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Walk N Talk AHR Expo 2024: Unpacking Midea's Revolutionary Window Heat Pump

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  • čas přidán 26. 01. 2024
  • Michael had the pleasure to speak with David from MIDEA at the 2024 AHR Expo exploring a groundbreaking innovation in home heating and cooling: the Midea PWHP, a window-mounted cold climate air source heat pump.
    The Midea PWHP is designed for easy installation in standard windows using a 120V/15A circuit, thanks to its innovative saddle design and adjustable center section. This unique design allows for installation in windows with lower opening heights and reduces the footprint by 50%, a first in the industry with its integrated inverter compressor.
    This cutting-edge device is not only DIY-friendly but also remarkably efficient, boasting 9,000 BTU/hr of heating and cooling power with a top CEER of 16.0. It stands out for its energy efficiency, achieving a 2.35 COP at 17°F, SEER2 of up to 21.8, and HSPF2 of 11.6, all while functioning effectively down to -13°F without auxiliary heat.
    Beyond its technical prowess, the Midea PWHP is a key player in the Clean Heat For All challenge. This initiative, led by the NYPA, NYCHA, and NYSERDA, aims to transition NYCHA buildings from steam heating to more efficient air source heat pump heating. Midea's PWHP aligns perfectly with this goal, supporting NYCHA's mission to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050 and offering a viable, efficient heating solution for numerous municipalities and companies across the U.S.

Komentáře • 49

  • @amightysailingman
    @amightysailingman Před 5 měsíci +18

    You didn't ask the really important questions of when it's going to be available and what's the target price range. Touting the technology isn't useful if nobody can buy it. My landlord really wants to put in heat pumps because my idiot neighbors like to run their thermostats at 78º and he's paying for the natural gas for the building's boiler. He's thinking of putting in mini-splits, but they're not cheap and neither is the installation. I told him he should wait for these, but he's getting impatient. He wants to do it this year, 2025 at the absolute furthest out.

    • @mikemotorbike4283
      @mikemotorbike4283 Před 3 měsíci

      landlords learned this many years ago: set real temp to 69-72 degrees F. Put in fake thermostat enclosed within locked clear plastic thermostat cover product. Tenant will sneak a paperclip in there and feel oh so clever.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Target price is ballpark $3k based on the NYC contract it's designed to fit.

    • @amightysailingman
      @amightysailingman Před 2 měsíci

      @@daniellewis1789 Hope so, but there's no official word and that may not be the case. Gradient was the other company chosen for the contract and they've set the retail price of their unit at $5000.

    • @briimarie2218
      @briimarie2218 Před měsícem

      Ive heard midea will be 3k gradients version will be 3,800-5k

  • @midearacglobal4687
    @midearacglobal4687 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Major thanks to Michael Ridler for sharing the latest information about Midea PWHP! 🙌
    Midea is committed to ongoing improvements in energy efficiency and playing a vital role in the 'Clean Heating for Everyone' initiative.

  • @dougpriest9795
    @dougpriest9795 Před měsícem +4

    Now make the price under $1000

  • @aixmcduck9321
    @aixmcduck9321 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Oh *heck* yes.
    This looks smashing.

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq Před 3 měsíci +4

    Availability in the USA? MSRP?

  • @Egleu1
    @Egleu1 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Do we know when this will be available for consumers to buy?

    • @blazetownsend8785
      @blazetownsend8785 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Same question here.

    • @curtisehler4825
      @curtisehler4825 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Same question here

    • @EMERALDJAYNE
      @EMERALDJAYNE Před 5 měsíci

      This is awesome! I have a large house and I would have to put a mini split in so many rooms it really didn't save me any money and it wouldn't save electricity but I think this might work! But I don't like to buy things when they first come out I want to wait until they get the glitches worked out of them😅
      Also my concern is will it keep your house warm when it's 11° outside? That's my concern for heat pumps?😢
      Thanks for posting this I'm still on the fence and my Lennox is on its last leg but I think I'm going to wait and see how this works... I'm really excited that especially with the size and if it really saves US money 😁🙏🇺🇲

    • @chuckm8472
      @chuckm8472 Před 4 měsíci

      I have 2 midea u shape air units, so far I have been impressed. There not a year old yet so we will see how long they last and if there is a problem how easy it is to service them. That unit would be great in Florida because you could run it on a Generator in a emergency. I wonder what Midea is doing about having qualified techs to service them around the country. So many people I know installed mini splits but can't find anyone to service or repair them.

    • @Chris-ut6eq
      @Chris-ut6eq Před 3 měsíci +3

      availability is key. I can't even find this on their website.

  • @CraftsmanontheLake
    @CraftsmanontheLake Před 13 dny +1

    Interesting unit. Seriously considering it. Your camera movement needs improvement. Constant movement, often to places not showing anythings. Stationary on one side fo the window and the on the other while talking. I'm dizzy.

  • @N2LADIES55
    @N2LADIES55 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Very informative interview. I live in a very small brick home that is only 646 square feet and I'm looking for something like this in the future when the prices come down. One of their competitor's Gradient is selling their unit for about $5000 (US dollars) when they originally estimated it would be about $1999 and that's too much for me when I can just buy a $300 window air conditioner to keep my small home comfortable.

    • @Moondoggy1941
      @Moondoggy1941 Před měsícem

      Does not Midea make a U Shape AC/Heater unit already? I have the AC unit but not one that heats.

    • @ciliap
      @ciliap Před 7 dny +1

      @@Moondoggy1941 no its just ac

    • @ciliap
      @ciliap Před 7 dny +1

      honestly, a small heat/cool mini split would be a far better solution and runs circles around a window ac energy consumption wise if you go Seer2

  • @USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity

    What is the noise level? No, a 220 lb package unit where I need a jet pack or a second muscle man helper to work on the outdoor section won’t fly.

  • @ometofu
    @ometofu Před měsícem +1

    hot and cool.. this is cutting edge. probably can't afford gen1

  • @RobSnow-ui4sz
    @RobSnow-ui4sz Před měsícem

    How many amps does this need? Sure it needs 115 volt but like space heaters they need more often to be on a sperate breaker.

  • @kartenalexos8348
    @kartenalexos8348 Před měsícem

    I like the product, but I think we should make it easier to install split unit heat pumps across the US. In NYC permitting is hard with spit units. But it has picked up steam in Queens in the last few years. Getting common now like the ROW

  • @Moondoggy1941
    @Moondoggy1941 Před měsícem

    These are being made for a captive audience, complex owners that HAVE to retrofit their units to the new standard, these will be certified. So yes the price is important but meeting standards are just as important.

  • @CGrantL
    @CGrantL Před 2 měsíci +1

    This would have been great when I was stuck with baseboard heat in a rental

  • @jegog.
    @jegog. Před 4 měsíci +2

    Now make one for SLIDE windows! Why is it so much bigger and less powerful than the unit Midea sells on Amazon for $500? (It is the size of a small air conditioner and is 12000 BTUs, but only heats down to 41degrees - no defrost cycle)

    • @newporttom
      @newporttom Před 4 měsíci +1

      Bingo !!! I have a sunroom with slide windows. I'm wondering whether I can convert one window to a vertical.

    • @yamspaine
      @yamspaine Před 3 měsíci

      Slide windows would be great, it should be doable... It might take a big box.

  • @Contridiction-vp3fv
    @Contridiction-vp3fv Před 4 měsíci

    I saw a lot of cool innovations, like the handles, it's fold able for install etc... But both the ad I saw that lead me here, and the video both, make it sound like this is the first time anyone has made a window heat pump.That's not true, I have used window heatpumps from several different manufacturers. Ranging from 8k btu up to 28k btu. When we bought our current trailer, we decided to turn down the central unit, so we could keep using the window heat pump units. But, I will definitely check this out, I do need to add one.

  • @lisab3396
    @lisab3396 Před 2 měsíci

    The obviouis question is...... Where to buy in Canada? Took a brief look earlier and nothing came up.

  • @vcp93
    @vcp93 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Hmmmm ....9K BTU? That is kinda weak. So you're going to need a couple of these units, minimum.

  • @Moondoggy1941
    @Moondoggy1941 Před měsícem

    For now Midea's achilles heal, they need vertical windows to work, 80% of houses in Ca. have slide windows. I am lucky I wanted vertical lift windows installed in my house, so I have a 12k unit to assist with my central air.

  • @BTx789
    @BTx789 Před měsícem +1

    Too expensive

    • @stalwart56k
      @stalwart56k Před 28 dny

      $3,000 per unit is chump change compared to pulling new wire and upgrading existing electrical service to handle central HVAC when the previous heating was a boiler. I'd love to have one of these for my home because it'd be way cheaper than replacing my current older heat pump and air handler.

  • @darrellmcever340
    @darrellmcever340 Před 2 měsíci +2

    $3,000 ?? Not gonna happen. it's a Window unit. Should cost twice the price of a standard AC window unit.

    • @rancol23
      @rancol23 Před 2 měsíci

      Calculate the savings on your heating and cooling electricity bill when using this heat pump versus the standard technology of a standard AC. Also, there might be rebates.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 Před 2 měsíci +1

      If it's actually a maintainable appliance and not disposable, that puts the justifiable price up quite a bit. For a first generation product in limited run production, I think $3k is high but not absurd.

    • @vcp93
      @vcp93 Před 2 měsíci

      Might be worth it if it could heat/cool the whole apartment, but doesn't 9K BTU seem a bit under powered? Not sure one unit would cut the proverbial mustard.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 Před 2 měsíci

      @@vcp93 450 square feet on the high end? It's enough if you're already covered by a small/medium window unit, probably.

    • @Jon-hx7pe
      @Jon-hx7pe Před měsícem +1

      agreed, it is too much money when there at mini-split units at cost for half.