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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 11. 06. 2024
- Man, I'm kinda disappointed in the coop section for Withering Waves..
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ok but can improve
buggy
I think Wuwa co-op has alot to work on. The game still new so, personally I'm not really complaining because i think they'll improve it in the future
Co-op in wuwa isn't affected by ping at all.
You can still dodge, hit like any ordinary character.
All calculations are recorded client side so there's nothing to worry about.
It's pretty amazing.
In genshin...
Well, there are hit boxes that are better off not being mentioned during boss fights.
Your character also gets clunky and delayed movement can happen.
Let's not talk about the delayed dmg to enemies is horrid while not noticeable in Wuwa at all.
In few patches it will be great I hope, for now it's still better than genshin, genshin's coop is only for players with weaker characters to farm artifacts, let's be real there is nothing to enjoy about coop in genshin. For wuwa at least there is echo farming, but it still has to improve
oh boy I can imagine co-op players screaming at each other for having skill issue if Kuro ever decides to add Tactical hologram for co-op.
itd be more fun tho
I was a bit disappointed when it didn't allow me to co-op it. I do love soloing it of course and that's how I beat it anyways, but it'd be fun to do with friends too or even just match up with randoms
what skill issue are talking about. You can just swipe, well, if you can't, that is skill issue for you
â@@moskvin21415 lol me and my fellow whale try to beat memphis hologram 6 he still can't beat it easily thinking that even if he got a fully s6r5 jiyan it would be a walk in the park đđđ
he might beat it with a few days of practice but still its fun to make fun of him for not beating it as he thought it would be đđ
truly a skill issue moments ahahaha đđ
@@user-ke2pg6hi5s sure. Jiyan can 500k per ult while being c6. And you cannot get that damage being "skilled" or press the buttons right. Yeah cope bruh.
well wuwa is still new, and from what i've heard kuro actually listen to feedback. so coop with weekly bosses might be added in the future
I mean even genshin's first weekly boss can't be cooped. So I believe they will add coop in future with new bosses.
Idk why but I hate it when people say feedback. It just sounds weird to me and it feels like Iâm tasting something gross, but then when I actually say it, it sounds so satisfying and taste like cakeđ
Bro everyone says wuwa is new but it's not like they were hiding in hole or something they should have delivered better not to mention all translation errors.
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@@StillQiqiless Andrius weekly boss "Yup I don't exist"
You forgot a crucial thing: in genshin if the world owner doesn't take the rewards you all need to leave the domain and start again, while in wuwa also other players can propose to have another round so it takes only one other loading and no team reselection. We heavily felt the difference
Exactlyyy so if they run out of resin we don't have to start all over again, wuwa co op is better than genshin in the farming sense but they had to nerf it by not giving weekly boss co op lol
â@@windyp0d ima be honest with you it's easier to do bosses in genshin solo than coop and the weekly bosses in Wuwa are very easy to do if you have arms
Okay? You say this like people do that xD trying really hard to get a win for WW huh
@@kyero8724 whats this about did you take that personally? Just pointing out that this side of wuwa farming is more comfortable, while in genshin is pretty annoying. And people do that. Peace
@@simonironson8518 Personally? No, Just pointing out that you're pointing out something pointless that no one ever does
we can't find each other on the map lol
kinda sad
Then you can play hide and seek
you can..it's just that there's not an instant button to find him
â@@david_ace that'a exactlt what he meant
If there is problems better report it to them so they can fix it... I didn't had issues with co-op
@@david_ace oh they are still appear in the map? That's kinda sad
In case you don't know, there are 3 weekly bosses (calamity class) in 1.0 wuwa. You can coop the bell-born but not the other 2 because they're locked behind main story. Any new players can clear these 2 because the difficulty based on your world level.
You also get a badass "finisher" move on Scar if you have Rover on team, which not only looks cool but also deals a whole chunk of damage at one go, so not having co-op isn't really a concern for me.
â@@tatsumiuchiha5559the one where Rover stabs his sword in scar and pulls it like a lever?
The most annoying part of the coop for me is the fact that Wuwa doesnât have automatic tracker for any of the coop teammates like Genshin does. I have to drag the entire map to find my teammates.
It was like that for Genshin as well in the beginning
@@xBboyRewindx Yet Genshin is there for how many years now as that bad example, still Wuwa doesnt do it???????
â@@digadeh Wuwa is literally a new game, they would probably add it on the future.
@@3thr3al1st That is not even an excuse at all. It's not like they just came out from a womb without any prior knowledge. Genshin was there doing it for years. They would probably add it. Not because its a "new" game, but because people complain about it enough.
Genshin players reacting badly when a game that feels Genshin doesn't feel Genshin enoughâ@@digadeh
You miss the biggest part of wuwa co-op though. The main co-op is when you farm the echo and field boss,in the oepn world, not just in dungeon đ
Genshin has that too
@@LucindaLuciLu no
â@@LucindaLuciLu ?????
@SenhorOokami u can turn into animals in genshin aswell+fight with them one example is sorush and there's more coming in the future, in natlan
@@LucindaLuciLu U are telling me that u can farm, build and play with the monsters u fight in the map and the Farm can be done in coop? And when u ARE farming with your friend u can go after special monsters to have a challenge for a high reward weekly? Weird, i never play this in Genshin...maybe i have played another game
In wuwa, the enemies health do not increase when u do coop , unlike in genshin. So it really becomes 1v3. Thats why the coop finished in 20 sec.
I'm sure the use of that domain is on purpose too, Zhongli alone has trouble dealing with shields of golems, but people will do literally anything to put the two games against each other for whatever reason instead of enjoying both
Wuwa coop is good for farming echoes, each player fights a boss enemy or 1 player goes around in circles helping both 2 players.
Wait exactly how do WuWa coop works? Jundging by what you said, seems like if 1 player gets an echo then everyone else will also gets the same echo too?
Yep
@@averagemobileplayergfs7383 oh thats so cool! Thanks for the reply
@@pinkinglily6447 not just that, if you mine, I get the stuff as well
â@@pinkinglily6447 no, the echo drop still individual.
coop in genshin actually makes it harder than easier
And also funnier XD .
Ive seen my friend max lvl character coop with lower AR lvl player entering sumeru weekly boss Apep. The team cosist of 2 new 2 max player.
BUT...
But they both (the 2max lvl player Furina and Neuvillet) die first Hahahahahahahaha. Then the 2 newb, barbara and xiangling both lvl60 carry till the end . Hahahahahahahahaha. Who suppose to carry who!
â@@NeginoSora and the walk of shame of 2 max lvl player going for the rewards is funny
No if you know how to build its very easy a healer or a support and 3 dps easy peasy
@@LucindaLuciLu I think he meant that for extra people added in the world, the HP pool of enemies increases.
Reminder that Genshin also had 1 solo and 1 co op weekly boss available at 1.0 just like WuWa. Yall asking for a game that just came out a month ago to be on the same page of development as a game that has 4 years out there...
Sure, but Genshin had to make all these systems, Wuwa coppied every system in Genshin, from banners to gameplay to how weapons and character leveling is.
So we can't compare it to Genshin at launch, because Genshin already did 80% of the development for them, so they should have learnt from Genshins mistakes aswell.
If it wishes to stay relevant it needs to do better than when genshin started. That's how progress in the gaming industry works, my guy.
They had years to -copy- learn/observe everything hoyo did and improve upon them. That's how actual competitions should be. Be better than the competition so they improve on their own stuff as well. Healthy competition = players win.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn Genshin Impact is not the first gacha game to exist. Infact a lot of it is inspired from Zelda in the first place. Genshin is not the only gacha with domains either. They didn't conceptualize a lot of things that they implemented.
â@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mnoh I see genshin didn't copy anything at all from any other gacha game they did everything by themselves got it đ
@@fraserdab Genshin was inspired by other games, but the way their banners work, the way the artifacts work, the way you level and ascend characters and weapons, the way you level skills, all these things they created. They are fundamentally different than other Gachas.
There is no difference between Wuwa and Genshin, they straight up copy and pasted genshins systems, from UI, to banners, to shops, character ascension, weapon ascension, stamina system, skill leveling.
They straight up copied it, they didn't even try and disguise the fact that its the exact same, the onlt unique thing in the game is the echoes and even then they work exactly like artifacts but just has a skill tied to it.
Even the combat is identical to HI3rd which predates genshin by years.
There is a difference between being inspired by something, and straight up copying and pasting, Wuwa was not inspired, Mihoyo straight up built 90% of the game for them.
The reason i think there isnt a coop mode for weekly boss might due to the 2 calamity Scar and Dreamless have mostly single target atk, especially Scar, where almost all of his atk are single target, and then there some atk that just straight up put you in a cutscene making the weekly boss not fun in the coop mode
Guys. Please send feedback this to kuro games so they'll be aware.
Devs listened đ”đ±đđ
1:38 get gud? stop prentending this is hard đ€Ł
Personally, I think that bringing coop mode into weekly bosses in wuwa takes away the whole "skill" section of the game if you're just going to unga bunga. At that point, there's too many numbers and animations on the screen, too cluttered for the dodge and parry mechanics to even be relevant in a weekly boss fight.
Genshin boss fights in my memory and my impression of them is literally just a dps check and a memory check of "do you know what to do when the boss does this?"
Wuwa on the other hand is truly a test of skill especially when fighting enemies with an underleveled team (no more can you one tap mobs with one echo skill, you actually have to practice what you do when your combo breaks because you need to dodge or parry, it's not a one trick pony you're becoming, you're becoming a player who can adapt to different situations)
Wuwa is not really a test of skill when we talking about overworld enemies bosses and coop. The only test of skill mostly comes from holograms or tower, anything else itâs just another gatcha game where u destroy anything in the world with ease.
No point comparing genshin with Wuwa since gameâs still new, maybe we all wait for 6 months or so
But they already compare their reward, fast respon dev, and qol since day oneđ
â ââ @@erdinpro618because it is? We cant compare something a new game dont have to an old one. But rewards, qol and devs responds are what you can compare. Obviously wuwa gave more rewards and have more qol( not all yet but at least in exploration and they adding more in the next update, at least they said so) and devs in wuwa definitely responded faster than genshin. Do you remember the 1st anniversary of genshin? They didnt even respond until it was too late. Wuwa addressed the issues in around 5 days. Even the new announcement, the players complain that it is not fair, they posted another post about giving everyone rewards.
@@bambowr6576 nahh, They compare what they can compare. but, when the other side does the same thing, they always argue that it is still a new game even though before its release they have compared their gameplay
@@erdinpro618 because it is gameplay? Like what? Those things are stuff they can add in the future. Gameplay is the biggest difference?
@@erdinpro618 and if you want to compare those thing, compare 1.0 genshin with 1.0 wuwa. I dont need to say anything
I've never played wuwa, but it looks super fun. One more player for co-op would probably make it better though. :)
No, theyâre never going to add an additional player in co-op because in WuWa. We only have 3 characters in our party in any given time. Knowing them, theyâll keep it at 3 and thatâs ok with me.
If you are a genshin player, I would highly suggest you trying WuWa. I was skeptical at the beginning as a genshin player since day 1 but I loved the game and dont want to ever go back to Genshin
it's for filling up the party slot, Wuwa got 3 characters per party, because the game don't rely on elemental reaction, and instead relies more on combo and quick-swapping (swap cancel) characters to utilize Outro & Intro skills. it literally feels like you're bringing a whole 3 characters with the way the flow of combat goes
Yea Just don't, if the only game uve played is genshit, ur not gonna survive in this game.
Idk maybe ull enjoy it but u gotta actually play the game unlike that other game.
â@@darthvaperr4601why are u watching A GENSHIN VIDEO if u hate the game.
If they add voice chat people would be screaming at each other if hologram coop existed lmao.
To be fair, co-op in Wuthering Waves trivialize the combat a bit too much, because the enemies in 1.0 are obviously designed for solo players. They need to set up a proper balancing system for co-op before adding weekly bosses to the roster, imo. Or add more challenging bossfights for co-op.
They should put Coop in weekly boss but the boss deals 10 times damage đđŒ
and where is the diff? still not taking dmg and kill bosses even faster then you already do? except if your a bad player.
Well i bring my kokomi with her donut, everyone dies Except me. But what the fun part is everyone really give motivation and support for me like for +-10minđâ€
I do that too, spamming emoji spirit xD
You guys are the best part of this community. đKeep goingđ
Co op in Genshin is always going to struggle because characters rely on specific reactions and intricate rotations to deal dmg. You canât exactly deal dmg when other two characters are messing up your reactions. Wuwa is much more unga bunga and dmg is tied down to specific characters button smashing so co op is much more enjoyable.
Imagine comparing end game lvl 90 missions to level 60 missions...or just watch this video to see it live
Weekly Boss Domain in WuWa be like:
"LET ME SOLO HER"
So far I Love both games but I've been playing genshin ever since launch on PSN and wuwa since launch on Google Play just recently so that's a big difference in time lol. But hopefully Wuwa gets better optimization soon because I really HATE the lag that makes it almost unplayable...I kid you not most my fights involve me seeing almost none of the actual proper animations just a couple different frames of the animation and everything else is basically laggy single pieces of that one move the picture stayed on the longest..... But I won't quit playing just because it's got kinks to work out in the game. I actually haven't gotten to see anyone of the characters proper animations except watching it on CZcams like on here when someone else is playing it...đą Which is pretty sad.
you can literally troll in Co-Op by starting the domain and making the enemies attacking your AFK friends đ
There's a match option b4 entering a domain, and the new set domain has those statues with high def and shield. Unless you coop with some geo main, it will take 1min, otherwise it'll be over pretty fast.
Well technically genshin in 1.0 didn't have any weekly boss coop as well, divalin is solo and wolf is basically same as the turtle
That was 4 years ago not 2024, we can't be expected to go back in time
â@@MoHaMMaDMi-el1uyOf course they are going to compare 1.0 to 1.0 What do you mean go back in time? lol
@@iamjustice1995 lol you mean if a country wants to produce a new jet fighter they have to go all the way back to the first plane made of papers and sticks? Or should it be something comparable to new fighters to be even useful?
@@MoHaMMaDMi-el1uy The heck are you even talking about? Your logic is going off the rails. It's not that deep.
It's more like a white belt vs. white belt, who is now a black belt.
wdym not for people who want to enjoy co-op?
the reason I enter co op on wuwa is solely for the materials and nothing more. I'd rather spend 20s than 1 minute of stress with laggy players lmao
"want to enjoy co-op", they're referring to people who wants to have fun with other players. Not just the ones who co-op solely for the rewards.
U play Co-op for the rewards & booty
I play Co-op for fun & friendship
We are not the same.
I enjoy beating Raiden with 3 other players for 10 minutes
If I want the drop I just play alone.
that's the same thing in Genshin, the reason you do coop in genshin is to steal other people's mats, at least in Wuwa, the ores you mine are shared to the coop leader as well.
Also i dont love when we have to go all the way to collect rewards or restart domain in genshin, but in wuwa we just have to take like 5 steps and will restrat in the same small room so its not taking time.
"1 min per session in domain for end game players" is crazy considering if you do it alone it shouldnt take you more than 20 seconds lmao
"20 seconds for wuwa new players"
You're doing the lowest or 2nd lowest difficulty domains, even if your characters aren't fully and properly built, content at this level is going to be easy even alone
Asking for a co-op carry in these weekly bosses is an argument in bad faith.
These weekly bosses are easy asf. I too wished there was more co-op, but to use the argument of 'new players could need carry' is bad. A 10 year old playing on a lvl 40 4* could solo lvl 70 Dreamless easy lol
EDIT: nvm, this channel is just a genshin fanboy making another shitty vid. All your vids are Genshin lmao, now compare Wuwa combat to Genshin combat? or Exploration mechanics? Or pull rates and weapon banners? And price to top up per character? Hmmmm.....
I swear, people who can't beat these weekly bosses don't even know how to press more than 2 buttons.. Then they proceeed to blame it on the game's difficulty and want some ways of carrying ;d Why even play a game where you want to get carried on everything?
@@GTRaijin its probably gneshin players who are used playing the game with closed eyes with lvl1 weapons
@@GTRaijin you'd be surprised that majority of genshin players only play it for the story, exploration and the characters and most of them dont even touch the abyss. There's a reason why genshin never increase the difficulty, they obviously see the trends/completions and their data shows that. I think alot of people are expecting a different thing from genshin. It will never be a hardcore game, it never promised to be. It seems that the casual player understands it more than the hardcore gamers who spend too much money on OP characters they have no use for.
You don't need to stand in front of the domain for Genshin? what version are you playing?
the asswiping hoyo version
In terms of fighting really hard enemies together in co op, I think the really high level elite enemies scattered in the world comes close to what I experience in difficulty to fighting Genshin weekly bosses.
You can coop boss... The big turtle one in open area is a calamity class
Storm terror didnt have coop, i think they'll add the option eventually
Stormterror was hardcore at first it became very easy later, I don't think they'll add any co-op since it's so late now.
Storm terror is extremely easy not gonna lie. Even having several lower difficulty levels compared to other bosses
@@rushalias8511 At start that platform drained hp and without a Archer it was hard to land a hit when it's flying, if it entered full damage mode flying was also hard. Now just one hit kill.
@@gautamnaik8812 arleechino still cant mark her E on dvalin , i want them to fix that first.
@@user-zq5dh6jr8n Yeah they must correct it, but as I guessed they don't care about old bosses now
I just have one question regarding the weekly boss in WuWa
Where tf did Scar get that Sick ass echo?
Either they will add it in the future, or it's just very tricky to implement dodging and pairing when the boss has to target 3 different players at the same time. I'm thinking more of the first hypothesis.
I don't think most players even reached sol40 yet lol. I managed to coop match with someone once and they decline. Fair enough cuz the lower lvl domains are pretty easy even if I didn't lvl up my echos. I wish we can coop weekly bosses tho
after playing WuWa, genshin looks so childish
I'm probably putting wuwa in the back burner for now. Once I start, I'd be so off track with my schedule, I'd probably miss my next tasks lol. So I'm sticking with Genshin.
Co op is made for pokemon hunting with friends for now
I thought you would mention the echo farming of Wuwa instead of domains only that thing is making coop a very useful feature
Only the giant turtle can be done in multiplayer as weekly boss for now.
I think that the multiplayer mode is not great now though... But genshin was bad as well on that matter... More resource-sharing and interactions with the puzzles would be great... Also holograms and instances... Even if that does not count toward the reward count for the holograms that would be insanly fun to get killed together with someone.
Genshin 1.0 boss fight dont even have a co op , and WuWa is not even a month since release, plus WuWa coop is more fun when farming echoes
lol but you can with andrius except it's not a lobby weekly boss
@@shonehellsing784 And you can do the turtle weekly here as well so your point again is?
@@drekhunter that you can still do coop in weekly boss with no problem
@@shonehellsing784 And I'm telling you that the bell-borne a weekly in WW is also Co-op possible so it seems like there's no difference there so far.
@@drekhunter it's still a huge difference since GI is made older with an older game engine unlike wuwa unreal engine 4
it's always fun when that one "special" player adds pyro to the obvious hyperbloom team that everyone else decided to go with and kills the entire party...
oh my god this soundtrack brings so many memories
There was was no weekly co-op domain boss in Genshin 1.0 either until Childe.
When you realise that Andreas existed in 1.0...
Sure, but Genshin had to make all these systems, Wuwa coppied every system in Genshin, from banners to gameplay to how weapons and character leveling is.
So we can't compare it to Genshin at launch, because Genshin already did 80% of the development for them, so they should have learnt from Genshins mistakes aswell.
â@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mnand the suggestions are just what the players want for genshitđđđ
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn genshin didnt "make" the systems, and genshin copied climbing, gliding mechanics , art style, unlocking map with towers. all from breath of the wild.
@@Lemons658 they literally made all the systems like the banners, shops etc, tell me what other game has the exact same shop, banner, UI and more, you can't can you? and Wuwa straight copy and pasted everything.
And no, BOTW is a Wii game, it fundamentally controls and plays differently so Genshin was inspired by their climbing, BOTW and Genshins art styles aren't similar in anyway and towers predate BOTW by decades, ubisoft literally put these in games years before BOTW ever existed.
â@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn hoyoverse said "Breath of the Wild was one of our inspirations for creating Genshin Impact as an open-world action RPG." Also genshin didnt make the banner system, you can go all the way back to 2012 and look at puzzle and dragons. also others like Granblue Fantasy, Fate/Grand Order. And so what if botw is a wii game, genshin is on consoles too
Do you know u can edit ur hud in wuwa so u can play with four finger claw or more and this has changed my way of playing and improved how i play the game and before i couldn't dodge and parry properly now i dont miss one parry and i dodge most of the time and because i play using foir finger claw
yeah Claw is cracked in this game, glad Kuro thought that out
This is not a fair comparison; most people are not at SOL-6 or -7. So of course co-op will be super quick.
The fun part with Genshin is you can induce friendly fire on your teammates while doing the domain. Especially when an idiot decided to bring Bennett on a dendro domain (especially with Apep). đ
Just bring a pyro unto a domain with dendro or when someone who had formed a bloom team (especially if you have no strong healer). You will definitely see your fellow co-op members burning or being exploded to Celestia with you. đ đ
WuWa 3 weeks old vs genshin 4 yrs old
brah still genshin start it alone wuva looks like a copy paste and they alredy get these idea from genshin so still they cant achieve it still try copy paste hard its not a matter whether the game 4 years old and wuva is not that much old wuva is copied including the improvement and ideas most like genshin
@@MR_ROBOT6 and genshin copied breath of the wild thenđ€Ł lol cope hard mintpickers!
@@NotAHoyoSlave lol you really are wuva boy wuva wuva
â@NotAHoyoSlave never saw someone who played both and said they are similar
@@AhmedBabiker-sr8fl Go back 3 years ago....
If it takes 1 min for four people in the genshin domain then sadly you're not fully end game, I'm not endgame and me and my friend so two of us finish a domain in less then 40 sec
Edit: I've learned something new, thanks~
The enemies have less health with only 2 players instead of 4
@@OgZz73 that applies to artifact domains too? I just assumed it was only for overworld enemies and bosses
@@nevembra9850 yes i mean you can feel the difference when you switch from 2 player to 4 it takes alot longer to kill the bigger enemies they become hp sponges
@@OgZz73 bigger enemies in domains? You mean like the drakes compared to the treasure hunters?
@@nevembra9850 yes yes mitachurls, drakes, big rift wolves all of the above
This is what I was talking about with my friends, doing co-op runs in single player focused gacha games like WuWa or Genshin means you just want runs to end faster, WuWa does that nicely since your team damage isn't limited to what reactions your team can do.
Genshin - you beat things in seconds solo by just having the right comps for the reactions, doing co-op is more of a handicap and the only way you'd enjoy it is if you are goofing around with friends
WuWa - solo boss runs are decently challenging enough for many, and by doing co-op it just becomes a walk in the park which serves the purpose of co-op runs perfectly, and for the weekly bosses, the turtle is a weekly boss where co-op is possible since it's in the open world, but I think bosses within domains cannot be done in co-op for now
Co-op in both sucks.
Can't even interact with NPCs, can't do quests together, can't trade items, no co-op end game (Spiral Abyss/Tower of Adversity).
Hoping Kuro Games actually improves Co-op in the future, because Hoyoverse has had these problems for 4 years already so I assume they'll never touch Co-op.
It's kinda funny when I look up in wuthering waves reddit where they will always comments about genshin could never, starts to say that genshin is ded etc. Then, when I look into genshin reddit they don't even bother to talk about wuwa. Just minding their own business đ
Not disagreeing with you, just adding context; Genshin players have migrated to Wuthering Waves, brutally comparing a 4 year old game to a almost 1 month old game, flooding each comment section with Genshin topics, even in the discord. Jaded Genshin players start to yell back and new Genshin players/shills spread misinformation about WuWa.
So right now, Wuthering Waves' community consists of the people who were meant to leave Genshin's community
This is what I love about Genshin reddit. They have enough stuff to talk about in the game already, like the newest Archon quest for example.
genshin community are just filled with mentally unstable kids which are fun to watch. youâll never see any dramas with rdr and gta
genshin community are just filled with mentally unstable people that are fun to watch. you will never see any dramas about rdr and gta. itâs the result of genshin players finally finding out there are actually different games out there that you could enjoy playing other than genshin itself which subsequently results in a bunch of doomposting about their ex-favourite game. but yeah cope
sorry for venting i just had to
genshin community are just filled with young dramatic infants that are fun to watch. you will never see any dramas about rdr and gta. itâs the result of genshin players finally finding out there are actually different games out there that you could enjoy playing other than genshin itself which subsequently results in a bunch of doomposting about their ex-favourite game. but yeah cope
sorry for venting i just had to
I like the waiting in genshin more than immediately pick char in wuwa. Because in genshin you can flex that you have the signature weapon that so hard to get. And also you can run and do random things in front of strangers XD
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Yeah the pro of Genshin is show how much can You spend in a game... Hilarous...
well the whole point of Genshin's Co-Op is nothing more than looting other player's material and flex, that's all. the whole Co-op for domains and anything is really useless in end-game as Solo is way better option than having to wait every single player to ready their ass for only 1 minute ofâ actual fighting đ@@zainspierrot7075
Yep THE BEST THINT ABOUT it is Flexing. Lmmaaaooo the games so bad that that's the best thing u got, so sad. Yea maybe if honkai star rail got coop then it'll be as "good" that game.
Like why even bring that sht up, u know it's bad so why keep talking abt that game
@@zainspierrot7075 how about lucky? Are you never get lucky in genshin? How sad LMAO đ€Ł
I would like them to add the coop version of holograms (ie weekly bosses), but with additional team based mechanics (similar to mmos in that regards) with options to increase the difficulty settings for additional rewards. Maybe also make it four player based so more fun and chaos.
You shouldnât be struggling on weekly bosses. You need to be maxing out your ascension skills, your character and weapon levels. If u canât do it even after that, you should be trying to learn the bosses moves to dodge their attacks. Itâs fine if u die as long as u learn from it
I am not playing Wuwa and not planning to but I do believe that sometimes the struggle in co-op mode in genshin in domains or weekly boss makes the experience sweeter!đ
I literally dont care about coop, in Genshin I only use it when Im forced to, or some times when I want to farm for a plant or mineral faster to level up someone.
If you have friends co-op is fun, you can literally do nothing in the game and still laughin and gigglin with ur friends for no apparent reason lol
Iâll always play single player both games, I love being social in real life but hate coop modes in games or at least only like to play with someone else at fight games
Boss mode in WuWa, "Show me your skill kid. Level is just a number...FACE ME!!"
I prefer coop in genshin more because the monster will be tougher and thats the fun part. Most of the coop i enter in wuwa, players are overpowered and finish so fast that i donât even enjoy the combatđ
yeah, wuthering waves is fun in solo, i enjoy coop in genshin
...That's because we are all under leveled. Back when Genshin first came out, we were all destroying things in seconds because everybody had a low world level. Genshin's combat isn't fun for me anymore because now I kill everything too fast, hopefully Wuwa won't be the same at max levels.
@@richcast66 My experience is different. When I was in world LV 5, most of the ppl donât even know how to set up or having any good artifact, we use a lot of time back then to clear the domain or weekly boss (overworld is pretty easy). Domain monster is lvl 90 while most of our character is 80. And even now AR 56-60 coop in domain, we still use 30-1min to clear the mob unless there are whales which can clear less than 30 secs.
@@Teddy-wz9mw When did you start playing? It might also be that the domains themselves we had only had hillichurls and slimes for the most part. We didn't have tougher domains until Inazuma. Liyue and Mondstadt had simple domains.
@@richcast66 day 1 player here hehe.Its a tough day for low AR player actually. I remember farming the crimson,noblesse,maiden, mond book material, and weapon material domains and THEY ARE SUPER HARD because their hp bar is so high (eventhough they are just slime or abyss mage)
"shouldn't compare WuWa to genshin they're new" that's not an excuse. Dont let companies get away with that shit they'll start releasing unfinished games and hope their players would defend them by bribing and spoiling them with rewards.
I know they'll improve overtime, and I get it, they're a new company, but let's be real here. They clearly got inspired by genshin, so they already had a concept in mind for the mechanics, etc, etc. Yet they decided to follow genshin's short comings too. Like how story quests are more about NPCs... They could've done something different. The only good coming from this game are the rewards they spoil you with. Making the players blind of their shortcomings and be loyal to them.
how in the hell people takes '1 minute to kill 4 mobs?
Wuwa is definitely not newbie friendly and im down for it, we dont need a genshin copy. Thats exactly one reason i left genshin, fights were definitely getting boring from being too easy (both solo and coop), and with no pvp, what reason there is to get better mechanically in the game if you can just get people to carry you? Having coop for weekly bosses sounds fair as you only do those for the material/echoes. But at the same time i enjoyed that the game did launched with everything screaming "bro get gud". Whaling does help with dmg, but in high level content you die either way with 2 slaps so even if you whale you still need to learn how to fight properly.
Ah yes a game where you can one shot a boss with c6 vs a game where it takes skills even if you have s6.
Skill issue.
What skills tho? You can bullshit your way through with random characters just like in genshin, the only exception being probably tactical holograms and these 120lvl monkeys, everything else is pretty much easy if you build your charas at least partially
so it really might be a serious skill issue, sorry : /
â@@zeegony fr. I thought the bosses would be hard, but then i got jiyan to lvl40 and he just beat everyone less than a minute and idk how to dodge. Though yeah, that hologram and lvl100+ monster are hard to kill
@@missl7841 righttt and you really just give the character a half decent build and the rest is ez + havoc rover is really good so you don't even need the limited characters as for now hehe
Elden ring wannabe, that's so trash that u might as well play Elden ring if u want a challenge and an actual good game and not some piece of shit half cooked game that is WuWa đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Genshin>
No but all gacha games can spoil us in different ways
Genshin spoils us by pretty characters
Hsr and wuwa spoil us by a lot of pulls
@@St4y_mad-kids true but i still think genshins the best
â@@St4y_mad-kids genshin best game the rest are trash
@@GoubaXPaimon theres no way you are not sarcastic
@@GoubaXPaimon i prefer genshin too but that's a terrible statement lol
The only weekly boss you can coop is actually Bell borne boss (da turtle) so yea
I didn't use Co-Op in WuWa yet, but wouldn't it block a big mechanic that are Intro's and Outro's skills?
They do some nice DMG but most importantly they add buffs to character on field. You can't switch in co-op so it might be ok in casual content, but Weekly bosses are suppose to be a bit challenging so maybe that's the reason
Wuwa still better than Ded Impact đ
Nah...it's doing just fine.
yup Genshin is dying in my Country Indonesia
@@rushalias8511 Its a sinking ship nonetheless. I hope it dies so WuWa gets more players and more money so it can bring even better updates. Genshin is so outdated at this point, it looks like a cheap copy of WuWa when it shouldnt considering how much money does Hoyo make. For me it looks like they are using genshin to print money so they can invest it into other games, just like League of Legends for Riot Games. Maximizing profits while minimizing the effort. Genshin players are going to eat everything Hoyo serves them even if its poop, but I wont judge them, they are all like below 14 or have mental disabilities
@siema14123 my guy just because some people like something you don't does not mean they have disabilities.
Just because you don't enjoy it doesn't mean others can't. Many people enjoy it for what it is a fun game for them to play.
â@@siema14123 wuwa has bugs every hour lol..
Coop in Genshin is just to flex your characters, nothing more.
Brother no one trying to do co-op mode on the weekly bosses lmao
False Genshin coop for weekly boss,usually where is 3 cookie build phone players who die in 2 hits and healer who must carry entire fight solo for like 10 minutes
in genshin they cant coop in "a dragon dungeon weekly boss"
coop in wuwa being actual newbie helpers, while genshin just a dps flex đ knowing the enemies got lots of stats buff.
domains and bosses go so quickly in wuthering waves imo, it would be fun for a co-op tactical hologram
Horrible take
@@TophatBoar lol that's some strong language there no? i didn't say we shouldn't have a boss and domain co-op, just that i also want a tactical hologram one...
@@cloudyyskies9183 and that's a horrible take
@@TophatBoar lmao, okay then
I prefer solo mode , i hate it at genshin when people just quit or just get afk and i cannot restart. Its annoying
Its still low/mid level domain like on 70 lvl its easy to defeat them and those enemies are exiles the ones who are way too weak like hilichurl same like genshin lower level domain where enemies are preserved at lower lvl domain.There are some enemy that are quite tanky like the the chasm guardian this guy has hella hp even with 72/223 crit stat it takes at least 40sec to defeat even tho being as elite class echo.Maybe they will add more hard enemies at higher end level (80/90).
Genshin coop : difficult ahh gameplay
Wuthering waves coop : still easy as it was in solo
Maybe when most players get high rank in game they may add it as it will be too hard to complete alone
I think that the reason you can't do weekly bosses in co-op yet is because those bosses were created specifically for solo mode, with their special moves, combos and cutscenes. It might not be so seamless when trying to make it playable for co-op, but I also hope they add more co-op features in the future!
don't forget to add this on the actual WuWa survey đ
they should just make a different game mode that fully utilize the coop system.
I'm really fed up of comparing these two games. Just play and enjoy them. Each other has unique features, qol, gameplay and so on
I think the difficulty started to rise with arlecchino, but after the introduction of hyperbloom, coop has been pretty unga bunga as well, thereâs sm times where Iâve cooped and beaten Raiden without having her transform. I wanna say that the current weekly boss in wuwa you can coop feels somewhat like the childe weekly boss. I also hope Kuro puts out more coop related events and hard bosses into the game (I thought you could do holograms in coop!) An illusive depths that allowed us to coop and was more difficult would be great. While I do think the coop experience is better for domains in genshin, I also think it depends on the teams. Also tacet fields have a lot of waves and could take long depending on what team you bring, whereas genshin usually has 1, maybe 2 waves of enemies to beat. I am enjoying the overworld experience in wuwa more, but this is my opinion and it really depends on the person. Anyway, I hope genshin and wuwa end up doing more for coop because exploring the world and fighting enemies with a friend is always fun!
Honestly coop would really ruin the wuwa bosses as they are designed for more intriguing solo skilled gameplays. Where as in coop it would likely just turn into another mash every button thatâs off cool down game
Well, there's only one weekly boss that is available for co-op which is the Bell Bourne since you can just find it in open world sleeping on its denđ I personally think you don't even need to play co-op against that giant tortoise because, to me, it just seems like your average world bosses. But that boss surely brings me back to Tower of Fantasy Vibes when me and my crew does boss raids back then đ€Ł Such a nostalgic feeling haha
Now make exploration in Genshin vs Ww and combat in genshin vs Ww đ
Coop in WuWa: one mines ores, everyone gets the ore no matter where they are
Not a fair comparison Genshin players are maxed out and can take out dea dly foes. WuWu players are mostly at 60 and will get instant de ath with 1 misstep if the enemies are that powerful.
Having said that Kuro games are very generous so may be they will will listen to feedback in future, unlike Genshin Che p lots.
Me a soulsbourne fan: Why coop when you can dodge and parry? đż
Bro tbh WuWa is easy when u get a good understanding of the game
I wish there was more we could do exploration wise in coop Wuwa but overall Iâd say itâs definitely fine for 1.0
What I want to happen in coop in WuWa:
1. Additional hp for bosses
2. Weekly bosses coopable
3. Easier to locate players in map
4. Holograms that can be coopable (different from solo clears)
5. Guilds or raids and stuff
feel like they did not include it yet coz they want to let the players adapt first before doing real stuff coop
In WuWa, coop actually makes your farming faster, as it should be lol Idk why Genshin makes beefier enemies for coop domains that you might as well do it on your own.
Enemies became hp sponges in genshin which suck if you want help as a newbie but great for endgame players
Open world co op feels better in Wuwa.
don't forget to do turtle tennis in wuwa tho.