I bet she regrets working there so much because now he's specifically trying to just drag her down to his level just because they did a project together once.
"I'm not homophobic; I worked with Ellen Page who fights for LGBT rights" is only a few notches about "I'm not racist; I have a black friend" as far as defenses go.
l3054 That's not exactly what racism is. It doesn't necessarily mean you hate a race, it means you see that race as either inferior or superior to your own. I could be friends with a black guy(s) and see him as an exception among black people, that kind of thing.
l3054 I don't know where you got that from, but most black people don't see themselves as superior. A lot do see themselves as victims of slavery, but actual superiority isn't all that common. If you really think white people aren't as racist, try hanging around libertarian/ anti SJW places, it's as much a problem there. Good people don't make the news, only the racist and/or controversial get attention. I suggest you avoid any statement like that without concrete evidence and statistics, because that is what leads to racism.
l3054 And socialism comes from the root word social. That doesn't mean to be capitalist is to be antisocial. I really don't care what your position is, but please don't base it off only anecdotal evidence. Don't just lump everyone under a label just because you encountered a few who said racist things, be they black, white, or whatever, or you become the very thing you're not trying to be, a racist.
Now to be fair Japan is where children shoving their fingers into your butt is considered a game. They even wrote an ENTIRE MANGA ABOUT IT. NO REALLY. I remember reading an early comedy manga where an entire classroom of elementary school children basically sexually harassed their hot teacher for almost it's entirety because she was hot. I forget the title tho XD
...that is... actually pretty fucked up shit, dude... like, i get a few "haha"s with that kind of comedy. you can call it childish, sexist and/or inappropriate, but okay fine, it can be a little funny if done in a funny way maybe A FEW times. but an entire manga? with an anime close to a 100 episodes? and live action films?! whaaaaaat?!!!
Well David Cage believes you should write what you know. It's only natural he should help his coworkers experience what it's like being an enslaved android.
Yes. David Cage is the French equivilent of a Knight. He was awarded the Légion d'honneur _by a man he helped get appointed._ And I'm still here, just to suffer through these bad games and terrible french taste.
I haven't even watched this yet and I already know it's going to be fucking good EDIT: I want you all to remember that David cage had a scrap book of creepy pictures of Ellen Paige. She was caught off guard. Let that one simmer and tell me if you were surprised at this current state of affairs.
Quantic Dream selected every bad route option for their work environment just to get the achievement and see what happens in the end... only to forget they weren't in an actual video game.
My favorite quote from the articles: Where they brought up how Detroid has some creepy shit in it and the exact quote for wanting to change things to not be creepy was "David Cage doesn't listen."
"Judge me by my work" Never forget that the voice lines were recorded that include guttural screaming, "Hold her down, Frank!," Jodie saying "No" "Please" and "Stop" repeatedly, calling out for Aiden, and after, crying and asking Aiden why he let them hurt her, implying that Jodie was absolutely supposed to be raped on that pool table. Yeah, with that "work" in mind, I think I can judge David pretty accurately.
Geremy Tibbles Indeed she wasn't. David Cage also did a bunch of creepy shit to her, so the "I know Ellen Page" line is, to put it mildly, insufficient.
Would've liked to see Ellen Page in a cool game without all the fucked up David Cage shit, would've like for an excuse for her to do the adorable juggling trick in video game form and given a goofy context was to why she's juggling.
2:55 Itagaki's case was not even related to touching, it was him being accused of sexual harassment and the courts found him innocent. It was an ex-lover who worked with him who got upset. I know Zaibatsu loves the memeing but seriously, its annoying when they believe sexual assault and spread false info. Yeah, I get its funny but its also fucked up when you try to spin it as the truth.
"But I write ze whemen strong! I know ze whemen! I write how zey each gets raped 75 times a day and how we needs to watch zem take showers! See? I know your plight, whemen! I am no creep! I'm a nice guy! SLEEP WITH MEEEE!"
henryvolt35 It might be shit work but is any of it really racist or homophobic? I don't know about you but I consider "Bad designer and failed director" much smaller smear on my character than Racist/Sexist/Homophobe
CyberNinjaZero Homophobic no, but anyone who's played enough of the David Cage games knows damn well that the racist/Sexualy offensive claims is right on the money when describing a David cage game.
Do you remember Tyler from Indigo Prophecy? The "funny" black guy who had hip hop playing constantly in his head, cheated his friends out of money with basketball skills, literally took damage at the thought of doing work, and was voice acted by some white guy 'talking jive'. Him, the Asian librarian guy, and 'Mad Jack' the literal "big angry black guy boss fight" are my favorite examples of how regressive David Cage's character writing is.
@@cyberninjazero5659 some people say he's sexist cause every female characters in his game are usually victims of some kind of abuse. I don't know all his games so I don't know how off or on that claim is. But based on the ones I have seen it does seem accurate.
@@katiebayliss9887I wouldn't call that "sexist" but more so a bit creepy. I've been reading some comics where the author was found out to be a pedo and his comics sometimes have moments where some creepy shit happens or is alluded to (one off the top of my head is issue 1 of Prime where it starts with him fighting a gym coach who's groping girls) and it's a little bit fucked in hindsight with what we know now.
so i finaly saw the fuckin nude model that ellan page is suing about on some random 4chan thing...its a fuck ton creepier than i thought it would be its a mix of, this is not supposed to be here this is not ok, and some one put a concerning level detail into this
"CD Projekt Red has done a bunch of fucked up shit." They made the good potion making game Witcher 3. I don't believe it. "Quantic Dream has done a bunch of fucked up shit too." DIKHEDS
Miles Edgeworth the accusations against CD just don't make sense we've seen what happens to a dev under the circumstances described it's Mass Effect Andromeda not Witcher 3. You can't claim that the exact same conditions that created one of the biggest flops of the year created the best game of another it's just not plausible l
The weirdest thing about the Zaibatsu and David Cage is that "Game overs are a failure of the game designer" makes a weird kinda sense. I'd argue that in a "perfect" game, the player would never see a game over (but the capacity to fail would still be there) because excellent design makes it clear what's expected of the player, and finely tuned controls make accomplishing that possible. Granted, Cage has done shit dick all to bring his games anywhere near even a mediocre quality, but what he's saying in that one quote has some sensibility behind it.
Azzabackam then it sou as like Kojima will be the one to put this into practice. In Death Stranding he's confirmed that when the player does, it's not a game over. But instead your sent to what is essentially purgatory and in there you can look for items or other shit....But the main goal is to basically find your body, and resurrect themselves. Sounds a lot better then what cage has ever come up with.
Game Overs are not a failure of game design; A failure of game design is a failure of game design. Game Overs are suppose to be the consequence of the failure of the player, and to expect a player to never get a failure for fucking up either means that your game will either make it so that they get bad results for fucking up bad, and that can work, or your decisions don't matter and have no consequence, which is garbage. Nothing feels more bad of a game design that shoving QTEs in that the player can literally fail at every one and it affects nothing... or do all of them and affects nothing. Look at Mortal Kombat X as an example of shoved in mechanics and designs that mean fucking nothing. That's failure of the game design. Having bad controls, controls that don't work, mechanics that are executed poorly, mechanics that contradict with other mechanics where in it makes a mess of a game, either really repetitive and boring gameplay or extremely unfair and bullshit gameplay, is failure of the game design. Game Overs in themselves are not Failures of Game Design. If that were the case, then every game played by DarkSydePhil is a failure in game design... And if we have to make games that accommodate players such as DarkSydePhil to make sure that no one gets Game Overs, we might as well not have anything like Cuphead or Dark Souls anymore.
I hate david cage as much as the next guy but even i'm a little surpried to hear about this david cage alawys seemed nice in interviews (i'm not a fan of him but he still seemed nice)
Guilty until proven innocent. All because of the last trailer. Everyone want the game banned. When Red Dead Redemption 2 Manhunt 3 shows their next trailer with violence. Everybodye will bring up the hard working conditions at Rockstar Games and the violence, sexism racism in the game. Video games are dying. Some many SWJs
Nobody wants the game banned. But when the director and writer is shit at both and creates a toxic work enviroment for his employees, people are gonna call him out for it.
SWJs... Illiteracy has reached the point where you can't even get acronyms right... A game set in the old west is violent, sexist, and racist!? But, but, that's not what I learned! Everyone back then was an honest and upstanding good old boy, just like on Bonanza, right? Fucking eejit...
I made ze bad work place
My favorite quip from the reddit page for this was "He always did want to be like hollywood."
PolygonalFish DUUUUUDE
PolygonalFish *Ouch.*
"Workers' rights are a failure of the game designer." - David Cage 2018.
"I'm not sexist, Ellen Page fights for that shit all the time and I worked with her! She's fighting _me_ of course, that's the lawsuit."
Oh my God I forgot that, David Cage is the dumbest.
I bet she regrets working there so much because now he's specifically trying to just drag her down to his level just because they did a project together once.
"Oh no! I made ze bad touch"
Sony blacklisting the reporter confirms literally everything in the report. Even if some stuff wasn't true, at this point, it doesn't matter.
"I'm not homophobic; I worked with Ellen Page who fights for LGBT rights" is only a few notches about "I'm not racist; I have a black friend" as far as defenses go.
"I'm not racist, I have a friend who has black friends."
Furymgs3
Almost as cringy as "I'm not racist, my girlfriend is asian".
l3054 That's not exactly what racism is. It doesn't necessarily mean you hate a race, it means you see that race as either inferior or superior to your own. I could be friends with a black guy(s) and see him as an exception among black people, that kind of thing.
l3054 I don't know where you got that from, but most black people don't see themselves as superior. A lot do see themselves as victims of slavery, but actual superiority isn't all that common. If you really think white people aren't as racist, try hanging around libertarian/ anti SJW places, it's as much a problem there. Good people don't make the news, only the racist and/or controversial get attention. I suggest you avoid any statement like that without concrete evidence and statistics, because that is what leads to racism.
l3054 And socialism comes from the root word social. That doesn't mean to be capitalist is to be antisocial. I really don't care what your position is, but please don't base it off only anecdotal evidence. Don't just lump everyone under a label just because you encountered a few who said racist things, be they black, white, or whatever, or you become the very thing you're not trying to be, a racist.
and nobody was suprised
And nothing of value was lost.
No, value was gained
Matt then puts on his "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" shirt.
"judge me by my work" ....pfffffttt hahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Lancrin If we were judging from his works, he'd get the fucking guillotine!
Box Tank! Careful you might give him ideas for future games
czcams.com/video/oBaKN3DpIcU/video.html
I think this perfectly encapsulates the reaction to that statement.
So basically he wants us to beleive he is an unholy harbinger of the apocalypse because thats what I get from his first "masterpiece" Omikron
When you think about it for a second, there's a second layer of irony to that quote. This is about how he's running his company. This IS his work.
"In Japan these are considered lax."
-Matt.
Now to be fair Japan is where children shoving their fingers into your butt is considered a game. They even wrote an ENTIRE MANGA ABOUT IT.
NO REALLY. I remember reading an early comedy manga where an entire classroom of elementary school children basically sexually harassed their hot teacher for almost it's entirety because she was hot. I forget the title tho XD
they're so into it they made a bronze statue of it.
oh shit i found it XD
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/MaicchinguMachikoSensei
...that is... actually pretty fucked up shit, dude...
like, i get a few "haha"s with that kind of comedy. you can call it childish, sexist and/or inappropriate, but okay fine, it can be a little funny if done in a funny way maybe A FEW times.
but an entire manga? with an anime close to a 100 episodes? and live action films?!
whaaaaaat?!!!
The 80's were fucked up XD
To be fair, it's pretty obscure, I kinda chalk it up as trash TV, Japan's version of saturday morning cartoons.
To quote Bender: "I am shocked! SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked."
Not knowing Ellen Page is a failure of the game designer.
War, war never changes and neither does David Cage.
Well David Cage believes you should write what you know. It's only natural he should help his coworkers experience what it's like being an enslaved android.
TheBlob346 And how it feels to be sexually exploited by a creepy weirdo.
Wait doesn't that mean he kung fu fought a helicopter then?
Yes. David Cage is the French equivilent of a Knight. He was awarded the Légion d'honneur _by a man he helped get appointed._ And I'm still here, just to suffer through these bad games and terrible french taste.
Nothing about this makes me feel like these two things are connected, nope.
David cage has the fucking légion d’honneur ? Oh my gos it was already a joke before but at this point it means nothing
that detroit LP is going to be nasty.
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnasty
Yal Rathol It's gonna be bellow the belt strikes the whole way.
Yal Rathol I LITERALLY cannot wait.
It's gonna be DELICIOUS!
HELL YEAH IT WILL BE
Everyday it's like Madison Page running away from David Cage's in the office with unending supply of office objects attacking you and chickens
*After Omikron* this is stress relief for the Best Friends Zaibatsu.
I haven't even watched this yet and I already know it's going to be fucking good
EDIT: I want you all to remember that David cage had a scrap book of creepy pictures of Ellen Paige. She was caught off guard. Let that one simmer and tell me if you were surprised at this current state of affairs.
Magnum BadGuy that was my first thought. "you mean the company made by the creepy ellen paige stalker has an unhealthy culture? WHAT A FUCKING SHOCK!"
I was surprised that there doesn't seem to be some sort of "sexual misconduct" other than weird kissing in this situation.
agsiar cage's partner and co-founder of the company allegedly tried to force himself on staffers during a party.
Yal Rathol
lol I guess that does seem more according to the creeptasticness found in the games.
Thanks for the reply
Magnum BadGuy yeah...I remember that..... kinda wish I didn’t....
Omikron 2: The Rise and Fall of Quantum Dreams.
Can't wait for that spicy lp
taffybeans Yea wen dose the shit come out?
taffybeans I am so ready for that nightmare.
"Judge me by my work!"
And at that moment, you can hear a thousand guns, all around the world, cocking at the ready.
When you're working for a guy named David _Cage_ , It shouldn't be too much of a surprise that the workplace is like a prison.
Crying in court is Failure of the game designer
The Detroit LP is going to be the Zaibatsu's revenge on David Cage for the pure suffering that was the Omikron LP.
Rey Mitchell Best friends play present Detroit LP the Revengence
Such a LUST FOR REVENGE! WHOOOOOOOOO?!
Omikron the Nomad Suffering
This aged well.
Should we put this in the Sadness Saga playlist?
Episode 7 :The Cage Fart Awakens
Quantic Dream selected every bad route option for their work environment just to get the achievement and see what happens in the end... only to forget they weren't in an actual video game.
I can listen to these guys shitting on David Cage for hours. Seriously. On anything.
My favorite quote from the articles: Where they brought up how Detroid has some creepy shit in it and the exact quote for wanting to change things to not be creepy was "David Cage doesn't listen."
“Sometimes the cartoonish creep turns out to be a real creep” *my eyes shift nervously to yoko taro*
Nothing about this shocks me at all.
DAVID CAGE KNOWS ZE WAY TO ELLEN PAGE VAGINE
BLACKIESBOY I believe you mean DE WEY
QUICK WOOLIE! PRESS R1 On Quantic Dream's studio Bosses!
Kovu Lion "Glass him"
Justice has been served.
-Ben Affleck
"Judge me by my work"
Never forget that the voice lines were recorded that include guttural screaming, "Hold her down, Frank!," Jodie saying "No" "Please" and "Stop" repeatedly, calling out for Aiden, and after, crying and asking Aiden why he let them hurt her, implying that Jodie was absolutely supposed to be raped on that pool table.
Yeah, with that "work" in mind, I think I can judge David pretty accurately.
What part of the LP is this now? Like 0.83?
DKing Detroit:Become Human 0.2 Birth by Sleep - A Fragmentary Passage
Wasn't Ellen Page not out as homosexual when they worked together?
Geremy Tibbles Indeed she wasn't. David Cage also did a bunch of creepy shit to her, so the "I know Ellen Page" line is, to put it mildly, insufficient.
Would've liked to see Ellen Page in a cool game without all the fucked up David Cage shit, would've like for an excuse for her to do the adorable juggling trick in video game form and given a goofy context was to why she's juggling.
Joel Rodriguez I see.....youre a man of culture as well.
Your soul is weighed down by Koopy Sandwiches.
Failing as a game designer is a failure of the game design
David "Creepazoid" Cage is our ninja way.
Boku no sexual harassment ?
Dead employee's in my studio are a failure of the game design
Well basically everybody wants to see how shitty this story can go.
Thegoodoldays I want this to get NUCLEAR when it blows up in Cage's inept face.
If you want a picture of the future, just imagine a dick farting on a human face forever.
I really wish that SBFP would collab with AdumPlaze when Detroit comes out, because both groups loathe David Cage.
2:55
Itagaki's case was not even related to touching, it was him being accused of sexual harassment and the courts found him innocent. It was an ex-lover who worked with him who got upset. I know Zaibatsu loves the memeing but seriously, its annoying when they believe sexual assault and spread false info. Yeah, I get its funny but its also fucked up when you try to spin it as the truth.
Gotta know what that Koopy sandwich feels like
David Cage AKA french Harvey Wienstien.
David Cage, the genius behind Heavy Fuck, Beyond: Two Fuck, and upcoming PS4 game Detroit: Become Fuck.
We got 2 full LP's too!
What an exclusive. Sony must be proud.
HOT TAKE
what's a David Cage
AzureBeats a failure of the game designer.
It's a Sadness class tipe and it evolves to get poison tipe if Ellen Page is in your team
Its a bad thing.
AzureBeats A miserable pile of failures of the game design(and secrets)
Sebastian Barrios but enough talk, have at you!
why are people hyped for david cages new game again???
"But I write ze whemen strong! I know ze whemen! I write how zey each gets raped 75 times a day and how we needs to watch zem take showers! See? I know your plight, whemen! I am no creep! I'm a nice guy! SLEEP WITH MEEEE!"
time is funny sometimes
david cage pays you in david cage playhouse dollars
David.C "Judge me by my Work." Me: hahaha Really dude.
henryvolt35 It might be shit work but is any of it really racist or homophobic? I don't know about you but I consider "Bad designer and failed director" much smaller smear on my character than Racist/Sexist/Homophobe
CyberNinjaZero Homophobic no, but anyone who's played enough of the David Cage games knows damn well that the racist/Sexualy offensive claims is right on the money when describing a David cage game.
Do you remember Tyler from Indigo Prophecy? The "funny" black guy who had hip hop playing constantly in his head, cheated his friends out of money with basketball skills, literally took damage at the thought of doing work, and was voice acted by some white guy 'talking jive'.
Him, the Asian librarian guy, and 'Mad Jack' the literal "big angry black guy boss fight" are my favorite examples of how regressive David Cage's character writing is.
@@cyberninjazero5659 some people say he's sexist cause every female characters in his game are usually victims of some kind of abuse. I don't know all his games so I don't know how off or on that claim is. But based on the ones I have seen it does seem accurate.
@@katiebayliss9887I wouldn't call that "sexist" but more so a bit creepy.
I've been reading some comics where the author was found out to be a pedo and his comics sometimes have moments where some creepy shit happens or is alluded to (one off the top of my head is issue 1 of Prime where it starts with him fighting a gym coach who's groping girls) and it's a little bit fucked in hindsight with what we know now.
One hundred million Koopies?! Matt that would bankrupt the Omikron economy! Oh wait...nevermind...
I hope David Cage keeps making games forever.
These lp's are the best.
Health code vilation shut that shit down.
Ooh hints at an upcoming lp? A creepy anime bullshit one at that?
so i finaly saw the fuckin nude model that ellan page is suing about on some random 4chan thing...its a fuck ton creepier than i thought it would be
its a mix of, this is not supposed to be here this is not ok, and some one put a concerning level detail into this
Idk why but black mirror decides to play new seat episode first, then new to old
inb4 all this are made into a movie-I MEAN game by David Cage
Omikron remastered?
I feel almost 100% like they wouldnt have said it was good if they didnt know the entire game wasnt directed by just cage.
"CD Projekt Red has done a bunch of fucked up shit."
They made the good potion making game Witcher 3. I don't believe it.
"Quantic Dream has done a bunch of fucked up shit too."
DIKHEDS
Yeah but The Witcher 3 is a great game. Any crap made by Caghe is utter shite.
Miles Edgeworth I agree as one of the faceless public, as long as the game is good I will look the other way as it doesnt involve me.
Miles Edgeworth the accusations against CD just don't make sense we've seen what happens to a dev under the circumstances described it's Mass Effect Andromeda not Witcher 3. You can't claim that the exact same conditions that created one of the biggest flops of the year created the best game of another it's just not plausible l
What's this "bunch" of fucked up shit from CD Projekt Red? Do they have a scrap book full of Ellen Page and fantasized about her naked?
Oh no
I made ze bad game design
The weirdest thing about the Zaibatsu and David Cage is that "Game overs are a failure of the game designer" makes a weird kinda sense. I'd argue that in a "perfect" game, the player would never see a game over (but the capacity to fail would still be there) because excellent design makes it clear what's expected of the player, and finely tuned controls make accomplishing that possible.
Granted, Cage has done shit dick all to bring his games anywhere near even a mediocre quality, but what he's saying in that one quote has some sensibility behind it.
Azzabackam then it sou as like Kojima will be the one to put this into practice. In Death Stranding he's confirmed that when the player does, it's not a game over. But instead your sent to what is essentially purgatory and in there you can look for items or other shit....But the main goal is to basically find your body, and resurrect themselves.
Sounds a lot better then what cage has ever come up with.
Game Overs are not a failure of game design; A failure of game design is a failure of game design. Game Overs are suppose to be the consequence of the failure of the player, and to expect a player to never get a failure for fucking up either means that your game will either make it so that they get bad results for fucking up bad, and that can work, or your decisions don't matter and have no consequence, which is garbage.
Nothing feels more bad of a game design that shoving QTEs in that the player can literally fail at every one and it affects nothing... or do all of them and affects nothing. Look at Mortal Kombat X as an example of shoved in mechanics and designs that mean fucking nothing. That's failure of the game design.
Having bad controls, controls that don't work, mechanics that are executed poorly, mechanics that contradict with other mechanics where in it makes a mess of a game, either really repetitive and boring gameplay or extremely unfair and bullshit gameplay, is failure of the game design.
Game Overs in themselves are not Failures of Game Design. If that were the case, then every game played by DarkSydePhil is a failure in game design... And if we have to make games that accommodate players such as DarkSydePhil to make sure that no one gets Game Overs, we might as well not have anything like Cuphead or Dark Souls anymore.
Well if you don't walk poison won't hurt you
No love deep gameplay
I hate david cage as much as the next guy but even i'm a little surpried to hear about this david cage alawys seemed nice in interviews (i'm not a fan of him but he still seemed nice)
Leon DeFondleMe?
I hope there's a workers strike
I'm still hyped for this game
Guilty until proven innocent. All because of the last trailer. Everyone want the game banned. When Red Dead Redemption 2 Manhunt 3 shows their next trailer with violence. Everybodye will bring up the hard working conditions at Rockstar Games and the violence, sexism racism in the game. Video games are dying. Some many SWJs
Nobody wants the game banned. But when the director and writer is shit at both and creates a toxic work enviroment for his employees, people are gonna call him out for it.
People that scream "sjw's"...
SWJs... Illiteracy has reached the point where you can't even get acronyms right...
A game set in the old west is violent, sexist, and racist!? But, but, that's not what I learned! Everyone back then was an honest and upstanding good old boy, just like on Bonanza, right? Fucking eejit...