TIG Settngs NOBODY is Talking About
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The biggest kept secret of TIG settings finally revealed in the most straight up approach possible.
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Been a welder for the last 40 years, truest thing I have ever heard.
I have been high pressure certified since 1976. He has a point but as a teacher he should be smart enough to know that what people need and are looking for is what the different setting actually do. Eg what does up slope do to the weld. For all the time he wasted telling us that time and hands on experience is necessary he could have just as easily given some useful info. This video tells me he is trying to tell all that he is great and they arent. Total waste of my time
@@holmes1956O this video wasn't aimed at someone like yourself, it was aimed at the guy who's not long bought a machine for whatever purpose and only really knows how to turn it on. People of certain levels of experience will be after what each setting does. And in that case will be asking specific questions, like "what happens when I increase/decrease the upslope time?". They won't be asking what were your settings for that weld. A standard WPS sheet will have all the settings you need for a specific job, but without the experience or education there is next to no chance a beginner can compete the weld to spec. There needs to be a base of practical teaching of some kind (self taught and youtube videos included), and often many years of practice/ experience, otherwise the settings are just numbers.
The only reason you got what you did from the video is because that's what you wanted to get. If you already know all you need to know, why watch videos like this?
@@dave98765 you need to go back and actually read my post. It basically says what you are saying. A good educational video will try and tell the watcher what the setting are for what they do and how they will affect the weld. Without that knowledge the inexperienced will have a very hard time progressing
@@holmes1956O you were critical of a video for not being something it wasn't trying to be. He has plenty of videos explaining what the different settings and setups do. This video was about telling people they can have perfect settings and still have things not look right and that looking right is the secondary concern.
@@dave98765 so now you are just mouthing off to try and be something you arent. You keep this up and you will start to become a troll. Maybe thats what you are. Anyway have a happy holiday and get the fuck off my back. My opinion is what it is
You can have the same amp settings as Jimmy Page... but you're not gonna play guitar like him.
I wish I would have used this analogy 🤣
haha absolutely! people have been chasing EVH tone forever and even with all the same stuff, its not the same
haha, awesome analogy!!!!!
@Jonathan Spier to you I say go watch zakk wilde play black sabbaths NIB on a hello kitty guitar. It's all about what you can do with what you're using
@@TheFabricatorSeries HA HA thats what I kept thinking the whole time. Cause I play guitar and it has a huge learning curve. Been playing for 25 years and I am still not great.
That's the hardest thing to try to explain to someone. I give you mad props for being a teacher, I couldn't do it. I'm an oilfield welder in West Texas and when someone asks me how did I weld that, or "how can I make my weld to look like that?" I tell them I don't know. I literally look at the weld puddle and adjust on the fly without thinking. Half the time I'm zoned out and have no idea of my rod angle, travel speed, or what kind of rod manipulation I'm doing. If you can't see what your weld puddle is doing and then decide how to adjust to correct it, I can't begin to tell you what "you" should do to fix your weld.
Yep, once you get your eyes adjusted to seeing the puddle, and keeping freedom of movement, it's like a form of "painting".
I think the best advice I ever received when I was a teenager was to get into Tig first then master rod and mig, because the muscle memory is not the same and it's so much harder to teach your brain to adjust amperage with your foot, feed with one hand , and travel and oscillate with the other. I never really got to use that experience ever again after that job, but now that I've been getting back into it after all theses years, it's been so much easier.
@@XxShantilisxX It's been years since I TIG welded. I have a brand new machine sitting here. Planning on getting back into it this summer.
Hell yea man, also a WTX welder. I learned to Tig on my sa200. I think the simplicity of a scratch start DC rig helps a lot. These guys who go out and buy a fancy Tig machine are getting too caught up in what knobs to fuck with. Just watch the puddle guys.
I think I learned on an old miler syncrowave and I wish I had bought one of those first. The new inverter machines are great though.
Im a TIG welder also here in the Philippines. I fabricate stainless steel kitchen countertops for a living. I am one your big fans around the world. Thank you for sharing us your knowledge about TIG welding. I really appreciate it a lot sir. I hope to see you in person.
This was worth the watch!! I’m a newbie, self taught, and come and go from Tig but absolutely think its the raddest thing.
Lots of truth and appreciate the bluntness.
Been welding for years, settings are definitely a starting point for the newbies.
Exactly! Experienced people already know most of this. But beginners have no idea, and need some guidance.
No, settings can change based on skill. I work with metal core .045 wire and based on skill you start at 27v and as you get better you move up to 28-28.5v. With their respective IPM wire speed. But that’s also true for tig it’s actually more pronounced with tig. You set up the amps based off what seems to get the puddle started fast but not melt a hole. Usually using the one amp per .000 of an inch rule . Once that’s set it’s all skill based after. It’s actually so skilled based that anything under 12ga steel can be welded with at 100amps and anything over that with 200amps. Assuming theirs a foot pedal of course. So setting on tig are VERY general. And someone that’s skilled will have very different setting than what a newbie needs.
@@TheOhsemix Shouldn't you set up your amps depending on the thickness or type of metal? Aluminum isn't going to be the same as steel, but yet none of you mention that as if it's not important and beginners don't need to know any of that. Basic settings that are recommended by who manufactured the welder are a good thing to know and about where you should start out at to me. What if you're stick welding with a 6010 rod and have your machine set up for running a 1/8 rod? If you don't know you're too high, your weld is probably going to suck.
@@ebogar42 he mentioned the 1 thousandth rule for you. Basically you're welding 1/8 then that .125 of an inch. So set it at 125 amps to start. But the whole point of a foot pedal is the freedom to go between (usually) 2 amps and whatever you set for your maximum.
You might blast out 125 for half a second to get your puddle started then drop to half pedal while you're coasting along and then taper off to quarter pedal then to nothing.
TIG really is about experience, and besides setting 150 or 250, you shouldn't really have to touch your machine.
(Set 150 for thin stuff, set 250 for thicker metal)
@@ZacharyJutras But isn't every machine different, so that rule wouldn't apply all the time? The foot pedal confused me a lot when I was using it, and I never got great at doing aluminum either. I blew a hole through it way too much, and had a hard time even getting a puddle. My teacher sucked though I think. There are many things I keep learning about it that he never told me. I've only had one good welding instructor. He does teach me a lot and actually comes around to see how I'm doing. He'll show and explain things to me too unlike the other guy. The new guy that took the shitty guys spot is good at explaining things, but he's so new and even fucks up a lot himself and doesn't know what he's doing sometimes. Fresh out of College and they gave him a job. Why? Makes no sense.
I'm a flight instructor and really appreciated the analogy to landing an airplane. When I land the plane I have no idea what my settings are! And that's how I try to teach landings. Students need the baseline settings but the rest is about focusing on what's in front of you and then practicing a lot.
So now I'm learning to weld. I wish there were settings that could make it happen but I see its really art. I'll practice and work on my art. Thank you Justin! Really appreciate your teaching!
My favorite descriptions of landing an aircraft:
- a bad landing is where you don't get off of the plane.
- a good landing is where you can walk away.
- an excellent landing is where you can use the plane again.
Biggest takeaway many don't understand...There is no substitute for experience! Skill isn't magic. That takes time and actually doing it, making mistakes and learning from them. Can't get that from reading a book or taking a class. Taking classes, being taught under a controlled situation is awesome but soon, if one intends to go further, class is over, get out there and do it.
Awesome video! Puts it out there under no uncertain terms. EXPERIENCE can't be replaced and that means doing something over and over and over again. Skill is developed.
I dabble in a lot of hobbies - everything from shooting music videos to welding underwater... I picked up an Everlast 255EXT a while back - nothing against Miller, Lincoln or other machines. Just compared features and wanted to venture outside "norms" and glad I did. I couldn't lay a clean weld to save my life on it for the first 30 minutes, then voila - Amperage. That was stick. After picking up a 100% Argon cylinder, I tried to TIG. Two years later, I'm dabbling in SS and Titanium. Still trying to nail down my aluminum work. TFS has been a FANTASTIC resource! Despite formal underwater stick welding training (The Ocean Corporation) I am seriously considering heading to Las Vegas for a class. I'm still pretty new at TIG so, I'm sure there's a lot to learn. Keep up the great videos, Justin!
Very valid points. The "initial settings" for amperage and gas flow are useful for beginners as you pointed out but after that it should be practice
Yep, lots and lots of practice mixed with trial and error and remembering what worked for that given situation and what didn't all while applying that to the lots and lots of practice.
One thing I think that misleads new people when it comes to TIG is that they watch video on youtube by people like Justin or Jody and others who have the "lots of practice" under their belt and they make it look easy to the viewer but what the viewer doesn't see in all the little intricacies that are taking place that are controlled by the person and not the machine but are also virtually impossible to show on film and just have to be picked up over time with practice and seeing what worked and what didn't for a given situation and then remembering that.
@@CJ-ty8sv the initial settings are important, you don't want your machine at 150 amps and 25 cfh when welding 20 Guage corners
@@grege2383 Never said that they weren't but I dont think the issue is "initial settings". From what I see, people get the initial right in a generally accepted workable area but they cant seem to get a good weld (especially one that is also "pretty") and then they think its something wrong with their "settings" when in fact it was their human settings that are wrong because they dont have the practice and experience to know what the human setting need to be.
I am just a beginner tig welder but I understand completely what you are saying that only practice can make a better welder. I bought a tig welder about 6 months ago just to be able to patch holes and fix props on my son’s boats. Played with it for a few minutes then was asked if I could weld aluminum and built a cart for the plant manager after only welding maybe two inches of aluminum previously. I am by no means a welder but I want to be able to fix things on my farm. Keep up the great work.
I'm just starting to tig and this is exactly what I needed to hear. Watching your videos is very educational... Thanks
Tig welding steel vs aluminum requires a different configuration that i have not grasped as yet. I appreciate your plain flat out facts of the matter, fatherless young men would have heard what your saying from their dad. If folks keep trying and keep watching you they will pick it up.
very true, knew a guy who took a semester of college welding and his welds did not look very pretty, but they were strong and held up under some pretty harsh conditions.
On the money! True to the end. Learned to weld back in 1986/87. Was very good. Have not welded for 30 years, started again and it is from scratch. My learning curve may be less but I'm a newbie again. My welds show that. If anyone trying to learn to TIG, thinks it is like MIG, it is not. GAS welding or brazing is similar but still not the same. Thanks for the Truth!
Great info. You will never mimick another's skill, you have to develop your own because everyone does thing in their own way, but they all lead to a successful sound weld. Such as 4+4 is still being 8, but 2+6 and 1+7 will give you the same outcome none the less.
I really like how you explained this! Thank you 👊
This info was trash. Settings are important.
@@ebogar42 Did you watch the video? What was said is that a YTer can't give you a specific number that will work for you, on your material, your style, your speed, your welder. And that you need to learn to pay attention to what's in front of you and not some magic number on the machine. As for them being important, yes, the ground rules, base settings - to get you in the ballpark are. As was clearly explained, too.
@@AntiVaganza There are specific numbers though. They're on the damn welder you're using. It will give you all the numbers you should be running for thickness of metal. And there are definitely PQRs you can use.
@@ebogar42 I mean... yes but actually no. Specially with GTAW. Theese specific numbers on that specific material works for that person and may not work for You. They can give You some inspiration let's say, but You must still read a puddle, and "fine tune" everything with Your hand and pedal if You use one.
And that was the whole idea behind the video. There are settings, yes. But there are also many variables that come to play. And now that's where it comes back to You.
So of course, get inspired by those numbers. I was insipred about them too, but I gave it a good amount of scrap material, lunch breaks and good hours after work to find where I need to be with those numbers and still... I gotta fine tune it with what I do.
Sometimes I don't give a damn and leave it at 80A (for example) all day. I just know I can't put that pedal to the metal on thinner stuff where about 40 is enough. But I'm not looking at the numbers on the machine but at the puddle. And that's it. Read the puddle.
very well put, everything he says is right on the money. If you study, read, and watch every tig welding video for say 6 months, you will have a strong enough fundamental understanding to "know" why your welds aren't coming outright. Settings won't fix bad fit-ups, dirty aluminum, wrong torch angle, arc length etc,....
true straight talk, no bs or crap rap music, competence without arrogance, i like that! thanks for taking the time do do this.
Right on point. It may be harsh but it's true. I've been a welder for more than a decade now and I still find time to practice to hone my skills and that's the reason why I watch these welding channels to gain more knowledge and tricks. Does help a lot. Great job.👍
You would probably need less practice if you knew where to start your settings at instead of just guessing and fucking up a million times like he wants us all to do.
Truer words were never spoken. A perfect weld is something you can bet you life on. I have seen perfect looking welds that broke when least expected. Not enough penetration, not enough overlap. I have years of experience and it only came with practice. I learn something new every time I hold the welder. Every weld is unique.
Jason, I feel your pain, and this was a great video. I was a basic welding trainer at a company I used to work for. Basic, light field repair type stuff. I took the approach of "it's all about puddle mgmt". I would explain how to make the puddle do different things, but in the end, it was up to the welder to "get it right". I just gave them the info on how to affect the puddle......... Great video my friend.
I can highly recommend the TFS class! I took it as an absolute beginner and left feeling like I had a basic knowledge level that I could build from. It really is all hands on and as such, the feedback is instant!
You are the first CZcams welder I started watching and your no bs way of things is why I stay so thank you
Been an aerospace certified welder for almost 20 years with 90% of that Aluminum GTAW. And I need to know those settings now..😁 Excellent video and Subbed!
Great information,I just ordered a prime weld 225 my son and I are going to learn together. Great channel looking forward to learning
I'm planning to do the same thing with my 3 sons (daughter's not on board for some reason.) Teenagers should learn how to weld (amongst a bunch of other things, like shoot, fight, live outdoors, play an instrument, chainsaw stuff, type, etc.) They can be office workers later. But plant the seeds early while you can. "Make hay while the sun shines" is what my mom says. (BTW, the typing thing isn't a joke. Learning typing on a typewriter in grade 9 has saved me probably months of my life in wasted time.)
Pretty much said it perfectly. Just an example of this is for example while I was going to school had people try to argue over what was the perfect setting etc, I was a student so I didn't often tell my secret on how I weld but when people would ask I would tell them I get my settings to a comfortable range so I'm not having to race the machine so to speak. Yes you can weld to hot and you can weld to cold however if your welding hot you could speed your pace up and still get a great weld if your welding to cold use a snail's pace so to speak. I'm glad this isn't hidden from everyone but I feel we should give this more attention get people to realize.
You Nailed Justin it like any skill seat time + knowledge = success
no shortcuts.
You’re just an humor added makes the videos very captivating. I am motivated to keep on trying. I am good at doing everything but this is a tough one. I will get this
BAM! Needed to hear that. I have a new inverter at my house in Sydney to learn during lock down (yep, still in lock down) & this just changed the game....cheers....
I remember when I started, I used to write down all of my mentors settings. 38 years later and I have to explain the same thing to all my apprentices. Welding becomes a feeling, like one with your surroundings. Sight and sound become your best tools. Muscle memory comes later with trial and error. Practice practice practice!
I don't know if it's just me but it took me a good two years to get decent at tig especially when you get into the thinner materials that tend to run. It's frustrating but you'll get there.
I thought I was a decent TIG welder until I moved to Thailand. I had to learn how to TIG weld all over again. Foot petal controlled TIG welders are not readily available. Second in Thailand voltage is usually not constant amount, varying from 170 volts to well over 230.
I've never used a pedal i just use downslope and tap the button towards the end of the weld haha
5:19 Initial settings: 40A / mm !
Exactly what I am looking for, thanks a lot!
Thank you Jedi Mastah! You are our only hope.
new to welding man it sounds complicated all the way from South Africa enjoying your videos and trying to learn from them man you got skills.
I’m a baby fresh brand new welder but I’ve been a barber for 12 years. I could show this video to barber school students and the general ideas would still apply. Just gotta get in the reps. I think for me it outta help having gone though it with a different skill. Thanks for the vids and guidance.
FINALLY! You've been saying this for years but not as succinctly as this video. I've been trying to give this same advice but you have done a better job than I ever could! I will be referring others to this particular video if you don't mind. Far too many novice TIG welders/students NEED to see and hear this. Thank you, Justin!
I just started TIG. The toughest thing I have found is diagnosing the weld I just did. Did I go too fast/slow. Did I have to much torch height, too much filler, not enough filler. Was I too hot or too cold. so far though it's been yes to all of these. I have made some good welds and alot of bad welds. I just wish I had a camera to record each time I weld to see what I do different. What was I physically doing when I made those few good welds or all those bad welds.
The bad thing is, how are you to even to know if your welder/Tig machine is even working right?
I can weld stick & mug all day long but when it comes to using a Tig I’m totally lost at what to even put the amps or anything on. I really think my pedal is messed up. But how am I to know lol
This was the tutorial i needed. Thanx Justin.. Outstanding.
Well said. I'm a 20 year structural welder and I still learn things
love those videos when you weld cast aluminum. Would love to have more of those.
Justin- I’ve been a fan for a few years and I really like your direct approach. For me, that has helped me be able to focus on what is important and just not trouble my mind with stuff that ain’t. I hope one day to come to Vegas for a few days of lessons. That is a bucket list thing for me. Keep it up.
Well Said!!!! I am not a welder, however I do try to weld. Keep it real as you have. Giving the basics is excellent information for guys like me. At 67 going to Vegas for a course might be a bit late for me. You do a great job sir.
Have done most kinds of welding since the 70's Lots of tig in the last 15years too. Just bought a lovely Thermal arc all singing digital ac/dc machine. Never done alloy so had a few goes. This is why i watch your video's. I thought i had done it all until i had a pool of molten alloy on the floor. Thank you . keep up the good work. From the UK.
I just picked up the AHP you said wasn’t too bad, after one bottle of argon I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on all the different metals. I got a coping kit and a multi metal kit from weldmetals online it was definitely worth it
I just got an AHP as well. Started with weld metals online steel kit. Well worth the investment.
@@4WillyD you should try the multimetal kit 👍 titanium is super interesting!
Excellent. If you could also keep in mind that you have many followers in countries where inches don’t mean anything and simply quoting the equivalent millimeters would bring them immediate clarity and be highly appreciated 😊
100%! Been welding for 6 months now and when I go out to the shop I switch the machine on, open the gas valve, gear up and weld. Unless I'm changing material I don't touch the machine again. When I got started I was quite surprised at how little you fiddle with settings once you get going.
I subscribed; best (non-welding) welding advice I've heard to date!
AMEN! I used to be a fairly decent TIG welder until I lost most of my vision. Still trying, but what makes it difficult is the difference of vision in my eyes. The left is 20/400 and the right is fairly useless. So, without depth perception, trying to get the filler ron to the puddle is time consuming. I had been welding mostly 4130 thin wall tube for dragsters but, this is impossible now. I just burn holes in the time it takes to get the filler rod to the puddle. If I spent a whole lot on a rig, I could have better control of the amperage and maybe do better, but for now I am just trying to lay a structurally competent bead in mild steel. It is not the settings, it is the welder. I have cheaters stacked on cheaters and wear reading glasses also. Just recently spent some real money on a hood that filters the light better, but that is an issue of my disability. I applaud this video as there is absolutely no substitute for experience and TIME with a torch in your hand. I learned TIG on a very old Marquette welder. Amperage was changed by where you plugged the power lead into the machine. Turn on the gas at the bottle and scratch start. TIG is like the old joke about the guy who is lost in NY city and asks a stranger how to get to Carnegie Hall. "Practice son, Practice!".....
Great Honest Information !! 😊
Learn your basics, and then comes the dedicated seat time !!
No different than learning to play a guitar Etc.
“YOU MUST PAY YOUR DUES” 💯
Great analogy for settings. The greatest missing piece if knowledge I've found is what does the puddle look like.
Cannot find good video or photos of various puddles of starters/pros with explanations and yet the puddle will tell you everything that is happening and will happen.
Many settings can produce the same ideal puddle in context but steps on how to take puddle X and get it to ideal is missing out there. Eg, needs more amps, reduce argon flow.
I only own an inverter stick welder, but the same principle applies. Ones I realised that the integrity of the weld is more important than the esthetics, my welding automatically started to look progressively better as my ability to controll the puddle improved. Thanks for affirming that!! 😁
I'm glad this is happening. Ive been at this for years. Slow and full.of trial and error. Wanting to expant my skill sets.
The information here was great. Life has too many variables and we've been programmed to the path of lease resistance. Fast food, fast cash, fast skills, and the truth about quality is the exact opposite. Thanks again.
On the subject of settings. The first TIG welder I ever used about 30 years ago was an old Hobart from the 1940's or 50's. This machine was about 3' wide x 4-1/2' tall and about 6' long. It had a 25 gallon integrated water cooler. This Hobart was a dinosaur and it had practically zero settings other than amp output. It was a really smooth, easy to produce nice, proper welds machine. I'm glad I learned on that machine. As a beginner, I would have no idea what to do with all the setting on the Everlast 350 ext which I currently rock.
As a tig welder for almost 15 years and working in everything from architectural products(benches and trash cans), to medical and aerospace. I am always asked how I got as good as I am and the answer is always the same practice and thousands of hours of it. In the years I have helped younger welders hone skills and even walked beginners who have never run a bead to be able to at least make a decent looking weld while flat. I do like playing a joke on some people of welding around an inch with eyes closed and no mask on just because it also become muscle memory if it is something you weld often like .065 stainless you do all the time.
Awsome to hear this. been welding for years and just start TIG 1 week ago. focus on your work not others. at the end of the day its your work piece not others. Practice. Try things. learn what they do for you.
Love your videos. No BS is the way to go.
That’s true what you said practice the much you can my first tig weld and started weld aluminum and practice on my garage every day after work and started weld chrome moly
And got bad time set up but I got watching your video thank you
Love your videos, they have helped me tremendously since I started tig welding... Seat time is the only way to progress in anything you learn.
Setting are a good starting point that’s it! Just like stick and mig welding!
I agree with you 90%.... I do a lot of aluminum tig welding, and It sure helps knowing how to use my frequency for thick and thin aluminum, and different welds and setting my balance correctly for clean or dirty metals .... just my opinion.practice does make perfect, but it sure helps knowing how to use these tools
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It took me 5 yrs, 3 welders, and a class to figure this out❗ 😄
A lot of the old tig welders like my old Linde don't have exact settings. You have a dial that is scaled between min and max and in my case, there are 3 settings for min amps but max possible amps for the top two are the same ~360 amps. So if you wanted more heat you turned up max amps and if you thought your ramp was too steep for what you are welding then you turn it down some. I don't have a readout that says how many amps are set and a lot of the old welders were that way. The new inverter welders are nice with digital settings for all of the parameters and the pulse and frequency settings on the inverters I think do help with some aluminum welds but a lot of parts have been tig welded without exact settings to go to.
well said sir. video true for so many things in life. there is no easy button so don’t expect there to be. Time, practice, and knowledge will get you the skill and wisdom to perform.
Thank you sir 🙏. Pure honest talk.
You just hurt some feelings and made grown men cry. Imagine if this was a zoom meeting. Lots of screens would go blank lol
Hey man you might not see this but as a beginner welder in the navy, I really appreciate your helpful videos, and I hope you continue ! We work only on aluminum where I’m at and you’ve been very helpful and entertaining
This is exactly what I have tried to tell my apprentices for years, that i will teach you one way and some will teach you anther, it is up to you to find out what works for you, settings and technique.
1:48 you don't have to ask the pilot, the manufacturer determines a set of parameters which is ideal for landing that aircraft. He's coming in at a certain airspeed, at a specific descent angle, at a certain flap setting. Those are 100% parameters the pilot does not get to choose on the fly.
Just like there are a set of standardized parameters which work for most GTAW setups. Now, like the pilot example you can't run the aircraft into the ground, there is user skill required but there are a range of parameters that are going to allow the brand new student to have better success than they would otherwise.
I don't think I've ever heard a better explanation ! Some of these guys need to think of something they're already Good at and Realize how they Got Good At It. They may gave had some guidance but the rest comes from "Within"
Hey there... I've been watching your videos for sometime now.... I have to say... your explanations are well put together!
It made all the sense to me when you said, settings and fancy cups are not going to make you a better welder... I've been a finish carpenter for over 40 years... It's not about settings...
I recently purchased the Everlast 200 DV and got my Argon bottles filled and I'm ready to go... I've never tig welded before but I'm going for it...
It's all about practice as much as you can....and slight changes tell you what you need to improve upon...
I love it! I'm sure there are gonna be many people crying when they see this video.. "What do you mean I have to practice?" Haha! Excellent video!
The pilot knows what settings to use at every time during the flight. How much thrust to use and when. When to use flaps, and by how much.
I don’t think most people expect to be told the EXACT numbers for settings, just close enough to get into the ballpark. When I’m asked, I may say start at about 80 amps, and see how it looks. But you have to have information about where to start, which is why manufacturers give starting settings.
But after that, it comes down to experience, knowledge and skill.
I agree and the information he gave out was trash. Settings of where to start out at are very important, but won't be exactly the same for everyone.
Welder from Spain EU, I´m completely agree, great lesson, great channel.
Thank you , miss your vids. All the best
Where I feel social media has opened the trade to many who otherwise would have never been exposed, which is great. I also think it sets some unrealistic standards for inexperienced welders to try and achieve. They dont realize that the welds on Instagram is the 600th weld of the day that just turned out perfect while the other 599 were serviceable but not perfect. Or that the 15 minute perfect weld coupon on youtube was 6hrs of filming and human error was edited out. Again setting somewhat unrealistic standards for someone without 4000hrs of practice and experience. I applaud Justin and TFS for making this statement that needs to be made. And I think one of the greatest videos Ive ever seen was on the extreme coping challenge where you kept track of your fouled tungstens. Thats the reality new folks need to see. It takes time and patience for the good days to outnumber the bad in this trade.
Great video mate. I’m a sheet metal worker by trade, often I’ve finished a job earlier than I quoted and the customer says “oh, it was done quicker so you should charge me less for labour” and my response is “you aren’t paying for the time on the job, you’re paying for the time it’s taken me to practice and perfect my trade to do the job”. This is one of the reasons why this applies! I could tell the customer “2mm stainless steel butt joint, use 37 amps and keep pace with the weld pool” but I can guarantee they won’t do a good job.
I would, give you ten thumbs up if I could. Nothing teaches someone how to weld better than actual hands on. Good job and thanks a bunch for all your videos and informations.
What a commendable lecture you shared about TIG welding sir. Thank you!
Great video! I was fortunate to pick up Tig welding fairly fast with a good mentor. I've tried to pass it on to people interested, some great stick or mig welders, and I'm not a good teacher. But some just get it and some dont.
Justin, great video and information, have a Merry Christmas.....cheers from Orlando, Florida, Paul
How true, how true! I am just beginning to learn tig welding and i watched a lot of videos. None of them were worth spit compared to 10 minutes of running a torch myself.
Nicely put Justin 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
It's a great compliment to your skills that people can watch your very concise videos and think they can buy a welder and replicate the results immediately. I try to take as much knowledge as I can everytime you post a video.
I'm about 150hrs deep into learning stick welding. Only now have I developed the skill to do flat, vertical, horizontal and 45° welding consistently. Overhead and pipe are still a world away.
Welding is definitely skills more than settings, I am using completely different amperage to what works for my tutor.
I also weld with a different technique to all tutorials I have seen online. Welding by observation and feel of the weld pool and keyhole is the only thing that works for me.
Justin... Gid bless you. As simple as that.
Can ask you to broadcast some mig welding
What a brilliant way to put it. A shitload of thumbs up. I like your style. If you are an impatient person, don't even try to learn. Or do you ever really learn it all? Seriously thinking about taking your best advice and making flight arrangements to head down for a week. Greatly enjoy your videos. Do you ever have any down time? Always heard if you never slow down you never grow old. May we all be immortal as long as we're having fun. Peace
Hi Justin one problem with what you'r saying is in the land of Australia is we are just getting foot pedal machine for the hobbiest. Up till not long ago we on had scatch start, so setting ment a lot more to us but in saying that practice has no replacment. Thank you for not bullshitting.
Welding for a very long time... but I didn't hear you say " setting for one machine is usually different for the next machine.
I also heard him say settings aren't important which is bullshit.
@@ebogar42 settings are not incredibly important they are just a benchmark and can be messed around with to things that when you are being taught shouldnt work when you hear it. For example prior to my first job the hottest I had ever welded with MIG was 24.5 volts and about 450-485 wire feed speed on 3/8 plate then I get to my first job and I found out you can easily weld on 1/8 inch mild steel at 26 volts 585 wire feed speed and still have it look nice and not burn through that being said you are doing the boot scoot and boogy to out pace the heat.
@@zachpiller7653 I think I got you. I think my main issue is my pace. I'm too slow. I'm never pacing along. 😂
@@ebogar42 Yeah Im in my last week at my first job and its a fabshop that does a lot of production work and they quote the one off jobs and TIG jobs as MIG production jobs and it makes you learn to boogy along the fastest ive run was about 30 volts 850 ipm with a 3/8 weld sat on a stool with big caster wheels on it pushing myself along fairly quickly was a 100% weld that was about 7 feet long and had 90 parts to do.
Two different operators on the same machine can use different settings and achieve the same results
I agree with for the most part. But full pinwelds using pulse having good settings helps a lot.
Well articulated truth.
Best welding video Iv seen yet....
Yes! This is really good.
I don't make pretty welds, I have an angle grinder to fix that!
I also have no idea what my welder is doing while I am welding, I only know what the weld puddle is doing.
A couple decades ago I was teaching someone to drive. It took a similar level of explanation when I was asked "How far round do you turn the wheel to get the car around a corner?". My learner was looking for a position to turn the wheel to for each type of bend, corner, junction. Of course, all drivers know it doesn't work that way, but the learner didn't. It is the same with any feed back responsive skill, you can only respond to what is happening in front of you.
Getting ready for welding school this fall at my local community college. I already knew this but I needed to hear someone say this. Thank you.
Congratulations! 40 years a welder here, MIG, TIG 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Put in the hood time and there's always video's to watch which we didn't have back in the day. I charge 80-120 an hour and never lack for work
His info is trash. I'm in college for welding. Settings do matter when you're learning how to weld and even after. You will get a lot of fucked up welds if you don't know basic settings for the metal you're welding on.
Great start to the topic. The majority of the welding examples posted on Instagram (or the various other platforms) look great, however, the issue is that the majority of the welds will never be subjected to testing or use. The "dimes" that have become so dominant for appearance, can at times be an automatic failure or rejection. The visually appealing colors that many have come to accept as a standard, again like the "dimes", can be an automatic failure. Especially when material types are taken into consideration. Doing a sanitary weld for FDA approved equipment, are there distinct "dimes" present, failure due to excessive surface abnormalities. Every weld requires context, as every application is specific. Settings are starting points, general guidelines, the handy tags on the inside of the panels say exactly that. If you really want to master welding, then you need to master the entire process, the concept, the theory, the application, have a grasp on the physics involved. Most people that teach welding always skip over a main concept, you are always welding blind. You don't see the weld happening, you see the effects of the weld process (molten puddle, puddle size, arc cone, arc length, etc). The post weld process feedback is what is used to make corrections, so the more you know about what is actually happening during the process, the better off you will be. Again, great start to the subject.
It’s the rules of thumb you mentioned that people need to know and understand. Amp per thou etc. Welding is a constant variable in reality. You just need to know what gets you started on your test setup. Thanks for making this video. I now have something to show people who think welding is like some kind of binary yes / no / on / off situation.
Looking forward to the next time I’m in Vegas so I can take a class
Thank you very much Justin. This is definitely a great video . Definitely the settings are so very important every procedure.
I'm baffled that you needed to address this issue Justin. Over the years n hundreds of videos you've put out to help people I thought you made it quite clear what tig welding is n the process involved in getting better. From what you should be looking for n seeing with the puddle to what changing frequency n balance does to the aluminum. As far as I'm concerned you've done your job as much as you can through videos to help people understand what tig welding is n what all the different variables do to change the process
I'm baffled at how you think TIG settings or any other settings don't matter. They do a lot. It's not all just experience. You're going to fuck up a lot if you don't know that your gas can't be too high, amps be too low or high, electrodes of different size require more or less amps. Do you really think students should just learn on their own where they should start out? I bet how close the air vent is doesn't matter either, huh? That never causes porosity at all.
Great video, I've been welding for 40 years plus I know that makes me sound old I was 14 when I started lol it is practice practice and practise how you have explained it it is perfect
I used to live less than 2 miles from your school. I'd love to go. For now I'll just watch because I'm pretty new and I finally have my own cheap TIG setup I got for about a thousand bucks.