As an Arsenal Fan, how I see the Casemiro challenge is as red. Purely because, he jumps into the challenge with both feet of the ground, meaning he is out of control and ends up catching his shin. However I also believe the Chelsea game was worse and fully deserved a red. Your correct, itâs the inconsistency thatâs the problem.
This has been happening to Arsenal with these decisions for Years and everyone just said we cried, the refs tried to affect us this season but now theyâve seen itâs not working they are balancing out all the decisions given in Uniteds favour to not get caught for corruption for no reason
Exactly if the offside goal by Brentford would have been disallowed by VAR, Arsenal would be 7 points ahead of City. And there is no excuse for VAR not checking an offside goal, it's just corrupt.
@@nicob.4607 The refs protect Bruno, Martinez and even Mctominay. sorry United thought an experienced player like Casemiro to be responsible shows how little they know about him as heâs always played like this. That is a red card 60% of times where as Arsenal get reds for challenges you get sent of 30% of times
In the Europa game against Real betis i think Hernandez should have seen Red with that tackle against the realbetis player that to me was a stone wall Red card, i don't hear anyone talk about it
@@prateekparmar7138 nah that's cap. he said if arsenal are still within touching distance of man city with less than 6 points (basically challenging for the league) by the end of the season then he'll give arteta credit
It was clearly a red. C'mon Utd fans, you would have said the same thing if it was the other way. And these are the same fans complaining about VAR being blind.
Definitely a red, whether there was intent or not. The consistency thing is difficult, because a different referee in another game may see a similar incident differently.
I've watched the VAR review of Casemiro's tackle 10 times and all the 10 times, I think it is red. It was a very reckless tackle and the Saint player was very lucky not to get a broken leg. Red card 110%
If Real Madrid was ever fairly refed, the number of title would have been greatly reduced since the loss of Ramos and Pape would have been constant. Casamiro is the same. El Blancos get away with such dirty play and it does not fly in other leagues.
@@erikraudssen6777 Lol, PL is is a princess leuage. You THINK its tuff, its not. There isnt a single leuage on the planet that have so many intreruptions by the referee as in PL.
I agree with what you said. Its only brought into question bc some don't get called. There is a massive difference between the shown examples and what Casemiro did however. He did a LUNGING tackle, leaving the ground with both feet, getting the top of the ball(Goldbridge was generous with his positioning of the contact, Casemiro was actually MUCH higher on the ball. Essentially skimming it) and full forcing the studs into the leg of someone basically running in his direction. So its opposing forces meeting making it even worse. If he does a reach poke with studs(like in the examples shown), that'd maybe be a yellow at worst, but the lunge and how high his foot was on contact, just looked sloppy and deserving of the red card. I will say this though, they REALLY need to get away with showing SLO-MO REPLAYS!! Everything should be shown in real time with the benefit of VAR being more about seeing it either for the first time bc you missed it when it happened, or again with multiple camera angles provided. I think slowing it down does nothing for the actual assessment of the invent other than exaggerating the actual event. We also need to get away from saying "he won the ball first". When something like this happens, getting the ball is almost irrelevant. Say, if someone goes in and makes contact clearly with the ball first and then raises their leg, so studs make contact with someone's thigh. You're going to see a card.
Why is Lee sounding humble now đ€Ł đ that weâre winning watch when we lose lmao I hope we donât đ€ but watch how he changes his tune if we even drop points once đ
I respect you because you stand up for us Arsenal fans when the ref ran us and you did saying that you not supporting those ref's actions because only in a few days the same will happen and as you say it happens.
I ain't an Man Utd fan but Casemiro's sending off was the correct decision. There has to be zero tolerance with these challenges/tackles because they could be potentially career ending and life affecting for the players on the receiving end of them. It's just the most dangerous tackle there is. I do understand that it looks like Casemiro bends his leg and doesnt seem to put alot of force into his tackle. But, there has to be zero tolerance because if you start taking it case by case where do you draw the line? ZERO TOLERANCE. Players just need to keep their feet/studs down!
I think it is red. It is unlucky , those tackles usually donât get a red card but why I think it is red is because of how the Southampton leg goes. It literally looks to be close to breaking. I got that feeling you get when you see a big injury. It turned my stomach. Thatâs why it is red, it is unlucky but Casemiro is responsible of that potential season ending injury
Does that mean that he has now accepted that the Arsenal squad was a complete shambles when Arteta took over, and it was going to take a major overhaul to put it right? From my viewpoint, Iâm delighted that Arteta has so far proved all of the doubters wrong. The best team in the league, on top on merit and playing lovely football.
Arteta out arsenal fans did not realise how bad the squad was in terms of actual player quality and the culture of complacency and laziness we had before Arteta. That overhaul was always going to take time. I personally write the first two seasons off because we had so many poor players.
There's LITERALLY a dozen tackles over the last two season from United players that should have had red cards and did not, usually from Mctominay. United only got Europa League last year because of favourable decisions, they only got CL in 19/20 because of favourable decisions. Absolute last club in the entire world who should be complaining about such things. People say you buy the refs off because that's exactly what it looks like
It was a red card but the issue is the inconsistency in refereeing. Some of such tackles are allowed some get red just like the tackle against Felix in the Chelsea Vs Leicester match.
You gave 2 examples where the defender had a foot planted so they had some control i.e they wouldn't break a leg like that. Casemiro jumped studs up in to the challenge which is way more dangerous.
Mmmkay, i have one foot planted and do a Bruce Lee in your face with my other foot = not dangerous according to you.đ€Šđ€Šđ€Š Btw, you need to read up on how physics work. Its not the force of the offender but the momentum of the offendee that brakes legs.
@@Maax1200 mmm kay. If you have a foot planted you can control the force you idiot. i.e You can pull out. You can't pull out if you have both feet off the ground. Maybe your dad should've pulled out too
As a gunner myself, I didn't think Casemiro deserved a red for it. Too me it looked as if his foot bounced up off the ball after winning the ball cleanly 1st. Great content as always Terry.
What you can say about the Pereira and Van Dijk tackles is they didnt leave their feet. That is a tangible difference. However, having said that, Royal received a red against Martinelli for very much the same style of tackle.
Smh ... Casemiro is not fully in control of his actions as he made the decision to leave ground and take to the air with his studs up. Those types of tackles can cause broken legs to the opposing player, especially if proper contact is not made with the ball ... And there wasn't proper contact in that tackle. So that's a deservedly straight red card
I see what goldridge is saying but it's how he jumped into the tackle that was potentially dangerous. Red for me. There is no consistency and if anything var has made it worse. Great channel. Up the Gunners. đ€đ»
A lack of consistency is the thing that drives us all mad but thatâs a red all day long. If your studs go into someoneâs shins thatâs a red (as the other examples shown should have been). As an Arsenal fan I still have pdst from so many leg breaks on our players.
I've seen people bring up the Leicester game and just because they made the wrong choices on Saturday it doesn't mean they should make the wrong choice on Sunday.
Fuck that guy, like we dont have the sane trauma, but majority of us have healed when our young boys burst on the scene and gave us hope and belief again.
The red card for Casemiro, in my opinion, was definitely right. The inconsistency argument is a red herring. You can't justify a bad challenge by saying other bad challenges weren't punished. The David DeGea interview was far more illuminating than the Ten Hag one. DeGea said Casemiro was a bit unlucky but it could have been worth a red card. When your team mate says something like that it is like an opponent asking for a ten match ban. Ten Hag also tried to make some sort of argument that Casemiro had never been sent off before coming to England so it was clearly down to the officials. If someone is convicted of murder when they are 30 it isn't a defence to say he never committed murder for 30 years so the legal profession must be at fault. It also may just mean he never got caught before.
Think Casemiro is unlucky but itâs a red. Both Perreira and VVDâs were reds too. Handballs this season are the most egregious for me. I actually have no idea what constitutes a handball after Arsenal vs Bournemouth, UTD vs Southampton and Chelsea West Ham then Liverpool get that one on Saturday
Totally unbiased opinion. I think it was probably a red. Not because he missed the ball but he had both feet off the floor. If you dive in and miss, it's a red. Before you say he didn't, watch the replay - not the stills.
The inconsistency in the "where is the consistency" argument is that both tackles you compare to, the player didnt completely leave their feet like Case did.
@@braxtonmay391 of course it is, studs is studs, doesnt matter what position the player is in, open studs on the opponent is usally red. Irrelevent if he is frozen in time or flying like a seagull.
Casemiro Red Card was the right call. Studs over the top into the standing leg after leaping into the challenge. He purposely kept his foot high in case he missed the ball. Any Premier League player knows how to tackle and not let your studs go over the top of the ball.
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For me that is a 100% straight red, if your studs are up and its above the ankle. Regardless whether it's follow through or no ball, all Cas had to do was point his studs to the floor and the max he would have got was a yellow. Yes there has been inconsistentcies throughout the league but does that mean we start ruling them all wrong now since others have been. For me it's as cold cut as that
I think it was a red, jumped into the tackle with studs showing and would have hit high on his ankle Iâd the ball hadnât of deflected his foot higher, clear red by the rules
Watch thisâŠ..! đđ that usher gets me every time đ°ïž he still ainât earned his ticket on the Funvee yet tho. đ heâs gonna have to remain loyal Arteta has done the work and it is clear we are a totally different animal with players that wanna play and players that wanna come to thrive here itâs what more do you want Lee. đđ
I remember when we beat sevilla and vhelsea in pre season Tierry said Arsenal look scary and said i am scared.. he hasnt stopped saying... keep praising them and hopefully that get it over the 1ine đ
Lots of people bantering and happy about the Man Utd ish i think is because when we kept getting all the bad decisions, rival fans kept doing same thing to arsenal fans instead of calling out the bad refereeing. We need to get to a point where aside the banter/bantering of each other get to hold and call out the officials and the officiating body
Itâs harsh but itâs a red⊠the corruption comes into play when you look at the red that shouldâve been given to Southampton and the 2 pens⊠Welcome to the life of an Arsenal fan over the past 5 years
I do think it was a red. He jump tackled the ball (took a risk and it didnât pay off). So thatâs why you call it unlucky (based on the fact that if it was a clear jumping tackle then it would be fine). You can 100% complain about inconsistency but that doesnât make Man Utd red invalid
I can understand the argument by Terry comparing non-red card fouls vs Casemiro's foul. It's frustrating to see one team get away with a yellow another with a red and Leicester getting away with nothing. There's no real argument to downplay the VVD and Ricardo fouls, but when Casemiro connects with the defender 30cm off the ground which his leg angled up, there is literally no single argument which detracts from the foul being a red! If he had bodily control, he wouldn't catch the player halfway up his shin, if he'd contained the ball and actually "won" it, it wouldn't bounce off the standing leg of the player. It's so glaringly foul play, it's crazy that's even a discussion! That said I do believe VVD should have seen red and Ricardo at least a yellow purely because the angle of the foul wasn't going to risk cause in the same level of injury as the other two. I've seen Xhaka sent off for far less though đŽ
Its a red, but just so inconsistent. Mark is right with the chelsea game and those tackles, cause they are worse, however the casermiro one is also a red
Of course there are inconsistencies, however such challenges sometimes are red and sometimes yellow. Ultimately it comes down to an individual referee's judgement
Casamiro was a SENDING OFF every day of the week. He left his feet, studs showing, over the ball (yes, his foot bounced over the ball, but accidents get punished all the time). I would like ANYONE to tell me how the combo of those three does not warrant a direct red.
Goldbridge looks like he's never played a half of football in his life, yet he's out here nerdsplaining a dirty tackle. The state of some of these influencers.
We donât want the credit. At the start of the season they doubted us and made all sort of excuses for us winning a game. Our opponents were never good enough and we were cruising. Then they started to think we could do it and we had some bad results. The doubts came again and we are cruising. Please retain the credit until we lift the trophy. End ofâŠ
That's a red all day. He leaves the ground with both feet, studs up, skims the ball and luckily doesn't squarely hit the players shin. A couple more inches and he breaks his leg
As an Arsenal fan, I do feel for cassimero as he did connect with the ballâŠ. BUTâŠ. The combination of the follow through with studs up above the ankle, and both feet left the groundâŠ. If xhaka did it, it would be a red too but letâs be honest, the refs are SHOCKING in this league⊠the only consistency in this league is the inconsistencyâŠ.
Pep is quality but at the same time he has never managed a team that wasn't clearly the best team in the league & best managers get best jobs but I've always wondered how would he do managing a team like mine (arsenal) or a dortmund.
The united fan freaking out asking how is that a red card has deliberately chosen a frame that does not depict the incident. He is surely lying to everyone. the follow through was very high and was studs to shin. It was a red card. The idea that the player wasn't that hurt is irrelevant. Terry you need to call this out as well.
I think it's right to call out poor officiating but only when you have real substance to go off of. Havent heard a single good argument resulting from the casemiro decision and it really weakens arguments against actual bad calls
Itâs a Red for Casemiro but UTD shouldâve had 2 pens and palace shouldâve also had a red for the blatant handball if he donât handball it Weghorst scores. Just so people donât think itâs bias or anything Iâm an Arsenal fan
It's a straight red no if ands or buts reckless challenge however I completely understand why utd fans are upset it's the inconsistency in these decisions when teams are getting away with it and others aren't it's ruining the integrity of the league
The thing is with arsenal is when they are at a level that when teams like brighton fulham or brentford try to play for a win they get smashed (ik arsenal drew against brentford but that was during a bad run of form aka an anomaly) this is because they are good enough to try and play them but they are nowhere near the level arsenal are but when teams just try a deep block it changes so personally I think arsenal are better than city and if they had trossard in the false 9 role against city even though partey was out i think its a completely different game
Damn that Lee Gunner AI voice over praising Arteta looks mad real
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As an Arsenal Fan, how I see the Casemiro challenge is as red. Purely because, he jumps into the challenge with both feet of the ground, meaning he is out of control and ends up catching his shin. However I also believe the Chelsea game was worse and fully deserved a red. Your correct, itâs the inconsistency thatâs the problem.
Both feet? What the hell are you talking about?
Both feet leave the ground, which means that he jumps into the tackle, therefore out of control and reckless.
Donât forget that his studs are also showing
Yeah that's the rules
@@Maax1200 United fans and denialđ
This has been happening to Arsenal with these decisions for Years and everyone just said we cried, the refs tried to affect us this season but now theyâve seen itâs not working they are balancing out all the decisions given in Uniteds favour to not get caught for corruption for no reason
Exactly if the offside goal by Brentford would have been disallowed by VAR, Arsenal would be 7 points ahead of City. And there is no excuse for VAR not checking an offside goal, it's just corrupt.
@@nicob.4607 The refs protect Bruno, Martinez and even Mctominay. sorry United thought an experienced player like Casemiro to be responsible shows how little they know about him as heâs always played like this. That is a red card 60% of times where as Arsenal get reds for challenges you get sent of 30% of times
Arsenal have had more wrong decisions against them than any other team in the league this season and are still top of the league. Outstanding stuff
In the Europa game against Real betis i think Hernandez should have seen Red with that tackle against the realbetis player that to me was a stone wall Red card, i don't hear anyone talk about it
â@@DonDee019 that Casemiro red is a mistake that can happen to anyone.. (including the cleaneet player you know)
Lee has realised that his negativity isn't paying off anymore now that the team is doing well.
he'll be Arteta out if we don't win the league.
@@El-Penguino he will be "arteta out" the next goal goes in our next......
what if his arteta in now and you start slipping?
@@El-Penguino He said if Arsenal finish less than 6 points behind City, he's Arteta out.
@@prateekparmar7138 nah that's cap. he said if arsenal are still within touching distance of man city with less than 6 points (basically challenging for the league) by the end of the season then he'll give arteta credit
It was clearly a red. C'mon Utd fans, you would have said the same thing if it was the other way. And these are the same fans complaining about VAR being blind.
Definitely a red, whether there was intent or not. The consistency thing is difficult, because a different referee in another game may see a similar incident differently.
Then the game where mariner was the referee he shouldve given a red then that's all the argument is...
Definitely a red, not dirty malicious intent red. Its an unfortunate red and the 4 game ban looks a bit harsh.
Not a red. Never a red
Definetely was he was 3 feet of the ground. Saying that tho there for sure have been other reds for other teams that werent given
And the Sabitzer tackle a few weeks ago. And lets not forget the Enzo stamp on Maddison the other day
that's ruled him out for the season
I've watched the VAR review of Casemiro's tackle 10 times and all the 10 times, I think it is red. It was a very reckless tackle and the Saint player was very lucky not to get a broken leg. Red card 110%
Watch any tackle 10 times and they are ALL red cards....you plonker.-đ€Šââđ€Šââ
@@Maax1200 not true though is it?
@@Maax1200 dumbest thing iâve heard all year
@@wasupm Not getting what im saying but ok.
What team do you support?
United fans finally know what Arsenal fans have felt for years,
We arsenal fans used to complain about referees on penalty decisions.united fans were enjoying now they are feeling the heat
Casemiro used to get away with this at Madrid not in the premier league
If Real Madrid was ever fairly refed, the number of title would have been greatly reduced since the loss of Ramos and Pape would have been constant. Casamiro is the same. El Blancos get away with such dirty play and it does not fly in other leagues.
If that was Xhaka
@@erikraudssen6777 Lol, PL is is a princess leuage. You THINK its tuff, its not. There isnt a single leuage on the planet that have so many intreruptions by the referee as in PL.
Canât wait for lee to be fuming about this again đ
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Lee is fragile af both mentally and physically, Terry is the opposite
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How good is trossard! 3 assists in the 1st half he's on fire!ÂŁ21m well spent I think
I agree with what you said. Its only brought into question bc some don't get called. There is a massive difference between the shown examples and what Casemiro did however. He did a LUNGING tackle, leaving the ground with both feet, getting the top of the ball(Goldbridge was generous with his positioning of the contact, Casemiro was actually MUCH higher on the ball. Essentially skimming it) and full forcing the studs into the leg of someone basically running in his direction. So its opposing forces meeting making it even worse. If he does a reach poke with studs(like in the examples shown), that'd maybe be a yellow at worst, but the lunge and how high his foot was on contact, just looked sloppy and deserving of the red card.
I will say this though, they REALLY need to get away with showing SLO-MO REPLAYS!! Everything should be shown in real time with the benefit of VAR being more about seeing it either for the first time bc you missed it when it happened, or again with multiple camera angles provided. I think slowing it down does nothing for the actual assessment of the invent other than exaggerating the actual event. We also need to get away from saying "he won the ball first". When something like this happens, getting the ball is almost irrelevant. Say, if someone goes in and makes contact clearly with the ball first and then raises their leg, so studs make contact with someone's thigh. You're going to see a card.
Why is Lee sounding humble now đ€Ł đ that weâre winning watch when we lose lmao I hope we donât đ€ but watch how he changes his tune if we even drop points once đ
Appears to me mans got mental health issues
I respect you because you stand up for us Arsenal fans when the ref ran us and you did saying that you not supporting those ref's actions because only in a few days the same will happen and as you say it happens.
I ain't an Man Utd fan but Casemiro's sending off was the correct decision. There has to be zero tolerance with these challenges/tackles because they could be potentially career ending and life affecting for the players on the receiving end of them. It's just the most dangerous tackle there is. I do understand that it looks like Casemiro bends his leg and doesnt seem to put alot of force into his tackle. But, there has to be zero tolerance because if you start taking it case by case where do you draw the line? ZERO TOLERANCE. Players just need to keep their feet/studs down!
I think it is red. It is unlucky , those tackles usually donât get a red card but why I think it is red is because of how the Southampton leg goes. It literally looks to be close to breaking. I got that feeling you get when you see a big injury. It turned my stomach. Thatâs why it is red, it is unlucky but Casemiro is responsible of that potential season ending injury
well vdb and eriksen are out for the season got their legs broken the offenders never got a yellow card forget red.
@@techarch8851 Yeah the refs are unbalanced but that does not make this one less of a red.
Why didn't they show the tackle in the United Leicester match? United should have 10 men that game too
If Casemiro was a Southampton player pulling that off on a United player, I'm sure the discourse around the tackle would be very different
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Does that mean that he has now accepted that the Arsenal squad was a complete shambles when Arteta took over, and it was going to take a major overhaul to put it right?
From my viewpoint, Iâm delighted that Arteta has so far proved all of the doubters wrong. The best team in the league, on top on merit and playing lovely football.
It's one season, pal.
@@glasrazuma933 three seasons pal
@@joshfitt1021 I didn't know that Arsenal were in the running for the title in previous 2 seasons.
Arteta out arsenal fans did not realise how bad the squad was in terms of actual player quality and the culture of complacency and laziness we had before Arteta. That overhaul was always going to take time. I personally write the first two seasons off because we had so many poor players.
There's LITERALLY a dozen tackles over the last two season from United players that should have had red cards and did not, usually from Mctominay. United only got Europa League last year because of favourable decisions, they only got CL in 19/20 because of favourable decisions. Absolute last club in the entire world who should be complaining about such things. People say you buy the refs off because that's exactly what it looks like
It was a red card but the issue is the inconsistency in refereeing. Some of such tackles are allowed some get red just like the tackle against Felix in the Chelsea Vs Leicester match.
You gave 2 examples where the defender had a foot planted so they had some control i.e they wouldn't break a leg like that. Casemiro jumped studs up in to the challenge which is way more dangerous.
Mmmkay, i have one foot planted and do a Bruce Lee in your face with my other foot = not dangerous according to you.đ€Šđ€Šđ€Š
Btw, you need to read up on how physics work. Its not the force of the offender but the momentum of the offendee that brakes legs.
@@Maax1200 mmm kay. If you have a foot planted you can control the force you idiot. i.e You can pull out. You can't pull out if you have both feet off the ground.
Maybe your dad should've pulled out too
As a gunner myself, I didn't think Casemiro deserved a red for it. Too me it looked as if his foot bounced up off the ball after winning the ball cleanly 1st. Great content as always Terry.
An orange for me
It was a red card, it was a potential leg-breaking tackle. If it was done against your player you would be advocating for a red card.
What you can say about the Pereira and Van Dijk tackles is they didnt leave their feet. That is a tangible difference. However, having said that, Royal received a red against Martinelli for very much the same style of tackle.
Casemiro getting the Xhaka treatment
Smh ... Casemiro is not fully in control of his actions as he made the decision to leave ground and take to the air with his studs up. Those types of tackles can cause broken legs to the opposing player, especially if proper contact is not made with the ball ... And there wasn't proper contact in that tackle. So that's a deservedly straight red card
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Casemiro gets a Red Card in my book the more I see it.
Heâs more like Jet Li Gunner with that freeze frame you done on him Terry đ
I see what goldridge is saying but it's how he jumped into the tackle that was potentially dangerous. Red for me. There is no consistency and if anything var has made it worse. Great channel. Up the Gunners. đ€đ»
A lack of consistency is the thing that drives us all mad but thatâs a red all day long. If your studs go into someoneâs shins thatâs a red (as the other examples shown should have been). As an Arsenal fan I still have pdst from so many leg breaks on our players.
I've seen people bring up the Leicester game and just because they made the wrong choices on Saturday it doesn't mean they should make the wrong choice on Sunday.
Feel bad for Lee Gunner, so much trauma from the post successful Wenger Era...
Fuck that guy, like we dont have the sane trauma, but majority of us have healed when our young boys burst on the scene and gave us hope and belief again.
the moment i saw it i knew it was a red for casemiro. i was actually surprised when he initially gave a yellow
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It's an unlucky red card but still a red. Not an intentional bad tackle, rash maybe.
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If itâs a red cad like you said then theirs nothing unlucky about it .
Itâs a red. But the tackles on Saturday had to be a red as well
So shouldnât be a red then, you literally explained why it should not be lol
@@samuelggg3801 They all should be red cards
The red card for Casemiro, in my opinion, was definitely right. The inconsistency argument is a red herring. You can't justify a bad challenge by saying other bad challenges weren't punished. The David DeGea interview was far more illuminating than the Ten Hag one. DeGea said Casemiro was a bit unlucky but it could have been worth a red card. When your team mate says something like that it is like an opponent asking for a ten match ban. Ten Hag also tried to make some sort of argument that Casemiro had never been sent off before coming to England so it was clearly down to the officials. If someone is convicted of murder when they are 30 it isn't a defence to say he never committed murder for 30 years so the legal profession must be at fault. It also may just mean he never got caught before.
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Think Casemiro is unlucky but itâs a red. Both Perreira and VVDâs were reds too. Handballs this season are the most egregious for me. I actually have no idea what constitutes a handball after Arsenal vs Bournemouth, UTD vs Southampton and Chelsea West Ham then Liverpool get that one on Saturday
Totally unbiased opinion. I think it was probably a red. Not because he missed the ball but he had both feet off the floor. If you dive in and miss, it's a red. Before you say he didn't, watch the replay - not the stills.
Big up Terry man. Always spitting facts!!!!
The inconsistency in the "where is the consistency" argument is that both tackles you compare to, the player didnt completely leave their feet like Case did.
Irrelevant but ok, thx for you input.đđ
@@Maax1200 its not irrelevant at all lol
@@braxtonmay391 of course it is, studs is studs, doesnt matter what position the player is in, open studs on the opponent is usally red. Irrelevent if he is frozen in time or flying like a seagull.
with regards to the ref and the alternitives you showed , Casimero was the only one with both feet off the ground
Sometimes the challenge looks worse when slowed down as well, Auba when playing AFC had a similar red card.
Casemiro Red Card was the right call. Studs over the top into the standing leg after leaping into the challenge. He purposely kept his foot high in case he missed the ball. Any Premier League player knows how to tackle and not let your studs go over the top of the ball.
As an Arsenal fan...Arsenal has a tough fixture ahead...with the likes of Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Man City, Brighton, Southampton, Leeds, West Ham, Wolves, Nottingham Forest, New Castle,....it's going to be a tough...just hope the other teams do their job and beat MAN CITY đđżđđżđ„č
That tackle has never been a red in my lifetime.
Foot rolls over the ball. That's a casualty of the contact sport that football is.
Timing on dat Lee gunner arteta in.. was mad perfect đ”đ”
Bruv - the Sabitzer one was a BLATANT RED. It was as bad as the VVD studs challenge. The inconsistencies have helped Yanited this season.
Why do you keep winding up Lee đđđ I know he will come on fuming saying âyou said I was wrong no Iâm notâ
Facts, terry knows how to get under Lee's skin in second đ and lee takes the bate every time
The inconsistencies are frustrating.
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For me that is a 100% straight red, if your studs are up and its above the ankle. Regardless whether it's follow through or no ball, all Cas had to do was point his studs to the floor and the max he would have got was a yellow. Yes there has been inconsistentcies throughout the league but does that mean we start ruling them all wrong now since others have been. For me it's as cold cut as that
im gonna use the "if that was xhaka its a red card" line .. so yeah if its a red for xhaka its a red for united
I think it was a red, jumped into the tackle with studs showing and would have hit high on his ankle Iâd the ball hadnât of deflected his foot higher, clear red by the rules
Watch thisâŠ..! đđ that usher gets me every time đ°ïž he still ainât earned his ticket on the Funvee yet tho. đ heâs gonna have to remain loyal Arteta has done the work and it is clear we are a totally different animal with players that wanna play and players that wanna come to thrive here itâs what more do you want Lee. đđ
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I remember when we beat sevilla and vhelsea in pre season Tierry said Arsenal look scary and said i am scared.. he hasnt stopped saying... keep praising them and hopefully that get it over the 1ine đ
Can't abuse Lee? He said anyone who thought Arteta would challenge for the title was a muppet. He must apologise!
I think you and mark should put your names forward for the MOD job Iâm sure you would do a great job. COYG .
I swear Terry lives partially to troll Lee đđđđ
Lots of people bantering and happy about the Man Utd ish i think is because when we kept getting all the bad decisions, rival fans kept doing same thing to arsenal fans instead of calling out the bad refereeing. We need to get to a point where aside the banter/bantering of each other get to hold and call out the officials and the officiating body
Terry should absolutely look into comedy đ€Ł đ đ đ..These videos are killing, insane intros.
Thats a red all day. cassemerio juumped into the tackle
Itâs harsh but itâs a red⊠the corruption comes into play when you look at the red that shouldâve been given to Southampton and the 2 pensâŠ
Welcome to the life of an Arsenal fan over the past 5 years
Weâve been screaming about this for years but we were deluded whingers. Now itâs happening to Utd itâs a serious issue đ
This is one of the Most interesting title races Iâve personally seen
I do think it was a red. He jump tackled the ball (took a risk and it didnât pay off). So thatâs why you call it unlucky (based on the fact that if it was a clear jumping tackle then it would be fine). You can 100% complain about inconsistency but that doesnât make Man Utd red invalid
Look up the rule's,opinion doesn't matter
Has Casemiro been sent off 2 times or 3 times?
Or is it just suspended 3 times?
That's a pure red card
Casemiro turned into xhaka 3 years ago...just getting red card for just looking at the ref side ways
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He could have snapped the guys leg in half. Not intentional but both reckless and dangerous.
Fair play to Lee for coming clean
I can understand the argument by Terry comparing non-red card fouls vs Casemiro's foul. It's frustrating to see one team get away with a yellow another with a red and Leicester getting away with nothing. There's no real argument to downplay the VVD and Ricardo fouls, but when Casemiro connects with the defender 30cm off the ground which his leg angled up, there is literally no single argument which detracts from the foul being a red! If he had bodily control, he wouldn't catch the player halfway up his shin, if he'd contained the ball and actually "won" it, it wouldn't bounce off the standing leg of the player. It's so glaringly foul play, it's crazy that's even a discussion! That said I do believe VVD should have seen red and Ricardo at least a yellow purely because the angle of the foul wasn't going to risk cause in the same level of injury as the other two. I've seen Xhaka sent off for far less though đŽ
Its a red, but just so inconsistent. Mark is right with the chelsea game and those tackles, cause they are worse, however the casermiro one is also a red
Glad you said it was a dive by Rashford - some United fans have disagreed
âBasically what happenedâ is studs up flying kick with two feet off the ground đ
Of course there are inconsistencies, however such challenges sometimes are red and sometimes yellow. Ultimately it comes down to an individual referee's judgement
Casamiro was a SENDING OFF every day of the week. He left his feet, studs showing, over the ball (yes, his foot bounced over the ball, but accidents get punished all the time). I would like ANYONE to tell me how the combo of those three does not warrant a direct red.
Goldbridge looks like he's never played a half of football in his life, yet he's out here nerdsplaining a dirty tackle. The state of some of these influencers.
I donât understand how he gets so many viewers. He had like 80k watching when all the other United fan channelâs had less than 3k
Itâs madness!!
I agree both of the shown examples and the casemiro incident are all the same and should all be reds
We donât want the credit. At the start of the season they doubted us and made all sort of excuses for us winning a game. Our opponents were never good enough and we were cruising. Then they started to think we could do it and we had some bad results. The doubts came again and we are cruising. Please retain the credit until we lift the trophy. End ofâŠ
That's a red all day. He leaves the ground with both feet, studs up, skims the ball and luckily doesn't squarely hit the players shin. A couple more inches and he breaks his leg
Finally there's links to the other channels in the description,, can i get a hallelujah
As an Arsenal fan, I do feel for cassimero as he did connect with the ballâŠ. BUTâŠ. The combination of the follow through with studs up above the ankle, and both feet left the groundâŠ. If xhaka did it, it would be a red too but letâs be honest, the refs are SHOCKING in this league⊠the only consistency in this league is the inconsistencyâŠ.
It was a red but casemiro couldn't avoid his foot sliding up the ball
Lee has always said that he want's the team to challenge for honors, nothing wrong with having that kind of ambition
I think that is a dubious red but not really crazy.
Pep is quality but at the same time he has never managed a team that wasn't clearly the best team in the league & best managers get best jobs but I've always wondered how would he do managing a team like mine (arsenal) or a dortmund.
Lee being Arteta in is a title in itself
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It's not just consistency. It's the lack of accountability. Refs and VAR officials need to justify their decision-making
The united fan freaking out asking how is that a red card has deliberately chosen a frame that does not depict the incident. He is surely lying to everyone. the follow through was very high and was studs to shin. It was a red card. The idea that the player wasn't that hurt is irrelevant. Terry you need to call this out as well.
I think it's right to call out poor officiating but only when you have real substance to go off of. Havent heard a single good argument resulting from the casemiro decision and it really weakens arguments against actual bad calls
đ Ateraaaa. Can't lie I miss those days
I believe it was a red card Terry because it was dangerous play where I think it wrong is the inconsistencies of VAR
I'm so torn about the red card. Part of me says no part if me says yes. So I guess for me it's an orange and could go either way on the field.
Itâs a Red for Casemiro but UTD shouldâve had 2 pens and palace shouldâve also had a red for the blatant handball if he donât handball it Weghorst scores. Just so people donât think itâs bias or anything Iâm an Arsenal fan
Yes it's a red his foot was over the ball high and caught the guy bad could of been a leg breaker
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Terry comon sabitzar side kick was deffo a red
It's a straight red no if ands or buts reckless challenge however I completely understand why utd fans are upset it's the inconsistency in these decisions when teams are getting away with it and others aren't it's ruining the integrity of the league
Terry you can't possibly be serious about that being a red card??
The thing is with arsenal is when they are at a level that when teams like brighton fulham or brentford try to play for a win they get smashed (ik arsenal drew against brentford but that was during a bad run of form aka an anomaly) this is because they are good enough to try and play them but they are nowhere near the level arsenal are but when teams just try a deep block it changes so personally I think arsenal are better than city and if they had trossard in the false 9 role against city even though partey was out i think its a completely different game
Lol we own your club you can't beat us what makes you think you are better than us