Growing Cannas from Seed! My preferred way!
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2022
- If you have been thinking about growing Cannas from seeds, I hope that this video is helpful in some way and it gives you the confidence to try it, If this works for me then for sure it will be a success for you in your garden!
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Roxanna, I found a short cut for the filing part! I used your husband’s trick with the needle, nose pliers, but instead of a file I used my Amopé Pedi Perfect battery powered callus smoother! Done in seconds! 👌🏻🌱💚
I got a lot of comments from people recommending a nail trimmer for dogs, I think I am going to get me one soon!
@@SoilandMargaritasa dremel with a grinding bit takes seconds and you can control the speed of it
Love that idea!
I just use piece of rough sand paper. Use the pliers to hold it and run it across a couple times and done. Put them between some pretty dampen paper towels, then a baggy and place underneath the sink cabinet and with in a get days they all have tails. Plant them up. Yes it’s so easy. I also do day Lilly’s that way to.
I usually just knick them with the wire cutter part of the needle nose pliers. I set them out in January in a gallon milk jug in seed starting mix, wet it pretty good & by the spring they are about 3 in tall! Ready to plant & no hardening off.
So I use a 4" battery operated grinder with a sanding disk and pliers to hold the seed. all you have to do is touch the seed against the grinding wheel and voila it breaks the outer hard shell. I just started about 100 seeds and it took me ten minutes to get them ready. Good luck.
I used a flat sheet of sand paper (only had 220 grit on hand), and was able to get through a bunch pretty easily.
I tested this method on six seeds I harvested in 2020 and all of them have germinated. I'm preparing to plant them this weekend. Great technique!
Roxanna, we found a MUCH quicker way to file them down. We use a needle nose pliers to hold the seed and then used a dremel tool with a sandpaper end on it to file them down. I could do each seed in about 30 seconds!
Ohhh great idea!
Exactly the method I used! My father-in-law gave me SO many canna seeds. I used a small Dremel tool with the 3/16" Silicon Carbide Grinding Stone. I held the pod on a cloth with needle-nosed pliers and then for 1-2 seconds with the grinding stone. I loved your video, and I followed all your other directions last year and I think a 100% germination rate!
I used my hubby's electric sanding small tool. A second on each seed to get to the white. Held the seed with the pliers like your hubby show you.
Great how to video...thank you!😃
Good luck with Cannas!
Thank you for this video. I had saved about 200 Cana seeds that I grabbed from a plant about 2 years ago. Never planted due to intimidation. I have to tell you…after watching this, I headed to my she-shed, grabbed a piece of 60 grit sandpaper and a pair of pliers with a bolt gripper. Grabbed the seed with the bolt gripper on my pliers and about 6 strokes across the sandpaper is all it took. There’s an easier way my dear! 🙌🏻 Thank you for the fabulous video!!!
I recently purchased a dog-nail trimmer ($20 box on Amazon) and that thing took like 2 seconds to scratch those hardy seeds, I am loving it! 200 seeds is A LOT of cannas!
Roxanna, Cannas can cross-pollinate if you grow more than one variety in your garden, the only way to keep the color that you want is to dig and store the rhizomes over winter. With that being said, it might be a fun experiment to see how the different varieties look in the second, third, and fourth years of saved seeds! I have 3 different ones this year (all grown from rhizomes), Toucan Coral is a coral flowering one with green leaves, Tropicana Gold has beautiful green & yellow striped leaves with blooms that are orange with yellow splashes, and Wyoming has bronze leaves with gorgeous orange blooms. If they have been cross-pollinated (and I'm pretty sure they were), each seed should produce blooms and/or leaves with different variations of these three different plants! I will save the rhizomes to ensure that I have the original varieties. However, you've convinced me to save and grow the seeds from all three of my varieties of cannas just to see what crosses I get. Have a wonderful week! ~Margie🤗💐🐝🦋
Yes, I wish I would had kept the other 2 colors, but can you imagine if you get some bicolor ones... so cool!
I dug up overwintered canna rhizomes and they dried up and also got mildew. How do I store them?
@@Earleyyourmean After the tops freeze and turn brown (but the ground hasn't
frozen) I dig the rhizomes and clean the soil off thoroughly (you can also wash the soil off if you have sticky clay soil) then let them air dry completely for a week or so before placing the rhizomes into cardboard boxes. I dry them in my garage on wire racks where there is good airflow, so they air dry completely. I store them in cardboard boxes in my cool (50° F.) dry basement over the winter. I hope this helps. I'm in zone 5a, so there is no way they will survive our bitter-cold winters if left in the ground.
@@greenthumbelina7331Exactly! Dad and I would dig and let them dry on the ground. We had sandy soil and didn’t wash them. We had large cardboard tubes with lids from my dads work and stored in basement. It was an unheated basement but we had a huge wood/coal furnace so the basement was dry, but on cooler side mostly.
I think this is the fascinating thing, wondering what exotic bloom your seed may produce (same with dahlias). How did you get on with your 3 varieties?
I live in TN. I bought a house that has a huge almost 5ft tall patch of red flowering ones that's probably about 15ft+ in diameter. We just cut them back once dead and even got snow and -11 temps this past January and they survived. They were even popping up in our ditch and pasture. We dug those up and planted in another bed.🙌💓
You are about 1-2 zones warmer than me, so it makes sense they come back for you... that is amazing!
Thank you so much for the informative process. Love it!
I am definitely trying this next year. I always dig up my rhizomes each year. Thanks for sharing
Roxanna, this is such a timely video. I've been collecting canna seeds, and I had no idea you had to score, and start them in water. Thank you so much for the great tutorial, I'll be starting them next spring. I do find that once the cannas get established in their pots, the root system grows so fast that they do much better in larger pots. Mine did much better with more room to grow, so I'll be planting them accordingly next summer. They are truly beautiful additions to any garden. Looking forward to your next video😄
That’s so true! They grow massive roots, they get move to solo cups but I think next year they will go into a 5” container because they like to grow
I had no idea of the process. Thank you.
This video is so exciting!! I collected seeds from my red Canna that I purchased this year and I'm excited to give this a try next year.
Sooo exciting!
step 1 done! seeds germinated and planting them today!
Woo hoo!
I've been allowing them to spread in CA and AZ for over 20 years. I dead head, never collect seeds. They just grow. I planted 3, foot tall plants in 2020 and now I have 2 large 4ft clumps of maybe 40 plants to thin out and give away. I've planted in soil, sand and grew them in my pond. Always successful & abundant.
That's awesome! Here in Indiana they just get mushy if I leave them outside for the winter.
@@SoilandMargaritas that makes sense! Greenhouse time!!
Easier if it doesn't freeze over the winter.
Girl what a dedication
Love your video!! I found taking a pair of needle nose pliers to hold the seed and rub the seed on sand paper work the fastest and easiest
Your flowers are beautiful!!
Thank you so much!
I have been saving seeds from my cannas this year thanks to you
That’s awesome Jenny! They are quite easy plants to grow from seed!
Me too:) Good luck growing your cannas!
Beautiful! I decided I’m going to try growing the peach or coral colored ones. I saw them everywhere on YT, but no one was selling them in my town. I don’t know how I missed this video!😄
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
I was at Home Depot looking at Canna plants and decided not to buy it and then I see your video. I'm going back to buy a few and then like you, save the seeds. Awesome video, learned a lot!!
I may or may not be walking around the downtown area of my town checking those peach cannas to see if they have any seeds yet 😆😩😆
@@SoilandMargaritasl took some from the yellow ones at the car wash. LOL
I hold the seed with a pair of pliers with end exposed. I lay a full sheet of sandpaper on desk in front of me then make about 3 passes the length of the sandpaper with the exposed seed being held with pliers. Usually a about "30" inches of scraping gets it. Good luck.
I found just knicking the seeds with my dog nail clippers was super easy and fast.
I have to try that!
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I used a flat tool file and it only took about 10 swipes before I saw the white under the shell. Thank you for the tip!
I learned from a guy in the UK to put them in a jar and pour boiling water in and let them set for about 25 seconds (no more than thot) and it will split the seed shell so you don’t have to scarify the seed now. Then you remove them from that water and add them to just warm water to soak thrm.
I have heard about this technique before, I gotta say, I am a bit worry to try it lol
As a kid my dad and I would plant our giant red cannas we stored in the basement every year. I was always intrigued with the seed pods as they were huge. I’m wondering if they would sprout in a moist paper towel in a bag on a heat mat. I used that method for hibiscus seeds as when I was trying to scarify them one popped up and flew over to the drain🙄. They sprouted in a couple days without scarifying.
It’s amazing how big the plants got from seed! I thought they would be small.
I used a pair of pliers and a metal Dremel bit....super fast!!!!
I also placed them in a damp paper towel in a ziplock baggy, store in my closet for 5 days
I use a silicone jar lid opener - small, cone shaped about 2 inches (they come in about 4 inch size at the dollar stores.. They hold on great and you wont file your fingers. Just trim with scissors to fit your grip.
I should try growing Cannas from seeds! you have a great success!
They are so easy!
Wow, thank you so much, I just collected a bunch today, I’m super excited to see how they turn out✌️💚💫
A faster and easier method: pour boiling water on the seeds wait 10 scond and chage the water for cold. And keep the seeds in this water for a few days in a warm place. 😊
Thanks for sharing Edit!
My coastal flame canna gave me seeds this year so im going to try to grow them next spring up here in northern Canada ❤️🧡💛
Good luck!
I used a electric rotory sander thank you I tried one your way then saw it took so long held the seeds in my hand perfect time saver
I think I might have to get me one!
@@SoilandMargaritas took less than 10 seconds per seed, thank you for your input wife doing first year by seed and watched your video. Took them out of dirt after watching and yep had to sand them down
Thanks for sharing the seed starting for cannas. Just dropped them on the ground and thought they would self seed.
I wish! Maybe in hotter zones? Unfortunately it in mine 😒
I had a volunteer this year. I’m guessing that the freeze/thaw cycle broke down the seed coat.
@@emkn1479 that’s great! I wish a lot of those would volunteer for me
@@SoilandMargaritas I’m in zone 6 so it took awhile for the plant to grow, but it’s big now! Maybe experiment with leaving a few seeds around the garden this fall 😊
Thanks for sharing. When do you start your preparation for the Cannas? Thanks to you and your step-by-step guide, I have been able to grow some new flowers this summer. 💖💐🌻🌸
About 4-6 weeks before I am ready to take them outside, they love warm temperatures so I have to wait.
I didn't read down through the comments. So sorry if it has been suggested. I think I may try a Dremel tool. Thank you for this great video. Have a great day.
I use my hubby's metal filer.. fast easy to the point.
This year was my first year to grow Vann a by seed. I put them in boiling water and they popped open. Worked great for me.
I might try that next year, the thing is that I don’t have lots of see to experiment on so I try to stay true to what I know will work
Hello question? Please how long did you leave the pods in boiling water before they cracked?
I heard if you leave them in boiling water for more the a few seconds the pods die.
@@gianna7256 just 24 hours
I used a electric Nail Drill.Worked Great.
I use an electric nail file😊 Great video👍👍👍
Awesome!
I use a nail clipper to nick the seed, then wrap in moist paper towel, seal in a baggy and place on top of fridge.
Great idea!
Where I live, Cannas are everywhere and youndont have dig up the tubers. Ive never seen a salmon colored one though. I was hoping you'd show it also. I cant recollect white either. Haha So pretty I bet.
The salmons and whites went to my mom’s, they were so pretty!
I do my own nails. I used the disposable sanding bands with my electric nail file and it took me 10 seconds per seed!! You can get an electric file for under $20. Just make sure not to burn the seed when filing
I got one of those electric file for dog nails, it works great!
Hi, try using a vice grip an a Dremel tool!
Do you grow certain flowers during the winter? Are these being started now? Ty. Love your channel, I am new...
I don’t, I started these in early spring.
Great video! I’ve been wondering if I should collect seeds from my cannas. I have three varieties growing in my garden. I didn’t know what to do with them but now I know thanks to you!
Once they germinate do they need to be put under grow lights or on or near a window sill?
I have a setup indoors with led lights and that’s where I keep everything I grow from seed.
I am in Indiana also. It is best to save your own seeds every year. Try a bigger file.
I use a 4 sided cheese grater and locking pliers. 3-4 swipes for each seed, that’s all. BIG TIME SAVER!!
Great idea!!
Fantastic tutorial
Canna seed was used in the native's rattles. I can just imagine someone trying to sand a canna seed and have it slip out of their fingers and hit a wooden floor and scuttle everywhere and under furniture (ask me how I know 🙂 ). I just prepared passiflora flower seeds the same way but I use sand paper with those and just catch them under my nail and drag a line down the sand paper for an inch or so. You can get sand paper in more and more aggressive grits so you can find something that works with each seed type. I just finished 16 red canna seeds using my method. It takes me about 4 seconds per seed using 120 grit sandpaper, you will need to cut your nails short so its easy to grip half the seed between thumbnail and a finger nail and hold it in the flesh part of the finger. About 15-20 back and forth one inch long strokes and I had white. Same motion like trying to color in with a piece of chalk. Just move across the sand paper to keep it fresh and on fast cutting new sand areas.
This year I used one of those dog nail trimers and it took seconds to do it.
@@SoilandMargaritas you may already know canna makes a good survival food. It was used by natives like a potato, a starchy food source. Dried and ground into flour canna rhizome makes Arrowroot powder. They don’t have them here but in commonwealth countries they make a cookie from arrowroot flour.
Lol! My hibiscus seed popped up and flew down the drain😂. That’s when I threw the remaining 4 into a damp bag and on a heat mat and they sprouted in 2 days.
Do the plant need sun or shade?
Lots of watering or just normal?
Thank you for this. I got a bunch of seeds from some canna lilies at work and have wanted to try this. I see that you have your lilies in shade. Is that the best place or do they like more sun?
I put them in full sun, they are tropical and they will do OK in semi shade
I use a dremel tool to do mine, takes about 30 seconds per seed
Hi from a former Hoosier. Now I live in zone 9B. I appreciate you tell your zone in the beginning because like in you Coleus video, we dont plant ours in May outdoors...way too hot. We plant in the Fall and February. My question is, where did you get the plastic seed packet holders?
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I used a belt sander and pliers to file down my blue lotus seeds its much faster! Every seed sprouted 😎
I love this idea. So much so that I just put some canna seeds in my Amazon cart. On what date did you actually start soaking your seeds?
I start mine 4-6 weeks before my last frost date.
Just hold them with vice grips. Not too tight or they pop. Put a large file on a table with a towel underneath so you don't ruin your table. File until it feels a little sticky and you start to see a white stripe on the file. Careful when you change the water or the sprout will break off.
I just watched this again - a great video. I saved seed and want to tell you about my experience planting them. I found it impossible to scarify them no matter what I did!! My husband used a dremmel and it was much easier. I planted six scarified and six that had been soaked only. 6/6 of the scarified germinated in a few days, 2:6 of the others germinated eventually, slowly. So happy to have learned this method - I will never wrestle with and save those tubers again.
I would say the same about dahlias. I saved some seed from a mystic sparkler (eager to see what new hybrids are produced!) and bought seeds for a couple of Figaro. 100% germination.
Two questions for you Roxanna.
1. Do cannas grown from seed come back true to the parent?
2. Do you leave those nasty tubers and roots n the soil to rot or do you dig them out?
Thanks so much!!
Hello!
1- They will have a great chance to be true to the color if you only have one variety of cannas growing around you, I only had yellow cannas so mine were always yellow, but if you start introducing different colors and varieties you will more than likely have a variation.
2- I dig them out, they will get mushy :(
@@SoilandMargaritas thanks so much!
@@SoilandMargaritas plants are fascinating. The tubers I saved have sort of coral/pink blooms and pure green leaves - I don’t have any others and I don’t think my neighbours have any. The seedlings have leaves ranging from the same green to a deep burgundy with some in between. I potted a new tuber this year, the leaves are coming out green with some burgundy and the flowers will be orange. Love this about gardening. I saved some dahlia seeds (mystic sparkler); can hardly wait to see what I get. Of the six seedlings, the foliage is quite variable. Some serrated, some smooth edges ranging in colour from mahogany to mostly green. The mother had serrated, deep mahogany foliage.
I've never tried these from seeds, nor have I grown them but they are beautiful flowers. Couldn't you just soak them for awhile or even a long time in warm water to
soften the outer coating and then nick them?
I did that before and had very little germination, the coating on the seeds are really hard
Boil water and pure it in those seed containers. And a week later you can try your method on the seeds that did not germinate.
I'm in zone 6a. I have the Canna seeds. What time of the month do I start seeds indoors for planting in Spring ?
Your zone does not matter, you have to check your last frost date and count 4-6 weeks before that to get them going.
needle nose pliers to hold the seed and my hubby's belt sander, takes 5 secs :)
Thank you! I actually grabbed one of those mail trimmers for dogs (battery operated) and it literally takes 2 seconds
Thank you for your video. I collected Canna seed from work this August . should i store them till next spring? or start them dig them up this late fall?
Where are you located? Gardening zone? For me cannas are annuals, so I start them a few weeks before I am ready to plant outside in the Spring.
lOL i SHOULD HAVE SAID I LIVE IN ZONE 6b
@@markb9580 keep them in a paper bag in a cool dark place until March/April, when you can take your tomatoes outside you can also plant the canna plants then, so get them started about 4-6 weeks before that
THANK YOU
I used a dremel , it took 10 seconds each for the white to show 😊
I got myself a nail filer for dogs (not sure what a dremel is) but it worked great as well!
Just my 2 cents, you might want to try a high speed finger nail drill. and only issue with your husband way is he should have used a shop belt sander and used the pliers to hold the seeds against it.
I was wondering what time of the year did you start this process?
Early in the Spring, I showed 60 day old seedlings being transplanted into a container, so about 2 months before I’m ready to put them outside, these are tropicals so they will not like cold weather, if you can plant tomatoes outside that’s your guide for yourself… just go back 2 months before that and you are good.
Pliers and dremmel type cutter disc. QUICK.
I have watched another video The guy use sandpaper (I have done it and it is very easy) and then he put boiling water on them-he has done some with cold water, but the boiling water worked best
do you cover them ever and when do you give them light
They go under my LED lights from day one
I used rotary tool 🤞🏼
I used a dog nail trimmer and it took seconds! Game changer!
do the seeds soften in water? to make scarifying easier.
No, you scarify them first to let water inside the hard seed shell
I wonder if this would work with specific varieties. I know hybrid seeds won’t be true to their parents. I’ll have to let a couple of my Wyoming plants go to seed and give it a try. But I’ll still be saving those tubers 😉 the plants get so big so quick that way.
I might try that this year, but with dahlia tubers and elephant ears I’m already annoyed at everything I have to dig!
@@SoilandMargaritas Just save a couple as an experiment 🤷♀️
I just drag my seeds about three times down the length of a hacksaw blade.
Instead of filing the seed, I've seen people drop the seeds in just boiled water until the seed "pops" and is left with a crack. You remove the seed and save yourself on the filing process.
Took me a few minutes with some pliers and sanding paper. Lay the paper flat, grip the seed with pliers and scratch on paper. What month do you start?
I am about to start mine for this year this month, you can start them about 6-8 weeks before your last frost date, I am pretty sure I will start these about the same time I start my tomatoes.
Maybe you could use a dremel to sand the seeds
I saw a short video in which she just dropped the seeds in hot water which cracked the seed open and made it eready for planting
I’m not sure who you are referring to, but personally, I haven’t use the hot water technique because I’m afraid to do so. Good luck!
Will these become tubers over time ?
Yes, the first year they produce ryzhomes.
I Will try with m’y e-fike
Boiling water for 30 seconds 👍🏼 seed cracks, job done.
I will try this for sure!
Found it unreliable...tried for 2 yrs and got better results with sanding paper 60/80 grit and pliers + 48 hrs water. Growing almost 10 species now, rhis year >100 plants for free....
I use sand paper
How do rhizomes grow? Will a fresh seed grow into a rhizome?
In my experience yes, the cannas I grow from seed produce rhyzomes that year.
What time of the year do you plant it
Outside? When the risk of frost passes, that's going to be different for everyone.
@@SoilandMargaritas thanks
How did the outside pride seeds/plants turn out?
They had very poor germination for me, I started the rest of those seeds again and I gave them to my mom… the white ones were gorgeous!
Ideally they need 25c...over 30c is too much, under 20 becomes really slow. I typically start indoors ar 20c around valentines day...
Hi, you need a electric nail file. You can find it on amazon
I might get one for next year!
can cattle eat these plants as fodder ?
I have no clue!
When you took the drink break during filing 🤣😩
Coffee for the win! lol
How do you harvest the seeds?
I have a video of that from last year, let me see if I can find it
czcams.com/video/OS1S1jXDK7s/video.html
For scarification i use nail clipper.
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@@SoilandMargaritasIt is enough to cut the seed coat a little with the end of the clipper and moisture will penetrate inside. I tried it on seeds of albicia, caselpinia, gledicia and other seed with a hard coat.
show me how to germinate sugar apple seeds ... i tried and tried and failed and failed... i am in houston texas
I have never done this so I am no help there!
Storing the tubers is much easier than all this.
I used an electric manicure file. You should get one.
Don't need to file just soak in water for 5 days or so and keep warm. Nature will do the rest after u plant
I use regular nail clippers and a pair of pliers. Take the lever and pin out of the clippers which will allow the clipping part to open wider. Then hold the seed with a pair of pliers and clip the shell off. Only takes seconds once you get it down, and nail clippers are cheap. No power tools or tedious sanding required.
I watched another lady's video and she put the seed in boiling hot water 💧 and the seed cracked opened in seconds. You may try this technique to see if it works to speed up the process.
Thanks for sharing!
Another CZcamsr puts the seeds in boiling water (not while water is on the stove) & waits to hear the seed crack. Then there's a slit in the seed.i haven't tried it but looks easy.
Unreliable . Sanding is better
I used a huge file for wood. It was curved. Took 30 passes. Somebody had a square file and used that holding the seed with pliers.
Put them in boiling hot water until you hear them pop.
I gotta try that this year!
I have always found that the seeds are never true to the original parent. They always revert back to the red blooming canna
The yellow ones I have been saving came from seeds from a yellow canna, those have been true for me.