How to Throw a 12-6 Curveball (3 Musts)

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    In this video, we look at 3 important things you must do to throw a good, traditional 12-6 curveball. The curveball can be a nasty pitch when thrown properly, but it's important to learn to throw it the right way. You'll also learn some of the biggest mistakes young pitchers make, and why you want to avoid doing these things when throwing the curveball.
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Komentáře • 123

  • @knucleballfreedom
    @knucleballfreedom Před 9 lety +8

    Coach is spot on in my opinion. I learned thesame grip from a Dodger. Been throwing a 12-6 CB for 15 years as of yesterday for a complete game. It takes practice and consistency. Great video! I would add step 4 a consistent follow through "finish"

    • @olik5652
      @olik5652 Před 2 lety

      Was the dodger kershaw?

  • @dustinmichel7608
    @dustinmichel7608 Před 3 lety +1

    I play 20 the show i use 4 seam, slider, 12-6, and a cutter. This is great

  • @synergysportstraining2100
    @synergysportstraining2100 Před 10 lety +2

    Nice job coach. I would add one recommendation that all my pitchers have found very helpful: set your hand and wrist position in the glove before the pitch. A cue I give young pitchers is when we throw a FB our index and middle finger are on top and thumb on the bottom of the ball when our hands break but with the CB our index and middle finger are on the side. A good drill to master and maintain the grip uses the "flip" or "wrist" drill and a training aid called the Spinner, or a hockey puck, or a baseball painted on one side. I allow my pitchers to use the forearm, so we call it the hinge drill and use all of our grips when performing it. The pitcher places his glove under his throwing elbow at shoulder level and using only the forearm delivers the ball. You can perform a lot of reps with this drill because it produces little to no stress or fatigue on the shoulder and elbow. The great thing about the Spinner ($20) or a hockey puck ($1) is it provides visual feed back and challenges the player. If you do it properly the Spinner when released will stay almost vertical with very little tilt, with a tight (not wobbly) 12-6 spin. Works for the FB as well with opposite spin. Players can do this together or about 10' off a wall and if done correctly, the disk will come directly back every time.

  • @iamsl0th107
    @iamsl0th107 Před 10 lety +7

    this helped me so much, I have my first playoff game soon and my coach needs me to have a effective off speed pitch, I only throw a weak curve and my change up isn't very good

    • @daedae12ize
      @daedae12ize Před 10 lety +1

      a curve ball isnt an off speed pitch #Just saying

    • @tristinhobeck7238
      @tristinhobeck7238 Před 10 lety +8

      ZebraPrint Yes it is.

    • @wkstearns91
      @wkstearns91 Před 10 lety +3

      ZebraPrint always a fucking genius isnt there? Hey dumbass, it is indeed an offspeed pitch.

    • @moegerms
      @moegerms Před 9 lety

      ZebraPrint haha what?

    • @kravis_6131
      @kravis_6131 Před 7 lety

      a off speed pitch is a changeup a breaking ball is a slider or curve

  • @thevagabond9245
    @thevagabond9245 Před 5 lety +25

    They always explain how to do it but never show

    • @invincibleraid
      @invincibleraid Před 4 lety +1

      It is "How to throw a 12-6 Curveball, not "12-6 Curveballs"

    • @mauricioinit6131
      @mauricioinit6131 Před 3 lety

      i am nine i can not throw this pitch because i saw a video and you have to be 12 or older

    • @invincibleraid
      @invincibleraid Před 3 lety

      @@mauricioinit6131 Wow if a Karen was here, they'd report you but I won't because I know you'd subscribe to me :)

    • @NAT-turners-Revenge
      @NAT-turners-Revenge Před 2 lety

      @@mauricioinit6131 yea.... not a good pitch to throw young bcuz ur still growing ☺

  • @fr6313
    @fr6313 Před 6 lety

    THere's a drill I used to do in college where without even throwing the ball I'd work on generating the curveball spin. If the spin was end over end I knew I had the snap and finger movement correct . If the spin was not full end over end I knew I didn't get on top of the ball enough,. You are pulling with your index and middle fingers and pushing with your thumb . THis drill made all the difference in the world and helped me gain consistency throwing the best curve

  • @timotifain4858
    @timotifain4858 Před 10 lety +4

    Thank you for this tutorial it helped me)

  • @1976trav
    @1976trav Před 7 lety +2

    I always just imagined a big barrel above my head and I just tried to throw over top of it.Bowling is also good to build strength for the wrist.

  • @MrHoover77
    @MrHoover77 Před 8 lety

    This is the best video I have come across on how to throw a curveball. Props man!

  • @dominickgauthier751
    @dominickgauthier751 Před 6 lety

    Awesome pitch to throw!!! Thanks for the vid, it's just fun to see the hitters when they strike out

  • @sprattvspamaj1v181
    @sprattvspamaj1v181 Před 8 lety +11

    this is one of the hardest pitches to throw and hit in baseball

    • @jjwillia
      @jjwillia Před 8 lety +1

      Not really. This is on of the first grips you learn outside fastballs or changeups. It gets crazy once you get to knuckle balls and splitters.

    • @sprattvspamaj1v181
      @sprattvspamaj1v181 Před 8 lety +4

      The ball just drops off the table unhittable if you master it

    • @jiraf4204
      @jiraf4204 Před 8 lety

      I would say the knuckle is harder. Only for when increasing speed and the release on where you put the ball. Imo

  • @ronondechek14
    @ronondechek14 Před 10 lety

    Another way to get more bite is to pull your forearm straight down while gripping onto the ball with your middle finger. DON'T BREAK YOUR WRIST, but pull the ball down like pulling a lampshade. This is how Nolan Ryan threw his 12-6. You'll get a lot of hitters swinging up out of their shoes when it's in the dirt. Good K pitch to get them to chase. Good luck!

  • @paco43210
    @paco43210 Před 11 lety

    Should definitely put in example pitches, I haven't played baseball in over ten years. But this was informative

  • @ja6205
    @ja6205 Před 10 lety +12

    Think of a clock. Becauae your fingers and wrist should snap straight down from 12 o clock to 6 o clock.

    • @haydenplatzke2730
      @haydenplatzke2730 Před 7 lety +5

      John Asaro didn't he just say you shouldn't snap your wrist

    • @invincibleraid
      @invincibleraid Před 4 lety +1

      @@haydenplatzke2730 This video is just wrong.

  • @luckclan6605
    @luckclan6605 Před 11 lety +6

    Thanks i now am a better pitcher i am in middle school and threw my first perfect game in 14 yr old world series

  • @harleybranscomb9634
    @harleybranscomb9634 Před 9 lety

    Screw the haters, this pitch works great for me! Great video!

  • @Kelv21
    @Kelv21 Před 9 lety +18

    I'm only able to throw curveballs like 4 times out of 10. My problem is releasing the ball it mostly comes out a fly ball

    • @dataintfalco6472
      @dataintfalco6472 Před 8 lety +1

      +Nguyen Phong Gia Huy Everytime I try to throw a curve it either drops microscopically or has no speed and falls on the plate xD

    • @Kelv21
      @Kelv21 Před 8 lety +1

      Dineth Altmann I figure it out. The video doesnt tell you the most important part. Its really easy to throw curveballs, Just do the curveball grip but instead of pointing your hand forward, point it towards your face(palm MUST be facing right if youre a righty, and left if youre a lefty), as if you were doing a handshake. Theres no flicking you wrist to the left or right, just down. When you throw it should be a curveball, not necesarilly straight since you need to practice for more control.

    • @miketheinvisible
      @miketheinvisible Před 7 lety

      i know im late to this, but heres my take i personally grip my slider and curve the same. its not a 12-6 though its more like a 2-10 and my slider has maybe has a .5 to a 2 inch break in it. it just depends on how hard i throw it. i dont have a cannon so its not fantastic but it works. i grip them both like im throwing a 2 seam and i just throw them from different points. like my curve is more overhand and the slider is more 3/4. i still get the red dot on both it just moves different. so i can fool batters and maybe punch them out most of the time i just throw it as a first pitch cause in my experience the all expect a 4 seam from me cause its only about 78-80 at the most.

    • @miketheinvisible
      @miketheinvisible Před 7 lety

      nguyen this is to you, its in regards to your knucklecurve. heres a funny for you i throw a knuckle as a third pitch but i cant throw a knucklecurve or rather i cant control it. i suffer from rick ankielitis when it comes to that. thought you might get a kick out of that.

    • @invincibleraid
      @invincibleraid Před 4 lety +1

      @@miketheinvisible You mean 2-8?

  • @konniemac316
    @konniemac316 Před 9 lety

    Good video. Especially when you have good form off the rubber. You don't even really need to move your arm much. Just let your legs drive you and have the proper hip rotation. Your arm will follow naturally. There should be more torque in your shoulder than your elbow. Just keep practicing and you will definitely get the feel of it.

  • @CAPTINPANCAKES1
    @CAPTINPANCAKES1 Před 10 lety +11

    ha ha ha ha a bee lands on his hat

  • @tkudrnacantonin8679
    @tkudrnacantonin8679 Před 4 lety

    Such a nice couple and so personable! He sounds like he's from Scotland. The first two properties were beautiful but the mystery house wasn't my "cuppa" . . . too much work for me. But, not for her! I hope they found their happy place. Thank you for sharing with the USA ❣

    • @amongsttheruins
      @amongsttheruins Před 3 lety

      I always wonder how people manage to comment on the wrong videos...

  • @rmac7612
    @rmac7612 Před 11 lety

    great demo,

  • @infinity9703
    @infinity9703 Před 8 lety

    Thankyou so much for this video my curveball is insane now

  • @alecvan7143
    @alecvan7143 Před 3 lety

    great video!

  • @juicecounty714
    @juicecounty714 Před 3 lety

    Thank u.u da man.i make my son watch this everyday...he likes to think his team mates are and listen to them but not me.haha

  • @ironjungkwonful
    @ironjungkwonful Před 9 lety

    Good stuff. Well done

  • @ryantinnel4264
    @ryantinnel4264 Před 11 lety

    Good pitch thank you

  • @TOUNICMA
    @TOUNICMA Před 11 lety

    I am so subscribing this.

  • @wogdoggy
    @wogdoggy Před 10 lety

    good stuff coach

  • @BradColemanisHere
    @BradColemanisHere Před 7 lety

    I have a 12-year-olds team that I coach and they want to throw curve balls and some are quite good at it. I am teaching them to not "doorknob" or twist in any way. Is this an OK age to throw this pitch? I've read quite a bit about how curve balls are not the cause of all of the arm problems, but I do think throwing it wrong causes problems faster.

  • @vintagejesus660
    @vintagejesus660 Před 3 lety

    I was a LHP, and no one ever really taught me how to throw a proper, effective curve. I would compare learning to throw a curve to learning to kickflip on a skateboard... it seems impossible until on day it just clicks. Timing.. positioning, just the feel. So if you want to throw a nasty curve.. you need to practice it. Not just on the mound. Like.. when you are laying in bed before you go to sleep, spin that ball off your middle finger up in the air, and catch it. Do 100 a night. Get that mechanics to be muscle memory, and then you know it and really can't unlearn it.. or go back to when you didn't know it

  • @evanmessi985
    @evanmessi985 Před 9 lety

    hey good video but everytime i throw it. it does the spin but on the angle can you comment and tell me what im doing wrong

  • @mr.sophistication9841
    @mr.sophistication9841 Před 10 lety

    John gravy search how to throw a curveball and click the first video it said why your elbow hurts

  • @aidanwhite3365
    @aidanwhite3365 Před 10 lety

    yah i agree, that is a slider grip

    • @TheJimmbabwe
      @TheJimmbabwe Před 10 lety +1

      pretty much the same grip just different mecahnics

  • @nothumbs7181
    @nothumbs7181 Před 10 lety +1

    Thank you so much you helped me get a scholarship to USC because of your techniques!!!!! Not...

  • @fffastway100
    @fffastway100 Před 8 lety

    another way to throw a great curveball is turn your palm so that it is facing the batter as your arm passes your head. right before your arm passes your head as you're throwing it, the top of your hand should be facing the batter. your palm is facing second base. and you release it like a yo yo. as you release it the top of your hand is facing the ground and the palm facing the sky. it should have a huuuge break!! try it! there is no problem if your palm is facing the sky. every person is different. I threw it this way and got a far bigger break than the way it's thrown in the video. just try it

  • @ja6205
    @ja6205 Před 10 lety +1

    **because

  • @markralston4264
    @markralston4264 Před 8 lety

    Ok so I pitch a curveball and he says that the hand should be on the side of the ball, though when I throw the ball, I throw it like a fastball and let it roll off my hand and I'm throwing a shortened distance and it curves like I'm pitching the full distance in 45 feet.

    • @CoBeX31
      @CoBeX31 Před 8 lety

      mark ralston if you throw it like a fastball, you're probably throwing a soft slider.

  • @buponthingstv4645
    @buponthingstv4645 Před 8 lety +4

    thro the ball

  • @rcmonks
    @rcmonks Před 7 lety

    Actually, according to physics experts four seams will have less pressure than two seams. That's why a four seam fastball loses less speed as it flies and a two seamer sinks.

  • @ryanevans482
    @ryanevans482 Před 9 lety

    do u turn the ball to add the curve?????

    • @AnsliKrow
      @AnsliKrow Před 8 lety

      you throw it with your hand turned on its side, the pressure on the middle finger causes the ball to come off of the hand with a spin without losing as much speed

  • @tristanburke530
    @tristanburke530 Před 8 lety

    this is safe for the arm? my son keeps trying to throw curves. and if he plans to do it. I want him to do it right.

    • @lincolnwillard2718
      @lincolnwillard2718 Před 8 lety

      How will pronating your wrist get you hurt? I snap and probate my wrist on nearly all of my pitches, and I've never heard of it getting anyone hurt.

    • @hammxrs8539
      @hammxrs8539 Před 7 lety

      Tristan Burke If he does do it wrong he could ruin his elbow and or wrist then never be able to play again. Plus if he's not like 13 or older he probably shouldn't be doing it at all. He just need to do it right then it will be safe.

  • @esbengulliksen5039
    @esbengulliksen5039 Před 9 lety

    When I throw, it breaks like a good curveball should, but I can't control it well to pitch it for a strike and sometimes it doesent even reach the plate! Tell what I'm doing wrong

    • @MrEthizzle
      @MrEthizzle Před 8 lety

      +Ayy lmao maybe try just getting a little lower with your body. And make sure to point where you want to throw.

    • @esbengulliksen5039
      @esbengulliksen5039 Před 8 lety

      okay thanks

    • @colinbeckett1894
      @colinbeckett1894 Před 8 lety

      +Ayy lmao if it's not getting to the plate you may want to consider gripping it with your middle finger and thumb, while gently resting your pointer finger on the ball, for me the tighter grip allowed for a faster spin with more break, hope this helps!

  • @purezomb7732
    @purezomb7732 Před 8 lety +1

    how many times does he say middle finger in this

  • @jaydanhosaka3045
    @jaydanhosaka3045 Před 8 lety

    so thers no snapping in the wrist?

    • @CoBeX31
      @CoBeX31 Před 8 lety

      Jaydan Hosaka you ever watch someone play slap bass? It's like that.

  • @arnandocruzjr76
    @arnandocruzjr76 Před 6 lety

    What's the difference between a Knuckle 12-6 Curveball and a Knuckle Curveball?....

    • @timothymaggard5029
      @timothymaggard5029 Před 5 lety

      arm slot, pitchers with an over the top arm slot will throw a 12-6 pitchers with a 3/4 slot will throw tradition right to left break curveball, guys slightly more side arm will throw a slurve cross between curveball and slider.

  • @ripoffyt640
    @ripoffyt640 Před 7 lety

    How do you release it

    • @BrownBrown270
      @BrownBrown270 Před 3 lety

      Spin it. Kind of like a snap of the wrist.

  • @openneon9240
    @openneon9240 Před 8 lety

    You have to REAAAAALLY work on his technique cuz if you dont have it down your control is going ot be way off cuz you cant grip the ball too tight if yu throw it that way

  • @rainier798
    @rainier798 Před 11 lety +1

    Damn. I struck out 8 batters with this pitch. Thanks :D

  • @blacjackdaniels200
    @blacjackdaniels200 Před 6 lety +2

    Lemme see You throw the damn thing

  • @ryanevans482
    @ryanevans482 Před 9 lety

    so not flat?

  • @adamcvesely47
    @adamcvesely47 Před 7 lety

    2:02 wait a second....U mean - vacuum?

  • @johntt3469
    @johntt3469 Před 10 lety +1

    It's a pronation not a snap

    • @BetterpitchingPhil
      @BetterpitchingPhil  Před 10 lety

      agree its not about snapping...
      betterpitching.com/curveball-release-pronation-high-speed-video/
      czcams.com/video/3n_JE_59mH8/video.html
      czcams.com/video/iIenH2Kt0rg/video.html

    • @jacksonvance7404
      @jacksonvance7404 Před 8 lety

      +JONATHON COSSINS you wont have a 12-6 break with snap...youll get more of a powercurve break

  • @michaellopez3527
    @michaellopez3527 Před 8 lety

    i was able to throw one like Kershaw.....But i threw mine in a way i cant even explain even with the baseball itself

  • @franchescacole5854
    @franchescacole5854 Před 9 lety +1

    Im not allowed to throw one :/

  • @dannyponce16
    @dannyponce16 Před 9 lety

    1980

  • @rjjones4372
    @rjjones4372 Před 10 lety

    That's not a 12-6. That's a Knuckle Curve. Its the exact same grip Ian Kennedy and A.J. Burnett use.

    • @yenrabjb
      @yenrabjb Před 10 lety

      Ummm...no, that wasn't a knuckle curve.....

    • @rjjones4372
      @rjjones4372 Před 10 lety

      Blake Barney Just because it says it's a 12-6 doesn't mean its a 12-6. Look at footage of A.J. Burnett and Ian Kennedy. They both use Knuckle Curves with the exact same grip. Clayton Kershaw and Barry Zito use 12-6 curves.

  • @zanemoeller1931
    @zanemoeller1931 Před 10 lety

    My slider is a cure it's weird

  • @tatateeteetful
    @tatateeteetful Před 9 lety

    That's a frickin knuckle curve lol

  • @mikahcoleman97
    @mikahcoleman97 Před 9 lety

    When you throw like that the batter will detect a curve ball because of the hook your making with your arm.

    • @MrEthizzle
      @MrEthizzle Před 8 lety +1

      +Mikahcoleman Coleman As long as he retains the same arm angle, theres no way to tell.

    • @liamoday2690
      @liamoday2690 Před 5 lety

      But, If your arm is fast enough their is no way they will be able to see and react to it, it only take .4 seconds for the ball to get to the plate and unless your Javier Baez, you can only detect it when you see the tumbling action.

  • @909alrocca
    @909alrocca Před 10 lety

    Why do they call it a 12-6?

    • @kjkrop88
      @kjkrop88 Před 10 lety +2

      It's from the positions on a clock. It goes from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock.

  • @dustinwilcox5014
    @dustinwilcox5014 Před 7 lety

    Why is this in my suggested videos???

  • @robertneubarth4950
    @robertneubarth4950 Před 9 lety

    it depends how u throw it pal

  • @evephillips3464
    @evephillips3464 Před 10 lety

    really this is not true hes just saying oohh just throw it with your middle finger on tight. no you DO have to snap your wrist!!

    • @TheCenation76
      @TheCenation76 Před 9 lety

      No you don't. Snapping your wrist will put so much tension on your muscles and tendons, trust me I'm saying this from experience

  • @brandonyankees1
    @brandonyankees1 Před 5 lety

    I throw this pitch nasty

  • @johntt3469
    @johntt3469 Před 10 lety

    Teaching how to get tommy John this is brutal not correct at all

  • @trickshotgods6173
    @trickshotgods6173 Před 8 lety

    I feel like a idiot looking this up

  • @patrickmcgovern7443
    @patrickmcgovern7443 Před 10 lety +1

    You see you can't throw more than three a game or there is a severe risk of breaking your elbow

  • @shankenoh9419
    @shankenoh9419 Před 10 lety

    Dude thats my curveball!!!!how dare you!!!!!!

  • @mollycombs5584
    @mollycombs5584 Před 8 lety +1

    I'm 14 and Clayton K said mine was college level and I don't do most of your things

  • @joshblake5192
    @joshblake5192 Před 10 lety

    Air pressure?? You know nothing

    • @lukasbanhidy4305
      @lukasbanhidy4305 Před 9 lety +3

      Yes, air pressure makes it work. Look up the Magnus Effect and educate yourself before you start criticizing.