Tesla Model 3 Under $40K w/ Full EV Tax Credit! Batteries, Range, & Upgrades
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- čas přidán 21. 06. 2024
- Episode 393: Francie gives you a quick update on Tesla's Model 3 (Refresh) pricing with the new EV tax credit options. She compares the different options and values for the Long Range, RWD, and Performance options so you have all the info to compare when shopping for any EV on the market.
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It seems they are doing everything they can to make all their vehicles qualify for the tax credit so I'm sure they are busy trying to figure out a scenario for the RWD, because right at this moment the LR is the obvious choice if you qualify for the tax credit. For a little more money you get the upgraded stereo, higher performance and AWD. Now, if they do what they did with the Y and give the RWD a Panasonic battery, make it slightly longer range and with tax credit it would be low $30,000's after tax credit, then it would be a value option.
I live in Wisconsin, all wheel drive is more important than battery type.
I don't live in snow country, but some say snow tires are more important than all-wheel drive. When I lived in Michigan eons ago, nobody had all-wheel drive
@@rp9674snow tires help but when you get dumped on, AWD wins hands down. And that comes from a Wisconsin driver that cut their drivering teeth driving late 60s rear wheel drive and remembers snow tires and tire chains needed where now AWD walks away.
@michaelwitkiewicz7052 my dad brought back limburger from Wis, bad times
Thank You Francie for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste
🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤
I have 2014 BMW I3 I did a all city range test and got 80 miles out of the pack with 3.5% left so for a small 19Kwh battery pack I have plenty of range
On major advantage of the i3 is it’s light weight. Under 3000 lbs due to carbon fiber construction and small battery. There are only 2 states of existence as an i3 owner, enjoying everything about it or regretting that decision to sell it. BTW I have the 2019 model with range extender. Total range on paper is 237 miles.
15 REX, wifey loves it, got a Bolt last year for long range. Some consider the bolt to be an EV for around town, which sounds insane, 259 miles...around town?! I also have a 15 Fiat 500e
I bought a Tesla Model Y last year (2023) and I did get the $7,500 off my taxes. It was perfect timing because that might be the only year I actually owed more than $7,500 in taxes. It was nice because when I bought my Model 3 in 2022 there was no incentive because under the old program Tesla has already sold too many cars and run out of credits. Not only did I get the tax credit on my Model Y it was $20,000 cheaper than if I had bought it in 2022 when I got the Model 3.
Ty Francie.
VF should send people to customers to see how everything is going and fix remotely what they can.
I agree with Francie that the RWD Model 3 has plenty of range, 272 mi, for daily driving (assuming home or work charging), and occasional road trips. I also agree that the LR model would be nice for people that road trip a lot, with more range and faster charging.
I wish Tesla would offer a long range RWD model again (I have a 2018 LR RWD 3), like they now do for the Model Y. Extra bonus points if Tesla would use the higher power rear motor from the Performance model. For super bonus points, if Tesla could somehow figure out how to get over 400 miles range with it, then I would have to upgrade. 😀
Cheers Francie
Good afternoon
I just bought my 2024 Tesla M3 LR June 1st of this year. Can I submit form 8396 to try and receive the federal tax credit? It wasn't offered at the point of purchase when I bought, but not sure if I am able to receive this tax credit?
I've had two Model 3 LR AWD (had to get the second one after the first one was totaled by a reckless driver) - the second is the 2024 refresh. I think it's important that people who are buying an EV understand what real world range they'll get - how it's impacted by weather, speed, wind, etc. - because I'm wary of the fear mongering news stories about EVs (recently, the story about people "trapped in their Tesla" when really it was a case of people not knowing the safety features of their car). I'd hate to see stories about people who can't take a road trip wherever they want to because there isn't enough charging and range to get there, which discourages the move from gas cars to EVs. One place I couldn't go, even with my old car's 300 miles of range, was Glacier NP. With the new car, I can now go there and back on one charge. It will be even easier if they ever open the Kalispell supercharger. Even if people only have the rare road-trip, they should probably buy the car with the largest range. Tesla's supercharger network is amazing and allows people to go just about anywhere they want to go, even if they need to be a little flexible with the route they take or where they charge (eg hotels, RV parks, available 6-11kw chargers). But other manufacturers rely on charging networks that aren't as plentiful or reliable. People buying EVs other than Tesla should probably get the most range they can afford if they ever want to go places outside a 100 mile radius from their home.
The Model 3s 0-60 time is impressive! But what is even more impressive is the Model 3s rate of depreciation!
0-60 in 2.9 sec
$40k-$20k in 2.9 months
…thanks Elon 😂😂
Yeah, the 2 yr. Old Teslas with 90,000 miles on them can be bought for low $20k. So $38k down to low 20s however a $38,000 2022 Toyota Camry is only worth $18,000-$22,000 with 90,000 miles on it too. Pretty much the same loss in value.
Oh yeah, I forgot that many EVs got up to $12,500 in tax credits so the real cost to buy the EV was much less than a Toyota.
It doesnt matter if you keeep your car until the end of its life... you get your moneys worth..
Thanks Francie. Great pricing especially with the full tax credit. My opinion is that the Model Y Juniper is just not ready for launch yet and the model 3 Highland (refresh) was ready. I personally would prefer the standard model 3 because I like the LFP battery (charge to 100%) but it only gets half the tax credit.
fueleconomy.gov/feg/tax2023.shtml for your reference; unless I missed it, the 2024 Model 3 RWD isn't listed as qualified for any federal tax credit. Oh btw the 2024 Model 3 Long Range AWD's EPA est. range is 341 miles, and at 80% state of charge it should get a driving range of 272 miles, that's practically the same as the 2024 Model 3 RWD at 100% state of charge.
Is the video recorded from the mic? Sounds like your recording on a laptop mic
The RWD isn’t a value anymore without the credit. But for me, the Y is still what I would go for because it’s the only EV that I have seen that has a 3500 pound tow rating for the lowest price. I would prefer a different brand, because I’m not a huge fan of Elon, but they still make the most well rounded EV’s. If only Hyundai/Kia could get some of their overseas models here faster, they would have the most well rounded portfolio. We need the EV2, EV3, and EV5, asap! Although I know a big hurdle for them is getting them manufactured in the states to get the tax credit.
I'd have a Tesla If I drove
I think they refreshed the M3 for a few reasons.
1. It was the slightly older platform
2. The Y seems to me to have had more “under the hood” improvements over the 3 despite being slightly newer
3. Most importantly IMO is that they wanted to take any lessons learned from refreshing the 3 that, they sell less of, before doing it to the Y to try to minimize problems for their most sold vehicle
This and also MY started outselling the M3. You can’t blow up the money maker by pausing production for upgrades
Also comes with the standard feature of dramatically losing value the next time that they decide to slash prices...
Invest in a 401k or an ira, not a car
Finally someone's covering Tesla.
I finally got my California $2000 for my 23 Bolt 11 mo later. I thought I had filed, but their website is so bad it turns out I didn't filed it late got on a waiting list because the program has been discontinued. Net cost $20,500
It gets me from A to B with a side trip to C, comfortably
The price of vf8 is higher 10k but has less range than model 3 . What a shame !
Testla đang học theo các nhà sản xuất China. Họ lao vào cuộc chiến giãm giá để loại bỏ các đối thủ 😅
Thật điên rồ khi người mua năm trước phát hiện ra họ đang rao bán chiếc xe với giá cao hơn cả chiếc mới sản xuất trong năm nay 😂
Got a lot of distracting hand gestures going on there Francie.
These Tesla cars are not under 40k. They are 41k+. They do not include destination charges like other manufacturers...
True. Crazy how people think that Tesla offers a good value for money. Without the billions and billions of direct and indirect subsidies and the trade barriers and regulations which are limiting international competition, Tesla would be selling a few thousand cars which cost 50k even for the entry version.
@@bullshitbingo2259what’s crazy is the BS you wrote.
@@shou635 better educate yourself on this topic. Tesla netted a 6 billion dollars tax gain in 2023 alone, put that into relation to the total of 15 billion net income....
They have received tax credits/refunds etc for years due to their losses in the earlier years. Established companies do not benefit the same here. The $7500 tax credit for customers who buy a mostly american made EV benefits Tesla by far the most because they controlled 75% of the US EV market in the past years (which is massively diclining now!). Other companies were excluded or had to set up an additional production line in the US which is expensive and takes time.
On top of that there are local tax benefits for EVs which differ from state to state. The import tax and trade restrictions like limiting the sales of semiconductors on chinese EVs and demanding a 100% import tax is a big win for Tesla as well. On the other hand Tesla profited hugely from chinese EV tech like battery cells and battery packs.
Tesla gets massive subsidies to build up their factories in the states and counties, they get subsidies for industrial electricity etc.
You also have the CO2-emissions trade where Tesla can sell "CO2-certificates" to other companies which exceed their CO2-emissions level and would otherwise have to pay a fine to the government/regulatory agency. This CO2-certificate trade is very lucrative for Tesla. Take all of that away and what is left from Tesla?!
Without the federal and local tax credit programs alone way less people would buy a Tesla EV.
Now imagine you get 10k tax credit for buying a combustion car instead, how many cars would Tesla sell then?! Probably close to zero.
Tesla only achieved to make a profit for 2 years now thanks to all the benefits it enjoys.
Tesla is a gigantic state sponsored company with mediocre technology
@@shou635True, that guy is in an alternate facts universe.
@@rcpmac nah I totally agree here. The tax credit system, the import taxes and trade restrictions are ridiculous and the prices for Teslas are too high for the specs they offer
Fisker are dying
Sadly yes. A good car made bad by punk software developers. Hopefully it will be rescued by someone. There’s rumors of Tata motors India taking it. They probably could buy the design and rights by just assuming warranty liability for those current vehicle owners.
They'll be fine, just going through a little growing pain