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Even winning poker players make a lot of mistakes. In this video I show you the results of one of my 100 ZOOM students and critique some of his hands. If. Online poker is alive and well. The games are far from unbeatable with the right work ethic and the right tuition. - Hry
Great video and fortune reversal is definitely a concept I will be using over and over again. Thank you
how to be a winning 100NL player? Fold river reraise jams unless you got the NUTS.
The best comment and insight on all poker videos. You nailed it with that comment 👍
It’s a good strat against almost every pool because most people just underbluff in too many spots which automatically means that overfolding is plus ev
Lol. Was thinking same thing. Dude will be stuck in micros/low forever
My graph has been going up just like his, is and Alex Fitzgerald is why for me. Both of you are world class coaches. I think it takes time, and strong will power to learn to fold big to decent hands in the low to microstakes pool. U just learn to hand read, so go over every street and remember the river in these pools are very underbuffed but i bluff so there are people who can do it. Making big folds will give you some plus EV
Love this video. Good work!!!
First hand, losing 25nl player here biggest leak is 4 bet pots i dont fold enough i wouldnt have folded that in the past, now i am much more likely to make better folds, this is a great lesson for me. Thanks.
Another good video Thanks Pete
Pete great analysis as usual! I want to challenge you on the last hand as we talk about all of the J10 combinations villain has but we don’t consider all of the combos of A10 here too? Yes agree strong regs will turn some one pair hands into bluffs but this is board I would say is a neutral board for us and villain it’s a under bluff node and villain has nut advantages. Keep it up will be listening!
I am playing 200 and 400 on Ipoker. I also have the natural tendency to want to lock up profit however, if I start getting more passive (like your student does) I see that as failure. My aim when I play a session is to face my fears and not give in to what my brain is telling me (eg not bluff a river because I’m up 5 buy ins).
What I’m trying to say is your student needs to stop seeing money won or lost as success and failure. Instead change that to playing your best no matter how much your brain is telling you otherwise, because then you can come out of each session happy, no matter if you win or lose. Hopefully this made sense
Also your student needs a complete mindset change, if I see that J turn in the K6 hand im so happy because it means I get to 2x Jam the river and absolutely print in this spot.
Anyway GL to him/her solid player just needs to up the aggression.
Sometimes i feel like ur saying, great msg!
what is good fold to a river raise stat % in your opinion?
Good lesson. Im 18-months into learning Poker and for sure my #1 biggest problem is not being able to fold to aggression from passive/nitty players. My red line is good because I 3bet and 4bet aggressively + get so many folds post from people who usually fold to 1 small cbet....until they dont and I stack off versus a set or two pair...thus ruining my blue line in the process
Good to play with a few other students so you can spectate and find spots where you're being exploited or making bad calls vs clear value/aggression.
what do the red, green and blue lines represent? Pardon the ignorance, just learning the fundamentals in poker
What you say at 2:00 about big folds is the biggest thing that seperates my Agame and my Bgame, but it is still too rare. This is probably the main thing than can make me go from slightly winning (1-2BB/100) to really beating my games (50z on winamax)
Ohh 100%. Folding strong looking hands in big pots when you feel threatened by a bad session or a lack of confidence is very tough. When you’re feeling great, winning and playing well the fear and anxiety dissipates enough to unlock these folds. Very normal stuff.
Isnt the rake 10% on Winamax zoom?
@@lucasriven2115 Yes, with a 10BB cap (which is like16-17BB/100) but part of it is put in random bombed pots with 5 to 500BB added, so if you discout that it's a 5.5% rake if im not mistaken
@@thom8363 I see and how much rakeback do you get from those 17bb/100 of rake?
About that Ks6d 3-bet from the big blind…. I do that all the time at the lower levels of GG Poker. My reason is that I see ATS (attempt to steal) stats of 60 to 80 percent all the time. It’s profitable to 3x raise with any two cards when someone steals that much. Sometimes a crazy person jams but I get a lot of folds. Some of those players don’t even notice I do it all the time.
I kinda think the first hand isn’t quite under-bluffed as you think. I’m not sure it’s so crazy to think KQ or any 5 might block bet for value and jam as a bluff. I still like hero’s river raise for value but I think I’d lean call on the river.
in the first hand you say that maybe only 25% or 10nl & 25nl players would fold to that river jam.
but I'd guess that < 25% of those pools ever raises the river with the 2nd nut flush on a paired board.
they just call the 10bb and hope for the best.
What about pocket T in Villain’s range on that last spot ?
Nic Vid! Min 12 K6o.. After BB checks the Flop, SB should have huge Equityadvantage with all low Str8s and 2 Pairs. With this Equityadvantage Sb could go for a realy tiny bet with high frequency. What do u think of this type of strategy and do u think playerpool is aware of it?
Awesome vid
K6o was very funny nice comedy chops hahahaha
Shouldnt you consider, what to do if you value raise and he jams? If you just call you dont have to fold to a jam (first hand)
Why is it so important to bet polar and not linear bb vs sb?
If you have a preset strategy especially when playing rush poker of preset rules, it makes hands so much easier to play , just calling KQ suited is to protect your 3bet range and get it hu which any player should want. Unless you have some really specific not3s on villian, not 3betting KQ suited pf is a mistake. Very easy to see why his graph is what it is.
What do each of the different colored line graph represent?
As far as I remember (not played for a long while), green is the real winnings/losses, red is amounts won/lost without showdown and blue is amounts won/lost at showdown
Q8s with that flop i'd probably raise it up since we paired with a flush draw, i'm happy to get stacks in here, or if i get called on my raise on the flop i'm jamming all turns. Call me crazy but i love fold equity and when i do get called i often make the best hand there.... but i do enjoy your strategy also, not everyone is as agro :)
If river re-raises are almost always nutted at low to mid stake games, how do you see the Ev of following actions:
1. "calling the river block bets" and choosing to give up more value with our non-nut hands while also minimizing our non-showdown losses (like Q8s hand, when we raise and have to fold all hands except nuts when we raise river IP)
Vs
2. "raising IP vs OOP block bet" for max value with Non-nut-hands, putting ourselves in such spots when they are trapping with block bets?
1. If the premise of ‘river raises are almost always nutted’ is true, then I don’t see how this point has anything to do with EV whatsoever. We could argue though that because river raises are NOT almost always nutted but are underbluffed enough that we have to fold vs unknowns in this pool that raising hands like this becomes less good, however the higher our equity vs pool’s range the more important it is to raise so we have to weigh all of this up. There is nothing special about non-showdown winnings. They’re $ and the currency conversion is 1:1 with both blue line and green line.
2. If this is almost never happening then again, who cares. I’m not even sure this is any different of a point to 1. so my answer is the same. We can’t simultaneously say:
X is almost always the nuts
And
The EV of when X isn’t the nuts is very relevant to the EV of the overall game tree.
@@CarrotCornerPoker Thank you for both the answers!
Allow me to clarify:
Premise : River raises from player pools is proven to be NUTS or 2nd NUTS (they do NOT choose to do this with all other combos the solver does this with on the river)
Given above premise, my understanding is unclear on "Are we losing EV by playing the way we are supposed to without the above premise"
I agree, NSD winnings are same as SD winnings, but my point of interest of understanding whether changing strategy drastically is in the interest of making most Ev (given the premise)
About "If this is never happening again" - Well, I would say this can happen a LOT of times, especially with super wet flops (1 card straight or flopped flush draws or monotone boards)
[Please feel free to attack any misconceptions you see in my questions. I am a tough brick, I will make value out of all the fire :) [
I appreciate all the content you put out & especially loved the talk with Jess in "This is the End" video.
I am not sure if people understand, that particular video is SO REAL and OUT there, but here's me saying it again - It is Gold. Thank you!
Solver says KQ's is a pure jam on river given the line.
I think we'd see a lot of ATs in the third hand.
I quite like the fold in hand 1 as played, but I think a non all in value raise is not ideal there. Feels like that caps our range and leaves us vulnerable to a 3 bet against top level players, while also limiting the value we get from bluff catching hands whose calling range isn't elastic enough to justify the smaller raise size.
4bb100 is fine but definitely could be better even in 100z ps (not the best format to maximize winrate tbf)
Yep table selecting reg tables will definitely boost this in terms of bb/100 but also hourly too I think.
I lean slightly towards folding the Q8 hand vs unknown, but I don't find it as obvious as you suggest. AcAx and AcKx are playing exactly like this until the river, where they usually block. When a guy who is capable of 3b shoving river as a bluff (there are def some at 100z, it's a fairly competitive pool) sees this weakish looking hp raise it's quite easy to pull the trigger.
Also very easy to just ship nf+ for oop, probably you get looked up by every flush, some blocker bs catcher and the occasional non-believer. You have to think quite a bit to find this trap block and I don't think it's even any good at low stakes. People don't bluffraise too often, and this 3b ai is even scarier than just straight shoving it.
Against a reg on the more aggressive side I'd call and feel pretty good about it given the odds, I absolutely see some players show up with 100% bluffs here.
Shouldn’t be in this position anyway, just jam Q8s on the river and move on. 3x raise was trash
I took creatine supplements, taurine, l-tyrosine, and a bunch of lions mane, and I'm still a donk? No! I'm still a donk! Help! 12nl can't be beat, its rigged because I'm a donk.
I'm studying 4-5 hours of day, and I still can't beat 5nl 😂😂
Maybe not enough hands, hopefully
I'm curious what you are studying and if it is effective studying.
@RolandoAvila-ep7cu
I don't know if it's effective as I'm still learning the fundamentals
two hours of drills on GTO Wizard.
Analyse the hands where I felt I did something wrong.
Look into a spot on the flop or turn like OESD on T+T+x on the flop.
play and watch videos.
I don't spend much time preflop as I've memorised the ranges so now it's more about understanding how to exploit
Any advice would be appreciated.
$5100 in 120k hands. Isn’t that around 4.6bb / 100 ?
regarding first hand, why would you put any bluffs, if 70% of population call?)
Teaching players to fold the very top of their range bvb 100bb deep is lightning money on fire. He is folding waaaaaaaay to much. This is the graph of a mega nit. Its winning, yes and should be proud of beating any game. But even as a showdown player myself, if the win without showdown line isnt at least close to the break even, you are folding too much.
The issue is your student is a huge nit. At some point, overfolding vs aggression hinders you from progressing as you move up. I like to think of poker vs regs as essentially having 3 parts :
- Value betting game
- Bluffing game
- Bluff catching game
Your student, is weak in 2 and 3. Playing a very predictable way is fine at low stakes but he's going to hit a brick wall later.
Take the k6o hand, he seems risks adverse and scared to put the stack in on boards that his range is nutted on which is a very bad sign.
He could 2/3 turn and 2x river and generate in excess of 90%FE vs villains entire range here.
He does bluff in quite a lot of spots and can be in a zone where his bluffing game is strong, but you’re not wrong about the hitting a wall at some point if you’re too tight vs good regs. Like
I said in the video though - we’re working a lot on bluff game and bluff catching game vs stronger players at the moment.
@@CarrotCornerPoker sounds good, look forward to tuning in
@@agnorax Me, too!
folds
25nl is so difficult, its impossible to win
here is my take on the last hand. whenever i see a playertype like your student(i just have a "rivernit" tag) i overbluff it and it is printing. therefore, i know AT makes most sense and has the most combos, KQ is a call. solid regs exploit the heck out of those scary boards that change dynamics on the river. His story is "i have max 2p (ofc some 9ts, ats but not many combos)" which is obv a strong hand to riverbet with but still, if he never calls jams with even his nut 2p, its an obvious exploit overbluff for me.
With that last hand it seems likely that only ATs and T9s are playing that way for value. Figuring out his bluffs is weird. Is he opening JTo and KTo? If not then that just leaves 5 combos of JTs and KTs, giving us a value/bluff ratio of 1.6:1, and getting 1.7:1 we should call. However, that assumes he's always bluffing on those hands, and I find that improbable. Even if villain is opening JTo and KTo I'm not sure how often they're finding this river shove after the line where button is pretty polarized as they might treat KT as a bluff catcher rather than a bluff.
yeah, imo that looked like a bad fold. there are way more QJ, JT, Ax and Jx missed spade draw combos in villain's range than hands that actually beat hero.
Is 100000 hands really a big enough sample to say this student is profitable at 100 zoom?
yes
Not with 100% certainty, but it’s pretty likely this is a winning player based on the data. You could run it through the Primedope variance calculator to see the confidence intervals and win rate ranges applicable for this data. I’m also biased because I’ve done 9 session with this player and know his game to be pretty strong.
Isn't it fair to say the player is winning at 4.6bb / 100 over 100k hands lol . Better than me at 0.01 / 0.02 :(
I wouldn't call 4bb/100 crushing... Also it's so tiring, all these utube coaches, who wanne sell their coaching stuff, portrait this image, as if it's so ez to beat games blabla. Yeah poker is still beatable. The big question is, is it worth it? The graph is 125k hands, assuming 3-4 tabling zoom u get in roughly 800-1000 hands / hour. So if u wanne make 5k (and this is pre tax if u wanne be a law abiding citizen, caus in most countries u will need to pay tax), u would have to play 4-5h every day of the month. If I get a well played job, let's say engineer, I at least won't have to work 30 days a month, but only 20ish. Long story short, poker is beatable, if u wanne treat it as a hobby to make a bit extra, cool. But the idea, that u can just quit your job and grind z100 for a living is for 99% of the people not good... Also the fact that it has huuuuge variance. I mean in the graph he's literally breakeven for almost half of it. This plus all the mental stress etc that comes with it. Don't listen to people like this utube chan, they try to portrait as if the poker "dream" which was very achievable long time ago is still so ezzz to achieve. No it's not or comes with a lot of very bad counter arguments. Yeah u can try to sit in your basement 24/7h and grind 16h a day, bust your game will suffer, it's just not realistic for 99% of people except the cracy outliers like people from highstakes who grinded themselves up. Also they did that in a time when games like z100 were beatable with 10-20bb/200 which makes a huggfe difference.
But I thought you dont care about winrates, such as yours in the pool? You said even 100k is a small sample so there is no point sharing your winrates in these pools.
100k is a small to medium sample, yes and it doesn’t prove that someone has a true win rate as large as the observed one, but it does make it likely that the student is winning. Primedope variance calculator is great for getting a sense of how likely certain true win rates are based on observed win rates over various sample sizes. I have to also confess here that I’m trying to grow the channel and this sort of video is stuff that the algorithm likes. Graphs, the word ‘CRUSH’ - it just generates views. I always make sure the content on this channel is high quality and helpful but I’m not above dressing it up for the benefit of growing the channel as quickly as possible.
the k6 off 3 bet is super basic shi anyone thats beating any stake is 3 bwetting it idk why he made such a big deal out of it
Because there are a tonne of people watching this who don’t remember/realise that they should 3bet these hands but who do 3bet K6s and hands that are pure calls. Many of the 10k people who will watch this fall into this category though of course not all. Congrats on being better than the average viewer on 3betting K6o.
@@CarrotCornerPoker but thats the real fish players bc preflop gtow is free...
I disagree. A lot of viewers on here may 'know' that K6o should be 3-bet but don't or they don't know. As Jonathan Little says poker is complicated, which is why it's hard to be good.
@@marksimpson2321ye but this was meant for ppl that are already beating the stakes not some whale
Online poker is not "dead", its just rigged algorithms. I'm +10,000 in just over a year of play. Once you see the hands are predetermined, you can spot what cards are going to come. Just never slow play or the program will punish you. Its crazy how people pretend the cards are random 😂
Rubbish.
are people 3 betting k6o in like 10NL zoom/blitz/snap/fast?
Im Not convinced you didnt actually type that shit to a mouth breather student