Will a Wilderness Experience PREPARE us for Mighty Miracles?
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- Randy Brown discusses the connection between temples and our end-time wilderness Exodus to Zion. Temple covenants will provide the protection for deeper Sanctification in our wilderness journey.
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From a very early age like 4 to 5 my maternal grandmother Luella had one of those large black bibles, with the full pages of the biblical prophets and peoples etc., and she told me the stories of the bible using the photos at my child level, and added more with each year I became. We lived in lumber camps in eastern Oregon way out in the Blue Mountains out of Pendleton, Oregon. We had not electricity, running water, tall kerosene chimney lamps, with the wick that rolled up higher as it burned down, a wood cook stove in a small cabin that grandpa built, homemade wooden bed frames, and medium sized river rocks warmend in the stove warming oven, then wrapped in old clean cloth rags, and laid at the end of the bed, so our feet would reach them to keep us warm durning the long winter nights...SMILES, it was the best childhood, and I truly have longed for those simple days again.......I also look forward to the basic/simple times ahead. I am now 80 years old.......and have prepared every needful thing for what is ahead.....Prayers for us all......and our beloved prophet, and apostles and his counselors. I have always felt that I would get to live at least close to the second coming of CHRIST, it is up to him!
What a great life ❤️❤️
We will be humbled. Major butt kicking coming to force us to be humble so that the Lord may have a people worthy of being Zion.
That's absolutely right 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@spirtualsurvival I've always felt this was going to be the case for us all...enough of the comforts of babylon!
@@charlesmiller1966 I feel like I'm so done with the things of this world. I love being in the temple and spending time with the Lord.
When I thought about having an exodus & wilderness experience - I thought about our pandemic experience. It was like an exodus to the wilderness when we couldn't go to church anymore. Who was faithful each Sunday when it was up to them to hold services? That was the test.
When we came back - it was still like a wilderness - only the faithful returned, and it was a very empty chapel. We had been sifted. We are still on a journey, still being tested with a scarcity of people to fill all the callings. But we have also been blessed and upheld and assisted.
I think that the pandemic was a sorting and a training, maybe it was a practice wilderness journey.
I think that's a good analogy except that we will be dealing with things 20 times worse than COVID.
I do believe we are in for a wilderness experience. Buckle up!
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Thanks Randy
The wilderness journey makes sense to me. Especially when we are called to flee Babylon and partake not of her sins. It’s a tender mercy, if you ask me.
If you apply the TYPE in the Book of Mormon of the destruction that happened, and add to it the TYPE of an antichrist that wants to commit genocide on the world, the concept of being called out of the destruction to places of Divine protection is the most merciful thing you can imagine. That is the level of loving kindness the Lord has for His covenant bride (Israel)
I’d really like ready to do a part 2 on this video. Taking in the consideration of elder Uchdorfs talk. A summer with great aunt rose. I think there are deep connections there that should be considered.
I so appreciate all of your comments, it is wonderful to read and have even the tiniest of new thougohts that bring us home to something we have known and heard but hearing those things again by someone else saying it is so awesome......that light keeps flickering, I was 32 when I joined the LDS FAITH, after seeking a church with a living Prophet and 12 Apostles.....I was 31 when I heard that told to me by a self inflicted Jack Mormon....his name for himself not mine...as he gave me the greatest gift I could have ever found.....he gave me my entire family and for generations and my bloodlines to Cherokee and Shawnee, and the priesthood.....etc.Thank you for all the comments.......
Thank you for watching and sharing your experiences. I'm glad we've connected here!❤️❤️
If we come to Him and fully trust in Him we will have His tender mercies that enable us to overcome all the Satanic calamities of this latter day final dispensation. I am personally experiencing this.
Awesome. Thanks 🙏
Me too! Wave after wave of adversity. The thing that helps me the most is going to the temple as often as possible. I can almost see the shield of faith & protection around me.
The adversity worsens if I can't go as often. I'm trying to go weekly, which is a sacrifice.
If we focus on the Saviour and all things that are possible with Him and not what we cannot do without Him, it will be well with us.
I agree, the wilderness experience will be necessary for a few reasons. One, to divide the sheepfold from those who are willing to give up everything to follow Our Master and those who are not. Second, to purge those of us who are willing to follow Our Master from all vestiges of Babylon. Third, to tutor us to learn how to truly rely on the Lord b/c we will have nothing and need His constant sustaining influence. After a while, those of us who suffered through that wilderness journey will be established in the New Jerusalem and protected from the rest of the upheavals that come until the Lord finally judges the nations. There will be a few more groups that come to Zion as the Lord continues to call the dispersed of Israel and those Saints who are ready to repent even though they were not ready on the first call. However, I believe those who endure the wilderness journey will be among the most blessed in the last days.
Great summation! I agree 💯
I’ve thought, studied and prayed about these things for many years and completely agree with everything you’ve said. Thank you for so thoughtfully and beautifully articulating these things.
You're welcome! The future is glorious! The promises to Covenant Israel and those of Ephraim who will minister to them, are marvelous and wonderful!
I absolutely believe in a wilderness experience, a call out so to speak. I believe the righteous will be given an invitation. I believe accepting the invitation will be a test, the first of many when it comes to leaving things behind. I believe we will be invited to go before things are too bad. It will be a sifting. I am constantly reminded of Zion's Camp. They were unable to redeem Zion due to murmuring. I believe that will be another test once we are in these wilderness places. I have a tent..."to your tents, O Israel!"
My beliefs exactly 💯
Thank you Randy. I appreciate your podcasts. I could relate to your comment," could there be a spiritual "fleeing" before a physical fleeing." I thought it describes well the motivation I've had to attend the Temple weekly &/or more often. Thus, Vaughn J. Featherstone's comment,"Those who are spared and prepared will be a Temple loving people." was comforting/confirming. I find the whole preparedness thing can often produce more fear than real preparedness. I do what I can with food & water storage, a generator etc. but I believe the Prophet has confirmed the most important preparedness is to be spiritually prepared. The Vaughn Featherstone quote really felt right-on to me. I am so grateful for the Temple!
Thank you so much! I feel like you understood exactly what I was trying to convey in this podcast! The temple is exactly where we need to be right now!
Jacob 3:4..the Lord God will lead away the righteous out from amoung you.
Several other scriptures tell this....
Yes a wilderness is a place of sanctification...translation..a place to give it all up....well said
Thank you LaRue! That is a good scripture I should have included. I'm still learning from those who listen. I'm glad you're onboard with me on this journey. ❤️❤️❤️
I think you’re on the right track. I believe the Lord will try our faith by asking the faithful to leave our wicked society, the comfort of our homes and follow our prophet. I would rather be in a tent following the Lord’s people than remain in my own bed. Before the great cleansing will come a voluntary call will be offered in which the wise virgins will harken. I believe that people of other faiths will gather with the few Saints that will come together.
YES!! The wise virgins will harken. I love that!🔥🔥🔥
I would need a good mattress to sleep on for my back if I were in a tent . I have 2 foam pads . I have a purple queen mattress.
@@user-dj2bk4gg3x You should bring those
@@user-dj2bk4gg3x The fleeing will be for survival. Remember there will be miracles.
I can leave all behind except my family history, pictures, etc. how to keep those safe is my worry or maybe it doesn't matter.
Any time we have a path to take where we can only see the next step, and we must rely on Heavenly Father’s care and guidance, we are going through a wilderness experience. Each of us will have our own, and as a people, we may also have literal and figurative wilderness experiences. All of this will be to refine us and prepare us to be in the presence of God.
Amen! 🔥🔥🔥
Amen!
No one knows how hard it will be till you go through it
So true. We will be tested to the core, but miracles will accompany it. We live in the days Nephi saw in vision; the days Isaiah wrote about. We will know the LORD at the highest levels!
"Fleeing" can have many meanings. My personal feelings are that we all have had our own experiences of fleeing. I fled out of the world many years ago. That was both a physical and a spiritual fleeing. I believe fleeing is not an event, but a series of events throughout our individual lives. It is just going ramp up in coming days. If we have not been gaining strength through temples and the covenant path, it will eventually become too late. Another world war of which we are getting close will be a serious reason to have become spiritually prepared. Surviving that will take all the faith and trust in the Lord we can possible attain.
I believe there will be some sort of announcement in the temple that is the cause for “the time is coming when those members who keep their covenants WILL BE SEPERATED from those who don’t.” He didn’t say they will seperate he said they will be separated.
It's part of the sanctification process. We see this in the Pioneer journey as well. Each experience requires a separation from babylon, giving up of the natural man, which, in essence, is more freely giving up our free will and desires to come to him.
Great point! I forgot to mention the pioneer Exodus. It is absolutely a pattern! The Lord sanctifies us in the wilderness! He has to strip us of our conveniences and idols. He will teach us complete reliance on the God of Israel.
I think the Prophet is such a great example. He has not had an easy life, and is an example of being prepared for what the Lord asks of us.
I think most definitely the spiritual call is out! Prepare and dont stop preparing.
"I call upon you, my dear brothers and sisters, to become this righteous people."
President Nelson
Another great episode
I appreciate your comments so much. Thanks 🙏🔥🔥🔥
It's weird that you have done an episode on this topic. I often thought I was alone or what others may think as crazy for believing in this; but for years...I'd say about the last 10 years or so (even when I was inactive from church) I've had a strong feeling/impression that there will be a time when I'll need to go OR be asked to up and leave my home. Leave everything behind and just take what I need in order to live off of. I have gotten the strong impression that it will be a ongoing journey but not sure where it will lead but definitely within a group of people who are trying to stay safe from the world. I had no idea the reason whether it's economic collapse, religious persecution or whatever else but I know its tied into events prior to the Lord's coming.
For years now it's become so natural for me to live so simply and with hardly any possessions. It's actually more peaceful and less stressful for me. I became active in the church again two years ago (but not because of this feeling/impression) and since then, the Lord has blessed me so much. I was prompted right away to work on going through the temple for the first time in my life (I had gone to do baptisms in my youth but that was the extent). Within a few months after reactivation, my Bishop interviewed me and said I was ready and I received my recommend. I went through the temple on June 1, 2023 and received my endowment and it was one of the best days of my life.
I then was called this past January (2024) to work as an ordinance worker in the temple and I accepted. Prior to that I had wondered for a while what it would be like to be a worker and then I was called. (One of my prayers answered). It's been 6 months now and It's been a wonderful experience to go every week and help those go through, as well as do work for others beyond the veil. I have gained so much more knowledge and strength by going to the temple and I look forward to receiving more.
I know he has a plan for each and every one of us and I just know I'll be either called OR will volunteer when the Lord calls us out into the 'wilderness'...both physical and spiritual. I worry about my children and where they'll be and what they'll choose. All I can do is try to teach them and be an example, but they're grown and will make their own decisions. I just always pray for them as well as everyone around me that they will be strong and cling to the Lord and his gospel.
Wow. I'm glad you shared that. I'm glad you're working at the temple. The Lord is working in your life 🔥🔥🔥
@@spirtualsurvival I feel he his. Also, thank you for your channel and all that you bring forth...it's been enlightening and uplifting to hear. :)
The Lord has a perfect plan for everyone of us. Wilderness or not, we just follow Him and His plan. Prayer and listening, Scriptures.
He had a plan to sanctify all who will submit
I look very forward to each of your sincere and well-thought out videos. You are the only youtuber that I truly watch for your videos. Thank you. I feel like I live in the middle of nowhere and so grateful for kindred spirits.
Thank you for that wonderful compliment. I'm so glad we have connected here!❤️❤️❤️
I think the wilderness journey will humble us sufficiently to prepare us to become a zion people and prepare us to come to the Savior.
Amen
Absolutely a wilderness experience is mandatory in the process of sanctification. Consider how we invite our youth on a re-creation of the Trek. It is hard and hot and takes them out of their daily comforts and routines. Many choose to not participate because it is hard. The same occurs when we travel. Travel has been described as producing an alchemical process. We are taken into dissolution, challenged to learn and do differently, and then we are put back together better than we were before. That is the process of ascension/progression. It is happening right now and I am ready to flee when the Holy Ghost tells me it is time to go.
Well said! I agree 💯 ❤️🔥
Elder holland years ago , said history the lords people had to flee, but now with the strength we don’t flee anymore we stay were we are and build it up! Need to find that talk 😊, now of course the future directions can change as directed by prophet
Watch my episode with Matt Jeppson on places of refuge. He talks about 3 stages. Elder Holland was talking about stage 2. The Lord himself said if we don't want to be at war with our neighbor we will have to flee
I thought that the call to Zion was when the Saints were called to come to Utah, and that now we are to stay in our own places and be close to the temple nearest to where we live. Haven’t some of the GAs said as much in General Conference? But I must say that I have received promptings from the Holy Ghost and dreams at night that the Lord will lead different groups of righteous people into the wilderness and protect them. He will guide them to where there’s water and the wicked won’t be able to find them. I’ve been told that many of them will be righteous people from all religions, not just LDS who will listen and obey. So this has me wondering if I have misunderstood something or someone. I’m willing to go through whatever the Lord will send me. 😊
@@maryannstout7600 I think the important thing to ponder is, if you were asked to give up everything and leave, would you be willing to do it!
@@spirtualsurvival I've given it a lot of thought, and I'm not sure how many other ways, ..."live so that when the call comes, you can walk away easily.”" can be interpreted. And President Eyring feels that's important enough that he has told that story repeatedly. Also, in the story, he WAS called to physically get up and move.
@@SegoLily I had the same experience with those 2 talks by President Eyring.
If we understand the degree of destruction that is coming we will plead to be led away from destruction to places of protection, refuge and Sanctification.
Thank you Randy for your depth of study and reflection. And thanks for taking the time to share it. I have already experienced my wilderness journey and received mighty miracles because of my faith. I think that as we follow our own revelations we will be where the Lord needs us.
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Loved this video, thank you Randy!
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I felt the Spirit so strong as you testified and shared these scriptures. Thank you for sharing your lens and bringing these questions up. Helping us to reflect where we are at in our relationship with our Savior.
That means so much. Thanks for sharing your feelings 🙏 ❤️🔥
Yes! Temple covenants (kept with faithfulness) will be the key to rise the departed.
How many times do you hear that after a loved one dies, their family says “I go to the temple to feel them close”
Hmmm I sure would want to have my recommendation !
I agree 💯
D&C 63:65 talks about "an entire separation of the righteous and the wicked". Each time the wicked are destroyed, the righteous are called to leave first. We see this with Lot, Lehi, the brother of Jared, and many other examples. Before the Lord comes to destroy the wicked, will we be asked to separate ourselves from the wicked and asked to leave to places of refuge? In D&C 52:14 it says "And again, I will give unto you a pattern in all things, that ye may not be deceived..." This seems to be the Lord's pattern. I will not be suprised if we are called to leave into the "wilderness" by the prophet.
YES! This is a perfect example of what I was trying to articulate. Thank you so much for sharing this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This reminds me of what President Nelson said in his 2020 Liahona article, "The Future of the Church: Preparing the World for the Savior’s Second Coming".
He said, "The time is coming when those who do not obey the Lord will be separated from those who do (see Doctrine and Covenants 86:1-7). Our safest insurance is to continue to be worthy of admission to His holy house."
He doesn't specifically SAY it's a physical separation, but I think it's heavily implied.
@@SegoLily I think Isaiah seems to be saying it and that is probably why Isaiah's vision is encrypted. So that only those with eyes to see will understand what's coming
Yes, He separates the wheat from the tares and the tares are burned. The wheat is gathered to safety.
I am not sure, any more, what a wilderness journey is. I think it might not be what we expect.
I believe that we will be required to “flee” spiritually speaking. As for physically, some may need to flee. Others may be in the refuges and must be prepared the provide help and shelter.
I don’t believe the entire church will literally pick up and trek across wherever to wherever. My guess is it will be a calling for some to move physically. It will no doubt be necessary for some to relocate physically, depending on where they find themselves. But I no longer envision a grand expedition of millions, as I used to.
I am learning that nothing ever plays out as we have envisioned it in our minds. We must be open minded, humble, repentant, and be prepared to recognize what comes even though it isn’t as we expected. Humility, striving to purify our hearts of pride, and trust in the Lord are what will protect us.
The following is from The Come follow me Manuel January 14-30, 2022 “Because Moses 7 is a record of how God’s followers successfully built Zion, it can instruct and inspire us today as we strive to do the same. Consider using a table like this one to record what you learn about Zion from Moses 7:16-21, 27, 53, 62-69.”
Also From Come follow me January 14-30
2022 we are told the following:
The phrases “taken up” (Moses 7:21, 23), “lifted up” (Moses 7:24), “caught up” (Moses 7:27), and “fled” (Moses 7:69) refer to Zion and the people of Enoch being translated and taken to heaven. Is also in the same chapter of Come follow me. So deafly Zion definitely can mean and I believe to be translated.
Yes, the term " Wings of an Eagle" also refer to translation.
I think it might be a spiritual wilderness experience
I think it’s essential now to make our homes through temple covenants etc of bringing that strength and feeling we enjoy there back to the home too! Prophets have named home a holy place as well, and we know how that can be from the church experience we were told to have in the home not too long ago and it continues
Homes need to be sacred places of refuge as well ❤️
Perhaps some individuals can be perfected and ready for the Savior without a wilderness experience, but I doubt that the church could be ready for him without a wilderness experience. This happened to the early saints and I think our wilderness journey will be much more intense.
Thank You Randy.❤
Thanks for your support Joe!❤️🔥
It's going to be epic!
It's going to make the Exodus pale in comparison! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The Exodus in Moses's day will pale in comparison
I do believe what you are saying, although, I believe it's a few years away. Not decades but, a few. Our society is being crushed intentionally. We'll see a lot of civil unrest in the next year. It will come once that starts to become so dangerous that we won't be safe in our own neighborhood
I agree
My impression is that we don’t have to literally go into a wilderness area to experience à wilderness experience.
As you said -refinement can come through the wilderness affliction .
Yes, there are both. There are wildernesses of affliction in our regular lives and there will be an end-time Exodus as well
I have to be honest I think we are In for a wilderness experience. I believe the time will come when we have to collect together as a people. Nothing is impossible to the Lord, but when are together as a people, a Zion people looking after, and caring for each other. Also the Lord will not want us to be subject too or our children to witness the coming of the degradation of society that will be upon us directly prior to the final coming of the Lord.
@@2u43 That is how I feel. I think too many people underestimate how horrific things will be. If we are to survive to be in the Lord's presence we'll have no ther choice.
❤We see armies going after Christians in other nations if we look closely. I've wondered if that would come here when the antichrist is in power. The wicked have always tried to hurt the righteous. If nuclear fallout ever covered our land we will have to go high in the mountains in order to live through months of exposure. Even in our own neighborhoods there could be extreme violence if stores closed, if the power shut off long term, of a natural disaster occured. Gangs could really cause havoc. This was seen during Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico. It became a very dangerous place as water and food was being stolen from those who had waited hours in line. I do believe many will flee to places they think will be the safest. Families might gather together for safety. May the Lord prepare each of us as the tribulation draws nearer with wisdom and added blessings of spiritual understanding.
@@spirtualsurvival I did mean to thank you Randy. I’m always thrilled when you pop up on my CZcams home page. I love your insights and thoughtfulness. You more often than not take me down roads I haven’t travelled before and am always better for the journey.
I can understand people not waiting to believe in a wilderness experience. Who wants to leave their homes and comforts and venture, if you will out into the unknowns, and I feel the same, but what I want and what we might have to do can be two different things. The Lord can both protect His people and punish the wicked if the saints are collected together as a group. Plus I would not want my grandchildren (I’m in my seventies) to to be exposed or witness many things that will happen in the last days.
Thanks again Randy for all you do.
I almost always listen to your videos 2 or 3 x.. as I work though the many concepts that you bring up. I have many thoughts about your videos and many times it take me through the week, as I ponder your words. I deeply appreciate your pondering and/or thoughts. I am many times wondered about a wilderness experience. I do think that wilderness experiences come in many ways, and not just one way. As Lehi and family had a wilderness experience.. so did Jesus, for 40 days. What I mean here, is that not all wilderness experiences take us away from home to a new home.. however all wilderness experiences take us to a new kind of home,.. a new way of being. Just my 2 cents. God bless you as you continue with this work.
Thank you for this! I had a powerful wilderness experience that lasted about 15 years. During this time just about everything in my life fell apart. I experienced paradoxical abrahamic trials. It happened when the Lord prompted me to move my family to a new city. At the time I believed that everything would fall into place. But it was exactly the opposite. I am now so grateful for the wilderness experience and how I've come to know the Lord through it. But I also know that calamities are coming upon this country and the world. There will be places of protection prepared for those who will follow the Lord's direction. It will be a deeply sanctifying experience that we will look back on and praise God because it prepared us for the ultimate land of promise, the presence of Our Savior Jesus Christ in Zion.
I totally agree with you Randy. I did not mean to imply otherwise. Though I can see it looked that way. I have experienced a series of dreams to just that effect many years ago. The time is surely coming. And I believe soon.
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Who is to say that our "wilderness" is not the trials and tribulations happening now and that which is to come?
I definitely believe it is both. Thanks for this insight 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Have you read Spiritual Progression in the Last Days by Blaine Yorgason? He talks a lot about why we need a wilderness experience.
Yes, it is very good
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I think we are there! Scorched earth…everyone tearing out their grass and putting in rocks?!! And I feel like there is less hope in the world. I also spend way more time in the temple and feel peace there more than ever. I do feel like there is a polarization even happening in The Church. People don’t say it though. Thank you for this video.
I appreciate your thoughts. I agree with you 💯
Are we not already experiencing a wilderness experience? Are we not already fleeing from Babylon? Look at the separation that is already happening especially within the church. Also the separation between those who believe in Christ and those who don’t. I agree that only the temple and our covenants will strengthen us as we continue in this wilderness and other difficult circumstances we will have to endure.
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A thought that has motivated me to increase my temple attendance is likening the temple to Noah’s ark. Many scholars have identified such parallels and it’s an interesting topic of study. I believe President Nelson is a modern day Noah of sorts - pleading with us to get in the ark, to be saved spiritually, before it is too late. “Time is running out”!
That's awesome! Thanks 🙏
I fully expect to go out to the Wilderness and live fir a time. Eventually I fully expect to make our way to Adam Ondi-Ahman or Jackson county. I know I won't be fully prepared for that but I am doing my best to prepare myself and family for that time that I feel is near in our future.
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I certainly agree we will most likely be called into the wilderness and leave our possessions behind. But I don’t think it will be in secret, we shall see, I think it will be an open choice, just like our free agency in every other aspect. It may add to our persecution.
As you are reading all these Isaiah scriptures all I can think about is temple, temple, temple. The House of the Lord is the answer. Maybe we should all increase our temple attendance by a lot. As much as we possibly can. And pray that more people can go to the temples. You know there are so many announced and under construction. I think our wilderness experience will be increased attendance in the temples. Maybe I’m way off. That’s what I feel.
I think you're right on!
Thank you. ❤️❤️❤️😊💯😅😇
I’d enjoy hearing how a pillar in the building of a church would fit in with all of this?
You lost me. Not sure what your asking 🤔
Yes, our prophets have been trying to get us to exit Spiritual Babylon forever, and President Nelson is no different. Will we have a physical exodus to New Jerusalem? Brigham Young at his time said some will. However, there is a revelation given by Joseph Smith and retold by Wilford Woodruff that Christ will come to the wasatch front, then we will go back. Does that mean everyone will go back and have a physical exodus? I don't know, but we have modern prophets to receive such revelation.
Thank you for this. This is awesome 💯🔥🔥🔥
Can you share the link you quoted from Vaughn J Featherstone-Loved that.
Vaughn J Featherstone - address at the Manti Temple, April 1987
@@spirtualsurvival I can’t find it….
@@sfisch someone texted it to me this week so I hope that the reference is correct
7:51 Those who wear the garments who are living righteously won't be destroyed?
They will have miraculous protection! It's his Covenant promise to us
May i ask a question, when you say not all will be spared, are you talking about the fauthful people as well or the unrighteous?
Yes, the Lord has to save a righteous people, who are prepared to receive him at his second coming. They are protected under Covenant from God. However, there are some who will choose to give their lives as martyrs.
I heard President Holland, when asked about it, say that there will be no general call-out. Not trying to be contentious. Just know what I heard.
I don't know about a general call out but the work of the 144,000 is to lead people out of destruction and protect them with the Fulness of Priesthood
@@spirtualsurvival wouldn't they have become translated beings just like the three Nephites, etc?
@@donnatodd9731 Yes, they are translated beings.
There are so many prophets and apostles as well as scriptures that refer to a CALL OUT. doctrinalessays.blogspot.com/2015/09/dear-church-members.html
Read this article
@@spirtualsurvival many years ago (about 45 or so) I received advice from my mil that has stayed with me. She told me to follow the prophet. We have the promise that he will never be allowed to lead us astray. It reminds me of when Alma was first visited by the angel and was told to stop persecuting the Christians even if he, himself would be destroyed. The Lord would definitely step in. But we have no promise with anyone else. We are also taught that yes, we are all eligible for revelation, but only for ourselves and those over which we have stewardship. Julie Rowe does not have stewardship over me. What she has experienced might be valid for her. But it is not for the entire church. I have had some pretty rock solid experiences myself. But they are for me. Not for anyone else. I appreciate what you are doing here. And I believe it has value. But I choose to stick with the prophets as far as revelation given to the Church.
I am thinking I want to drive to Missouri, not walk. So maybe a wilderness experience doesn’t have to be walking all the way there? What are your thoughts on Adam omdi ahman? I’m thinking that will occur before we are gathered to the new Jerusalem. Do you feel being there will be a calling, or those who desire will find themselves there?
The wilderness journey will be whatever the Lord wants it to be to test us to our core. In my humble opinion he will remove all the comforts that we are used to,
I have never considered an actual exodus to another place or wandering, with respect to going to Jackson county that will be a calling and not the church as a whole.
That being said it very well could be a literal wilderness of affliction or an exodus, I know from experience that it doesn’t need to be.
What's coming is something we have never experienced before!
I apologize if this is a dumb question but Is it possible to be overcome by the adversary EVEN IF we are keeping all our covenants?
Yes it is impossible to overcome the adversary by our own merits. It can only be done by the merits of Jesus Christ!
I think if you are truly keeping your covenants, you can not be overcome; however, it can feel as you are. God keeps His promises!
@@donnatodd9731 Yes God keeps His promises. He keeps His part of the covenant. That includes the promise of covenantal protection. He will empower us to overcome!
How do we form an alliance? I am a single man without kids and anytime I bring up stuff like this in church people have no idea what I’m talking about.
I think we need to trust that the Lord has got it under control and that he will inspire us to act when it is time to
And to prepare what needs to be prepared ahead of time. Being in tune with the spirit is paramount.
Are lds men not to be involved in the coming conflicts war to be specific?
It seems like they will be
See church Ensign April 1979
Missouri Myths
By Graham W. Doxey