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Sage Steele and Adam Carolla on the pros and cons of social media, the hypocrisy of politicians, defying shutdown orders, standing up against government overreach, the civil rights movement, statue removals and how other protests are handled, double standards in coverage to various events, Adam’s difficult neighbors, not succumbing to social pressure, the sad decline of California, Adam’s career in Hollywood, and much, much more.
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Who else loathes Newsom?
And yet he may become the democrat candidate for president. Newsom is a classic example of failing upward. Keeps getting elected on name recognition alone.
THIS has been going on long before Newsome
Everyone. He shouldn’t run for the office at all.
I despise that man he ruined SF and now he is ruining California. God help us if he becomes president.
Newsom wants to charge drivers .30 per mile. Let’s see if the people rise up against Newsom.
This state is run by public employee unions who will never vote against their own self interest. There is no bottom.
It’s not the public employee unions. It’s power-hungry progressive Democrats who stir up racial hatred, push racist and sexist diversity policies, and promote unlimited illegal immigration.
Spot on
And because of that, this state will soon have breadlines. No one here, no tax base no money, no services! You people are eating your own!
And many leave California when they retire, and take their fat pensions with them.
I’m hear for it tho. Hand me the popcorn
Been in California since 1965 and watched the change. Illegal immigration played a huge part in that change.
Same.. I was born here that year. In the 70s, early 80s, my grandma was able to afford a 2 br/1ba apt in Anaheim on a nurses aid salary (not a lot of money). That neighborhood is now overpopulated with illegals. School test scores declined almost exactly the same as the amount of illegals has increased:
And Democrats are the reason there was and is so much illegal immigrants
Honestly every border state is terrible. Go to the Midwest or higher it is 1960 still.
@@joesmith3590 idk.. I used to go to Iowa in the 70s and 80s. Never saw Hispanics. Now, there are a lot working in meatpacking and other ag jobs.
Always blaming Jews and illegals
The people that made it this way and the people that defend them are in total denial. The disconnect is unbelievable.
I could say the same about the other side.
@@theslowevo9303 Did you ignore the fact that the people leaving California are moving to red states?
I grew up in California. Loved it! But after 30 years there I had to flee. The insanity of the government Makes the place unlivable. I am much happier now.
Where did you move to?
You can not solve the problem until you admit you have a problem , not enough people in California will admit they have a problem in Government
They don't solve problems, they flee them. And vote for the same policies wherever they go. They're no different than the illegal immigrants. Destroy their homeland. Flee. And create the same thing wherever they go.
I will never vote for another democrat EVER again! What disaster our country is now and it has been done in the last 3.5 years! Disgusting!
My girlfriend's ''hippie chick '' sister moved from the Mid-Atlantic area to California about 35 years ago,.....and still lives there. Back in the day people were a bit jealous of her,...now most feel sorry for her. I think she smokes weed constantly,...so she doesn't realize how much the state SUCKS!!
What's wrong with weed? This is the problem with republicans, they are all hung up on trivial nonsense like marijuana.
I left Commiefornia 3 yrs ago and moved to America….. thank God I did!
good for you!
3 years myself.
OC to NM.
54 years in a paradise that no longer exists.
Sad.
Why do you infer that the state of California is communist? Please be specific.
@@Horsefingerandthetaintwrights -It is sad, i loved San Diego, now it's a Demorat 3rd World Sh!thole!
Same here. Left 2 years ago after decades in Los Angeles. My quality of life instantly improved.
It is sad the manner in which California has been destroyed by the Dems.
My parents were born in Italy in the late 1920's and the old saying my grandparents said to my parents was "andiamo a California a fare chiodi" in other words, it was always viewed, even from European countries, to be a place of opportunity and prosperity, not the cesspool it has become.
“Soldi”= money/ “Chiodi”= nails
Maybe we can call it "bottom" when Adam Schiff becomes Senator.
My neighbors are idiots.
I have Katie Porter 🤮
This assumes that the elections are honest.
California is where all the dems excel at failing up.
Be careful you might get Kamala as Gov. of CA. The car traffic fleeing to the East will look like a swarm of Bees.
@@mafp22w there is a LOT OF ballot harvesting in California. I’m in Orange County, and in 2018, Republicans had one almost every seat when I went to bed on election night. Several days later, many of those seats turned blue, after all the mail-in ballots were counted.
This is so true. Been in California all my life. Moving out of state in a month. The politics have completely destroyed this state. I wish people would stop voting democrat!!!
I moved to California in 1996 when I graduated from university during the tech boom. When I first arrived in Nor Cal, I honestly thought to myself that I could never see myself leaving. it was an amazing place at the time.
14 years later in 2010, I left and never looked back. California is NOT the same state it was in the 80s and 90s. Ridiculous cost of living. Huge spike in crime. Terrible services. Every metric you could think of is moving in the wrong direction in California. I still have friends there and I wish them well. But I couldn't be happier that I moved.
You should have seen it in the seventies growing up in So Cal. Was a cool place. A lot of good memories growing up in OC.
I’ve been in Cali for 40 years. I moved from Buffalo. It was the land of opportunity. Socialism kills everything that it touches. 100% self inflicted. Buffalo got ruined by unavoidable macroeconomic things.
Please forward all your Social Security checks to me. Also, don't ever call the police or fire department OR walk on sidewalks since you hate socialism so much.
Buffalo is screwed up,due to Cuomo and Hochul.High taxes and welfare.
I moved here (CA) 15 years ago. Since moving here, I have made three super close friends. All three were born and raised here in CA. All three have left and moved to other states. I hope to follow them soon!
I was born and raised in San Diego and lived there for 57 years. Never, in my wildest dreams, did I ever think I would leave San Diego, one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Thanks to the damage that the Democrat party and Gavin Newsom have done to the state of CA I was forced to leave. Arizona is my home now. My values are no longer represented in CA.
San Diego was once a Republican stronghold in CA and when the city government went from Republican to Democrat (it was run by Republicans for the first 50 years of my life) things turned bad. Taxes, regulations, gas prices, home prices, the education system, homeless problem, and crime rate forced me to leave.
CA is gone and it will never be the same. There is no middle class left in CA. There is just the "haves and have nots ".
Democrats destroy everything.
The whole OC & Inland Empire were strong red when I was born in early 70’s. Spent 32 years in OC.
@@Kerry-fw6jt I was born in OC in 65.. it was the “Orange Curtain” until the early 80s. It started turning blue when all the aerospace jobs started leaving, and illegals started inundating it, along with the transplants. The Vietnamese that settled here were pretty conservative, but the second and third generation are turning more blue.
I wish they would stop leaving California it’s driving rents and Home prices through the roof
Unchecked immigration is doing that. Get ready for even higher prices with Joe Biden's open borders.
Why do you think people are leaving California? 20 million transplants and immigrants have moved here the last 30!years and done the same thing to California 🤷
It’s good if you own the house.
@@Kerry-fw6jt unfortunately, I don’t. I bought one at the peak of the market in 2006. Got laid-off my job in 2008 and ended up having to do a short-sale. Lost about $80k that I put down, and haven’t recovered, since. I couldn’t get a loan modification, like the people that put 0-3% down.
Remember, it’s the locals who are the ones selling their homes at high prices.
Adam Carolla is awesome. Hard to believe him and Kimmel worked together and are supposedly still friends. They are so opposite from each other
The drive to sell your soul and become a Hollywood asshole is strong. These people will let themselves be SA'd for just a whiff of fame.
Thats being American, you can still have friendships if you disagree with an opinion
@@stingray427man While that is true. Kimmel is over the top divisive every single day and preaching to millions and pro-America destruction. This is a very different thing than two friends arguing over politics but still having a lot in common. I would actually be surprised if they were friendly still.
You can't be friends with someone you disagree with politically? That is just sad.
@@theslowevo9303 YOu can... It is just hard to believe as caustic (every day) and 100% opposite on views as Kimmel and Corolla are that I can't imagine they are friends. In fact, I would get they are not because they are polar opposites on virtually everything
Born and raised in Santa Barbara. Left for the military at 18, 50 years ago. So glad I left when it was still half way normal. The degradation over that time is unbelievable. Been in Alaska for the last 30+ years and the contrast (other than Anchorage) is incredible.
"Other than Anchorage" That's what I've heard. Living in Alaska... wow
I live in Anchorage... and yes, this city has problems... partially due to a mostly liberal city assembly (and soon to be liberal mayor). :-(
@@Jameskonigchr What a surprise... NOT
@@travisjazzbo3490 liberals ruin everything
@@Jameskonigchr I'm in Wasilla. Was really sad to see her elected. I just can't believe the ignorance and apathy that has taken over there.
When I see California plates, I cringe.
I want to make a bumper sticker that says Don't CA my Texas. Although ... I am sure there is one already out there. I cringe whenever I see an out of state plate.
Try not to cringe lol
There’s so many republicans here especially Northern California!
The voting stats say otherwise unless you're from rural northeast California in Lassen or Modoc County.
You’re just jealous
@@chrisscalzo4662 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are
Pat Riley reports multiple break-ins with only his hair products being stolen. Police say Trail leads to Sacramento.
Born and raised in CA. At 58yrs old I fled. I miss the conveniences but my life is so much better.
Same. My Cost of living has dropped by 50%. I no longer have to commute, low crime, and get access to lots of free/low cost outdoor activities. The weather is mild and winters are similar to the Lake Tahoe area.
I left South Orange County for Boerne, Texas. I'm not alone. Lots of others are here to the chagrin of the locals.
I’m an OC native and lived in south Texas for a couple years while in the military. I liked it, except for the weather. Too hot and humid.
@@gregoryberg5806 I miss OC food but my house is bigger.
@@BirdDogey1 depends on your priorities. I lived in Utah for 10 years, with no plans of moving back. I came back 20 years ago due to my now ex-wife living in California. My daughter graduates high school next year, so I’ll probably be leaving again in the next couple years.
Dont Commiefornia my Texas. Leave your stupid there or go back.
Yeah. Central Texas/hill country is over run with Californians. Its only chagrin, because y'all call the cops every time y'all hear a gun shot since y'all dont know you can shoot on your property if you own 10 acres or more. And y'all keep voting Democrat, and change elections and then our towns. Y'all are rude the way y'all drive, how you navigate lines at stores and generally are not cordial. You buy houses around us for cash over asking price, affecting our property taxes, then have the gall to make condescending comments about how texans vote red. But at least you watch videos like this, so hopefully youre not completely a lost cause. But those reasons above are why people hate to see california plates.
People from California migrated to Seattle area many years back but most returned when they hated the weather.
Most of them stayed. Hence the craptastic turn of events for Seattle and Oregon.
@@jamesdellaneve9005and people have move TO California the last 40 years from other states and countries, and screwed California up. Our population has gone from 20 million to 40 million in that time, and most of the cause wasn’t California natives giving birth.
I would go to CA for Sage , but that's about it ....
In 81, US Navy, out of Boot Camp and school. I got to pick orders to NAS Pt Mugu. The best unbelievable 4 years of my life. I thank god everyday I left LA with my family in the 90s.
PT Mugu was the best. Ventura County so much nicer than LA. Also left in 90s but dad was stationed at mugu twice!
I had to leave.
Glad I'm in southern OK. Not ruined by Californians yet.
Just remember to leave your Commiefornia ways behind you and dont destroy another state.
Thank you! Great pod.
This lady is a class act. She’s Beautiful.
Florida, Texas and Tennessee are booming right now.
Texas is closed.
My family is moving out of Florida, because they got priced out by the high cost of home ownership mostly due to high insurance rates.
The weather tho compared to California
Booming doesn't equate to quality of life. In fact, it does the opposite especially when it's b l u e state pests
How many of the California refugees will continue to vote for woke leftists in their new states I wonder? Some people never learn.
When I was 16, I moved with my family from Oregon to CA in 1963. Great. Lived in both the LA area and SF area. Later, I became one of the people who left CA and ended up in western North Carolina. That was one of the Top 3 decisions I have made in my life. I did it in 2003 because CA had already become too Crazytown for me. I can't imagine having stayed there another 21 years and the shiite hole I would be living in now. Where I am now I don't have to imagine it. Great.
Grew up in the West Valley. Loved growing up in LA. Moved to East Texas just like the 70 & 80s in LA
My son and family left Merced last month for Arizona. Mostly because they couldn't get state aid after being flooded.
Lived in Bay Area all my life moved to Tampa. Went back to visit and couldn’t wait to get the hell out of there. It WAS nice at one time
Thank you for speaking out girl, you have a strong voice
Politics/religion over the past 150-plus years have been the main reason that millions of people fled from Europe, Asia, South America, etc. Regrettably, politics now is doing that to California and other "woke" sections of America. Never thought that places with the intrinsic advantages of a city like San Francisco would be so vulnerable to lousy ideology and bad voting practices or (presumably non-rigged) elections.
Los Angeles native here, other natives of Los Angeles have been moving out of the city for a very long time and in the 2000s it wasn't often people not native to the city ran into those who were. A majority of those originally from Los Angeles had left the city many years ago because of the large number of people not just moving into the city but demanding that the city change to how they want it to be instead of adapting to how the natives of Los Angeles were. It ruined a huge aspect of what made the city so great.
Why would you move ? You elected those officials. So you destroy a city / state then move to another state to carry over your bad beliefs and political standpoints. A lot of state don’t want your shit ! Stay in your own demise !
Do you really believe that EVERY person in California voted/supports the current government sham show, and that anyone who might choose to move elsewhere is going to destroy where they might relocate to?
You assume *_everyone_* in CA voted for this insanity. I sure as hell didn't.
Our demise came with leftist transplants moving here from back east. Most people I know that have left California are conservatives.. they’re leaving because of all the leftists from other states and countries that have moved here..20 million the last 30 years
Didn't vote for it either. I am a conservative and voted that way.
Ca has more republicans then all but like 3 states. If you count with your fingers it is best to not comment.
It's necessary to bottom out because people are hanging on to power. It's all they care about.
In the '80s everybody fled to California either for jobs or because they wanted to be near the beach and enjoy weather without snow.
Snow and cold weather are not horrible. I like it. Mudslides and terrible politics are horrible. And also Gavin Newsom.
When I visited San Diego and LA a few times, I was surprised that the beach and especially the water temp are FREEZING. Even in July. Not what I saw on TV. Now the beaches and water have Tijuana sludge and being closed down. Sad.
The California electorate needs that “moment of clarity” that comes when alcoholics are receptive to changing their lives.
YEAH! GET IT ON! GOT TO GET IT ON!!!
Years ago I took family to a reunion in Michigan. At different businesses I was often asked why I would come to Michigan from such a cool State as Calivezuela. Now when I travel I make sure to tell the locals I’m not moving there.
Incredibly well said.
California was Paradise when I went there in 1971. Sure it had its scummy areas. What place doesn’t? I was so enamored that I wanted to go over the hill from the Navy just to live there. It was the ambience and the attitude was so refreshing. So long California, it was nice knowing ya.
Moved back to the United States from California after 39 years there in 2020. Good to be back. That place went down the toilet big time.
Newsom got voted back in like Brandon got the most votes of any president in the history of the United States.
It really is stunning when heard from Californians.
I escaped from California back to America last year after living in San Diego for almost 40 years. It's going to be decades coming back. The Newsom apologists refuse to believe there is a problem
11 year California resident originally from NJ, registered Independent 20+ years. Voted for Michael Shellenberger in the recall effort. (It doesn’t matter who I vote for anyway, this is a 1 party state). The Covid and BLM responses exposed the open wounds of the state’s governing policies, and its sanctuary status (for immigration, homelessness, medical sexual transitions, etc.) perpetuates the rot.
Why not leave? Well, where to go that isn’t becoming more crowded and unaffordable due to Californians migrating? That isn’t being pounded by flooding / tornadoes/ heatwaves / blizzards…
Why do we have to let the ship sink before we do anything to fix it, It is absolutely ridiculous .
We left San Diego too crowded and political climate sucks
Love California. Had to move out in 2012. It was bad then. I can only imagine what it is like now. BTW, I did move to South Carolina. Closest I could get to SoCal and still afford a coastal city. Love the beach.
"If this isn't the bottom, I don't wanna see what is". Very well said, Sage. Me, either. That's why I left.
As a native Californian who is the same age as Adam there are two things that happened. First and foremost was the cost of living jump took the joy and fun out of California. Now you have to think gee I have to work extra hard and spend a lot more money to be here. So in the back of your mind you keep thinking is it worth it? Back in the day the cost of living in California was about the same as the rest of the country so you never had to think that. When I was in college I lived half a block from the beach and I paid my rent, utilities, etc delivering pizza part time.
Second, California culture is gone. We grew up on surfing and going to punk rock shows. The surfing is still there but the laid back surf culture is kind of gone. Music is dead. And the mass influx of immigrants from all different places chopped up the culture into a thousand different sub cultures with no cohesion. So all we are left with that makes California special is good weather and nice beaches. That's great an all, but if you are working all the time to pay the huge premium that now comes with, is it worth it. Meh, probably not. I'm still here but I no longer love it.
Cost of living has nothing to do with it. My home is paid for and we left. Rich people left. It has always been crazy high cost. The culture is gone. Immigration and decades of taking the most liberal people from every state have ruined the morals of the state. Progressive policies are destructive.
Yeah, I was born and raised in California, I finally just had to leave this year as a 60 year-old. I moved to Oregon to be closer to my sisters who moved here about 25 years ago. Oregon isn't much better, but things are at leas affordable here for the most part, especially gas prices which are a bout $1.50 cheaper on average.
Left 2020 beginning of viral scam. Was considering it for a few years.
Left in 2022 for similar reasons. Had also been considering it for years. Kept hoping California would reverse course. It didn't. The viral scam showed me California would just keep doubling down on all the foolishness and corruption.
I loved California in the 80’s-early 90’s. Thank God my dad saw the change coming and got us out in 95.
So much better almost anywhere else.
I’ve been saying this. All the states we made fun of are laughing at us now. We’re fleeing to those places now. We used to have so many moving here from out of state. Now I’m an embarrassed California native.
We have to bottom out because we have SO MANY clueless residents who just reflexively vote Blue NO MATTER WHAT. Until those people suffer enough under this lame progressive orthodoxy we've been enjoying which has been ruinous to businesses and had large numbers of people moving away and cost residents enough money personally to where they're dipping into savings or doing without - maybe then they'll wake up and we will then find 'the bottom'.
It won't change them, trust me. No matter how terrible life gets, these Libs will never connect the dots because that's racist. Sure they may move out of instinct, but they will never admit their ideology is what caused all this. They already "know" their ideas are perfect.
California Dreams great show from the 90s
I've never thought much of California. I've visited several times - not impressed.
I was a cop in SoCal. I moved my family to east Tennessee a year ago. If you are a Republican, come here. Top reasons in order of importance:
1) Responsible, friendly, middle class people who will jump at a chance to help you.
2)Low taxes. No income tax. Ridiculously low vehicle registration tax and 1/3rd the property tax of California.
3)Lower prices. $3 gas. Lower grocery prices. Lower housing prices. If you sell your house in California and use that cash to buy here, you might find yourself in a mansion on 10 acres with a pond.
4) Wonderfull weather. I love the thunderstorms. It seems to rain once a week so everything is clean and green. No tornados here. Just the right amount of snow 2-5 inches for a month. It is more humid here, but it only hits you when you pick up a shovel.
5) low crime. Clean streets. Almost no homeless.
6) No traffic and no lines.
7) Fireworks and guns! You still have your freedoms here (Sullivan county).
I've seen the same thing happen to my home Vancouver. It's sad. I returned after 10 years and I could barely get an interview despite a STEM degree and 6 years experience. Wages are low. All the houses are owned by foreigners and criminals. It's disgusting when I think back to the beauty we had in the 90s.
CA was overrated even in the 1980s.
I first ventured to California 30 years ago. It was intoxicating. Decades later I found myself in and out of the state on business. It is beautiful and comfortable. But comfort leads to contempt. The west coast is due for the next Cascadia/San Andreas fault earthquake and comfort will disappear in an instant. And the cycle starts a new.
California will never change.
Sage, love your attitude and view on life. Hope you have much success.
I've known and even worked with Californians that moved to NE Kansas once they got close to retirement age. These are people who grew up in California in the 1950's and 60's. These people moved here in the mid 90's to early 2000 period. I ask them why here? They felt like the California they loved had already been ruined. Plus they could afford a nice house here, belong to a country club where they could actually get a tee time. The cost of living is reasonable, they could find jobs they liked that were part time, the people are friendly and the city is very attractive with lots of hills, trees, parks and flower beds all over the city. They felt like their quality of life was better. I've spent time in California from the south to the north over the years. I felt like San Francisco already had a problem twenty years ago. The last time I was there was 06 and I swore I'd never go back.
Can’t wait for the day she has a million subscribers
The forests are constantly burning throughout the summer now which has ruined spending the summers in the Sierra.🤮
Cal native - 68 years old - loved fountain valley until- had to get out. Moved to AZ - ALL my neighbors r Californians. In fact most people that live in Prescott r from CA!
Yep.
Nobody ever left in the past, true story. This is the first month that people willingly moved out of California. It was the moderate temperature that sent them over the edge.
Why is hobo abatement so difficult?
Adam is so spot on…..California was the dream state
Key word: WAS.
Adam
Get your car guy ass out of Cali
It’s over
Population is declining in California, but 4 story apartments are being built all over the state. Who is moving to California?
Foreigners
Moved out ten years ago
Adam, tell us how you really feel about Gavin Newsome
I grew up in Cherry Hill, NJ. What made Adam pick that as his example? Lol. Muhammed Ali lived in Cherry Hill, NJ in the early 70’s.
He was just using it as a random example. He was kinda pointing it out as an abstraction, as in the idea of moving anywhere outside of California was merely theoretical, but not something you'd actually do in practice. Cherry Hill, NJ is place you might have heard of if you grew up in CA, but would never consider going to because you lived in California. Some Californian are still of that kind of mindset that Adam is talking about, even though the state has changed for the worse. Many Californians are of the mindset that they live in the best state in the USA. They turn a blind eye to the corruption and horrible policies and live in a state of denial.
He probably knew someone or heard someone say they lived there or moving there and it stuck in his head that he had no idea where it was or what is there.
Its beautiful here in North Carolina ❤ CA is a dumpster fire right now
Oh, it's beautiful in California for sure, a whole lot of different kinds of beautiful in a lot of different places. And for years now it's been "a nice place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there." But now, sadly, it's not even a nice place to visit, at least not the airport that gets you there. It's hard to commit to stepping over turds and needles and unconscious homeless people in order to depart from there for Yosemite or the redwoods.
My wife's family is from California, and I've spent my share of very good times there, but for years I have joked that the state motto should be changed to, "Blessed by God, doomed by man."
@@joeday4293 It's sad what's happening to America, pray and vote ❤️
It’s really sad, because I’m born and raised in California too. To see what it once was, to see what it’s become now is disgusting. I’ve voted democrat for most of my life, and stopped a few years ago. at some point when you see the same party, continuously make bad decisions, I don’t see how you can continue to support them. Even if you don’t agree with republicans, which I don’t on a lot of issues. At this point, what do we have to lose? With the super majority democrats have in this state, it’s like they don’t even have to try to take care of their voters. People always vote along party lines anyway.
My wife and I are also doing our research to leave and just go anywhere else but California.
Go anywhere
Its not just the Governor and the Legislature. Its the people as well. They're just as insufferable and stifling. They hate progress, they are narcissistic, they are insecure, they are neurotic, they are quick to anger, they only think short-term, and they are loud and obnoxious. There are many good people in California, but a good 60% or more are as I described above. California was the token destination for so long that it attracted the worst in the country and from abroad as well as the good. However there has been a terminal number of bad people who have entered and lived in the state for too long. California is now dysfunctional and a lost cause. Whats the point of good weather and good food when you're taxed to death and the roads aren't even as good as the roads in Ohio.
I laugh now at the intro to the old Dragnet series where Joe Friday speaks of all the great things in California but, OCCASIONALLY things go wrong and for that he carries a badge.
Joe is spinning in his grave today.
People have been moving for awhile to Arizona and Nevada for a long time now and if you don't believe me look at their growth.
But then again myself and most all who I know have always been poor🤷♂️
I spent 25 years in the military yearning to return to my home state of California. We moved to the SF Bay Area in 1999 and were happy for 10 years. In 2009 we moved to Santa Maria for 10 more years and we had to move out of state to afford retirement. What the Democrats have done to my state is criminal. It's just a crying shame!
STAY in CA! You will hate it if you move!
They're not coming back, sorry
Unions built america., they also destroyed it. Left Cali in 83.. Came back to Illinois, where many was moving out for jobs.. all the ones that went to Cali regretted it, sending back horror story's How could it be worse than Illinois..? - Well it CAN.
Guess what? There are a whole lot more than "fifteen" nice places in this country.
Left ca. 30 + years ago. Today, I wouldn't even visit. Much better places to go.
I didn't catch any examples of how "we ruined it" and what "bottoming out" actually means.
I moved to LA in the 80s. It was completely different then. Because of lizard-boy Newsom we are moving to Florida. I've lined up my financing and are going to Tampa in two months to look at properties.
Left in 1983 never looked back
Freeways are still jam packed and housing sky high
😁🎂🎉
7.01.83
I already got what I wished for. ☕️🤗 🤭❤️
Hey guy .
Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom assumed office on January 7, 2019. His second term will end on January 4, 2027. An overview based on people leaving the state.
People are leaving California for various reasons, driven by both economic and personal factors.
HIGH COST OF LIVING: Housing Costs: California's housing market is notoriously expensive. While other states such as New York and Hawaii also have high housing costs, California's combination of high prices, limited supply, and significant income disparity makes it the state with the highest housing prices relative to income.
TAXES: The state with the highest taxes in the nation is California. This includes a combination of state income tax, sales tax, and property tax. California has a progressive income tax system with the highest top marginal tax rate in the country, reaching up to 13.3% for high-income earners.
The state has a base sales tax rate of 7.25%, which is among the highest in the nation. Local jurisdictions can add their own sales taxes, leading to combined rates that can exceed 10% in some areas.
While California's property tax rates are not the highest in the nation, the HIGH PROPERTY VALUES result in significant property tax bills. As of 2024, the average cost of a house in California varies significantly depending on the region, but statewide, the median home price is approximately $760,000.
HOUSING SHORTAGE: Limited housing supply and strict zoning laws have led to a significant housing shortage, making it difficult for many people to find affordable housing options. In 2023, California saw approximately 110,000 housing starts. This figure includes both single-family and multi-family housing units.
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS: The state has a high rate of homelessness, particularly in urban areas like Los Angeles and San Francisco, contributing to concerns about safety and quality of life. California has the largest number of homeless people in the United States. As of the latest available data in 2023, California ACCOUNTED for about 30% of the nation’s homeless population.
The mild climate in many parts of California can make living outdoors more feasible than in states with harsher weather conditions, attracting homeless individuals from other regions.
NATURAL DISASTERS: Frequent natural disasters, such as wildfires, earthquakes, and droughts, pose significant risks and inconveniences, prompting some residents to relocate to areas with fewer environmental threats.
California typically experiences the largest number of wildfires and acres burned annually compared to other states in the United States. California is frequently cited as the state that experiences the most severe and widespread droughts in the United States
QUALITY OF LIFE: Issues like traffic congestion, long commute times, and pollution in major cities can negatively impact the quality of life for many Californians. Otherwise, California tends to rank in the middle to upper tier among U.S. states.
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES ELSEWHERE: Other states offer comparable or better job opportunities, often with lower costs of living and better business climates, attracting Californians to relocate. California’s economy has shown signs of strain recently. The state is in the middle of back-to-back multi-billion dollar budget deficits because of declines in state tax revenue. California’s unemployment rate is 5.3%, which is above the national average and the highest of any state.
POLITICAL CLIMATE: Some residents are dissatisfied with California's political climate, which they feel is too liberal or not aligned with their personal beliefs and values.
BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT: High business taxes and stringent regulations can make it challenging for businesses to thrive, leading companies and entrepreneurs to move to states with more favorable business environments.
RETIREMENT: Many retirees seek to stretch their retirement savings further by moving to states with lower living costs, better tax benefits, and milder climates.
These factors collectively contribute to the trend of people leaving California in search of more affordable, less stressful living conditions, and better opportunities elsewhere.
Adam is completely wrong here. When the aerospace industry collapsed in the 1990s, a LOT of people left southern California. NAFTA also happened around the same time and that led to a lot of people leaving also. California was a red state up until then. Reagan won California twice and Bush won it in 1988 and would have won it again in 1992 had Ross Perot not run. Then it became solid blue in 1996 and has been ever since.
I can answer some of this. San Francisco still has too many wealty people outside the city, they are the tech crowd they make alot of money which insulates them to some degree from everyone else. Thats why California will need to hit absolute bottom, when it affects the wealth then maybe change will occur.