He/She is going to Heaven/hell."
B. Making an OBSERVATION about an individual's behaviour i.e. "What can I notice about that person."
I am appealing to fellow brothers and sisters in Christ to have better wisdom when talking about these things. Nobody will ever reach pure sinlessness in this life, even with the real sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit over time. Never damn somebody to hell. Encourage each other daily as long as it is called today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deception.
Only faith in the death and resurrection of Christ for our sins saves us, regardless of how we behave after believing this. Yes, there may be great progress or very little evidence at all or even ungodly behavior, but God will deal with each child according to one’s own merits. Rewards, punishment or even death, but that doesn’t change salvation by faith alone!
I haven't even heard what Ono will say in response, and I'm already upset at the misinterpretation of what was written to exhort and ENCOURAGE believers. You were washed! You're clean! God's wrath isn't on you, because you've believed that God saves you through his son. So how can you participate in these things alongside people who are under God's judgement for these very things? It's not only bad for you, it's unloving to THEM.
Certain people who appeared very, very holy on the outside were called 'whitewashed tombs' by Jesus. Do not aspire to replace one whitewash with another. Whatever colour you paint a tomb, it's still full of dead men's bones. God alone gifts life.
It’s amazing to me that Mike Winger is a pastor with such a large following and he can’t grasp this concept. I can literally see him making up what he thinks it means as he reads it.
Mike is not disagreeing with Ono. The key part Ono said is that Mike implied someone could lose their salvation if they keep committing sin. Mike never said that in this video nor in any teaching. Mike has not taught that a true believer can lose their salvation. As an outsider that does not truly know another person's heart, Mike is saying if one is still committing sin to the same or worse degree, is that person really saved. That is a legitimate question that James also asks. Mike at the start of the video is clear, just because one stops a sin, in no way does that contribute to salvation. But that a true believer, once they are first saved, since they are a new creation, 'SHOULD' naturally repent, want to move away from sin and do God's work.
@@danielkim672Yes they should. But it is not a requirement for salvation. Mike is saying that if we continue in these behaviors then we aren’t saved. That’s false
@@Dispensational_David I guess I didnt get that from what Mike said. I don't believe Mike means 'if we continue in these behaviors then we arent saved'. I believe Mike meant 'it COULD BE a sign a person is not saved'. Bible is clear, people will deceive themselves, and some others (Judas) probably purposefully deceived themselves.
Amen brother!!!
Great teaching and rightly divided the word of truth!! "I'm only a sinner saved by grace.".
Mike is kind of right though, I have to say after around 18 years of being saved I have arrived at a place in my walk with Jesus where certain sin has become unacceptable and even repulsive to me.
Being saved does change you, the Spirit knows when and where you are to bear fruit.
For me it was agonizingly slow and there were definitely many years of testing but it did come.
No he is completely wrong
1 John 5:13 says we know we are saved. Winger has no idea if he is saved if he believes his preaching
@@kM-ij2ly "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."
1 John 5:13
What things did John write?
1 John 1:6
"If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"
1 John 2:3-6
"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
1 John 2:29
"If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him."
1 John 3:6-10
"Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."
A very obvious recurring theme in the book of 1 John is that we may know we have eternal life because our works and the Spirit are proof that we did believe and were saved.
Why do you think that Paul in 2 Corinthians 13:5 gives the command to examine if you are in the faith?
"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"
Right on. These folks don't understand the difference between works for salvation, and works as a result of salvation.
What if you died before you reached the place where you are today? Like yesterday?
@@shawnjaillet568 he clearly said, after 18 years of being saved, meaning that he was saved the whole 18 years prior to reaching this point.
Very important topic for believers especially, Thanks mate for choosing this ❤
Ain't that the truth, if Paul is admonishing Christians and begging them to not live that way, that means that they could possibly live that way. Do these guys that teach this stuff even take an honest look at themselves. When I read these verses from the apostle Paul he just is touching on a few sins. And people that have a bunch of pride in their ability jump all over these.......look look see, I'm mostly living like a Christian. They use themselves to judge each other and they use each other as a measuring stick. And on top of that I don't think they're being honest about the sins that are mentioned. The standard is perfection, absolute perfection we can either be perfect ourselves, or we trust in the one who is perfect for us, there's no in between.
I am assuming you ever judge others then.
I spent many years in Calvary Chapel listening to this kind of preaching and could never lay hold of assurance. You nailed it on the head.
I think this man is genuinely confused himself.. he is trying to work through it and is struggling like we all do but I think he should have left it alone honestly.. however you are so right! Keep it up! I’m so happy I have found this channel! My anxiety is so much better I actually have that true joy!
I noticed that too. He’s trying to explain things but is obviously lost. I guess I don’t blame him for that though because when you live by the way he was explaining you’ll always have to wonder which of course isn’t Gods plan for us. Sadly he probably isn’t sure if his salvation.
Wisdom begins with fear of the Lord. We must always be afraid that we have failed to secure our salvation. The moment we feel any assurance is the moment we have surely lost it.
Constant fear is the best sign that we are in a loving relationship.
I just want to make sure... the Bible says not to partake in sinful acts but because we as humans are by nature to be sinful, are we still considered saved even though we still sin and do unclean things? I struggle on a daily basis with this and have been praying about this. It feels like I fall to temptation daily but I still believe in Christ with all my heart mind and strength. I feel guilty doing the acts but like I feel like I can't help myself
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Yes, you are still saved. The only way to conquer those sins is to lay them at Gods feet. Come before Him, confess the sin and ask him to handle it. The only way we can fight sin is thru the power of God. You are feeling conviction from the Holy Spirit. I struggled for 6 years with smoking. I prayed and prayed and prayed about it. I got rid of my cigarettes. I still thought about it all the time. I finally said “God, I can’t do this on my own. I need you to take this from me. I need your help with this sin because I can’t stop on my own.” I turned from the sin, by getting rid of the things that were making smoking easy for me, but every-time I thought about smoking, I’d pray about it and the desire would leave. I’m far from perfect but now I don’t smoke. It’s a process.
@@Jesusandcoffee3382buddy i hate to break it to you but smoking is not a sin 😂
@@konkoor881it’s still not good. Even secular people know this
@meganinjaskill you aren't alone I struggle too and with ocd I pray God helps me too I often feel defeated and upset sinning against God may God help us both.
Again thank you for making these videos. Once saved always saved.
We have the Kingdom of God I believe already inside us because we have trusted in the Blood of Jesus for our salvation.
Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Also, you have an appropriate sense of humor on these matters. I laughed when you said, " The Scary Zone, whatever that is"
Tbh, I believe Mike Winger is a brother. Just confused as many saved people are when they’re attacked with intellectualism and works based heresy. Its easy to do when engaging with the words of so many “scholarly” men. Also, loving the beard😎
He talks grace through faith, says it's not by works, yet immediately declares that to receive the gift of salvation you must repent of your sins and give your life to Christ.
Double talking, fruit inspecting, devil.
Have you read Matthew that's how your saved. Repentance is a change of mind about sin and faith is putting that mind towards christ in believing
He is Lordship salvation false teacher. He doesn't believe in Jesus for everlasting life that is irrevocable.
@@americodiloretto217that is definitely not true of Mike Winger.
@thanosman3491 John 3:16 and John 3:36 said it clear! Therefore, Acts 16:31..." believeth on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved", that's good enough!!!
I really like Mike Winger. I think he's a good guy, but I don't agree with him about everything. Thank you for countering his message with love and Biblical Truths. ❤
Winger has no idea if he is even saved therefore he is an unsaved devil
Amen, Mike Winger does his best to think biblically about topics and I appreciate him instructing his viewers to not take his word but to pray and read the Bible concerning most issues.
Mike preaches a false repent of your sins Gospel, therefore mark and avoid...
The Gospel is not a secondary issue...
@@AdamJoseph1352 you’re a weirdo.
@@kM-ij2lyI’m not sure how you can come to that conclusion considering only God knows your heart
While I would generally consider Mike Winger a brother in Christ, (just as lost and confused as so many,) I find the way he goes through some questions in his regular Q+A videos to be almost dismissive. If it sounds like a simple topic or a like an emotional question, he'll usually get this "holier than thou" tone when the question could have very much been sincere. Not writing this to gripe about him, but it's something that's seemed off to me in the past.
talk about subjective. No one is perfect. What is more important is the soundness of the teachings. No one is perfect in this area either and I don't think Mike Winger is being purposefully deceptive when he might be wrong theologically.
I died with Christ. He is my life, I am hid in Him. I have to trust in His mercy through the Truth of He is my Savior.
Beautiful. I love Mike Wingers ministry but this is the Biblically accurate reading of the text. We're all sinners and nobody gets it right all the time. If a sex addict comes to Christ he may struggle with his addiction for a long, long, long time. If works are not for salvation, they cannot prove salvation. Examine your faith (trust) in God. Those who trust Him, will be with Him.
I might be missing something, but I think that is what Mike was actually saying. As an outside observer that does not know another person's heart, Mike is saying there are people that profess to be believers that he could not say definitely in a guess if they are a Christian or not. If one says they are a believer and truly Trusts in God, they will repent, go to God and move away from sin. We are not completely removed, but we will bear fruit. It won't have anything to do with our salvation, but as a new creation in Christ, that is what Godly people will do. As an outside observer, people probably thought Judas was a true follower of Jesus. There is no indication in terms of action that Judas was not a true believer. He was not acting like a pharisee or anything. He was following Jesus but clearly he was not a true believer. So even in that sense, we can deceive potentially not only ourselves and clearly the outside world.
@@danielkim672 The Bible says Judas was a devil from the start. It also says a devil entered into him when he went to get the pharisees.
@@CaptainPantys Yes, the Bible teaches us that, but during the time Judas followed Christ, there is no other of the 12 that were questioning whether Judas was a true follower. Outside of God, who inspired the Words we see in Scripture, everyone else believed Judas was one of the core 12, a true follower of Jesus.
@danielkim672 Ah, yes I see what you're saying now. I guess the flip side of that could also happen though. Someone could be living like a total deviant or something, and it would look like they're definitely not a christian. But they trust in Christ and are therefore saved.
@@CaptainPantys Yes i agree with you that there are certainly saved people, true Christians that if you or I saw their lives, they wouldn't looked like they were saved. This is where Mike is saying if you are in this group, it would be ideal to move away from this and produce better Godly fruit. It is sound advice to follow Jesus more closely, not any proclamation that works is what saves. As a Christian, anything that we can do to be more like Jesus, that is running the right type of race.
I think Mike's position is reasonable. Remember, he said if you're in that "scary, fuzzy zone", the person may not have ever been saved, not that the person possibly WAS saved and might lose their salvation. If you listen carefully to everything Mike said, I have to agree with him. Of course you are never sinless, even after true salvation. But if your life is NOT changed at all after a confession of faith, with no shame or guilt, nor chastisement regarding your sin, then I would worry about the genuineness of that confession. But remember also, we are talking about other people's perception of another's salvation claim. Of course only God is the final true judge of anyone's salvation. It is virtually impossible for us to judge with absolute certainty another person's true position of salvation. It is not possible for any human to completely know another humans heart. We don't even know our OWN heart. "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Is there a point at which we really can create a "license to sin" situation? I don't know.
The "license to sin" quip is overly tired. The fact of the matter is you, I, and everyone else are sinners. We were born that way and we die that way. No amount of perceived holiness will change that. Faith in Jesus Christ to wipe away your sin debt is your only holiness. It is finished. Done. Complete. Nothing more. Have a nice day!
The Spirit KNOWS The Spirit! And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with lifestyle! Yes,the Spirit impacts are Lifestyle Choices but it Still has nothing to do with what WE DO! And Everything to Do With what WE ARE! IN CHRIST JESUS! FAITH IS A STATE OF BEING! NOT A STATE OF ACTION! (EVEN THOUGH ONES FAITH INFLUENCES ONES ACTIONS) God bless you 🙏❤
The bible tells us we'll know fellow Christians by their "fruits". But we're all works in progress. We won't be sinless until we are with our Saviour.
Actually, know " them"... " them" is false prophets/teachers.
@@sunnydaze1185 True. But a true Christian should show evidence by their words that they are changed - even if their actions are slower to change.
@@rev.dr.yvonneray2035 Possibly...if they speak the true gospel . Grace through Faith in who Christ is and what He did( his death burial and resurrection) and what it accomplished. But technically, only God can really, really know a person’s standing( saved or not) by knowing our inward heart.
We will struggle with sin as long as we are in the flesh the flesh and spirit fight against each other Paul spoke on this the good that I want to do I don't practice and the things I don't want to do I practice
This was really good, thank you and may God bless you.
Could you folks say a prayer for me? I was years in legalism and it still has an impact on me and how I relate to God. I went into galatian 3 and 5 error in lordship salvation. Because of it and other things of life my mental side has not still been good. I have had panic attacks and dealt with it and depression with meds in my past. Now I have at times tried to alleviate my mental agony with sin which is not justified I just am depressed which makes it difficult to have an interest in anything. With all of my heart I hope I would get out of this mess, live in Christ's will, and just learn by renewing of my mind and increasing faith in Christ to see Jesus as all in all more, not how I perform. There is so many things I would wanna do but depression is in the way and will for life is diminished. If you may be kind to pray In highly appreciate it. Thank you
Praying.. I was in the same position as you. Actually I still suffer from depression and anxiety and addiction. This channel has helped me a lot. It's very hard when you're emotionally feeling down. May God Bless you and keep you. May He show you that you're saved, by believing in Him alone! Not by any thing you can add to it. Stand firm in the faith. Let God lead you out of your depression. You be you and let God be Him. You are saved, because you have believed in Jesus, Amen...
Believe the Gospel we read in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 which is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and God will take care of the rest regardless of how you feel.
When I feel anxiety coming on I ask God my Father to give me His peace and joy and He does this every time.
Thanks for you both:)
Depression is a sin that you need to repent of. It's also a wilful choice - you choose to be depressed. You have a free will and can either choose to live your life in misery and depression, or you can choose to be happy and thankful in the Lord. The choice is yours.
(Proverbs 15:15) All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.
I pray you are healed in Jesus Christ name! God bless and keep you! Read John. Read Luke.
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Good stuff. Appreciate you exposing the lies and contending for the gospel
According to Acts 17:30, we must ALL repent of our sins in order to be saved! What determines if we get into Heaven is whether or not we are obedient to the Lord and his commands, as Jesus showed us in Matthew 7:21-23.
God's Plan of Salvation
Hear the Gospel. (Romans 10:17, John 8:32)
Believe the Gospel (Hebrews 11:6, John 20:31)
Repent of past sins (Luke 13:3, Acts 17:30)
Confess faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:10, Matthew 10:32)
Be Baptized (Galatians 3:27, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38)
Be faithful unto death (Revelation 2:10)
@@Worship_Universe you are trusting in yourself, not in Christ to get to heaven
Winger: "You're not saved by how you live. But if you're truly saved, your life will show it." Of course he thinks his life shows how holy he is which means HIS faith and salvation are genuine. But YOU...well not so much...cuz you're not as holy as squeeky clean Mike Winger the Calvinist Pharisee Fruit Inspector...
Oh wow, You do not know Mike Winger do you. He is far from a Calvinist. You should check his videos on him disagreeing with the 5 points of Calvinism. Do you disagree with James that a truly saved person will have good Works? Since we do not know a person's heart, the only way to know if one might even be a Christian is by the fruits. That does not save, but it is a sign. Without it, there is a good chance it never was. I mean Judas showed plenty of works but was clearly never a Christian.There are many people that say they believe in Jesus, but deceive themselves. That is true for the 1st century and true today.
Last month, my pastor said, "If you don't pray, you're not saved." What I heard was, "If you don't pray enough, you're not saved," and I haven't been back. I want to find another church. Last year, he said if you can't control your eating and are overweight, it's a sign you don't have the fruit of self control, which means you don't have the Spirit, so I was already wary.
Yet his public prayers ask God to forgive us for the lies and sexual lusts we HAVE committed the past week. I rarely ever lie, as it's one of the 7 things the Lord HATES. I also don't struggle with lusting over people, so I always flinch hard when he says it.
He seems very unbalanced, and I don't know how to ask him about it.
Before I watch, I’m glad you’re addressing this video!!!
I understand that as believers, we preach against sin. People like Mike Winger make the mistake of not learning Romans 7. Believers have the new birth, but we still have the old nature, the old unredeemed part of us. God has made no provision to reform the flesh or improve it. It can not be improved. Why is it not good enough for people like Mike Winger to simply preach against sin to fellow believers because it is God's will for His children to walk in the Spirit? God wants us to overcome sin in our lives to grow us up and reward us at the Bema.
This kind of nonsense keeps believers afraid and it actually stifles growth. God seems to think that grace and love are better motivators than fear for living the Christian life. You will spend all of your time trying to figure out who is saved (or whether you yourself are saved) every time you have a failing in your walk with God. We are not fruit inspectors of other believers.
I don't think his video was bad.
Paul clearly wrote in his letter to the Corinthians that it's was non of his business to judge people outside the church. His always warning people inside the church.
From watching hours upon hours of brother Mike's believes. His views are very consistent. The question is what is belief. What does belief mean to you when you say, "I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ." When channels only talk about ''exposing'' false doctrine I automatically question their doctrine.
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Hey Ono... Mike was saying that it's difficult to tell who is truly a Christian. He wasn't saying anyone in this "scary zone" isn't saved. He's saying we can't tell but a Christian in that position shouldn't remain in that place..i.e.. the scary zone.
Listening to Mike Winger brings back church PTSD. So glad God set me free and I can spot false teachings (like from Mr. Winger) from 100 miles away using Gods word. I’m so glad I don’t have to ask him “hey man do YOU think I’m saved?”
Mike Winger is extremely sound.. listen to his messages
Jesus said you would know them by their fruit.
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Ono fears no man.
I watched a bank robbery on television and had no temptation to rob a bank.
No, your life will change from the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which will produce works. The book of James tells us as much. Jesus also said that if you love him you will follow his commands. Our walk with Christ will conform us to Christ’s image so long as we follow Christ. Yes you are forgiven and saved when you become a regenerate Christian but you can still grieve the Holy Spirit and stifle the Holy Spirits work in your life through sin. Mike Winger is a wonderful teacher who preaches a the gospel.
Even if you grieve the Holy Spirit you are still saved. Salvation is one time only because Jesus died one time. But there’s a consequence of sins. You’re not going to received blessings here on earth, physical death, eternal rewards but you’re still going to heaven. That’s how powerful the work of Christ on cross. If you doubt that than you are not saved to begin with because you’re basically calling God a liar.
@@StiffShot that sounds Calvinistic, are you a Calvinist? I would say I am a mixture between Calvinism and Arminianism.
@@greysinferno8214 no I’m not a Calvinist. I’m a born again believer in Christ.
@@greysinferno8214 Free grace theology doesn't fall under the false dichotomy of Calvinism vs Arminianism.
There are some differences in opinion about rewards and chastisement within some groups of free grace believers but ultimately the core belief is we're once justified/saved always justified/saved by faith/trust/belief in Jesus' sacrifice for our sins, His death burial and resurrection for us. We cannot lose salvation.
We believe that once we first believed/trusted in Jesus for eternal life, we received the atonement (Jesus' shed Blood for us) on our accounts and are saved/atoned for, sealed unto the day of redemption by the Holy Spirit of Promise (God cannot lie) and that there is chastisement from God and rewards from God for our behavior. Believers have the choice whether or not they follow the Spirit and bear fruit/rewards or not. We do not believe are under the law but are dead to the law through Jesus Christ's death burial and resurrection. We have been given New Spirits that cannot sin and God dwells within us. If we follow the Spirit, we will make good, Holy, and righteous decisions. If we follow our flesh, we can reap bad fruit in our life and even death from God's chastisement.
We believe that all people have a choice whether or not they accept Jesus and believers have a choice after they're saved whether or not they obey Jesus/God.
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
@@nicholasisaiah53john316 Hold on, you need to define your terms. What do you mean by free grace theology, Arminianism, and Calvinism in this context. Also, your assertion that it is a false dichotomy between Calvinism and Arminianism. Would you explain why it is a false dichotomy?
God bless you my brother!
Can you do a video expounding upon 1st Peter 1:5 it's a passage of scripture that I feel so many over look. How Peter talks about our Heavenly incorruptible inheritance that is "for you who are Kept by the power of God through Faith for a Salvation ready to be revealed in the last days".
I am the fuzzy person he's talking about. I trust Jesus alone for salvation & am going to heaven because of who He is and what He already did, not what I do. That being said, I am currently fruitless and living in sin. Am I happy? Absolutely not - I'm out of fellowship with my Father. Am I going to heaven if I die? Yes, because Jesus paid my sin debt in full.
I generally like Winger’s content…his series on the Passion mistranslation is great. But Ono man…I love how you do this with the Christian CZcams community and keep it real brother. God bless! 🙏✝️♥️
Winger preaches a false gospel clearly
He has no idea if he is saved
Mike indeed does preach a false Gospel, you should mark and avoid. The Gospel is not a secondary issue.
@@AdamJoseph1352 oh my, what part is this false gospel Mike preaches?
@@kM-ij2ly Mike has a clear idea if he is saved.
@@danielkim672 Not according to his words.
I guess the key word is "should." Paul, in his letters, wrote to believers, instructing them, how they "should" live their lives, in light of the fact that they had received the gift of salvation. IF all believers lived spotless lives, reflecting being new creations, I assume there wouldn't have been a big need for Paul to write his letters, unless there were just 100% words of praise, etc.
I just watched Wingers video a couple days ago. I thought you’d be coming for him haha.
Ono is not perfect either and I think he is wrong here. Mike is not teaching someone that is a true believer could lose their salvation but he is indeed questioning, as an outsider that does not know the heart of a human, only God does, that if one commits the same sin and say even worse, were they even a believer to begin with. That is a legit question. Mike is not saying that is a clear sign that person is not a believer, but it is a question that even James asks.
@@danielkim672I’ve recently discovered Ono, and while I enjoy the message I’ll be honest I think he just wants the smoke.
@@wowitsfrostygames155 I am not sure if Ono 'wants the smoke', but I think he is focused on Biblically correct wrong doctrine being spewed out here on CZcams. I commend him for that I am hope more people come across his videos as the ones I watch, his theology is sound Biblically. No one is perfect so I am sure sometimes he gets the intentions of the person he is responding to or the meaning of what that person is saying incorrectly. I believe he misunderstood Mike Winger here.
Faith is the only righteous thing that I can do. 𝗥𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝟲:𝟭, "𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘄𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻? 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘄𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝘂𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘀𝗶𝗻, 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗴𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝘆 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱?” As believers we always fall "in grace" but never "from grace." The more that we choose to sin as saints, the more God's saving grace will abound, so that we can NEVER lose God's free gift of eternal life. The lost person who trusts in partial faith in Christ plus keeping the law (aka, "turn away from your sinful ways" to be saved) has fallen from grace (Galatians 5;4).
Thank Father God Lord Jesus Christ for this video and bless channel ❤
How do people function day to day with these uncertain fuzzy doctrines. How are they not terrified of hell every moment of every day
Fear, doubt, scared are all things of the devil. Salvation is a FREE gift. These fruit inspectors are acting like a god of some sort. Pointing out the splinter in your eye when they have a log in their own.
Ephesians 2:8-9 & John 3:16 to be saved...
Only thing to technically fear is chastisement from God when backsliding but far as losing salvation impossible. Holy Spirit seals you till the day of redemption Ephesians 4:30
Mike did not teach in this video one can lose their salvation. Nor has he ever taught that in his other videos.
@@danielkim672 you like his video’s
Just because a person is saved and makes it to Heaven, doesn’t mean they will escape earthly consequences from committing said sin(s). On another note, I like your Eddy profile picture.
@@bighand1530 I've experience chastisement before it's not fun. People who say there's no consuqence to sin in osas has never been on the receiving end of spiritual discipline before.
Ps thanks Ed edd n Eddy is one of my favorites cartoon shows lol
@@robbycricket6611 I can relate. There is that. No problem.
WOW!!! What a mental work job on someone who's seeking the Lord. Just terrible. Thank you for this video, God bless.
something has always resonated as false and unsure about Mike, good guy on the surface, totally false
totally false, gotcha SMH
@@danielkim672 you can't preach a partial false gospel, its false lordship nonsense
@@LarryLarpwell What part of what Mike said preaching a partial false gospel? Please be specific and quote him.
@@danielkim672 you sound like a pharisee, why would you even ask that when you just watched a video of it? lol
Just believe (aka repent means to change your mind about) Jesus Who died for you (1 Cor. 15:1-4) and you are saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13-14) forever! No one can pluck you out of the Father's hand. (John 10:29)
The fact is true faith results in a changed life.
yeah ok buddy. another self righteous person
@@stevewaldman371
Read 2 John.
If my works of righteousness are needed for salvation, I give up. I cannot reach the perfection of Christ, it is impossible. Thankfully Jesus saves us by his righteousness, because of his fulfillment of the law, because of his sacrifice on the cross and resurrection.
BEARD GANG IN FULL EFFECT
2 Corinthians 13:5 "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realise that Christ Jesus is in you, unless, of course, you fail the test?" A good book I recommend is 'the assurance of our salvation' by Dr Martyn Lloyd Jones - it explains everything you need to know.
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keep growing out that beard bro looks good
How ones life "generally apears" is about thier testimony to others. If one wants to take a guess and call them saved or unsaved, you can do that if you want. How many would have guessed wrong about the thief on the cross, who was receiving the death penalty for his life of crime. The bottom line is God sees the heart and man looks at outward appearance.
Amen. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Mike needs to be really scared . And what's this about "degrees" of sin . God demands 100% perfection .
I believe that Jesus Christ is the prophesied Son of God
Mike Wringer just exposed himself as a subtle Lordship Salvationist and is causing baby in faiths to doubt their own salvation. It's wicked. I was reading the comments section of his video the other day and so many are worried they're not saved, it saddens me. Thank you for exposing the unfruitful works of darkness into the light brother. May God bless you 🙏❤️
lol that isn't even remotely true
You clearly have trouble with basic comprehension of English if you believe that.
Kind of pathetic.
Thank you for another excellent video. God bless you man. Love the beard!
Thanks for bringing up this
Preacher is most likely belong to lordship salvation
Once saved always saved
Thank Jesus for grace and salvation by faith and not by works lest one should boast.
I ❤️ Once Saved Always Saved.
Your last comments are exactly Mike's point by the way, you guys literally said the same thing. God bless!
Also Eph 2:8-10 explains perfectly the place of works in salvation. not to earn, but to prove as they've been prepared.
These apologists do great work to provide a defense for Christ’s death and resurrection yet sadly most of them are unsaved and deceived with a false gospel
Wow filled with a false sense of pride much?
Wow, most of them unsaved, interesting. Pharisee much?
Good morning! Is there a chance that someone just doesn’t truly really believe and that’s why nothing changes? I say that because I know I truly believe and am saved, and I have given up a lot of things because I love God. Just trying to make sure I understand! Thank you everyone!
Of course, it’s possible that many who experience little to no change are not true believers. The same can be said of those who experience a great amount of lifestyle change. Only God and the individual know whether or not they are truly trusting in Christ alone.
Thank you! Your videos are very helpful!
Hi! What do you think about 1John 5:18 in relation to salvation? Thanks!
That's NOT our job to decide if someone is saved; that belongs to God! You can and should discern whether or not to socialize with them if they are doing things that might be sinful, that is okay
I understand what Mike is trying to say. And yes, saved people shouldn't like the the unsaved world. For my life however, I deceived myself about salvation by thinking I was good with God by works I did such as doing good things and serving in the church, along with doing an altar call back in 2005 when I was in the second grade. Fast forward to 2020 and to today, its still the struggle of how would I know I'm truly Christian if most of the teaching I heard can never really give me assurance of salvation because it says look for evidence and etc, which is something I totally understand and agree with. I have seen the 10 point or X point test to see if you're saved and listened to sermons on real Christianity and saving faith and counterfeit faith. This struggle of trying to figure out if my faith is real or not unfortunately has robbed me of my peace and a lot of this struggle ties back to when I did deceive myself. I have started out in the Lordship crowd cause in the past I saw nothing wrong with it, for I thought that was real saving faith. Yes I was in the faith without works is dead crowd as well but right now, i been researching into what James 2:14 was actually talking about due to different definitions i keep hearing about that verse. I did listen to Lordship teachers as well. I do believe ones life should change after they're saved and if it doesn't then that raises serious question of their conversion. But in my life, I guess I'm trying to ask, am I believing in the sacrifice of the Cross with "heart belief" or "intellectual belief"? What is the evidence of me having "heart belief"? Lately i just been thinking about over and over again about the blood of Christ and the simplicity of the gospel. I don't want to worry about my salvation like this no longer.
What does John 3:16 say? Do you believe that verse?
@@thevulture5750 yes
@@thevulture5750 yes. But to give you more insight, if someone has trusted the blood of Christ, then there will be fruit. Atleast that’s what majority of believers think
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John 15:1-5
1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
How could you have fruit without Christ?
@@thevulture5750 there are people that might think they believe that in themselves but have deceived themselves too.And from an outside observer, it is hard to tell too. During the years Judas was following Jesus, do you believe Judas did not show Godly deeds and works? There i no indication until the end about Judas' desception and that he was never a true Christian believer. There are plenty of people out there that are doing 'God's work' that are doing it for own selfish ambitions purely that are not true believers for sure.