The New Champions League Format Explained

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    The Uefa Champions League is changing. In 2024/25 we will have a new look competition. It is being dubbed the “Swiss Model”.
    What is that? What will the Champions League look like? Who stands to benefit? More importantly, who stands to miss out?
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  • @prometheustv6558
    @prometheustv6558 Před 3 lety +7705

    UEFA: If it ain’t broke, fix it until it’s broken

    • @ajsgaming474
      @ajsgaming474 Před 3 lety +288

      They really trying anything to make sure no team outside the big leagues can do anything in Europe

    • @theletsplayer4921
      @theletsplayer4921 Před 3 lety +118

      @@ajsgaming474 they are corrupt as showen by city beating them in the cort of aberration for sport

    • @aniruddhmuley5592
      @aniruddhmuley5592 Před 3 lety +59

      this isn't the first time uefa are showing their money mindedness and won't be the last
      in the uel final in baku half the stadium was empty because they were reserved for 'special ticket holders' or something like that and they didn't turn up, while the supporters of the actual clubs were given 10k tickets each in a ground of more than 50k capacity easily

    • @tihorjar8997
      @tihorjar8997 Před 3 lety +21

      We should start subscribing to Asian Champions League

    • @edd0f
      @edd0f Před 3 lety +3

      The alternative is the superleague. Now which one do you prefer?

  • @calum8399
    @calum8399 Před 3 lety +5271

    It's ridiculous. Allowing 'big clubs' that underperform into the champions league undermines the integrity of the competition. Qualification needs to be based only on performance. As always, UEFA protect the interests of the wealthy clubs and care only about money.

    • @kankantona9070
      @kankantona9070 Před 3 lety +111

      Man utd will qualify to ucl forever (unless they are not top7)

    • @10Thomasc
      @10Thomasc Před 3 lety +175

      UEFA is kinda pressured by the big clubs to do this because they've been pushing for their own super league between themselves

    • @samizayn5666
      @samizayn5666 Před 3 lety +96

      Money, the most important and the worst thing in the world at the same time.

    • @Juan-n
      @Juan-n Před 3 lety +53

      @@10Thomasc they pushed for it and fifa said if you participate in in your banned from the world cup so that got shut down quickly

    • @warrioroffpeace3673
      @warrioroffpeace3673 Před 3 lety +145

      How do French get 4 teams?😂 While Netherlands get 1? Ajax raped Lille this season who ware first in France.😂😂😂 Not really fair.

  • @deib3325
    @deib3325 Před 3 lety +1071

    Friendly reminder that Porto, Benfica and Nottingham Forest have the same UCL titles than Agnelli's "Super Juventus"

    • @mgf909
      @mgf909 Před 3 lety +100

      Aston Villa too, somehow they beat Bayern in '82. Just hearing that nowadays sounds like a miracle.
      Edit: Aston has only 1 while the clubs David said have two

    • @PissG
      @PissG Před 3 lety +31

      @@mgf909 be careful. Bavarian Butthurt fans will tell (read: force you to believe) you The Villans were cheating.

    • @jt6404
      @jt6404 Před 3 lety +9

      How many of those were in the past 20 years?
      I'll give you Porto, but the other two have beeb left in the dust.

    • @PissG
      @PissG Před 3 lety +38

      @@jt6404 same with Juventus. 9 UCL final and 7 losses. their 2 UCL wins is from dodgy penalty and dopping

    • @MrJimboCross
      @MrJimboCross Před 3 lety +8

      @@mgf909 Villa have one title not two. Don't get it twisted mate

  • @filippobernini8349
    @filippobernini8349 Před 3 lety +1243

    Agnelli: "My ideal Champions League."
    Still Agnelli: "Let's do a Super League."

    • @silloweet
      @silloweet Před 3 lety +7

      T3rrori$ts running our game

    • @azlifestyle5316
      @azlifestyle5316 Před 3 lety +4

      Seems like it was a trick

    • @bbob70
      @bbob70 Před 3 lety +35

      The Super League was a trick to make people more receptive to these awful reforms in the Champions League. People must stop watching European football.

    • @kwewee
      @kwewee Před 3 lety +2

      @@bbob70 if you heard Perez's interview. You could hear that he was also taking shots at UEFA. But the way he responded was bad

    • @ffel91
      @ffel91 Před 3 lety

      @@bbob70 then what should we watch? J-league? Europe football is way more entertaining and faster in terms of games, why should we watch a worse league?

  • @fedb9131
    @fedb9131 Před 3 lety +2844

    agnelli destroying champions league like he's destroying Juventus. I appreciate the consistency

    • @ksligh4893
      @ksligh4893 Před 3 lety +58

      If 9 league titles in a row is destroying Juventus then you are beyond delusional.

    • @sechabatheletsane9784
      @sechabatheletsane9784 Před 3 lety +229

      @@ksligh4893 league titles aren't a good indicator of progress in a league that has clubs that make nowhere near as much money as Juventus to be competitive.

    • @McBigP13
      @McBigP13 Před 3 lety +7

      Agnelli has made juve the too club in Italy. I don't know how 9 titles in a row making Juventus trash. You're probably a Ronaldo fan. 🤣

    • @abhijitpadhi625
      @abhijitpadhi625 Před 3 lety +60

      @@ksligh4893 It's not about the success. It's about agnelli's attitude towards the game. It's just a business for him. That's why he doesn't want teams like Lazio and Atalanta and Porto and Lyon and these kinds of teams to go to the knockouts because its not good for the viewers. Bro the guy is a cancer to the game.

    • @kevinhart8609
      @kevinhart8609 Před 3 lety +13

      Juventus are just trash just like agnelli. Buying Ronaldo, changing their batch changing their stadium but still can't compete in Europe

  • @homosapien5156
    @homosapien5156 Před 3 lety +3266

    The historic performance aspect is troubling.

    • @RNJK-youtube
      @RNJK-youtube Před 3 lety +161

      Yes this. It isn’t fair

    • @japhethhammond8743
      @japhethhammond8743 Před 3 lety +244

      Yeah I fear for exciting team like leipzig and atalanta

    • @jorisfries7595
      @jorisfries7595 Před 3 lety +94

      This whole system us troubling

    • @diamondjozu2424
      @diamondjozu2424 Před 3 lety +324

      Small clubs will have little chance to become big clubs where as big clubs are going to stay big clubs even if they are shit.

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety +5

      @@diamondjozu2424 🤣

  • @siljalaine
    @siljalaine Před 3 lety +551

    And UEFA claims that Europa super league is only about money

    • @PaddyPowerofficial
      @PaddyPowerofficial Před 3 lety +65

      Its because uefa were excluded in the money making scheme

    • @ezekielnduli5181
      @ezekielnduli5181 Před 3 lety +29

      It's quite hypocritical for UEFA to take a stand against the Super League when they are making their own plans to fill their pockets.

    • @haydenlewis8450
      @haydenlewis8450 Před 3 lety +7

      Uefa is just as corrupt. They do horrible shit all the time. Trying to squeeze every last dollar out of everyone

    • @siljalaine
      @siljalaine Před 3 lety +3

      @Vici0us true.
      But still, UEFA have 4 tournaments and will fight to the very end to stop any other tournament.
      Like communism.
      And clubs want to have an steady income.
      Because no matter what, all clubs are business.
      And all business are about money.

    • @raymondgideon6295
      @raymondgideon6295 Před 3 lety +1

      You realise most of the money from uefa's "greed" goes to the same big clubs that want to break away so who is greedy

  • @SunsetSheen
    @SunsetSheen Před 3 lety +684

    Uefa: “the super league is driven by greed”
    Also Uefa: “here’s an overly complicated 36 team ucl format where everyone and their mother gets in bc this is purely a money grab”

    • @metrofilmer8894
      @metrofilmer8894 Před 3 lety +7

      Ikr. The super league was largely a reaction to this announcement

    • @sdm3032
      @sdm3032 Před 3 lety +14

      @@metrofilmer8894 This new UCL format is the same format as the super league 🤣🤣 I heard that UCL is going to be Another superbowl

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 Před 2 lety

      With the introduce of Super League, the Swiss model system is temporarily suspended until further note.

    • @leonbrooke5587
      @leonbrooke5587 Před 2 lety +1

      not quite everyone though - just those who are already rich. that's how they'll select those other spots. did Arsenal fail to qualify? or Manchester United? oh well, those clubs have a huge following, they'll make UEFA loads of money, let them in anyway

    • @ohh2752
      @ohh2752 Před 2 lety

      Dude every league strives to make more money. They'd be fired if they didn't. lol

  • @Hakuu_A19
    @Hakuu_A19 Před 3 lety +2410

    I will never understand the need to change something that was never broken

    • @BarneyLikesKids
      @BarneyLikesKids Před 3 lety +195

      Simple, extra cash

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +128

      Pure greed that’s why.

    • @vladescu3g
      @vladescu3g Před 3 lety +24

      Getting excited for Champions League and going home after few games in the group stage is not perfect

    • @Jamie-kv9eg
      @Jamie-kv9eg Před 3 lety +135

      @@vladescu3g Listen mate rangers stopped 10 in a row. That’s all that matters. 55 league titles the most successful club in the world.

    • @DanDAlittleMan
      @DanDAlittleMan Před 3 lety

      @@Jamie-kv9eg yh

  • @thegourmetgorilla9739
    @thegourmetgorilla9739 Před 3 lety +1482

    They’re only doing this to stop ‘shocks’ from happening because they want RM v juve rather than Ajax v Porto

    • @willembuysman5217
      @willembuysman5217 Před 3 lety +153

      Absolute disgrace

    • @control2XS
      @control2XS Před 3 lety +361

      Exactly this.
      They're killing the "dream" of football, because underdogs don't sell tickets. Doesn't matter how shit they have been, Barcelona or Madrid will always sell more tickets.
      Hate that "underperforming team" qualification spot too. If you underperform, you shouldnt be in the CHAMPIONS league.
      Imagine Villa for instance, having a dream season and finishing 6th, only to have a European place taken away because ManU finish 7th and get to be in the Champions League anyway...

    • @McDonaldsWiFiHashiriya
      @McDonaldsWiFiHashiriya Před 3 lety +19

      why're you spamming the man u comment everywhere mate? they qualified fair and square to the UCL last season, and are second in the PL this season. If anything, worry about teams like arsenal who've had absolutely 0 presence in the UCL for a decade but are still gonna qualify anyways because they're a 'former great'

    • @willembuysman5217
      @willembuysman5217 Před 3 lety +46

      @@McDonaldsWiFiHashiriya its based over the last 5 seasons

    • @edvin34
      @edvin34 Před 3 lety +28

      @@McDonaldsWiFiHashiriya they are a historic team that would get that place 10/10 times because the generate a lot of revenue

  • @selcukmilne2071
    @selcukmilne2071 Před 3 lety +377

    UEFA: "We dont want any Eastern European, Balkan or even underdog top five league teams in CL. We want the biggest ones to make more money."

    • @gustavassarssongutierrez2516
      @gustavassarssongutierrez2516 Před 3 lety +6

      They all suck

    • @idkk6
      @idkk6 Před 3 lety +27

      what u mean balkan clubs have won the ucl/european cup before they have history like crvena zvezda and fcsb won it they should give hope to small clubs who want to play in the ucl

    • @gustavassarssongutierrez2516
      @gustavassarssongutierrez2516 Před 3 lety +8

      @@idkk6 30 years ago, how relevant...

    • @idkk6
      @idkk6 Před 3 lety +27

      apoel in 2012 reached the ucl quarter final so u think that sucks remeber apoel is a cypriot club from cyprus

    • @petershortland478
      @petershortland478 Před 3 lety +23

      @@gustavassarssongutierrez2516 who cares if they suck football is for everyone

  • @VikasYadav-wd9yw
    @VikasYadav-wd9yw Před 3 lety +431

    You don't know how good it is to see, Porto beating Juventus and Ajax booting real Madrid, they just want to spoil that fun.

    • @MAT-nu6kx
      @MAT-nu6kx Před 3 lety +4

      the fun that happens once in a decade

    • @mike48412
      @mike48412 Před 3 lety +34

      @@MAT-nu6kx it happens almost every season, but only by a different club each time. This year porto, last year lyon and atalanta, before that ajax, etc.

    • @devack3889
      @devack3889 Před 3 lety

      Nah I dont find It fun, any of those teams won a champions in the last decade? Ofc I know ajax (4) porto (2) but meh I dont care about small teams

    • @andypandy1114
      @andypandy1114 Před 3 lety +22

      @@devack3889 ajax are not a small club

    • @VikasYadav-wd9yw
      @VikasYadav-wd9yw Před 3 lety +16

      @@devack3889 where were man united before sir Alex?

  • @troygrindley3793
    @troygrindley3793 Před 3 lety +2059

    It’s the ‘more games for the fans’ ploy to increase the revenue and commerciality. The typical type of thing I expect in football these days. Absolute disgrace.

    • @uncreative5766
      @uncreative5766 Před 3 lety +41

      It's a shame to see it happen in the game of soccer/football. Here in the US, the NFL did the same thing with Thursday Night Football. They did that whole, "More games during the week!" spiel that Agnelli is promoting now. If the NFL is any indication, then the on-field product in the Champions League will diminish, and maybe TV viewership ratings will drop massively.

    • @choncha23
      @choncha23 Před 3 lety +23

      @@uncreative5766 NFL ratings dropped because politics were injected into the platform.

    • @bruhmoment-wq5cy
      @bruhmoment-wq5cy Před 3 lety +13

      @@uncreative5766 the NFL's ratings dropped because politics that weren't needed were put into the platform.

    • @uncreative5766
      @uncreative5766 Před 3 lety +8

      @@choncha23 no it wasn't. I blame so many different rules limiting contact from a defensive player on a quarterback, flags on group celebrations, flags on touchdown celebrations, widespread awareness of concussions and CTE, declining youth participation, and fatigue. Football in America is a five day work week. Thursday is NFL, Fridays are for high school, Saturday college, and then Sunday and Monday cap it all off with more NFL.

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety +4

      @@uncreative5766 NFL watched by mainly Americans. Football the Global Game🤣

  • @jaskaransingh3627
    @jaskaransingh3627 Před 3 lety +2939

    Less frequent encounters of top clubs like Barca vs Bayern or Juve vs Real, etc. makes them special in the first place.

    • @runi5413
      @runi5413 Před 3 lety +210

      Yeah, not to mention the "Tottenham vs Chelsea" or "Barca vs Real" types of domestic match ups which will become even _more_ frequent in this system.
      There were *four* English teams in the CL quarter finals in 2019..., how on Earth is that exciting for football fans?

    • @manaz2781
      @manaz2781 Před 3 lety +4

      Exactly!!

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety +16

      @@runi5413 The premier league teams shouldnt play then 🤣

    • @runi5413
      @runi5413 Před 3 lety +43

      @@wizzer4385 Yes! And Bayern has to start every game with 10 men on the pitch :)

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety +8

      @@runi5413 we should cancel the CL have none 🤣

  • @jamesflynn6788
    @jamesflynn6788 Před 3 lety +382

    Fans: can we introduce better VAR
    UEFA: ok sounds good, so there’s going to be a 36 tier league playoff with fixtures based on historic performances

  • @chelseaarjun
    @chelseaarjun Před 3 lety +113

    Anyone remember Deportivo coming back from 4-1 down in first leg against AC Milan to win the second leg 4-0 and go through? That was much amazing night of football! One that I will remember forever. Although these kinds of upsets are rare, I guess these money mongers executives of big clubs wants to make sure such nights never happen.

    • @andrius11
      @andrius11 Před rokem +5

      I remember. Super Depor. Wish they return to La liga again and would be competitive like old times.

    • @paoloparziano6254
      @paoloparziano6254 Před rokem

      Long term result of that: Depo bankrupted….it’s a matter of balance between sport and business….trouble is, these big clubs behave more corporate-like, which means they care about Financial sustainability and they can make their weight felt through the respective fan bases

  • @EmpireOfTheBarnacle
    @EmpireOfTheBarnacle Před 3 lety +1167

    There will be actual members of UEFA watching this to understand what the hell is going on

  • @sugamgautam4318
    @sugamgautam4318 Před 3 lety +715

    So 2023-24 season will be the final season of me watching the Champions League. Absolute abomination

    • @daniel69
      @daniel69 Před 3 lety +9

      Wow a very stark comment there sugam

    • @sugamgautam4318
      @sugamgautam4318 Před 3 lety +13

      @@EliteBadFrog I have quit watching football from 16-17 to 18-19 so it's not a big deal. But yeah maybe I would start watching by completely contradicting my comment you never know

    • @hitnailhalfway2485
      @hitnailhalfway2485 Před 3 lety +35

      wow what a loss to the football world. how will those players ever play knowing that you won't e watching them

    • @sebblackmore3697
      @sebblackmore3697 Před 3 lety +21

      Sugam is correct. This keeps the already richest European clubs from dropping out of UEFA's most prestigious club tournament and helps them hold their power over their rivals domestically and abroad. Next up UEFA and the TV companies organise a PPV subscription/streaming model and pray new Messi's + Ronaldo's come through and promote it accordingly. It also diminishes the Europa League again since its rebrand from the UEFA Cup, as it is already seen as inferior. The EL will probably fuse into this competition and it will become larger down the line. Leicester's, Porto's, Atalanta's, Celtic +Rangers etc will have little chance to progress to the knockouts now and top established sides will save their best 11's for this competition. The Juve owner better hope he finds the new BBBC defence soon if he wants to win this revamped version!

    • @BoBch97
      @BoBch97 Před 3 lety +24

      More and more of us should do the same... In order to stop these constant changes by UEFA and FIFA, which always benefit the richest... Football is the game of the people and we should take it back!!

  • @espben360
    @espben360 Před 3 lety +186

    Gonna miss shakhtar dontesk in the champions league, or olympiacos, or dinamo zagrab, or Slavia prauge, or young boys, or basel, or RB Salzburg. Imagine if it wasn't for UCL haland probably still playing in austria

    • @itsallgood8347
      @itsallgood8347 Před 3 lety +49

      Tottenham Vs Basel years back, in the Europa League. I remember thinking who the heck is this guy annihilating us? Do not let him leave the stadium without signing him! It was Mo Salah.

    • @tebogolebepe4990
      @tebogolebepe4990 Před 3 lety +3

      @@itsallgood8347 remember that

    • @gigglemaniarunninwild2207
      @gigglemaniarunninwild2207 Před 2 lety

      Thats stupid, all those teams will still be able to qualify and there will still be an automatic place for the Russian league winners, plus they will now get to play at least 10 games! Which is more than the boring group version of just playing the same 3 teams home and away, Haaland would still have gotten noticed, true talent always rises to the top, you don’t think anyone would have noticed how good he was because the austrian champs got 10 games in the champions league instead of 6? Your comment is ridiculous and just brainless whinging

    • @gigglemaniarunninwild2207
      @gigglemaniarunninwild2207 Před 2 lety +2

      Why wouldn’t olympiacos, zagreb, basel, etc not be in this competition?? Theres nothing about these leagues winners being excluded....infact they are adding more teams to the competition

    • @awesome1ru
      @awesome1ru Před rokem +5

      @@gigglemaniarunninwild2207 but the top 5 leagues are getting all the spots

  • @anesumukura7312
    @anesumukura7312 Před 3 lety +40

    To be honest I’m against the whole super league but at the same time I don’t like what uefa is doing. The champions league is great as it is. both uefa and the super league are just trying to make more money

  • @abhijitpadhi625
    @abhijitpadhi625 Před 3 lety +719

    Agnelli is like the most greediest chairman ever. That guy once was saying how Atalanta should never be allowed to play in the Champions League after "just one good season".

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 Před 3 lety +20

      That guy will desperately wwnt Arsenal back despite cant finish top 4 in past 4 seasons.
      But he will make up stories about big club as long as he got their fans.

    • @armanamin4480
      @armanamin4480 Před 3 lety +1

      @Matteo Stoppelli source trust me bro

  • @varunmalavan5926
    @varunmalavan5926 Před 3 lety +1590

    The whole point of UCL nights is to see big teams play rarely to make it special like a new years event....to see them play once in 2 weeks would make it normal and boring...it loses the big game effect on it

    • @andrecarvalho1339
      @andrecarvalho1339 Před 3 lety +81

      Exactly and the fact that teams from small countries like Ajax can knockout big teams like Real is going to be more difficult
      It’s going to become a private league between UK Germany France Italy and Spain. There would be a sweet irony if Portugal could overtake the french league

    • @karsten7566
      @karsten7566 Před 3 lety +27

      @@andrecarvalho1339 Portuguese league 🤝 Ajax (Dutch league)
      Trying to break apart the top 5 leagues and get rid of Ligue 1

    • @user-lo5nx5qr1y
      @user-lo5nx5qr1y Před 3 lety +15

      Not Necessarily true. Look at the PL for exemple the Manchester derby or man u vs liverpol always exciting no metter how many times they face

    • @AKAtAGG
      @AKAtAGG Před 3 lety

      could not agree more. the only reason it's an event is because it doesn't happen all the time. el Classico every week? old firm derby every week? boring, move on.

    • @LeoDragon34
      @LeoDragon34 Před 3 lety +4

      Correct. And hey presto, at a stroke, UEFA has destroyed the magic, or what remains, of the CL. Masterly.

  • @iurietivladut7607
    @iurietivladut7607 Před 3 lety +39

    After seeing this video...i KIND OF understand Perez's reasons why he wanted the super league..

    • @J040PL7
      @J040PL7 Před 3 lety +7

      UEFA wants to add even more teams no one heard about lol

  • @Smarahdbxl
    @Smarahdbxl Před 3 lety +134

    This didn't age well haha Agnelli: "My ideal Champions League"

    • @PissG
      @PissG Před 3 lety

      That clown really wanted to see Rubentus winning treble. Instead, he got the axe. 😂

    • @SmilingNinja
      @SmilingNinja Před 3 lety

      And it's only been 2 weeks!

  • @sanddw7609
    @sanddw7609 Před 3 lety +271

    Reason people tune in for games like City-Bayern or Psg-Barca is cause they are so rare. The moment you make it so its every week, and there is so little to play for, even these games will have low viewership.

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 Před 3 lety +40

      I don’t think big European clashes will ever have low viewership but it will make it less special

    • @osiand9328
      @osiand9328 Před 3 lety +7

      But the City-Bayern game you speak of might never happen, and we could miss out on seeing two of the best current teams playing each other. This goes for so many other combinations of great teams throughout the decades that have simply never played each other in a competitive game. This is because big games happen very infrequently in the champions league as it is right now

    • @JayTechZM
      @JayTechZM Před 3 lety +36

      @@osiand9328 and it should stay that way. In 2011 when we had 6 classics in two weeks it got really old really quick. The uniqueness of these fixtures is what adds to the allure of the competition.

    • @osiand9328
      @osiand9328 Před 3 lety +2

      @@JayTechZM I still disagree, I would much rather see more big teams playing each other

    • @msgpatient7850
      @msgpatient7850 Před 3 lety +15

      @@osiand9328 having those matches on a regular basis would make it boring.

  • @alexanderarden2152
    @alexanderarden2152 Před 3 lety +352

    32 teams is literally perfect for knockout tournaments. It has the perfect progression. I don't understand why UEFA wants to mess with this (same with FIFA and the WC). I will most likely start to lose interest in the CL now ; /

    • @kebabtank
      @kebabtank Před 3 lety +29

      Money. Money is the answer.

    • @vinigarr801
      @vinigarr801 Před 3 lety +2

      🤑🤑🤑

    • @squirrelhallowino29
      @squirrelhallowino29 Před 3 lety +5

      Perfect because of some random scale? If it's a league and 16 qualify nothing will change, expect having more high level football for us to watch. Which by turn will undoubtly improve the next generations of footballers. This won't be big enough to make a gigantic change in euro football, but hopefully improve the overrall skill of everyone with time.

    • @waah5901
      @waah5901 Před 3 lety +9

      @@squirrelhallowino29 the amount of fixture congestion, player injuries, and costs for travelling fans will skyrocket. There is no need to do this for any reason outside of financial gain for those in charge.

    • @senthilr1058
      @senthilr1058 Před 3 lety

      I think World Cup deserves expansion as more countries are developing quickly

  • @2023lm
    @2023lm Před 3 lety +85

    More games?!?! Bro these players have human legs....

    • @J040PL7
      @J040PL7 Před 3 lety +15

      each sweat drop is a million dollars in the bank for UEFA $$$$$$$$

    • @sdm3032
      @sdm3032 Před 3 lety

      I guess the format will be change to year..First they play domestic leagues and cup..After it over they play UCL league game till final stage..There wont be any UCL games in middle of week..

    • @digitalfootballer9032
      @digitalfootballer9032 Před 2 lety +8

      Hence why teams like Liverpool field a side full of 16 and 17 year olds in the FA cup and basically just throw that competition away, so they can rest their starters for the glut of other fixtures they have to participate in. What this ends up doing is watering down the domestic cup competitions in the bigger leagues.

    • @stefanhaas2871
      @stefanhaas2871 Před 2 lety

      @@digitalfootballer9032 this is true. Domestic cups would be irrelevant for big teams.

  • @samuelpereira3256
    @samuelpereira3256 Před 3 lety +37

    It sucks ... they are trying to get them to give up on the superleague. This format would be much easier for the "big ones" and harder for the under dogs like Porto, Ajax, Lyon, Monaco etc.
    The football magic is ending because out of nowhere some oil owners are seeing who has the biggest "dick". How many champions did Man City really win? what did the chelsea that bought 250 million in players do much better than Porto? Where is Juventus that spends more money on a player than the entire Porto team and are eliminated by them?

    • @J_x2
      @J_x2 Před 3 lety

      This format is just like the nba playoffs.. I like it and the underdogs still have a chance of beating one of the big ones

    • @vipulkonnur5120
      @vipulkonnur5120 Před 2 lety

      i mean chelsea won the cl but yea you're right

  • @dvoob
    @dvoob Před 3 lety +484

    Also wish you would have touched on how this format will make it even more difficult for non-powerhouse sides to make it to the knockouts.

    • @filipzulec4140
      @filipzulec4140 Před 3 lety +57

      Yeah, I think that's the whole point of this new system.

    • @hansdiese3139
      @hansdiese3139 Před 3 lety +36

      slowly but surely tifo falls in the dilemma of being a top tier football channel on yt and therefore seemingly less likely to be really critical sadly
      but let's get to the milli i guess..

    • @fewik8567
      @fewik8567 Před 3 lety +2

      It would give more experience to those clubs, but also a chance to come back, in the champions league only team form really matters, the level of play is relatively consistent throughout the competition where most teams are at a pretty similar level, it's just their form that wins or losses them the game

    • @hansdiese3139
      @hansdiese3139 Před 3 lety +4

      @@fewik8567 at this point just do the super league and fuck the cl in my opinion

    • @sakshamsharma5429
      @sakshamsharma5429 Před 3 lety +12

      @@hansdiese3139 if anything, it seems like a super league in guise. Bigger clubs have a high likely chance to qualify than minnows

  • @GregorySpikeMD
    @GregorySpikeMD Před 3 lety +349

    This whole competitive model is built around historically well-performing clubs and it should end. Competition should be about how good you are right now, not how good you were 5 years ago. It's against everything that sports stands for.

    • @MrWhitmen1981
      @MrWhitmen1981 Před 3 lety

      Ok but the top sides in Eastern Europe would get relegated in the premier league.

    • @GregorySpikeMD
      @GregorySpikeMD Před 3 lety +35

      @@MrWhitmen1981 Well, then let them compete fairly and we'll see. I don't see how that is an argument to let bloody Arsenal or Tottenham into a fixed competition...

    • @Galloway8786
      @Galloway8786 Před 3 lety +25

      @@MrWhitmen1981 But this is a self fulfilling prophecy. The big leagues get far more access to the top competition, which means that they get far more money, which means that they hoover up all the best talent, which means that they get the best results and the cycle repeats. When the European Cup was a sporting tournament and not a corporate networking event the difference between European leagues was far smaller.

    • @saikomac8626
      @saikomac8626 Před 3 lety +19

      If the new format would have been implemented now, Spurs and Arsenal would get Champions League spots and West Ham would get no European football despite out performing them in the Premier League. How is that fair ?

    • @alexkfridges
      @alexkfridges Před 2 lety +6

      powerful people solidifying their power, as usual mate.

  • @MisterFreak579
    @MisterFreak579 Před rokem +18

    I would keep the traditional format people have been used to and since they want more teams and more matches, I would additionally add one more team in each group stage which means 5 teams in each group which would guarantee at least 8 matches for each team on every group, the first two 2 on each group would proceed to the next round of the 16, the 3rd team would continue in the Europa League, the 4th would continue in the conference league and the 5th or bottom last would go home ending their competition.
    This would finally or hopefully solve their greed for more money through more games meaning 16 more games would be added as a result of a fifth team in each group and in total there would be 40 teams in the Champions League.

    • @siphemanana2551
      @siphemanana2551 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I actually proposed the exact same idea lol. It's not perfect but it's way better than what UEFA suggests.

    • @MisterFreak579
      @MisterFreak579 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@siphemanana2551 Yes it would actually be better than their "Swiss Model" Although I don't think that they will change their mind they will probably stick with the new one regardless of what we think about it.

    • @n-zedorai6613
      @n-zedorai6613 Před 6 měsíci

      Imo, UCL should be held with 40 teams by 8 groups of 5. Where each team will play with groupmates once which means 2 home + 2 away matches.
      After that, 8 group winners gets a bye to Round of 16. And the 2nd and 3rd placed teams will play an cross-group playoff round which the runners up teams will host. 8 winners from that will move to RO16. Then all matches will be two legged except final.
      In that case,
      Total number of match: 117 (previously it was 125)
      Maximum match/team: 12
      (previously it was 13)
      But UEFA wont apply mine idea that coz they will lose some money🙂

  • @mrmeeseeks2534
    @mrmeeseeks2534 Před 3 lety +14

    I love how this was 2 weeks ago but no one cared until now

  • @ifkensen_3304
    @ifkensen_3304 Před 3 lety +1443

    This format looks like a diet version of the super league that UEFA desperately wants.

    • @danielsalas3394
      @danielsalas3394 Před 3 lety +87

      UEFA doesn't want the super league, they're super against it actually, but they have to give up to the big clubs demands or else these clubs will go and form their beloved super league and ruin football forever, I don't love this new format but if that's what it takes to prevent the death of national leagues, so be it

    • @TiagoSilvaESC
      @TiagoSilvaESC Před 3 lety +42

      @@danielsalas3394 i heard FIFA threatened those countries, if they made thr Super League then Fifa would ban them from the World Cup but oh well

    • @faustoflores3334
      @faustoflores3334 Před 3 lety +11

      @@TiagoSilvaESC they ban the players, not the whole nation

    • @md-io4tb
      @md-io4tb Před 3 lety +30

      @@danielsalas3394 So they shall let them do and see what happens. I believe it will get boring to see Man City vs Bayern and Barça vs Real every month.

    • @danielsalas3394
      @danielsalas3394 Před 3 lety +8

      @@md-io4tb agree, big clubs will eventually find out that their greed will be their ruin, but let them do their thing while they can

  • @vismong102
    @vismong102 Před 3 lety +824

    “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” let’s not tarnish how good this competition is.. and all this talk about selling the last 30 mins of matches is ridiculous..

    • @opinionatortv6457
      @opinionatortv6457 Před 3 lety +114

      Exactly, the tournament is perfect as it is. Great entertainment, great drama and a great competition. When greed gets involved in football, the soul of the game is lost

    • @christianopulinaldo8319
      @christianopulinaldo8319 Před 3 lety +5

      8-2

    • @subutaynoyan5372
      @subutaynoyan5372 Před 3 lety +7

      I think the champions league is getting a draught in recent years though. So many times I see a boring game because everybody is just thinking about the group games in general.

    • @vismong102
      @vismong102 Před 3 lety +47

      @@christianopulinaldo8319 yeh great addition to the conversation mate.. you just got thrashed 5-2 by the 19th team..

    • @frenchg0rilla
      @frenchg0rilla Před 3 lety +7

      Over the past 5 years the Champions league has been quite boring.

  • @joebenson8196
    @joebenson8196 Před 3 lety +49

    lmaoooo holy shit the Agnelli quote hits different once you realize he was already planning to breakaway from CL:
    "Provide great opportunities for those teams participating in that competition."

  • @SantiHRod
    @SantiHRod Před 3 lety +13

    I would like for UEFA to give more champions spaces to the leagues of the Netherlands, Serbia, Portugal, etc. Because there are not enough representatives of those leagues.

  • @lumiya4596
    @lumiya4596 Před 3 lety +389

    This is gonna be exhausting for teams qualified in this ucl while playing in their local league

    • @lumiya4596
      @lumiya4596 Před 3 lety +2

      @Bakamalian This is honestly a good concept if those clubs that are in this super league dont have to play in their domestic league.
      I could write here what I think are the pros and cons of it, but it's a long, long list. Simply put, making a super league would be a lot more complex.

    • @jezusmylord
      @jezusmylord Před 3 lety +1

      @@lumiya4596 its not, what if they underperform in the super league? what if they dont bring enought reveniue like dunno milan or someone after they were in the super leauge? will they be thrown away? if they stopped playing in domestic league they cant just pop back in in tier 1, they would have to go from the bottom.

    • @vincenzodanello4085
      @vincenzodanello4085 Před 3 lety +5

      ​@Bakamalian Well this new format is basically a 36-team super league, since they're playing in a league format (with less games though)
      It looks like a compromise between the current format, and the Super league that top clubs want.

    • @lumiya4596
      @lumiya4596 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jezusmylord Yeah thats why im saying it's complicated. There's a lot of stuff to be sorted and talked about.
      The main problem with today is these guy's are always thinking about how to generate revenue. And the idea is to put the top teams together and see the ticket sales sky rocket. This is the one major good point of the concept.
      But there is a lot more cons imo. For example is the groupstage logistics, knockout stage mechanics, traveling logistics, and as you said, teams' performances.

    • @jezusmylord
      @jezusmylord Před 3 lety +9

      @@lumiya4596 they dont care about logistics they want the sweet sweet moneyz. And the group stage doesnt make sense because the games in like 2 seasons will again feel like a repetitions and people will get bored with it.

  • @mgutierrez2351
    @mgutierrez2351 Před 3 lety +307

    Have you all noticed that Agnelli is pushing for this new formats the exact moment his team is getting humiliated by Porto, Inter and Atalanta???

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Před 3 lety +11

      He needs to be binned from football like Blatter and his crew of micreants.

    • @caneybey5590
      @caneybey5590 Před 3 lety +4

      No he did that before the Porto games.

    • @recluse5122
      @recluse5122 Před 3 lety +8

      He's been at it for years. Get some info.

    • @MakenziAtlantis
      @MakenziAtlantis Před 3 lety +2

      All "big" clubs are pushing for this it's not just him

    • @lucasa.3189
      @lucasa.3189 Před 3 lety +2

      and Lyon

  • @Ya-si5rb
    @Ya-si5rb Před 3 lety +71

    Funny how today everyone’s siding with UEFA after the ESL news

    • @snow5064
      @snow5064 Před 3 lety +1

      everything is good when compared to esl

    • @Thedude88905
      @Thedude88905 Před 3 lety +38

      @@snow5064 Nope. UEFA are part of the problem.

    •  Před 3 lety +8

      Well yea we're being faced with two decisions: bad one, or worst one. Rip football.

    • @jordanvalencia9597
      @jordanvalencia9597 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Thedude88905 I have to agree, there must be something else about the changes that they're not telling us about the UCL that the Elite 12 decided to make a threat for an ESL.

    • @Carlos-wm6ev
      @Carlos-wm6ev Před 3 lety +1

      nobody is siding with uefa.. we are siding against the soccer league

  • @greyafrodude
    @greyafrodude Před 3 lety +34

    These proposals make Arsene Wenger's bonkers new offside plan look like Einstein's theory of relativity

  • @appljuice9
    @appljuice9 Před 3 lety +533

    The reason champions league clashes between huge clubs are so watched is partly due to the fact that it's a rare event, if it happens more often it's just gonna lose some gravity. Sad

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 Před 3 lety +10

      I would like to see the champions of each league qualify for the group stages automatically without having to first go into knockouts.
      The problem with the Champions league is that a fourth place team in a big league is given favoritism over smaller clubs from smaller leagues.
      You can have the champions of say Norway, Denmark, Ireland or Austria never getting to the next level because they are left out of the financial rewards.

    • @Djordjevicc
      @Djordjevicc Před 3 lety +11

      @@bighands69 but thats logical because their leagues are not nearly as popular or good. I think the coefficients are a good thing. I'm from the Netherlands and its a huge deal here if for instance AZ, PSV, Feyenoord pick up wins in the Europa League, not just because they're "our teams", but because it can allow us to eventually get a 2nd Champions League spot too. We want to be a big competition, I think everyone wanrs their competition to be bigger, with more talent, more attention. If Denmark wants this, they need to grow. And with that I mean the way Turkey does it, or how Dutch clubs run their team. With good youth programs and major profits, Ajax is even on the stock market. Get creative. An Irish or Austrian competition shouldnt be dependent on Champions League football. And in a way, you're cheating teams with a way more competitive league out of income as well. Imagine Bayern only going to the CL, Dortmund getting less funds, they fall behind, boom goes the competition. So it goes both ways. I get where you're coming from, but what football fan/consumer wants to see PSG absolutely stomp on the champions of Ireland or Norway? At least the way it is now it gives teams a chance while still keeping it enjoyable and interesting for the average fan. The new Swiss model shits all over that. And let us not even start about the Super League..

    • @krystof9826
      @krystof9826 Před 3 lety +7

      ​@@Djordjevicc even the current model creates unequal chances and makes the rich clubs even richer. when only one club per competition was allowed, clubs from the top 5 leagues won 71 % of seasons, today it's 96 %. We see clubs from England, Italy and so on getting beaten and knocked out in the UCL or UEL by clubs from the Netherlands, Portugal, Greece or Eastern Europe. Yet these countries have a hard time securing at least one or two spots in the UCL. this creates a cycle of the rich clubs getting more revenue and getting even richer. this safety net is obviously not enough, so we can look forward to the swiss system and possibly the Super League.

    • @Djordjevicc
      @Djordjevicc Před 3 lety

      @@krystof9826 I agree although I think a certain way about "champions only" I also am not a huge fan of the way it is now. I think adding more teams in general to the CL could be good, but not in the Swiss model. At the end of the day these teams will always thrive because they are the absolute biggest household names by now. But look at an Arsenal righg now, or a Barcelona thats in 1.3bn debt and will probably lose their biggest icon soon. Teams come and go. It will of course never be 'fair', teams like Madrid, Juve, Liverpool will always stay at the top, but they've put in the work to get there as well and have a deep history. But with good management, good internal structures and a proper philosophy clubs can grow, just look at Ajax or Leicester now vs 10yrs ago for instance. TLDR; I'd prefer more teams and a bigger UCL in general, giving "lesser" teams from Greece, Netherlands, Scandinavia etc the chance to get a slice of the cake instead of putting them away in the Europa League. Just combine both leagues, fuck it. But keep it in the system it always has been, not a bloody Swiss model of course.

    • @gusp6612
      @gusp6612 Před 3 lety

      @@bighands69 the financial rewards is stupidly low in the first place, with most going into UEFA officials’ pockets

  • @grimaffiliations3671
    @grimaffiliations3671 Před 3 lety +284

    If we’re going by historic performance Total Sportek should always be given a place

  • @haubir95
    @haubir95 Před 3 lety +12

    It is so weird watching this after the Super League announcements

  • @aeugenio97
    @aeugenio97 Před 3 lety +1

    Very well explained, as always. Keep up the superb content!

  • @mrlajel
    @mrlajel Před 3 lety +162

    It's Agnelli, whose team never won CL recently, except two at the past.

    • @ylh2019
      @ylh2019 Před 3 lety +25

      At this rate, I'm not even sure why the men in white coats haven't visited Agnelli at least once.

    • @jozefbrodala5318
      @jozefbrodala5318 Před 3 lety +9

      And who might not make it next season

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jozefbrodala5318 Really hope they don't, he's the reason I want the worst things to happen to Juve.

    • @user-if8wh5xf1p
      @user-if8wh5xf1p Před 3 lety

      @Ich liebe München damn that’s harsh

  • @maximus1318able
    @maximus1318able Před 3 lety +166

    The historic performance part, is that what they are calling it when they pick who they want to win??

    • @daveeol1987
      @daveeol1987 Před 3 lety +13

      Theyve earned the right by there generous previous donations to the uafa hooker fund

    • @MrSilender
      @MrSilender Před 3 lety

      The magic about those European competitions is that you cant meet with teams you would never imagine, maybe for them, it is an annoyance but it is the magic of football and sport in general and with this system they just throw this aspect into the bin...

  • @willemrood
    @willemrood Před rokem +4

    The only positive for me is the Swiss style format. It's more competitive whilst also being more forgiving. Also for smaller clubs it is a nice way of generating more revenue due to the guaranteed longer participation. and if a small team performs well, they earn their their way to play against a top club.
    In terms of qualification though... yeah that needs work. Maybe easier progression from lower level tourneys would solve that problem (e.g. qualification upon winning Europa and/or conference leagues?)

  • @zekigoktug9625
    @zekigoktug9625 Před rokem +3

    Between 1992 and 2009, the UEFA Champions League was a tournament with fair participation, the change in the qualifying system in the 2009-10 season caused football to end slowly in Europe.

  • @ArmMilitia
    @ArmMilitia Před 3 lety +348

    More injuries, more money for top teams and damaging financially for first division teams that arent the big 4, especially outside of EPL, Serie A, La Liga and Bundesliga

    • @cakhng7495
      @cakhng7495 Před 3 lety +18

      And that's exactly what UEFA and the big boys want

    • @amdn7622
      @amdn7622 Před 3 lety +2

      The injuries is even more scarier 😣

    • @andresangarita3165
      @andresangarita3165 Před 3 lety

      This can be potentially damaging for some big clubs too, since teams like milan, barcelona, borussia dortmund and others doest have the budget to keep up with the richest teams to the likes of man. City, psg, real madrid and Bayern

    • @ArmMilitia
      @ArmMilitia Před 3 lety

      @@andresangarita3165 This system provides more revenue

    • @andresangarita3165
      @andresangarita3165 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ArmMilitia but I don't think that revenue is going to be consistent as the time goes by and the same teams make it to the final stages. I think it's likely to happen after 5 or 6 years people is going to get tired and bored of it and the revenue will decrease.

  • @CCoffey_2023
    @CCoffey_2023 Před 3 lety +228

    As a fan of a “smaller” club I think that this is not good for the future of the game and is just a power grab by the big teams

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Před 3 lety

      Which smaller club ?

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Před 3 lety

      @Shalin Tanna I did not even notice xD

    • @afonsoferreira2652
      @afonsoferreira2652 Před 3 lety

      Increasing inequality

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 Před 3 lety +6

      If you are a fan of smaller leagues what you should be demanding is that the winners of those leagues be given automatic qualification to the groups stages. As it stands the runner up of a large league is given favoritism over smaller league winners.
      It is not fair that small teams have to go through knockout stages early before they get knocked out by a large team with far more money and resources.

  • @SKYWalkersSG
    @SKYWalkersSG Před 2 lety +1

    I watched this in 2021, forgotten about the new format, watched again in 2022.
    Congrats for the 1million subs.

  • @wishiknewaname9307
    @wishiknewaname9307 Před 3 lety +4

    I’m okay with everything but adding a team that “performed well in recent Champions Leagues”,
    the 2 underperforming clubs spot, and how they will rank the teams. Give those 3 additional spots to the Eredivise, Super Lig, Jupiter League, or some team from Greece, Switzerland, Portugal, or some European league.

  • @pedroantonio1827
    @pedroantonio1827 Před 3 lety +306

    Just remind you that Ajax has won more Champions League than Juventus (Agnelli's team)

    • @markomurguia2743
      @markomurguia2743 Před 3 lety +13

      That’s why he wants to push out “small” clubs

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 Před 3 lety +9

      Juventus is a joke club. The Italian FA should do an investigation on every single one of their titles, I'm completely sure with all certainty that about at least 51% of their titles has something to do with fixing, corruption, mafia, etc. But that would cause a goddamn mafia war. It'd be interesting to see. But yeah, they still can't bribe and steal at the European level so they need to cheat in other ways. It will not work out though, they'll still suck. It's just what they do.

    • @HM-eq2qi
      @HM-eq2qi Před 3 lety +8

      5th ranked league (currently French) shouldn’t get an extra spot as the gap between them and 4th (Bundesliga) is wide. Portuguese league can or will overtake them if things remain the same. Also, Eredivisie is climbing up the ranking again, 7th now and might return to the old winning days. In terms of titles won by nation, Spain (18), England (13), Italy (12), Germany (8), Netherlands (6), Portugal (4), France & Romania & Scotland & Yugoslavia (1 each).

    • @mcmcnair97
      @mcmcnair97 Před 3 lety +1

      But it was Edwin Van Der Sar of Ajax who suggested this model... did you not see how Ajax will clearly benefit from it? Agnelli has also clearly tried to stack the deck in his clubs favour but all these so called "super clubs" in Europe have had a role in this

    • @MakenziAtlantis
      @MakenziAtlantis Před 3 lety

      @@mcmcnair97 people forget that ajax is the richest club in holland. They are more valuable than some teams who qualify for europe in top 4 leagues

  • @ManroeAgians
    @ManroeAgians Před 3 lety +297

    They didn't really think about potential injury crises plaguing the clubs participating, did they? Seems to be too profit-oriented while lacking risk assessments.

    • @choncha23
      @choncha23 Před 3 lety +5

      I think this will give rise to more matches for younger talent at the league level.

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +35

      It’s gonna kill off domestic leagues cause the big clubs will play their reserves to save them for this new fraudulent format. Games gone.

    • @ManroeAgians
      @ManroeAgians Před 3 lety +20

      @@choncha23 For big clubs, maybe. But not for financially mediocre clubs. Usually, they struggle at squad depth, and more so in this format.

    • @ManroeAgians
      @ManroeAgians Před 3 lety +7

      @@iwantgoals1566 Especially domestic leagues with lower coefficients. The so-called "giant killing" will be lesser than before.

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful Před 3 lety +2

      @@ManroeAgians it actually help the top mid clubs to put young/backup players in the qualification stage Like what leicester did in europa and Now ihenacho start to show his teeth.

  • @timlewis1165
    @timlewis1165 Před 3 lety +5

    Perhaps they should look at historical performances and the 11 most successful teams in the competition compete. Welcome back to the big time Nottingham Forest!

  • @David-sc7hx
    @David-sc7hx Před 3 lety +21

    The more they change football, the more I fall out of love with it. I remember waking up early when I was 10 to watch the world cup final and all the wonder that game gave me. Today that Iniesta goal would've been ruled offside by VAR. These days that love isnt there anymore. Football's changed.

  • @canarycatchup
    @canarycatchup Před 3 lety +492

    So basically, less underdog stories and upsets 😬

    • @superkostlegend6592
      @superkostlegend6592 Před 3 lety +16

      @SuperNegr228 True underdogs only come from 6th-7th and lesser coefficient leagues in my opinion. Only *Ajax meets this criteria

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 Před 3 lety +19

      @@superkostlegend6592 Lol Ajax is way bigger than all of those teams. And has way better finances, etc. How can a multiple times CL winner be an underdog and a club invented in the 2000s not? Just because of their country? That's foolish. Leipzig is an underdog, they are not expected to do big things just because they are german, just as leicester wouldn't be expected to do big things just because they are english. Use logic fella. Regardless, those 4 clubs are not elite clubs, and they maybe it to the semis beautifully that's what he means by that.

    • @karsten7566
      @karsten7566 Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@RenegadeShepard69 Because the Eredivisie fell off completely, and so did Ajax due to the money grabbing European football system, that would make it almost impossible for non top 5 leagues to come close to the European elite.
      And yes, Ajax had won the Europa Cup previously and is one of the biggest clubs of all time history-wise, but that's not a guarantee to be a top club 20 years later. They didn't reach what they did just because they had a good history, that's 'foolish'.
      Ajax managed to break out the moneyball system, because of an incredible club policy to get their finances up again, and not by being dependent on a top 5 league.
      That's why they were, and still are, an underdog in my opinion. You don't have to agree with me, but you'll see that it will take a while for another non top 5 league club to repeat what Ajax did.

    • @karsten7566
      @karsten7566 Před 3 lety

      @@RenegadeShepard69 I don't know why I'm still writing but I felt the need I guess.
      But what I wanted to point out as well: by saying "How can a multiple times CL winner be an underdog and a club invented in the 2000s not?", you're completely twisting the reality. You're making it seem like Leipzig was a club built out of nothing, while Ajax was a giant.
      It's quite the opposite. Ajax was nothing in the 2000's and 2010's, not even being the best club in their own league, while Leipzig was Red Bull.
      I can definitely credit RB for their accomplishment, though. But they had the advantage of a whole lot of money and a top 3 league in the world.
      It's not about clubs such as Leicester accomplishing things because of their nation. You have to look at the bigger picture. Leicester had the nation with the biggest league itw, a wealthy owner and a great policy. That's the reality. Ajax only had the latter.

    • @SOMEONE-cd9wf
      @SOMEONE-cd9wf Před 3 lety +2

      Basically more and guaranteed money for big clubs and therefore UEFA.

  • @zubeirabrahams8205
    @zubeirabrahams8205 Před 3 lety +185

    "This is a dictatorship not a democracy" - Jeremy Clarkson

  • @doc-t-8648
    @doc-t-8648 Před 3 lety

    Swiss rounds in my experience are different in things like card games (pokemon, MTG, Yugioh, etc).
    in swiss you have initial pairings. Then you play then you have another pairing where the 1-0 players play eachother and the 0-1 players play eachother. Then you pair again and you have 2-0 players, 1-1 players, and 0-2 players and so on and so forth.
    You do this until you have a clear top 8 or top 16 depending on how many players there are. Even if you keep losing you keep playing.
    I know this would be difficult in soccer because of travel and all and schedule being made in advance but this would be very cool if it were possible.

  • @DodgyMalakaReal
    @DodgyMalakaReal Před 3 lety +3

    1:27 Sure Sure

    • @mugen1077
      @mugen1077 Před 3 lety

      Went back on his words like a bitch.

  • @tennoki
    @tennoki Před 3 lety +116

    I remember when it takes being Champions to get into the CHAMPIONS league.
    "Oh but then x club wouldn't be able to qualify..." I don't care! The monopoly of talent wouldn't be so bad if clubs couldn't basically guarantee Champions League. Maybe then it might make sense to stay in the 2nd or 3rd best club in the player's country, whereas now even Dutch, Portuguese and Belgian champions bleed talent.

    • @Isorisu
      @Isorisu Před 3 lety +1

      I completely agree with this, and it is sad that they won't give even an extra confence spot. Money talks 💰💰💰

    • @Azza1o1
      @Azza1o1 Před 3 lety +4

      Spot on. Hate that when this point is brought up everyone turns to “but the 4th placed team in Spain is better than the winners of the Croatian league!!”.
      The reformatting of the champions league is one of the main reasons such a gap has opened between the top 4/5 leagues compared to the rest. Why would players even stay at clubs like Ajax and Brugge when all the money is condensed in 3 or 4 main countries?

    • @AffectedArea
      @AffectedArea Před 3 lety +2

      Apologists for the "Champions" League are the worst so-called football fans.

  • @bhups6729
    @bhups6729 Před 3 lety +505

    We fans need do something otherwise these money seekers will ruin the game. If they not good in particular season why give them spot

    • @subutaynoyan5372
      @subutaynoyan5372 Před 3 lety +24

      That is the only issue I have with this model actually. It's probably pushed by big leagues to secure more money for the likes of Manu and all.

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +63

      I’m cancelling my BT subscription when this new format rolls out and I’m giving detailed reasons as to why this is shit for football. I can only encourage all other fans round the world to do the same and boycott tickets/new subscriptions.

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety +1

      @@iwantgoals1566 🤣

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +47

      @@wizzer4385 Bro why you laughing? Having that kind of attitude is what will continue to allow them to steal the game from us. We have to unite as a global fanbase

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety

      @@iwantgoals1566 steal what? Unite for what, 🤣

  • @paulhulme4067
    @paulhulme4067 Před 3 lety

    Tried to read something on it, gave up, CZcams, Tifo video...perfect 👌

  • @Marioejoseph
    @Marioejoseph Před 2 lety

    You can add more games to your calendar by adding regulations on how many games an individual player can play in a season, say like a player can be limited to play like 50 games a season, but the club over all can play may be even up to 80 or 90 games a season, so player game time management becomes a key aspect so we can see options for other raising talents more assured game time within their parent club, like Chelsea can guarantee Connor Gallagher a good amount of playing time (30 to 40 games a season) rather than sending him out on loan.. Squad depth and player rotation becomes key at that time especially when playing in Europe. You can play an Everton over the weekend and just a couple of days later, field a completely different starting 11 for an European night.

  • @jacquesdelyons3516
    @jacquesdelyons3516 Před 3 lety +242

    The older I get the more respect I have for players like Totti and Le Tissier who stayed with the club they loved rather than shipping off to win trophies. Its a greater challenge to fight for victories in an undermanned side than it is to fight for silverware with a stacked team.

    • @tihorjar8997
      @tihorjar8997 Před 3 lety +13

      You forgot to mention Harry Kane

    • @ivanvoronov3871
      @ivanvoronov3871 Před 3 lety +23

      Steven Gerrard comes to mind

    • @jorgecibrian7586
      @jorgecibrian7586 Před 3 lety +5

      Messi

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 Před 3 lety

      @@tihorjar8997 We have to wait a bit to confirm that. If he doesn't leave than yeah, definetly, but with every rumour and every journalist wanting him to leave he'll need some really strong mentality to stay loyal. I'm hoping he does, he will be a legend of english football anyways, but between doing that as the greatest tottenham player ever or as just another title grabber in an elite club I'd prefer him to be an icon any day. From a complete neutral fan perspective by the way.

    • @miamitten1123
      @miamitten1123 Před 3 lety

      @@tihorjar8997 lol don’t speak too soon.

  • @daveoaktowers
    @daveoaktowers Před 3 lety +50

    Allure of the Champions League is that teams around Europe don't play each other that often. It's exciting when they do, getting them to play more often will just make it feel more routine.
    Almost like this is a mock trial of the European Super League.

  • @daejv3305
    @daejv3305 Před 3 lety +4

    Idea: Limit domestic competitions to 18 or 16 teams (fewer matches), increase European slots, matches in European competitions. And because for example in Premier league, non-qualified teams would play fewer matches now, create a new domestic (or international) cup for them to play extra matches (balance the revenue) with a European league slot(s) for next season.

  • @saharabeats
    @saharabeats Před 3 lety +1

    2:36 the champion of the eredivisie goes directly t the group fase of the CL, the 2nd place ha to play qualification matches

  • @terryhsiao1745
    @terryhsiao1745 Před 3 lety +91

    The problem I see immediately is how the it will be decided how you are going to play the 10 games. Lots of rigging could happen. I can also see myself having CL fatigue. Too many games to follow.

    • @choncha23
      @choncha23 Před 3 lety +21

      Champions League is a cash cow. I think the Champions league should be more exclusive. Top two clubs table clubs for each league in Europe. That would be short but entertainment value would be high.

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +12

      Not to mention the real life fatigue and injuries that will happen because of fixture congestion. This is all round a stupid idea.

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety

      @@iwantgoals1566 you already have fixture congestion in domestic games in england. The Other Clubs rely on the big clubs to make profit, in carabao and fa cup. Same thing in CL they rely on the big clubs to make money. But they can make more money and play better opposition if they start there own🤣

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety

      @@choncha23 Who is gonna sponsor that tournament🤣

    • @zauls.
      @zauls. Před 3 lety +1

      I'm not sure how they plan on making this work, but in traditional Swiss style tournaments, you are paired against a team with the same number of points as you each round, with the first round being completely random.

  • @PerticaJr
    @PerticaJr Před 3 lety +78

    Let's ask Croatian or Serbian clubs if they would be happy to see their Qualifications reduced so a sixth placed team can play CL and they don't. Friking horrible

    • @warrioroffpeace3673
      @warrioroffpeace3673 Před 3 lety +12

      Look at Ajax, they killed Lille recently who are first in France and yet the don’t get a direct spot.😂😂

    • @user-wr4ik5bn5i
      @user-wr4ik5bn5i Před 3 lety +1

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 But Lille win Pari 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @Dizzy_N
      @Dizzy_N Před 3 lety

      Boycott it

    • @Canas94
      @Canas94 Před 3 lety +3

      I'm gonna enjoy my season next year. I'm Scottish and my team, Rangers are getting Champion's League football for the first time in ages. Glad it's still the current format. As with what Rangers went through, being dropped down leagues and all. It would make coming back to the Champion's League an absolute nightmare under the new format. Losing spots so more privileged nations keep their big teams in it, a worse seeding system overall that really shows no preference to recent performances. Only towards the big teams of yesteryear. A huge team can drop so far in level and keep getting places. Thus allowing them the champions league money the smaller teams just can't get. What's happening with clubs like AC Milan (kinda) and Arsenal won't happen again. The clubs will recover immediately and get back to where they were with no threat of losing their places, despite finishing nearer mid table.

    • @Holidayinspain76
      @Holidayinspain76 Před 3 lety

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 They actually do (if they win the league). A couple of years ago the Netherlands was a little lower on the coefficients ranking so the champion had to play in the playoffs. Last season and the coming season the Dutch champion will be in the group stage

  • @gustianopamukir6150
    @gustianopamukir6150 Před 3 lety +7

    Agnelli : with this system my team will always be playing in UCL no matter what happen

  • @thenootss
    @thenootss Před 3 lety +8

    1:13 Well, this hasn't aged well

  • @ron4431
    @ron4431 Před 3 lety +190

    As if COVID isn't enough, now they have to break our favorite football tournament.

    • @nst1981
      @nst1981 Před 3 lety +9

      Lower league football is far more entertaining

    • @sarthakjoshi693
      @sarthakjoshi693 Před 3 lety

      @neuron ррр you're right about the wealth gap but football is still entertaining. Like wasn't the 2018 UCL entertaining with the no. of surprises.

  • @banthachannel5132
    @banthachannel5132 Před 3 lety +512

    This format is not a good idea.
    But they want that 💶💶💶

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +20

      I think the Glazers came up with that stupid idea of teams who finish in 5-7th still qualifying for the CL. Of course they want to get away with not investing in the team, letting it become mediocre but still making that sweet qualification money. The game is gone.

    • @gauravamatya9602
      @gauravamatya9602 Před 3 lety +16

      @@iwantgoals1566 European football especially English football needs to be purged off of any American owners who think that their American eggball NFL style of running the beautiful game is better, as all it does is generate higher revenue and ad space for those greedy vermins.

    • @iwantgoals1566
      @iwantgoals1566 Před 3 lety +6

      @@gauravamatya9602 Honestly the bums are a cancer to the game.

    • @wizzer4385
      @wizzer4385 Před 3 lety +1

      @@iwantgoals1566 you know Ajax is a big club in a smaller market in netherlands. So when they make CL there gonna have an unfair advantage, cause there a big club in netherlands. 🤣 they make more money than majority if not all clubs in netherlands. 🤣

    • @toastedt140
      @toastedt140 Před 3 lety

      @@gauravamatya9602 yes blame Americans for something created by Europeans for Europeans literally called "The Swiss Model"

  • @albnorragibi
    @albnorragibi Před 3 lety +3

    Well it's been an amazing ride Champions League, we hope to see you again at least once before we die. But for the moment Rest In Peace 😔❤💔

  • @guillermorojasc
    @guillermorojasc Před 3 lety +78

    Florentino Perez: "I'm gonna end Uefa's entire career"

  • @yt.personal.identification
    @yt.personal.identification Před 3 lety +43

    Rabona TV made a similar claim, that the big teams will play each other more often in the 'league' at the start.
    As they only play 10 games, the draw will miraculously put all the top teams against lesser teams to ensure they get through.
    They will use a 'rank' to give it an appearance of legitimacy.
    They can't have big teams knocking each other out in the early rounds.

  • @debm09
    @debm09 Před 3 lety +165

    You know why Juventus director is doing it.

  • @raducora7159
    @raducora7159 Před 10 měsíci +1

    2 years later and they scrapped the Swiss System part, which was the main thing making this more interesting.

  • @kieron2919
    @kieron2919 Před 3 lety +20

    Anybody here a few minutes before the supposed announcement of the European super league

    • @TheUltrasEnd
      @TheUltrasEnd Před 3 lety

      yep

    • @thejeffrey7199
      @thejeffrey7199 Před 3 lety +7

      Yes, now this Swiss Model looks a whole lot better al of the sudden, anything but this ESL with no caveats at all!

    • @swapnilgohil7280
      @swapnilgohil7280 Před 3 lety +3

      @@thejeffrey7199 i hate both

    • @njbrx
      @njbrx Před 3 lety +1

      @@swapnilgohil7280 agree

  • @MartieD
    @MartieD Před 3 lety +71

    The more games and chances teams get to qualify for or progress in CL/WC/EC/whatever, the less interesting each game becomes. I prefer importance over quantity.

    • @calvinbaII
      @calvinbaII Před 3 lety +8

      If UEFA was smart (it appears they aren't) they would reform their IP to grow their product better by reforming the CL,EL and adding back the CWC. Promote 3 different 'big 3' tournaments and only have 1 of them compete every Tues/Weds from early Sep-mid Dec, then Mar-May. You can pull this off by shrinking the CL down to 24 teams (similar to late 90s), expand the EL up to 64 teams (knockout style) and CWC with 32 teams (also knockout style). Hell, they even could salvage the Conference League concept by making it an exclusive "champions league" for countries that are 32nd coefficient and below after they are knocked out of the CL qualifiers (almost every single time anyway).
      The pay distribution could be evened out better so big clubs who finish 3rd/4th and go into EL/UEFA Cup can still make 0.70 to each CL dollar. So for the payouts of the big 3 CL->EL->CWC it's 100->70->50. Both EL/CWC champions get a group stage spot the next season. Far less meaningless game, every game matters, good financial payouts that pass down, more silverware for clubs to win, grow your IP by having each competition complement each other rather than compete against each other. WTF if wrong with UEFA? Under this proposed format they are creating a precursor to a super league that they will not control anyway and lose all that revenue down the road. Smarten the fuck up people!!

    • @kcong3520
      @kcong3520 Před 3 lety

      @@calvinbaII goodness, big ideas

    • @therapeface4153
      @therapeface4153 Před 3 lety +1

      Agreed. Giving teams more chances and making big games less important takes away the excitement

  • @haaspaas2
    @haaspaas2 Před 3 lety +119

    Those 4 extra spots should go to league 5,6,7 and 8 on the league coëfficient list. Its ridiculous how the already huge difference between top 4 and the rest is being made even bigger.

    • @rhettk8527
      @rhettk8527 Před 3 lety +6

      The next 4 best European leagues cause 6 is Brazilian currently

    • @YEEH.
      @YEEH. Před 3 lety +1

      but that wont make them money, who gives a fuck about those leagues enough to watch them?

    • @Bzorlan
      @Bzorlan Před 3 lety +1

      @@YEEH. fans of clubs that play in them

    • @jordanvalencia9597
      @jordanvalencia9597 Před 3 lety +7

      @@rhettk8527 you mean the same brazilian team that got beat by the mexican team in the CWC Semis? Nice work by Palmeira getting spanked by Nuevo Leon.

    • @jordanvalencia9597
      @jordanvalencia9597 Před 3 lety

      France (League 5) is getting an extra spot, the other spot is the best team who went furthest that is not from the first 5 league, which is Ajax in 2019, if Ajax made 1 or 2 in their league, automatic group entry.

  • @Nicole-by3ng
    @Nicole-by3ng Před 3 lety +15

    Okay so why is no one complaining about this?

    • @pritapp788
      @pritapp788 Před 3 lety

      Because UEFA "saved football"! If you want to believe that, of course.

  • @senorsoupe
    @senorsoupe Před 3 lety +4

    Even Joe's dulcet tones can't make me like this any more

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 Před 3 lety +75

    It’s just the age old idea of the European super league being brought in by stealth.

    • @danpreston564
      @danpreston564 Před 3 lety +6

      @Ryan Purdum there has been talk for as long as I can remember of the top clubs basically leaving their domestic competitions and all joining together to create a European premier league. Obviously it would be only open to the biggest clubs and would only benefit the biggest clubs because they are the ones who want it.
      The expanded champions league is just another step on that path. The European cup used to be a maximum of nine matches for those teams who reached the final. Four two legged matches and a final. Big clubs decided this didnt a make enough money, with only 4 home games, so they changed it to the group format in the early 90s. A finalist now will play 13 matches, with 6 home games. Under the new format it will be even more. They will keep pushing it until the teams can no longer play in both the ECL and their domestic cups, then a bit further until the teams have to choose to play domestically or in Europe.

    • @danpreston564
      @danpreston564 Před 3 lety

      @Ryan Purdum even the new champions league format wasn’t super league enough for the big clubs.

  • @walincoln7033
    @walincoln7033 Před 3 lety +68

    Cruyff summed it up best when he called it a "decaffeinated tournament"

  • @anjirohusodo2050
    @anjirohusodo2050 Před 3 lety +13

    We didnt realize, this is what Agneli trying to implement successfully with ESL's drama.

    • @sdm3032
      @sdm3032 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes ESL actually a fake drama by UEFA to divert people frm opposing new UCL format.

  • @jabrilmahmmed573
    @jabrilmahmmed573 Před 3 lety +9

    If UEFA made this official, fans wouldn't have accepted it but if all we went through the last 2 days was for us to accept this gladly, then that is crazy. They were playing chess and we were playing checkers.

  • @jetlifewill23
    @jetlifewill23 Před 3 lety +97

    This is format seems like the MLS where the structure is geared to help those with capital and making it harder to get in their exclusive club

    • @tonymontepeque6877
      @tonymontepeque6877 Před 3 lety +22

      this new format is literally just a fancy european version of the franchise system that exists here in the US.

    • @jetlifewill23
      @jetlifewill23 Před 3 lety +6

      @@tonymontepeque6877, agreed the only difference being that its for a continental competition instead of the domestic league or cup

    • @ryanjohnson6272
      @ryanjohnson6272 Před 3 lety +4

      Even if MLS is a closed shop, at least it has a salary cap to make it competitive. Sadly that doesn't exist in Europe.

    • @jetlifewill23
      @jetlifewill23 Před 3 lety

      @@ryanjohnson6272, salary cap doesnt mean crap really especially when teams go over it all the time its just not reported much just like the nba and NFL im sure the galaxy just pay luxury tax which defeats the purpose of the cap imo plus when the league literally has a hand in all your transfer dealings financially it doesnt help any club to grow it actually stifles growth

    • @JW-be8wf
      @JW-be8wf Před 3 lety

      @@jetlifewill23 NFL doesn't have a luxury tax. The salary cap is hard and frozen and can't be exceeded even by a dollar. And a team must spend 90% of the salary cap on actual salaries in the NFL. The draft system in American sports allows under performing teams to pick up top prospects in hopes of getting to the winner's circle. This mechanism requires a close shop. Something European football is not accustomed to but they pretend that all is well in their leagues. US sports are cyclical. Teams are good, then bad then good. European football is big man shows. Everyone else is there to feed players to the big boys. There is a reason RM, Barca and Athelitico have won 70 out of 90 La Liga titles ever contested.
      Luxury tax is the only mechanism ton curtail out of control spending without a hard salary cap. It doesn't defeat the purpose. The Brooklyn Nets are $70 million over the cap and there are 5 other teams over the cap, 2 of them are by a $1 million only. Lakers, Clippers, Nets and Warriors are the only teams over the cap and it is between 10-20% of the payroll.

  • @bobbywrtm
    @bobbywrtm Před 3 lety +40

    So... If you are spanish/England/Italy teams looking for treble, you needs to performs well in:
    38 domestic league games
    17 champions league games
    6 Domestic Cup Games (FA Cup model)
    for total of 61 games
    This is not including international break to be played for the players and 2nd tier domestic cup like carabao cup or other competition like FIFA Club world cup
    If all those included, your players gonna play for around 70 games a season or one game in every 5 days

    • @warrioroffpeace3673
      @warrioroffpeace3673 Před 3 lety

      You forget they get paid millions! It’s not like the have to fight or something.😂

    • @bobbywrtm
      @bobbywrtm Před 3 lety +14

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 Not talking about wage or salary here bro, I'm talking normal poor people like us paying hefty price for cable or subscribing online sports service hoping to see great entertainment on the weekend, instead we see the team we support is humiliated by rivals because their A team got injured

    • @nguyenxuanbao3513
      @nguyenxuanbao3513 Před 3 lety +5

      being paid millions does not mean that you have to be exploited

    • @suyashsapre262
      @suyashsapre262 Před 3 lety +1

      completely agree with you here but here's the catch players want more money. clubs need to get it from somewhere and they see this as the only option...... if everyone was worried about burnout vote against it ..... let's not forget its the cubs we support who have signed up for this willingly.....they should share the blame not only uefa

    • @yazidbougheda4257
      @yazidbougheda4257 Před 3 lety

      @@nguyenxuanbao3513 getting paid millions means YOU ARE NOT EXPLOITED
      you are exploited when you are not getting paid
      Give me 1 million $ a year and I will gladly play 100 games a season and I'm sure everyone here will take this offer with a some on their faces.

  • @danielberan7762
    @danielberan7762 Před 3 lety

    I agree with the sentiment coaches have on more games. But if more games are added to a season than teams will increase roster sizes and in turn more players will get a turn to shine. Of course it seems almost impossible for a single manager to deal with all these players

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave Před 3 lety +6

    01:05
    So some teams would have to play more games then others before the knock out stages are set ?!
    Already broken before it begins !!

  • @anthonyjudeaggabao2302
    @anthonyjudeaggabao2302 Před 3 lety +24

    The Swiss Model is basically an in denial version of the American model. A tournament divided by a regular season and playoffs. Tops clubs getting in through "historical performances" is basically the same as no relegation since big teams are set for atleast 2 seasons of UCL football as long as they do well in the current editions. Add the monstrous amount of games added to the schedule and it's basically Europe's version of the NBA.

    • @ksligh4893
      @ksligh4893 Před 3 lety

      The only similarity is the word playoff

    • @waiata216
      @waiata216 Před 3 lety

      European football involves 60 countries whereas the NBA is just one countrys clubs. Mind you there are 350m peple in the US and big states are alost like countries :). I actually am keen for the Premier League to use the NFL model to reduce the number of games. I would split the PL into two conferences North and South. Both conferences play the other members of their conferences home and away = 18 games. They also play the othe conference members once five away 5 home = 10 games. So 28 game regular season. winner of each conference play off for the title winner. One team from each conference relegated. 8 less games for most teams. I would change the season to Feb to mid November thus avoiding the long winter break some countries have to have.

  • @mattweiss7645
    @mattweiss7645 Před 3 lety +82

    The possible "scaling" of this sounds like a backdoor into the European Super League idea that got laughed out of the room last year.

    • @joshrobson2119
      @joshrobson2119 Před 3 lety +17

      This aged horribly ngl

    • @njbrx
      @njbrx Před 3 lety

      @@joshrobson2119 lmao yeah

    • @mattweiss7645
      @mattweiss7645 Před 3 lety +5

      @@joshrobson2119 looks like it's still aging just fine. They're now 0 for 2, but they will try again, potentially through the expanded UCL as I mentioned above.

    • @Anonymous-hj7yv
      @Anonymous-hj7yv Před 3 lety +1

      FBI open up!

  • @ijw2009
    @ijw2009 Před 3 lety

    First proper step towards the ESL. As you said the initial games will go up over time

  • @vEditorMedia
    @vEditorMedia Před 3 lety +1

    3:49 Text editing error! I think you made an extra opacity keyframe by mistake

  • @starsmasher568
    @starsmasher568 Před 3 lety +93

    It's sad how the Beautiful Game has become more about money than the actual sport.

  • @michaelfern4079
    @michaelfern4079 Před 3 lety +326

    Call me old fashioned and extremely naive but I long for the romance of all actual Champions thrown in a hat with fate being in the luck of the draw.

    • @PrimeRickSanchez
      @PrimeRickSanchez Před 3 lety +32

      No I think the majority of football fans want this also

    • @nikoscheinhardt385
      @nikoscheinhardt385 Před 3 lety

      @@PrimeRickSanchez nah I don't think luck should have too much of an influence

    • @rwatertree
      @rwatertree Před 3 lety +5

      If you mean an unseeded knockout tournament, yeah.

    • @giannid93
      @giannid93 Před 3 lety +12

      Fa Cup style? THATS FOOTBALL!

    • @Djordjevicc
      @Djordjevicc Před 3 lety +2

      @@PrimeRickSanchez depends. The set up? Yeah! All champions? Fuck nah. Imagine having to watch a CL with no Barcelona and Real, because Atletico won it. Do you watch the Club World Cup? This would be the European equivalent to that. Boring, with shitty teams and only 4 good teams in it. I highly doubt the majority would want that.

  • @theophiluskobla3109
    @theophiluskobla3109 Před 10 měsíci +1

    how are the teams going to be drawn against each other in the champions league 24/25 season during the league stage? What system is going to be used to pair the teams up in league phase.

  • @kavin_2106
    @kavin_2106 Před 2 lety +1

    it has the same effect if we play world cup once every 2 years
    if big teams face each other more often the value of the fixture is gone and it will be like a normal league game