Hilary Duff paid zero

[@Charlesperalo]

And I’ve heard a lot of people go
“Oh, an electrician fixes a mall and doesn’t get royalties. Why actors?”
A lot of reasons, but one reason especially for child actors is it’s not like they can just go and get a normal life after this.
Gary Coleman had his family blow his money, so when he got a job as a mall security guard, he’d regularly get made fun of for it.
A 15 year old doing a TV show really can’t just go at 30 and work a normal gig.

[@sparrowwilson4514]

Also, electrician is a more secure job. Actors can go literally months or even years between jobs, royalties helps them to get through the leaner times. Not only this, but an electricians work isn’t making income. Movies and TV make money indefinitely, why should the studios get all the benefit of that additional income. The actors and crew should also get a share since it was their work that helped make the product. It’s essentially like buying shares in a business. You all get dividends.

[@dm3889]

@@ericecho5118and to add to that. They are not using the likeness of the said electrician to sell millions of dollars of merchandise either.

[@Aces135]

I guess they can the girl from wizards of Waverly Waverly place is a nurse

[@chriswhitlock6601]

@@Aces135​​⁠In all fairness he never said they can’t and even gave his own example of an actor working a day job so he wasn’t implying it either. He was saying the transition isn’t easy. Also, the more obscure they are the easier the transition will be. You can’t compare the girl who played the main character’s best friend on a show from a decade ago to Selena Gomez, who was the main character, or Hilary Duff, who was also a main character, and are gonna be recognized far quicker. Gary Coleman was also a main character hence why he was made fun of at his “normal” job as a mall security guard.

[@shamrock6008]

Because changing your last name ( usually stage names anyways) would be so hard. Hell, change of hair color and most won't recognize most famous actors.

[@ayomikunoyelami906]

Never let your parents be your manager

[@evanwilliams3725]

Unless there are Michael Jordan's parents.

[@katdujka4760]

Her mom was a stage mom…and wanted to be executive producer on almost everything . Her dad only supplied money for her acting classes and her move to Hollywood.

[@evanwilliams3725]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[@DiviAugusti]

Unless it’s Joe Jackson.

[@Alicebaby99]

this

[@JWill6969]

Child stars almost never get royalties. Its really fucked up. Josh Peck and the guy who played Ned on Neds declassified have talked about it a bunch.

[@eb4676]

Josh peck was never on Neds declassified! He was on Drake and Josh. 😂

[@JWill6969]

@@eb4676 Yes I know. Those were 2 separate statements. I was saying both of them discussed it in the past.

[@jerrygodeep4787]

@@eb4676he never even mentioned Drake and Josh either…

[@JasmineJ_]

A lot of them had their parents as managers signing them on to bad deals

[@JWill6969]

@@JasmineJ_ Yes but not getting royalties in live action kids shows is industry standard regardless

[@eragon400]

Jason Weavers' mom had the right idea when, instead of Disney paying him a flat rate to be the singing voice of young Simba, his mom asked for royalties. The dude is still getting residuals from that movie. That's how you manage

[@beefy45]

His mom had his best interest most actors parents only see the short game

[@TrueNovemberXXXVI]

Those residuals pay for him to be comfortable. He looked relaxed in the last interview I saw him in.

[@monejohn9973]

Facts 😊 Him and Steve arkell from the show. Family matters had smart parents to look out for them that way..

[@gowlerphoto]

All the money is on the backend. That's why you need great negotiators working for you, not Mommy.

[@TheSaiyanPrincess89]

That's fucked up. They deserve royalties for their work. What the hell.

[@theyJC]

I dont think Disney does allows it in any if their contracts

[@MuMu124]

All i learned from this video is never let your family make your business decisions for you. Hollywood is ruthless if you dont play by their rules they will bury you

[@ceterisparibus8966]

They canceled it for that reason?

[@stephonmanny7555]

And don’t be greedy.

[@stephonmanny7555]

@@ceterisparibus8966Disney canceled most of their shows at 65 episodes back then. They would just do reruns after that if not movies.

[@jonathang636]

From the video I only saw the Mother making a wise negotiation move.. Demanding 5 million for a movie making 80++ mill is only fair, considering also how low she was paid for the Lizzie series, it was time for Disney to pay up

[@vqbl795]

No. In this case, the mother made a lot of sense. The daughter was being turned into a cash cow by Disney. Meanwhile, they were getting peanuts and taxed for it. Even years after Lizzie McGuire aired, Disney continued to make money out of it. It's also probably a good thing the sequel about grown up Lizzie was cancelled mid filming about 1-2 years ago.

[@eon001]

Corporations are disgusting.

[@frgwyn3760]

No the mom is how tf you gonna turn down 3 million. Ungrateful and entitled celebs only get away with this because corporations are richer even tho they are the ones who have to pay employees and make have to take care of more finances than celebs.

[@foolsAmongstGhouls]

Yet we continue to fund them day after day after day after day

[@gummy5862]

@@frgwyn3760I mean if they were serious about the movie, Disney wouldn’t have shut down the project at the drop of a hat just for negotiating payment. There’s bigger problems in this story.

[@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp]

no they are not. they are in it for profit.

[@joseoctaviomorenorodriguez9541]

It's Capitalism for you guys.

[@whyphy2213]

Hilary Duff still looks good 🔥
My 1st celebrity crush

[@roofcollapse3668]

I was asked in middle school who mine was and people made fun of me for saying Hilary. Well jokes on them because she aged like a fine wine!

[@stillnotchill2560]

Eh, not for me I suppose. Never found her much attractive.

[@loganblackwood2922]

​@@stillnotchill2560You saying as a teen you wouldnt have bust dem cheeks?

[@Irequiresustenance]

@@loganblackwood2922whoa buster that’s a little far
I’m not disagreeing tho

[@brysonoduyela5779]

@@loganblackwood2922that’s a crazy question to ask someone

[@jbwolf4]

This is why you gotta negotiate residuals in your contracts.

[@RemyEdits]

That’s the problem. Why do they need to negotiate. Residuals should be a given by these billion dollar studios like Disney.

[@jbwolf4]

@@RemyEdits but they aren't so you gotta negotiate them. health care SHOULD be free in the US but it isn't so you should try to find a job that provides it. college SHOULD be free in america but it isn't so you gotta do well in school and try to secure scholarships.

[@RemyEdits]

@@jbwolf4 And that is why SAGG is on strike. Now studios are in a panic trynna train ai to replace human talent lol

[@jbwolf4]

@@RemyEdits yeah let them strike, i'm not against the strike hell i'm an actor myself. but just because people are fighting for those opportunities now doesn't absolve the responsibility to have had to utilize your resources back then. she was a draw, she should've negotiated residuals, but she didn't and she signed a contract meaning she agreed to the terms that were set. that's it

[@BOOShawny]

@@RemyEditsbecause no company is just going to throw money at someone. That wouldn’t be very smart from a business perspective. There are also a lot of factors when it comes to residuals. If it’s in the contract, you can guarantee it’s gonna be the lowest percentage they can get away with. Which is why you need an entertainment lawyer and agent to negotiate what they think you’re worth. But other things come into play when it comes down to how much you’ll actually receive from a residual check.

[@Bella-wz9xw]

they really should get royalties what the heck😭

[@Mimi-hn6iv]

Child stars really get screwed over.

[@emanymton713]

Royalties are negotiated they are never just given.

[@biggusy25]

Celebrities are not NEARLY as wealthy as you think they are. Many of them live in fairly small apartments and drive average vehicles. Many who appear mega wealthy are up to their eyeballs in loan payments and taxes. MTV Cribs rented mansions in many cases that most actors could never have afforded.

[@mynameisreallycool1]

Tbh I wouldn't even be surprised if most of the mansions we see those "Open Door" videos of celebrities showing off their homes on Architectural Digest aren't their actual homes either. It's all fake.

[@CaptainCat101]

This is why actors are on strike

[@TheQuickyouknow]

Because their mommies don't know a good deal?

[@ceterisparibus8966]

​@@TheQuickyouknowBecause you are arrogant and snarky?

[@TheQuickyouknow]

@@ceterisparibus8966 You're saying actors are on strike because I'm "snarky"?

[@darchangeldavid]

Wow her mom screwed her out of 3 mil. Yeah keep your parents off your pay roll.

[@JackMihoff6969]

they were going to cancel regardless if they accepted the 3M.

[@mel818]

nah she kept her from investing long hours of work for months and not being paid enough considering what Disney would make thanks to her. Any Lizzie McGuire project would make a fortune, so that salary' is ridiculous.her mom just protected Hilary's interests just like she's been doing her whole career.

[@whatever5922]

She ended up making much more by making music

[@Hoganply]

Someone didn't watch the video.

[@2Tall2ActSmall]

​@@JackMihoff6969yeah but even if the script was canceled once you sign that contract you are obligated compensation.

[@PyprSMASH]

Disney not paying royalties is so incredibly insane

[@nolasunflower]

They made 55 million and she only received 1million ?? And took home less than that?? Wtf ?????

[@DiviAugusti]

The mouse will have its due.

[@darkhighwayman1757]

They took all the risk in making it and putting it out. They get the lion share of the profits.

[@BW022]

Actually, they didn't make $55M. The 2003 movie was made on a budget of $17M. They also spend millions advertising it. It has a box office return of $55.5M. Half of that went to the theatres. So they only brought in about $28M. So, they made less than $10M -- depending on how much they spend on marketing.
So, you spend $55M and in three years, you make maybe 10% profit. And if the movie only earned $40M at the box office, you'd lose money.
And of course, Hilary Duff made $1M at the age of 16 on a single movie with only months work. She also published albums, did other movies, did TV series, etc. Well over 40 since 2003. She presumably made millions on those. The average American makes a lifetime total of $1.7M and she probably earned that by 20. She's well past the top 1% even as a child. Your average 16 year-old is working for $9/hour trying to make enough for save up for community college.

[@ikexbankai]

@@darkhighwayman1757these other risk that goes into making something besides money. Of course they should get the biggest share but do you really think she should get paid zero dollars from the over 100 million they made selling stuff with her face on it?

[@foolsAmongstGhouls]

Yeah, fuck disney

[@gerarduspoppel2831]

Remember that 15 years ago. was worth $120,000 more than it is now

[@Loveisfun123]

She’s the blue print for Miley, Selena, Demi and everyone else from 2006-2011. Singing, acting, etc.
I don’t think Miley even made a single dime or barely anything from Hannah Montana merch. Wasn’t the Hannah Montana brand a billion dollar brand?

[@bluz1864]

You are right about Miley. I was never her biggest fan but finding out she basically was screwed over by Disney as well makes me mad

[@LaserDroid]

That old George Lucas quote (2015, Charlie Rose interview) about Disney being 'white slavers' is making a lot more sense.

[@one-stopgodshop2171]

Nobody makes enough when a corporate entity controlls the purse strings.

[@cnote459]

She’s just one of those who successfully achieved her own ways without Hollywood too burden on her. It’s scary how these industry want to control and use people especially kids!

[@jhonnewell9522]

I believe it was your Drake and Josh video were you were talking about how Drake and Josh don’t get paid royalties from the show because they are children and there’s a law that prevents children from receiving royalties. In that same video you talked about how there was an adult in Drake and Josh, who only had three lines and to this day, he is still getting royalties off of that one episode because he was an adult.

[@SusieQ3]

If it's not in your contract to get royalties, you will not get royalties. A good contract lawyer would be a really handy person to have on your team.

[@1stMarDiv4341]

Robert Carradine has always come off as an awesome human being.

[@boysrus61]

Sounds like she dodged a bullet

[@whatutalkinboutwillis6122]

I knew someone was gonna get the shaft when I heard “Disney”

[@herpdyderpp]

Why parents shouldn’t be the money handler❗️

[@Beeduddz]

This is why people close to you shouldn’t be your manager unless they’re ruthless like Kris Jenner. Any manger would have told them they were crazy for not accepting 4 million on the spot for a sequel to a movie that was losing popularity…

[@nannadirtyknees1897]

So she made more than most will see in a lifetime and squandered it. Got it.

[@IvyHale151]

I was JUST thinking about how iconic she was, and how Disney probably has all her stuff restricted behind so much corporate bs! Knowing she didn't even get paid fairly at the time BOILS MY BLOOD
Disney needs to stop holding all of our childhoods hostage because of corporate greed

[@Iron-Bridge]

If you are a key part of an IP, remember to check that you've negotiated your residuals/ royalties, folks. ☝️

[@dix0n778]

Hillary Duff aged like fine wine.

[@kurigaru]

That’s disgusting and she should sue her mom for all the money she never got

[@beauvaisbunch5176]

She deserves better.. she deserves her royalties along with along of other people

[@SewerTapes]

Her mom wasn't a good agent. She should have got her a percentage deal.

[@randycrawford1132]

She made more as a child than most people make in their life and people are complaining, selfish

[@BOOShawny]

Yeah, and she worked for it? Haha If people want that kind of money too, they can try to become a successful actor, nobody’s stopping them. Haha

[@murigrim]

"Disney ripped me off" No, you made a deal at the time you thought was more beneficial and it wasnt. You cannot have your cake and eat it. As i always say, hindsight is the foresight of a gobshite 😂.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Never turn down a check worth more than $2 million.
That is a special kind of stupid.

[@mersinaire_2560]

I never watch the show but Im about her age and I’m pissed for her. She should have the bag by now 🤬

[@GeorgiaAndrea]

No wonder she said she didn’t miss Lizzie Mcguire.

[@TheyCallMeGator]

I swear Hollywood people are so egotistical (especially the ones who run studios)

[@michiahnaylor7476]

That's something a lot of disney and Nickelodeon stars complained about. The main stars of a show were often denied royalties.

[@Xoulrath_]

I might feel bad for her, IF she hadn't had a mildly successful career. Also, this "poor" actor who was ripped off still made more money doing that show than most people will ever see in their lives.

[@FC-hj9ub]

For a 13 year old 20 years ago that was a lot of money. They had no idea how popular it would become.

[@battles423]

I don’t get royalties from my job.

[@davidhernandez9474]

$3M NOT ENOUGH?

[@angelm347]

big networks aren’t there to benefits the actors. they’re only in business to make as much money as possible. why do you think they had a cartoon as her mascot? so they didn’t have to pay her for selling merchandise. greedy

[@hallahidaya2427]

That’s insane considering how iconic the film is to this day

[@ShawnMenchaca]

You didn't sign a contract for royalties. You signed for a payout only. That's what happens...

[@Scenemogirl666]

Not only that, but they had their own mascot, the little cartoon girl that they didn’t have to actually pay any royalties to in order to make merch from and that’s why she’s one of the only Disney Channel show that has a cartoon character in a live TV show.

[@Alexardelean89]

Grew up with her. She’s amazing . Her mom is an idiot. I’m sure she’s doing ok now.

[@JanineBrandywine]

$120,000 per year... as a teenager ...in early 2000's; wasn't a lot? Damn

[@Cardsmaster]

If the star of the show made no money imagine the WRITERS, DIRECTOR and PRODUCERS who made it happen.

[@asteroidkatfacts1036]

$120,000 a year isn't much for a celebrity but a ton for an average person.

[@Nirvezz]

Hillary Duff for Mrs. Fantastic!

[@BeeKee404]

It honestly baffles me how her mom is still in her life despite apparently hoarding all the money she's made growing up. I mean I guess she might've forgiven her mom and maybe her mom expressed regret but I don't know. I feel like a lot of people have shut their parents out for doing stuff like this.

[@TheHunchy101]

Thats the thing, we dont know that. We can only speculate

[@marcusmelancon3426]

So her mom stopped her bag should’ve just taken the 4 mil that was more then what they offered originally

[@savedfaves]

Gonna need a fact check on this one. Her house is stunning. She’s doing well for a pauper.

[@kennethh2366]

Yes I learned something. Poor Hilary. She deserves royalties

[@savvyshelly3983]

The royalties thing honestly doesn’t bother me that much that the actors don’t get any of it. The company behind the show existing, the company that makes the merchandise, the stores they’re sold in, and the advertisers all have to get paid from those sales.

[@LOLOspeaks2733]

I've seen her driving around LA. How is she making her money these days?

[@haunterdragon4580]

Childhood crush and holy crap she deserved more.

[@kansasgoldilocks]

How do they get around child labor laws to let these kids have an acting job, yet these young working people can't make royalties on their own work?

[@windycitywarrior71]

I wish I was making money on work I did 20 years ago.

[@ryanll7312]

This is why unions exist.

[@adamsmoberly]

I’m going to be honest, I thought her mom was kind of mean for turning down the second film due to money…but I mean she was getting no royalties for Lizzie McGuire, got a mill for the first film, I personally think Disney, in the early 2000’s could have given her 5 million; that seems viable.

[@MrKdogg211]

I bet she would have a lot of people on her side if she came out against Disney

[@Dangansona]

That's horrendous

[@amandahayes5874]

Either see stars or dollar signs. It’s clear that her mother saw stars.

[@Healthierme997]

Still not crying for her

[@mariesantiesteban3067]

You cant be mad when you AGREED to make that much

[@bofawhatsbofa4593]

“noT a lOt oF moNey”🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

[@mynameisreallycool1]

For someone who was one of the most famous teenagers in the country at the time and starred in a massively successful TV show, it's not a lot. For doing that much work, you kinda deserve more, but I get what you mean. Obviously Hillary was/is far from broke.

[@gipsyundead]

Ask her mum where the money is

[@dilldirk284]

I’m sorry.. she’s just the actress she didn’t pay for the studio time she didn’t pay anyone she got paid big difference 😂😂… when I go to work I don’t get paid for the items I sold 20 years ago

[@twilightknight1986]

Man, I feel so bad. She only made 300k per year and then 1 million. Truly unlivable and unfair…

[@daisy-wt9pd]

Oh boo hoo. Hilary is still better off than most people.

[@Shazzyhtown]

Mom was an subpar manager. Should've negotiated better 😢

[@TheHEROFamily]

That's not on Disney. That's on the artist. They didn't force y'all to sign those contacts.

[@debphelan-devon7928]

That's disgusting especially when a new generation loves the show

[@Alicebaby99]

I hate the system

[@sincerelybrissa]

That’s still A LOT more than many teens her age or even overworked corporate managers make… sooo…. If you were to ask me I believe she still had it pretty good

[@goddessravenlovelife7452]

Lesson always negotiate better deals once you’ve got leverage including a share of image and royalties from merchandise and box office

[@confusedindividual]

I feel like royalties should be the default method of compensation for entertainers unless they want to negotiate a flat fee. It’s a bigger incentive to put out the best possible product. Once people get a guaranteed number in their head, they’re basically incentivized to give the bare minimum that they’re contractually obligated to give just to get the payout.

[@samk2266]

This has to be wrong because he didn't even mention her cloathing lines like 'Duff Stuff' and a line of Perfumes, there were many other gigs that she got paid for & her parents are already rich in the 1st place, that's why she turns down $4mil because she's more concerned about her brand and a dud movie hurts that. He didn't mention her concert tours in which tickets were very pricy and she filled arena's. The entire time during the 200X she was living in a huge mansion in talouka lake and then she bought her sister a nearby house just so they could both have their own houses-right next to each other. no indication that this supposed lack of income prvented her from buying whatever houses or cars she wanted.

[@oshl4387]

Mom fumbled the bag

[@OniChar]

Main cast doesn’t get royalties usually never

[@PoliteTia]

Disney has that reputation of harsh treatment towards child actors! It their meat and potatoes. Moody was smart to break all ties with that corporation.

[@paniclogic5109]

Hollywood is trash. Solidarity for workers ✊🏼

[@thewebstylist]

Thanks Mom!

[@shadejustcant]

should be illegal

[@jenb.6733]

That’s awful. Disney is getting their payback now

[@HSG1999]

Child actors don’t earn royalties, for some reason it’s only for the adults.

[@jaimeerobertswarz]

I would also add to this she had a very successful music career. So she gets royalties from that thankfully! ❤

[@kidnplay3978]

🗣 AND THENNNN .... DISNEY HAD THE NERVVVVVVVVVVE TO DO HER DIRTY YET AGAIN BY SCREWING HER OUT OF THE LIZZIE MCGUIRE REVIVAL, THAT WAS INITIALLY THE ENTIRE REASON I GOT DISNEY + IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!! ANNNNNNDT, IF YOU CAN'T ALREADY TELL, STILL PISSED DISNEY!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@MandyBrookeOfficial]

THIS IS A SIN!

[@UnderTheBridge96]

Only made a million dollars. Gonna spend my lunch break praying for Duff 😅

[@BlueLightningSky]

Child Actors is just child labor. So at least pay them properly.

[@TheQuickyouknow]

$4M ($6.6M inflation adjusted) is still better than $0. Someone gotta teach actors to invest. Stop relying on residuals. Take the big upfront and invest 30%.

[@wolfganggraham2165]

Its the contract she signed

[@realjohnlove]

Corporations being corporations

[@ethankillion786]

This is why the writer/actor strike Mattars

[@robertk2007]

Married to a hockey player helps