Just discovered you today Joe. First of all, GREAT JOB on what I have seen so far. I went into Piney Point in 1982, after 4 years in the US Navy. Back then, it was just the 4-month program (or thereabouts) and then they get you your first ship, and then that was it. My first 2 ships were the Coastal Kansas (a very, very old ship) and then the Sealand Consumer. Then I hit pay-dirt. I took an LNG class at Piney Point and for the next 5 years, sailing on LNG ships. It was great because I was on a permanent rotation, and no longer had to go to the union hall in Jacksonville to find a new job each time. That's it for now and look forward to seeing the rest of your videos.
Nice job, brother. I enjoy your videos from time to time. Class 736 June 2010. Sailing 2nd Mate Unlimited now. SIU helped me upgrade fast. Yes, it helps, for all you nonschool believers. STOS’ are far more educated and prepared for the industry. Don’t get me wrong, the C card route is just fine as well. We all have different stuff going on in our lives. Thanks again, brother. Smooth seas and following winds.
I have sent all your videos to my nephew. He's had a little bit of a rough going He's very motivated now after he's seen all of this. He's going to get his passport and he's getting his medical
Ima about to head to siu in November. Didint know I wanted to do this but this has also motivated me. I was also in a bad spot I’m glad your nephew feels motivated. I think this will be well worth it. The adventure the work the people you will meet I think it’ll be great iv talked to a lot of guys in the navy and they wish they would of went into the merchant marine. And from what I hear it’s not the worst of things to do. I get it’s not all green but I think I reather do this then pipe laying or construction for the rest of my life. Atleast there’s an opportunity to be away from all the chaos going on here. Be on the ocean and just work and stack bread.
For anyone reading this... Just go sail as an OS, Wiper or Messman. Get your sea time and upgrade your credentials. Going to the SIU school sounds like such a waste of time IMO. In the year it takes to complete the school you could already be sailing AB or Oiler.
Hey bud i got my OS, license studying in the Central American maritime training center but i always wanted to work on tankers on that part of the world any advice thanks on advance 🙏
@darrelcollins4275 You can apply at Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Crowley Tankers or OSG. Google research who's in charge of manning at these companies and write or call explaining your desire to climb the ladder. It'll always be a no till you ask right?
This is an amazing channel. After five years working at sea as a cruise ship photographer, I am transitioning career and decided to go for the ordinary seaman position because I developed a love for the ships and wanted to be closer to the marine operations department. These are really helpful information to me for the unlicensed apprentice, thank you. I am looking forward to getting accepted onboard vessels again and starting anew. Love your videos and best of luck on your voyages :)
I am a Bangladeshi citizen. The feeling that I will make a career in the marine sector worked from my childhood. But it was not possible due to various reasons. I am so attracted to this sector that even at this age I dream of becoming a merchant mariner. My current age is 29 years and I am a Computer Science and Engineering graduate. However I am keen to pursue a career in the merchant marine sector if I have the opportunity. I enquired in various institutions in Bangladesh if at least I can get admission in 'deck rating course' to fulfill my desire, but in Bangladesh it isn't possible as I am over 25. Is there any opportunity to build a career in this sector with education from any foreign institution at this age? I have googled a lot but can't get much information regarding my query. If there is any opportunity, I want to try it in around 2028 if almighty Allah wants. And by 2028 I will be around 33 years old, I want these 3-4 years because at this moment I don't have the capability to bear expenses and academic fees of foreign institutions. But if I get the opportunity of scholarship or waiver or study loan, I am ready right away. I look forward to your advice. Please
Well done.I went to sea from 1974 to 2015.Didn't join the SIU until 1999.At this point , I wasn't really marketable but starting out and taking the SIU's curriculum is a good way to go.You have schooling, security, and broad range of different types of vessels to work on.Benefits and affiliation are very important.
After the Marine's I got a UNION Job as a Welder two main Com. I work for was A. MOE Ship and Engine Repair and Philly Ship Repair out of PHILLA and love it ....BUT i got in rolled into the Fire Fighter Program and spent the next 30 Years of You Life as a Fireman ...LOVING every min... of it ....If You ''''LOVE WHAT YOU DO YOU WILL NEVER WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE '''''.... Cruise ON !!!!
Thanks for uploading these informative videos. I'm 20 and i've been kind of drifting around unsure of what to do with my career, but maritime work has caught my attention like a moth to a flame once i started looking into what the work and benefits are like.
The unlicensed program is great for when you're young and don't have a lot of commitments tying you down. The lifestyle is great. Work a few months. Take a few months off. Work again.
@@JoeFranta What would you consider a good option for a 40 year old looking to start a new career ? Best options without the time in school ? I have a strong work history and worked at a diesel powered plant for 2 years in my 20s. I've been binge watching your videos, sent you a msg on IG . Thanks for your time
@@JoeFrantaI’m 19, I got my stcw basic training, twic, mmc! All that paperwork ready! The question is do you recommend me joining SIU apprentice program or join other company where I start as a OS deckhand? I’d like to highlight that I’m a future I want to be in the engine department! But I’m not sure and I already got an offer from SIU! Thanks a lot brother!
Good stuff Joe! Class 600 here. It was a great experience for me and your videos really bring me back. Keep up the good work....liked 👍 and subscribed 🤙
@@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 3rd A/E, and it depends on who you get hired with. since I got hired by MSC, yes. Some other companies I've heard would have you sail as a QMED briefly before allowing you sail as a licensed officer on their ships.
Good job. it doesnt seam to be much different than the Railroad. school to get training and certificate/license. get to location and start as a newbee. pay is at 80% and up 10% a yr (if you last that long). then everyone makes the same based on the Job no mater if your there 5 yrs or 50 yrs. its all about sonority with RR. I have my TWIC card now, getting my physical in couple of days. then off to VA for 1 week training ( for MMC/BST) each day is a different certificate/licenses. then they fly me to Honolulu to work on Pride of America. They do reimburse you after you get to your ship for all expenses.
You can now go with this guy on the buddy program..... I have a lot of old salt dog friends. They love it and I appreciate their labor on shipping to move goods around the world
Another question I have is (totally understand if you don't know. ) what the acceptance rate for the SIU is. I'm 23, pretty fit but Diabetic (no insulin), and I didn't have the best grades in school purely due to my own arrogance and laziness. I'm trying to start a new chapter in my life and after learning about the Merchant Mariner trade it just clicked that this is what I want to do. I've always been drawn the ocean and I miss all the traveling I did when my father was in the Marines. I realize that if I want to go out and see more of the world that im going to need to do it myself now (obviously). I've been a daily weed smoker for about 2 years now and I just quit yesterday. I've always known weed wasn't the best thing for me in particular but I never had something worth giving it up for. My desire to do this and see it through is the push I need to let go of that addiction. I guess my brain is just freaking out at the thought of this awesome opportunity slipping through my fingers. I know that regardless of what happens I'll be better off for the attempt. I just hope I don't do all of this just to get denied 100 times. I've already decided that I'm going to apply over and over and over. It's just terrifying thinking it won't pan out. Anyway thank you very much for your videos. You and the other MMs that make videos really help keep this goal at the forefront of my mind. Maybe one day I'll be serving on a ship with you, who knows.
When I first applied to the program I thought the same thing, super nervous I wouldnt get accepted. Please don't worry. If you're passionate about sailing and have a strong desire to, you will. Stopping smoking is a good thing. At least while your working ;) The hardest part of becoming a sailor is getting ALL the paper work and physicals, looking forward to sailing with you.
Stopping drug use is a good thing period. I have seen drug use destroy many a dream, and in my industry where security clearances and a having a long history of making good choices are a requirement, past drug use is hard to overcome but not impossible.
Really thinking about getting into this career as someone who is lost at 20, however, unfortunately, my country only offers ''studies'' that take years and are way wider for no reason I prefer to work my way up, so done with schooling
@@neverhungryagain2187 yeah, I took a flight from smf to ord, then ord to bwi. Not gone cap I don’t like this shit so far 😂😂😂😂 but I packed my credentials, and whatever the checklist said to bring
Joe, I've seen maybe 10 of you're videos now guess its time to sub.I'd like to see more of the food onboard & you're actual job,plus how's the pay?I was a Marine in the late 70s, I went to the Mediterranean twice,76&79.
I already got MMC entry level and medical certificate but believe need endorsement in order for me to work on big ships 🚢 Do I have to contact the Maritime center for an endorsement ? is there any difference between STCW95 , STCW2010 ? I want to join SIU 😎 Thank u for all the infos Wish me luck 🙏
Commenting this before watching the video so apologies if you address this. I'd absolutely love a kind of crash course on what we'd be learning. I'd love to be able to self educate myself on as many things as possible so I'm ahead of the curve. Basically as much info as you can give about SIU for someone wanting to apply.
@@JoeFranta Awesome, thank you. I've already started trying to memorize the navigational lights for ships. And I'm working on learning as much general information as I can so I can be a little more prepared than I otherwise would be.
Worst experience of my life. I dropped out 2 months into it. And found my own self a job offshore. The entire curriculum was terrible. Physical training was the worst. They wanted us to do 20 army push-ups, 20 pull-ups, and 20 sit-ups. I said, fuck this. I'm so out. And I got myself a job on my own 2 months later. True story.
I'm intrigued by all of this, and like the idea of sailing around the world visiting new places and getting paid for. Going through SIU though, if you're not on scholarship, you're only getting paid through Phase II and Phase III, when aboard a ship. I would assume during classwork time, the food is free? Should you have a good set of savings before coming here?
Yeah food and lodging is free during the program. But having savings or having very few bills is a good idea. I ended my lease, sold my car and most my belongings before starting so I did't have much overhead while in the program.
Joe, love the videos. Tons of info. Just a quick question regarding the phases--most precisely--the time between. Sounds like PH1 to PH2 is a continuous flow from Piney Point to the first underway period. How long (roughly) is the time home between PH2 & PH3, between PH3 & PH4, and PH4 & PH5? Thanks
I'm brand new to this industry and I have no prior experience but I'm very attracted to the water just like you and I am really want to make a career out of this. Who do I talk to?
Hey joe great vid i just came out of piney point (880) they just changed the program 2nd phase is now 60 days department specific for deck and engine steward is 120 and no phase 3 untill you upgrade to cheif cook
I was considering this program. The apprenticeship program. Does it seem logical to not work for 4 months and then get paid peanuts for another few months!? I make more on shore right now doing other things. I always have my TWIC and paid for my physical and am considering just applying for MMC once done that and working on a cruise ship to even see if I like it. The pay would be more than their first tour out with the apprenticeship & not as long. What do you think? Worth it or no?
@@birrandaking5954 well just getting the mmc doesnt get you on a ship you have to have basic lifboat watersurvival firstaid and firefighting endorsements. Going on a cruise ship may be better for you depending on what you actually want to do (deck engine gally) or service related. The ncl pride of america (based in hawaii sends their crew to piney point to get basic training so i would look there. they are not part of the union so its really only the service related people that get trained there deck hands and engine are siu. Also cruise ships are pretty different from other comercial vessels
Great video Thanks for all the helpful info!!! any advice on what to bring when you start classes clothes necessary items ? and can you drive your own car to the school ?
Im about to start class next month (Class 911), when you talk to the school they give you a very detailed list of everything required/allowed. Unless you have someone to drive your car back from the school probly not, you're not allowed to leave campus while there.
MR.GUY! So good to hear from you. glad you're still watching after the RV wash video Haha. Keep an eye out for the rest of the videos, I think you'll enjoy them. Also thank you for the Phase 2 update.
hi Joe, my name is shawn I really like your videos and it's inspiring me to become a merchant, mariner myself however, there are some questions that I have first do I have to take an exam in order to get my merchant mariner credential and if I do, where can I find the materials to pass the test so I can get onto the SIU?
So u have a passport, a twic an mmc snd stcw done. Then you get tour dental stuff aligned. Then, You apply to SIU. My mmc is from a cruise ship. Will i need an updated physical? More shots /vaccines? Or can i just apply. Also, how physical is this apprenticeship. Do i need to be in great shape? Im 45 this month. Thanks
I'd reach out to SIU they will help you with final steps regarding physical/vaccine requirements. There were plenty of people not in great shape who did just fine when i was there.
What happened with you? I'm just curious because I'm actually going through this process right now. I am trying to come in as a C Book so I went and signed up at the union hall and had to pay $515 to join and do a little test. They are now sending me to do a physical and drug test and want shot records but said you can get them done through the contracted medical doctor if you don't have them. I'm not sure how long it will take to get a ship because they said you can be waiting awhile because the lack of positions available due to apprenticeship people taking priority over C Books. There are a lot of variables so I'm trying to be patient and see what happens. I am going to give it a few weeks and go from there. I'll check back in later with an update.
@@Foodforestculture no i actually had a problem with my physical because of medical history that im trying to clear up now. I signed up at the union but i cant get work until i straighten out my medical status. I think i might be ready in a couple months and then go back. I will try to update you if i get work as c book. I have just been working normal jobs until i am eligible.
I have friends that have worked on private yachts in a number of different positions and all have reported getting seasick on the job even in the calmer waters of the Med as opposed to the much more turbulent waters of the Pacific and Atlantic. Since the ships you work on are so much bigger than yachts do you get seasick often? Are you allowed to bring medication on board to fight seasickness or does the company you work for supply you with medication?
I have worked union for almost 40 yrs, and I am always amazed at the massive, expensive smear campaigns against us. If the company has a problem with everyone working off a set contract book, then that is a company to watch out for. So much false information out there.
Hi Joe, can I skip somes phases in the program or get the B book if I already sailed for 1 year?? As a deck cadet in Mexico, I am US citizen and I have all my documents ready (MMC, twic, passport, medical certificate) i just need to do the courses
If i decide to graduate as an AB but later down the road i want to sail in fhe engine department does SIU allow you to switch over and pay for your training for engine department?
I'm about to be phase 5 and to be honest with you I don't feel ready yet to be an AB. The only thing I am great at is steering. Mooring is especially confusing to me, and I feel like I don't "get" it. Do you have any recommendations for what to do, or do you think that I am way overthinking this? Because that's what everyone else is telling me.
To be honest every ship has slightly different mooring ops. Yea, you have inshore, offshore springs etc but they way you tie up is always a little different ship to ship. The fact that you can steer is huge. ABs get fired from ships for not knowing how to steer. Not to mention that you're worried about your performance is telling enough that you have the right attitude. You're gonna be fine brother.
I’ve known guys that had been sailing for years and they weren’t ready to be AB’s and they could of cared less.Confidence comes with time and experience.It’s overconfidence and apathy that are truly dangerous.
It can vary based on the size of the ship and job. Lowest rank deckhand makes anywhere from 30-37k a year assuming working 6 months at sea. Lowest ranked deck officer from 89-130k a year working 6 months. Captain or chief engineer start at least 180k and can go well above that. All of this is big ships, smaller vessels pay less
I did a little googling about pay, the claim was an able bodied seaman earns around $42,000.00 a year….is this accurate or over or under in the real world (for an American)?
I was thinking the same, i work in a 9-5 job factory. I only make about 48k a year. I was thinking abt this kind of job but if its only 42k and risking my life not worthy i think
@@fastdeliveryl708 that’s entry level pay, it goes up from there. If you’re single it would be great. Your at sea with no where to spend your money, so if you keep yourself employed and at sea you could have a lot of cash to put down on a house.
Yeah totally. But because I've taken the unlicensed route I need to acquire 1080 sea days before I can sit for my classes. 1 more voyage and I should have my time.
@@JoeFranta ah right, will give you a follow on insta mate, I am nearly finished my officer cadetship, in my last year of just sea time to complete, all academics are done and passed apart from final MCA written and orals.
I have a fear of heights would that be a problem for going deck? I have my passport already and my twic is on the way in the mail. Getting ready to do the physical and drug test for the mmc. If it os would galley probably be a better option for me?
During Phase 1 there was no pay. Phase 2 is a reduced rate. The finances and expenses are something that definitely needs a plan before starting this path.
@@JoeFranta I just got off the phone with SIU not long ago, they said I can be in the Union without attending the school. So I’ll probably just get in as a C Book and work my way up
Hey joe I wanted to reach out , im 28 years old Is there an age limit to get into this ? I’ve been driving semi trucks (ClassA ) for Budweiser since I graduated college in 2019 and I’ve been itching to get into the maritime industry
Love your videos. I'm looking into a second career. I'm getting ready to retire from the federal government. I'm in my 50's...Am I too old? Would a guy who is 57 be able to work as an OS?
If you pass the physical, you can work. However working on deck can be a little hard at times. BUT standing watch is easy and the old timers love it. If you're worried about it, maybe consider the stewart dept
This seems cool. Looking for ideas after my 8 years in the USMC. Any formers out there that can shine a light on this career path? Ive never been on a MEU. Most I've ever been on were combat boats 🥹
Just discovered you today Joe. First of all, GREAT JOB on what I have seen so far. I went into Piney Point in 1982, after 4 years in the US Navy. Back then, it was just the 4-month program (or thereabouts) and then they get you your first ship, and then that was it. My first 2 ships were the Coastal Kansas (a very, very old ship) and then the Sealand Consumer. Then I hit pay-dirt. I took an LNG class at Piney Point and for the next 5 years, sailing on LNG ships. It was great because I was on a permanent rotation, and no longer had to go to the union hall in Jacksonville to find a new job each time. That's it for now and look forward to seeing the rest of your videos.
I have not worked a set rotation yet. I don't know, part of me likes jumping around trying new ships. The union hall games are not my favorite either
Having tried a number of ship types so far, what do you prefer and why?
Nice job, brother. I enjoy your videos from time to time. Class 736 June 2010. Sailing 2nd Mate Unlimited now. SIU helped me upgrade fast. Yes, it helps, for all you nonschool believers. STOS’ are far more educated and prepared for the industry. Don’t get me wrong, the C card route is just fine as well. We all have different stuff going on in our lives. Thanks again, brother. Smooth seas and following winds.
Exactly. Gotta choose the route that best fits your circumstances.
I have sent all your videos to my nephew.
He's had a little bit of a rough going He's very motivated now after he's seen all of this.
He's going to get his passport and he's getting his medical
Ima about to head to siu in November. Didint know I wanted to do this but this has also motivated me. I was also in a bad spot I’m glad your nephew feels motivated. I think this will be well worth it. The adventure the work the people you will meet I think it’ll be great iv talked to a lot of guys in the navy and they wish they would of went into the merchant marine. And from what I hear it’s not the worst of things to do. I get it’s not all green but I think I reather do this then pipe laying or construction for the rest of my life. Atleast there’s an opportunity to be away from all the chaos going on here. Be on the ocean and just work and stack bread.
For anyone reading this... Just go sail as an OS, Wiper or Messman. Get your sea time and upgrade your credentials. Going to the SIU school sounds like such a waste of time IMO. In the year it takes to complete the school you could already be sailing AB or Oiler.
Yes… but how youget into this jobs? Where do they post them or apply?
So you don’t have to go to school.
But you can't just do that. You have to get basic training done. That's $1,200 in itself
Hey bud i got my OS, license studying in the Central American maritime training center but i always wanted to work on tankers on that part of the world any advice thanks on advance 🙏
@darrelcollins4275 You can apply at Chevron, Conoco Phillips, Crowley Tankers or OSG. Google research who's in charge of manning at these companies and write or call explaining your desire to climb the ladder. It'll always be a no till you ask right?
This is an amazing channel. After five years working at sea as a cruise ship photographer, I am transitioning career and decided to go for the ordinary seaman position because I developed a love for the ships and wanted to be closer to the marine operations department. These are really helpful information to me for the unlicensed apprentice, thank you. I am looking forward to getting accepted onboard vessels again and starting anew. Love your videos and best of luck on your voyages :)
I am a Bangladeshi citizen. The feeling that I will make a career in the marine sector worked from my childhood. But it was not possible due to various reasons. I am so attracted to this sector that even at this age I dream of becoming a merchant mariner. My current age is 29 years and I am a Computer Science and Engineering graduate. However I am keen to pursue a career in the merchant marine sector if I have the opportunity. I enquired in various institutions in Bangladesh if at least I can get admission in 'deck rating course' to fulfill my desire, but in Bangladesh it isn't possible as I am over 25. Is there any opportunity to build a career in this sector with education from any foreign institution at this age? I have googled a lot but can't get much information regarding my query. If there is any opportunity, I want to try it in around 2028 if almighty Allah wants. And by 2028 I will be around 33 years old, I want these 3-4 years because at this moment I don't have the capability to bear expenses and academic fees of foreign institutions. But if I get the opportunity of scholarship or waiver or study loan, I am ready right away. I look forward to your advice. Please
Well done.I went to sea from 1974 to 2015.Didn't join the SIU until 1999.At this point , I wasn't really marketable but starting out and taking the SIU's curriculum is a good way to go.You have schooling, security, and broad range of different types of vessels to work on.Benefits and affiliation are very important.
After the Marine's I got a UNION Job as a Welder two main
Com. I work for was A. MOE Ship and Engine Repair and
Philly Ship Repair out of PHILLA and love it ....BUT i got in
rolled into the Fire Fighter Program and spent the next
30 Years of You Life as a Fireman ...LOVING every min...
of it ....If You ''''LOVE WHAT YOU DO YOU WILL NEVER WORK
A DAY IN YOUR LIFE '''''.... Cruise ON !!!!
Thanks for uploading these informative videos. I'm 20 and i've been kind of drifting around unsure of what to do with my career, but maritime work has caught my attention like a moth to a flame once i started looking into what the work and benefits are like.
The unlicensed program is great for when you're young and don't have a lot of commitments tying you down. The lifestyle is great. Work a few months. Take a few months off. Work again.
@@JoeFranta What would you consider a good option for a 40 year old looking to start a new career ? Best options without the time in school ? I have a strong work history and worked at a diesel powered plant for 2 years in my 20s. I've been binge watching your videos, sent you a msg on IG . Thanks for your time
@@JoeFrantaI’m 19, I got my stcw basic training, twic, mmc! All that paperwork ready! The question is do you recommend me joining SIU apprentice program or join other company where I start as a OS deckhand?
I’d like to highlight that I’m a future I want to be in the engine department! But I’m not sure and I already got an offer from SIU!
Thanks a lot brother!
I wish I knew about Piney Point when I got out of the Army back in 07. This is a really good series and I hope it reaches more people.
What an interesting career, to which you seem well suited, with your nomadic spirit. I really enjoy your videos, keep them com'in. 🇨🇦
Good stuff Joe! Class 600 here. It was a great experience for me and your videos really bring me back. Keep up the good work....liked 👍 and subscribed 🤙
Cheers class 600, glad you're enjoying them
Fascinating to see from the Unlicensed perspective. Graduate of California Maritime Academy here ('05).
@@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 3rd A/E, and it depends on who you get hired with. since I got hired by MSC, yes. Some other companies I've heard would have you sail as a QMED briefly before allowing you sail as a licensed officer on their ships.
I graduated from Piney Point in 1980. I ended up going with Mobil Oil as an Ordinary.
If I was a young man I would follow in your foot steps.
Good job. it doesnt seam to be much different than the Railroad. school to get training and certificate/license. get to location and start as a newbee. pay is at 80% and up 10% a yr (if you last that long). then everyone makes the same based on the Job no mater if your there 5 yrs or 50 yrs. its all about sonority with RR.
I have my TWIC card now, getting my physical in couple of days. then off to VA for 1 week training ( for MMC/BST) each day is a different certificate/licenses. then they fly me to Honolulu to work on Pride of America.
They do reimburse you after you get to your ship for all expenses.
Outstanding video, subscribed! US Navy 95 - 05 "I loved being on ships".
You can now go with this guy on the buddy program.....
I have a lot of old salt dog friends.
They love it and I appreciate their labor on shipping to move goods around the world
@@DCJNewsMedia Interesting, I didn’t know that. Thanks for the information. 👍
Another question I have is (totally understand if you don't know. ) what the acceptance rate for the SIU is.
I'm 23, pretty fit but Diabetic (no insulin), and I didn't have the best grades in school purely due to my own arrogance and laziness. I'm trying to start a new chapter in my life and after learning about the Merchant Mariner trade it just clicked that this is what I want to do. I've always been drawn the ocean and I miss all the traveling I did when my father was in the Marines. I realize that if I want to go out and see more of the world that im going to need to do it myself now (obviously).
I've been a daily weed smoker for about 2 years now and I just quit yesterday. I've always known weed wasn't the best thing for me in particular but I never had something worth giving it up for. My desire to do this and see it through is the push I need to let go of that addiction.
I guess my brain is just freaking out at the thought of this awesome opportunity slipping through my fingers. I know that regardless of what happens I'll be better off for the attempt. I just hope I don't do all of this just to get denied 100 times. I've already decided that I'm going to apply over and over and over. It's just terrifying thinking it won't pan out.
Anyway thank you very much for your videos. You and the other MMs that make videos really help keep this goal at the forefront of my mind. Maybe one day I'll be serving on a ship with you, who knows.
When I first applied to the program I thought the same thing, super nervous I wouldnt get accepted. Please don't worry. If you're passionate about sailing and have a strong desire to, you will. Stopping smoking is a good thing. At least while your working ;) The hardest part of becoming a sailor is getting ALL the paper work and physicals, looking forward to sailing with you.
Stopping drug use is a good thing period. I have seen drug use destroy many a dream, and in my industry where security clearances and a having a long history of making good choices are a requirement, past drug use is hard to overcome but not impossible.
@@JoeFrantadid you already know how to swim before hand
Just watched your 77 days on a cargo ship. Subscriber now
Impressive training regiment! I had no idea!
Really thinking about getting into this career as someone who is lost at 20, however, unfortunately, my country only offers ''studies'' that take years and are way wider for no reason
I prefer to work my way up, so done with schooling
Really interesting content def gonna check out more video from you. Now when I look at ships I’ll better understand
Fascinating like all of your vids Joe.
Hi , I am from INDIA 🇮🇳i’ve (INDIAN PASSPORT)….Can i become a Merchant Mariner in USA ? By completing my Marine Studies in USA ?
Thanks mutch!
Music detracts from what you're presentation.
I was totally thinking about doing this program until I found out you have to get the jab
I don’t think you have to
@@neverhungryagain2187 yo, I’m finna start phase 1 tomorrow brody. Wish me luck pimp
@@brandobee2264 damn bro 💯 let me know what you packed.
Proud of you
@@brandobee2264 aye bruh how do you get to piney point? Plane?
@@neverhungryagain2187 yeah, I took a flight from smf to ord, then ord to bwi. Not gone cap I don’t like this shit so far 😂😂😂😂 but I packed my credentials, and whatever the checklist said to bring
When I was Master with Sealand back in the 1990's Piney Point sent the first two SIU apprentices to my vessel.
keep posting more video joe i like the content of your videos..
Joe, I've seen maybe 10 of you're videos now guess its time to sub.I'd like to see more of the food onboard & you're actual job,plus how's the pay?I was a Marine in the late 70s, I went to the Mediterranean twice,76&79.
Thanks, very informative, I would however suggest it would have been even better without the background music, just not needed and distracting.
I already got MMC entry level and medical certificate but believe need endorsement in order for me to work on big ships 🚢
Do I have to contact the Maritime center for an endorsement ?
is there any difference between STCW95 , STCW2010 ?
I want to join SIU 😎
Thank u for all the infos
Wish me luck 🙏
SHIPS WORK IS CHIPPING SHIPS RUST, PAINTING, BRIDGE DUTIES AND ROPE WORKS
Commenting this before watching the video so apologies if you address this. I'd absolutely love a kind of crash course on what we'd be learning. I'd love to be able to self educate myself on as many things as possible so I'm ahead of the curve. Basically as much info as you can give about SIU for someone wanting to apply.
I'll be releasing videos for each phase of the program. The videos should address the curriculum.
@@JoeFranta Awesome, thank you. I've already started trying to memorize the navigational lights for ships. And I'm working on learning as much general information as I can so I can be a little more prepared than I otherwise would be.
@@JoeFrantadid you already know how to swim before
Started at piney in class 762 now sailing 3rd engineer.
Were you good at math before signing up? I’m thinking about going engine room but I haven’t done difficult math or science in years.
Tnxs for the movie. God bless you...
Worst experience of my life. I dropped out 2 months into it. And found my own self a job offshore. The entire curriculum was terrible. Physical training was the worst. They wanted us to do 20 army push-ups, 20 pull-ups, and 20 sit-ups. I said, fuck this. I'm so out. And I got myself a job on my own 2 months later. True story.
Where did you get a job
20 push ups ain’t hard tho 🤔
I'm intrigued by all of this, and like the idea of sailing around the world visiting new places and getting paid for.
Going through SIU though, if you're not on scholarship, you're only getting paid through Phase II and Phase III, when aboard a ship.
I would assume during classwork time, the food is free?
Should you have a good set of savings before coming here?
Yeah food and lodging is free during the program. But having savings or having very few bills is a good idea. I ended my lease, sold my car and most my belongings before starting so I did't have much overhead while in the program.
Joe, love the videos. Tons of info. Just a quick question regarding the phases--most precisely--the time between. Sounds like PH1 to PH2 is a continuous flow from Piney Point to the first underway period. How long (roughly) is the time home between PH2 & PH3, between PH3 & PH4, and PH4 & PH5? Thanks
Thank you for this video
I'm brand new to this industry and I have no prior experience but I'm very attracted to the water just like you and I am really want to make a career out of this. Who do I talk to?
Should i get my passport, mmc, and twic before joining the program ?
Intriguing content sir, thank you for sharing:)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video @Joe Franta. Ship
Hey joe great vid i just came out of piney point (880) they just changed the program 2nd phase is now 60 days department specific for deck and engine steward is 120 and no phase 3 untill you upgrade to cheif cook
I was considering this program. The apprenticeship program. Does it seem logical to not work for 4 months and then get paid peanuts for another few months!? I make more on shore right now doing other things. I always have my TWIC and paid for my physical and am considering just applying for MMC once done that and working on a cruise ship to even see if I like it. The pay would be more than their first tour out with the apprenticeship & not as long. What do you think? Worth it or no?
@@birrandaking5954 well just getting the mmc doesnt get you on a ship you have to have basic lifboat watersurvival firstaid and firefighting endorsements. Going on a cruise ship may be better for you depending on what you actually want to do (deck engine gally) or service related. The ncl pride of america (based in hawaii sends their crew to piney point to get basic training so i would look there. they are not part of the union so its really only the service related people that get trained there deck hands and engine are siu. Also cruise ships are pretty different from other comercial vessels
Great video Thanks for all the helpful info!!! any advice on what to bring when you start classes clothes necessary items ? and can you drive your own car to the school ?
Im about to start class next month (Class 911), when you talk to the school they give you a very detailed list of everything required/allowed. Unless you have someone to drive your car back from the school probly not, you're not allowed to leave campus while there.
What's up Sparky? Some changes are that it's 60 Days Phase II Departmental Specific, Deck or Engine. SA will sail 120 on Union Scale.
MR.GUY! So good to hear from you. glad you're still watching after the RV wash video Haha. Keep an eye out for the rest of the videos, I think you'll enjoy them. Also thank you for the Phase 2 update.
@@JoeFranta The RV video was a little over the top. LOL! I will be posting again soon as well.
Do you need to be vaccinated?
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Awesome.
Interested in joining and begin my carrier as electrician
Could you do a video about a ship mechanical engineer job?
hi Joe, my name is shawn I really like your videos and it's inspiring me to become a merchant, mariner myself however, there are some questions that I have first do I have to take an exam in order to get my merchant mariner credential and if I do, where can I find the materials to pass the test so I can get onto the SIU?
Hey Joe thanks for sharing your experience, its great. Question is it possible for a non US citizen person to work onboard ?
Out of curiosity (Not sure if you can answer this), whats the ballpark of pay like while going through the SIU program?
I would like to know as well
So u have a passport, a twic an mmc snd stcw done.
Then you get tour dental stuff aligned.
Then, You apply to SIU.
My mmc is from a cruise ship.
Will i need an updated physical? More shots /vaccines?
Or can i just apply.
Also, how physical is this apprenticeship. Do i need to be in great shape?
Im 45 this month.
Thanks
I'd reach out to SIU they will help you with final steps regarding physical/vaccine requirements. There were plenty of people not in great shape who did just fine when i was there.
What happened with you? I'm just curious because I'm actually going through this process right now. I am trying to come in as a C Book so I went and signed up at the union hall and had to pay $515 to join and do a little test. They are now sending me to do a physical and drug test and want shot records but said you can get them done through the contracted medical doctor if you don't have them. I'm not sure how long it will take to get a ship because they said you can be waiting awhile because the lack of positions available due to apprenticeship people taking priority over C Books. There are a lot of variables so I'm trying to be patient and see what happens. I am going to give it a few weeks and go from there. I'll check back in later with an update.
@@RealLifeRebelhow did it go for you with the c book, did you ever get a job?
@@Foodforestculture no i actually had a problem with my physical because of medical history that im trying to clear up now. I signed up at the union but i cant get work until i straighten out my medical status. I think i might be ready in a couple months and then go back. I will try to update you if i get work as c book. I have just been working normal jobs until i am eligible.
I have friends that have worked on private yachts in a number of different positions and all have reported getting seasick on the job even in the calmer waters of the Med as opposed to the much more turbulent waters of the Pacific and Atlantic.
Since the ships you work on are so much bigger than yachts do you get seasick often? Are you allowed to bring medication on board to fight seasickness or does the company you work for supply you with medication?
Most ships have the anti motion sickness meds,
only if you wish to join a union correct
I have worked union for almost 40 yrs, and I am always amazed at the massive, expensive smear campaigns against us. If the company has a problem with everyone working off a set contract book, then that is a company to watch out for.
So much false information out there.
@@kingofcastlechaos any help in how to get into these jobs or find them? i work in a factory and currently in a weld school
Where can i start?? Any link i can go too? It really seems like an interesting career!
Hi Joe, can I skip somes phases in the program or get the B book if I already sailed for 1 year?? As a deck cadet in Mexico, I am US citizen and I have all my documents ready (MMC, twic, passport, medical certificate) i just need to do the courses
that sweatshirt looks SO good onYou... yay you &blessing'Z aLLover [piney point ain't SObad neither] xOxOx
Lol thanks!
I guess EU nationals can't easily do that program without a US visa?
How do i get into these jobs or how do i research them? Is there a website for it? Help
If i decide to graduate as an AB but later down the road i want to sail in fhe engine department does SIU allow you to switch over and pay for your training for engine department?
hello, can a ordinary seaman join and be a watchman?
Do you know of anything i can do in the south of the uk for this? because i cant just fly to america
Just a quick question sir so Do I need to be us citezen to get the MMC I just filed my N-400 last month but I currently hold a green card?
do sailors have restrictions on where to live?
Like can I work at the ship and live in another country??
When you went the siu route don't you have to have a dental exam does that mean like no cavities what would fail Bc I wanna do siu route
If I have the periodontitis the gum disease is that an automatic no ?
This may be a really stupid question but you don't get payed for any of this right? Is it like an internship while you're doing phase 2?
You get paid 20 a week or something
How much did it cost at Piney point Maryland
I'm about to be phase 5 and to be honest with you I don't feel ready yet to be an AB. The only thing I am great at is steering. Mooring is especially confusing to me, and I feel like I don't "get" it. Do you have any recommendations for what to do, or do you think that I am way overthinking this? Because that's what everyone else is telling me.
To be honest every ship has slightly different mooring ops. Yea, you have inshore, offshore springs etc but they way you tie up is always a little different ship to ship. The fact that you can steer is huge. ABs get fired from ships for not knowing how to steer. Not to mention that you're worried about your performance is telling enough that you have the right attitude. You're gonna be fine brother.
@@JoeFranta Thanks for the reply!
Is there a big difference between the steering on the ship and simulator?
@@jaimerios3185 i would say so yes, but it depends on what the variables are on the simulator.
I’ve known guys that had been sailing for years and they weren’t ready to be AB’s and they could of cared less.Confidence comes with time and experience.It’s overconfidence and apathy that are truly dangerous.
Class 275A 1979
What’s the Annual Salary Of This Job?
It can vary based on the size of the ship and job. Lowest rank deckhand makes anywhere from 30-37k a year assuming working 6 months at sea. Lowest ranked deck officer from 89-130k a year working 6 months. Captain or chief engineer start at least 180k and can go well above that. All of this is big ships, smaller vessels pay less
I did a little googling about pay, the claim was an able bodied seaman earns around $42,000.00 a year….is this accurate or over or under in the real world (for an American)?
I was thinking the same, i work in a 9-5 job factory. I only make about 48k a year. I was thinking abt this kind of job but if its only 42k and risking my life not worthy i think
@@fastdeliveryl708 that’s entry level pay, it goes up from there. If you’re single it would be great. Your at sea with no where to spend your money, so if you keep yourself employed and at sea you could have a lot of cash to put down on a house.
@@donc9275 can you help me with the process to start a entry job with no school?. i have some notes wrote down but i dont know where to start from
@@fastdeliveryl708did you try it
Hello will I need a high school diploma or GED
Do you get paid during Apprenticeship program?
What ages did you notice for other students here? Were they all essentially under 30? Or were there some older folks training for a new career, too?
The ages varied. I was 30. There were alot of guys in their 20s but also a few in their 40s and 50s.
@@JoeFranta thanks, man I appreciate the info
Do you not fancy doing officer training bro?
Yeah totally. But because I've taken the unlicensed route I need to acquire 1080 sea days before I can sit for my classes. 1 more voyage and I should have my time.
@@JoeFranta ah right, will give you a follow on insta mate, I am nearly finished my officer cadetship, in my last year of just sea time to complete, all academics are done and passed apart from final MCA written and orals.
@@malcolm9650 Hell yea man, congrats that's awesome! Yeah, reach out on insta
@@JoeFranta thanks mate, will do keep an eye out
I have a fear of heights would that be a problem for going deck? I have my passport already and my twic is on the way in the mail. Getting ready to do the physical and drug test for the mmc. If it os would galley probably be a better option for me?
Is this program a better opportunity for people out of high school due to getting little to no pay while being in the apprenticeship program?
Yes
Hey,
So if I get my STCW, MMC & TWIC do I still need to go through Sui to become a Deckhand?
No, after you get your MMC take an STCW class, the. find yourself a job. Join the union as a C Book or apply to other companies. Good luck!
Thank you
What happened?
If I'm not an U.S. Citizen, can i apply to the SIU program as foreign person? thanks for your help
No you cannot
you get paid during the program? I mean, like a reduced salary or something, enough to maintain usual expenses?
During Phase 1 there was no pay. Phase 2 is a reduced rate. The finances and expenses are something that definitely needs a plan before starting this path.
thanks@@JoeFranta
I’m looking into Bluewater Maritime School. Is SIU a better option?
I've never heard of it man. There are so many options...
@@JoeFranta I just got off the phone with SIU not long ago, they said I can be in the Union without attending the school. So I’ll probably just get in as a C Book and work my way up
Hey joe I wanted to reach out , im 28 years old Is there an age limit to get into this ? I’ve been driving semi trucks (ClassA ) for Budweiser since I graduated college in 2019 and I’ve been itching to get into the maritime industry
I didn't start my training until I was right around 30 and before this career I was a truck driver for Budweiser as well!
@@JoeFranta hey anyway I can do this without going to Piney point ? I have Twic and passport but I can’t afford to go too long without pay
apply for your MMC. after you get that, take a class to get your STCW or BST.
How much do you make while in the program?
Nothing during the first phase. A reduced salary then normal during the second phase.
Do they pay you while your in training ?
Yes
Do you get paid while in phase 2 on the ship?
Yes... a very low rate.
Love your videos. I'm looking into a second career. I'm getting ready to retire from the federal government. I'm in my 50's...Am I too old? Would a guy who is 57 be able to work as an OS?
If you pass the physical, you can work. However working on deck can be a little hard at times. BUT standing watch is easy and the old timers love it. If you're worried about it, maybe consider the stewart dept
@@JoeFranta I'm in pretty good shape and like the idea of deck, I've been in an office for years. How long does it take to go from OS to AB? Thanks
@@seanburlile6616 u have to have certain sea time before u can take the AB position. I don’t know how long.
@@FriendlingIlocano Yeah, thats what I thought, I just wasn't sure how much time. I thought I read somewhere that it is 1080 days.
Do you get paid through the class
You do not get paid until the 2nd phase
I have everything done. Do I have to take the test to join SIU ?
Yea, so go to the union hall and talk to them, youll have to take it there. practice your fractions!
Thank you! My cousin Marlon he’s been in SIU for 18 yrs as a chief cook. Hopefully I can pass the test.
judging by your short you passed it. Congrats man@@FriendlingIlocano
@@FriendlingIlocanodid you pass
This seems cool. Looking for ideas after my 8 years in the USMC. Any formers out there that can shine a light on this career path? Ive never been on a MEU. Most I've ever been on were combat boats 🥹
I didnt come to this career from the military but a large portion of people in the career have.