Too Many People Want to Travel
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2019
- Tourism has surged in recent decades, causing large-scale environmental degradation, dangerous conditions, and pricing-out locals at major tourist sites. In this episode of The Idea File, Atlantic staff writer Annie Lowrey explains over-tourism and what we can do to fix it.
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"As a tourist, I hate other tourists"
I’m from a very tourism based city, and 75% of them piss me off. So, when I travel, I make a point not to be a nuisance or cause any damage. Most people arent like that.
From your perspective, other tourists are the problem. From locals point of view, you're part of the problem. Getting invaded by millions of tourists really suck. Even if you're well mannered, you're still taking up space, resources. you're overcrowding our local parks, you're causing traffic jams. We're just trying to live our lives but no matter where we go, we can't do anything without being burdened by tourists. No we don't want to move away . This is where our families are and have been for generations. This is where our lives are. /bitter local
@tupacamaru2 That's what the majority of people do because most of the world's population don't have the financial means to travel abroad and/or are chronically ill. I've heard people saying that one has not truly lived unless he/she has travelled the world. Are you one of those shitty people ?
@S Han yeah, only young tourists are shallow. That makes sense.
Some tourists are more annoying than others. I lived in two of the biggest tourist cities in the world and often had trouble just getting to work because of idiots holding up maps and taking pictures in the middle of the road. When I travel, I’m cognizant if those around me and don’t get in the way
Dating sites are full of people who say they love travel.
Ha, exactly what I said in my comment. Spend one minute on tinder and you see just how messed up this all is. As if the 'traveller' is a type of personality. They identify themselves with being a traveller, this all started when the term 'wanderlust' became a thing in instagram.
With your comment now I understand why so many of the chicks in Tinder that I see are in exotic famous places.
It's become the new "long walks on the beach"
That’s what the matrix is ...STEREOTYPING... we are literally being socially engineered, and programmed to behave and perform and assimilate into a particular lifestyle, essentially the entire world is a national global cult, and we are all committed into performing and reenacting fantasy, all at the cost of absolute annihilation of all life...
"I like travel and food 🛫🌏" is the new "live love laugh"
The worst aspect of tourism is when people travel to iconic landmarks like the Eiffel Tower just to get instagram likes, or to just say they traveled there, and don't bother to learn more about the places they travel to, except for where all the best hubs are and stuff like that. As a result, these cities/towns/countries begin to feel less like real places and more like computer desktop backgrounds. These places obviously don't exist solely for tourists and while there is nothing wrong with wanting to see them, it's important to have a deeper understanding of the palces/people surrounding it.
I agree! I feel that many travel CZcamsrs travel to quickly. I want to travel, but I want to move to a country for a year or six months at least and learn that countries language, immerse myself in their culture. I'd want to move to a smaller city or town instead of the big cities / popular destinations.
I agree with both points here!
Responding to Selena's comment, I actually went to Japan for six months recently as a student in a smaller city away from places like Tokyo and Kyoto. You learn so much about culture and the people you talk to along the way. And by people, I mean actually meeting and taking to locals. Fortunately, studying Japanese as a student, I've been able to hold conversations despite the language barrier sometimes (I still have to study the language more 🤣).
But overall it becomes a fully immersed experience when you move away from the cliché path that everyone else takes ☺️
1717Dave Totally agree. The whole point of traveling is not only to have fun, but also to learn about their culture.
@@selenacruz754 this is exactly me
Experience! I dont want to learn anything. I want to experience and see beautiful things. I could care less about who did what and why.
That picture of an overcrowded Everest still gives me the shakes to this day, man
Shakes is right... SMDH
Why does it give you "the shakes?" The last time I had the shakes was when 5 people tried to attack me.
oogity-boogity woogity multiple people have died due to inexperienced tourists not being able to move forward fast enough. There’s video somewhere of a British mountaineering crew trying to get one of their members out in a medical emergency, but they were stuck waiting for over an hour at a single ladder because the tourists didn’t know how to fucking climb down.
@@Pantsinabucket Interesting. I didn't know that. I hope such tragedies are often rare though.
The irony! How don’t these people care that they are ruining the very thing they hold so dear? There’s nothing the solipsism of the human race will not gladly destroy.
It's really sad to see sensitive environments and historical places being destroyed by careless tourists. Tourism isn't essentially bad. But there are hiking trails and fences for specific reasons and going off-trail or hopping that fence for a selfie is disgusting, irresponsible, and often illegal. When you go to a National Park or similar place, listen to the rangers, learn the rules, and please be respectful of not only the environment and the people whose jobs it is to protect those places, but all the other people who came to enjoy that special place.
tupacamaru2 Yeah, there’s one rule that you never ever break in the US but not really anywhere else, walking through someone’s yard could a trip to the hospital and cemetery.
Those kind of tourists deserve to be shamed live on tv
It all points to a larger problem, too many humans.
Adam Z not true. Most ppl aren’t planning very well. Either they are traveling on a compressed time and budget or retired and can only do traveling limited to touring. If you really want to see the world do gas or mineral exploration. You’ll go everywhere.
Ok boomer
Still lots of room if you choose the road less traveled. Come on people be original, exploring is the real adventure
We Love to Roam it can also be dangerous too if you don't know what you're doing.
The purple penguin it doesn’t have to be though. We just think a little research goes a long way
We Love to Roam exactly, If you don't know what you're doing. Its dangerous.
You’re essentially asking them to be a human as opposed to an advertised-to hyper consumptive moron.
I moved to Italy 6 years ago. All of my friends want to come to Italy now to visit me, but then they make the trip with their friends who insist on going to the major cities and they end up asking me to meet them there jnstead.
When my friends finally do make it to my "big but not famous" city, they says it's their favorite it all of Italy. The no
1 reason? No tourists. 😜
(So it's the only one that feels athentically Italian out of the places they visited.)
Not surprising, considering there are so many people on the planet, and of course they all want similar things.
I wouldn't say that with traveling, there are many different types of travelers and experiences. There is nothing like traveling in this world, experience a culture and place you have never seen is unlike anything there is.
I love traveling, goal is too visit all 193 countries by 30 years old, then expand and dive in other spots tourist don't visit.
Tourism supplies many awesome places with income.
There are so many RICH people in the world, 20 years ago the middle class was 4 times smaller while the human population was only 20% smaller
@@Azknowledgethirsty True!
@@Azknowledgethirsty inflation
AllegedPhilo virtue signaling. Echo chambers. Tell me bout em😒
Nobody :
People in dating apps : i LoVe tRaVel
By people you mean women
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w I can't scroll past 3 guys without them doing exactly the same. Even if the pic is 3 years old, a guy will put it in to show he has been to X exotic or 'interesting' place
It's a ploy by women to deter men from trying if they're broke, poor, or have money, but live hand to mouth. Images of traveling are a status symbol and indicator of being able to lavish oneself (and their partner) with such expensive pleasures.
Or there are just a lot of people who legitimately enjoy traveling? I say so on all of my dating profiles. Why? Because someone who wants to stay home all the time would not be a good match for me!
@@huntstyle there's only two options?
I was convinced by Yuval Noah Harari's argument that tourism is a modern form of consumerism. Companies used to sell us diamond rings and tell us we'll feel better about ourselves if we buy it, now they sell us "experiences".
It's just one form of consumerism to another form of consumerism. We live in capitalist world. You can choose your own consumerism to your liking. Some choose fancy cars, house. Others choose exotic places to visit.
Just stop going where everyone else is going, problem solved
Fr there are so many underrated countries that are so beautiful. Like Tanzania, Nepal, Bulgaria, etc.
Yeah I just stay at home. I'm doing my part!
@@jmanners how fun
Or just stop going.
When ppl visit italy try sicily for a change!
Too many tourist in Venice. Wish they put a limit on the cruises that come
They already put an exclusion zone around the city. Let's hope that will improve things.
It's going under, who cares
@@danielstadden1149 A lot of people care, actually.
@@danielstadden1149 I'm pretty sure the venetians care
Venice is basically an art and culture Disneyland.
Machu picchu will be closed forever because of over tourism.
Was in Machu Picchu last month and shocked to see them building a McDonalds there.
@@eddenoy321
Da fuck? They really are building it?
Ed Denoy Are you sure? I didn’t see such a thing
They even have an Inca Warrior on the burger wrappers !
@@eddenoy321 you serious?😅
People don't really want to travel.
They want edgy Instagram photos.
if they only want photos then why bother travelling when they can just use photoshop
Hey maybe they want both, instagram is just modern version of postcards
I heard this somewhere on e and it rang so true to me.
"Lots of people aren't after the experience, they're after the memory of the experience."
I disagree. That's certainly true for some but as a traveler myself I can attest that most people travel for the same reason people have been traveling for centuries: curiosity. They want to take risks, get out of their comfort zone, meet new people, try new things, grow as human beings.
@@SomethingSomethingg share your insta and I'll be the judge of that.
I live in Berlin. When I want to travel (which isn't very often), I pack one my bicycles with camping stuff and start at the border of my city. Longest trip was to Sweden, but I am also fine with staying in my country.
My main idea of travel is sports (doing 100 Kilometer in 5 hours), simplicity (camping site) and as LESS PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
I don't get, why people are making themselves generic cloned slaves of Instagram and why they worship mass stupidity.
When I want to travel I smoke weed and put on some space rock, psychedelic music and that´s it.
I don’t understand the point of traveling thousands of miles to take a photograph with some landmark or monument, when a billion other people have already done it, and only to have someone see it, like it, or comment on it for like 10 seconds, and then that’s it.. it’s like they literally did absolutely nothing, but the irony is in order for them to create some crazy little 10 second fantasy, it comes at the cost of so much man power and energy and natural resources and generations of inventors to create the technology in order for them to do so.. life is so strange! And Humans are so ignorant!
Exactly. But when I say the same thing, I get called an ignorant American. (But this is usually always by people who don't understand true ignorance, or how their ancestors didn't travel everywhere all the time.) I know how the world outside is like, I don't have the money to travel, and I also don't wanna participate in the environmental harm. I can bike from home (Florida) to Alabama, and maybe catch a bus ride to Texas. I can have all the adventure in the Southeast. You can have all your adventure in central Europe.
Doesn't mean we hate the world.
@@Udontkno7
I read "Deep South" by Paul Theroux a while ago. The guy traveled half the world and than had the idea, to travel his own country, so he went 4 times to the southern states like Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi. It's a stunning read and it's quite clear. that he somehow left his country within his country. The USA are a huge and diverse country with many different lifestyles, but even in Germany you can feel quite alien, if you you're from the North and go to the South or the Eastern Side of Germany.
100 years ago most Germans didn't travel at all, for 90% of all people it was quite common not to leave their rural villages at all.
Instagram models want to make money off their looks. Travel is the easiest way to show off their stuff.
I travel often...via Google Earth, supplemented by reading and watching documentaries. I know it’s not the same as experiencing a place firsthand, but it’s a cheap, uncrowded way to learn about the world.
Random pro tip: you're the same person before, and after being a tourist. You are not suddenly a chick magnet, and you are not immune to falling off cliffs.
tourist maybe but you are not the same person after authentic traveling. if you are you're not doing it right
Addendum: Those truly traveling for themselves will be the ones who can grow and actually learn.
I actually write my comment wrong. I meant *while* being a tourist, not after. Referencing those tourists who get thrown out bars for being disrespectful with locals, and those who fall off cliffs, taking pictures in dangerous places they're not supposed to.
@@Gerolanfalan the cruise ships dumping out photo taking tourists have got to go, wouldn't you agree?
I disagree, people seem to think that if you travel you will get some sort of epiphany or “great revelation “ and is simply not true. Everyone to their own I suppose
"Buy now pay later" lifestyle is part of the problem
right, because wealth should determine who gets to emit more & contribute to over-tourism
@@TheDobbleD Yeah, it's not fair but it's a numbers game. The top 10% of earners emit less than the other 90%. When you make tourism available to the masses, you get massive environmental impacts.
Having said that, I don't think recreational travel should be limited to the wealthy but it certainly shouldn't be purchased through long-term debt.
COVID-19 just solved rapidly the over-turism
I was just thinking that. This will be the first year in over a decade I haven't been outside my own country
Not travelling has also become something people will shame you for. I don't have the travel bug, sure it looks fun and maybe I'll go to a couple of nice places during my lifetime but tell that to people and they'll act like you just committed a horrible crime.
People somehow think you're narrowminded and ignorant just because you're not a travel-crazy adrenalin junkie who wakes up in a different part of the world every day.
Travelling generally helps widen the horizon, if you interact with the locals and learn to understand the different perspectives on the planet. But is it required? No. Because there are global travelers who somehow remain mysogynistic, racist, or whatever else there may be.
Not only that but there are people who can't afford to travel. Not that we're lazy but we have other priorities to take care of.
It’s true, I once told my cousin I had never traveled outside of America and he went “wow that’s sad”... and I was thinking really? Not everyone has the financial ability to travel... I guess that makes me sad
Emad Ahmed that’s a very good way to see it 😊
I'm waiting for "Not A World Traveler Chic" to happen. You know it will.
HA!
Lmaoo interesting point
I’m already there
Me
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I will never see Joker stairs the same ever again because of tourists there
Panzer_Shafter, oh yes you will, the movie is new it will wear off quickly. Remember, modern society is made up of people with short attention spans.
@@JohannGambolputty22 Ah yes, we live in a society.
@@JohannGambolputty22 Ironic of a movie to criticize society yet society makes a trend out of the very film.
It is because traveling has become cheaper now, unlike before. Plus globalization increased the numbers of tourists too
@EMPEROR ITYOPP’IS Ž £THIOPIA yeah, that too
Its more like people cant afford new houses/luxuries that is why they travel because its cheaper. A form of escapism to avoid your stressful day-to-day work life.
Damn, people should really stop traveling so much..
Everyone else at least. Except for me, I love travel and should keep doing it.
Yeah we need to be honest to ourselfs. I have a good simple live. My dream is to travel to India. But ho iam i to do that when people have nothing to eat or can go to a docter
@@Margriet101 there are opportunities to volunteer in India. I highly recommend it!
@@sunburstrose7860 Sorry but volunteering is one of the worst form of tourism :/
@@guybrushthreepwood7612 if you say so.😄
Exactly!! Lol I always say that everyone should travel but just not all at once lol
So many people travel just to get the picture for instagram.
My daughter & I have tons of fun doing overnight trips within 400 miles from home. We take trains & busses whenever we can! ✌❤🌎
If people would actually mind to SEE, there is not much distance needed to keep travelling interesting.
I’ve always wanted to do the Amtrak train from Seattle to San Fran. I heard the views are amazing. If the news is right, they may be phasing out their longer routes eventually (they have to get approval from Congress). So, I need to get on my non-work train travel soon! Thanks for the reminder.
Renee S In most parts of the U.S. we don’t have that luxury, we have to use cars.
@@RamiroR13 Yes, is the same by me in Central Wisconsin. We like to go by train from MKE to ORD and use the busses in bigger cities. If nothing else, it's a great way to see more of where you're visiting! ✌❤😁
Renee S Yes! I live in Miami and we have to use cars here but when I visited Chicago I was surprised that there was actually functioning trains/buses and I used those to tour the city.
“They are very happy when we talk about individual responsibility” THIS. Global warming is not caused by the little people going on vacation, using plastic straws, or driving to work. It’s caused by the people at the top who force everyone to emit and refuse to wake up to how unsustainable the entire system has become. I’m happy he said that at the end, it’s the truth
we all contribute to a part of that. tourism being a aprt of consumerlism culture, its guilty by association.
its like if yhere where no rich pedophile, there wont be a supply for human trafficking of children, right?
I agree very much. We really do need to focus more on those things, the big fishes. That being said, it's still a good thing to create a system for yourself in which you create less waste, such as using your own bag at the store and using a non-plastic resuable straw. But yeah - if you do that and advocate for that and pay NO attention to the big fishes - you're not doing much on a grand scale.
We still have a responsibility as individuals and consumers not to hurt the planet. We still have a responsibility to give up plastic straws, recycle and compost, and eat less meat. Small contributions combined make an effect - and we can also tell companies we don’t want their products anymore. They aren’t just going to stop hurting the planet without pressure from us.
Stop blaming industry ... they never told you to fly somewhere or buy bottled water or anything. You do, own it and change or stop complaining it’s someone else’s responsibility.
Both parts have some of the blame. They may have more power overall, and maybe contribute a lot to the pollution, but of course what millions of people do on a daily basis will have some impact on the planet. People shouldnt be shamed for neccesary things like driving to work or anything needed to care for their own needs. But there are aspects that a lot of people can and should could do better when it comes to cut down on polution. And if you want the people at the top to "change the system" then we first need to thoroughly discuss what system should replace it. I think they should work towards it, dont get me wrong. But it has to work in practise
It’s all about getting the photo not enjoying the experience
Being a tourist that sees one of the world's wonders very rarely changes people, it is often a tick on their "bucket" list.
What changes people through travel is living in different countries, experiencing different cultures, making local friends and living a different lifestyle than the one you were born into. There is a world of difference between a tourist, who's usually in a place because it is trendy, or to visit buildings and monuments and travellers, who want to learn about the world, it's people and cultures, it's beauty and squalor.
I love the underlying pseudo-elitism here. "Too many people travelling" is like "too many people buying homes/cars", or "too many people getting degrees".
Yes it's amazing what happens when the masses are finally able to afford the privileges of the rich few isn't it?
it makes it a peasant activity though when everyone does it, now to show you are rich you DON'T post travel pictures because you are so rich you don't need to show anyone where you have traveled to (it's a secret and mystery)
Yep !! That's what I was thinking this whole video. So gross! I was truly disgusted by this video maybe a little too intensely but this comment sums up exactly what I was thinking in a kind way.
But it's true, there are too many people doing all of those things... because there are way too many people on Earth. And by 2050 we'll amount to ten billions.
In a way. But it comes at the cost of damaging those areas. And having lots of people in one spot does make it feel cheapened and commercialized
Well, there certainly are too many people getting degrees. Useless degrees at that. And more than half of them are in debt because they took gender studies or some nonsense or other...
Debt made over tourism possible.
So true!
Make mortgages subprime again
Over population made over tourism possible.
Nail on the head. We're gonna pay for this cheap credit and it won't be pretty
People arguing about over tourism when they themselves are traveling the world thinking about over tourism. These people on this video wish they had the world to themselves and hate others around them during their tour...
To be fair though, If you're ever been to a popular tourist location, the "typical tourist" is a rather obnoxious person and oftentimes a truly revolting person. Nosepicking, body odor, loud, obnoxious, and rude. Leaves their trash behind adn doesn't clean up after thenselves - a really repugnant person.
@@zackharris8334 I've been to Rome, Tokyo, Thailand, NY, to name a few. But saying "typical tourist" is your judgment. The video is about touristism being repetitively the same through IG selfies, over crowded, Airbnb and not having an experience to ones own.
The one thing I can say about a "typical tourist" from what I've seen is seeing certain people not adapting to a culture. Majority of the time is going to a place and eating American food vs. Local cuisine.
I've been to Venice in the summer and it was unbearable, the best places are the ones where tourist buses don't go to and that you have to search for to get there.
Use a bicycle.
If you're going to go Italy, go to the far South, Sicily area. Especially salerno, san vito lo capo etc
Hermanno totally agree! Nothing better than truly getting to immerse yourself in the culture of a small village or mountain town, getting to know the locals or customs.
Go in winter, there's not many people. It's a little cold but it's worth it.
I hate that now I have to constantly make sure me or my kids are not photobombing other people's precious selfies. Like I'm enjoying the view and I hear someone whisper, "not yet. Wait for them to leave" Ugh!
was in venice on a school trip, it was more sad than anything that there are no jobs there other than in tourism and how our tour guide talked about how the local population had shrunken since her childhood bc so many people had left, and it was so insanely over crowded with tourists i felt like guilty for being there, but it was almost paradoxical, it’s the tourism the ruined this place but they also rely on it now.
That's why I only travel to dangerous countries
Heehee I like to travel. You should take one of those basic travel bitches with you lmao show em what it's really like to travel
Europe and America can afford to think about these things because they have been among the richest for centuries. For developing countries they need every source of income and some of it is even a huge percentage of the country's GDP like Thailand who needs the income to invest in the other sectors. It's unfair for all the developed country suddenly pushing all of this when they did the same things decades ago when they were developing
Same thing with industrialization, but if we have no planet what's the point of having higher income?
I couldn't agree more
Europe and US got richer exploding unsustainable models and now blame other countries that try to do the same
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w So you prefer having them be forever poor?
@@DOCTORKHANblog I'm literally a communist so idk what point you're trying to make lmao libtard
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w "I'm literally a communist"
So I was right then.
The point mentioned at the four minute mark addresses the real problem. It's not individual travelers or flights, it's not a hiker taking selfies at a famous overlook which does the vast majority of harm to the environment. Its the entire system of consumption, energy production, and waste of resources that is doing the harm. Industries and corporations do whatever they deem necessary to increase production and profit margins, and we as consumers by and large support those efforts by voting with our dollars.
YES! YES YES YES! We are working with the national parks for our upcoming videos to help share preservation and conservation. take the proper steps to visit pretty places, learn about the do's and do nots... don't be a jerk, and all that jazz.
I disagree. It's the travelling itself. If 1 billion "individual hikers" are doing their "hikes" every year, it's still a problem. I believe in a more local system of travelling, where also the tourist don't change their destinations every year, but go to the same place year after year (like a small village in france), keeping environmental and social distortions low.
Yes but some consumers have more dollars hence more votes
@@moronsmorons8913 fascist
Coronavirus : HOLD my beer
Therefore go to other places where there aren't that much tourist.
Spend one minute on Tinder and you really see just how sick this whole 'I'm a traveller chick' thing is. People see it as their personality and it's fucked up because it doesn't mean anything. I think it started when the term 'wanderlust' became a thing on instagram.
Great point.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to experience different cultures and see the world.
It means a lot though. It's one of many experiences that build character
@@ravenswood118 There is indeed nothing wrong with it, but there is something wrong with purely identifying yourself with only the travels you've made and perceiving people who haven't traveled as much as you do as lesser. This is a real issue apparently.
@@colorfulcodes Everything builds character, traveling isn't some kind of shortcut for building more character faster, however, a lot of people seem to think otherwise.
“To be a mass tourist, for me, is to become a pure late-date American: alien, ignorant, greedy for something you cannot ever have, disappointed in a way you can never admit. It is to spoil, by way of sheer ontology, the very unspoiledness you are there to experience, It is to impose yourself on places that in all non-economic ways would be better, realer, without you. It is, in lines and gridlock and transaction after transaction, to confront a dimension of yourself that is as inescapable as it is painful: As a tourist, you become economically significant but existentially loathsome, an insect on a dead thing.”
David Foster Wallace
I'm a frequent flyer, and over the past ten years, I've seen an unprecedented increase in tourism. International airports and flights used to be half-full certain times of the year but are now running at 100% capacity year-round. I can't remember the last time I had a row of seats to myself.
@Cory R When you travel as much as I do, having an empty seat or two is a godsend. I don't demand it, I just appreciate it when it happens, and it's been happening a lot less recently.
@@jzakary1 thanks for flying so much and contributing to climate change! sorry about the lack of free seats on planes, sucks to be you i guess.
randomuploadsism 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I remember when flights in the Winter had almost no one on board just 12 years ago. If you asked nicely, and there were seats available, they would even let you move to business class. Try to do that today....
@@pscar1 try to ask if you can go in the cockpit today, a lot has changed
This is why I travel deep into forests wherever i go. Cities are all the same, nature is vastly different globally
Ever since tje pandemic those became the must visit destinations. Utah kinda sucks now.
A friend of mine has been to europe with his family every single year since 2015, they're $60,000 (USD) in debt just from travelling.
Well that's not very smart lol
Worth it to be honest in my opinion
You would think after each year that they would travel in a more budget friendly manner and learn some hacks tips and tricks.
But the likes on their photos! Totes work it bruh
"Vacation" today also means an extravagant trip overseas. NOt just somewhere in the same country you live, like going to a different state. People want lavish
I also travelled in my country cause my family couldnt afford to go overseas. You bet I want to go overseas now that I have the money
Some trips inside the country cost about as much. And they are totally worth it.
@@AR-zq9hq that depends where you live🤣
@@helenemaja0912 wherever you live, depends on the trip destination and the form of transportation
@The Mughal-killer nothing. My point is over tourism is happening in all these places usually western culture want to go , like Bali is hot right now. Instead of a Lake a few hours or states away
It’s good that you showed both arguments for and against tourism. I think travelling is overrated. Popular tourist spots are overcrowded, natural sceneries permanently damaged, leaves you tired and craving for more, and so called “authentic” local cuisine taste the same as similar dishes in your hometown. All so people can post in social media and brag “I’ve been there”!
I went to a museum in seattle and it was so sad to me. Just crowds of people taking pictures of every exhibit. Like hello experience something through your eyes. Learn something and move along. Also you know all the pics at museums are gonna be reflections of the person in the glass lol
Holy same. All my parents and family want to do is take pictures, I HATE TAKING PICTURES. if you need a picture for it, then it's not good enough of a experience, dont waste that fuel to get there.
Leia Jiang because looking back in 20 years on all the photos of great memories is just so terrible....sounds like you’re the one losing out
We have the ability to capture images we probably will never see again and we should just not use it.. just to live in the moment? Huh?
Let me tell you, as someone with epilepsy who has been stuck in hospital numerous times, and has seen worse off than me.. those pictures will mean so much
You’re so bored, depressed and sick. Looking through happier times is therapeutic
1/3 of people will have cancer and/or more other terrible illnesses, and laying in a hospital bed is not fun.
@Brianna Perez when you flip through those photos you will not even be able to see it well through the glass reflection!! The museum websites and channels on youtube offer a better view of exhibits, and also if you've got time to kill, books are a fantastic invention.
April Campbell so why don't you go outside and experience life instead of using CZcams? Oh right, because technology is a perfectly acceptable and valid thing to take a part in.
It’s crazy watching this post COVID-19 and thinking about the impact on tourism now and in the years to come.
Forget the economic pressures the people go through when tourism ends up "pricing out locals of their own cities". Out of control tourism also deteriorates the very fabric of social cohesion. Let us acknowledge the real tragedies people!
A hard to swallow pill: travelling the world does not make you interesting or worldly by itself
Lawrence Of Canadia preach!!!!
i went to japan and there were only me and my friends, werent really many tourists. perhaps because most of the places that we visited were old temple and garden. We were on a very tight budget so we went to free and public places and do activities like hiking and just plain old sightseeing, and yet still have that instagrammable photos hahahah
There's simply too many people on earth.
Actually we aren't that many, we just all live in the same places. The people of Siberia might not feel the same way about it 😄❄️
December 2019: Too many people want to travel!
Coronavirus 2020: As you wish
There’s usually something worth seeing and appreciating in our own hometowns. It doesn’t make much sense to me to want to see the world without first learning the ins and ours about my own home.
Well most of us have already seen our hometowns since most of us live in small little towns. We want more.
All these girls feel the need to take the same pictures they've seen posted on social media, and need to take 7 of each.
They're the meme gender
Yeah traveling is a funny thing. The more people that do it the less interesting it is.
Yep. People live, people do. You can't stop people from doing things. This seems just a little snotty to me.
But they could put limitations on how many people can visit a certain place at any time (by limiting income of transportation like airplanes and cruise ships). People should be allowed to travel, but all popular tourism places should put some limitation at the same time
@@zakosist Yeaaah. No. This sounds extremely controlling. Good in word, but not in actual motion. Local business that thrive on the constant tourism wouldn't do as well, and it would just be a large butterfly affect. Plus, people would find ways to go anyway.
@@sharkb970 Then tell your government to let any foreigner in :) Let's destroy every border, get rid of "countries" and just let everyone go to any place.
There's a huge stigma that if you don't travel, that you are missing out on life. You can travel, but you don't have to post everything about it on social media!
I now live in a place that most consider a vacation spot, so my brain still associates it with vacation. For me, it's just a matter of how much work I want to put into exploring new stuff versus staying in my routine. Living in a warm climate has not brought back any desire to travel to any place that gets cold, at least during the chilly months. I usually play beach volleyball two or three times a week, I dance and play drums twice a week, and that leaves me with a few days to either stay home or hang out with others. When I went to Chicago last year, I did the same thing, so it really didn't add much to my life; the long-distance relationships just tended to fade away. I am more focused on meeting friends locally than I am meeting people abroad. Maybe I would travel more if it related to a project that I am working on or if there was an event where I was to meet a lot of like-minded people.
Additionally, traveling can be overstimulating and if traveling with another person, the logistics is a lot of work. I don't like driving in traffic, I don't like the restrictions and how much time is spent at the airport, I don't like dealing with rental cars, or searching for hotels or restaurants. I am much more a person that likes exploring locally on foot or by bicycle, or by POV. I prefer making my own food and abiding by my own timeline. I often find more intrigue by reading about a person, place or thing, or by watching a documentary than I would if I were to just go there; that is, only when it comes to using a few of my senses to experience my destination.
Hi, you're watching why we are having a global coronavirus epidemic.
I am not on Instagram or Facebook. I have my own woodlot. I grow trees for a hobby. I travel mostly within my country, ideally in my own region. I am a very happy person.
Been saying for years if people couldn't Instagram their trips, would they even say they love to travel as much
As usual, the environemntal cost is high, but the finacial profit is high too. Guess which always wins!
Nice try guys, but im still going to travel
I now prefer to travel through my subscription to National Geographic magazine. I have a very comfortable armchair with good lighting, there is no line for the toilet, and the photographs don't have a bunch of strange heads blocking my view. If I have any questions or a deeper interest, wikipedia and the internet are almost as good as any tourist guide.
I literally finished writing a dissertation related to this on monday xD lol
I'd like to read it, share it over here if or when possible :)
Thanks for this awesome video Atlantic team! I never really thought a lot about the problems that tourism can pose to a place until I visited Paris for two weeks this past July. I fantasized about going to Paris for like 10 years, and the level of tourism there honestly ruined my experience. All of the national monuments and historic spaces were full to the point of causing me to feel very stressed and anxious - I almost had a panic attack in the Italian section of the Louvre (and I have NEVER felt this way in any other art museum in the world). In certain cases, such as the Louvre and Versailles, I couldn't enjoy much of the art because I was packed shoulder to shoulder with tourists taking photos of every single thing on their phones or tablets, completely blocking the art they were there to "appreciate." While I was there, I rarely had unique Parisian moments where I wasn't surrounded by hoards of international tourists, which honestly made the entire journey feel not as French / Parisian as I imaged. I left feeling super disappointed in my trip, and it made me reflect on the damage that over tourism can cause to a city. However, it's such a difficult topic because it truly is a privilege for people to be able to experience the joys of international travel!
Apparently this happens to so many people that now it is it's own "disorder" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
I'm 36, never really travelled and now I'm feeling a bit good about it. 😅
You should still try. Everyone should travel a little.
My last big trip was to Paris and London in 2012 after caving in to husband's wishes. I spent two-weeks counting down the days to getting home. The historical sites are much more entertaining and informative on television. My feet hurt, hard to find a toilet when you need one, tired of eating out. I do not understand the appeal of travel at all. I spend my vacations at home now and enjoy every second of it. Air travel is so bad now, it will take the death of family member to get on board again.
Christ, what a sad take. To each their own, I guess.
ok boomer
Alas, I highly doubt one can put the genie back in the bottle - pandora's box and all that.
Pandora's carry on.
That is why the challenge is to adopt more clean energies. Anyway that is the challenge if we want humanity to survive at all, not just tourism
It will take a while..after poverty has been eliminated and everyone finally realizes what they're doing. For now, putting a deeper meaning on our personal travel is the way. I personally want to help reawaken the curiosity of forgotten world history, but have also looked into voluntourism to help revamp places affected by heavy tourism
@@EclecticoIconoclasta humanity will survive. That's not the problem. The problem people have is that we ruin nature and everything that belongs to it. Humans could easily survive in a polluted world with much less life. Many will die ofc, but humanity won't go extinct.
The irony of this video coming out right as Corona was kicking off its world tour.
... I have to wonder what people do with the experience. I have an interest in Eastern religion so I'd love to visit some of their historical/holy places. Engage with people born into that culture so I can learn about it on a whole different level. Some of this shit seems really shallow though, like doing shit because you saw it on Instagram. -_-
people overall are more competent than you might think.
@@plowmanjoe I'm a skeptic. And maybe an asshole.
I agree. There's a difference between wanting to go somewhere because *you* found it interesting vs the other bullshit
Next, do a video about how people are too isolated by the internet social media and need to leave their house more often.😉
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ah, very true
I am not so sure about that. My town (Berlin) is overrun by 18 million tourists every year, there is no way of leaving my house without being confronted with stupid, drunk or drugged tourists.
That's not a small thing, I live here since 87 and tourism (and the net) killed all productive club culture, it's all about printing money now and not about doing unexpected things with a crowd, where everybody relates to a certain idea, feels safe and where the club is basically some sort of extended living room.
@@moronsmorons8913 So why don't you just move? Are you under parole or something?
These are only over tourism places that most “influencers” go to. Don’t want the crowds go to countries most people don’t go to. Try Paraguay, Uruguay, Kyrgyzstan, Bhutan, or even Eastern Europe, Africa is on the rise. Places like Western Europe and South East Asia are the only places people go to now a days.
Take care going Kyrgyzstan, thought.
S Han Africa is crowded with locals not tourists. And Kyrgyzstan may be busy with tourist but not over crowding and over tourism
Brazil is really out of the tourist spotlight also, excluding Rio and Sao Paulo. More people travel to Bulgaria than Brazil. Crazy given the size and vast natural beauty of the country.
When talking about flightshame you gotta remember that aviation is responsible for ~2% of co2 emissions.
Electricity generation is responsible for >30%,
agriculture 11% and manufacturing 12%
Those are some of the biggest ones we should be looking into.
Nuclear and molten salt heliostats are probably the best options as of now.
The largest fusion reactor project as of now is estimated to cost ~25B€ which compared to the >200B€ Europeans spend on Christmas presents each year isn't a whole lot.
Vote for politicians who further real climate policies.
Change must come from the top.
Electricity is a lot more neccesary though. In many places you need it to stay warm during winter. Its also useful to preserve food using a freezer (less waste is also better for the envirorment). And lets be honest none of us want to give up computer and cellphone, which have some practical uses as well, such as managing economy, searching for a job, arranging schedules, finding useful information, inform people if some unexpected problems occur, using you cellphone to call for help etc. Travel is most of the time solely recreational, and that makes it kinda worse. And it goes without saying that agriculture is definetly neccesary, and so is having a good enoough variety of food options if you want to have truly good health.
I can't believe someone can be this stupid: to act as if aviation being responsible for 1/15th as much as electricity production is somehow a defense of aviation... That's like saying drinking bleach is safer than riding in a car because way more people die in car accidents. Do everyone a favor and don't ever speak on statistics until you can get a basic grasp of how to interpret them.
Love how when they talk about different culture, all they’ve shown is Japanese culture.
I sold my car and bought a bike. I tourist around my city and state.
Good job with the #green.
Also WAY healthier!
Sometimes I don't take pictures when I travel and people think i was lying that I was traveling😂 If its not documented it didn't happened-thats the mindset a lot of people have
Yeah 'travelling' became suddenly popular. I'm a 90's kid, when I was young, travelling abroad is considered 'expensive' in my 3rd world homeland and yet now every person in their 30's and 20's travel a lot that some are doing it monthly. It's crazy, I don't know where the heck they get the money and time to do it.
Kinda weird that as soon as people from developing countries started to travel this became a "problem" it wasn't bad before seriously.
Not really weird though. There is a lot of people in those places.
It's not that people from developing countries don't deserve to travel, it's just that now almost every country on earth is sending out tourists and it's making famous destinations more crowded. However, I feel like the solution to that is other places in the world becoming more popular tourist destinations, like in Asia or Africa.
@@user-wb8iu1hl6i one could start a company focusing on creating a tourism portal with like a million different toures. Then you could take a short test and get a wide range of recommendations on places you'd never think of otherwise.
Ask yourself before you book a trip somewhere, "am I just going there so I can post the selfie online?".
In the 80"s I visited a beach on Naxos, a beautiful long sandy beach with starry skies and the scent of Ceder in the evening. A third of the beach was off limits as it was a reserve for nesting site for turtles. Behind the beach was a sort of dusty track then a path. Behind green scrub and woodland , where a couple of farmers single story shacks had been made into studio's, there was a campsite for backbackers and a couple of Taverns with very dim lighting, Greek food, and, sometimes acoustic, live music. The nightlife happened in a tiny windmill which had been converted into a tiny night bar.There was no light pollution of any kind of litter. A little boat left a tiny jetty at Sundown returning day trippers to Naxos Town. And the beach was then abandoned to the small number of backbackers and locals. I visited twenty years later it was horrendous. Lots of bars, condos, electric signs, traffic, noise, loud music, litter, hawkers, fat, sunburned tourist either dunking or arguing ,. The main strip smelled of fried food, and fumes, not Ceder as before and the sound of the waves lapping the sandy shore was completely drowned out, the tranquil atmosphere had been snuffed out and only and I was left with a ghostly vestige of the former tranquility and beauty. The little Windmill was still there, derelict, squeeze down a short bind sandwiched between two busy businesses. When I first visited there was no mass tourism. It was, before the airport was built. Now years later I realised I was a part of the problem.
For the tourist side of things, I think some people just need to put their phones down more when visiting tourist sites. Copying the same photos from social media, is like buying the same postcards (those are still a thing these days). In fact, why not do that? You have postcards that can have a full view of the sites your visiting without the mass crowds of people.
Everyone has their own preference on social media for posting photos, I still do take some photos at least. But we don't need to see you everytime when visiting somewhere famous, and with a random facial expression that just embarrasses yourself in public 😂
When you think "fuck, there's so many people here"
And then realise you're there too.
Honestly lately I've really wanted to travel to Italy lately, despite never having the urge to travel before, just because my best friend of several years lives there. I loooooove idly talking with him about cultural differences with him and would absolutely love to go and spend a week with him, see his house, go to his favorite restaurant, etc etc
The common thread of over tourism is the rise of social media, and travel influencers. Image posts spreads word faster about destinations more than anything the modern world has ever seen before. Booked flights, booked accommodations and plethora of images wanting to be taken by the hundreds of thousands + and that footprint is astronomical. For all the cool things about social media it comes with the not so good. Not sure what the solution is it’s just what so for now.
Poorly timed video 😷 amazing what 3 months has done.
I'm still going to travel.
Travel is over rated! Once you’ve traveled enough you’ll realize a city is a city, a building is a building & humanity is humanity
I agree with you that travel is overrated! But there are places I want to travel to because I want to enjoy the culture because I am not able to experience the culture in the country I live in.
During the climbing season There are atleast 200 people waiting everyday in 'The Death zone' of The Mt Everest to take a selfie at the top.
There's a hint of elitism here and a subtle disparagement of Asians and emerging middle classes as if they're not worthy enough to travel... Sorry, not sorry, but I love to travel, and part of that travel experience is seeing the excitement of everyone else who is enjoying that experience around me.
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*Shuffles hands*
*Whispers* :inferiors
Haha! Accusing the Atlantic of being racist and classist. Commies eat their own, I guess.
@@MrSmith-ve6yo a private for profit company is communist?
@@user-fg8ux8zo6w Yup! It's owned by the social change organization, the Emerson Collective. Besides, being an ideologue in a rich, Western nation means you can afford incredible amounts of cognitive dissonance without feeling negative effects. It can't last forever of course...
“Tourism is getting out of hand!”
Coronavirus: hold my beer
Lesson of the day: *its okay to go on trips as long as you respect the environment ( don’t grow your trash on the floor ) as respect the rules ( don’t go where your not supposed to)*
Unfortunately it is not possible to travel (far away) and respect the environment... :/
social media ruined travel.facts.
And rich kids who have rich parents!
"I try and avoid people who enjoy travel purely for the sake of it, which isn't difficult... because I don't!" Who said that? I just did.
It's not that there's too many travellers. There is too many people.
It's just simply...this planet is overpopulated. And living conditions are quite good for most if us...
In Dark Souls 2, there's a character called Blacksmith Lenigrast who has some interesting wise words about over travelling too much in one's life.
"A man ought to labour with his feet planted firmly in the earth."
"Not roam around like you flirtatious vagabonds."
"Drat, you're worse than my reckless daughter."
"Don't spend you're whole life in transit, you hear?"
"Now, there's a time for travels, but you can't wander the world forever.
"Even you must have someone waiting back home…"
The "crisis" is that the middle class is getting in the way of the upper-crust traveling.
This must stop!
Oh, honey, the upper crust is traveling and staying at luxurious 5 star resorts with amazing views and dining in exclusive wine caves and private yachts with private chefs catering to them, drinking $300 bottles of wine, attending private gatherings and having their extraordinary experiences away from all the riff-raff. No need to worry about them, darling.