Is Rise to War making money? (Sensor Tower Update)

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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
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Komentáře • 61

  • @danothin9137
    @danothin9137 Před 11 dny +20

    The main reason people aren’t spending is because long term players learned the devs are perfectly fine with screwing them over. 2.0 took 75% of peoples investment and threw it out the window. New players aren’t spending as much because there’s not enough players to fill servers. Idk if the devs wanted to kill the game, but they certainly accomplished that.

  • @down2engage249
    @down2engage249 Před 11 dny +16

    It’s crazy the developers haven’t addressed everyone’s concerns/complaints and it’s like they don’t even care how upset the entire community is over 2.0.

  • @dominikzalesak1526
    @dominikzalesak1526 Před 11 dny +15

    not playing till 1.0 comes back so sad was a great game with lots of strategy

  • @sigurdvarmdal1325
    @sigurdvarmdal1325 Před 11 dny +8

    Who would have thought plummiting the playerbase would be non-profitable...

  • @zivkoguduric3093
    @zivkoguduric3093 Před 11 dny +12

    I tried, 3 times to get back into game but i just cant be bothered anymore, to think i spent over 2 yrs non stop but this 2.0 transition "murdered" it for me and not just me i might add. My lotr crew did as well.

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny

      @@zivkoguduric3093 yeah same bro

    • @dwazigfruit
      @dwazigfruit Před 11 dny +1

      Exactly the same for me. I won 6 seasons, now i cant be bothered anymore

  • @mentormindset853
    @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny +11

    They see its making 3times less than 1.0 and still didnt change it back it seems like they want to lose money

    •  Před 11 dny +1

      I wouldn't expect them to revert their changes and return to 1.0. But they are certainly seeing the decline in downloads and revenue and most likely not only since a few weeks ago. And still all we are seeing is some "optimizations" here and there, but no fundamental changes like rebalancing of commanders, changes to the item system, not even new commanders. I really wonder what Netease is waiting for.

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny +1

      Yeah i think also they dont even think about giving back 1.0 they will let that game just die unfortunately

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny +1

      If i was netease i would make totally reworked game 1.0 style and just believe that it will get popular again

    • @Marko_ur
      @Marko_ur Před 11 dny +1

      They will bring 3.0 and kill the game definitly . Lets wait and nejoy last pieco of the game.
      Sad part this game is not multiplayer anymore . Its single player becouse you dont need war buffs anymore and planing attacks on stacks and 5 min taking tile slow the game . So i think game will die soon .

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny

      @@Marko_ur for me the game is already dead so

  • @Lex45173
    @Lex45173 Před 11 dny +7

    Looks like this game is going to announce the shutting down of it's servers suddenly.... They ll make sure to grab as much money they can and run away with it ..

  • @Minifutzi_o.O
    @Minifutzi_o.O Před 11 dny +4

    unfortunately the most important question. but I really like those videos bcz it's behind the curtain and gives a kinda transparent and neutral view on it

  • @GateTood-fp7qf
    @GateTood-fp7qf Před 11 dny +15

    Can someone just buy the game 😭

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny +9

      @@GateTood-fp7qf fr just give us back 1.0 and we will all start spending again

    • @allthingsmiddleearth
      @allthingsmiddleearth  Před 11 dny +4

      I wouldn’t be upset if that happened

    • @jonathandaniells5816
      @jonathandaniells5816 Před 11 dny +4

      ​@@mentormindset853i was a baby whale border line whale and in 2.0 im a shrimp lol commanders are no where near what they was and i made the mistake breaking down my gear to try and make the equipment match and lost so much

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny

      @@jonathandaniells5816 yeah i did same i was whale in s4 and small whale on my main and after changing all my gear and trying 1 season 2.0 it was soo fking bad

    • @JP-go5tr
      @JP-go5tr Před 11 dny +2

      I was a whale and I've all but quit

  • @ELGRANVALAR
    @ELGRANVALAR Před 10 dny +2

    those of us who witnessed this year how the stopped making money with Heroes of middle earth and then closed it: its going to happen again

  • @S.S.S.S856
    @S.S.S.S856 Před 11 dny +3

    I think it was 2.0 which lowered everything but I think it will rise back up to nearly where it was

    • @jonathandaniells5816
      @jonathandaniells5816 Před 11 dny +2

      Maybe for players that have never played it that 2.0 isall they know. The OG players may dabble with the game but i dont think it will ever be as popular as it was in 1.0

  • @dmart8451
    @dmart8451 Před 11 dny +1

    The download could be because the advertising has slowed down. I used to see a lot of ads for it.
    Like a lot of people I have not spent since 2.0 as the return of value is much worse imo

  • @Minifutzi_o.O
    @Minifutzi_o.O Před 11 dny +3

    Could be the main reason why developers aren't bringing events or new commanders. I guess they acknowledged that it was a mistake to change the game, bcz they didn't attract more casual gamers like they intended. On the other side I think switching back to 1.0 probably would be an even bigger loss bcz they wouldn't get the players back who left.

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny +1

      @@Minifutzi_o.O they would get them back me and my team is waiting for it and i believe we arent the only team of 60+ players waiting for this

  • @petrovepryk3786
    @petrovepryk3786 Před 11 dny +1

    I was playing Lotr for a few months in Spring, and now I'm trying Infinite Lagrange for about 5 weeks now. Cinematics, battle mechanics, city building are much, MUCH more interesting, than Lotr. But there is one thing, that throws me off. While playing LotR I didn't need to contact Support even once. And after a few days after I started the Lagrange I already needed help and had a few questions. And Infinite Lagrange Support treated me, like garbage. While I'm playing this game, and I like it, I still have thoughts about coming back to LotR. Almost daily.

  • @jonathandaniells5816
    @jonathandaniells5816 Před 11 dny +6

    2.0 ruined the game all the downloads and money spent now is from new players that never knew 1.0 i quit playing for 6 months. I am playing a new season now but not a fan of it still i just missed the game.

  • @Darklordthevil1
    @Darklordthevil1 Před 11 dny +2

    I quitted this game years ago and I'm never going back. I avoid PVP activities that involves money in it. I do spend money on mobile games but not to do with against other players. They changed the game to 2.0 so this will make them more money and now it came back to bite them. The game now has more one-star reviews than five.

  • @GamingTremor
    @GamingTremor Před 11 dny +1

    The decisions with wrecking the game via 2.0 updates were so that the krakens could whale harder and executives who never played the game made those decisions by looking at spreadsheets and projections and not understanding or caring about what players actually wanted.

  • @matthewvidrine2360
    @matthewvidrine2360 Před 10 dny +1

    I think the Devs are just into gaming in general, not fans of Tolkien lore. They have cookie cutter changed this game to be too much like other Asian owned games. Tolkien fans are brutally loyal. We insist on certain standards, but the Devs don't listen to us. They also don't seem to have any business sense. They are definitely out of touch with North American players. Lots of lost revenue because of that alone. They should absolutely change their policy on breakdowns of relics. We have to lose the equivalent of $1000 of our investment in gear. They should return all items and charge $20-$50 for it. Simple things as well, like Gandalf. In the books and movies, he rode Eagles and was friends with the King of Eagles in the Third Age. Yet, no Eagles or Beasts in his bloodlines or skill set. It goes on and on.

  • @andy6270
    @andy6270 Před 8 dny +1

    they have really pushed their own store this year, i think the apple/google data is misleading, almost everyone saves money avoiding apple or google. I like 2.0 having started in 2.0 but understand other people fristration from 1.0. Can't see this game going anywhere, updates are regular and server i have p;layed are all super active.

  • @privateershark8291
    @privateershark8291 Před 10 dny +1

    It's just too much, they want every single penny you have to be useful in the game, now you need to spend that what you did x3 more times because you got more commanders you need to use

  • @GamingTremor
    @GamingTremor Před 11 dny +2

    I haven't spent a dime since 2.0 released and have recently quit the game. Lesson learned to not spend money on any NetEase game every again, they can chew up your investment at any point in time and you have no recourse. I think I wont ever be spending much on a mobile game ever again after what they did to our commanders and gear.

    • @grantpodue39
      @grantpodue39 Před 11 dny +1

      agreed i got out before 2.0 smartest decision i ever made

    • @mentormindset853
      @mentormindset853 Před 11 dny +1

      @@GamingTremor tbh i spent so much in 1.0 and i dont regret it i had so many fun seasons and you cant look on games as a "investments" if they make new game 1.0 i would spend again even if i knew it would die again in few years

    • @meloncrusher3316
      @meloncrusher3316 Před dnem

      @@mentormindset853i only played the game for a brief 4 (or is it5 i forgot) season until 2.0 hits. Really had a great time. So many epic moments. One time we are playing Variags( I was with YUMMY), where we allied with mordor. The other clan in variags (POKE, a cerfiable hardcore guild) blitz to the ring and we crushed loth and rohan along the way. We are besieging one of the keeps near the ring (forgot the name) when Arnor and erebor crushed our ally gunda (which seems to attract fanatics that loves hopeless fight) and rushed down south. Its now a race against time, and we somehow recreated the battle for leipzig in the ensuing relief (and defeat of my guys), our faction fighting bitterly to maintain the siege lines, people fighting to the bitter end when they were uprooted. In the ensuing rout, we are nearly pushed back to the capital, but reorganized and stopped them by a river crossing. Long story short, WE GOT THE RING AND TRIUMPH. It was such an epic season, this game allows the potential for so many intrigues, betrayals, genuine want of revenge and glory. I have never seem another “proper” game yet alone a mobile game where this level of diplomacy, strategic coordination, matters so much despite not being built in as a “feature”. I dont regret spending money then, i really thought this game deserve the support. 2.0 ruins the game for do many of us and i am genuinely devestated. Its such a shame.

  • @brettschow1191
    @brettschow1191 Před 8 dny

    The line they used for 2.0 was "make every commander great again" I have screenshots of 1.0 reports using non meta commanders like shagrat and ugluk and doing very well, in 2.0 I cant justify running shagrat even with all gold gear because his skills are so terrible.

  • @HelloThere-cm6kf
    @HelloThere-cm6kf Před 11 dny +1

    One thing you missing there

    • @HelloThere-cm6kf
      @HelloThere-cm6kf Před 11 dny +1

      Like mobile gaming for netease it’s not even 10% of their revenue. Most they do with pc games. Also missing capital efficiency

  • @HALFaCANofBEANS.
    @HALFaCANofBEANS. Před 11 dny

    Bring back retaliate Balin.

  • @vladmax1282
    @vladmax1282 Před 8 dny

    they clean ratings and delete comments even when you don't write anything offensive. I renewed mine several times and it was still deleted.
    1 star with the words that their idea 2.0 is a failure that was visible even in the seasons of the trackers, it was the worst servers where people did not go except 1 time to try and after that no one returned there again. and they arranged 4 heroes instead of 2 and made violet worse, which = f2p kills, added more effects to clothes, which made it difficult to collect and most of the effects suck, they still play, in fact, no more than 5. p2v

  • @meglobob9217
    @meglobob9217 Před 5 dny +1

    I quit when they brought V 2.0, give it a good go but it was rubbish. Enjoyed it before V 2,0, shame they ruined it and shafted there players.

  • @dg5bhs
    @dg5bhs Před 6 dny +1

    Crazy... it's like everyone told them 2.0 was no a good idea and that they wouldn't come back unless they change it back. 2.0 was never for new players let's stop lying about that. They want money and whales and kraken won't stop spending 🤷‍♂️

  • @EJU-BU
    @EJU-BU Před 10 dny +1

    I dont know why people say 2.0 wreck game its still fun and a team playing game is there alot that could be worked on yes for sure but the game aint dead and is still fun and good

    • @EdMane
      @EdMane Před 10 dny +1

      Number$ tells a different story

    • @EJU-BU
      @EJU-BU Před 10 dny +1

      @@EdMane numbers don't tell everything of cause it going go down over time game over 3 year old already probably get spike new players when new lotr movies come out

    • @EdMane
      @EdMane Před 10 dny +1

      @EJU-BU I agree on that. There is a cycle of life with his spikes and downs. Maybe I'm just part of the statistic that left bc of that cycle. (An the business decisions involved). Btw love your videos man. Atme and you were my go-to source every time.

    • @allthingsmiddleearth
      @allthingsmiddleearth  Před 10 dny +1

      I could not disagree more, but to each their own :)
      I still play it, so obviously I don't think it's the worst thing in the world, but they have made so many changes that have hurt the game. That's factually speaking from the numbers, not opinion.

    • @dg5bhs
      @dg5bhs Před 6 dny +2

      It definitely wrecked the game. New players can't compete unless they spend a crap ton, unless you have high respect meta commanders you won't win, majority of commanders are now useless, healing doesn't work, and any exchange is not worth it. You can't say this game isn't wrecked to what it was unless you're completely blind.

  • @phill1304
    @phill1304 Před 2 dny +1

    The game is almost dead for so many reasons. Its so sad, so much potential yet they zig every time the players say zag. Look at Moanorlords devs, they literally run polls asking what the players want and focus on it. Its so simple yet they think they know what the players want more than the players. I wish they would sell the game to supercell. The spending needs a much lower ceiling each season and then people will try keep up. The current spending limit means players spend a bit, get almost nothing then get dominated by a couple krakens and never return. Such a stupid short term approach to a game.

  • @inspectorbarrneby
    @inspectorbarrneby Před 10 dny +1

    I hope the game dies off. As a casual who only bought season pass, they brought the 2.0 when i had nearly maxed out my WK and basically destroyed all my progress. Now it is either spend more or quit. Not to mention that there is a huge imbalance between good and evil

  • @EJU-BU
    @EJU-BU Před 10 dny

    Still making plenty still 100s thousands people playing and buying gems and season passes