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Vintage Distressed VS6 vs Gibson SG Standard Shootout
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- čas přidán 12. 12. 2016
- A head to head with this cheap and affordable copy versus the real deal.
Here's the updated SG from Vintage - www.thomann.de...
Both guitars are stock with no mods. The Vintage features Wilkinson hardware and pickups and The Gibson is from 2005 with 490R 498T Humbuckers.
Amp - Fender Hot Rod Deluxe II
Pedals - Ramble FX Marvel Drive
90s EHX BIg Muff Pi
Digitech Bad Monkey
Mic - Shure SM57
Audio Interface - Audient ID22
Give the guy a break. The reason he played Back in Black that way is so that he wouldn't get in trouble with Intellectual property rights violation. CZcams could say this video violates the owners copyright of the song. Also there is nothing wrong with improvising and trying different things. So Chill !
You got it spot on mate. Thanks for saying that
So what is the problem here?
Actually it does and it has before. Try it out on your channel
even on Facebook I remember having a live stream and in the background very faint was David Gilmour song I wound up getting a message to remove it because of copyrights, you have to change the riffs up temp tone chords whatever, but I have always liked the Vintage Brand, for the money you are getting a pretty decent guitar with good quality for under £300 or so quid ,.
Imran Atheist Former-Muslim Doesn’t sound like back in black. But still sounded pretty cool👍👍
I like how you play that AB/CD riff!
Vintage VS6 wins, hands down. Finally got one quite unexpectedly, and love everything about it. Could be slightly better balanced, but that is something that all SG guitars are known for.
Is this v69 an upgrade on my epi lp special?
This guy is the king of avoiding copyright infringement. Absolutely hilarious. Reminds me of the Family Guy episode where they make fun of copyright. Also, Vintage guitars are awesome.
Dead right dude,it’s a proper skill set this guy has developed 😂
Just change Minor Key to major Key 🤷🏽♂️
My (old like yours) VS6 is still my favourite guitar. I put a deusenberg Les Trem on it, epic. The reason Gibson sued is because these were not far off the Gibson offering and way better than the Epiphone for considerably less scratch.
Love the sound of your Vintage and I can honestly say, I love your Big Muff!
jonnietube thanks man! Big muffs time
The bad monkey sounded fantastic too
I played one of these today. I thought it was an excellent SG copy. The neck was very playable, the action was good, the pick-ups were superb [they had a lot of the Gibson sound about them]. The only odd thing for me, was the unusual neck length, although I'm not used to SG's. I soon forgot about it.
All in all a great guitar - for a fraction of the price of a Gibson and to me, better than an Epiphone.
What I think is that the Vintage has a sort of high quality sound and the Gibson has another sort of high quality sound . They can be made to sound the same
( I've heard it ) but why? If a person wants to shell out for a Gibson that's their choice .
Got one as my first, mostly because it was dirt cheap and me being Iommi fan it had to be SG, still have it, still love it.
I had a Gibson SG in mid 70s...can't remember exactly what it cost, probably over £400. My Vintage VS6 cost me £190 new couple of years ago... I did fit some Tonerider Alnico II replacement pickups, but apart from that there's been nothing that needed doing to the guitar. Very low action, no buzzing frets and the nut seems fine. Incredible value for money.... probably the best guitar I've ever owned and I've owned a few Gibsons and other well known makes over the years. Its unusual to get a guitar that doesn't need setting up, i.e. frets levelling or nut remade etc etc....maybe I was lucky here.
I was the second owner of this VS6 and I think the original owner messed about with.
Great guitars and if they had a different name on the headstock, people would be buying them left, right and centre
Nice video man, I've also got a Vintage VS6 for six months now!
Actually I wanted to go for an Epiphone LP but my favourite guitar store made the switch to selling Vintage type guitars instead of Epiphone...
The guy at the store told me that Gibson/Epiphone had some serious unrealistic demands and so they quit selling Gibsons etc.
I play acoustics for more than 15 years, and had a Squier strat back in the day but had no real 'fun' playing it, but that was also because I didn't delve into the specs or reviews and stuff...
Shorty I wanted to try playing electric guitar again, and hence my heroes from the classic rock all drive a Les Paul, this was the guitar I'd been lookin for.. Until I tried the Vintage VS6 in the corner..
Man that first touch felt good, and I was looking for an excuse to still buy the Epiphone Les Paul but couldn't find any.. So I trusted my gut feeling and took the VS6 home with me...
Though I had some serious doubts back then, I now realise it was the best choice I've ever made!
Also been playing more on it than my acoustics.. Great guitar for the price!!!
(BTW sorry for any bad spelling/grammar, I'm Dutch)
Just bought one of the old one of these for 160£ it had never been played until I got it in my hands it’s a beat of a guitar. And I highly recommend vintage guitars they’re awesome!
This is a wonderful guitar for sure. I don't have it any longer.
Here for the SG goodness. Wouldn't mind a series on different popular brands vs a cheaper or alternative model that is a copy or homage.. need to seee the albatrez vs the gibson!!!
just had to go back and watch one of the earliest vids, to see how far you've come sir, Gav(nz)
I had mine since 2003, gold finish and cherry, done some fret levelling, super low action.
Bought a Vintage VS6 around 2013 as an upgrade of a beginner Squire bulletstrat bought in 2006. Even tho the consumer desire to buy a new one got me in these years, untill now in 2022 I haven't and I still haven't felt the NEED to get something better than that VS6. I love that guitar so much, nowdays they make them with a slightly different shape wich I don't like, but still, they are awesome. I will buy (or make) new different shaped guitars in the future but just for the aesthetics, like Tele or Jag. That VS6 still gives me joy everytime I play it. Also one day I would like to buy one used and pimp it up with expensive pickups to see what happens but Wilkinson's are great for their price range.
Vintage is every bit as good as the things they are inspired by, for a third of the price. Get off the brand trip and get a good guitar for cheap, kiddos.
Couldn't agree more. Got a VS6, 3 of their Les Paul's - one of which is even better than my Gibson imho for sound/neck - and a few strats and teles (yeah I kinda got hooked on buying guitars during covid lol). Vintage make some damn fine guitars. Been playing for over 40 years now and they have been a real revelation in the last year. Cheap and kick ass :)
The Vintage guitar featured is long since discontinued! Vintage now only makes a reissue version which has one of the cutaways offset and an extended lower bout.
Plenty of older VS6 around, easy to spot because of that older offset. They usually go for £120, a silly price for a guitar of such quality. Gibson SG felt very light and cheap compared to VS6.
Wow i never thought I'd hear a surf version of paranoid but it was awesome
I wish those were available in the US. Seem like gnarly guitars.
They are pretty great. Fretboard radiuses are a little flatter than Gibson/Epiphone but very, very cool guitars.
Hank Horsecore heard of eBay?
look on google I remember a USA vendor
Thomann ships to the USA Jsyk, not sure about shipping though
I just picked one up today from my local music store in the states. Had several.
Awesome guitar. Just picked up mine today for £80!! I love it. Playability is nice. Nice satin style neck which I like. Put new 10s on didn't have a problem with the nut. Frets seem OK. If you say you'd choose this I'm happy with that.
I'm a big Weller fan so this gets me to the era I wanna be in.
Sold mine today (biding version). Didn’t like the neck, it‘s some weird V shape..
Good thing, it has no neck dive!
Pickups were nice, but nothing extraordinary.
My Epiphone G400 worn brown, I will never sell :)
It has neck dive, but the neck is just amazing for the price.
I do have an early Vintage V100, which I also never will sell, best pickups in a LP that I‘ve ever had.
And I owned a Gibson with 490/498, that I sold a week ago..
Amigo podras ayudarme por favor, estoy buscando un sonido lo mas similar a la Gibson SG...nose si comprar la Epiphone SG 400 Pro o la Vintage SG V6. Gracias
Hey, hermano. Busca la Vintage VS6 qui es una guitarra más barata y mejor construida.
I'm getting a VS6 next week. Since both my Jackson JS32 and my Vintage V6HMBB have finicky trems, I need a workhorse I can tune on the fly and this one seems to be up to it.
ive put a roller bridge and a b5 bigsby on mine with seymour 59blues pickups the guitar is so nice the vs6 and the v100 are really good guitars for the money ..
John Walters hey John. I think that was a really good move. I have a v100 too. Great guitars and after a good setup, they are excellent
I did the excact same thing, nice.
Blown away. That sounds amazing.
Thanks man, I think the Vintage range of guitars are phenomenal value for money
The v6 is just awesome used one since 2008 solid......just don't drop it or let it fall even 8 inches from hardwood flooring it will Crack body....nothing a little glue won't fix ...great tones through a tube amp screw solid state...keep practicing man.
lol that was some BTEC back in black.
Joe - Gaming Btec?
He means it was shit 😂
Interlectual property copyright
I've ordered one of the VS6 guitars. Don't think it's had any work done to it. I watched this wanting some info on if these guitars are good. Thanks for the awesome video.
You're welcome Shay. Enjoy the guitar!
Hola, que sg, me recomendarías, epiphone sg standard, tokai sg 64, vintage vs6 o Harley benton. Muchas gracias.
I had Sg s epiphone ( korean and cheqz) Gibson, japanese tokai and vintage.... vs6 is very well made guitar...keep in tune well, good finish , electronics... sound...woods... better than epiphone.
ive got the first got the first version of the sv6 it's about 12 plus now the bridge pickups are pealing leaving green nickel underneath. well it's been well used over the years still sounds amazing.
the new versions do look much better quailty.
I think they changed a lot after Trevor Wilkinson got involved. That sounds like a guitar with character though!
Nice review! Thanks!
Thank you!
So between that one and the Epiphone SG Special with P90s, which is slightly more expensive, what's the best option?
Vintage Distressed VS6 looks and sounds very nice
odes the peddles make up the guitar then the Gibson SG with out the peddles?????????????
i really trust the guitar geek reviews !! they are always on point !
Thanks Brian. I really appreciate that
Love Your shirt!!! And the guitar sounds awesome! :D
thanks Mr Dinky!
You remind me of logic, nice video btw 👏
My dude played a Chinese knockoff Back in Black lmao
Imagine CZcams blocked this and it said "we heav bcloked tihs vedio" sarcastically
The Gibson wins the sound contest hands down, there's no comparison. The VS6 (older distressed version like this one) are better guitars than the older Epiphones but don't hold up against the new ones.
Do you think the VS6 would STILL be better than a 2020 Epiphone sg standard ( by gibson)? I'm in doubt between these two. Thanks
I haven’t played a recent VS6. But I don’t like the new shape. The new epiphone SGs are great so… it’s a different comparison. This year, I would go for epiphone
The vert first guitar I ever has a Vintage SG copy in black (~2002-2004). As a first guitars went Id say it was pretty dam good compared to the other affordable gear at the time. Wonder how it hold up nowadays?
That’s a great first guitar, my first guitar was awful in retrospect. I think the VS6 really holds up against Guitars in its price range today. Vintage make great Guitars
Nice shootout! How well is Vintage weight balanced, does it have neck dive?
No
Hello ! in the case of the 400 Pro, the neck is glued ...does it give any problems by change the neck or something.. which advantages or disadvantages result from this? Thank you in advance! Greetz from northern europe! :-)
Hi! You cannot simply change the neck on a set neck guitar.
Advantages of a set neck can include increased sustain. It's probably worth you googling this.
so you had to do a fret levelling? a polishing of the frets was not enough?
Sincerly, on the start, I could not distinguish, they sound the same to me. Just try without looking...
I listened without looking and I could tell the difference. The Gibson sounded fuller to me. Maybe you need better speakers/headphones?
I'm planning on getting one of these (setup already done), so thanks for the review!
This is one of the special and very rare VS6 Icons (distressed). Its not a standard JHS VS6 and you are raising expectation unrealistically!! You should have made this clear in the video because every Tom Dick and Harry will think oh great I'll go out and get one. It's' a great guitar but sadly long since discontinued (JHS Vintage stopped making this model in 2013 that's 3 years before you shot the video!!). Its not easy to find on the used market either, took me months to track one down in the UK. It will be even harder to find one on the used market outside the UK, so good luck trying to find one!
This video was made in 2016 and there were plenty around then.
@@TheGuitarGeek I can categorically tell you that production ended in 2013. The guitars still around in 2016 were old stock.
@@TheGuitarGeek I think you are getting confused and need to check the JHS Vintage catalogues. In 2013 JHS Vintage were still producing the VS6 Icon MRCR but that year they changed the guitar styling to included an offset lower horn and extended lower bout. They made the guitar in that configuration for about 2 years then discontinued the model. They then reintroduced it in 2018 as part of their reissue line however, the new version has neck binding as well as the offsets. Both guitars looks similar to the guitar you feature that's why I think you maybe confused.
the neck was the only thing that kept me from buying an epipi, or Gibson SG, didn't care for the "chunky" feel of it. will have to try one of these. who distributes these in u.s.?
You can get it from thomann, they ship worldwide from what i remember and also do a great job with the packing and stuff. Great shop,and also great prices. The shipping might take up to 2 weeks and might be a little expensive (around 100 bucks) but that guitar is an absolute bargain and if your order is greater that 400 euros,which is roughly 430 bucks, you get free shipping.Just add a gigbag,some strings and some locking tuners and your good to go mate ^ ^
Is the guitar small or is the dude huge?
GREETINGS, TINY NORMAL PEOPLE. I AM A GIANT!!
love my VS6 with vibrola type trem but its damn heavy
But yeah, I testes without headphones, on smartphone, I don't find great difference, I think the Vintage Sounds good also but different
Isaque E G Silva they are quite different but both good. The vintage is great for the Money
The Gibson SG looked a lot bigger though
Vintage is good deal for money, but Ginson sound is much better in my humble opinion.
Ginson 😂
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It's a beginners guitar. What should a beginner do with a guitar that needs fret levelling? It's firewood, like Epiphones.
How much would it cost professionally to do the work you said it needs?
I can't comment on what others would charge but I just ask your local luthier what a fret redress and setup would cost.
£40-£80
I'm thinking of buying myself a VS6, probably to droptune (drop D of drop C#). Do you think the VS6 is a right choise for this? Or do you have any suggestions? Looking for a guitar between 200 and 350 euro's.
The VS6 would do that just fine but you'd need to add thicker strings and get it setup. Can you pick up a used one?
Thanks. At my local music store they have 2 new ones for sale, both at about 270 euros. Normally I like used ones more, but you gotta be lucky to get a good deal.
Does this guitar have neck dive at all?
It didn't for me
nice copyright bypass lol
More of a pedal comparison eh?
It is whatever you perceive it as
That was strange version of Back in black
Maybe it wasn't....
@@TheGuitarGeek some people just dont get it mate, copyright and things...
Good for you
Isaque E G Silva thanks!
I know that song! Is blacking back!!
'pack'n sack' 🤣
bro ahora entiendo porque sacaste la copia de back in black
COPYRIGHT
thats an amazing sound even though its a copy so
Have you tried the v120/30?
Yes. Great GREAT guitars.
TheGuitarGeek thank you :D
You're welcome!
Put a roller bridge on, improves the VS6 again
Good idea, I'll pass the tip on
Just....NO......a roller bridge sucks tone and why bother if you’re not gonna stick some kinda vibrato on there?
did it with my gibson cause i didnt like the fkin price
guit snobs think i`m crazy but i`m generally smiling all the time
lol (ending song )
Vintage sounded better to my ears
You should tell the people about their horrible one year warranty.
I am unaware of it. What’s the problem?
muito obrigado
Can I dare to say that these guitars are the real deal if you want the look of a Gibson and don't want to buy an Epiphone ?
Totally agree
got me...
I'm really not interested in hearing a demo with gain. Use clean tone!
Mats Peterson well as you asked so nicely... I'll go back in time and reshoot the video. Just for you. Clean tone is EXACTLY what people expect from a video about SGs
I want to hear the clan tone on every guitar....once you go into gain you’re just listening to how much your amp changes the True Tone of your guitar
Tune the bloody guitars
If you buy a new Gibson I guarantee you will need nut adjustment and fret dressing.
Sure you want to deal in absolutes?
@@TheGuitarGeek Having had four of them, Yes.
That is a fantastic guitar for a reasonable amount of money. Too bad the cites rules stops me from getting one. I have the vintage V100 GT and the V100 Iced Tea. They are really good guitars and I wish I could buy more from Vintage. I have 2 Epi Les Pauls and 3 Gibson Les Pauls and I would put Vintage closer to Gibson than Epiphone.
I think you're right there. I have a few Gibsons and they are really really close to the Vintage in some cases.
Absolutely, and considering the price I think Vintage is a lot more guitar for the money.
I agree up to a certain price point.
Guitar Player Backing Tracks cites rules?
Please tune up. Thanks...
Ok!
What was that 4:39?
That was a glass smashing due to falling off the desk from the vibrations
TheGuitarGeek nice little touch of drama.
Vintage sound a little bite fuzzy
it's not as clear as the Gibson.
Great idea. The vintage guitars are really well made
You look like buddy holly
I don't care what they say about us anyway
@@TheGuitarGeek I dont care about that
krumple4skin great username! Hahaha
Wtf this isn't back in black riff
Correct!
Ever heard of copyright?
looks good but ,the pickups are bad especially in high gain so much feedback you cant even touch it , not very nice to play with and the neck is not a fat one .for the beginners are not that bad
I've never had a pickup issue. Maybe you got a microphonic one
its not mine but its the same one i loud get the les paul ones
Got ya.thanks
Adriyan Slavchev to be fair.. thete are guitars test cost a grand and even more with the same size neck. Not necessarily a baseball neck make the guitar better.
Lots of pro players are gigging with Vintage brand guitars...so you are talking nonsense my friend. 🙄
La Vintage está desafinada
sounds horrible
Ummm keep practicing
I have a 2006 looks and feels different....but been solid ever since do not drop !!!
Alexander Wesner daily!
Alexander Wesner Gibson or the vintage?
Alexander Wesner he kinda play back in black wierd
Thanks man. Sense won in the end
Just picked the same guitar but non distressed....its a beast 1 year old and hardly played on. Even one year warrenty left on it for 50 Pct of the new price. Its brand new so to speak and very well build. Plays like a dream and i think its a benchmark for setting all my other guitar strings. Very happy with it.
Great! I still think they are great guitars
@@TheGuitarGeek ,i cleaned it and played it for the rest of the evening 😍
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