Shes soo good. She qualified top for floor and vault and off course to the AA final. She preformed at ALL the event finals and hit 15/16 routines and walked out of these championship s with 5 medals. Unbelievable. If it werent for that ACL injury she would have, without a doubt, definitely won the 2011 worlds and the AA at the 2012 olympics.
Same here! Alexandrov clearly was the one who implemented good choreography in Russian floor routines because once he left they just went down hill. And look at the Brazilian team they have great floor routines!
I know, she is such a good and dedicated athlete. That and after not being on top of the world, she (at least to me) seems to appreciate the medals she wins. She was very very happy with a bronze on floor. Before, she would have just been O.K. with a bronze or even a silver on floor because she was so good. She's learned from that injury which is great
This was a near perfect routine!!!! Im very impressed. I saw her all around, team and event finals and they were oustanding! I think Aliya will go VERY far in this world of gymnastics! This girl has got it all! Yeah, she has her flaws here and there, but what gymnast doesnt?! Props to Mustafina!
If it weren't for her ACL injury, it would've been the ultimate showndown between Aliya, Viktoria & Gabby in the 2012 AA. If everyone hits, Aliya would probably come out on top, but considering all consistency factors, especially her beam, it'll be harder to tell
I rag on Musty for a lot of things, her shiteous twisting being first, but these landings are incredible. I was always impressed by how well she could stick a landing on floor when it counted.
And yet after that injury with leaving her a little more than a year to recover, get back into shape, and get back to hard routines she won four medals at the Olympics!
For those wondering the deductions come from small form breaks...meaning her leg form. Most gymnast get that deduction. It's almost built in. The more twisting the more form deduction. And Mustafina is a twister. She only has one Somersault in this particular floor exercise. Most of you are right she has very clean execution overall and good landings. Only visible error is her Memmel turn. The drop of the leg before completing vertical is kinda a big deduction. Let's not forget her SV is only5.8
shes amazing i wish she didnt mess up in floor finals but she said she was so tired by then because she did so many routines at worllds but i hope she doesnt get injjured
@KVHolland3 I think Mustafina has a great chance. From what I have seen in the past weeks she keeps adding difficulty and its perfecting her routines with 2012 in mind. I say now is time to pick the skills that you are good at and keep practicing...She just needs to stay healthy.
@sqekcx Crossed legs can only receive a .1 deduction according to the Code of Points. Leg separations can only receive higher than a .1 deduction if they are greater than shoulder width, and even then only .3. Your argument would be valid if the Code of Points supported it. It does not.
@KVHolland3 This is true. there are improvements to be made...now that Octavian Belu is back on the Romanian team as head coach who knows whats will happen. He had already done wonders for what little time he has had. I also wonder if little Mustafina is as great as her sister. So many exciting things bound to happen in gymnastics.
@KVHolland3 I just think there is so much talent. Its hard to tell but I feel Mustafina whats this more than anything and that will keep her going especially after little mustafina cannot compete.
@LCAmarkymark This lady made all finals, finishing 1st at 3 out of 5 finals!! Mysdrikova pas present during training podium, Hope to see her at team final at least. We need her!
@LCAmarkymark Well looking back at 2009 videos she seems to be growing so that means she is fighting the growth...but the keys for her are probably avoid injury and keep consistency...I think as much difficulty as she has she dosen't want to become a victim of the lack of Difficult as we saw in 2008 from Russia. Perfection is great, but you need tons of difficulty too. Semenova, Pavlova, and Kramarenko experienced that in 2008...So she needs to keep ahead of the difficulty line.
@abctooeasy The double Arabian and double front are of the same difficulty. You could argue that the double Arabian is harder because of the half turn but it isn't because the double front has a forward take off. Like a front 1/1 twist is a C and a back 1/1 twist is a B. Forward take off and 1/2 turn cancel each other out. Also, a double Arabian is in a way a double front because in the CoP, is is awknowledged as a front pass and there are two saltos, so double front. Still different though.
@LCAmarkymark Sorry for the misunderstanding. A 2.5 (D worth .4) + a 1/1 laid out (C worth .3) has a .2 CV. .4 + .3 + .2 = .9. That's for the entire pass counting towards a D score.
@LCAmarkymark Sorry, I realised I made a mistake in my post so wanted to repost! I was just going to say that we have to be careful when adding on points for 'risk' and make sure a risky move is not just a poorly performed move. I do think that artistic value is being recognised in the code, that is why someone like Mustafina or Liukin will score much higher for the same moves than someone like Johnson. With the legs crossing when twisting, I really admire how the Americans perform their twists!
@ASME0071 I can agree with that...for me I just don't think it matters as long as they complete the twist. I believe that crossed or not is a specific style chose of the gymnast..Mustafina crosses her legs Ghrisina doesn't cross her legs....its a choice or maybe harder for gymnast with certain injuries I remember when Khorkina didn't cross her legs and then 2003 lol...she was crossing them lol. Thats what I feel the FIG feels towards twisting.
@LCAmarkymark She hit it at the Tokyo Cup (?). She got a 15.55 somewhere. And there are plenty of high scoring passes. A 2.5 + 1/1 is worth .9 which is more than a G skill.
@LCAmarkymark And Alexander Artemov (or whomever) said that they're looking for consistency and who can peform under pressure. I'd say Nabieva has shown she fails to peform under pressure. Dementyeva could grow badly as well if she gains weight she'll have a rough time. Komova even needs to work on her Endurance because at the YOG she was great in qual. and the AA, VT, and Bars. But then she failed Beam and floor and looked "tired". Plus we haven't talked about the chance of injuries.
@KVHolland3 I don't mean right now in her career. Maybe at the 2012 olympics...she is just so tight tucked when she does the double that she can fit another element in there. Dos Santos could but it wouldn't look so good. I just think with all this new talent Semenova will be pushed out before the 2012 Olympics
@KVHolland3 This is true...Shannon Miller basically won her titles at this point in her career but Im not sure how this will pan out. I am going off of the way that scoring has been favoring power over grace. Mustafina will get heavier as she gets older but she will be able to keep the grace and and the harder elements....I think she could do a triple arabian...you never know. I just think Russia's juniors are doing well and are going to do some great things.
Does anyone notice at the end when she lands her triple twist, the guy behind the stand pick up a mic??? Hes the guy that announces the names of each gymnast!!
I think this is a tad underscored. She stuck all of those landings cold. The only deductions I can find are 0.1 on her 2.5 and triple for form, and 0.1 for lack of control and 0.1 for precision on her memmel. Anyone wanna help with the other deductions cause I don't see them lol.
Leg separation on the double arabian, bent knees on the full front, leg separation on the 1.5 front, and you also have to consider that judges always give 0.2/0.3 minimum for artistry, so i think the score is correct
@wineformybetches 4. Lets take a look at Dementyeva's body physique...when (not if) she grows, it'll be like Khorkina and the 2000 Olympic vault, except on all four events... 5. Myzdrikova, Kurbatova, Semenova, and Afanasyeva weakend this year, there kinda still adjusting to being old gymnast and I'm guessing well be joined by Pavlova for being the Veterans.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 .9 bonus...I thought it was only a .3..the highest connection values I have seen ever on floor was bross with .8 for the whole routine.
I believe that the Russian's are close to their best, if Nabieva and Mustafina carry on to 2012 and Komova does, too, then that's 3 6.5 D scores on vault in the team final. No one on the Russian team is amazing on bars except for Mustafina - this means that for 2012, two more gymnasts need to improve, or they will have new comers. Semenova can STILL give a good bar routine, I'd say at her best she could score around a 15.100? Beam is strong, new-coming gymnasts from Russia will set a task.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 well she can't hit it because the requirements for floor are too high and demanding..my point being that if a floor routine was going to be 6.5 to 7.0 range it would be the same basic moves, passes, and dance elements because there isn't enough F or G elements on floor compared to the other events...Mitchell once she gets this routine down will still be at a disadvantage because E scores for floor are also low.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 @abctooeasy great thing they are rated the same huh? Now they are equal lol. I don't know why the FIG made them the same but they are nothing we can do but wish they would grant connection values to dance elements so gymanst can have a higer d score on floor...can any one tell me of a gymnast that has a d score of 7 on the foor or even a 6.5..would like to see that routine.
@sqekcx That was GORGEOUS lol! No gymnasts can be perfect but her landings were flawless. So she has form issues that are annoying but even the best gymnasts can have something flawed. No one is perfect unless they are a robot.
@PeachVampire94 Yes but to educate non gymnastics fan you have to be precise and teach them the difference because they are different tumbles. Nastia does a front double Aliya adds a half turn to it. A Arabian is a bit harder but the two skills are both rated the same "E". Non gymnastics fan would appreciate these technical differences. True knowledgeable fans would never say Aliya does a double front. Judges would credit her a Arabian not a double front. I don't like having people be misinform.
@PeachVampire94 Technically you are right but to be precise they are different elements and have different names. Nastia does a front hand spring double front (double front). Aliya does it from a back hand spring and does a half turn into the double front which is called a "Arabian" Not to sound rude or anything but you probably don't know too much about gymnastics technical stuff. Nastia = double front Aliya = double Arabian.
@sqekcx well until they right that in the code of points gymnast with "good form" will be penalized...she won this one so now we move on to the next big event...Worlds...its suppose to be in Japan..did they change where the event is happening?
fanstastic! I am so happy that she is doing so well. I am worried about her teammate Anna Myzdrivkova. Where is she at lol. I think Russia is the team to beat and they left competitors at home like Anna.
@LCAmarkymark Ummm maybe an over statment...Komova is amazing but that's about it Grishina could scrap up a spot but I don't think that's likley unless some of the Seniors get injured. I'm wondering if Mustafina is peaking to early. The Russians almost always peak at 16-17 then hit a terrible slump and then are good again by about 19.
@KVHolland3 Oh okay. But back in 2010, Myzdrikova and Semenova both were in a slump, and Kurbatova was basically useless, besides vault. But I have some faith in Pavlova. She's too headcasey but she really is getting there.
Well there is a deduction for crossed legs, but I didn't think that deducted much and other than that, the execution was pretty much spotless, but I suck at determining scores, so who knows.
@ASME0071 I don't agree..gymnast for years have had crossed legs..even gymnast that are considered to be the best back in the 80's had crossed legs .1 is plenty since its hard anyway to get a high D Score as it is. Since you are say is dangerous and harder to do twist with crossed legs maybe the gymnast should get extra bonus for the risk factor? I guess you can consider it sloppy legs but really it doesn't matter in this code of points and neither does artistic vaule which this gymnast has.
@LCAmarkymark No she's getting better, you should no better then to doubt the Russians, once they get over the whole slump after their first Olympics they become a timeless. The Russians haven't really had many Olympics where they don't have 1 or sometimes 2 veterans. You must be kidding right a TRIPLE ARABIAN...do men do that. That would be to risky...she could think of a Dos Santos. But she's putting her gymnastics career up for grabs if she ever attempted a TRIPLE ARABIAN.
@LCAmarkymark I meant that she will never do a Triple Arabian. People always say she has a wonderful Arabian but she cowboys it a little and in Podium Training she fell (backwards) she has to tuck so much because she lacks height. How could the Dos Santos "not look so good" Ok next year we have Mustafina, Semenova, Afanasyeva, Kurbatova, Myzdrikova, Nabieva, Dementyeva, and Komova. That can probably challenge for a Worlds Spot. I'd say Myzdrikova's got pushed out and Kurbatova will be out.
KVHolland3 is forgetting Grishina, little Mustafina, Malikova, Sidorova.... *sigh* And the reason Komova was "tired" during EF in YO in Singapore was because her doping tests ( which were taken one day before EF!!!) took longer than expected for some reason...and she had to stay up till 2:00 am....
@wineformybetches Maybe not growing pains but maybe growing itself does...it's not like Semenova decided to gain weight in 2009...Zamo, Nabieva, and tons of other Russians go through huge mental complications...Mustafina might but I see her being in the same slump Semenova and Afanasyeva are in now...I hope Komova proves me wrong but I'll be shocked if she does. I would love the dream team too and I'll admit I prefer Semenova and Afanasyeva over all other Russians but I don't see it happening.
@LMA629 Like I said, there is nothing special about this routine; especially in 2010 with the floor equipment being its springiest. When you had gymnasts in the 80's doing double-doubles, it would only make sense that nearly 15-years later with a proper progression of difficulty, double-doubles would be an average element and triples would be common. BTW, I'm not sure what height has to do with technique, but many female gymnasts of today are stocky and muscular (hence, more powerful?).
Or it might even only be a 5.7 if she didn't get credit for her Memmel turn. Either way, this was a great exercise. And a good score. That means they only found less than one point in deductions. Big deal in the last quad. Remember she usually performs a Stag Jump out of the Double Arabian to avoid deduction and for an extra .1 in CV and she didn't do that here. And I'm willing to bet they deducted her in her landing of first pass. The artistry and elegance are almost surreal here though!
@LCAmarkymark Did I miss understand you you said you think she can do a TRIPLE Arabian...First lets see if there's women that can do triple saltos on floor in the first place...I just see unfortunatley that Dementeyva will end up growing badly...Semenova lost her status as a world class gymnast because she grew and it hampered her bars
@KVHolland3 Where is this generalization comes from? Zamo was at her best at 18th, Sveta was world champion since 18th and on, Produnova and Pavlova were amazing at 17-18th. Teribble slump for Russians between 17-19? don't think so. It's totally individual without any coneection to where ur coming from..
@abctooeasy I'm not a Miss. Look above and you'll understand how they are the same. You said the double front is harder which is not true. You're very self-absorbed and won't listen to other people when they prove you wrong.
It annoys me that the code of points doesn't penalise the sloppy legs on her twisting! I don't know much about the technical side, but I prefer to watch gymnasts that are tight and clean twisting in the air. They should receive higher points for that in execution. A 0.1 deduction for crossed legs isn't enough! It also seems rather dangerous to me, wouldn't it be harder to land clean if your legs are twisted mid air?
@abctooeasy She had helicopter feet and she should have been deducted for that. Instead she was given huge numbers and blind fans like you appreciate her.
Shes soo good. She qualified top for floor and vault and off course to the AA final. She preformed at ALL the event finals and hit 15/16 routines and walked out of these championship s with 5 medals. Unbelievable. If it werent for that ACL injury she would have, without a doubt, definitely won the 2011 worlds and the AA at the 2012 olympics.
Looking at the judges after the first pass (and during the entire routine) makes me so happy. One of the best routines ever, IMO.
This routine, in my opinion, was not only the best routine of the championships, but of the entire quad--even better than Komova's in the AA.
I disagree. Komova had better landings, more expression in her dance and her twisting form was beautiful.
0:37 she almost did the Mustafina turn 😍
Honestly I get chills every time
I miss this quad of russian choreo
Same here! Alexandrov clearly was the one who implemented good choreography in Russian floor routines because once he left they just went down hill. And look at the Brazilian team they have great floor routines!
I know, she is such a good and dedicated athlete. That and after not being on top of the world, she (at least to me) seems to appreciate the medals she wins. She was very very happy with a bronze on floor. Before, she would have just been O.K. with a bronze or even a silver on floor because she was so good. She's learned from that injury which is great
I totally agree
This routine shows that Aliya should never be judged for podium training. It's a big mistake.
This was a near perfect routine!!!! Im very impressed. I saw her all around, team and event finals and they were oustanding! I think Aliya will go VERY far in this world of gymnastics! This girl has got it all! Yeah, she has her flaws here and there, but what gymnast doesnt?! Props to Mustafina!
Watch her routine from the podium training, then this one. It's incredible. That's one of the things I love most about her.
If it weren't for her ACL injury, it would've been the ultimate showndown between Aliya, Viktoria & Gabby in the 2012 AA. If everyone hits, Aliya would probably come out on top, but considering all consistency factors, especially her beam, it'll be harder to tell
The triple turn, omg!
My fave song of Aliyas just amazing
I love her choreography!!! Aliya seems so graceful.
I rag on Musty for a lot of things, her shiteous twisting being first, but these landings are incredible. I was always impressed by how well she could stick a landing on floor when it counted.
And yet after that injury with leaving her a little more than a year to recover, get back into shape, and get back to hard routines she won four medals at the Olympics!
hOLY CRAP, HER DOUBLE ARABIAN IS SO HIGH
I just love how the announcers in the back are in awe of her gymnastics!!!!
For those wondering the deductions come from small form breaks...meaning her leg form. Most gymnast get that deduction. It's almost built in. The more twisting the more form deduction. And Mustafina is a twister. She only has one Somersault in this particular floor exercise. Most of you are right she has very clean execution overall and good landings. Only visible error is her Memmel turn. The drop of the leg before completing vertical is kinda a big deduction. Let's not forget her SV is only5.8
Crossed legs. It's Mustafina's principal problem. Doesn't matter that much, her swan elegance is hypnotic.
shes amazing i wish she didnt mess up in floor finals but she said she was so tired by then because she did so many routines at worllds but i hope she doesnt get injjured
@KVHolland3 I think Mustafina has a great chance. From what I have seen in the past weeks she keeps adding difficulty and its perfecting her routines with 2012 in mind. I say now is time to pick the skills that you are good at and keep practicing...She just needs to stay healthy.
Still gives me goose bumps
@sqekcx Crossed legs can only receive a .1 deduction according to the Code of Points. Leg separations can only receive higher than a .1 deduction if they are greater than shoulder width, and even then only .3. Your argument would be valid if the Code of Points supported it. It does not.
@KVHolland3 This is true. there are improvements to be made...now that Octavian Belu is back on the Romanian team as head coach who knows whats will happen. He had already done wonders for what little time he has had. I also wonder if little Mustafina is as great as her sister. So many exciting things bound to happen in gymnastics.
@KVHolland3 I just think there is so much talent. Its hard to tell but I feel Mustafina whats this more than anything and that will keep her going especially after little mustafina cannot compete.
@LCAmarkymark This lady made all finals, finishing 1st at 3 out of 5 finals!! Mysdrikova pas present during training podium, Hope to see her at team final at least. We need her!
Just amazing
after 5 years i just realized aliya is a lefty
Explain
+Musty Fan she starts her round off with the left foot I guess, if it is that, I just realized either
@soberanis100 well little mustafina is out....Grishina is very good so very excited to see her
I am a fan of aliya mustafina and I am also doing gymnastics
@LCAmarkymark Well looking back at 2009 videos she seems to be growing so that means she is fighting the growth...but the keys for her are probably avoid injury and keep consistency...I think as much difficulty as she has she dosen't want to become a victim of the lack of Difficult as we saw in 2008 from Russia. Perfection is great, but you need tons of difficulty too. Semenova, Pavlova, and Kramarenko experienced that in 2008...So she needs to keep ahead of the difficulty line.
perfection!!!
@abctooeasy The double Arabian and double front are of the same difficulty. You could argue that the double Arabian is harder because of the half turn but it isn't because the double front has a forward take off. Like a front 1/1 twist is a C and a back 1/1 twist is a B. Forward take off and 1/2 turn cancel each other out. Also, a double Arabian is in a way a double front because in the CoP, is is awknowledged as a front pass and there are two saltos, so double front. Still different though.
@LCAmarkymark Sorry for the misunderstanding. A 2.5 (D worth .4) + a 1/1 laid out (C worth .3) has a .2 CV. .4 + .3 + .2 = .9. That's for the entire pass counting towards a D score.
I can watch 1:31 over and over again. Her leg form is amazing.
@LCAmarkymark I know. But actually, Lauren Mitchell has a 6.5 floor routine.
@LCAmarkymark Sorry, I realised I made a mistake in my post so wanted to repost! I was just going to say that we have to be careful when adding on points for 'risk' and make sure a risky move is not just a poorly performed move. I do think that artistic value is being recognised in the code, that is why someone like Mustafina or Liukin will score much higher for the same moves than someone like Johnson. With the legs crossing when twisting, I really admire how the Americans perform their twists!
@abctooeasy Yes that is CORRECT explanation :)
@ASME0071 I can agree with that...for me I just don't think it matters as long as they complete the twist. I believe that crossed or not is a specific style chose of the gymnast..Mustafina crosses her legs Ghrisina doesn't cross her legs....its a choice or maybe harder for gymnast with certain injuries I remember when Khorkina didn't cross her legs and then 2003 lol...she was crossing them lol. Thats what I feel the FIG feels towards twisting.
one of the best gymnasts with this new stick landings thingy
She kind of reminds me of the ukranian rhythmic gymnast Anna Bessonova. Both are very pretty and excellent dancers
@LCAmarkymark She hit it at the Tokyo Cup (?). She got a 15.55 somewhere. And there are plenty of high scoring passes. A 2.5 + 1/1 is worth .9 which is more than a G skill.
@LCAmarkymark And Alexander Artemov (or whomever) said that they're looking for consistency and who can peform under pressure. I'd say Nabieva has shown she fails to peform under pressure. Dementyeva could grow badly as well if she gains weight she'll have a rough time. Komova even needs to work on her Endurance because at the YOG she was great in qual. and the AA, VT, and Bars. But then she failed Beam and floor and looked "tired". Plus we haven't talked about the chance of injuries.
@KVHolland3 I don't mean right now in her career. Maybe at the 2012 olympics...she is just so tight tucked when she does the double that she can fit another element in there. Dos Santos could but it wouldn't look so good. I just think with all this new talent Semenova will be pushed out before the 2012 Olympics
@KVHolland3 This is true...Shannon Miller basically won her titles at this point in her career but Im not sure how this will pan out. I am going off of the way that scoring has been favoring power over grace. Mustafina will get heavier as she gets older but she will be able to keep the grace and and the harder elements....I think she could do a triple arabian...you never know. I just think Russia's juniors are doing well and are going to do some great things.
Does anyone notice at the end when she lands her triple twist, the guy behind the stand pick up a mic??? Hes the guy that announces the names of each gymnast!!
@sigaljarby Myzdrikova got moved out of the tf spot and was replaced by Dementyeva...
She is such a complete gymnast, she reminds me of a Soviet (though that Y turn could use some work)
@wineformybetches I agree
I think this is a tad underscored. She stuck all of those landings cold. The only deductions I can find are 0.1 on her 2.5 and triple for form, and 0.1 for lack of control and 0.1 for precision on her memmel. Anyone wanna help with the other deductions cause I don't see them lol.
Leg separation on the double arabian, bent knees on the full front, leg separation on the 1.5 front, and you also have to consider that judges always give 0.2/0.3 minimum for artistry, so i think the score is correct
@wineformybetches And that one spot will probably go to either Anna Dementyeva or Yulia Belokobylskaya. I'm still hoping for Pavs though.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Yeah that was 7 months ago...now with none of them except Afanasyeva in sight it leaves me with no hope...
@wineformybetches
4. Lets take a look at Dementyeva's body physique...when (not if) she grows, it'll be like Khorkina and the 2000 Olympic vault, except on all four events...
5. Myzdrikova, Kurbatova, Semenova, and Afanasyeva weakend this year, there kinda still adjusting to being old gymnast and I'm guessing well be joined by Pavlova for being the Veterans.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 .9 bonus...I thought it was only a .3..the highest connection values I have seen ever on floor was bross with .8 for the whole routine.
@LCAmarkymark Oh haha the 2013 CoP is confusing. Score=Difficulty + Execution(2).
i know you posted this a long time ago but just out of curiousity can you tell me what are helicopter feet? please
@soberanis100 I'd say Grishina has a chance. I admit I was forgetting Grishina completley but the rest probably not...
I believe that the Russian's are close to their best, if Nabieva and Mustafina carry on to 2012 and Komova does, too, then that's 3 6.5 D scores on vault in the team final. No one on the Russian team is amazing on bars except for Mustafina - this means that for 2012, two more gymnasts need to improve, or they will have new comers. Semenova can STILL give a good bar routine, I'd say at her best she could score around a 15.100? Beam is strong, new-coming gymnasts from Russia will set a task.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 well she can't hit it because the requirements for floor are too high and demanding..my point being that if a floor routine was going to be 6.5 to 7.0 range it would be the same basic moves, passes, and dance elements because there isn't enough F or G elements on floor compared to the other events...Mitchell once she gets this routine down will still be at a disadvantage because E scores for floor are also low.
@KVHolland3 That Grishina comment... She's got so much difficulty now! DTY, Memmel, Gogean... She's going to be insane in 2012.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 @abctooeasy great thing they are rated the same huh? Now they are equal lol. I don't know why the FIG made them the same but they are nothing we can do but wish they would grant connection values to dance elements so gymanst can have a higer d score on floor...can any one tell me of a gymnast that has a d score of 7 on the foor or even a 6.5..would like to see that routine.
@sqekcx That was GORGEOUS lol! No gymnasts can be perfect but her landings were flawless. So she has form issues that are annoying but even the best gymnasts can have something flawed. No one is perfect unless they are a robot.
she has got the whole package! I think she is the one!
@PeachVampire94 Yes but to educate non gymnastics fan you have to be precise and teach them the difference because they are different tumbles. Nastia does a front double Aliya adds a half turn to it. A Arabian is a bit harder but the two skills are both rated the same "E". Non gymnastics fan would appreciate these technical differences. True knowledgeable fans would never say Aliya does a double front. Judges would credit her a Arabian not a double front. I don't like having people be misinform.
@PeachVampire94 Technically you are right but to be precise they are different elements and have different names. Nastia does a front hand spring double front (double front). Aliya does it from a back hand spring and does a half turn into the double front which is called a "Arabian" Not to sound rude or anything but you probably don't know too much about gymnastics technical stuff. Nastia = double front Aliya = double Arabian.
@sqekcx well until they right that in the code of points gymnast with "good form" will be penalized...she won this one so now we move on to the next big event...Worlds...its suppose to be in Japan..did they change where the event is happening?
fanstastic! I am so happy that she is doing so well. I am worried about her teammate Anna Myzdrivkova. Where is she at lol. I think Russia is the team to beat and they left competitors at home like Anna.
@PeachVampire94 I see your points, but Aliya does not do a double front.
@sqekcx I don't understand what r u saying. What do u mean the score makes people hate her?
wow!
@LCAmarkymark Ummm maybe an over statment...Komova is amazing but that's about it Grishina could scrap up a spot but I don't think that's likley unless some of the Seniors get injured. I'm wondering if Mustafina is peaking to early. The Russians almost always peak at 16-17 then hit a terrible slump and then are good again by about 19.
@KVHolland3 Oh okay. But back in 2010, Myzdrikova and Semenova both were in a slump, and Kurbatova was basically useless, besides vault. But I have some faith in Pavlova. She's too headcasey but she really is getting there.
Well there is a deduction for crossed legs, but I didn't think that deducted much and other than that, the execution was pretty much spotless, but I suck at determining scores, so who knows.
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 lol okay I thought this was new 2013 code lol...thats cool
@KVHolland3 Sorry to reply again, but I highly doubt any of them will be on the team. Maybe Afanasyeva or Pavs.
@ASME0071 I don't agree..gymnast for years have had crossed legs..even gymnast that are considered to be the best back in the 80's had crossed legs .1 is plenty since its hard anyway to get a high D Score as it is. Since you are say is dangerous and harder to do twist with crossed legs maybe the gymnast should get extra bonus for the risk factor? I guess you can consider it sloppy legs but really it doesn't matter in this code of points and neither does artistic vaule which this gymnast has.
i think she will win the all around. no offence to Rebecca and Aly / Mattie. she is just so much more graceful and eligant.
now thats a triple turn
@LCAmarkymark No she's getting better, you should no better then to doubt the Russians, once they get over the whole slump after their first Olympics they become a timeless. The Russians haven't really had many Olympics where they don't have 1 or sometimes 2 veterans. You must be kidding right a TRIPLE ARABIAN...do men do that. That would be to risky...she could think of a Dos Santos. But she's putting her gymnastics career up for grabs if she ever attempted a TRIPLE ARABIAN.
Мда было же время!Сейчас она уже так не может(
@KVHolland3 true Semenova is about done. You never know...I think Mustafina can do it.
@LCAmarkymark I meant that she will never do a Triple Arabian. People always say she has a wonderful Arabian but she cowboys it a little and in Podium Training she fell (backwards) she has to tuck so much because she lacks height. How could the Dos Santos "not look so good" Ok next year we have Mustafina, Semenova, Afanasyeva, Kurbatova, Myzdrikova, Nabieva, Dementyeva, and Komova. That can probably challenge for a Worlds Spot. I'd say Myzdrikova's got pushed out and Kurbatova will be out.
KVHolland3 is forgetting Grishina, little Mustafina, Malikova, Sidorova.... *sigh*
And the reason Komova was "tired" during EF in YO in Singapore was because her doping tests ( which were taken one day before EF!!!) took longer than expected for some reason...and she had to stay up till 2:00 am....
Sorry, they aren't doing what I said anymore. They're doing some weird "Difficulty + Execution(2) - 10" or something like that.
@wineformybetches Maybe not growing pains but maybe growing itself does...it's not like Semenova decided to gain weight in 2009...Zamo, Nabieva, and tons of other Russians go through huge mental complications...Mustafina might but I see her being in the same slump Semenova and Afanasyeva are in now...I hope Komova proves me wrong but I'll be shocked if she does. I would love the dream team too and I'll admit I prefer Semenova and Afanasyeva over all other Russians but I don't see it happening.
@LMA629 Like I said, there is nothing special about this routine; especially in 2010 with the floor equipment being its springiest. When you had gymnasts in the 80's doing double-doubles, it would only make sense that nearly 15-years later with a proper progression of difficulty, double-doubles would be an average element and triples would be common. BTW, I'm not sure what height has to do with technique, but many female gymnasts of today are stocky and muscular (hence, more powerful?).
@abctooeasy
wait I actually do appreciate her. I appreciate her ability to stick. But this doesn't mean her fugly leg form should be tolerated.
At those worlds she just said with her routines iam here get away!
Or it might even only be a 5.7 if she didn't get credit for her Memmel turn. Either way, this was a great exercise. And a good score. That means they only found less than one point in deductions. Big deal in the last quad. Remember she usually performs a Stag Jump out of the Double Arabian to avoid deduction and for an extra .1 in CV and she didn't do that here. And I'm willing to bet they deducted her in her landing of first pass. The artistry and elegance are almost surreal here though!
@LCAmarkymark Did I miss understand you you said you think she can do a TRIPLE Arabian...First lets see if there's women that can do triple saltos on floor in the first place...I just see unfortunatley that Dementeyva will end up growing badly...Semenova lost her status as a world class gymnast because she grew and it hampered her bars
@KVHolland3 Where is this generalization comes from? Zamo was at her best at 18th, Sveta was world champion since 18th and on, Produnova and Pavlova were amazing at 17-18th. Teribble slump for Russians between 17-19? don't think so. It's totally individual without any coneection to where ur coming from..
@ASME0071 I was going to respond but I can't see the post :(...just email me if you like.
is 2013 cop has 2 executations
@abctooeasy I'm not a Miss. Look above and you'll understand how they are the same. You said the double front is harder which is not true. You're very self-absorbed and won't listen to other people when they prove you wrong.
@sigaljarby RUSSIA JUST WON the team final. Wow RUSSIA is back people...and their Juniors are even better than what they have now so watch out.
great landings but her form and her score make people hate her.
Only 14.833...I don't get it her performance was flawless.
It annoys me that the code of points doesn't penalise the sloppy legs on her twisting! I don't know much about the technical side, but I prefer to watch gymnasts that are tight and clean twisting in the air. They should receive higher points for that in execution. A 0.1 deduction for crossed legs isn't enough! It also seems rather dangerous to me, wouldn't it be harder to land clean if your legs are twisted mid air?
@abctooeasy
She had helicopter feet and she should have been deducted for that. Instead she was given huge numbers and blind fans like you appreciate her.