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Let's talk about the Adam Jones Flying V & the Refreshed Gibson SG Lineup... - Hudba
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Schecter isn't just showing Gibson that those colors work on those shapes, they are also showing them that for your money you can have supreme quality, not just a name on the headstock of a status symbol.
And as to that greeny headstock, I actually like the current "old Kalamazoo" headstock they've been using. With triple binding it ends up looking super ornate.
I look forward to these style videos. On a side note I could not justify paying 20.000$ on a guitar 😂
Back in 2020, my car got stolen. After a couple weeks, USAA finally finished their claim and I had 22K at my disposal. I bought an Epiphone LP Studio for 399 😂
@@TylerJohnstonGuitar how do you drive the epiphone though ?
@@martyshwaartz971 I did have to leave enough room in the budget for my 2013 Diesel VW Golf 🤫 only 9k though.
Fr thats the price of a piano
Even if you could is it really worth it?
The Flying V looks pretty cool. That's about it.
I love the SGs the way they are.
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It's actually been a while since I last saw my question on Askgufish so it pretty awesome to see!
I genuinely think your guitar channel is the best one overall. Keep it up!
You are correct about the LP Tributes. I actually like my Tribute more than my Standard. Sure, the Standard is prettier to look at...but as far as playing, my Tribute is my beast. I prefer a neck without binding..so that amd the thicker neck does it for me. Highly under appreciated guitars.
Satin finished necks are also much more pleasant than glossy necks! (Imo)
@@martyshwaartz971 true. But unfortunately, it is hard to keep a satin neck feeling like a satin neck.
I adore LP tributes, perfect modding guitars, I’ve got a 96 tribute lite, plain and simple LP with an ebony fretboard?? Hello???
Ridge is so cool. Am I one of those "hard to shop for" guys?
I will simply hang onto my SG Std. Ltd Ed. in Vintage Sunburst with small pickguard.
Batwing pick guard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teardrop pick guard
I've seen Tool approx. 10 times live - I've never seen Adam rock a V.
It's sick - but seems mighty pricey . . .. .
Saw them 2 weeks ago. He’s playing it on this tour.
You can see him playing one on CZcams.
I saw him play it about a year ago...maybe two. It's probably song-specific, would depend on what the setlist is. I couldn't tell you what song it was when I saw it, though.
None of these 20k guitars are made for players. They’re set so high so real collectors will think they can trade them like stocks. Seeing as how Adam Jones Lp went to 20k pretty quick after release (due to collectors not players), Gibson figured hey why not just keep it all for ourself and leave no meat on the bone? Sick world we live in..
He’s been playing the V since 2019. Used to do it on Invincible only but plays it quite a bit on this tour.
1:36 Pat Stump from FOB and Ryan Key from Yellowcard both have a 2002ish Pewter colored SG Special. I only know that because I have the same guitar. Open pore finish with a satin silver that feels great. I’ve been looking at swapping my 498t/490r for the Kramer Eruption set and maybe a new look to give it a fresh new lease on life.
Cool video. A Flying V on Jones looks wrong imo... it looks more metal than his style if that makes sense. I'd also like the see the Epi version and it's price point.
Hope epiphone does the same SG colours too 😬
I don't know if the Tributes will sell for much longer, hopefully they do.
That Adam Jones reverse silverburst flying V is a dream guitar. But even in my dreams you wouldn't catch me spending $20k on a guitar lmao really hoping they offer some sort of alternative and that it's not a limited run, cause it's one of the only guitars I've even considered getting from Gibson besides one of the new Dave Grohl signatures
i really hope they make an epiphone version of the adam jones v, the reverse silver burst is so sick
Something tells me the Tribute "revamps" are probably gonna be the exact same, but they're still gonna end up raising the price another 1-200 bucks 😂
Yeah, they will bring back mahogany necks and say that justify their price hike, it's disgusting and that's why Gibson won't be getting another dollar from me 😂
Cesar literally blocked me on Instagram when I said on one of his picturea that the regular V headstock would've looked way better, because the offset split was too ugly for Jones' custom V 😂
Glad I grabbed my SG tribute natural walnut while I did. I absolutely love the guitar.
Maybe because Adam jones is my fav guitarist, but i love that V...
The last SG I owned was a 2012 Standard and also had a 1989 Special which was unique because the fretboard was shifter right on that model year to feel more like an LP.
That said, I sold both since I preferred the tone and feel of my LPs and PRS Singlecuts.
I wish Gibson would redesign the SG to feel more like the late 80s SG Special that felt and balanced more like an LP!
I wish Gibson would bring back the SG-X model with just a bridge pickup and no pickguard.
What I’ve been waiting for. Thinking about an SG ‘61 in that teal translucent shade or in Pelham Blue. Otherwise might think about an LP Standard in Blueberry Burst, Ocean Blue, or Inverness Green. More likely to go the SG route because I would have to thin my existing herd for an LP.
the 61 with vibrola should be offered in Pelham blue, as in 64-66 they were custom ordered in it fairly frequently. considering it’s the closest to a 64ri you can get without going broke
i want that silver batwing SG standard! For that mid-2000s emo pop punk feel!
I’ve never been in on the SG discourse and I’m wondering what the general consensus is regarding their pickguard styles. I think the full-sized pickguards look a million times cooler than the half-sized ones but I get the impression that might actually be a somewhat hot take (these days at least) considering I see way more half-size ones “out in the wild.”
I might be interpreting it wrong but the silver SG that Patrick Stump and Ryan Key from Yellowcard played was a 2001 SG special in pewter. It was a "official" line BUT this IS the first time the sg standard has even been made with the batwing pickguard, 2 pickup config. Needless to say, I bought one and i love it.
I was just recently thinking after getting a Smokehouse burst Les Paul studio Gibson, how have you never demoed a Les Paul studio? They have the hot 498t 490r. It's the perfect guitar for our people... seriously wth. I love it. Alice in chains in a box...(pun very intended)
To be the wierd guy in this comment section... I fucking love the look of the Adam Jones V. Looks awesome to me but I'm a wierd guy in general.
I have a beautiful, yet simple LP black gold hardware studio from 2016 series. Love it. i guess I really don't aspire to even bother to entertain anything they are pushing today. Except to get what they do the best, a Standard or Custom LP. In their own right, they are gold standard to have and play because they are still to me the best in that area. it would be cool of Gibson went out of the box, and explore new models all together, not regurgitate the same models with new color finishes. EB and and even Fender are branching out with some interesting options etc. It will take more than a paint job to invest on a new Gibson. A huge no on anything Adam Jones signature as a customer, if I was buying it, but love the band! Gibson has the ability to do really anything they want, and may not want to do anything new, but you can only redress their existing models and try to push it out as something to entice customers. No hate to Gibson, but seriously, nothing really to see here.
I LOVE that Adam Jones V !
5:25 I prefer the weight relief or be extremely light. So I can stand up easily and play longer with a proper posture.
I have a hondo 2 it is heavy as hell. It sounds awesome I use it for drop D, E standard and C# tuning. I now will only use it for recording and have the guitar strap higher so I don’t injure my self.
I currently use a modded mars guitar that’s extremely light. It is so much lighter than any standard size instrument I have used.
My interest in light guitars started because of Kurt Cobain.He had those mustangs.
There is no way that Adam Jones V stays in tune at all with that headstock.
The part I don’t understand . Is why it has too go through the Murphy lab .
Cool wallet and KeyCase 💯
12:16 I’m dinging the black one. I would like a midnight purple V though like on Nisan gtr . That would be sick
I'll get one of those teal ones eventually
I’ve got a les Paul tribute and it’s the best damn Gibson I’ve ever played, par a $6k les Paul custom shop
Hopefully those Harley Benton tube amps make their way to Monoprice, just because it's shipped from within the US that way and returns are easier if something goes wrong. I have a Monoprice version of the Tube 15 and LOVE it. That HB Tube 30 head and their 2x12 cab would be a lovely thing to have.
I can see for collectors that Adam Jone’s model is cool, however I’m not a fan, keep the Gibson headstock as is, it looks way too much like a Dean, regardless of law suits (although I agree the timing is hilarious! 🤣). I do like his use of art though!
That’s the coolest Flying V of all time.
I personally love my Gibson Les Paul Tribute.
Cool I never got a mention in a video before .
It would look better with the traditional triangle headstock
Michael Schenker, Rudolf Schenker both need to get signature Flying V lines from Gibson, especially now that Michael can no longer use his Signature Dean Flying V line. And Matthias Jabs needs a Explorer signature line from Gibson. Matthias uses an Explorer with a 9/10ths size body which I think is the proper size for an Explorer body and makes it look more sleek.
The Adams Jones V is siiick, hopefully they will come up with an Epi version. Parallel universe gibsons /Epis should be a thing, specially in 25,5" or longer scales
I will say this. I have a love hate with LPs in terms of how it feels to play them. But SGs I absolutely love. I got to see a silver burst SG a week ago and am in love. Also no lie. Just joined discord. I really have no idea how it works in terms of where different channels are and the question section
got here in the first minute somehow
i’m assuming it’s a good video!
BRUH!!! Where's the HB single cut baritone sig?
It's almost December, I gotta throw my money at one 😂😂
No need to worry about the headstock, it’s removable.
i feel the new adam jones reminds me more ofa dean
than a dean looking like a gibson
i might be wrong but i thought gibson sued dean because according to them certain models looked alot like gibsons yet i never would have never confused a dean with a gibson
yet when i first saw this i thought it was a dean
idk maybe dean should sue gibson for that now
I like the new sg colors myself.
I’m in the same boat with the Adam Jones V, I don’t think I should like it but I do. 😂 Kind of hoping for an Epiphone version cause I might pay Greeny price for that.
One thing Gibson or Epiphone could do that would be interesting is a line of guitars with a firebird headstock. Like the Lizzy Hale Exploerbird. I think the V would look good with it and the Les Paul and SG would be different as can be.
I am still personally wanting a gibson/Epiphone Flying V with a firebird headstock
I didn't know people shit on the Gibson Tributes. That's too bad, it's the closest thing we've got to a Fender Mexican/PRS S2 line. I think they're a really good addition to the lineup.
Overall, though, at the high end, I feel strongly that Gibson is at a high risk of buyers passing them by in favor of Heritage, or Eastman, or another brand that puts good quality lutherie over a headstock logo. They NEED to expand their lineup of desirable models and shapes, and not just at the $20-50k price point. C'mon. And the fact that they refuse to put out a Ripper Bass is unforgivable! 😡😡😡
P.S. Also, I love when people write in and ask "Hey Hunter, have you seen [whatever] guitar?" Yes. Yes, he has. Hunter sees all. 😂
P.P.S I always loved Stump's silver SG. Very iconic.
Forget about the 20000usd Adam Jones V, I don't get anyone paying for a Standard les paul these days, for what? A new color?
And I love Les Pauls and have owned several.
That flying v would sell a LOT if it was reasonably priced...
honestly the only thing i don't like about the adam jones flying v is that the headstock doesn't have a matching finish on the top
The Pelham blue would be the one I'd get
surprisingly, dean is still in business. i wonder how long david can stand against goliath, they just need a new dimebag to push their popularity again imo 🖖
The Adam Jones V looks awesome! ...if it were 1/20 to 1/10 the price.
Unobtainium at its worst.
I want but i know ill never have one.
My drummer has a one off version of the classic Plus top.
Its basically an R0 with thin binding and a ceramic pick up. Has a birthday cereal number or something
His dad Eric got it in 93 from the custom shop when it was first starting.
Im jealous. Just did an album with it.
Off topic but I’ve been playing a friend of mines epiphone Les Paul special II and am soon to be getting an Ltd ec 256 are they good guitars for the money?
I’ve played some briefly but never long term would love to hear your guys opinions
They should have just made translucent colours like the teal one in blue etc.
Weird thing is, on Thomann the '61 in Red is less expensive than the new colours, despite both being 2k on Gibson website.
Well done, Gibson for couple reasons:
1. Quick and easy money grab, utilizing Artist name and whole lore around Adam Jones.
2. It is legitimately interesting instrument with idea, interesting specs.
If you ask me, 20k for Adam’s Les Paul or V, I would go for V.
70s bursts are available, but such a crazy V never been made.
And, I am not a Gibson fan at all, however, I do respect the brand nevertheless.
Let there be TOOL!🤘
TOOL 🤘
I'm one of the people that's complaining about the price of the V, because it's becoming more and more obvious that gibson doesn't care about working class musicians, obviously all of their focus is making these limited run murphy labs that they price-gouge for a literal downpayment on a house, and you know they just get sold to the share-holders and Cesar's rich friends. All their prices just keep going up while their quality control remains sub-par, if you're paying upwards of $3k you shouldn't have to worry about getting a good top or not having any QC issues, yet you're still gambling your money when you buy a gibson. Speaking of not caring about working class musicians, idk what's more of a rip off, spending $1500 on the most stale barebones gibson imaginable or spending it on an epiphone that looks just like those slash afd special-ii beginner guitars just with the OpEn BoOk hEaDsToCk, both have a depressingly decent chance of coming with QC issues, the latter of which was obviously just an excuse to price gouge epiphones just as egregiously, why just give the people what they want when you can bleed them dry for it right? I love the Gibson Les Paul and for awhile these new owners seemed pretty chill but their blatant greed these past few years is quickly obliterating all of the good will they gained when they took over, inflation isn't an excuse, stop letting them use that as a scapegoat for openly price-gouging. This is all coming from someone who's idolized this brand and their guitars since I was a child, and I think it sucks that Gibson is openly alienating a huge number of their fan base, but of course i'll just get labeled as a hater by Gibson and the elitist rich grandpas fans because they can't handle hearing even the most minor of criticisms
First, no one should do anything but respect your opinion whether they agree or not. You obviously care and that’s a good thing. I would say they have released multiple versions at varying price points in all fairness. I guess m lucky as I haven’t had any QC issues on my Gibson’s but that’s my experience.
In terms of the V what price point would be okay in your mind? Honest question. It costs a lot to develop a one off and they only made 50. Only 49 of those get sold as #1 goes to AJ himself. I assume a non-aged version will come out at some point too but who knows.
Lastly, if they can sell them for $20k why wouldn’t they? If I owned a business I’d sell my products at market value. No one buys them then the market drops. For me, the argument isn’t for these one off collector editions it would be for their standard series. If they are charging too much their inventory will pile up and they will have to meet the market where it is.
@@edtlonsway I was also very lucky with both of the Gibson's i've bought being 2 good examples, great even. But i've also played more than my fair share of Gibsons that were objectively bad guitars, a murphy lab 58 korina flying V being the worst offender.
I believe the super limited artist murphy lab customs shouldn't go for much more than a grand or two higher than a standard murphy lab, because at the end of the day that's what they are, just as recreations of someone's specific guitar, they aren't any better quality than any other murphy lab, because the murphy lab is already Gibson's top of the top of the line. So I can understand those super exclusive guitars going for like $10k-ish max, but $20k or $50k? That's literally a downpayment on a house, it just becomes blatant greed at some point.
And you're right, what's depressing is they'll list them for what people will pay for them, because everyone still buys the "it's inflation" story that's been proven to be a scapegoat for giant corporations blatantly price gouging, or "greedflation" as the kids call it. And that's what's got me so peeved, is Gibson, this brand that i've idolized for most of my life, is the brand in the guitar world that's hands down been the most egregious with it, with these $1500 epiphones and brand-new-car-priced pipe-dream customs. it's pretty damn disappointing.
@@DenDenBMX I hear you and don't disagree other than the fact I don't see it as greedy but what the market would bear. If we were talking about a painting I beleive the conversation would be much different. I beleive the fact is these ARE made for collectors then they release less resource intensive peices to the "masses."
In complete agreement that if you are paying for a premium product that it should be up to spec or replaced. No question there. They take enough duds back they will clean up their QC.
I'm an SG fan. I'm a Gary Clark Jr fan. I just can't stop thinking about this SG Tv Yellow '61......😅😅😅😂😂😂
I wish Gibson would reissue the 1984 "SHARK", which is an explorer shape that looks conspicuously like Eddie's shark guitar
If Gibson just waits a couple of years for Dean to go out of business they can use the Dean V head stock.
Have you seen the new Kramer lzzy hale voyager signature?
Those custom colours aren't anything new from Gibson though - the Goddess range from the mid-late 00s had very similar burst colours. (Looking at my Roseburst right now - Like the red burst, but a bit more pink-y)
I know that you're talking about s g colors. But do you think that gibson made a better guitar from 1968-74? I own quite a few of these and and they sound different. The a b r one bridge And even the 4 piece body. Mahogany maple mahogany maple. I want an ALL MOHOGANY LES PAUL CUSTOM OR STANDARD.
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First comment
The hardest part about all this madness with basic models with bare minimum electronics, you still get unbelievably high prices. Why
I will not stand for this Corvus disrespect - also the split v headstock is so hilariously bad it's great. I love it on my Epi Moderne lmao
I managed to pick up a basically new 2022 gibson sg tribute for 550 plus 60 to ship with case and all candy...couldn't pass it up
I have 3 SG’s and none of them cost me a 4digit price. Deals exist
@Ottophil this was on reverb last night and I scooped it up no question. 500 bucks for a gibby isn't bad
@@victoresarey4036best deal I got was 300 for an 89 special, no headstock break, no head dive. Real gibson, not chib
I’ll be big sad if they don’t add trap inlays to the SG tribute. I want one but the dots are gross
Can we get a modern thinner V that doesn’t cost thousands?
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Honestly, it would be sick if Gibson was back on the cutting edge. Fuck coasting on legacy models that are 60-70 years old. I guess it's safer to do that kind of experimenting with Epiphone first but still, when was the last time they really went crazy with a design?
The issue is that every time they've tried innovating they've done it very poorly and other companies (PRS, ESP, SIRE, etc) have already had modernized versions of the classic Gibson shapes for decades.
Well put. The manufacturers they inspired simply took their ideas and ran with it. Now Gibson has to play catch up. @@daniellowry660
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The Gibson Tribute are not going to be reamped... The price segment is now covered by Epiphone and the Gibson Modern
I’m curious as to why you think that. Even when I bought my Epiphone G400 Custom in 2006, it was the same price as the same price new as a Gibson SG Faded. High end Epiphone and low end Gibson prices have overlapped for over a decade
@@agufish I think the new collaboration between Epiphone and the Custom Shop with Gibson headstocks could break the Gibson Tribute segment. Plus the new Gibson Modern Lite seems like the effort to redefine the new entry level for Gibson USA. I have also heard from other youtubers that Maestro by Gibson could become the new entry level before Epiphone and Maestro might get reamped?
10:27 I would rather get a dean V and call it a day
Lets face it the Dean V looks infinitely better in every way
Whats the deal with Ali Express guitars?
He's got cool guitars, but idk, I'm not a tool guy
Calling the same guitar with a different finish modern is kind of hilarious to me, it's kinda like hitting a Ford Model A with a rattle can and trying to market it as a smart car from my perspective.
Say what you want about the Moderne but if I saw that thing in the 60s or 70s (or even today if the design wasn't previously established) I wouldn't question that it was trying to seem modern. I would probably question the headstock tho.
I really wish the Moderne body style took off, if it had a flying V headstock it would be sooo appealing to me. You don't play the headstock but that Y shape doesn't only look goofy, seems like it would be as bad or worse as far as tuning stability as normal books. I always thought they really shot the Moderne in the foot out of the gate by suggesting that nonsense shape.
Not a fan of the V’s headstock. It’s ugly as and just screams tuning instability. Pickup selector location is gonna be a nightmare to play live. The colour scheme? I don’t mind it actually and thank gawd it doesn’t have a scratch plate/pickguard on it. Not for me. Give me a Solar V1.6 any day of the week.
Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
Man, that Adam Jones Flying V is something else... That headstock has to be one of the ugliest ever made, challenged only by Fender's Parallel Maverick's headstock. And there's no way that string pull angle is good for intonation.
3:44 i’m an 18 year old musician who can barely afford my rent, i’m not touching a single gibson
No worries, it will get worse with kids hahahahaahahahah
"Vintage" "traditional" "classic" "reissue"
Imma say yes, theyre stuck in the past
Never liked SGs, no idea why, but couldn't bring myself to buy one regardless of colour.
Yep I know, I'm weird.
So as iconic as the SG is, I'd rather play an ESP/LTD Viper.
Does the dislike button negatively affect your page man...NO, I am not going to hit that button! LOL
It doesn't, just the same. Interaction is interaction as far the algorithm is concerned.
A lot of Gibson's at this point will set you back 2-3K despite the fact that they come with standard hardware and nothing nessesarily special about them other than the name on the headstock. For £1200 you can get a guitar of higher quality and with better hardware, honestly i wish gibson would just do something different and not stick to the exact same models for the next 30 years.
Just buy espresso