Salty K-POP Opinions Cuz LE SSERAFIM's Coachella Performance was Mediocre.
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0:00 LESSERAFIM's Coachella performance
3:04 Wonyoung &Yujin
3:51 The Y2K trend
5:04 Touring Cities
6:21 Idols -turned-CEOs
7:47 Woo!Ah!'s comeback
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People saying their choreo is too difficult.. LOL! What more is ATEEZ bone-breaking choreo but still managed to sing live
no but fr 😭
Real 😭 like how is it possible for le sserafim to have questionable vocals despite their choreo not even being as difficult in comparison to ateez.
Even standing still in their encores they struggled.
ATEEZ ate that fr
@@vixxexo6855 who? le seraphim or ateez?
the thing i hate is how lesserafim’s bad performance act is getting so much more clout than ateez??? Can we hype up the ones that actually took it to the next level and made coachella unforgettable. their hardwork was showing unlike lesserafim , it felt like they didn’t put any extra effort to perform at the standard set for coachella. i feel so bad about it now , lesserafim is overshadowing ateez for all the wrong reasons
I definitely believe Ateez deserves more recognition for their coachella performance and that everyone is talking about lesserafim for the wrong reasons. However, I personally believe they did put in the effort for their performance. It's just that some of their vocal skills couldn't keep up.
People prefer negativity unconsciously. If positivity gained more engagement, then ktubers would post them. But it doesn't pay to talk about ATEEZ'
Ateez doing good won't get them any view that's why.
@@motherhoodsbeauty9279 thank you. That's what I have been trying to tell people. They can't talk about ATEEZ' because everyone knows that ATEEZ has a very spot clean reputation and therefore people can't exactly judge them without being looked at as a hater.
Trust me, if ATEEZ woke up tomorrow and decided to become sloppy, they would be on the front cover of all Korean news sites.
Even the media is talking more about LSF than them, because they know that people like negativity rather than positivity.
You'd think after us wanting positive vibes after Quarantine people would want that. But nope, they went straight back to negativity and it sucks that ATEEZ has to suffer like this.
They were the highlight and still weren't able to shine because people just can't get past the fact that they are just good and don't cause controversy everyday. 🤷
@@jass029love7 yeah i agree, they’re just not ready for coachella to begin with . Theyre still super new so its just obvious that their company completely pushed them to go for it without preparation
Dont JUST DONT compare lsf's cochella to Blackpink's cochella stage. BP slayed
People should talk about ateez too. They did much better than lsrfm
@@songkang3xsrvx they are bein talked about a lot tbh for their performance and were ranked 2nd best amongst the cochella performances of groups by timesnow . Lsf cant even be compared to Ateez 😭
Fr, I'm not a BP Stan, but they really gave it their all
@@Gojo-ki-poookie Ateez rocked the stage but people are only talking about lsrfm. My girl sing live, they were jumping, this that 😂😂
@@songkang3xsrvx fans have adjusted their standards to the bare minimum. Who r they tryna convince? Themselves only🥴
Also, i heard they promoted stanley too on their cochella stage, a possible collab maybe? I mean that was embarrassing ngl
“Those vocals were as absent as my ex on commitment day” oof as we say in French “balle perdue” 😂
Là elle les a mitraillé
@@mimi09126 ah mais réellement 😭😭
MDRRR
Là pour ABATTRE l'ennemi
priceless comment
Lol im so embarrassed for the fear nots defending them. Like Ateez was there too. They sang and danced too sweety. Calm down and accept the fact that your faves are not the all-rounders that you make them to seem like they are.
THISSS! These Le sserafilm fans are delulu af thinking their group was the only one that had choreo and was trying their best to sing on stage when literally ATEEZ did that shit too on stage. Every other group that performed at Coachella did that shit too. They are expecting a free pass for their girls when the performance was literally below mid level smh
Right, I didn't see them doing any bone breaking performances and they still managed to have horrible vocals lol, their fans are in denial...
Yooo I love sakura I'm a sucker for pretty faces at the end of the day, and for me eunchae and maybe even kazuha are the main problem of the group, but her statement is just as delulu and indenial as her fans. Like as a consumer of music and supporter of performers, what are we supposed to say if a group obviously did not do a good job? What are we supposed to say when the obvious criticism is just made out to be "forced hate"? Do we just accept? Do other kpop groups who could do better, but doesn't have the same success just have to accept? The fans are not your friends applied to this but now towards the idol, I've been saying that the most valid criticism a fan could give to their idols is about their performances. some of this idols expect their fans just to lie to them, comfort them, accept them, clap and cheer for them even if they are obviously not performing well. Like the comments in her statement is just absurd, I saw someone saying they atleast look great🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yall mad bcoz people dgaf about ateez 😂😂😂
Except kpopers everyone loved the group's performance
And the whole “they’ve been here longer so of course their better” thing like 2019 MAMA ATEEZ wouldn’t have easily soloed Coachella le sserafim
Blackpink built the image of kpop in coachella, and LSFM casually ruined all the hardwrok :D
ATEEZ SAVED COACHELLA 2024
Ruin? Like blackpink didn't built them properly then
"Eunchae sounded like she was auditioning for a role in Cats, the alley version" JEEZ YOU DID NOT HOLD BACK 😭😭😭💀💀💀
And i don't like people bringing up "they've improved" argument..like it's not about improvement it's not their debut we are talking about where we can applause for the bare minimum it's Coachella.. artist had set a standard for performances
their fans are delulu about these idols
Frrrr
People like their music -> people bias them -> people defend them like they're are their husbands/wives.
Right said. From the singer we expect to sing properly.
Sorry we expected too much 😜😂😂
Amazing facts - In the k-pop industry you can be a singer without even singing a proper 1 or 2 line , It's hilarious. 😂😂
Their standards are just low af
I didn't know that screaming is equal to singing..watching coachella clips is giving me major cringe and second hand embarrassment.I actually thought yunjin can sing..but i guess i was wrong. Chaewon was bearable
Yunjin can sing. You have to realise that singing while running, crawling and dancing is really hard. They're going out of breath most of the time.
@@jayem9038Ateez didn't die singing live and dancing hard.
Screaming is a strategy, when you can’t sing😂
@@jayem9038 Please don't be delusional, other company artists can sing perfectly just like studio version with vigorous dancing. The problem is with hype, why don't they give their artists proper vocal training even after the intense criticism they are facing. Anyone can sing 'decently' enough maybe not 'extraordinarily' if given proper vocal training.I'm beginning to think that yunjin used to know how to sing but forgot when she came to hybe
Yunjin sounds horrible among all the members..my ears got holes after listening to them
Le sserafim's skills are so bad that their stans can't even defend them and resort to saying that they don't have to be a good singer to be an idol
Their fan videos on Instagram are literally blaming every fandom in kpop for hating their performances, when literally it’s their fans lmfaooo
Fearnots are so delusional and annoying.. this is why their faves don’t seem to improve at all 😭😭
Nahh because this is so true. It's either them saying "but they have hard choreo", " They improved alot", "it isn't that bad the crowd enjoyed" And there was even one saying in Coachella please get drunk and shit. Really?? Oh my god the amount of people being obsessed is cray cray
I can defend them by saying they did good at Chachalla but you won't want to hear that.
@@nubelinda And lesserfim haters are a bunch of trolls that think achieved something by throwing hate at them. The haters will keep whining, while lesserfim will keep winning.
I’m not even a ateez fan but I really enjoyed their performance, but it feels like they made zero noise, they deserve better.
Same. How did Lesserafim go viral for their performance but Ateez didn't? Maybe because Ateez's music is not that appealing to western general public.
I meann the clip of them taking a shot went around a bit I guess ?? 🤷♀️😭
FR!!! I guess it’s because there’s nothing to complain about lmao, you mostly only hear about it if something bad/ pretty outrageous happens at a performance. People like drama!! 😭
@@Joonpathyappealing to western general public?? Id just say that they’re significantly less popular in the first place that leserrafim in America. The crowd was hyped asf during ateez’s performance
Idk because I’ve seen SO MANY hit tweets and quite a few viral TikTok’s since their performance and they’ve had a few local accounts with over 200k followers asking about them. I guess it just depends what’s on your feed
Ngl.. le sserafim at Coachella was HORRIFIC.
Babe, when I saw it live I was shook, in the ABSOLUTE WORST WAY POSSIBLE.
Honey.....they tried..and they tried hard..
But it wasn't it AT ALL.
Bless my eardrums because as a singer, those vocals might've killed em.
Preach.
Yes and no excuses can save them from this embarrassment. Its Coachella. I don't know what preparation they have made. They maybe thought they'll just perform and people will forgive their vocals.
I'm worried for the ears of the audience.
@@MsAZYou Exactly .... !
It's Coachella, like.. that's serious for a KPOP act.
I thought that maybe Le sserafim could eat during coachella but nah..the food was COLD. And only Chaewon ate tbh.
@@MsAZYouI think its hybe problem. We see this type of problem to illit and newjeans too. Lol
It’s getting ridiculous already.. and if I was Korean, I would change nationality 😭 it’s so embarrassing and I cringed so much!
Me and my siblings were watching Ateez and then we watch lesserafim ...They were like, "Are they really an idol. Why they can't sing tho " 😅
Whyy are comparing le sserafirm with BLACKPINK, BLACKPINK PINKCHELLA is better than other kpop groups , and blackpink did there best in cochella so stop , but lesserafirm was just screaming and shouting or ntf , other than blackpink who slayedd at cochella was ATEEZ , and lesserafim performance is ntg Infront of ateez and blackpink performance
And The Rose ^^
Poor ateez they worked hard to be swept under the rug i saw this tweet and i agree that gg. Stan's always use the the "women" card as a women myself NO they need to realize bbg stans and even blinks don't really do anything to in the group itself women should help women well let's be honest ❤
Love your videos 🎉☺️
Blackpink had by far the best performance at Coachella. They weren't criticized for vocals or stage presence, not afraid to sing, even if their dances are easier, that's a good strategy. Aespa takes the silver because they had the best vocals, stable and powerful, but at the time their stage presence was lacking (I bet they could go now, and they would do much better)
Blackpink can't sing and dance. They needed hundreds of back up dancers to make them look good.
@@LeeYang-dw6fn idk what having dancers have to do with their abilities. Lesserafim, 2ne1 and Aespa also brought dancers (?)
Aespa still have bad stage presence.
@@LeeYang-dw6fn ??? 2019 they came w no dancers
@@LeeYang-dw6fnthey danced and sing live in bith of their performances
No matter what's anyone's point, if you're a professional musician, you're supposed to be able to sing
professional singer* not all musicians sing.. Maybe don't speak on things if you don't understand the basics
@@thatsfxxkinodd you got my point
@@thatsfxxkinodd that's the point? They ARE professional singers yet they still can't sing
They’re called Idols, not singers. Part of being an idol is a performance aspect, which they did a very good job in
@@vivid_blossomsas you said it's a PART to entertain, another part is SINGING
And miss girl yun Jin swearing “Coachella are you f*cking ready” ummm girl😂 and later she’s like “let’s play that sh*t” 😂😂😂 i was like,we get it babes ur In America now try to sing on key. I applauded her for staying confident because I’d crawl back stage and die if I was that cocky in the beginning “yeah lets f*cking go” and gave an ass of a performance 🫣🤦♀️
She in smart
Le sserafim....... in ViCTory 🥴
They did give a good performance, did you hear the crowd?
@@vivid_blossomsstop the cap💀
@@user-xe7oz3yd6h nope ✨
overall, they gave a good performance
@@vivid_blossoms nope I didn’t hear the crowd but I did hear every single voice crack , off key moment. And if you go watch the full live stream there’s a part where she say « did you enjoy tonight » and you can hear some dudes yellling « NO! »💀
The most unfortunate and upsetting thing for me, is lsf bad live performance overshadowed the iconic and immaculate performance ateez just gave, they always gave their all but they literally went insane in coachella since it's a special stage for them. Too bad for them lsf awful live is the only thing people are gonna talk about lol. With the level of performance they gave, everyone and their mothers should've been an atiny now but nope, unfortunately it's not gonna be about you boys 😂. Seriously tho i genuinely feel bad
I don't think it's that bad, they were praised by the media and had some viral tiktoks and tweets, sadly a lot of it were taken down by coachella due to copyrights since they used clips from the live stream. But their content reached over 12 million people since coachella so I guess they are doing fine. In the end of the day, people are always gonna gossip about the bad things anyway hahah
Fans need to expect the truth. Their choreography not even hard,but they are out of breath. What the hell???????
None of them deserve to be debuted except chaewon .
I am thinking if I also could become a kpop idol in hybe. I think I will be better then them😂.
@@B.A.R.B.I.E I feel the same sometimes 🫠
@@mimi-tv5mf I can dance good and my vocal are great too, my looks are not that bad too , korean make up can make ugly people stunning . Soo we should really consider debuting.🤣🤣
They were just standing most of their parts lol
@@B.A.R.B.I.Ego girl you really can 😅
Every company is debuting new group with good Vocalist except hybe
Lol the ignorance 😂
They cant afford vocal training lessons, all the money is used in payola😞
@@Alwy2209 what?
@@Gojo-ki-poookie why depend on company though?? They are rich enough to take personal lessons
@@songkang3xsrvxit’s the companies job. I do agree that they should just rely on the company but they are under Source Music/HYBE for are reason. To be taught and improve in singing and dancing.
Ateez set the standards high
Lsfm as low as possible
well ateez also went to chochella why no one is talking about that
Because le sserafim bad performance and singing is overshadowing ATEEZ amazing COACHELLA performance.
@@IhaveDelulupotatos EXACTLY ATEEZ SAVED KPOP AND MADE US FEEL PROUD 😍😍😍😍😍
@@IhaveDelulupotatos BUT THE CAMERA SUCKSSSSSSSSSS
"To be honest, dancing isn't that important. Singing is the most important. If you can't sing well, no matter how good you are at dancing, you won't look talented"- xiumin
Who is xiumin , jisoo outsings xiumin lol
@@ketakikhobragade7168 good for her ig.... when tf did I mention blackpink? oh right I didn't lol if you felt I was attacking your fav maybe reflect on that!! this goes for any idol who can't hold a note live :)
why are you trolling poor jisoo in it. It's obvious Xiumin is better vocalist@@ketakikhobragade7168
@@ketakikhobragade7168Xiumin is one of the all rounder of EXO lol
Are you new kpopie?
@@ketakikhobragade7168who are a bp hater don't pretend to be a blink psycho
HYBE shouldn’t have let the girls perform at Coachella. Coachella itself should have reached out to 3rd Gen girl groups or even 3rd Gen boy groups to perform because all of 3rd Gen knows how to come up with a performance to engage with the audience with great stage performance! They should’ve invited MAMAMOO to come perform at Coachella or even EXO.
ateez is a 4th gen group and they nailed coachella, also skz would be great there too. it's not about generation, it's about preparation, which is something hybe itself doesn't do with any of its artists
4th gen group like SKZ, Treasure, G idle, Itzy were good as well
Exo gonna put everyone to sleep with they slow ass songs. Time and place
@@PapilLaq you clearly a hater because EXO has excellent songs tf
@@PapilLaqexo were the first kpop group coachella wanted to invite but sm declined, years ago. You’re mad cause lsf’s biggest moment was comparing an exo song instead of making noise from theirs LMAOO
Some kpop fans in this generation love the mediocrity ... isn't it about If they improve or not, why the hell idols debut without any talent in singing in the first place? supposedly they had training before debuting...they should be know how singing appropriately.
This!
I mean, they did put Kazuha without her knowing how to rap and sing properly. It tells you a lot about their company, really. 😬
They only wanted to put in the already famous members in the group sonce they're more focused on the brand image & concept rather than the talents.
Yunjin VOCALS WAS BAD BAD her voice was cracking left, right, and center sorry girl.
Her voice didn’t crack tho, if you are talking about her verse in Antifragile, then she overused the cry vocal technique lol..
@@Verowinday777her every part in smart were so unstable
@@hiitsmesahi still didn’t crack.
1.not even Yunjin her vocals were bad wrong pitch shakey and voice cracks every few seconds neither Chaewon nor Yunjin slayed even though Chaewon was noticably better honestly nobody slayed it was a complete ear-rape
Can we talk about how fuvking amazing ATEEZ were
They literally ATE!! That's the k-pop representation we need in the west 💕
Ateez> bp
@@ketakikhobragade7168why are you even comparing them? they both were amazing and gave their all in Coachella
The only thing better in Lesserafim's performance than Ateez's was the camerawork.
TRUEEE😅
Yunjin's vocals are so unstable.. like what happened to her?
I think she thought
Of other 3 can get same money without being stable then why should I be stable🥴
"In January, Eunchae, bless her heart, sounded like she was auditioning for Cats." GIRL PLEASE 😭😭
I agree with all of your opinions except that you said Aespa was better at Coachella than Blackpink. Aespa are better vocalists than Blackpink for sure. No doubt about that. But their stage presence wasn't as good as Blackpink which is very important at music festivals along with good vocals. Blackpink had a better balance of vocals and hyping up the crowd and stuff.
Aespa is better than blackpink, cry more toxic blink.
@@ketakikhobragade7168 ur the toxic one
She's right, aespa were rookies
Coachella was too big for them
AESPA is a vocal group. Their coachella performance was sonically pleasing out of all the groups, with AESPA's signature harmonies and iconic SM bridges. A lot of people think dead crowd means BAD performance which is not true. AESPA performed beautifully. But for a lot of you hyped up crowd answering "coachella are you ready?? " is more like "wow best performance" which shouldn't be the case. You can perform chill songs and have a good time like many western artists performing. Not everything have to be "shouting the rap parts", cursing, heavy band performance, beat drop songs. It's a MUSIC festival, not a HYPE festival.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq No, what I meant is that aespa's performance vocally wise was good but their facial expressions weren't the best
I know their conceot was Ai back then but they should have improved their facials
And yeah it's Coachella, hyping up the crowd is also quiet important
@@Wondergirlsgen If you look at their performance, they did well with crowd engagement. Coachella crowd is full of casual goers. There are artists just singing and having fun. Not screaming at the crowd and hyping up what most kpop stans call "stage presence". It's about MUSIC. Anyone can enjoy. What many ppl forget is that they weren't headlining or subheadlining (like LSF, ATEEZ, BP) . AESPA were SPECIAL GUESTS, performed only 6-7 songs. A lot of kpop stans don't understand this. So for a US debut, starting out, letting the world know who they are, they did AMAZING job. But everything got overlooked with toxic kpop stans comparing them. They had a small set like many growing artists. They did GREAT job for their debut in US after COVID.
But blackpink did have like the best coachella stage ever lol
I disagree!! æspa had better Vocals than blackpink in Coachella.
@@user-se3io9ks5w vocals aren’t the only important aspect of a show. But that is true
Agree!! and also 2NE1 at coachella was also legendary ❤
Aespa was better than bp ,you are just a toxic blinks
@@ketakikhobragade7168 please man don't embarrass your self.like everyone remembered the silence.bp was on top.bp does.not get hate like others get.they were.iconic.it's fact.you are just jealous.just bark kid.but fact is fact.bp set the.standard too high.they.are known as legends😏😏😏
Okkk I don’t think Yunjin did that well…I was surprised
Blackpink set the standard too high believe it or not, their stage presence, vocals, rap, confidence and charisma was top notch.(I can only expect those standards from either Babymonster or Kiss of Life, talking about ggs).It's not even le sserafim's fault hybe should train their idols and trainees well before debuting.
1. From the vocals to the band arrangement for some songs and the outfits everything was a disaster, they weren't ready and now we can't criticize 'cause it's automatically bullying 🙄.... their fans are babying them so much, if they keep like that their vocals would never get better
And yeah, the people saying Sakura sounded better.... did we saw the same performance? She wasn't even trying, she was actually irrelevant in some parts, i almost forgot she was there 🫣
Fearnots are thinking otherwise cause they were praising the hell outta her 😂😂
About band arrangement, it was so out of touch and messy, the drummer was crazy (in a bad way)
Still better than ateez
There’s a line between criticism and bullying and it’s being crossed (not necessarily with you, but in general it is)
@@vivid_blossoms how so?? give me examples.
Let's be real only Chaewon was decent. yunjin was pretty much shouting as well. Yelling on key isn't exactly singing. I've heard people say that Sakura used a back track but I can't really tell. To me, it was just boring. I would pick a bp coachella performance any day over this and that's saying something. Also, is it just me or does yunjin seem to be regressing in the vocal department? She was NOT this bad in her debut. Istg, look at her performance for stupid in love with max. She makes him sound like a vocal powerhouse it's actually embarrassing.
Anyway, I knew Kazuha and Eunchae would have 0 stage presence since for one they are very young to be thrust upon a large foreign stage like that and expected to carry it out like nothing. Secondly, most of them know they can't sing. KNetz aren't letting their glaringly obvious lack of skills slide. Moreover, I find it quite humorous that bp was being criticized to hell and back (they deserved it too) for having only enough stamina to carry through a coachella performance and not their own concert yet here we are with lsf not even being able to hold through that 💀. I'm trying my best not to be a complete jerk but this was so stupid. What is it with these big companies throwing their inexperienced groups on a foreign stage? Like at least let them have some experience under their belt before hanging them out to dry like that.
Aespa did so much better in my opinion. They were still lacking at the time due to them mostly never having performed in front of a real audience but they still weren't bad in any way. If they were to perform now, they would bring their A game for sure. I'm also surprised that no one is talking about Ateez, cuz man did they eat!
For idols opening their own agencies, I think the should only do it to manage themselves. To be very honest, I've seldom heard of idols actually having degrees to start a business venture like that. I know they don't have to di it alone at all and if they have a good enough team they're set, however, although possible, it doesn't sound so swell. Shouldn't you have some form of right educational background before all this? And this is before the futures of young kids fall in their hands.
5:01 fr XG deserves more attention cuz aint no one doing quite like them rn, they killing it
People don't embrace talent anymore, only visual. XG should be performing at Coachella, not Le Sserafim. They would kill it!.
Xg is insane omg
Yeah I agree with you XG they are beast 💪 talented girls ❤
Some gg groups lack stage presence. Aespa has good vocals but watching their performances hurt my eyes. Blackpink has good rappers but their performances also hurt my eyes. It feels like they gathered random people and put them together.
This is exactly it. You can't impose higher standards for kpop idols because they are conditioned to not be the ultimate best. If they did, then a lot of groups should have top the charts and gained a stable career decades ago.
Kpop stans should just admit that a lot of these popular groups that get opportunities like these are popular for multiple reasons. Be it their visuals, fan service, their personality or their talent. Being invited in coachella is more of like a status thing than music tbh. Its a local music festival that gather large crowds with nothing in mind but to enjoy some booze.
If you say Y2K have over stayed it welcome then girlcrush is laughing in the concer😅
Everyone, have you seen the band “The Rose” on stage ? They were so good and energetic ^^
And Ateez, it's like they literally gave their soul, they must be so happy to be there!
I just know that delulu fearnots will be praising the hell out of lsf Coachella performance videos because some of them cannot hear 😂😂 Either that, or Hybe is gonna stop them from trending, lmao
And i was right. Fearnots are praising the hell out of them under the Coachella community post
Hey, not a fearnot but I think the hate Le Sserafim is receiving is a LOT. I don’t know when we forgot that a performance is more than JUST singing- it’s also stage presence and Le Sserafim has really good stage presence. The crowd was really hyped up.
@@vivid_blossoms I'm not hating but they really need to fix their vocals. Keeping the crowd hyped is definitely not gonna help them in the long run unless their fans are gonna continue to listen to a live performance with delusion
@@baoziday5178 yes they do. and that's all we need to say, nothing more
@@vivid_blossoms yes, I know and people sending them threats are disgusting honestly. But Hybe also not taking action against it are putting the girls in a vulnerable spot. Hopefully their vocals improve and if not, then people get bored and leave them alone. And defending them when they do get genuine criticism isn't gonna help either because at some point these fans really do need to grow up and actually listen to what they sound like. Instead of focusing on what they look like
Fr it's embarrassing
Stop bp gave much and more better performance and live vocals than lsf . If you want to compare them then compare them with aespa as bp will always be off-limits for these ggs.
BLACKPINK was the Queens of Coachella
Ateez on top 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
I tend to believe Hybe stan are bunch of kids or teenagers.
Whenever they defended their faves you'll get silly arguments like "at least she's prettier than you", "at least she earns more money than you" or even "lets see you do this, sing and dance" 😂. At this rate they dont even care about singing quality anymore. They brag how Hybe idols are the best in the industry, charting everywhere, bragging about streaming. So gullible in believing popularity or number of streaming defines quality or talent.
They also defend other Hybe's ggs saying they are among the best singers in the industry. Little did they know, those ggs they mentioned have not been exposed to live singing with raw vocals without back track or AR. They brag about "live" singing from Korean tv broadcast or their official YT channel that has the word "live". They didnt know those clips have been heavily "polished" or "autotuned" for broadcasting purpose.
Please, bring back the old kpop that has the heavenly vocal quality. I miss seeing Popular + talented idols, for example-Big Bang
To be ho honest my faves are more talented than bigbang
@@ketakikhobragade7168 who are they? Spill
@@AllysaEllyEllathis is a kid forget her
A good example of popular + talented is baby monster
@@hemlataagarwal6348 from newest gen, BM i agree. As for earlier gen there were a lot-Exo, Big Bang, Shinee, SNSD
Yunjin was not good at all😫
Chaewon carried the group
aint no way in hell you said aespas coachella was better than blackpinks lol
Vocally æspa were better specifically Winter. Blackpink had better energy though.
Blackpink’s stage presence cleared but aespa sounded more stable idk
No wonder he said it, the girl groups of yg are not to his like, bp I think dislike, before would praise any group before doing it with bp, that's true, with the girls always has the (but), although that does not change the fact that aespa was the second most critical performance after LSF, almost everyone knows it, but the criticism of aespa was for lack of presence and not for bad voices, Aspect that the sm girls group has improved a lot and if they return to coachella they will do much better
I think aespa is vocally stronger, but a performance is not only about vocal techniques. BP is the stronger performer, and BP's cochella was a better performance.
@@lininrabbittotally agree to that!!! Thank God someone said this!
"oh but they improved", " they dance and sing for 30mins" so what??? They know how many songs theyll perform. Such an embarrassment for Coachella. And
No excuses can save them from this embarrassing moment.
I’m finding that the people who find it embarrassing weren’t even there…
@@vivid_blossoms Trolls will say anything to make themselves sound right.
WHY DOESNT HYBE PROMOTE FROMIS9 AND RESTART WITH GROUP AND NEW CONCEPT AND ALL AND JUST GIVE UP ON THESE GIRLS THERE IS NO HOPE
so sad that hybe dont care about fromis, these girls are so talented😭
Hybe chose ls over gfriend..that kills
@@bebepak7811 YESSS I LOVED AND STILL LOVE THEM😭😭😭 THEY WERE ICONIC AND ONE OF IF NOT THE BEST HYBE GROUP SO FAR
@@flewir not when txt exists, txt outsing g flop
@@ketakikhobragade7168 LOLL TXT OUTSING GFRIEND??? i dont think we listened to the same groups lol
ATEEZ ROCKED THEY NEED MORE RECOGNITION FOR REAL . I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING ROBED , WHY AREN'T MY BOYS MORE POPULAR ? THEY DESERVE IT .
The only good thing coming from hybe is Seventeen
Not when txt, bts and fromis 9 exist
@@ketakikhobragade7168 fromis9 is the only exeption bts and txt not really
@@TreasurblueLagoonand seventeen's not even originally from hybe. 😂 hybe is a joke
I know😂 but while pledis is still under hybe? might as well put them here since Seventeen is saving hybe from having a total emberessment.
Ateez devoured
Blackpink set the bar so fucking high.
The performance was exactly how I thought it would be. Like, identical. Shits getting so predictable in kpop now 😭🙏
This is gonna sound harsh but i really think they should undebut eunchae her vocals is unlistenable to me, she needs time to develop her voice. Sending her back to the trainee dungeon is harsh but atleast she would not be embarrassing herself even further
hybe should just train their vocals
She sounds so bad omg
felt like there was a bun in her mouth.
I agree with the Woo!Ah thing but even when nugus come back with good music that's different its always a miss and they never blow up. kpop stans always say that they stan for good music and not because of the company and that's why ILLIT blew up but when groups put out music like that where is their 100 million views on spotify? Kpop stans are hypocrites and Woo!Ah's blush proved it.
Its the way that when it came to ateez's camera man people were saying they should be fired for missing a few bits but now for le sserafim its don't be too hard on them. So its ok to make fun until its idols? Don't be foolish. Also can you please talk about ateez in one of your videos because the way they aren't being talked about is crazy.
i honestly dont understand why hybe even sent lsf to coachella like tf were they thinking? it was COACHELLA not a random music show in the neighborhood that anyone can just go up to the stage and sing without through preparations and practice. anyways ateez as usual slayed their performance. hope they get even more better opportunities to perform in the future.
Aespa and blackpink deserves apology
K-pop artists are like children compared to pop artists. Pop is on another level. 90 % of K-Pop artists are fansserves who have nothing to do with art and sing
For real. A lot of kpop music nowadays isn’t even music it’s just content. And fans will eat it right up smh
This is so true. Only ATEEZ showed us what remaining 10% of kpop artist are like. They were AMAZING on stage while staying true to their art.
Depends on what pop artists you are talking about because the new ones (and popular ones) also struggle to sing live a lot
exactly, i genuinely hate the international fans that excuse this type of lack of talent. They say "oh dont compare them to pop its kpop!" then cry about representation in the west like girl if yall want them to grow internationally they need to compete because wtf is this
Not really, tons of pop artists are meh too
Why do y’all bring blackpink into everything like what does Blackpink have to do with their performance 😂 you act like blackpink is there label or something
They didn’t make it look easy at all, in fact they made it look like ATEEZ could’ve went ahead and had a full concert at Chella
Ateez set was actually like one of their concerts, it was so fun and somehow even with the bone bending choreography and hard vocals their ending song was the most energetic than everything,men were dripping with sweat but you couldn’t see a single bit of exhaustion on their face , when their set ended it was like an earthquake just stopped 😭😭😭 lsfm on the other hand 😨 they had voice cracks by the second song
@@athisi7961 yeah it’s a shame they were over shadowed in the midst of people hating Le Serrafim
WORST KPOP GROUP EVER!!! I USE TO LOVE THEM TILL I LEARNED THEY CAN'T SING LIVE TO SAVE THEIR LIFE!!! ATEEZ DID AN AMAZING JOB!!! SO DID JACKSON WANG!! HOPEFULLY JACKSON WILL BE A HEADLINER SOON!!! SABRINA CARPENTER IS MY FAVORITE PERFORMANCE SO FAR.
They are not the worst,just vocally unstable.They can practice running on treadmill whiles singing.They are great performers though.
@@mavisamevorshie1302Who is the worst then ?
@@ayanobadass949 Don't know , just they are not worst,just needs more vocal training.
@@mavisamevorshie1302 What kind of logic is that ? If there is a group with the best vocal each gen, there has to be a worst 💀
@@ayanobadass949 What was said was they are the worst K-pop group ever.I mentioned they are not worst but just lacking vocally.Read the chat first.They are good performers with great stage presence.People can praise their fav but no need to go far with the labeling
Le sserafim really needs vocal training. HYBE if you wanna be like the big three start with vocal training. Looks can only get you so far. That’s why the big 3 had a visual, main & lead vocal. Visual there just to be pretty and keep up. Main and lead there to SANG they dnt have to be the best looking (bc they can “fix” that) but they need to have a VOICE!! They carry the group vocal wise until the others through vocal training catch up and the harmonies be harmonizing! But this should all be done during training!!!! Not when they have debuted!!
HYBE GET IT TOGETHER!! WHAT DOES YALL TRAINING CONSIST OF BC IT LOOKS LIKE ITS NOT WORKING!!
Hybe prioritizes visual, aesthetic and fashion....as long as they've got endorse by major fashion labels and top producer on their hand, vocals are out of the window...sad but truth
Yeah for that Coachella I prefer watching Black pink and Aespa lipstick(Which isn't possible) than hearing Lesserafim's worst vocalist competition performance
Aespa didn't lip sync on Coachella. They got hate for lack of stage presence
Ok thanks
@@songkang3xsrvxNo group did either. Coachella doesn't allow lipsync
@@babymonster5thgenerationleader Coachella authority told you?
@@songkang3xsrvx Also , kindly mention which other groups lipsync at Coachella? None did
literally not even done with the le sserfim section and im on the ground laughing 😭
Out of topic ateez slayed and pinkchella was and always be iconic. The people defending lesserafim are the ones who were the questioning blackpink (such a pity)..
My big sister said that they sound distorted- 😭💀
I really hoped Le Sserafim would hold up the reputation built by Blackpink for Kpop, but...
Bp is not even known outside of stan twt and kpop bubble...what reputation do they have?
@@ketakikhobragade7168 By reputation, I meant the outstanding, flawless performances with incredible live vocals. That's what Kpop is famous for. Le sserafim did not lack in energy and effort, but it is the good vocals that we want, since it is their jobs as singers
wtf actually happened to yunjin voice??? 😭 i used to love her vocals but it’s like I can’t even stand it from recent comeback.
My friend whose not into kpop sent me their video to me 😭😭 I've got second hand embarssment fr, all their great performance before coachella are invalid, they're just a dance group now
I love your commentary😭
This was so entertaining to watch
Blackpink trending rap Jennie roae vocal lisa dance stage presence jisoo stamina vocal.
Le sseferiam trending to crack vocal opposite music video with good editing
People keep saying "Fearnots are delusional" "Their fans keep defending them and making excuses"
I've literally seen MULTIPLE Fearnots criticizing their vocals and this performance.
1. Even though I rlly like some of their songs, Lesserafim is embarrassing the whole kpop internationally and those few hybe artist who can sing live (seventeen, boynextdoor, Jk) What is Source music and Hybe thinking? Instead of public humiliating them, give them some good vocal coachs.
I wish we could give criticism without making unnecessary lame jokes .. These poor girls are being dragged through hell just bcs everyone's joining the hate train for jokes and shit
saying all this but their the ones putting themselves out there and shining, earning money and gaining fans whilst you're just sat at home coming up with commentary to hate on idols in k-pop and hiding behind a screen because you know you wouldn't be so confident to be saying these things if your face was known to everyone
aespas coachella performance over blackpinks????
Yes aespa was better my miles
Im sorry but im embarrassed by the fact that now the pop fans will think that we listen to idols who are shaky and cant sing 😭😭😭😭
I blame the kpop industry for prioritizing dancing skills and physical appearance over singing training and signing potential. They forget that kpop is first and firemost about the music.
Even TXT who also from HYBE can sing live better than LS tho and they didn't die (I've gone to TXT concert 2 times). I think now it's not just about vocal coach in HYBE but the fact that these girl can't sing at all
I watched the whole performance & the very 1st song they performed, they were already out of pitch, second, they were already gasping for air & its just gets progressively worse. Also, the songs some of you said that was in their "range" was performed badly. Y'all need to accept the fact that they're just flat out bad vocalist. Them being gym lovers didn't even give them the endurance they need for a long performance, how tf did they even managed to get such loyal fans who turn a blind eye when it comes to their talents?
Gurl didn't roast them she burned them up 😭😭
Like Hybe stans don't have bare minimum shame to defend Le sserafim lol
Some dumb are saying Blackpink lyp synched in coachella while they performed with live band 😑
At this point Hybe only can do is controversy, pyola streaming nothing else...Hybe really ruining kpop reputation at this point lol 😒
I feel really bad for BTS and Seventeen....😢
I guess that's why there is a BIG 3 in Kpop
I honestly don’t think there is such thing as a non-controversial entertainment company in kpop. Just because they don’t dangle the evidence in your face doesn’t mean it’s not there
@@handlegt but hybe is the most media played company ever
You know it’s going downhill when you realize that Gfriend, a well-known and well-respected plus multitalented kpop girl group, was lowkey and basically replaced by their effing company just to debut these girlies who do not have any stamina nor good vocals at all (Gfriend can do effing better but SouMu wasted ‘em so much!)
why u need to bring other group or mention other group name to shame them just stay the facts why insulting other groups
Girl..omg
Cause bp is untalented, and aespa is better
@@ketakikhobragade7168 can smell something burning man
the amount of crowd bp hd in theri coachella was more than the amount of fans asepa have so go on bark
@@ketakikhobragade7168 aespa has no stage presence which is the most important thing in music festival to control a crowd of million peoples
@@mayeshaaa_that ketaki what's so ever are toxic My (fandom aespa)....they mock and drag bp in every comment...just a toxic fans drag every kpop idol in every section comments
Why so much hate into lesserafim?Chaewon and Yunjin gave their best.Sakura and Eunchae also did well.Their vocals may not be flawless.But not bad as a performance based group.As for Kazhua I think she can improve.
THANK YOU FOR SO OBSESSED WITH THEM🎉🎉🎉 ❤ keep check them out , man
And wait till them hybe stans pull up a “Our groups is better cuz they can end all of your faves with their fame ” Cuz they know their groups vocals suck 😂 like SURE GIRL! - the charts are YOURS ma’am🥱, and the talents OURS😍. Cuz lets you see you at the concert vibing to charts. 😍😍😘
You stan Lucas, stop speaking on talent
@@ketakikhobragade7168whos that
@@ketakikhobragade7168 whos that
Well live singing does not fill their stomach or give them money to live .its charts and popularity.
@@heenadhurwe_ce325its not chart & popularity its THE FANS, and also they are artist/ singers. A SINGER should be good at singing, as thats their job. Because i could say the same thing for a surgeon “ performing surgey does not fill their stomach its the money”, its true but if you have no patients then theres no money made
Just because they are from HYBE.. puhlease kpop fans should stop making excuses for nepo idols! Meanwhile ATEEZ did a great job!
Griend is better than le sserafim......bring be back Gfriend
Some ppl saying that the choreo was hard and that’s why they couldn’t sing well is just dumb. Like so many K-pop groups can consistently sing and dance, even new K-pop groups that just debuted. Like no one is perfect ppl can make mistakes here and there but for it so be almost all the members and for the whole performance is just insane. Like I feel like illit or baby monster, that just debuted can sing and dance live better and they are younger and just debuted. Hopefully lesserafim practice a lot on there vocals and learn to stabilize there voice while dancing.
I am totally with you on the YTK thing. I don't mind nostalgia, but I feel like there is more to that time period than is currently being mined right now. And if nostalgia means repetitive "safe" music then count me out
actually Coachella is the only ones to blame!!! they should pick their artists better!!!!
They should ask for jisoo
i went there saw ateez and stuff and was like hmm lets give them a chance for them and BRO i felt like my music teacher had to see this shit and my sister who was their fan was like "i dont know them anymore lol , at this point babymonster should have been there" i was laughing my ass off god thanks for the groups that saved my money 😢😭
2. I hope the rest of IVE get promotions too like Wony get.
4. Money
5. Jay Park and Psy are real examples why idols should not be CEOs but on the other hand JYP was slaying as a CEO.
The hard chorea is A excuse. They weren't doing the full fledged choreography and they stopped while singing their lines. If they did the whole choreo trust me we would se street woman 4.