PCBite Handsfree Oscilloscope Probe!
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- čas přidán 31. 12. 2020
- Extract from the Mailbag. Review of the PCBite handsfree oscilloscope probe set.
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Thanks for sharing Dave! If anyone has any further questions on the PCBite system, comment below and I'd be happy to answer them.
Cheers,
Anthony
I doubt you will ever get a more positive review than that one.
send one to Louis Rossman?
@@eliotmansfield I've shared to Louis's discord server chat
Anthony - would you consider sending a set to Paul Daniels in Qld? m.czcams.com/users/19PLD73
Brilliant probe, curious marc would find this useful czcams.com/users/CuriousMarc
Everybody: PC-Bite
Dave: PCB-ite
It's because everything else in Australia bites.
@@Skilldibop lol
He really molybdenum'd that one!
Its a trick to make us remember the name better.
If you label something capital PCB then it gets damn well pronounced PCB. PC-Bite or PCbite if you wanted something else.
I don't even have a scope and I want this now.
time to get a scope mate
I don't have a scope either. Just a soldering iron and a multimeter. Has worked for me until now as I just do you average around the house electronics repair as a Joe Average.
You can get a used scope quite cheap. Its worth it if you do anything more than the most basic electronics
@@smeezekitty Must be searching in the wrong spots in the Netherlands, because it's relatively cheaper to get a new one than a second hand jobby. The price difference I saw were pretty small to be honest.
Who still has one of those 3rd hands with magnifying glass that keeps flopping in the breeze tossed into a corner out of anger and frustration? Raise your hands! ✋
heh... fond memories... used to own one myself and i accidentally knocked it over breaking the glass, so i got rid of the glass ring and kept the rest of it.... but yeah, i have tossed one into a corner because of that reason aside from breaking the glass
I took the magnifying glass off and use it hand held instead. Comes in handy for other things too :)
Yep I use these all the time. They also work great as an electrical connection
Yep.
+1
I got this kit a couple of months ago. I had the same reaction. Absolutely life changing.
One note. The sp10 probes can be used as the ground connection, or for DMM connections or injecting signals/power. The two wire connectors on them let you daisy chain then or just put a well placed jumper from one place to another.
Damn you Dave, once i got scope you show something new i need to get... This electronics hobby is worse money sink then owning a boat.
The power of influencers. I just ordered the big kit. I know I will love it
Good influencers save people time and make companies money. Bad influencers waste peoples time and money.....good thing electronics at this tooling level is not a mainstream thing
Perhaps but can this truly an awesome idea/product. Can't wait to get it!
@@Zonkotron The trick from the company side is to have an amazing product. As in this case, it does one thing really well. Don't try to cheat or paper over problems, because it will be called out. On the "influencer" side, we trust Dave to say what he thinks. Heck, even Linus Tech Tips is extremely specific about stating what is sponsored content (read an ad) versus their reviews.
@@arthurmoore9488 Which is exactly what i said in 3 times the space ;)
@@Zonkotron That's right .. there's influencers and effluencers.
PCB- ite???? whaahahahahhahahahaha PC BITE. Well done Dee-Ave
I'm not the one that named it PCBite and not PCbite or PC-Bite. If you are going to capitalise PCB then I'm damn well going to say PCB.
i would think it was called PCB-bite
@@EEVblog The logo literally has a “bite” taken out. But ok.
@@EEVblog Is that an A ustrailian thing?
@@ianmorris8534
I used to say ATM machine, I got called out on it once now I’m a smart arse and call it an ATM-achine.
Wow, just wow. That is some brilliant engineering and a must have for probing SMD chips with such a fine pitch. Absolutely amazing
Dave's enthusiasm for this product and its various nice nuances really resonates with those of us who spend any intensive time at the bench!
used this during one of my internships. it's so good when debugging digital signals
Most of the time I see gadgets for helping with working on the bench and it feels like "1 off" "dust collector" "trinket", but I have to say, this one made me go "Oh, okay, I'm in!" *especially* when you pushed it down and it locked in place with the spring loading --- winner!
You should save money for your house
@@mladen1000 you still have to make work/job investments during the process, otherwise you'll end up with no cashflow/jobs after and subsequently sink.
I have those PCBite board holders, and have been using them good amount of time. They worth every penny!
I've had these for a while now and they're freaking great 😁👌
thats why its called the PC'BITE' cause it bites into the PCBs :)
PC Bite because it bites in PCs?
i would think it was called PCB-bite..
So you say it Ites into PCBs?
If you label something capital PCB then it gets damn well pronounced PCB. PC-Bite or PCbite if you wanted something else.
Simple idea + great engineering and build quality = awesome product :)
This looks brilliant !
Kit ordered now :)
Thanks for the tip, this will be very handy
Just bought a set because of this video. Thanks for recommending!
These have the SP10 also for multimeters with 4mm banana plugs.
Thank you for reviewing this Dave! I have been wondering about asking you to take a look at it for the last couple of weeks before Christmas and looks like Father Christmas arranged for you to get one and do it!
That's definitely a nice setup 👍🏼👍🏼
winner winner chicken dinner ! - got it on order 200Mhz probe version, good one Dave, it just fell into your lap.
Well done - Already ordered it from Batronix :-)
Im using this kit wit 1x probe for years, i even moded the sharp tip to a rounded pogo pin. [I work with flexible PCBs(Ag on TPU) so sharp tip will go trough the pcb. There a getting-used-to while using this /getting the angle right. But for a R&D and diagnosis its best of the shelf solution.Also PCB Workstation with Nano-Probes by giufini is also a DIY-3D-Print solution!
This is a no brainer, even if you do not work on pcbs on a regular basis. I will order it immediately.
They are going to be very happy with that review.
I am nailing down my debit and credit cards right now. WOW I want this. I understand your enthusiasm. This would have saved so much grief over the years.
Nice to see they added oscilloscope probes to their line-up. Ordered a bunch rightaway. Have been using their classic 'SP-10' in conjunction with a normal scope probes, but that was always kind of messy. Actually never cared much for the PCBite holder itself, most of the time I simply stick the goosenecks to a small 0.5kg gym weight or something like that. The probes are sharp enough to maintain position even if there is a bit of movement between the probe support and the circuit board.
This gear is awesome. I hope they sell shedloads
Ordering in the next day or two.
@@pldaniels and multmeter ones also!
Why a beautiful setup!
Bought it. Love it. They are excellent!
I bought one kit, those probes are fantastic.
Just what I needed, ordered. I'm sure it'll be bery helpful for debugging new Betaflight/FlightOne/Cleanflight/PX4 code on my new SP Racing H7 flight controller boards.
I only recently became aware of these magnetic board holders. The downside I have seen demonstrated with the holder style is that is could knock smd components off. A variation I have seen is has a cylindrical concave surface that supports the board without having to actually clamp on to it. I am definitely getting a set of those probes.
A blessing for people with phocomelia. Sincere cheers, mate.
I just got a scope for christmas (Rigol DS1054) and now I'm convincing myself that I don't need these.
I'd like to think, this should be be a main channel video - even with the product plot. Interesting af, I'm really considering to buy that thing now.
It's in the new mailbag on the main channel.
great idea
well this aint solar roadways!...ive never seen Dave so excited!.. he needs a fresh pair of underpants i think! :P
thats a really nice tool...the design is awesome!
..heh just got one of them same EGA/CGA to VGA boards to hook up old 8bit to a monitor!
Let´s call it TECHGASM 😂
extreme cool tool!
It gets better! They have dmm probes too!!!
Yes, showed those in the full mailbag video. Handy!
Brilliant !
Happy new year Dave 🎉🎈🎂
Dammit Dave, you're costing me more money! First it was the Ioniq (got my all-electric last month), and now it's these probes! I can do the PCB spring clips on my 3D printer, but those pogo-pin probes are beautiful. On my board, it's lots of test points, maybe deliberate solder mask gaps in early revs, but those are really,really nice. Having a set of those on hand will save me from using as many of my "special words" while debiugging!
anyone who works alone and has to probe more then 1 thing at a time knows how hard it is to just hold a probe steady.... this is perfect, and I check the price, very reasonable!!
Only $270 for 4 probes.
I spot a Gonbes video converter. I'm waiting for mine to arrive. Excited
That's a bit of well thought goodness. maybe if the business end of the probes were insulated toward the tips (if they're not already laquered) might mitigate the accidental shorting scenario
Let´s call it a turningpoint?!
I allways wondered how to probe
This is a very nice Kit. its on my wish list for2021
Wow, those are AWESOME! Would be nice if K&A would put together a package with a couple 200Mhz probes but I guess it can be bought separately. Suggestions on what I should tell swmbo?
similar pcb clamps were in a voltlog video few days ago.
Love it
I just discovered this. It's a wonderful invention. I understand the high price (in canada).
I got some PCBite probes finally! Unfortunately, I didn't get them from K&A because shipping to the USA was way too much. Interestingly, according to the specs of PCBite, the capacitance and impedance values show them to be incompatible with many oscilloscopes. That includes the Rigol DS1054z shown in the full page slick that comes with the probes. Despite being out of spec for the DS1054Z, they work just fine with that scope.
might need to get some of these... :D
*goes to find a UK supplier*
To which the answer is apparently "The same people who are the UK reseller for Rigol", so that's handy.
Shut up and take my money! It's brilliant!
@17:02 "This new PCB wireless probe thing..."
Hmmmm, WIRELESS probes huh??? That WILL be handy to have!
13:20 Glad to see you swapped the red rubber bumper for the green to match the channel 2 colour on the scope. That was hurting my OCD :P
Glad someone appreciated that :-D
Even if you don't have a scope, anything that uses probes could benefit from this. If you have (a) multimeter(s) you're watching voltages with, you could use this. Grab some BNC to banana adapters and you're set. Or clip to the SP10.
On my list :)
can we also talk about how lovely it is to have large color indicators! When I am doing tests I always have more then 4 cables out (pwr, oscilloscope probes, Voltage, amps, etc..) , and its hard, especially when all my wires are on the table to identify which wire is which but those large indicators are going to be awesome!!
They thought about that really well.
@@EEVblog so much better then those tinny color indicators that can easily be hidden by a single wire lol
I wonder if a blunt probe tip with a notch in it would make stay on the chosen pin even more securely? It might not work as well for such tiny pins, but could work even better as an option for less fine ones.
Wow I needed these need to probe a circuit to find the runt pulses but I don't feel like holding the probes for hours on end.
The best equipment for those who get frustrated
You say we need it, but I don't see why since my third hand cheap magnifying stand does exactly this for me?
Personally I still would rather just very quickly solder a tiny wire as well. Especially for more sensitive or expensive boards. Also takes like a minute.
it's great
Wow, these probes really bite!
I suspect quite a bit of materials engineering went into the support structure of the probes. Making a cable with just the right balance of flexibility and rigidity to stand up like that is non-trivial.
Likely took many design revisions.
@EEVBlog2 So did you like it then Dave? ;)
Hard to tell...
Ordered...
Will the PCBite help you with shots under the Targano microscope, once adjusted for the change in depth? Seems like it provides a pretty solid single platform, which you could slide to show different views. Just my 2 tamagochi. Oh! And hot air re-work; with the greater airflow around the board it would cool more quickly! Yep, a force multiplier tool for sure. Need one, but need a lab first!!
i'm gonna hazard a guess here and say I think Dave likes them
Damn I want this.
Dave (or anyone else with these) - have you tried them on the RTB2004? Specified compensation range is down to 15 pF, whereas the RTB2k is only about 10!
Cold I also use that to do measurements on my solar roadway panels?🤔
Nice
This is so handy! I really like it.
But why the massively expensive price? Just a basic setup you could buy 3 nice Brymen BM235 or Fluke MM.
The problem with this massively over-inflated price is someone in China will copy it all and sell it for $5-10 on eBay or Alix.
What about using this with ( active ) probes ?
200 Mhz scope and probe. Yeah, that's good for looking at up to 40 mhz electronics with good fidelity. Has Dave ever done a video on oscilloscopes/probes for today's gigahertz electronics?
Looks like a winner... Not sure how folks outside of Oz would get one, is there a rep or distributer in NA for example?
sensepeek.com/resellers
I have the PCBite system for quiet a while now and it's pretty awesome. It's a bit on the expensive side, though... I covered the metal sheet with a ESD matt.
10:42 “Perfectly balanced. Like all things in the universe should be.”
"Mikey likes it!"
Did I spot that right, are these regular pogo pins?
That would mean that you could even have different probe tips for different situations
Not sure if a standard size, but yes.
Im a student, but I know i need this, also i have an osc and two channels and two hands are enough, I WANT ONE THO seems super usefull
aha, but how will you use the buttons?
@@qvatch jajjaja thats why i need one
When dave jones starts to moan ..... uha, i'm impressed. ;)
But why only on the eevblog2 channel? If it's this good surely it should be on the main channel?
It is, in the Mailbag.
I bought one a while ago, unfortunately my freight forwarder lost the package.
Bummer :-(
Something I've always wondered about those "antenna earth leads"
Is the issue the thickness of the wire, the length of the wire, or both?
The length and the inductance caused by it.
@@EEVblog BTW, you can easily improve performance of these probes by soldering a short length of copper wire to the ground can, or to the exposed gold ground pads on the back side.
See my review xdevs.com/review/sp200/
would these work if the PCB is at an angle?
Looks pretty good, I wonder if I can get them to send me one too?
Shy boys get nowt..! Im too polite and over the years ive noticed louder, brasher Peeps get more. But im still the same. Its how i was brought up...manners and shit
Cheapskate
Could you use one probe for gnd and link it over to the signal probe?
Yes, the sp10's work great for that. They can also inject signals or power to pins
Hey Dave, I've emailed you thru Amazon and thru eevblog emails, and I have'nt had a response. I am having troubles with your BM235 meter, and I need to find out how to get it exchanged under warranty. Bought it in August 2020, and I says it has a 1 year warranty, but Amazon says it was only able to be returned up until Sept 20(30days). Please help, I need my meter, badly.
How is the ground connection made? If it is a long loop, it isn't a good HF probe.
To answer my own question, one could use another PCBite probe to find a close ground and then use a short jumper to get that ground to the probe.
But did you like it?
those x1 probes would be fantastic for logic analyzers
i doubt i can get away with asking for 10 ... but i will try
EDIT: those prices are fantastic, seriously, $115 for 4 of them, if you got 20 your still under the cost of a good high quality fine pitched probing kit thats far less versatile
It only works on pcb board installed horizontally on that metal base, don't see how useful it can be when probing instruments and actual systems with pcb inside.
Err, no, the PCB does not have to be on that metal base, that's just to provide a more secure base so the holder base doesn't slide. You don't need the PCB holders at all, the board can just be sitting on your bench, the probe has plenty of reach.
I have a little metal stand that I connect the probes to and hang it over the piece of equipment I'm probing when I can't take off the enclosure fully.
Prices look reasonable too approx 200 euro for their biggest kit.
Looks compelling, I wish they were conformally coated or had some kind of nonconductive covers. Probes get dragged over PCB's by accident and those exposed shields are a hazard imho.
You could heat shrink it yourself if needed.
Dragging a probe over a live PCB risks shorting pins with the probe tip, let alone the shield.
@@ferrumignis I'm aware, it would reduce the risk, but not eliminate it.
@@EEVblog True, but I thought they were looking for feedback. I can't imagine it increasing BOM that much and it would make their product that much better.
@@ferrumignis I can envision a case where you can accidentally lean the shield against tall energized objects like a power supply or something with bus bars. I would probably wrap the probes in Kapton if doing this, but I don't see any reason this couldn't be straight from the factory and they were looking for feedback on their new product.
I want wireless probes.