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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2013
- A woman is seeking to be enlightened asks Rupert how he can go about finding enlightenment. He explains what it means to reach enlightenment and how you cannot find what you already have, what awareness is and what she should be doing in seeking enlightenment.
00:30 The frustration of seeking enlightenment
01:35 What is enlightenment?
02:00 Is Enlightenment an event?
05:00 How to find enlightenment?
07:30 Being the presence of awareness
10:15 The illusion of seeking enlightenment
13:00 Does Awareness recognise itself?
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I have watched, listened to hours upon hours of spiritual teachers but this has to be one of the best explanations of enlightenment/non duality I have heard and have watched it repeatedly mainly because of the peace that comes upon me.
Yeah, I have a spiritual master already, I just discovered Rupert Spira and this video is taking me into the Buddhafield.
The thing new for me with Spira is his anologies are really insightful
Same
40 years seeking! 40 years! I can't imagine looking for my glasses for 40 years only to realize I was wearing them the whole time.
good analogy
Pls subscribe to my channel guys namaste
The biggest roadblock to enlightenment is not knowing what it is. Enlightenment is basically the isolation and amplification of something that is so familiar to a person it takes years just to believe it really can be "THAT". Something that has been with you ever since you were a child and something everyone has. You don't need to clime a mountain or pay anyone anything for it.
@@guidedmeditation2396 are you enlightened
@@yamdagni Everyone is. People just think they are not, that makes them to chase something which is their true nature. It's like dog chasing its own tail.
The more you try to catch it the faster it goes away😄
Its so simple and its nothing. If you try to think about its already gone.
Its even stoopid to talk about enlightment. It only create mental consept that people adapts and then start chasing.
A must see video for people "seeking" Enlightement in my opinion. Only after watching this I realized I was looking in the wrong direction. Before, I thought I had to get rid of all my negative traits in order to reach Enlightenment like it was a standard that had to be met by me in order to attain It
Amazing how Rupert explains this. What a gift.
I know :)
He’s definitely been through this, we love ruperrrrrrt
Kevy she just needs to relax. She has so much energy but it backlashes around her. She’s just like many who think they know. Her ego is strong in the way.
Rupert has amazing gift of metaphors. Glad he is here and now.
He looks deeply sad for a long moment before he answers. Though she laughs, she is also clearly deeply sad. This is tragic exchange in a sense.
''I am not a cluster of thoughts and feelings, all these flow by. But I am not flowing by, I am just always here.''
doesn't help a damn thing
Have u read Being Aware of Being Aware by Rupert ?
no, I'm sure it will be paradoxical and meaningless, just like all of this tripe
Ok
CHAOSDEATHCULT
It’s meaningful beyond what we presume. Simple see yourself- the eye that perceives all, perceiving all.
I fear I would not get it either if it was explained to me in the same way. So here is how I actually figured it out with the help of Alan Watts and Mooji teachings and doing what they recommended. First I came to learn of the etymology of words and what they were really meant to mean. I think in language so I should have an innerstanding of these words to think exactly and clearly. 1st great breakthrough was Alan Watts speaking about the word "Person". It was always meant as "per-son(na)" which from Latin means"thru-sound", referring to the masks with mini megaphones the ancient Greeks wore in their plays. These masks identified the character the actor was to play. Made me understand that my person was just a role I was playing in life and just a mask I was wearing and could change. I realized my person(ality) or `mask`` was formed by my thoughts about experiences I had gone through. I was a blank slate when born and I got imprinted by my parents conditioning, school, language, media and all sorts of propaganda. 2nd great breakthrough was thoughts and mind. Thoughts are just something you think and mind is bundles of thoughts. Thoughts are correct or false and always changing in my bundle of thoughts mind. Thoughts and mind are two words which are really the same thing. So I noticed my thoughts that I kept thinking, formed my beliefs which made my ``mask`` of this ``person`` I was identified as. So I realized further that my thoughts, mind, mask(person) were actually all the same thing. 3rd great breakthrough was that my awareness was actually different than my thoughts, mind, mask(person). I could separate my awareness from this group of thoughts, mind, mask(person). Wooji helped me with this and I could experience it in meditation. Awareness,consciousness is the root, foundation which can stand alone in silence without my --------thoughts, mind, mask(person) part. My pure awareness when meditating with eyes closed is silent and without images being aware of itself and everything, not engaging or focusing on any thought if they are to come. just being in a baby state being aware. This is my true ``I am`` that I was born with before any of the thought, mind, mask(person) bundle came into existence. This is enlightening to know. Now to live in this awakened state of ignoring my thoughts, mind, mask(person). Only soaking in awareness, going deeper in the silence and mystery of this awareness. Hope my sharing helps someone out there.
You are ABSULUTELY CORRECT. I too got clarity in steps as you mentioned. Pure Awareness I AM. Period.
You nailed it. Look into ramana maharishi. Indian sage. They all learnt it from him. Enquire who is asking this who is looking at it? Not mind not body just pure awareness
❤️🙏🙂
At 34 I had my real awakening. I dont need any master to guide me anymore and I hope everyone reaches that level. I still love listening to Rupert!!
Can I know your process to attain it? Sincerely asking, thank you, if you have time to reply
@@user-de6im7ng6g Direct path meditation via people like Loch Kelly (Rupert Spira too obviously but his "meditations" are just talking which is too easy prey for the egoic mind to play with and never let go enough to recognize what you need to). And then use progressive approaches as a back up and to train focus to aid in perceiving the nature of mind.
For me it was extreme suffering that cracked my ego. It could no longer sustain itself. It’s ridiculous how obvious it is 😂😂
@@satan96ell75 how did you do it
at 04 I had my real awakening. I dont need any master to guide me anymore and I hope everyone reaches that level. I still love listening to Rupert!!
What a gentle, clear presentation. Thank you, thank you! The questioner is a.good representative for us all.
Thank you, the analogy of the screen as consciousness and the movie as one's thoughts and feelings is very helpful. The woman who asks the question is very courageous.
I agree! This analogy helps me so much. Whenever my mind or emotions are disturbed I realize that I am caught in the movie that is projected on to the screen when in fact I am the screen (pure, empty, awareness). This always brings me home ❤🙏🏼
I just stumbled upon this man and his teachings a few days ago. I wish I had found him sooner!
Awesome
We are always right on time, I am grateful for that awareness!
Rupert - Shunyamurti - Phil Langdon are the best spiritual teachers I've found - and - Ken Wheeler (for ancient metaphysical knowledge)
Oh and John St Julien Baba Wanyama is also excellent.
Me too. I spent too many years exploring other paths and spiritual methods.
It is a difficult thing to describe. I was in this situation until a couple of months ago. I was being the seeker. I believe this is what this lady is describing. Yes, it is very frustrating after many years to be still waiting for "Awakening" or "Enlightenment". Helen Hamilton helped me realise that I needed to let go of the seeker and realise that just what I am is the awareness. I wish this lady many blessings and that she has now realised that she is the awareness that she seeks.
What I realized watching this video was that my entire journey of enlightenment has been motivated by dissatisfaction with illusion. I keep trying to get rid of it, to make it pleasant, blissful, peaceful.
I am beyond pleasure, bliss, and peace - is what I realized also. But it is a frightening experience to let go of that which I’ve kept a tight grip on my entire life.
Surrender is far more terrifying when you realize what it truly means.
What helped you?❤
What you're saying makes perfect sense and is easy to comprehend by someone who went through "shifts"... But there is another way to address this situation, much simpler, closer to the truth and that easily escapes those "inadequacies of language".
Enlightenment is nothing else but maturity. It's remembering the Light and the Love that we are, throughout our lives. So we are all enlightened to a certain degree, and we can easily get a sense of it simply by going back in time and seeing the shifts that actually happened. For instance, just take moment to remember an irrational fear from childhood (the monster under the bed, the dark, etc...). Today, that fear is no longer there. You've outgrown it, you matured out of it... So there you are : enlightenment is the absence of that fear - the absence of what is not.
Thus the answer to that lady's question is : you are enlightened as much as you can be at this precise moment but you've just never been taught to perceive it the right way.
I love the honest conversation they're having.
'Don't spend your life trying to get rid of an illusion, it's a waste of a lifetime.' I need this tattooed on me somewhere!
So did you get the tattoo? :D
Tattoo it in your mind.
"nothing else can be aware that I am aware" ~ wonderful line!
This video is a work of art. The bouquet coordinating with the plush backdrop and the lighting are extraordinary …enhancing Rupert’s divine Beingness as he describes his own state of being present in total awareness.
When she says "I know" I lose it every time
what if she does know? She's been doing it for 40 years
She's been extremely honest. This isn't about courtesy or humility. It's about honesty and seeking. It's a genuine conversation, and she's trying to receive and also convey where she stands, just to ensure that he understands.
It's 40 years of seeking.
I cannot imagine the pain she must be feeling. Let's be kinder.
@@mrraamsridhar kinder to who? I like Rupert but sometimes he seems a bit to nice by letting people of the hook to easy.
Without consciousness, time and space do not exist; they appear within
Consciousness but have no reality of their own.
It is like a screen on which all this is cast as pictures and move as in a cinema show.
The Absolute Consciousness alone is our real nature.
~ Sri Ramana Maharshi
When he says "It doesn't really get any better than that" 😅😅 so true and freeing to realise this. It ends the pursuit of some imaginary revolutionary scenario and the constant comparison of this moment to this imaginary one.
Thank you infinitely. This video has crowned my journey. I watched it and after 5 minutes I realized. I saw myself. I realized myself
This video is soo accurate as rupert gives the guidance back to the questioner . it immediately shifted my state from body mind to Myself as awareness. Its phenomenal . 😁🙏🏼🙏🏼
Wow. Such an amazing way to explain, I was confused at first but its so crystal clear when Rupert talks.
Rupert makes it so clear, and gets to the most fundamental points so carefully, and concisely. So glad for this. Thank you.
The reason is : she is always thinking about enlightment i think.
Rest your thinking, just be aware.
She has the concept, now to experience it.
Who cares if the I thinks about enlightment, it is part of the movie you are watching. It doesn't disturb your awareness for a single moment.
Before enlightment is after enlightment. Nothing is changing. Everything what is changing for enlightment is not part of the so called "enlightment".
@Guru Amirite How to be aware of that presence ? I notice it at times but i cant feel it at times
@Guru Amirite Surrender is closer to end of the self than all the seeking?
Nice to hear somebody is speaking it out loud in a direct way. Thank's for the reminder.
Summarising all of rupert’s teachings:
When you ask yourself the question “am i aware”...you refer to an objective-quality less experience of being aware and a thought rises “yes”. If you stay with that experience after the thought (being aware of being aware),awareness gradually ,in time ,loses its limitations and the true nature of awareness will shine as it is .This process is called self abidance.
What intelligence, what love, what compassion. Beautiful. Thank you for posting.
This is so simple, yet so difficult to understand. It is difficult because it is so damn simple!!!
+Vytautas Spokas yes very true, if you finally understand it, you laugh your ass of because its so damn simple :)
+ॐ shanti So, uhhh guys/girls could you help me. I had an awakening experience. All the fireworks and books are about this one thing? I really thought I would shift and things would go into 5th dimension.. Is it bullshit?
I think everyone who practises has attained some kind of 'awakening experience'. The thing is it will also pass and we will go back to our ordinary life, and we will suffer again, but only this time we have some wisdom in our backpack. So the difference now is that we have an understatement of why we are suffering and we have some tools to help us grow in dhamma.
De Leftover hi ,
if you doubt it, it was probably not a real awakening.
what did you expereince?
Thanks for ur replies guys. I think it was not a real awakening. Or at least Not a full awakening. I was doing yoga, suddenly I got an enormous energy burst. It was like a lightning through my head from the right to the left side.. And it felt like a energy ball coming straight at me. My heart was racing and I heard a weird sound. But it was all very vague and for a very short period then i passed out or smthing. After this I had a period for about 2 years, with intensified anxiety and alertness. It felt like everyday a small part of suffering dissapeared. Now everything finally comes back to ease... Most of the unease stored in my belly came up with deep yawning sessions... I know this might sound weird. And to be honest... If someone told me he experienced this shit 2 years back, I never would have believed it. But still I feel some lack sometimes.. Now i wanna give up spirituality completely. Because I wanna get out again.. Have u guys had some simular experience?? And am I missing something??
I was reading an interesting article about this guy who made a doco about himself meditating every day for a year and he had people looking at his brain etc to see document the effects. He said that he wasn't feeling the love peace and happiness that the media and wellness industry seem to depict as the result of meditation but instead he was becoming what he called "discomfortable" meaning learning to be comfortable with the inescapable suffering of life. He said that what he learnt was that "life sucks don't take it personally"
He says "Put another way, until now, I’ve never known how to suffer. How to sit with physical or emotional pain and know that things will probably be ok. I was never taught how to be in a blue-mood and not force myself to perk up or reach for a temporary mind-numbing distraction. I was never shown how to deal with uncertainty, disappointment, loss, and (shock, horror)... failure. But through my mindfulness training I’m learning to be ok with all this and to notice the ever-changing nature of all that is both bad and good in my life"
"In a recent conversation I had with my teacher, Timothea Goddard, she rightly pointed out that life doesn’t always suck and that good things do, and often do, happen too. She amends the expression to say; “Life sucks (and sings). Everything changes. Don’t take it personally.”
Do you still remember the name of this documentary about the guy meditating everyday for a year? I really want to check this out by myself, inspired by what you've written here 😊
@@JessMaccainHe quoting sentences from the articles that you can google
Thank you for sharing
Great idea and I've indeed found it. Thanks!@@RichardWilliamDamien
Im tell you guys,, this guy really knows what he is talking about... he has a special way of explaining this. I fully 100% get it.. and yes for those that get it... yes even what i said is just a happening of the Pure IS of AWARENESS
Awesome. For me, close to an event, was the first time I noticed feeling lighter, not having carried around the heavy sack of past and future for almost a week.
How direct , yet so understanding and kind with this woman.
Trying to get rid of the ego and trying to be enlightened is the biggest ego trip going. 😂
It can't be any other way. A butterfly arises from a caterpillar that knowingly cocooned itself up.
@@drygordspellweaver8761 and yet, “trapped” and “trap” are one. Nothing strengthens the illusion of a separate ego than trying to get rid of it.
@@chelseaburton7063 That's just nonsensical new-agisms you're parroting from 'gurus' you've heard online or read about. Anyone with the slightest notion of common sense understands that we need an ego to function in this world.
They want you docile and 'egoless' so you vegetate and get nothing of worth accomplished. It's working perfectly so far don't you think?
@@drygordspellweaver8761 nobody is saying anything about walking around in a totally blank state or without an identity or even that the ego is bad or something to get rid of. I certainly don’t feel that way. That would have been clear if actual curiosity about what I was saying was shown.
Instead of just assuming that what I was saying was “nonsensical”, I would have appreciated it if you had asked me what I meant first. I would have gladly taken the time to elaborate.
Also, you can’t get rid of your ego even if you wanted to…because it doesn’t exist (and who exactly would be getting rid of what?). How can you get rid of something that is smoke and mirrors? Trying to will do nothing more than strengthen the illusion that it exists. Seeing through the illusion doesn’t make you forget your name or your phone number or the role you play.
@@chelseaburton7063 Why would I be curious about what you are saying? LIterally every cookie cutter guru-in-a-box says the same thing with swarms of 'devotees' mindlessly parrotting their every word in a braindead trance. There is zero wisdom, gnosis, knowledge or experience in your words. There is nothing new or novel in what you're saying. You need to learn from me- not the other way around.
Saying the ego 'doesn't exist' is as meaningless as saying the body doesn't exist. Do you not have to eat, piss and shit?
Beautiful pointer
"Look for that which is ever present in your experience, and just stay with that."
True bro
Her problem is ego. We just need to watch the ego with our awareness. Knowing it's only ego and not actually us.
I appreciate how honest she was by the way. Thank you
"enlightenment is a fantasy name for the most simple, most ordinary, most well known experience there is and all 7 billion of us know it, however because it cannot be found by the mind in most cases it is deemed missing and as a result of that the piece and happiness that are inherent in it are also considered missing, and hence the imaginary self goes off into the world in search for the missing piece and happiness and as we all know, it doesn't live their. It lives in the simple knowing of our own being. Its knowing of itself."
* peace
Robert L. ;)
yep. the poor mind, always searching for his glasses which are already on his nose. just being overlooked all the time.
@Void Null look up "loch kelly" on youtube and watch his pointing videos. he's one of the few teachers who not only points you to "the spectacles", but shows you how to bring what you see into daily life and emotional integration instead of spiritually bypassing. he has plenty of these czcams.com/video/htltgBkhwOc/video.html check out his audiobook "shift into freedom" if you like his videos.
utterly beautiful! thank you to the questioner and to Rupert for answering so simply and powerfully. in love & light ~ peace
Look for that which is ever present in your experience.
And just stay with that.
Be with that.
-enlightment is not a marvelous event.
-enlightment is when you recognize the screen in the movie. And the moment you recognize
-you never ceased to be present, the screen. Awareness.
-awareness is like empty space.
-problems is the resistant of current experience
-awareness is already the light that illumines all experience.
-your atention flows bsck to its source
Its like looking at the watch and thinking and imagining about time. There is no time in there but we are just staring at the watch. Amazing video by the way.
I know I'm awareness but am still waiting for this peace to come. Right now awareness feels like nothing.
Abiding in awareness is peace and happiness.
"Take your stand right where you are". Excellent.
Those people make the best questions ever. Seriously. It is so educative!
Then Rupert took off the microphone, dropped it on the floor and walked out of the room. And the lady got enlightened.
13:40 that right there, hearing that tonight turned me so inside out, the laughter and tears came flooding, my whole body seemed to dissolve and I felt dizzy. As my wife struggled to understand what was so funny that I was nearly hyperventilating, I said "We have just lost cabin pressure" which seemed to be even funnier to me. I had to repeatedly tell her everything was ok, I'm ok, I'm not on drugs, I haven't gone crazy, I'm just trying to regain my sense of self after having totally lost it! It took me almost an hour to fully recover.
"We have just lost cabin pressure." 🤣🤣🤣 That's hysterical.
So I don't know anything about the actual person who is the questioner, outside of the 19 minutes in the video, so this is just a guess...
But I notice that every time Spira gives a really excellent explanation, she will answer "Yes, I understand that more and more, but ... " and then say something else that clearly shows that she does NOT understand.
So, her main obstacle is likely her egotism that she "understands more and more" (which she says several times). Thus she is basing he own self-esteem and self-identity on her spiritual knowledge. This keeps her from acknowledging that she does not know anything, despite her years of involvement.
But the necessary second half of "I am not awakened yet" is "I do not know anything". If she did both halves, then when he explained it to her, she could actually listen from a fresh perspective and actually see what he is saying. But she cannot see what he is saying, because she thinks she understands it.
(In Spirituality, one can only take one's self-esteem from being a human being - in other words, from the fact of being alive now. Period. If you get involved in "status competition instinct" - the instinct common to many animal species where one measures one's position relative to others (a "pecking order") - then that will prevent you from practicing spirituality. Thus, if you imagine the person out of the 7 billion who is the lowest in status, then you cannot base any aspect of your self-esteem or self-identity on being above that person.
Any feeling of emotional desperation, because you perceive you are low in status, needs to be examined carefully, calmly and rationally, and then dropped.
TheKstuart nicely said. 🙏
Rupert's patience is amazing, the body-mind was annoyed asf when I was listening to this woman..
So funny bc all I heard was 34seconds and I knew right away this woman had an ego and that is why she is not awake.
In martial arts we say "Empty your cup."
So well summed up
Such a clear and crisp explanation. Now I don't need to wait for any lightening experience to get enlightened...!! I now know that I just need to withdraw myself from the scenery to the seer...!! Thank you...!! 🙏🙏🙏
By the way I love this video. This is the problem so many people have; they "know" the information, but they have not "realized" it in their minds. It;s like gathering all the parts of a car, but never figuring out how to put it together. The parts of a car are not a car. Only when they are assembled do they make a completely new entity that can change your life.
What a fantastic way of explaining! Thank you, Rupert; you are an extraordinary teacher.
I love this one. It gets to the heart of the matter beautifully. Thank you Rupert.
I watched this video a year ago. Since them I've watched probably hundreds of videos by multiple teachers. Today I found it again. All the talk of a separate self and waiting for a shift to happen had me confused too.This time I finally get it. :)
Good teacher ... very clearly spoken. I am in tune with his teachings thanks for posting !
“Enlightenment is a fancy name for the most simple, most ordinary, most well known experience there is and all 7 billion of us know it. However, because it cannot be found by the mind, in most cases it is deemed missing.”
I'm seeing him through a screen as well lol.
Crazy stuff right 😝?
lmaoooooo
I am really appreciated to the women who asked this question! I don’t think it can get any better answers than this. Thanks Rupert ❤️
i feel the pain in her voice. Enlightment, is it really needed ? Detachment, letting go, realizing the real you. Your awareness, your consciousness, the I am is and always been you. Find your center for you are not your thoughts nor are you the body. You are awareness/consciouness the spark of God. Namaste.
Love his explanation fantastic, better cannot be. He is a great teacher.
Such a wonderful explanation of what many of us are "overlooking" all the time, through our entire lives
Dear Rupert, I consider, this as the essence of entire knowledge on this planet about Realisation..... . You have bye passed the entire complicated routes on this planet about the realisation or as you said the over looked real indivisible Oneness appeared to be fragmented through the limited view.Thank you so much🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This video could not have come to me at a more opportune time in my Life. It replaces my looking FOR god with looking FROM god as I search for my authenticity. Thank you Rupert...
"only when she leaves the movie will I see the screen." wow. couldn't have put it better myself.
Like a mirror asking why it can't be what it reflects, the "I" (egoic mind) is what one becomes enlightened to, not enlightened with.
Can anyone give a better illustration to enlightenment?!!.. Dear Rupert, you are simply amazing 🌹🌹🌹🙏
It's a blessing to have spiritual teacher like Rupert. I understand the frustration the the questioner and I am also amazed how beautifully and clearly but firmly Rupert guiding her to the truth. I hope this had given her insights to find IT (which is always there as a background of everything that happens.
Awareness regongnising itsself isn't enlightenment. It's only part of what occurs. After this recognition, the attention continues being compelled towards all thoughts which cause suffering for the purpose of enquiry. This enquiry must be continued until the attention remains naturally resting as awareness. it's not enough to say, oh, it's illusory. Ask anyone. Enlightenment is not an escape from suffering, but the ending of it.
well said
Doesn't the suffering end, when you realize that you are NOT that suffering, merely the experiencer/presence/witness/watcher of that suffering? Of course you still have feeling, of course you still feel sad, angry, upset, but that's simply the Human "game"/"play".
Similar. I see it more like being an "Actor on a Stage" with knowledge that identification to thoughts create these "Ying and Yang" feelings and once you allow your true SELF to "shine through" you begin to only feel love and compassion (ie. empathy) not REAL sadness or anger. This leads one to being more blissful.
@@vonMeiser there are still feelings, or it's better to regard them as emotional experiencing. The labels like anger, sadness, happiness ect. are seen through as just that: the labelling of experiencing by the human mind that has been conditioned into that response by also conditioned human minds. And that how it goes on and on and on. But now you that you know that you are not your conditioning. You are out of that - Samara is Nirvana! No more rebirths for you! 😘
The question is, WHY we are in such situation in the first place to begin with? In other words, WHY we are if you will "entrapped" in such illusory state initially? Was this (for the lack of better word) "entrapment" or "illusory state of individuality" an event in itself? What were/are the reasons behind such entrapment? Again, in other words, Why are not we already 'consciously' enlightened anyway? Why do we need to go to such an extents to realize that truth that was always the truth? ...
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As a side note, the absolute reality by definition is ineffable (The One of Plotinus, Neti Neti of Advaita, etc...) hence it cannot be put into language and any attempt to do so is waste of time. So I wonder how can we as human beings (while accepting the ineffability of "THAT" which cannot be named, expressed or eve thought of) be so arrogant to think that we can know/realize/experience THAT without its blessing/permit/love? In other words, WITHOUT absolute Brahman's blessing and love and permit we CANNOT even begin experiencing/recognizing/realizing the truth and CANNOT become enlightened, does not matter how hard we try, period.
Enlightenment only exists at the present moment. Be aware
of the awareness in the present moment and just understand “it is just awareness
- nothing else”.
That conversation was awesome...it should be presented to all seakers of all paths. It shows clearly how overusing the mind is an obstacle: as Ramana Maharishi himself said " the thief can not catch the thief itself". The wayout for the girl - and to all of us - is to relax logic...even good sensations of " wow, I am getting there" come from logic...anyway, let's keep moving forward to find the place we have always been :)
9:37: I need to get rid of my separate self reenforces and perpetuates it (what you focus on expands). You're caught in this bind of trying to et rid of yourself: "I, the separate self, want to get rid of myself so I, the separate self, can experience enlightenment." You cannot get rid of an illusion, just see it for what it is (a movie on a screen, an illusion you're hypnotised with). To see this is to end this exhausting endeavour. Turn your attention to what's real, your true self (awareness, presence), which is not an object.
Reminds me Osho: Don't seek, don't search, don't ask, don't knock, don't demand - relax.
So clear and perfectly explained, thank you so much Rupert 🙏🏼❤️
I can relate to this woman, I was also looking for an experience to return in my meditation. It took me a long time to let that expectation go.
Just be one with The Light for you are a light-being. Just "Be". This is a wonderful video with such simple example. Thank you so much. danke
Many thanks! The analogy of seeking enlightenment as, wanting the story in the movie to change instead of just simply watching the screen, was beautiful.
Spira gives you an analogy, what it is an analogy about, and how they are inter-related. In Koan study, the teacher only gives you, say, how they are inter-related . . . and you have to come up with the analogy and what it is an analogy about. So, for example, an equivalent Koan for Spira's analogy in this video might be something like: "In a movie, what is it that you both see and don't see at the same time (?)"
No less than the venerable Advaita sage Nisargadatta Maharaj said Enlightenment isn't an event and the realization of THAT in itself is an expression of being enlightened. And why? Because one has then stopped "materializing" Enlightenment in the way the woman questioner in the video has yet to do.
kwixotic The problem might be in the story of the Buddha. But such allegories are meant to present a grand idea to less literal thinkers but such may be difficult to explain to the mind of a realist before s/he learns to see beyond the pale of indoctrination and habit.
A grand “Aha” moment might be a better way of explaining it to many Western thinkers.
Maybe the Buddha story should be explained as a fable or presented as an apologue, first. For some, then when the story is studied, it might make more practical as well as spiritual sense.
If one has true peace, more likely will there be the sense of enlightenment. Enlightenment might also be like the sun; not always fully up.
‘Materialising', kwixotic (quixotic😇) , is a wonderful way of suggesting it.
Namaste and care,
mhikl
That movie and screen analogy was very insightful as to why we cannot reach enlightenment. Makes me want to take up meditation.
The essence of almost every kind of meditation is that: ” whenever your attention distracted due to an illusion and as soon as you notice that, you calmly return toward the NOTHING or AWARENESS. These distractions by illusions and come back from them to attention repeat again and again”
I think this teacher says somehow similar thing: Distraction from screen to the movies….
Sometimes we r searching for something we already have!
Stop seeking! Don't go to the next youtube video/book/teacher looking to find more knowledge. Knowledge is useless in this endeavor. Awareness just Is, there is nothing to look for.
But isn't seeking essential for us to realize that we don't need to seek anymore?
Seeking is a part of it. Some knowledge can be helpful to prevent becoming trapped by false expectations of what enlightenment is (it is really ordinary, but still a significant paradigm shift). But after we realize that awareness is everything what other knowledge is needed? So then seeking should shift more towards contemplation, seeking the answer to the question "who/what am I" in direct experience. Seeking is less about adding knowledge and more about peeling away the misconceptions. It is a process of subtraction not addition.
We seek until we realise "seeking" also a scene of the movie. Then we no longer seek, we continue to watch the movie knowing that "it is just a movie" and we more and more see the screen instead of the movie. Problem is ppl don't know they are watching a movie, they think they live in the screen and they create the scene.
Yeah just relax
nice tought but tought is still tought
The struggle of the ego to pretend to not get it and doubt the simplicity is so loud wow. Truly a lesson for all days. There’s nothing to do there’s nowhere to go. Just be. Here. Now.
This is perhaps the most important spiritual talk that has ever been recorded!
Absolutely brilliant and clear.
“Those who know do not speak. Those who speak do not know.”
― Lao Tsu, Tao Teh Ching
These are different times. Now it is time to speak. The humanity is ready. Is ripe.
@@emendatus1 I agree with J. Mabel. Pure Consciousness is beyond time and space, cannot be described in words, but one can help one through personal enquiry to go in a direction of self enquiry. R. Spira does it very well. '...That which is beyond Understanding....' (Jesus Christ) Psychosynthesis is a Psychotherapy which does it extremely well.
Buddha traveled widely from village to village and spoke to his disciples for 40 years after his Enlightenment!
Splendid Rupert!!.
The thing dear Rupert is that the awareness cannot be aware of itself if the buddhi is in a state of delusion.
That is why we have to practice a lot and with determination until the buddhi becomes pure and steady in order to reflect without distortion the light of awareness.
In that state the buddhi loses its apparent separation with its source (consciousness) and nonduality becomes a fact and not an intellectual speculation.
True Advaita.
Looking for Answer , is the Problem. Life is not a problem, so don't look for answers
Life is a game.Play it.
You got it !
This guy is talking about the enlightenment that Lord Buddha (Theravada) really said where majority of the Buddhists can't understand or witness. This guy seems to have really achieved that.
Light means both illumination and a way of describing weight. To be enlightened then both means to be illuminated, or made aware of what was previously hidden from you, and to be relieved of the weight you were carrying.
So once the light goes on, the weight of yours and the worlds problems are lifted leaving you enlightened.
A Human Being is one who is actually Totally Free of fear, anxiety, suffering, confusion, alienation, addictions, envy, greed, jealousy, pride, anger, hatred, violence, bias, and prejudice.
Totally Free of beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, theories, opinions, perspectives, biases, prejudices, nationality, and identifications, which limit, color, shape & distort Perception, and therefore, prevent Lucidity.
Totally Free of the I, the me, the self, the observer, the chooser, the experiencer, the interpreter, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which is the invention of the past conditioning of the brain, which acts like an inner tyrant who tells you what to think, how to feel, and what to do.
A Human Being is one who actually treats everyone, without exception, with the same intensity and quality of care and affection that they would give their dearest closest friend, lover, or child, without any sense of division, separation or distance in daily life, once and for all, now forever.
A Human Being is actually Living Love, Peace, Joy, Truth, Creativity, Compassion (Passion for All).
A Human Being is actually Communicating, Communing, Connecting with everyone and everything in each and every moment of daily life.
To be Human does not take time.
It is not of time. It is not the result of time or the things of time.
It is not the result of any process.
It is not the result of any method, ritual, or diet.
It is not the result of any chemical.
There is no path to it.
It happens effortlessly and choicelessly...faster than the speed of light.
Moreover, it is once and for all, now and forever.
I think the questioner should really be practicing some form of actual Awareness Meditation rather than intellectualizing what the process of Enlightenment is.
I agree
i appreciate her. their dialogue first gave me wobble then laughter when I realized I'm remembering a younger way of thought, not now
She should stop doing anything at all.
@@lepomirbakic4422 I assume that in your statement, you mean that the "you" doesn't get enlightenment or awakening. It's the letting go of the habitual need for something to actually transcend. Is that what you meant?
@@easyskankingdude To stop doing anything at all; do you mean that she shouldn't pay attention to Ruperts teachings? She shouldn't meditate?
Lady surely is asking to have that time where she knows her attention has gone on the screen. Rupert continually says that she's always seeing it - she isn't always seeing it it's there but she's not always seen it until she does do something and put a root tension on it and then there is a noticing of the screen - But that is an event? Surely
Incredible flowers. This is one of the best Rupert teaching vids, thank you
Incredible analogy🤯
When you discover your Self, you understand that it is always shining. It's so glaringly obvious but you don't get it until you realize it.
It became so obvious to me during my first lucid dream in 2007... and that lucidity carried into my waking life. Over the years that followed, it shocked me to learn that most everyone else who is allegedly lucid dreaming is still asleep; still thinking they ARE the dream body/mind, separate from the world. How can it not be so obvious to everyone? Awareness is the only constant.
can't become enlightened, you already enlightened. Buddha said, ignorance cause us to seek for it.
So much thank-you for this comment. Right on the money
Through meditation one can train to be more interested in the mirror behind the images. Normally our reference point for ourselves is the illusory separate self (ego). But through meditation one can begin to train awareness by resting in the act of perception itself.
You explained the unexplainable as well as is humanly possible. It seems for most people it's so difficult to "understand" that those thoughts and feelings are not who they are, and are illusory,, especially with a lifetime of identifying with them.
A monk asked a ZEN master what is the first law of DHARMA?. The ZEN master replied, if I tell you, it becomes the second law. This is also the essence of enlightenment.
Can you explain?
@Matt Bowdler: This means the first law is pre-conceptualization. Anything said about it would be a conceptualization and hence not the real first law.
as I watch this video
what arises in me
is how fucking unhappy I am!
I truly loathe my life.
I hate it.
I've lived pretty much my entire life
with debilitating crippling paralyzing:
suicidal depression.
the only moments of happiness in my life
come to me in fleeting windows of relief,
that never ever last long enough.
my life is agony.
I am full of:
- loneliness
- rage
- regret
- remorse
- hopelessness
- guilt
- terror
- anxiety
- aloneness
Hang in there friend! Rupert is simply extraordinarily superficial! Life is tough if you have any depth to you. I truly like much of the eastern mysticism, however, they are missing the almost sacred value of suffering that is pointed to in Christianity. However, it sounds like you’re suffering enough! Hope you find something that lifts you up!
59 dislikes from people who still want enlightenment to be some mystical psychedelic experience and cant stand rupert making it sound so simple when it is.
I really enjoy going through the process with +RupertSpira as he speaks. Very clear, simple direct pointing. This is one of the best, of many of course. Thank you.