The WNBA is On Fire; Can it Sustain?
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- The WNBA is On Fire; Can it Sustain? Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese have WNBA Ratings at an all time high. Signup for Underdog Fantasy Here: play.underdogf... CODE: THATSGOOD
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Rivalries are great, even if they are stoked by ESPN. The WNBA needs it to continue, and mimic the NFL with Patrick Mahomes & Josh Allen or more aptly maybe the Philip Rivers Jay Cutler Rivalry.
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“Is it sexist if I don’t go balls deep??” What a quote lmao
Magic Johnson went to Michigan State, not Michigan. DAMNIT PERNA!! 😂
Spartan yes, wolfie no!
Also, Bird went to Indiana State.
And Bird went to Indiana State.
GO BLUE!
Magic went balls deep in the WNBA back in the day
Number of times Brandon talked about you:
Wnba: 1
Rockies: 0
he did talk about the Rockies for a bit in the baseball losses vid
I never watch baseball lol
@@thatsgoodsports wait theres people who actually stay awake to watch baseball? they dont just fall asleep?
@@thatsgoodsportsAs you shouldn’t.
@thatsgoodsports Apparently you have never watched basketball either. The veteran players of women's basketball is saying that the things getting pointed out about Katlyn has BEEN happening in women's basketball (FOULS INCLUDED). I used to watch women's basketball and compare it to the WWE in real life 😁. They would almost destory each other on the court and high 5 each other at the end. They have gotten better since the WNBA but the rough play has always been there. Like EA Sports, in was in their game.
That lady flat out lied she did beat the record quicker than the other record holder
I remember my starting wage was $15 an hour and I gradually got raised to $20 in less than 2 years but now new hires start at $18 an hour. I won’t hate the new hire for receiving a better starting wage because the ones before me that started at $12 hour didn’t hate me
See, this is the type of attitude to adopt. Every time I hear someone mention that their first job only paid them "$2 an hour" so today's first-time workers need to stop complaining, I need to fight the urge to ask "and what are those $2 equal to when adjusted for inflation?"
That’s just financial illiteracy. Literally everything is more expensive now and the money is less valuable. Boomers just have to feel validated 😂
@@ZhangtheGreat i haven’t calculated the inflation but in a way I can understand the frustrations with the current veterans making less than the rookies but unfortunately they were born at the wrong time
Sure but you're missing the scale. Imagine youre making $15 and the next person doesnt get 20, but instead $150 an hour. You'd probably be pissed when you found out all you got out of it was going from 15 to 20
@@jsterdawg72 exactly
we got a brandon perna wnba video before gta 6
My bingo card must be broken lol
I knew i didn’t have to look far to find one of these comments
Npc ahh comment
Clark getting hard checked and still playing is what got me watching. It's too funny seeing the wnba play harder than the nba.
Believe me she's not getting hard check yet.only one person will slow her down.just wait and you will see
NFL banned tackling and kick offs…
She’s been put through so much ish, it’s wild to see!
Its the collisions now outlawed in the NFL. Like whenever hulk Hogan made pro wrestling cartoonish I started watching women's basketball in a similar time slot back in the late 80s. The WNBA has vintage Vincent Lombardi blocking and tackling. Nobody in the NFL wants to get fined for tackling. The WNBA there will be contact. I'm not the biggest Caitlin Clark fan, but I love Aaliyah Boston and they're like Larry Allen and Emmett Smith. Clark is getting way better at following Aaliyah Boston. The refs will never call a moving screen as long as it's entertaining. Clark will get bigger numbers without Boston but way more likely to win in a synergy.
Reese is her team's only all-star. I hope Camilla Takes some of her numbers and get them more wins. Takes time to build a team.
I enjoy watching these ladies play.
Lol as a 100% casual soccer fan that's why I prefer watching women's national teams. They don't flop nearly as often or pathetically as the men do lmao
Crazy you went for balls deep in wnba 😂😂
Of course he did… Brandon is a big fan of unattractive, manly women. 😝
@@Jtforthr33 a lot of the players wish they had em so 🤷🏻
That's foul @@silasdeane777 😭
@@silasdeane777one of them does….
Here is your "still haven't watched a single game" button
Yup
should add "And won't" to the end of that to make it the most accurate.
Yet, people are still interested so nobody cares
@@swerve3031why won’t you watch the wnba?
@@Nathanielhiggerson66 Nobody is interested.
105k average salary is solid money. I’d be happy as shit. 100k for 4 to 5 months of work? Hell yeah.
Women.
@@Jordan-Ramses lol
They could make the argument that they don't get paid enough, and I could say I make 40 Grand a year. Working over 200 days of the year
While the season from first OTA to the 'chip is only five months, it is a full year long commitment when it comes to staying in shape both physically and mentally.
@@GenocideOwl year long commitment of working out. Then you have 6 months of the off season. So you have plenty of time. Millions do that without making nearly that much. They’ll be making more now, but why would you make more than 105k average with bad attendance and viewership? They just seem entitled. Of course now the averages will go up thanks to Caitlin Clark became a huge brand in sports. All for them making more, but to act like they aren’t making a good money shows how out of touch they are. On a side note it’s cool seeing Aja Wilson now getting mainstream attention. Curious what the league will be like in 5 years. It’s exiting. Also curious what playoff viewership will look like of the Fever don’t make it.
Brandon "I'm finally living up to the sports, plural, in my channel name" Perna
Talking about the Broncos takes so much energy, he's finally recovered just in time to be in pain once more
@@broncosfan99 As a fellow Broncos fan? Yeah, I know. It's energy draining.
What? “That’s good Sport” is evolving!
Congratulations! Your “that’s good sport” has evolved into “That’s good sports”!
Reese was also on tape CHEERING when that body check from Chennedy occurred. The jealousy and hate are REAL, but it’s only one sided 😂
Women can't STAND to see other women be successful. It's hilarious to watch the envy takeover during games.
Only white racists cheered for Larry Bird according to perna. Never the other way, couldn’t happen
Winners focus on winning. Losers focus on winners.
@@evanwestendorf9667ur point makes no sense because Sue Bird and Breanna Stewart exist
Exactly! Clark is their savior and they hate her
Anytime u have bill maher with Charlemagne, u know that shits gonna be racist asf
I fucking miss Cameron Brink!!!!!
If the vets stop being jealous of all the rookies, the sky is the limit for the league
They’re women. Good luck
that's an issue in every league, just seems like the people in charge are going along with the hazing bs
@@iraxks0341guys get crazy jealous gtfoh!
@@LoFoSho it is in a woman’s nature to be jealous and envious of other woman. There have been studies that show chemically what occurs in a woman’s brain compared to a man’s brain. It is a hormonal reaction.
@@LoFoSho I’m not talking about your jealous ex-boyfriend here. I’m talking about a woman being jealous of the attention another woman gets. It’s the reason why every soap operas target audience is a woman. Women, biologically (hormonally), are more envious (gluttony).
It's Caitlin Clark.
That is all.
Bs
I didnt ever pay attention to the wnba or womens basketball in general until a certain person named Caitlin Clark showed up,and I feel like I speak for lots of people when I say that
@@JacksonFitz theyve done very well with marketing her. kudos to whoevers making those decisions
Well ESPN has also been shoving it down your throat
@@slipinslider
BECAUSE she draws.
How does 16 points a game bring you to the sport?
@@Ryan-wx1bi
16-6-7-1-1 probably does….
The WNBA is relevant at the moment because of Clark.. The other players should embrace her and be thankful
Yeah. They should. But have you never met a woman?
They’re racist
The word 'relevant' is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence.
"This is confusing. Is it sexist to go balls deep? Is it more sexist to not go balls deep? I mean, the line gets real... * unzip * blurry."
I like how wnba players try to bully Caitlin Clark when they should be thanking her when the pay raise comes
WNBA is just weird, Euroleague Women and some other foreign countries actually pay player better than WNBA because they actually do have attendance to support them. It is like WNBA doesn't care about basketball at all.
But will they come?
lol the bullying is what makes wnba now must-see-tv.
Balls Deep into the WNBA with Brandon Perna before GTA 6 is wild stuff
High Flying Action!
ESPN stoking racial tensions? Huh.
I've been gambling on the WNBA and I've never had more fun watching sports. Most inconsistent league I've ever watched 😂
I love all the turnovers and fouls
@@BeMuffinTop24 Best part of the league is the absolute chaos that will just randomly unfold on a possession.
I've made 43 bets and I haven't seen any consistency, even in the top players. It makes no sense, how the fuck can't just 2 of you out of the 100 keep up pace.
@DEC3TheWokeProject Sounds like a gambling addiction chasing your losses. You should call 1-800-GAMBLER. It's 100 percent confidential, 100 percent of the time.
@benmuffler611 there were 13 turnovers by 1 team in the first half that I watched the other night 😂
No one holds women back like other women. The Caitlin Clark treatment has been highlighting that.
Hold on a damn minute Magic Johnson went to Michigan St, gonna get cooked for that slip up.
One single person. Clark is the reason. When one of the other people take her out it will be over, yes they are going all out to remove Clark.
The WNBA is a pretty good product, especially during a time when there is almost nothing else to watch
You want to see something really bad go back and watch the WNBA first years game. It was like watching a HS game in slow motion underwater. They had to add a shorter shot clock to make them play faster. It was a good time to sneak a nap. The WNBA has not been a great product to watch most of it's time it's been around.
If the WNBA players were any good, they'd be on a NBA team. The best WNBA player isn't good enough to even challenge for a 12th spot on the worst team in the best basketball league, the NBA.
@@jayclue8581no shxt einstein. It's called biology. No one is claiming they are. But shooting, that's a different story.
Brandon Perna made a WNBA video, they've made it
The irony is that Clark is brining eyeballs and eventually money to the league, so players should all appreciate her, but instead they all hate her and are targeting her. Yet that bad attitude and controversial approach is increasing interest in the WNBA even more.
I played basketball all the way up to college. I never watch a full wnba game till Clark. She’s a very skilled rookie that’s going to change their league
Maybe the NBA should stop subsidizing this shit and see if it can maintain itself…
I remember being in Vegas during that strange time of year when hardly anything to bet on. MLB all star game, no NBA, No NFL, no NHL, and having to resort to betting on a WNBA game.
Brother that’s called an addiction 😂😂😂
say you have a gambling problem without saying you have a gambling problem.
I've been there, and it hurts man. I haven't hit on 43 wanna bets but I won't watch it even if moneys on the line. I've never seen such a hot cold league in my life.
What was the over/under on 75 layups
At one time I worked in a Vegas sportsbook. People would bet on literally anything on those days. Cricket, CFL, Rugby, Foreign Hoops, crap they knew nothing about. Gotta have that action. Madness.
WNBA fell off a cliff once they couldn’t piggyback off the NBA anymore when the season wrapped up.
Ya, it already seems like its at least 50% down. When NFL training camp starts, they are toast.
Perna......you NEED DISC GOLF!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!
Wait...there's a professional women's _basketball team?_ And people _watch it?_ When did this happen?
The 1990s.
All I know about the wnba is that Caitlin Clark is dominating and is viewed as a privileged racist for her skin color.
They forgo5 about the the facts Omg of the best players in history are black
I don’t watch men’s basketball so I care even less about women’s basketball
Can we stop talking about this made up drama to have ppl talking about the WMBA. Go watch Days of our lives or some BS. WMBA is 💩
Yo, that's my dad holding the Larry Bird towel. I swear they show this clip as B roll anytime there's Bird highlights. I call my dad every time I see it and he's loving it
Something I hate so much about the rivalry in the WNBA that women always talk about "women support women" "women looking out for women"
But then the millisecond a woman is better at anything than another woman it's perfectly okay to tear them down. Women have been doing this forever and it shows in the WNBA. And as a fellow woman it makes me really sad because we should absolutely be supporting each other.
It was so embarrassing they shoved Caitlin to the ground when she wasn't looking and the opposing teammates start clapping like a stupid fucking seal. Because shoving a girl to the ground that isn't looking is very empowering for women 🙄
Nothing will ever make me hate Caitlin. She's a good person, extremely talented, mature and hard working. And I hope the girls that are attacking her physically and verbally because they know she's better either grow the fuck up and leave the WNBA. We don't need to keep encouraging women to tear each other down.
(Also Angel isn't that great. There's nothing impressive about getting a lot of rebounds because you were playing wall ball with the back board).
Wammen have always been the more vindictive and vicious of the sexes. At least of the ones that could figure out their sex.
You're insufferable did you know that?
That's soft talk. WNBA has historically been tough on rookies and it's an acknowledgement of her skill that draws so much attention from the vets. Nobody hassles the players that suck.
It may have been like 3 women hating on her lol you just want an excuse to be misogynist. I usually don't reply but there is just too much ignorance in this comment.
@@justdesignonly169 ????..... Wanting women to support women is misogynistic?... Okay buddy
Good video brandon and yes the fire will continue
I still don’t care about the WNBA and I never will.
No.
The WNBA does not sustain itself even at its newfound interest (which won't last). I'll acknowledge the WNBA when they're actually a stand alone league (if they ever do) the same way I acknowledge them now as an non self sustaining league.
Magic went to Michigan St not Michigan, and Bird went to Indiana St. not Indiana. I'll
I don't even like watching the NBA.
You get: The most level headed opinion piece of the WNBA
However: it’s part of a series called “balls deep”
Thanks Perna!
The magic and bird comparison is an A+ take. Definitely the best comparison I’ve heard for the 2024 WNBA
Perna out here telling us not to believe our lying eyes.
Congrats on becoming a "real journalist".
“The next time I watch a wnba game will be the first time I watch a wnba game” Norm Macdonald
I think they’ll retain the audience. The question is what will playoff viewership look like without Caitlin?
The wnba has a choice in this. Either embrace the bew generation and admit.that CC is basicly the league MVP (she brings in viewers and ticket sales). Or, stay the corse, and embrace the feminist lesbian side they have for 20 plus unprofitable seasons.
It's a phase and a fade. Just like with hiver boards it'll have its moment and quietly be in the background.
“Has the WNBA been really really good all along?”… no, it always sucked. It’s just that they now have a record breaking, politely mannered, hot handed, fairly pretty lady knocking down 3 pointers from the logo
Pretty is a stretch but she's def going to be the goat of the wnba
Okay so we have had a red stapler on the coffee table lately. And it always make me think of Milton and office space, so i just laughed extra hard 😂
Whitlock and maher are in fact, master baiters...
I’m genuinely shocked Perna missed that joke. It’s right in his wheelhouse.
NO, they don’t replicate stats, boring, only thing that is interesting is the drama that’s going on, they don’t need to get paid more, clearly cuz the WNBA will go bankrupt
Did he just say Magic Johnson's out of Michigan? Did he seriously say that?
Shows that the wnba's problem is simply poor marketing. Hype it and they will come
Their problem is that they are a bunch of entitled, subpar athletes that aren't enjoyable to watch.
I gotta say Perna, I really appreciate you not being afraid to talk about race and how it plays into sports narratives. I think it creates interesting dynamics and you help make the topic not seem so volatile but just part of the story.
Like how you bring up white cornerbacks and make jokes about it. We're all thinking some of these things but all too often the conversation turns into a race war instead of just a funny conversation on the reality of demographics in professional sports.
So keep it up big dawg
Of course Perna uploads the best video on the topic I've seen yet. There is no better sports CZcamsr out there. This man made me love football again
Let's face it, another reason for the WNBA pick up is...the country has a raging gambling addiction to the point they willwatch anything just to bet on it.
Was just at a game a few days ago and was impressed with the experience. Will try to attend more games in the future.
Without Clark in the Olympics, nobody is gonna watch. Those who do will be rooting for team USA to lose
It CAN last… if the women can support each other instead of trying to put players down that are clearly bringing millions of eyes to the product. If they get out of their own way, it will be must-watch.
These women's jealousy over Caitlin proved women don't mature faster than men. You look at how the NBA players reacted to Victor Wembanyama BEFORE he came into the league and you contrast that with how they reacted to Caitlin. That Sheryl women was an embarrassment. I hope she gets a refund from every educational institution she has ever been to.
"Let's ask the fan" -family guy absolutely murdering the wbna many years ago
The paralells between the NBA in the
70s / early 80s and the current WNBA are staggering.
1. The NBA in the 1970s was essentially a two team league. Boston and LA. Interest wasn't very high. That actually was a trend for the first 25 years of the league. By the late 70s, the lwague was old and boring. No new stars.
This is the WNBA up til now almost exactly. 25 years of low interest revolving around 3 marketable teams: NY, CHI, PHX.
2. Like you said, The Magic Bird rivalry. CC and AR. This is the rivalry that defines the sport.
3. Look ahead. In 84, right in the middle of the rivalry, the Jordan Draft. 15 All Stars, 10 HOF.
The 27 class is that for the WNBA. It's stacked.
3. The Nike effect. They just put the entire league on the map. The advertising it gets them is priceless.
It's Bird vs Magic. They get that 27 draft right, its off to the races.
I figured the WNBA made a ton of money, since obviously a majority of women will buy Season tickets, and probably even bring their families to games. They don’t need men to get in the way of the millions of women who are begging for women’s basketball. so how can it lose?
women don't watch sports at the rate that men do.
If they stop complaining about and bullying their cash cow, it could at least be profitable.
It will never be profitable.
Without watching this video, i will say absolutely not.
I'm convinced 99% of these "fans" haven't sat down and tried to watch these games. It's just as hard to watch as the last decade of WNBA.
I still haven't watched a single second of a live WNBA game.
Can it sustain? I say yes, but my advice is simple. Focus on the basketball, and not activism. Honestly, while I am definitely in favor of women's sports, what I do not like is how some players prefer using this platform for activism, and even worse, they are very belligerent about it, especially on social media. You want to support a cause, fine, it's your right. However, if you act like a better-than-thou douchebag and openly pick fights cause someone disagrees with your opinion, you just tainted your own cause, cause people will associate your behavior to similar activists by proxy. This really is a case of "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch", and the WNBA has a lot of work to do on the PR front to garner support once again.
That comment about “kelsey plum set the record in 4 years” is so funny to me because Caitlin broke it in 4 years lmao
Someone watched a lot of Max Headroom as a kid lol
I yelled at the screen 'Hey Seattle has an NBA te- oh. yea.'
I gotta get over losing the Sonics. Ive been in denial for an unhealthy amount of time.
Moment of respect for Magic and Bird. One of the best sports stories ever. Those two built the NBA.
Come October/November you might be getting your Sonics back if Adam Slivers last press conference is anything to go by earlier this week...pretty sure if they are going to decide on expanding Seattle is a lock,Jeff Bezos might be the guy who brings an NBA team back to Seattle
Wnba will fail if they don't embrace Clark, their true superstar rookie🤷♂️ without her nobody would watch
“As it started to become a more *black* sport” 😂😂😂😂
I feel like we saw this same effect with Candace Parker 15 years ago. Sure the League got a nice bump in popularity for a couple years, but after the initial novelty of her superstardom wore off, the WNBA fell back into the same level of popularity they had prior to Parker's entrance to the the League.
I do hope that this does propel the WNBA to a meteoric rise in popularity that is sustainable. I just feel like this is a case of "same song, different dance".
And Lisa Leslie.
I’m sorry who
@@JJ-zr6fu lisa Leslie was the original WNBA superstar who played for the LA Sparks for the first 15+ years of the League (the end of her career overlapped with the beginning of Candace Parkers career).
Pretty sure Candace Parker is a politician not a basketball player.
@@Whiskey61 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I believe u r confused. U r thinking of Candace Owens
Thanks for making a vid on this!! Great vid
clark is basically the only reason people watch the wnba
and the other players hate her for the popularity of their league
just brilliant, gotta love it
Right in the beginning I felt like you was about to say Caitlyn Jenner lol
I still literally know zero people watching wnba 😂😂😂 the media sure tells us they do and here you are i guess telling me we are 😂
have you actually asked around, or are you just assuming? I know a ton of people and I’m not even from NA lol
ditto
And yet you seek out its content to comment on showing you do actually care..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same experience here. I've never been at a sports bar and heard anyone talking about the WNBA. Never seen a game on TV. No one at work is talking about it.
There have been other players who complained about how the WNBA players don't like straight/white women
Weird story. I live in New Orleans, and we used to have a AAA baseball team: The Zephyrs, who actually came from Denver then moved here. I liked going to their games, I liked the atmosphere, the Shrine on Airline all of it. Triple A ball is kinda cool actually. You find weird guys to root for, ask for their autographs, they’re actually impressed usually.
Then a new owner came in and changed the fucking name to The BabyCakes. The New Orleans BabyCakes. It was so stupid that I jumped naked wide in ironically. I bought the merch. The fucking mascot was a demon baby. I went to as many games as I could, and was getting as drunk as I could shouting shit like “THAT’S HOW TO PLAY BALL LIKE A CAKE MOTHERFUCKER!! THAT’S CAKES BASEBALL!!!”
I swear to god if we had a WNBA team down here, I’d fully embrace it in the same way. Not as much ironically, bc mostly I was bitter about the change, but more like “I’VE NEVER GIVEN AS MUCH OF A SHIT ABOUT THIS AS I DO NOW, AND I’M JUMPING IN FULL FORCE!!”
Considering the internal hatred for Caitlin Clark, no. If they maintain that course of action they’ll fail as they’ve been trying to do for years.
Saying Reese vs Clark is a rivalry is like saying MJ vs Reggie Miller was a rivalry…
It is clearly one sided and the other is just happy to be included in the conversation
Or Rodman being jealous of MJ, claiming he's bringing in just as many viewers.
I wouldn't really go that far. Angel Reese has been among one of the best in college behind Clark before they both joined the WNBA this year. Clark even got revenge against Reese in the NCAA tournament when Iowa took down LSU in the Final Four. There's a lot of good rookies in this draft class that are sparking all this hype and interest, it's just spearheaded by Caitlin because of the fact she was the most prolific scorer and all-around talent in college, making headlines regularly with her play. Though it is clear Reese has resentment towards Clark as a competitor, it's not like this huge gap of "one is clearly better" or something, and they have different styles of play.
Reese and LSU beat Caitlin Clark and Iowa when the championship was on the line. Then she lost to Reese’s teammate Kamilla Cardoso in the following year in the final four to South Carolina for another title Clark didn’t win.
Reese has 14 straight double doubles, there is a gap but not the direction you think it is.
If Caitlin can start a streak of any kind with triple doubles, then we can talk about the gap between them actually shorting.
@@dobe46You sound like someone who thinks wins matter as part of a starting pitchers stats
Here is your "Yup, I watched at least a few games this season," button.
Not only was Swopes' comment ridiculous, but flat out wrong. Clark only spent 4 years in college and was 22 when she graduated (not 25 like Swopes stated).
Swoops ain't nothin' without Coops... Cynthia, that is... 😮
The pat clip got me💀💀
Some really good points here but “We don’t have 12 girls in the WNBA better than Caitlin Clark” is a lie lol
I refuse to let Caitlin Clark trick me into liking the WNBA.
I started watching and betting on the WNBA because of Caitlin Clark.💯
The answer to the question in the title is no. Guaranteed next season everything will go back to normal.
Perna pointing to his ring finger…..yet there’s no ring on his finger 🧐
Shoot CC wins ROY and MVP? Retire, go straight to the big3, sign a lifetime contract with whatever shoe brand and coast the rest of her days. She is the GOAT and the WNBA doesn’t deserve her.
I tried to watch, its awful basketball, missed layups, passes out of bounds, and dribbles off of feet.
Could be worse! Seen Bronny play?
I’ve seen better basketball watching high school basketball
I turned a game on and was immediately reminded how boring basketball is
Squeak squeak 😂 all u hear
As long as both your wife and the WNBA are ok with it, go as deep as you want!
Bill Burr need’s some love for this
Hopefully this is similar to when Magic, Bird, Jordan and other legends of the game came into the NBA and makes the popularity of the league go sky high. Personally though I feel like the game needs to become bigger than just North America its got to become big in Europe and Africa to see sustained growth.