I think you did this was a messy situation and honestly trying to pick apart is tricky and as more people in there friend group give there perspective the full Image is going to get even more bizarre
@@AaronDukeYT there goods and bad to a follow up video on one end it lets people stay updated and they can form there own perspective. On the other hand it brings more to the drama and can stop the improving process and the end of the day people make mistakes what matters is what they do with them a mistake is only a mistake if you dont learn from it and improve from it.
You hit the nail on the head with this one like usual Aaron! Keep up your great work! I had initially heard rumblings from smaller dbd creators of June being very antagonistic towards people he would end up playing against. One night i was queued against him when trying to play killer. And now knowing all of what's happened between him and Selena, even Selena's own actions, i also won't be supporting either of them. I don't wanna know what would have happened if I had played out that match against June himself and with his SWF friends possibly ready to go off on me in EGC.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dead by Daylight Twitter “tea” channels start becoming a thing. The drama is never about the game, just the people 💀
Best way to describe this is a bunch of dis functional people trying to be together as friends and just not working out but I hope they all move on and improve as individuals
i feel sorriest for junebug's girlfriend in all of this. she was cheated on seemingly multiple times and wasn't treated well by june or selena in all of this, but her twitlonger makes it seem like she isn't blaming her own boyfriend enough at all. whilst it's their relationship to solve and work on, i hope that she finds the love for herself to not tolerate the behaviour and know that she can do so much better.
I’ve seen this happen personally where people who are victims of their toxic partner will often blame the interfering party. They often realize a bit too late and when the damage has already been done, or sometimes even years later when they think they’ve broken up on “good terms”. obviously we have no right to know anything about junebug’s partner, but i do echo your sentiment exactly
@@gamecub911 I don’t have hatred for anyone, but what they did to eachother was awful. I’m not even sure how you can come to that realization about me when the ppl who need it the most is in the video?
@@Kiddo_williams I'm very very very late but, he just said that to get a reaction don't listen to anyone who messes with you. I don't think your full of anger I think you are full of concern for them. But only you know how you feel no one knows, not me, not him, just you.
I have so much respect for you, Aaron. You can post the most fun, light hearted content while also being able to approach serious topics in a very mature and respectful manner. You're such an amazing and needed part of this community.
ive played with junebug and two of his friends in survivor solo queue. they were rude in the pregame chat telling me to put away my flashlight, and rude in the end-game chat too. they're the worst kind of people.
I saw Cheryl. I click on Cheryl because I love Cheryl. I did not see Cheryl. I am now disappointed in both the dbd community and the fact there was no Cheryl.
I hate when content creators use characters as their "OCS" I despise this guy for using Cheryl as his avatar! Guy's probably never touched a Silent Hill game in his life!!
As someone with borderline, its something few people understand and has massively bad stigma attached to it. If someone had a better understood illness, such as schizophrenia, I doubt the reaction would be the same. It took me almost a decade of therapy to be able to have my borderline under control. When you have borderline, it causes your feelings and emotions to literally be 10 to 100x stronger than they normally would be, which makes it impossible to think, and often creates a situation in which you do not have control. You lash out in the most cruel of ways, desperate in your desire to not be abandoned, whether perceived or real. While you are still accountable for your actions, you are at the same time not fully responsible for them either. The best thing you can do is prevent episodes, and have a good support network around you to help you stay connected and tethered to reality. DBT helps tremendously. The problem is that having a support network (which is required to be healthy) is extremely difficult, as even being friends with someone who has borderline (especially who has not had or is undergoing treatment) is hard. You will often find yourself truly alone and abandoned, which is your worst fear, and you will know that it is entirely your own fault. This can and does cause spirals in which it's hard to not give up on life, because even logically having friends or a relationship is extremely hard and can feel impossible.. I could go on and on about this, as I really wish there was more understanding of borderline, both so people can be more empathetic to people suffering from it, as well as better be able to protect themselves from it.
I’m glad you covered this. I’ve seen a lot of content creators criticize you for “being behind on this” or “not talking about XYZ,” meanwhile none of them have made videos to address the issue despite some having big influential platforms themselves. We as content creators have to hold each other accountable and when you’re dealing with content creators of their size, it is SO important for their peers to address them. So thank you Aaron for doing your part to help hold our community members accountable. ❤
Those chronically online DBD Weirdos are funny... They sit on Discord 24/7 and post more than anybody else on Twitter but are never the ones posting these types of videos or anything. They’ll bark at all the creators they deem big for not doing XYZ but in their free time (24/7 365) they’ll just spectate and throw rocks from glass houses
This is a perfect example of why these types of issues should not be arbitrated in the court of public opinion. People see a curated story and will take sides, cancel, etc. I hope everyone here gets the help they need and can find some peace with themselves.
I really didn’t find Swarms apology sincere in the slightest and to be honest if he was never called out those tweets would still be up. Being 17-18 years old in 2017 means he was old enough to know better and na, I don’t think he’s stopped using the N-Word since then. If he really wants to apologize make an actual video addressing the tweets. A shitty notes app apology not even acknowledging the words said. Cmon Aaron, that is unacceptable and you know it.
both of them engaged in horrible behaviours with each other. and both should be held accountable. both should see this as a growing opportunity. but i would say faking deaths and surgeries, and cheating on their partner multiple times and with multiple girls is considerably worse. its perfectly possible to recognize the poor behaviour of the two, whilst acknowledging one is considerably more immoral.
I think pointing at one being worse than the other has the potential to diminish the severity of the “not as bad one” if we’re not careful. I think it’s better just to condemn both behaviours
@@AaronDukeYT that's fair. but i also feel like that this type of neutrality only benefits bad behaviour. making them equals undermines the horrible cheating and betrayal that was going on. its horrible to cheat with someone but a person who wants to cheat will always find a way. and it is especially worrisome to cheat with someone you met through your community (they met through open lobbies). thats why i feel a need to acknowledge that there is a difference. but i understand your perspective too, and thats fine. the bare minimum is to listen to both and condemn bad actions from both, whatever ppl do with their opinions after, i dont take issue with
I definitely think they had a toxic friendship, but it is worth mentioning that I think Junebug’s actions are far worse and I’ve already been a judge of his character just having seen the way he treats others over time. Like, maybe he’ll seek help or something but his behavior is absolutely not what I would call the behavior of a “good person” in more situations than even just this. In fact I found some of the screenshots in Selina’s doc to be completely unsurprising just knowing how Junebug can be towards others.
I haven’t had any interactions with either of them before so I had no previous knowledge. I’m judging the behaviour and evidence I can see from all of this
Oh absolutely. To be fair, before I would’ve just said that June was like, a jerk. All of this is kinda unsurprising, but still pretty shocking from all parties involved tbh. I do hope they can go on to be better people in the future, Great video, I do think you covered the nuance of this situation really well! I was in a WoW guild that imploded, and the leaders in it had a similarly toxic relationship with one another. It’s always extremely important to fully understand all context so no one escapes accountability!
@@Pablo-pr4vg I definitely agree, Selina is guilty of doing some pretty awful stuff herself. I probably worded my initial statement quite poorly to be honest, I don't want to minimize the damage any of their actions do. Hurling slurs at people and telling them to end themselves is pretty beyond the pale itself. Their friend group sounds really mean, and it sound like they were really feeding off each others' toxicity a lot.
@@brad1426 It’s cool, I wasn’t insinuating you said she was at no fault just that a lot of people put the focus on mostly June when the whole group were bad and deserved each other clearly (especially with how Selina tried to pull herself up from the deep waters by dragging down her old friend group for the first couple days of the drama).
Hey everyone! I'm going to try to keep my response as short as possible for now. I wrote down en essay of my thoughts, but I'll share the main highlights. First and foremost, Borderline Personality Disorder is not something to bat an eye at. In extreme cases, it can be immensely difficult to deal with. The fear of abandonment it cause can and does push many people over the edge, similar to what we saw here. This is also worsened by outside influences and even can make someone more susceptible to trauma such as this. Now, for my actual stance on this... I will not condone nor have I ever condoned behavior such as this. The way all parties acted was extremely out of line. However, I firmly believe that it is NOT ok to spread hate to any single one of them. They have at the very least stated that they'd like to change and grow, and we NEED to let them do that on their own. Hating on them, and even some cases of what we think is supporting them, does not help in the slightest. In fact, in my experience, these things can backfire immensely and make an already bad situation even worse. In conclusion, don’t hate them, don’t excuse their behavior, allow them to heal in the way they see fit because that is the only way it’s possible for them to get better. Here are some hotlines for anyone who might need help as well for the American audience: Mental Health Emergency hotline: 988 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-274-8255 Suicide Prevention, Awareness, and Support: www.suicide.org Crisis Text Line: Text REASON to 741741 And of course, if you have an urgent medical emergency, please call 911
The situation in the beginning sounds similar to what happened with an old Lets Play channel i used to watch (that will remain nameless) It was a channel about two women who were irl best friends had been since their teens playing video games together it was great. they used to upload pretty regularly. Until one day out of nowhere they stopped. both their twitter accounts went quiet and nothing happened for about 6 months. Until one of them, we'll call M came back on twitter to explain what happened. Basically, it was discovered that the other woman, S was a massive raging alcoholic, and not only had she hid it, she'd lied about it for years pretending to have some mysterious degenerative illness that caused blackouts and brain fogginess. M literally thought S was dieing for a long time. M was even planning to pay for S to go to Disney world untill it all was discovered.
holy shit.. i know exactly who you're talking about and i've been wondering for a while what happened to them. i'm not on twitter anymore (haven't been since S was going through trying to figure out what her "mysterious illness" was) so i didn't see what happened, but holy shit.
Every story has more than one side, which is why it's so important to never just believe 1 version of the story, no matter if it's a close friend or not, always check the facts. That being said, they both are at fault, none of them are free of sin so prosecution of any of the parties is, imho, unnecessary, they need to fix their own issues and no third parties can help them with that, except for a therapist. Edit: I ate a whole 3 words at the beginning lol
I’d just like to thank you for consistently shedding unbiased light on these issues. It’s extremely refreshing to watch such a rational and level-headed creator in this community :)
aaron, you are by far the best content creator when it comes to spreading awareness and showing bad things/people in the community. great job once again.
i think with all of them, we need to wait and see how they grow with their actions. but the one i'm going to be more strict with is, really, Selena and Swarm. both of them were fully in control of their actions and while none of them took accountability before being called out, Selena intentionally hid the bad things she did (thus showing she knew they were bad) and Swarm would never have even discussed his racist past unless he was called out. June i think needs professional help more than he needs to be persecuted by the internet. as someone who is best friend's with a person with BPD, while i find June's behavior awful, i find myself unable to fully blame him for it. people with BPD often have people in their social circle that are called Favorite People, and these FPs often have a lot of control over how the person with BPD sees themselves. as an FP to my friend, i do my best to NEVER use that control, full stop. i don't want to ever hurt the person i am friends with or use their mental illness against them. it is plausible, to me, that Selena may have been an FP of June's, and his actions are those of a desperate person trying to get away from someone who is abusive but who also holds a significant amount of his self esteem in their hands. June doesn't need to be persecuted or hated, he needs a therapist and he needs love and support from people who actually care about him and will be able to help him be the person that he truly is
Bro I've only been on Dead by Daylight Twitter for a few days and I can already tell that's just filled with drama It reminds me of being back in high school because there's so much drama and toxicity.
Your words at 2:50 hit me so hard with what ive been going through that just hearing something outloud that's been in my mind for so long lifts a strange weight off my chest. Ty for that. Shame this kind of manipulation even happens.
odd take on the swarm “apology”. it was shitty; from top to bottom. from the lazy three “paragraph” essay in the notes app, to not even stating the reason why he had to apologize in the first place so newer ppl who see it probably wont know, to using time as an excuse like racism expires, then just to go on to stream the next day like nothing happened. as a black person that was not an apology from a place of remorse, that was an apology because he got caught. he had 7 YEARS to apologize for the tweets and hold himself accountable, but he rode the high horse of having a big platform all until it came back to bite him in the ass. people have a right to call him out on the half assed apology sorry not sorry lmao.
I agree, it wasn’t the best apology. But, again, when is a creators apology ever seen as “good”? I don’t think there’s anything to be gained from just shitting on it and not giving him the chance to act on his words and promises
@@AaronDukeYTso if someone puts out a crappy apology we should just accept it because we’ll they tried? There have been plenty of good apology videos. Idubz has probably done and said more vile things than these 3 and manages to come out with a sincere and believable apology. I’m not saying we shouldn’t accept growth but that’s comes in actions. Like a little paragraph on twitter. He didn’t even bother to show his face to “apologize.” His apology really should be judged by those it actually effects
@@AaronDukeYTI dont think you understand how apologies work. One of the most important parts of an apology is: tell US/the victim what you are actually going to do better yourself. Like literally list steps, plans of action, etc. Make it clear the types of efforts you are going to make and make it clear that there's a way for people (or the victim, particularly if it's a private apology) to actually hold you accountable and not for this stuff to get swept under the ground. You (Duke) keep saying we should give time for people to grow. No, that's just sweeping it under the rug. If they have made public f*ckups then they need to make public amendments that show they are changing. Either that or they stop being a public figure (stop being a streamer). That's what accountability is.
Mom I'm famous! Lol saw a tweet of mine 😂 But thank you for this one Aaron. This was definitely one that needed addressing & I'm happy it has both sides and the negative actions.
My heart goes out to you because this is not easy to do! I also agree with Aaron when he says durin his video, Action is so much louder than words, than words itself. his 💯% accurate. We all need to learn from this and pay more attention who is around us and watch out for signs. I'm trying to keep this short because it's a touchy subject. I really do hope they get this sorted out, i really do. I want to see them become better people not only just for themselves but people around them as well. Just by admitting is a huge step and basically saying "s**t, I f***ked up, doesnt mean your any less of the person who you are but seeing yourself admitting just shows that your going in the right direction making that first step. I really do hope they sort it out and move on from this and definitely learn not do it again. Its 1 baby step at a time ❤ and i do hope when things have settled down, Just by apologising and forgiving those who done wrong on both ends, just shows your willing to corporate, let things settle and as we say it in England 'leave it all behind and under the bridge so we move on' do your own thing, start smiling and start being positive ❤ treat those how you wanted to be treated which love and support 🥰 Aaron, Thank you again for sharing another great content for another awareness. I wish I could fit everything all in but I can't ❤ With so much love and support, I hope your doing well and keeping yourself and your family safe and healthy ❤ Thank you 🥰
What’s crazy was I playing against him on disturbed ward as wesker 4kd against him and I told my friends I beat him and I was told this controversy with Junebug and I was shocked
Yessssss people need a chance to show that they can change. If you don't let them show it then they won't change. Wow I needed you recently to make me realise that people take advantage of my willingness to change for them
Thank you for making this video, I saw all of this drama happen but I was hoping for you to make a video about it so I dont have to read it all myself 😂
@jakez5227 I do not. I can say I'm an extremely skeptical person when it comes to any accusation pretty much ever and my standards for proof are very, very high.
Yeah, this was kinda triggering for me but I watched the video because I know you treat these things with care. And I wanted to be aware. I've been involved in toxic relationships (bpd friend included) and all this made me think about how luckily I dodged several bullets. I still have problems with toxicity and I feel the urge to block all of these people because I dont wanna even see any of this. I dont want this in my space. I'm sick. thank you Aaron
This kind of video hits harder after you’ve been in that type of relationship. It’s a serious thing, I hope they learn and grow but idk… some people either don’t want help or they think they need help
My thing is why is anyone else getting involved? Selena shouldn't have made this a public issue in the first place. Obviously she was a big part of the cause behind this situation, but at the end of the day, it is a situation between two people. She dragged his friend into the situation and then belittled him for things he said many years ago. It highlights what a bad person she is, but beyond that, it isn't anyone else's issue or buisiness. People going online to harrass any of them or to demand apologies is silly. Just because someone is a content creator does not mean that they are required to apologize for something they've said that was not directed at the person wanting an apology, nor are they needing to feel responsible toward others when the situation didn't involve them. If anything the three people in the situation owe each other an apology, and it seems it is best that she is no longer their friends. Beyond that, it isn't something that anyone else should be getting involved with, in my opinion.
I had an ex and a few ex-friends use psychological/emotional abuse to blame another friends unalive attempt. That topic is a triggering/PTSD topic for me; so when brought on without warning, I dissociate. In doing so, I black out and am not aware of what's going on around me. My ex and my ex-friend said because of this; I am to blame for a friends unalive attempt; because he had just without warning said he wanted to end his existence. By doing this, I dissociated/blacked out and didn't respond. That friend then left the call and apparently attempted to end their life. Because of this; I was blamed numerous times and still to this day am told I was the soul reason for their attempt. The person in question doesn't even blame me; yet my ex and ex friend still tell everyone that associates with me; that I was the reason. This kind of behavior is disgusting and deplorable. I wouldn't wish this on someone I truly despise. Emotional and Psychological abuse is disgusting practices and definitely need to be called out when they are attempted.
What I don’t understand is, why are people words enough to accuse selene? She presented a ton of screenshots and explaining things. And then june’s gf shows blurry screenshots and the other person doesn’t really show any it’s so suspicious to me. I don’t understand. If she did it SO much why would none of them have any proof? It makes no sense
Honestly the best course of action going forward is to hope they all will show how they're willing to change for the better rather than telling. I don't think persecuting them online is the answer.
@@alexisphade4486 because you make lots of assumptions. first that i am actually going to watch the full video. second that i remember in detail the specifics of the information that was shown on twitter. third that i care enough to check if the information presented in the video was what was shown on twitter today. and lastly that the video was made within the last 24 hours, as far as me or you know this video was made days ago. but really if you need to know why i comment on an aaronduke video within the first 30 seconds of clicking on it would be to boost the mans analytics and push it out to more people, commenting some random shit, leaving a like and having the video up in the background helps content creators a ton on yt.
It really does seem that there is more than enough blame to go around in this situation. None of it at all excusing the behavior of the others. I hope all of them get the help and clarity that they need in their life. But I will choose to just not engage with any of them in any fashion.
I hate hearing about people using suicide as a weapon. I’ve gone back and forth with it for years now and I’m so glad my fiancé knows I would never use it against her. It’s just my own battle that she voluntarily helps me get through.
Honestly, from my standpoint on this whole thing is everyone being the people talked about here all of them are in the wrong. I feel more bad for the communities that are involved in this, they never asked for this stuff they are just protecting their Content Creator/Streamer. This is quite the saddest thing I've seen in a while.
Dbd is full of mental health problems in its community. Thats why there is always drama. Most people are extremely sensitive and impossible to even have a normal convo with. Not all but most.
This case is similar with my former twitch and dead by daylight friend. He being manipulative over our female mutual friends, controlling them and pulled a lot of fake ass story like he injured his wrists blocking a metal pipes, dying from certain diseases or illnesses like liver failure and etc. Now it makes me wonder why people like this exist among dbd or twitch streamer community?
I knew yhis was BPD before it was even said. I have BPD and I have demonstrated these behaviours (im a grown ass woman now and ive lived and learned and atoned since) and if this disorder isnt monitored and/or treated it just becomes a festering pile of shite. I genuinely feel for anyone caught in the sights of a toxic borderline because they are 100% Hell. I was never this horrid and toxic but it could have happened had I not made an attempt on my life and survived, hit rock bottom, grew tf up and took accountability. Words dont mean shit if you cant act on it, as Aaron said. The best apology is changed behaviour.
Ones actions cannot be overshadowed by the others. They both played a part in destroying the relationship. They both did wrong and both parties actions were absolutely disgusting but now they have a chance to do better in the future. Maybe it could lead them all to be friends again some how but I seriously doubt that as a possibility. It's probably better off they go their separate ways anyway.
I have no idea who any of these people are. I play DBD for fun and am not involved in any of the drama that seems to surround this gaming community. However, I think you're an eloquent and brilliant speaker and like watching your videos. I wish all involved the best and hope they can find peace. 💜
They were all equally cutthroat with each other. This isn't the case of 2 guys vs 1 girl. All 3 of them were toxic to each other. I don't think it's wise to bring sexism into this. If all parties are consciously aware of what they're doing then sexualizing 1 girl vs 2 guys is out the window. They all need to seek help. As for June, my husband is a disabled veteran and even he is embarrassed and ashamed of June's actions. June's actions is the reason why veterans get tossed to the bottom of the barrel when there is a legit veteran crisis and people ignore it. This is truly embarrassing for all parties, but I'm more disappointed and disgusted with June's behavior.
7:34 - 8:35 THIS I literally had this exact same conversation with my husband last night. People scream and shout for accountability and apologies, but when they get that, it's "not good enough"? I have never interacted with any of these streamers, probably never will, so I'm not just saying this because I'm a sub or a follower or anything like that. You need to give people chances to fulfil their vow to do and be better. It's not an overnight thing. Of course, there are some things that shouldn't be overlooked, like 'Ukulele Girl', but when they own up to it, accept it. And like you said, if it turns out that they didn't mean it and are still the same in a few weeks or months, then shit on them. But it just boils my blood when people use the "WAH that's not good enough" approach
Big yikes. I only have watched Swarm less than a handful of times because his vids get recommended to me. That being said I liked his stuff but I don't watch him a lot. So I have no knowledge of these events and I didn't even know Selena and Junebug existed. Just from the information in this video there a few take aways for me. And I am only speaking from the evidence in this video and the written word documents. I've been around toxic people who manipulate and do some of the things June and Selena have done to get attention or have control. I am so much happier not having that type of toxicity in my life. If anyone is trying to pull that on you...pulling you away from genuine people who care about you, isolating you, or making you feel like garbage every time you talk to them....cut them out of your life. It is hard in the moment because sometimes you feel a sense of duty to help them (if you have known them for awhile) and depending on how deep their claws are in you, you can't always see outside this bubble they have created and put you in. Swarm I feel like what put in that sense of duty to help June for example. Digging up 6 year old tweets is part of while cancel culture sucks. People say and do really stupid crap and with the internet it is documented more and more. But I also believe in paying attention to what someone has done recently. Has Swarm said any of that horrible language recently? (I don't really know because I don't watch him) If he does and there is evidence, then yes that is shitty. But if you are bringing up 6 year old tweets to get a rise and reaction I don't think that is necessarily fair. To base someone's life on something they tweeted 6 years ago. Swarm is 23? So he was around 17 when those tweets were written.... Do you know how many stupid things teen boys (and girls) say? the only difference is most are not documented. I'd say anyone in this situation deserve to have a second chance it perhaps would be him. I believe people can grow and change. Just because you say something horrible 6 years ago doesn't mean you are doing it now. Just him taking accountability shows growth in my eyes. A lot changes mentally between 17 and 23 years old. Maturity and developments has big leaps until around 28 when it slows down and things become more set in our brains. Again, I don't know if he still uses that language especially when Selena wrote that. Could be one last dig to try to discredit him and June. That being said Selena, June, and Swarm need to stop hanging out. They need to work on themselves. Selena and June both did horrible things. 2 people doing crappy things just creates more crap. That crap spreads and infects other people whether you mean it to or not. So they need to stop spending time together and get professional help.
What June did was terrible, but Selina royally fucked up, and was JUST as manipulative and abusive. She played innocent when she definitely wasnt she should still apologize for telling people to KYS, for being just as manipulative and abusive.
This is one of those situations where everyone is toxic and in the wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right and I think as a society we need to start to understand that things can be grey and none one is truly perfect. However with these three they are all clearly in various degrees in the wrong
Swarm is the only person I've ever heard of in this video, I watch a lot of content creators around DBD, but something about him always just sets my hackles off. I don't know why, but he just always struck me as not a good person. I don't find it surprising to have those feelings validated. I hope they all can find and get the help that they need, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that they all are the bad guys in the situation. Hopefully, they can all grow as people and I wish them the best.
Because we were all perfect when we were 17 years old. People make mistakes especially when they’re young. And for June, the man is a vet with mental illness. We see flaws in these people because they are content creators. We too all have flaws
I didn't know that any of these creators existed in the first place. I usually stay the hell away from DBD Twitter. So, I will continue to support none of these people.
June and Selena seem straight up gross to me. I suppose with the context June may have just been trying to hurt Selena because of the clear toxic relationship they had or maybe when you put two despicable people together that's how the relationship they have works. Also using that language then exposing June knowing full well especially on the internet she will get exposed if you have done the same things. The whole reclaiming the slurs is down right weird. Does she think it would be cool and make her look strong? I guess to some people where their disability isn't visible it won't have the same effect as someone who has a clear and visible disability. People need to learn only because a slur can be applied to yourself in a negative way doesn't mean you can "reclaim it" the word was a lost cause upon its creation. It's definitions was to make you feel less. It can not be "saved" Nah, I don't like them. They all need to get in the bin. We have better dbd creators we can all support.
Saying teririble things is very bad however, I think pulling tweets or comments that are very old is a bit far fetched. The internet is very different than it used to be. not justifying anything by any means it just seems to be a bit of a stretch. Just think someone went to research to find anything that they could have used against swarm. (old tweets). I watch swarm every time he is live and play opens with him alot and people do change in time. Just would like to put out there that I think swarm is a wonderful person. It seems no one cares what someone can do, they only care about what they did. I can't speak on june or selena nor will I because I am not familar with them.
I had an ex bf who lied to me about dying. Back when Covid was a strong force. I remember he’d FaceTime me from hospital barely talking. Would just slowly and quietly talk while I sobbed my heart out. Calls would drop and a nurse would start texting me couple hours later saying I should say my goodbyes before he becomes “conscious” again. One last mind game before calling it quits with me.
@@AaronDukeYT it’s fine. It’s been 3 years now and im still stuck. Fighting so many emotions and thoughts it’s hard. Especially when I had so much before. But I lost my friends my family. Pushed everyone away. Couldn’t even say anything or stick up for myself cause he’d have “seizures” and I’d feel terrible. Thank you tho for your kind reply. It means a lot
They both were in the wrong, hopefully they will all better themselves. Abusive relationships isn’t something to take lightly or any of those topics really. Peace and love guys you are all enough and I appreciate everyone of you!
Wow, what an utter mess this is. I don't really know Junebug, although I've heard the name. All I can say is that I feel really bad for the man. His actions were indeed horrible and inexcusable, but if he is indeed suffering from depression and other mental illnesses, then I can only imagine the anguish he must have gone through. As someone that deals with some mental health issues myself, I can tell you that it can be exhausting at times dealing with all that. Adding some toxic person to the mix just makes it worse. Again, that's not an excuse for his actions at all, but I can only hope he gets the help he truly needs and can grow as a person from all this. As for this Selena, while she didn't deserve that treatment from June at all, I can't really feel bad for her. She just comes across as horribly manipulative and an overall toxic person. As for Swarm, well, I never liked the guy to begin with. Almost every video or clip I've seen with him, it's just him and his SWF going out of their way to bully killers, yelling about how they got shit on, and acting like they pulled off some high skill plays when in reality, they wouldn't be able to pull off half of that crap without comms and what not. I feel like he's an overall toxic person and his "apology" was most likely the generic "I'm sorry I got caught being a piece of crap" type of apology. That being said, I hope these people can move on and get the help they need, especially Junebug.
It is indeed very hard to pull off "bullying killers" while flying solo. It's not them being bad just because they can't pull it off solo. And to add to this, I've seen them queue up without comms and still bully killers, most of the times just 2 of them queuing up together. I've never felt that Swarm means any of his words he's saying about the killers in his games. It's just in the moment in the match, and also a little bit of his image as a streamer. He's also a very good killer.
@@Barec76Yes it's a game and yes these are mechanics. But certain mechanics can be abused or spammed to point it's intentional what the actual purpose is. That's why bully squads became a term. Downplaying what people can use these mechanics for won't make it go away, it'll just make it worse.
@@Barec76 quite the opposite. It only emphasises that it can happen everywhere. Even though the deliberate toxic use of game mechanics in order to make someone else's time more miserable than it needs to be.
It's crazy cause I actually had faced against Junebug and his SWF and had a good time last year, I found him by playing a match as Wesker and messing around with them as they tried getting head on stuns on me and goofing off, one of the funniest matches I ever played. I went to his chat after the game and had a good time talking bout how I was the Wesker and gave everyone a ggs, stayed in the stream to watch more of his antics and enjoyed it, needless to say it's sad to see that behind all that this kind of horrid stuff was going on.
I already don't follow Swarm. I found him to be fairly toxic when I used to play DBD regularly. Ran into him a few times like 3 years ago, I think before he became well-known, disliked basically every second of our time together. Then his community was also not much better, kinda throwing a few attacks at me in my comments like a year after I uploaded a couple videos of my encounters with him. To the point where one specific account tried twisting my words in a video of mine where I say, "I gotta kill this" when I was referring to a pallet and they spun it like I was being racist for referring to the Adam Francis character in the match as a "this." So yeah, I think he's a relatively not good person and some of his community seem to follow suit. Kinda glad people are seeing him as what I suspected 3 years ago now.
He's not a bad person😂. If you watch his streams they are relatively chill, and his community is nice for the most part. A lot can change in 3 years. I hate when people hate on somone because of one encounter. someone isn't a bad person if they make a couple mistakes.
@kazdog465 after watching this video, I'm gonna guess he hasn't exactly improved as a human being. But okay. Either way, I don't care. I just don't and won't follow the dude. If you want to support him, that's fine, but I personally don't want to.
Went back and watched your video, and they were not playing toxic at all. They were literally just playing the game as a team while you berated them with insults the entire match. If anything you were the toxic one. Really funny how you still have a hate boner after 3 years and feel the need to comment while simultaneously claiming you "don't care". Also you have no idea if the comments from the accounts a year after you posted are from Swarm's community. Honestly your own video just makes you look bad and a lot of those comments are just people pointing that out. It's crazy how people can just be so confidently wrong about a situation. Honestly you are like Selena and June in this with how you are leaving out information and bending the truth.
LOLOL I missed the end of your video. You went out of your way to message Swarm after the game to complain for your video. And even in chat messages, you were the toxic one. He told you GG, and you called him a "Class A Douchebag". Unreal.
@beebud6483 where exactly in my messages was I being toxic? And yeah, I called him that after he was starting to be one in his messages. But only within my video not directly to him, still rude of me but, you make it sound like I replied to his "GG" with that, which I didn't. I replied back with GG. But okay. I guess you're harvesting some true resentment over this, so... sorry you're hurt by a video I made that no one cares about except you?
This was a highly requested video from many people. I hope I've done justice on the topic for those who wanted to see it.
I think you did this was a messy situation and honestly trying to pick apart is tricky and as more people in there friend group give there perspective the full Image is going to get even more bizarre
I can only imagine so! If it’s worth it, I’ll make a follow up video, but we’ll have to wait and see
@@AaronDukeYT there goods and bad to a follow up video on one end it lets people stay updated and they can form there own perspective. On the other hand it brings more to the drama and can stop the improving process and the end of the day people make mistakes what matters is what they do with them a mistake is only a mistake if you dont learn from it and improve from it.
You hit the nail on the head with this one like usual Aaron! Keep up your great work! I had initially heard rumblings from smaller dbd creators of June being very antagonistic towards people he would end up playing against.
One night i was queued against him when trying to play killer. And now knowing all of what's happened between him and Selena, even Selena's own actions, i also won't be supporting either of them.
I don't wanna know what would have happened if I had played out that match against June himself and with his SWF friends possibly ready to go off on me in EGC.
thank you, i know dbd twitter was pretty hard on you for not.
thank you for not being spiteful because of that and doing what is right
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dead by Daylight Twitter “tea” channels start becoming a thing. The drama is never about the game, just the people 💀
Very true. People like this are everywhere and in every community
There is one but they are a heavy attention seeker and will call anything bad for hate clicks
@@AaronDukeYTI think it’s important these people are held accountable and that’s all we can really do
DbD Twitter is always fighting lol
Where have you been.. these types of videos have been a thing for years.. heard of tur Jay and spooknjukes? 😅
Best way to describe this is a bunch of dis functional people trying to be together as friends and just not working out but I hope they all move on and improve as individuals
I hope so too. Some people just create toxic relationships when all is said and done
Ive literally never heard of any of these people and any of this drama until now. But jesus christ this is insane.
i feel sorriest for junebug's girlfriend in all of this. she was cheated on seemingly multiple times and wasn't treated well by june or selena in all of this, but her twitlonger makes it seem like she isn't blaming her own boyfriend enough at all. whilst it's their relationship to solve and work on, i hope that she finds the love for herself to not tolerate the behaviour and know that she can do so much better.
I’ve seen this happen personally where people who are victims of their toxic partner will often blame the interfering party. They often realize a bit too late and when the damage has already been done, or sometimes even years later when they think they’ve broken up on “good terms”. obviously we have no right to know anything about junebug’s partner, but i do echo your sentiment exactly
@@pasttense69yeah this exactly. it’s sadly a really common pattern and i just hope she will find happiness.
They both are pretty messed up individuals they need some actual therapy and help this is very disturbing.
I believe they are both looking into therapy which is a good start
I believe the person who made this comment is filled with hatred and also needs therapy, lol.
@@gamecub911 I don’t have hatred for anyone, but what they did to eachother was awful. I’m not even sure how you can come to that realization about me when the ppl who need it the most is in the video?
@@Kiddo_williams I'm very very very late but, he just said that to get a reaction don't listen to anyone who messes with you. I don't think your full of anger I think you are full of concern for them. But only you know how you feel no one knows, not me, not him, just you.
Who else just doesn’t have twitter?
Unfortunately not me 😂
Me
I have so much respect for you, Aaron. You can post the most fun, light hearted content while also being able to approach serious topics in a very mature and respectful manner. You're such an amazing and needed part of this community.
Thank you for the kind words 💙
ive played with junebug and two of his friends in survivor solo queue. they were rude in the pregame chat telling me to put away my flashlight, and rude in the end-game chat too. they're the worst kind of people.
This is all why I don’t fuck with anyone on a personal level from the DBD community
Fair, I don’t think you should do that with any online personality tbh. You never truly know who you’re dealing with
@@AaronDukeYT i agree!
seriously, i always keep my internet life and my personal life separate. i don't know why more people don't.
I saw Cheryl. I click on Cheryl because I love Cheryl. I did not see Cheryl. I am now disappointed in both the dbd community and the fact there was no Cheryl.
Yeah, Aaron. Why you click bait, bro? Just kidding, love your videos.
I too grieve the absence of Cheryl
I hate when content creators use characters as their "OCS"
I despise this guy for using Cheryl as his avatar! Guy's probably never touched a Silent Hill game in his life!!
That U turn of Selena's shit was insane literally both sides where fucked up hope they get help bc ong this was the most disturbing thing ive seen.
It was certainly a surprise for a lot of people that’s for sure!
As someone with borderline, its something few people understand and has massively bad stigma attached to it. If someone had a better understood illness, such as schizophrenia, I doubt the reaction would be the same. It took me almost a decade of therapy to be able to have my borderline under control. When you have borderline, it causes your feelings and emotions to literally be 10 to 100x stronger than they normally would be, which makes it impossible to think, and often creates a situation in which you do not have control. You lash out in the most cruel of ways, desperate in your desire to not be abandoned, whether perceived or real. While you are still accountable for your actions, you are at the same time not fully responsible for them either. The best thing you can do is prevent episodes, and have a good support network around you to help you stay connected and tethered to reality. DBT helps tremendously. The problem is that having a support network (which is required to be healthy) is extremely difficult, as even being friends with someone who has borderline (especially who has not had or is undergoing treatment) is hard. You will often find yourself truly alone and abandoned, which is your worst fear, and you will know that it is entirely your own fault. This can and does cause spirals in which it's hard to not give up on life, because even logically having friends or a relationship is extremely hard and can feel impossible..
I could go on and on about this, as I really wish there was more understanding of borderline, both so people can be more empathetic to people suffering from it, as well as better be able to protect themselves from it.
I’m glad you covered this. I’ve seen a lot of content creators criticize you for “being behind on this” or “not talking about XYZ,” meanwhile none of them have made videos to address the issue despite some having big influential platforms themselves. We as content creators have to hold each other accountable and when you’re dealing with content creators of their size, it is SO important for their peers to address them. So thank you Aaron for doing your part to help hold our community members accountable. ❤
Thank you for your support! 💙
Those chronically online DBD Weirdos are funny... They sit on Discord 24/7 and post more than anybody else on Twitter but are never the ones posting these types of videos or anything.
They’ll bark at all the creators they deem big for not doing XYZ but in their free time (24/7 365) they’ll just spectate and throw rocks from glass houses
This is a perfect example of why these types of issues should not be arbitrated in the court of public opinion. People see a curated story and will take sides, cancel, etc. I hope everyone here gets the help they need and can find some peace with themselves.
I really didn’t find Swarms apology sincere in the slightest and to be honest if he was never called out those tweets would still be up. Being 17-18 years old in 2017 means he was old enough to know better and na, I don’t think he’s stopped using the N-Word since then. If he really wants to apologize make an actual video addressing the tweets. A shitty notes app apology not even acknowledging the words said. Cmon Aaron, that is unacceptable and you know it.
both of them engaged in horrible behaviours with each other. and both should be held accountable. both should see this as a growing opportunity. but i would say faking deaths and surgeries, and cheating on their partner multiple times and with multiple girls is considerably worse. its perfectly possible to recognize the poor behaviour of the two, whilst acknowledging one is considerably more immoral.
I think pointing at one being worse than the other has the potential to diminish the severity of the “not as bad one” if we’re not careful. I think it’s better just to condemn both behaviours
@@AaronDukeYTexcellent vid, can u make more vids like this
If there’s stuff to talk about and I have value to add to the conversation, I’m definitely happy to
june is an absolute garbage partner, i feel sad his gf is still sticking by him despite continuously cheating :/
@@AaronDukeYT that's fair. but i also feel like that this type of neutrality only benefits bad behaviour. making them equals undermines the horrible cheating and betrayal that was going on. its horrible to cheat with someone but a person who wants to cheat will always find a way. and it is especially worrisome to cheat with someone you met through your community (they met through open lobbies). thats why i feel a need to acknowledge that there is a difference. but i understand your perspective too, and thats fine. the bare minimum is to listen to both and condemn bad actions from both, whatever ppl do with their opinions after, i dont take issue with
I don't know if any of them can ever redeem what they did but I hope they all find peace and become better people
I definitely think they had a toxic friendship, but it is worth mentioning that I think Junebug’s actions are far worse and I’ve already been a judge of his character just having seen the way he treats others over time.
Like, maybe he’ll seek help or something but his behavior is absolutely not what I would call the behavior of a “good person” in more situations than even just this. In fact I found some of the screenshots in Selina’s doc to be completely unsurprising just knowing how Junebug can be towards others.
I haven’t had any interactions with either of them before so I had no previous knowledge. I’m judging the behaviour and evidence I can see from all of this
Oh absolutely. To be fair, before I would’ve just said that June was like, a jerk. All of this is kinda unsurprising, but still pretty shocking from all parties involved tbh. I do hope they can go on to be better people in the future,
Great video, I do think you covered the nuance of this situation really well! I was in a WoW guild that imploded, and the leaders in it had a similarly toxic relationship with one another. It’s always extremely important to fully understand all context so no one escapes accountability!
Don’t minimize Selinas actions though, The only blameless victim here is CiCi.
@@Pablo-pr4vg I definitely agree, Selina is guilty of doing some pretty awful stuff herself.
I probably worded my initial statement quite poorly to be honest, I don't want to minimize the damage any of their actions do. Hurling slurs at people and telling them to end themselves is pretty beyond the pale itself.
Their friend group sounds really mean, and it sound like they were really feeding off each others' toxicity a lot.
@@brad1426 It’s cool, I wasn’t insinuating you said she was at no fault just that a lot of people put the focus on mostly June when the whole group were bad and deserved each other clearly (especially with how Selina tried to pull herself up from the deep waters by dragging down her old friend group for the first couple days of the drama).
I haven’t even heard much of it. Damn. Thanks for the video
Having bpd makes life so much harder when it comes to social situations, suicidality is rampant in us.
Hey everyone! I'm going to try to keep my response as short as possible for now. I wrote down en essay of my thoughts, but I'll share the main highlights. First and foremost, Borderline Personality Disorder is not something to bat an eye at. In extreme cases, it can be immensely difficult to deal with. The fear of abandonment it cause can and does push many people over the edge, similar to what we saw here. This is also worsened by outside influences and even can make someone more susceptible to trauma such as this. Now, for my actual stance on this... I will not condone nor have I ever condoned behavior such as this. The way all parties acted was extremely out of line. However, I firmly believe that it is NOT ok to spread hate to any single one of them. They have at the very least stated that they'd like to change and grow, and we NEED to let them do that on their own. Hating on them, and even some cases of what we think is supporting them, does not help in the slightest. In fact, in my experience, these things can backfire immensely and make an already bad situation even worse. In conclusion, don’t hate them, don’t excuse their behavior, allow them to heal in the way they see fit because that is the only way it’s possible for them to get better.
Here are some hotlines for anyone who might need help as well for the American audience:
Mental Health Emergency hotline: 988
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-274-8255
Suicide Prevention, Awareness, and Support: www.suicide.org
Crisis Text Line: Text REASON to 741741
And of course, if you have an urgent medical emergency, please call 911
as someone w bpd, i appreciate this very much!
really glad to see someone point this out!
this video sums up everything that has happened so far perfectly ty👏
Thank you
The situation in the beginning sounds similar to what happened with an old Lets Play channel i used to watch (that will remain nameless)
It was a channel about two women who were irl best friends had been since their teens playing video games together it was great. they used to upload pretty regularly.
Until one day out of nowhere they stopped. both their twitter accounts went quiet and nothing happened for about 6 months. Until one of them, we'll call M came back on twitter to explain what happened. Basically, it was discovered that the other woman, S was a massive raging alcoholic, and not only had she hid it, she'd lied about it for years pretending to have some mysterious degenerative illness that caused blackouts and brain fogginess. M literally thought S was dieing for a long time. M was even planning to pay for S to go to Disney world untill it all was discovered.
holy shit.. i know exactly who you're talking about and i've been wondering for a while what happened to them. i'm not on twitter anymore (haven't been since S was going through trying to figure out what her "mysterious illness" was) so i didn't see what happened, but holy shit.
Finally you are talking about this one. Ty for the video 👍
No worries
Every story has more than one side, which is why it's so important to never just believe 1 version of the story, no matter if it's a close friend or not, always check the facts. That being said, they both are at fault, none of them are free of sin so prosecution of any of the parties is, imho, unnecessary, they need to fix their own issues and no third parties can help them with that, except for a therapist.
Edit: I ate a whole 3 words at the beginning lol
I’d just like to thank you for consistently shedding unbiased light on these issues. It’s extremely refreshing to watch such a rational and level-headed creator in this community :)
Thank you for your support! 💙
aaron, you are by far the best content creator when it comes to spreading awareness and showing bad things/people in the community. great job once again.
Thank you, that means a lot 💙
@@AaronDukeYT always mr sir
i think with all of them, we need to wait and see how they grow with their actions. but the one i'm going to be more strict with is, really, Selena and Swarm. both of them were fully in control of their actions and while none of them took accountability before being called out, Selena intentionally hid the bad things she did (thus showing she knew they were bad) and Swarm would never have even discussed his racist past unless he was called out. June i think needs professional help more than he needs to be persecuted by the internet. as someone who is best friend's with a person with BPD, while i find June's behavior awful, i find myself unable to fully blame him for it. people with BPD often have people in their social circle that are called Favorite People, and these FPs often have a lot of control over how the person with BPD sees themselves. as an FP to my friend, i do my best to NEVER use that control, full stop. i don't want to ever hurt the person i am friends with or use their mental illness against them. it is plausible, to me, that Selena may have been an FP of June's, and his actions are those of a desperate person trying to get away from someone who is abusive but who also holds a significant amount of his self esteem in their hands. June doesn't need to be persecuted or hated, he needs a therapist and he needs love and support from people who actually care about him and will be able to help him be the person that he truly is
I'm only on the girlfriends side 🤷🏽♀️
When you do this to your friend then there are a lot of red flags and bells going off on that person being mentally unwell.
Bro I've only been on Dead by Daylight Twitter for a few days and I can already tell that's just filled with drama It reminds me of being back in high school because there's so much drama and toxicity.
Your words at 2:50 hit me so hard with what ive been going through that just hearing something outloud that's been in my mind for so long lifts a strange weight off my chest. Ty for that. Shame this kind of manipulation even happens.
damn love i hope you're okay, take care of yourself
odd take on the swarm “apology”. it was shitty; from top to bottom. from the lazy three “paragraph” essay in the notes app, to not even stating the reason why he had to apologize in the first place so newer ppl who see it probably wont know, to using time as an excuse like racism expires, then just to go on to stream the next day like nothing happened. as a black person that was not an apology from a place of remorse, that was an apology because he got caught. he had 7 YEARS to apologize for the tweets and hold himself accountable, but he rode the high horse of having a big platform all until it came back to bite him in the ass. people have a right to call him out on the half assed apology sorry not sorry lmao.
I agree, it wasn’t the best apology. But, again, when is a creators apology ever seen as “good”? I don’t think there’s anything to be gained from just shitting on it and not giving him the chance to act on his words and promises
@@AaronDukeYTso if someone puts out a crappy apology we should just accept it because we’ll they tried? There have been plenty of good apology videos. Idubz has probably done and said more vile things than these 3 and manages to come out with a sincere and believable apology. I’m not saying we shouldn’t accept growth but that’s comes in actions. Like a little paragraph on twitter. He didn’t even bother to show his face to “apologize.” His apology really should be judged by those it actually effects
@@AaronDukeYTI dont think you understand how apologies work. One of the most important parts of an apology is: tell US/the victim what you are actually going to do better yourself. Like literally list steps, plans of action, etc. Make it clear the types of efforts you are going to make and make it clear that there's a way for people (or the victim, particularly if it's a private apology) to actually hold you accountable and not for this stuff to get swept under the ground. You (Duke) keep saying we should give time for people to grow. No, that's just sweeping it under the rug. If they have made public f*ckups then they need to make public amendments that show they are changing. Either that or they stop being a public figure (stop being a streamer). That's what accountability is.
Mom I'm famous! Lol saw a tweet of mine 😂
But thank you for this one Aaron. This was definitely one that needed addressing & I'm happy it has both sides and the negative actions.
I’ll make sure to make your tweet bigger next time! 💙
dbd twitter is so crazy right now. thank u aaron for making a video on this!!!
Is there anywhere i can read all these documents im having hard time finding them.
12:24 does anyone know where I can read the doc for myself?
My heart goes out to you because this is not easy to do!
I also agree with Aaron when he says durin his video, Action is so much louder than words, than words itself. his 💯% accurate.
We all need to learn from this and pay more attention who is around us and watch out for signs.
I'm trying to keep this short because it's a touchy subject.
I really do hope they get this sorted out, i really do. I want to see them become better people not only just for themselves but people around them as well. Just by admitting is a huge step and basically saying "s**t, I f***ked up, doesnt mean your any less of the person who you are but seeing yourself admitting just shows that your going in the right direction making that first step. I really do hope they sort it out and move on from this and definitely learn not do it again.
Its 1 baby step at a time ❤ and i do hope when things have settled down, Just by apologising and forgiving those who done wrong on both ends, just shows your willing to corporate, let things settle and as we say it in England 'leave it all behind and under the bridge so we move on' do your own thing, start smiling and start being positive ❤ treat those how you wanted to be treated which love and support 🥰
Aaron, Thank you again for sharing another great content for another awareness. I wish I could fit everything all in but I can't ❤
With so much love and support, I hope your doing well and keeping yourself and your family safe and healthy ❤ Thank you 🥰
What’s crazy was I playing against him on disturbed ward as wesker 4kd against him and I told my friends I beat him and I was told this controversy with Junebug and I was shocked
who was junebugs girlfriend? i wanted to read the full document, or does anyone have a link to it
Yessssss people need a chance to show that they can change. If you don't let them show it then they won't change.
Wow I needed you recently to make me realise that people take advantage of my willingness to change for them
Exactly that, there’s no point is calling for people to change if we won’t let them
I was big fans of lot of these creators and now knowing all of this make me sick, and thanks for bring this to the public.
Hope June gets the help they really need.
You should include all these docs in the description
Thank you for making this video, I saw all of this drama happen but I was hoping for you to make a video about it so I dont have to read it all myself 😂
Understandable 😂😂
people in this community be wild. haven't been playing DBD long, but i've already been shocked about a hundred times.
Ay loved the video, keep up the amazing work
Thank you!
"Only time will tell." Time as in the OVER FIVE YEARS between when the Tweets were made and now?
And did he still use the slurs? Do you know?
@jakez5227 I do not. I can say I'm an extremely skeptical person when it comes to any accusation pretty much ever and my standards for proof are very, very high.
May you be blessed with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and people who know you because you deserve it.
Yeah, this was kinda triggering for me but I watched the video because I know you treat these things with care. And I wanted to be aware. I've been involved in toxic relationships (bpd friend included) and all this made me think about how luckily I dodged several bullets. I still have problems with toxicity and I feel the urge to block all of these people because I dont wanna even see any of this. I dont want this in my space. I'm sick. thank you Aaron
Thank you for watching, and I’m sorry if this brought up any negative emotions for you 💙
This kind of video hits harder after you’ve been in that type of relationship. It’s a serious thing, I hope they learn and grow but idk… some people either don’t want help or they think they need help
This feels like one of those movies where both parties are evil and you're conflicted on who to root for if you _have_ to root for a "lesser evil."
Is this why swarm and Alby isn’t friends nm?? And if not why isn’t there friends nm
My thing is why is anyone else getting involved? Selena shouldn't have made this a public issue in the first place. Obviously she was a big part of the cause behind this situation, but at the end of the day, it is a situation between two people. She dragged his friend into the situation and then belittled him for things he said many years ago. It highlights what a bad person she is, but beyond that, it isn't anyone else's issue or buisiness. People going online to harrass any of them or to demand apologies is silly. Just because someone is a content creator does not mean that they are required to apologize for something they've said that was not directed at the person wanting an apology, nor are they needing to feel responsible toward others when the situation didn't involve them. If anything the three people in the situation owe each other an apology, and it seems it is best that she is no longer their friends. Beyond that, it isn't something that anyone else should be getting involved with, in my opinion.
I had an ex and a few ex-friends use psychological/emotional abuse to blame another friends unalive attempt. That topic is a triggering/PTSD topic for me; so when brought on without warning, I dissociate. In doing so, I black out and am not aware of what's going on around me.
My ex and my ex-friend said because of this; I am to blame for a friends unalive attempt; because he had just without warning said he wanted to end his existence. By doing this, I dissociated/blacked out and didn't respond. That friend then left the call and apparently attempted to end their life.
Because of this; I was blamed numerous times and still to this day am told I was the soul reason for their attempt. The person in question doesn't even blame me; yet my ex and ex friend still tell everyone that associates with me; that I was the reason.
This kind of behavior is disgusting and deplorable. I wouldn't wish this on someone I truly despise. Emotional and Psychological abuse is disgusting practices and definitely need to be called out when they are attempted.
What I don’t understand is, why are people words enough to accuse selene? She presented a ton of screenshots and explaining things. And then june’s gf shows blurry screenshots and the other person doesn’t really show any it’s so suspicious to me. I don’t understand. If she did it SO much why would none of them have any proof? It makes no sense
They do have proof. Videos, screenshots, correlating stories. As much proof as what Selena has
How were they blurry?
Get your vision checked your bias is make your eyes worse
If you open it up on pc rather than on phone, the screenshots aren't blurry. Hope that helps, took me a moment too.
Honestly the best course of action going forward is to hope they all will show how they're willing to change for the better rather than telling. I don't think persecuting them online is the answer.
Honestly the whole situation is messed up, I hope it gets resolved
hope you caught the update to this that happened today some new stuff came to light like 7 hours ago
if you watched the video before commenting you would know he does add it lmfao
I did indeed
@@MrBrsk how about no 🤗
@@alexisphade4486 because you make lots of assumptions. first that i am actually going to watch the full video. second that i remember in detail the specifics of the information that was shown on twitter. third that i care enough to check if the information presented in the video was what was shown on twitter today. and lastly that the video was made within the last 24 hours, as far as me or you know this video was made days ago. but really if you need to know why i comment on an aaronduke video within the first 30 seconds of clicking on it would be to boost the mans analytics and push it out to more people, commenting some random shit, leaving a like and having the video up in the background helps content creators a ton on yt.
It really does seem that there is more than enough blame to go around in this situation. None of it at all excusing the behavior of the others. I hope all of them get the help and clarity that they need in their life. But I will choose to just not engage with any of them in any fashion.
I hate hearing about people using suicide as a weapon. I’ve gone back and forth with it for years now and I’m so glad my fiancé knows I would never use it against her. It’s just my own battle that she voluntarily helps me get through.
Honestly, from my standpoint on this whole thing is everyone being the people talked about here all of them are in the wrong. I feel more bad for the communities that are involved in this, they never asked for this stuff they are just protecting their Content Creator/Streamer. This is quite the saddest thing I've seen in a while.
Dbd is full of mental health problems in its community. Thats why there is always drama. Most people are extremely sensitive and impossible to even have a normal convo with. Not all but most.
This case is similar with my former twitch and dead by daylight friend. He being manipulative over our female mutual friends, controlling them and pulled a lot of fake ass story like he injured his wrists blocking a metal pipes, dying from certain diseases or illnesses like liver failure and etc. Now it makes me wonder why people like this exist among dbd or twitch streamer community?
Both of them were horrible to each other, no way they can sugarcoat it. Hope they both can grow and improve from this.
Ruh roh... ohhhh brotherrrrr yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaw!!!!!!!!!
Thought he’d use a 2016 intro song for the intro
I knew yhis was BPD before it was even said. I have BPD and I have demonstrated these behaviours (im a grown ass woman now and ive lived and learned and atoned since) and if this disorder isnt monitored and/or treated it just becomes a festering pile of shite. I genuinely feel for anyone caught in the sights of a toxic borderline because they are 100% Hell.
I was never this horrid and toxic but it could have happened had I not made an attempt on my life and survived, hit rock bottom, grew tf up and took accountability. Words dont mean shit if you cant act on it, as Aaron said. The best apology is changed behaviour.
Fortunately, I had never heard of these two DBD creators. Unfortunately… I wish I still hadn’t. Thanks. 😟
Ones actions cannot be overshadowed by the others. They both played a part in destroying the relationship. They both did wrong and both parties actions were absolutely disgusting but now they have a chance to do better in the future. Maybe it could lead them all to be friends again some how but I seriously doubt that as a possibility. It's probably better off they go their separate ways anyway.
I have no idea who any of these people are. I play DBD for fun and am not involved in any of the drama that seems to surround this gaming community. However, I think you're an eloquent and brilliant speaker and like watching your videos. I wish all involved the best and hope they can find peace. 💜
I hope they can find peace aswell!
They were all equally cutthroat with each other. This isn't the case of 2 guys vs 1 girl. All 3 of them were toxic to each other. I don't think it's wise to bring sexism into this. If all parties are consciously aware of what they're doing then sexualizing 1 girl vs 2 guys is out the window. They all need to seek help. As for June, my husband is a disabled veteran and even he is embarrassed and ashamed of June's actions. June's actions is the reason why veterans get tossed to the bottom of the barrel when there is a legit veteran crisis and people ignore it. This is truly embarrassing for all parties, but I'm more disappointed and disgusted with June's behavior.
Sad to see junebug like this, I've played with and against him like 3-4 times which were all fun
finally someone said something because i deleted them almost a year ago
7:34 - 8:35 THIS
I literally had this exact same conversation with my husband last night. People scream and shout for accountability and apologies, but when they get that, it's "not good enough"?
I have never interacted with any of these streamers, probably never will, so I'm not just saying this because I'm a sub or a follower or anything like that. You need to give people chances to fulfil their vow to do and be better. It's not an overnight thing. Of course, there are some things that shouldn't be overlooked, like 'Ukulele Girl', but when they own up to it, accept it. And like you said, if it turns out that they didn't mean it and are still the same in a few weeks or months, then shit on them. But it just boils my blood when people use the "WAH that's not good enough" approach
Exactly. I don’t know why some people seem to not want people to actually grow and improve. They just seem to want to watch them burn
Big yikes. I only have watched Swarm less than a handful of times because his vids get recommended to me. That being said I liked his stuff but I don't watch him a lot. So I have no knowledge of these events and I didn't even know Selena and Junebug existed. Just from the information in this video there a few take aways for me. And I am only speaking from the evidence in this video and the written word documents. I've been around toxic people who manipulate and do some of the things June and Selena have done to get attention or have control. I am so much happier not having that type of toxicity in my life. If anyone is trying to pull that on you...pulling you away from genuine people who care about you, isolating you, or making you feel like garbage every time you talk to them....cut them out of your life. It is hard in the moment because sometimes you feel a sense of duty to help them (if you have known them for awhile) and depending on how deep their claws are in you, you can't always see outside this bubble they have created and put you in. Swarm I feel like what put in that sense of duty to help June for example. Digging up 6 year old tweets is part of while cancel culture sucks. People say and do really stupid crap and with the internet it is documented more and more. But I also believe in paying attention to what someone has done recently. Has Swarm said any of that horrible language recently? (I don't really know because I don't watch him) If he does and there is evidence, then yes that is shitty. But if you are bringing up 6 year old tweets to get a rise and reaction I don't think that is necessarily fair. To base someone's life on something they tweeted 6 years ago. Swarm is 23? So he was around 17 when those tweets were written.... Do you know how many stupid things teen boys (and girls) say? the only difference is most are not documented. I'd say anyone in this situation deserve to have a second chance it perhaps would be him. I believe people can grow and change. Just because you say something horrible 6 years ago doesn't mean you are doing it now. Just him taking accountability shows growth in my eyes. A lot changes mentally between 17 and 23 years old. Maturity and developments has big leaps until around 28 when it slows down and things become more set in our brains. Again, I don't know if he still uses that language especially when Selena wrote that. Could be one last dig to try to discredit him and June. That being said Selena, June, and Swarm need to stop hanging out. They need to work on themselves. Selena and June both did horrible things. 2 people doing crappy things just creates more crap. That crap spreads and infects other people whether you mean it to or not. So they need to stop spending time together and get professional help.
I shouldnt even be suprised at this point with the way this community is 😐
It just keeps going and going and going oh my gah
What June did was terrible, but Selina royally fucked up, and was JUST as manipulative and abusive. She played innocent when she definitely wasnt she should still apologize for telling people to KYS, for being just as manipulative and abusive.
This is one of those situations where everyone is toxic and in the wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right and I think as a society we need to start to understand that things can be grey and none one is truly perfect. However with these three they are all clearly in various degrees in the wrong
Swarm is the only person I've ever heard of in this video, I watch a lot of content creators around DBD, but something about him always just sets my hackles off. I don't know why, but he just always struck me as not a good person. I don't find it surprising to have those feelings validated. I hope they all can find and get the help that they need, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that they all are the bad guys in the situation. Hopefully, they can all grow as people and I wish them the best.
Because we were all perfect when we were 17 years old. People make mistakes especially when they’re young. And for June, the man is a vet with mental illness. We see flaws in these people because they are content creators. We too all have flaws
wow DBD has a lot of outside-the-game drama going on than I expected lol
ayo i got that exact same tower fan but in black
I stole mine from my gf 👀
Sometimes people ask for something and Aaron provides. Good work!
Thank you!
DbD Twitter must be on fire right now…
Oh you have no idea
I didn't know that any of these creators existed in the first place. I usually stay the hell away from DBD Twitter. So, I will continue to support none of these people.
1 minute in and i am already screaming WTF
June and Selena seem straight up gross to me. I suppose with the context June may have just been trying to hurt Selena because of the clear toxic relationship they had or maybe when you put two despicable people together that's how the relationship they have works.
Also using that language then exposing June knowing full well especially on the internet she will get exposed if you have done the same things.
The whole reclaiming the slurs is down right weird. Does she think it would be cool and make her look strong? I guess to some people where their disability isn't visible it won't have the same effect as someone who has a clear and visible disability.
People need to learn only because a slur can be applied to yourself in a negative way doesn't mean you can "reclaim it" the word was a lost cause upon its creation. It's definitions was to make you feel less. It can not be "saved"
Nah, I don't like them. They all need to get in the bin. We have better dbd creators we can all support.
Saying teririble things is very bad however, I think pulling tweets or comments that are very old is a bit far fetched. The internet is very different than it used to be. not justifying anything by any means it just seems to be a bit of a stretch. Just think someone went to research to find anything that they could have used against swarm. (old tweets). I watch swarm every time he is live and play opens with him alot and people do change in time. Just would like to put out there that I think swarm is a wonderful person. It seems no one cares what someone can do, they only care about what they did. I can't speak on june or selena nor will I because I am not familar with them.
that was a twist sheesh
Yup! Always good to do further research into these things and not jump to the first conclusion
I had an ex bf who lied to me about dying.
Back when Covid was a strong force. I remember he’d FaceTime me from hospital barely talking. Would just slowly and quietly talk while I sobbed my heart out. Calls would drop and a nurse would start texting me couple hours later saying I should say my goodbyes before he becomes “conscious” again. One last mind game before calling it quits with me.
I’m sorry you went through that 💙
@@AaronDukeYT it’s fine. It’s been 3 years now and im still stuck. Fighting so many emotions and thoughts it’s hard. Especially when I had so much before. But I lost my friends my family. Pushed everyone away. Couldn’t even say anything or stick up for myself cause he’d have “seizures” and I’d feel terrible.
Thank you tho for your kind reply. It means a lot
They both were in the wrong, hopefully they will all better themselves. Abusive relationships isn’t something to take lightly or any of those topics really. Peace and love guys you are all enough and I appreciate everyone of you!
Appreciate you too! 💙
Why is June girlfriends still with him I’m confused
Forgiveness, likely.
One more reason I’m not on twitter
We can enjoy these games without mixing such. Let us all try!
I’ve heard of swarm very rarely watched him and also I’ve never heard of the other two
Atm it’s probably for the best
Wow, what an utter mess this is. I don't really know Junebug, although I've heard the name. All I can say is that I feel really bad for the man. His actions were indeed horrible and inexcusable, but if he is indeed suffering from depression and other mental illnesses, then I can only imagine the anguish he must have gone through. As someone that deals with some mental health issues myself, I can tell you that it can be exhausting at times dealing with all that. Adding some toxic person to the mix just makes it worse. Again, that's not an excuse for his actions at all, but I can only hope he gets the help he truly needs and can grow as a person from all this.
As for this Selena, while she didn't deserve that treatment from June at all, I can't really feel bad for her. She just comes across as horribly manipulative and an overall toxic person.
As for Swarm, well, I never liked the guy to begin with. Almost every video or clip I've seen with him, it's just him and his SWF going out of their way to bully killers, yelling about how they got shit on, and acting like they pulled off some high skill plays when in reality, they wouldn't be able to pull off half of that crap without comms and what not. I feel like he's an overall toxic person and his "apology" was most likely the generic "I'm sorry I got caught being a piece of crap" type of apology.
That being said, I hope these people can move on and get the help they need, especially Junebug.
It is indeed very hard to pull off "bullying killers" while flying solo. It's not them being bad just because they can't pull it off solo. And to add to this, I've seen them queue up without comms and still bully killers, most of the times just 2 of them queuing up together. I've never felt that Swarm means any of his words he's saying about the killers in his games. It's just in the moment in the match, and also a little bit of his image as a streamer. He's also a very good killer.
Can we stop the concept that using game mechanics is bullying? It's a game.
@@Barec76Yes it's a game and yes these are mechanics.
But certain mechanics can be abused or spammed to point it's intentional what the actual purpose is.
That's why bully squads became a term. Downplaying what people can use these mechanics for won't make it go away, it'll just make it worse.
@VenomGamingCenter I consider bullying to be a serious thing and using it to describe gameplay makes the word trivial and meaningless.
@@Barec76 quite the opposite. It only emphasises that it can happen everywhere. Even though the deliberate toxic use of game mechanics in order to make someone else's time more miserable than it needs to be.
It's crazy cause I actually had faced against Junebug and his SWF and had a good time last year, I found him by playing a match as Wesker and messing around with them as they tried getting head on stuns on me and goofing off, one of the funniest matches I ever played. I went to his chat after the game and had a good time talking bout how I was the Wesker and gave everyone a ggs, stayed in the stream to watch more of his antics and enjoyed it, needless to say it's sad to see that behind all that this kind of horrid stuff was going on.
I already don't follow Swarm. I found him to be fairly toxic when I used to play DBD regularly. Ran into him a few times like 3 years ago, I think before he became well-known, disliked basically every second of our time together. Then his community was also not much better, kinda throwing a few attacks at me in my comments like a year after I uploaded a couple videos of my encounters with him. To the point where one specific account tried twisting my words in a video of mine where I say, "I gotta kill this" when I was referring to a pallet and they spun it like I was being racist for referring to the Adam Francis character in the match as a "this." So yeah, I think he's a relatively not good person and some of his community seem to follow suit. Kinda glad people are seeing him as what I suspected 3 years ago now.
He's not a bad person😂. If you watch his streams they are relatively chill, and his community is nice for the most part. A lot can change in 3 years. I hate when people hate on somone because of one encounter. someone isn't a bad person if they make a couple mistakes.
@kazdog465 after watching this video, I'm gonna guess he hasn't exactly improved as a human being. But okay. Either way, I don't care. I just don't and won't follow the dude. If you want to support him, that's fine, but I personally don't want to.
Went back and watched your video, and they were not playing toxic at all. They were literally just playing the game as a team while you berated them with insults the entire match. If anything you were the toxic one. Really funny how you still have a hate boner after 3 years and feel the need to comment while simultaneously claiming you "don't care". Also you have no idea if the comments from the accounts a year after you posted are from Swarm's community. Honestly your own video just makes you look bad and a lot of those comments are just people pointing that out. It's crazy how people can just be so confidently wrong about a situation. Honestly you are like Selena and June in this with how you are leaving out information and bending the truth.
LOLOL I missed the end of your video. You went out of your way to message Swarm after the game to complain for your video. And even in chat messages, you were the toxic one. He told you GG, and you called him a "Class A Douchebag". Unreal.
@beebud6483 where exactly in my messages was I being toxic? And yeah, I called him that after he was starting to be one in his messages. But only within my video not directly to him, still rude of me but, you make it sound like I replied to his "GG" with that, which I didn't. I replied back with GG. But okay. I guess you're harvesting some true resentment over this, so... sorry you're hurt by a video I made that no one cares about except you?