Bob Welch | The Unsung Hero of Fleetwood Mac
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- Bob Welch was an American singer-songwriter best known for his contributions to the rock band Fleetwood Mac and his solo career in the late 70s. Though forgotten by most these days, Welch made an undeniable impact on Rock Music and without him, Fleetwood Mac would have never survived long enough to become the stuff of Rumours.
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He should have been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 1998 with others members of FM. Very underrated artist.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention I made a mistake.
Yeah, his omission in that was f'ed up, imo.......
The RRHOF is notorious for snubbing well deserved artists. They are all political now. They can go s##t in their hat.
shameful that he was excluded!
Amen
The Bob Welch years were the best. The Bob Welch iterations were the best by far!!!
Do not come into a video that is a tribute to Bob and disrespect him.
To my ears, the greatest song that Fleetwood Mac ever had, was hypnotized.....
What I came to say; as much as I love what follows, nothing tops Hypnotized.
agree
And he was an excellent guitar player
Bob basically carried the Mac for 4 years. Their work from Future Games to Heroes wouldn’t be anywhere near as memorable or interesting if it weren’t for his songs. God rest his soul
This is a worthwhile point to make: Fleetwood Mac is a strange band in that the two nameholders - the rhythm section, Mick Fleetwood (drums) and John MacVie (bass) - were in control of the name and the finances but were never particularly responsible for the essential sound of the band at any time. It was always certain musicians that came through the band that provided its character and its signature songs in any given era. Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, then Bob Welch, the Christine MacVie (nee Perfect) came in before Welch decided to leave and amicably introduced Nicks and Buckingham to the band. THEN we saw the classic lineup that gave us albums all the way from the self-titled 'Fleetwood Mac' (featuring Nicks' megaclassic 'Rhiannon' and Christine MacVie's anthem 'Don't Stop') to the unstoppable 'Rumors' ('Dreams', 'Go Your Own Way', well, basically the whole album was one long string of hits) all the way to 1987's 'Tango in the Night' with hits like Christine MacVie's 'Little Lies'. Mick F. and John M. certainly did their heavy lifting as the legendary rhythm section but you can never reduce any of those other players throughout those years to mere sidemen. It was almost as if that band had a modular character in terms of its signature sound. Take this player out, put these players in, and it's a whole new band, which is what happened in 1975.
I don't have an issue with your second sentence, but CARRIED the Mac for 4 years? That means you're including 71 and 72. No way.
@@JH-rk9gd The point being that Bob came up with 4 songs for the Mac from 71-72. Danny Kirwan had 9 and led FM out of the Blues with a new sound.
To me, Hypnotized was his outstanding masterpiece. I bought the Mystery To Me album when it was first released and it still holds pride of place in my collection.
Incredible song, I agree. His best material is probably on that album but I love all his work.
One of my favorite songs ever.
Mystery To Me was my introduction to Fleetwood Mac, (along with Oh, Well from the Green years on a Reprise compilation record). The Bob Welch version of the band quickly became my favorite. His 2 Paris albums are also quite good. 50 years later, Fleetwood Mac is still 3 of my favorite bands, with the Welch years being the best for me.
Hypnotized was always Bob's favorite of his Fleetwood Mac songs.
He said so on several occasions.
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Bob was my Godfather, thank you for this video. He was a fantastic mentor and real friend. He did remote viewing at the Monroe Institute, and turned me on to Terence McKenna and William Cooper of all people in the 90's.
Of course! I’ve been a huge fan for years and I’ve wanted to do this video for a while. I’m happy it’s starting to get more attention.
I emailed Bob Welch after the Hall of Fame snub and told him he had fans all.over the world who thoight he deserved to be honoured. He had the courtesy to write back and thank me. Great man and fantastoc musician and songwriter. Nightwatch is truly beautiful.
Having graduated high school in 1973 I still think some of the best music Fleetwood Mac made was with Bob Welch...
Completely agree, I only listen to FM pre Buckingham Nicks
You got that right brother! Bob should be in the RR Hall of Fame. Who knows, Fleetwood Mac might have just faded into obscurity without Bob's artistic creative, and quite unique music.
Bob and Christine brought a ‘pop’ factor to the band that paved the way for their 70s shoot to the top.
Bob was THE BEST and most diverse songwriter FM ever had, hands down
Him and Christine McVie (and Danny for the short time they had him) made magic together.
I'm a die hard Peter G. fan but def need to check out some Bob time
I love Bob, since the early years. I'm 70 now and will be a memory just like him. But his Star shines so bright. What makes a song really good? Melody, Bob had melody at his finger tips, in his blood. He was Fleetwood Mac.
Extremely over the top information. Welch was fantastic.
Bob's band Paris was really good too. Apparently he had a very difficult life and death towards the end. He did not deserve that. What a huge talent.
Bob had a good life until he got sick n couldn't deal w what the future would be like. Reason I said he had a good life, was that he had a close family even tho it was tied to Hollyweird. His Dad was a movie producer n his mother was in the biz also but I can't remember how. Saw Bob walking up and jamming at local bars in Nashville. Life was good for him at that time
Paris was fantastic. Bob showed he could really rock on those two albums, and showed off some great guitar playing. But I think people who knew of him from Fleetwood Mac couldn’t relate to Welch playing such hard rock-which was a far cry from his Mac work. Fans of hard rock likely didn’t pay attention to Paris for the same reason in reverse. Unfortunate when artists are stuck in a box like that. Unsurprisingly, Welch followed up Paris with a far softer sound-which was commercially successful but I liked his Paris albums far better.
The Welch years with Fleetwood Mac are the best. First FM song I heard was "Morning Rain".. 'Future Games' was one of the first few albums I got, and always played both sides beginning to end. There was a 'shift' between 'Bare Trees' and 'Penguin'... maybe because Danny was gone. 'Heroes' (IMO) was the last good FM album. When Bob died, I had to put on "Coming Home" - don't know who wrote the lyrics, but they hit me after Christine passed a couple days ago.. like a message from beyond for Danny, Bob, and Christine (there's a great live version on youtube).
Bob's voice and guitar work on this song are ethereal.. never been able to figure out/find the intro lyrics.. seems to end w/"any possible reason to destroy you".. beautiful and haunting song.
*Coming Home*
We are the hungry ones
On a campground that's been and gone
Where are all the faces I knew?
All the heroes in the bright burning truth
Makes you feel real, real good in your bones
When the hunger stops, and the truth is known
My life, my light is coming home
Yeah, coming home
Sad ending for a great artist. RIP.
I saw him with
Fleetwood Mac
Spirit
West, Bruce, & Laing
Phila. Spectrum
November 1972
Great player, singer, and songwriter. His stuff was always "cool and hip." Future Games, Hypnotized, Ebony Eyes, Solitaire, Bright Fire, and Angel are always in the regular playlist.
The mark of a great artist is the timelessness of their music. RIP Bob and keep jamming in the great beyond. 🎸🤟
You forgot Sentimental Lady from Bare Trees
Don't forget Silverheels.
And Precious 💕
Bob was great very cool guy
Bob Welch is my favorite member of Fleetwood Mac.
Brilliant musician. And IMHO opinion the savior of Fleetwood Mac for years. If you listen...this is clear to hear.
What a great version of this band ... loved this time.
The rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame has shown their true colors! There’s absolutely no reason they should’ve excluded him and he had a solo career. He was the glue that held Fleetwood Mac together before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham came on board!! Once again that organization has become a sham! So many artists Have been snubbed over the years it’s mine boggling. It’s a museum of music and future generations deserve to know who he was including that he wrote songs for Fleetwood Mac!
You didn’t mention the band Paris, he formed after leaving Fleetwood Mac. It was with ex-Jethro Tull bassist, Glenn Cornick. They recorded two excellent albums in 1976.
that first Paris album was awesome!
I'm obsessed . Thank you for making this!! It seems most people don't know about Bob 🤦🖕
99.9% of America thinks Fleetwood Mac was always Buckingham/Nicks 🥴
The Bob Welch era is low key my favorite. Bare Trees, Future Games, Mystery to Me, what a run of albums.
It is indeed sad that Bob got overshadowed but to be fair to him, all of a sudden there were THREE absolutely POWERHOUSE songwriters in that band at once, two of them just coming onto the scene with fresh ideas and hungry, and then that was all she wrote...
Yes I agree. I went down the Bob Welch rabbit hole and now I want to share his music w everyone that doesn’t know it.
Fleetwood Mac with him was when I first became a fan of the band
Agreed. Bob Welch wrote some stellar songs, plus adding that jazzy Wes Montgomery sound on Hypnotized. Bad snub by the R'R Hall of Fame people. Sad that he, Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, & Danny Kirwan are eclipsed in memory by the Buckingham/Nicks era.
They’re not overshadowed. I don’t have any problem living the band in all its iterations and incarnations. Just great music to enjoy.
Always enjoyed his music... fantastic talent and may he rock on in 🎉
What's important is the joy that music brings to listeners. The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame has nothing to do with that!
I bought one of Mr. Welch's solo albums and saw him in concert once as an opening act. I was quite impressed. Sad to hear that he couldn't bear to live any longer. That's show biz.
Love you brother Bob. Miss you and your music. ❤
this totally confirms what i thought way back before FM hit the big time.
What a selfless, class act of a person he was.
Hall of Fame snub was 1998. but thanks for making this about my dear friend.
Of course! My apologies for the mistake and I hope you are well. You’re very lucky to have been his friend.
Right...
Always loved Bob Welch's music with Hypnotized and Sentimental Lady my favourites. It is sad that Bob isn't included with the rest of Fleetwood Mac in the Hall Of Fame.
Totally agree, secret weapon
Saw the band live with a few different line-ups. I felt the best shows were those that included Bob Welch.
He was so much better than what came after, but the band wanted to go into that pop sound, there was/is WAY more money in it. He was the bridge that got them there.
I don't agree that he was better, just different. there's room for everyone in Fleetwood Mac, that's why I love the band so much. Their catalogue is pretty diverse compared to other classic rock bands.
Awesome musician. Totally underrated.
I'm a big Bob Welch fan loved his style and was shocked to hear of his death in 2012, I happened to be living in Los Angeles at that time and off the road myself.
Without Bob Fleetwood Mac doesn’t make it to superstardom.
Legend..I ran right out and bought his vinyl..
I still listen to "Hypnotized" at least once a week. Eternal.
I LISTEN TO “Hypnotized” at least Once per day because it’s a song that takes me on a mini vacation~ I have just over 2,000 songs on my phone…yet Hypnotized Is Medicinal for me & lifts me into Relax mode. It’s in my Favourite 100 of the 2,000 songs. Cheers. 🎵🎵🎶 🇨🇦
Saw the penguin tour with Dave walker!! Welch kicked ass!! Awesome guitarist! With a white double neck Gibson!! RIP
Great choice of an artist to do a video on. You help ensure that Bob is remembered.
Always loved Bob.
Nice testimonial. He was there on some of my favorite FM albums. Mystery to Me is a Rock of album.
Always has been one of my favs. My heart broke to hear of his pain and eventual suicide. Rip.
Thank you...
I could not subscribe fast enough.. you actually made a video about my hero, Bob Welch 😊😊
My favorite Bob Welch songs are currently PARIS songs.
Both albums are beyond awesome.
1. Blue Robin
2. Religion
3. Big Towne, 2061
4. Heart of Stone
5. Slave Trader
Bare Trees was my fav by FM & one of my favorite albums period. 🌳
Supremely underrated body of work. Child of Mine is an all time blues rocker for sure
Great story, well-produced and written. Thx for shining a light on one of rock's forgotten heroes.I thought I knew the Mac backstory well-enough, but learned a lot from your vid. R I P, Christine McVie and Bob Welch.
I liked this video, immensely. This was as accurate as I have seen. Loved the band, from its first inception. ‘Bare Trees,’ was such a great album, as was ‘Mystery To Me.’ Welch was so underrated.
Rock on!
I have been obsessed with Bob Welch since i found "Ebony Eyes" in 2010.
I love his Fleetwood Mac material better than anything else they did.
He had a great style.
Everything he did was quality , imho.
Paris was so great . I prefer Paris to Led Zepplin and i think that was the point of Paris. Bob loved Led Zeppelin and wanted a hard rock band intgat style .( I could be wrong about that though. I know he said his favorite rock bands were Led Zeppelin and Van Halen during a 1999 internet interview)
I think Bob is criminally underrated and should have been inducted into the RnRHoF.
Would love to tell Bob how much i love his work
He was magical on so many levels. Brilliant man.
Future Games was the BEST, then Bare Trees, indeed. There was ok stuff later, but these two albums were the treatures.
Bare Trees is their hidden magnum opus, one of the finest folk rock albums ever made.
I was so fortunate to have been invited to his entry into the Musicians Hall of Fame and Museum because of Mike Lawson's invitation. What a lovely experience and tearfully joy filled celebration.
@@LoneWolfeMedia And I still have it.
What’s your favorite song of Bob’s?
@@LoneWolfeMedia "Mystery To Me " is as good , imo
Another great video man. Really glad to see you shining the light on the likes of McVie and Welch, who really are unsung heroes. Keep up the good work!
Your awesome thanks! More videos are coming!
Thank you for the video
Of course thank you for stopping by hope you are safe and happy :)
Great video! Nice, factual timeline of his progression as an artist and up to his sad, and untimely death.
He was a true artist and he is missed greatly by so many of us.
Thanks for this ♥️🎸🎤🎶
F the Hall of Fame..Jann WANKER and the merry band of Elitist music 🎶 Snobs...Love u Bob...yiu done good Matt NYC 👏
Bob Welch's dad was a known film producer or director. It was assumed that Bob would follow in his dad's footsteps. Saw FM in Seattle. It's a shame that Bob didn't find a specialist in acupuncture. My uncle found it was the most reliable thing for treating back problems. Each treatment lasted between a year & a year & a half.
Welch was totally screwed by not being included with Fleetwood Mac’s HOF induction. There would have been no future for Fleetwood Mac without his involvement. And his period completely set the tone for the direction of the band. He really was the bridge between the original band and the Buckingham/Nicks era. We aren’t talking about a brief secondary member of the band, we are talking about a leading member and songwriter/frontman for multiple albums. He should not have been excluded.
Listen to Jewel Eyed Judy and tell me that Danny didn't lead the transition away from Blues and quite frankly, the true unsung hero.
@@RobbyByrneDanny did not do much but play lead guitar and have temper tantrums
@@JH-rk9gd That's disingenuous; beginning at age 19, Kirwan wrote 50% of the material on 4 straight albums (Then Play On, Kiln House, Future Games, & Bare Trees); Welch wrote 25% of the material on Future Games & Bare Trees; both were unsung members & key to the transition towards superstardom as far as the Fleetwood Mac story goes.
wow, i knew none of this! extremely well done. thanks for sharing!
Glad you liked it!
Bob was the Cyrano de Bergerac of pop
In general People don’t realize, due to inaccurate reports, that FM were steadily getting more and more of a following in the US leading up to 1975. Bob and Christine basically set the stage for the supernova that FM would become. A lot of the material from this period sounded a lot like 1975-Tusk. I think.
Bob had early influences on the band FleetwoodMac, but his attendance was short, as with Peter Green, both great musicians.
But Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham had a much bigger affect on FWM, as well as Christine McVee.
The Rumors album was by far FWMs best album, and most likely one of the top 100 rock albums of all time.
The later FleetwoodMac was the best, by far.
*~ BOB WELCH ~*
Thanks for making this mini-doc, Bob is definitely an oft overlooked yet very important member of Fleetwood Mac and their history. So many great, deep cuts made during that 1971-1974 era.
This was the first Fleetwood Mac video I ever wanted to make and I’m glad I did, even if it’s no where near as popular as the Christine video. RIP Bob, you were one of the greats!
PLAY ON was an awesome book by Mick!!
I need to read it I’ve wanted to buy all the biographies from the band members for sometime now.
thank you for this video! I love Bob Welch's music!
Skipped over Penquin and 2 Paris albums ... 3 of Bob's best.
I’m not a big fan of Penguin but I do LOVE Bright Fire. I still have not listened to the Paris albums but they are on my list!
Bob Welch’s “Night Watch” on the Penguin album had an uncredited appearance by Peter Green on solo guitar.
@@LoneWolfeMedia Penguin and Mystery to Me are the same sound and almost inter-changeable to me. I don't see how you can like one and not like the other.
Paris is a power trio, very unlike anything else Bob has done. I saw them from point-blank ... and they rocked!
@@chrisjazzhands5373 Nice! - did not know that, but I think I hear him now. "Have you seen ... magic shadows?"
@@marktele8061 Mark, re the uncredited Peter Green solo-I have always assumed listening with headphones, it is the guitar in center of the mix with reverb up high so it sounds so far away in the mix. I bet it’s Welch playing rhythm guitar in far left channel. Green’s solo is clearest to me starting 2:26 in Night Watch but once you get the sound of his guitar and amp, he can be heard numerous places in the song. (I have the latest Fleetwood Mac 1969-1974 box set remaster) I assume they just let him jam on the track. Green was in bad shape mentally by then and it’s not brilliant but it’s still beloved by me. It vaguely reminds me of how Green soloed on “Black Magic Woman”
FM never had or needed a revival, they are ubiquitous
Of course Phil! I only meant to imply their commercial fortunes improved and their music was rediscovered by the new generation of music fans. That’s what I meant by “revival”. They already made their mark on music for sure and were legends before then.
Love this channel. Bob has great songs on every album he was part of.
Check out "Like Rain"
Unfortunately, Bob was talked into suing Fleetwood Mac in the early '90s, but by doing do, he ruined his chances for 'Hall of Fame' induction a few years later. I agree with everybody else though, he was instrumental in bringing to band to America.
The only FM album that I own is "Heroes are Hard to Find".
Thanks for the video. I love Bob Welch and you did a great job on this video 🙂
Edit: i just looked at a comment below and thought "wow, someone else considers Bob their hero.....''
Haha that is my old YT account.
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He will get into the HoF. Has to.
If there is any justice he will be!
It’s not like the members of Fleetwood Mac hated him, I mean Christine McVie & also Lindsay Buckingham who couldn’t have known him well DID help him out by singing background vocals to his most famous song “Sentimental Lady”. So that was nice on their part & Nicks for her part did have some nice things to say when she learned of his death. She couldn’t have known him all that well either although she said she did.
But I’m sure his lawsuit was way after then anyway but still I don’t think Christine would’ve held a grudge to help keep Bob out of the ROFH. I’m not sure how she felt about him then & now but I don’t see her being that type. Mick? Yeah kinda, Lindsay wouldn’t have known the man well enough to to care, plus it was pre his era. John McVie? Who knows maybe. But I still get sad about Bob now & then but this is life. .
After all Pete Best never got inducted either, so would you blame Lennon or McCartney? Their respective former bands transitioned into a different era that succeeded both of them so it’s common sense they wouldn’t be thought of in regards to what both bands, Beatles.& Mac would eventually become. Fleetwood Mac with Bob Welch was one thing, but what they were without him was a whole different animal & like it or not their greatness is rightfully going to be considered sans Welch than with him. So as Dylan wrote, Let us stop talking falsely now, the hours getting late. Is life fair no? Do I like it no? But it is what it is, time to let it be.
Have a listen to Bob's jawdroppingly beautiful solo on Christine's 'Why' (from Mystery To Me) on his final live performance with the band - recorded at the Record Plant in 1974
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A worthy heir to Greeny and Danny indeed.
RIP Bob, Christine, Danny and Peter.
Boy, would have been something hearing Danny play lead guitar on this classic FM song. While pleasant, Bob can't capture Kirwan's ever present distinctiveness, sting.
@robertbyrne8589
I started my concert going career in 1974 (Rory Gallagher and a then unknown Rush as opener)
when Mystery to Me was the Mac’s then - current release.
That album - along with Dave Mason’s ‘It’s Like You Never Left’ were the first two I ever bought with my own (paper route) money.
Then I immediately began working backward through the FM catalog
So even though I came of age in the mega chartbuster years of Buckingham - Nicks, I always reflexively regarded that era as a betrayal of the Greeny/Kirwan legacy.
Especially given Peter’s tortured relationship with success. To me they had become the textbook case study of his worst fears.
Danny had such a hugely daunting pair of shoes to fill in 1970, and to me you couldn’t pay a higher tribute to your mentor than Kiln House, Bare Trees and Future Games.
Jewel Eyed Judy, Station Man and Dust can stand on their own terms alongside Jumping at Shadows, Underway, and I Loved Another Woman - and there’s almost NOBODY I’ll put on the same plane as Greeny where that generation of players is concerned.
Except Bloomfield, Cooder and, well… nobody.
50 years later, I’m still listening to those records almost every day.
@@chriscoughlin9289 You're a good man, Chris. The first FM album I was introduced to was Mystery To Me. Took awhile for me to go backwards in time. I'm sure glad I did.
Not in the same league as Peter Green or Danny kirwan as either a guitarist or singer. However Bob made some good contributions.
Matter is neither created nor destroyed in this universe. Is energy matter? Is the soul energy? Are souls a real thing? Where’s Bob Walsh now?
Beautiful words Jay…
No excuse for his HoF exclusion.
Agreed 💯!
Bob Welch snubbed by The Grammys. Another instance of "the grammy awards" having little to no relevance. Degraded to a popularity contest and just another consumerist song and dance. However, "music fans" seem to think "the grammys" are a gold standard of some sort. There is NO accounting for musical taste.
It would have been so easy to induct bob in HOF. Shake my %*#@!÷ head
It’s never too late…
He should have been inducted into the RRHOF with the other members of FM, that was just flat out wrong. It seems like there's more stupid politics surrounding that place
than in DC. He was a crucial "bridge" for the band between Peter Green and Buckingham/Nicks incarnations. As you correctly point out, it's unlikely they would have survived without
his contributions, which were extremely significant, he was clearly much more than just some "hired gun" guitar slinger.
I still remain a Welch fan. His terminal illness led him to suicide, maybe the reason why the snobbish R&R Hall of Fame didn't include him when the band was inducted. Very sad.
His looks changed alot into the 80's. It almost looks as if he got a hairpiece or implants? He was great though and maybe the best period for them.
Bob is groovy
He is a RnR hall of Fame in my book. It's Mick's felt he' not in it. Mick would be in the poor house if it were not for the song writers in the band, and that includes Bob Welsh
actually not. The people in charge of electing him stated his music wasn't good enough.
there seems to be a few albums not mentioned post kirwan
Yeah this was just a general overview of Bob's career and his biggest musical contributions. I'd love to go more in depth in a future video!
Kirwin
there wasn't anything mentioned about the group, PARIS that he formed in the late 1970's🤨....both albums sold well. 😄
He introduced Fleetwood Mac to Americans.
He definitely wasn't given enough credit for the early success of Fleetwood Mac. So sad to hear of his medical problems and ultimate suicide.
Nashville.
I only like the Bob Welch period of Fleetwood Mac.
Perfectly valid! There’s some incredible, overlooked music in that era. What’s your favorite album? Bare Trees is an easy pick for me but Mystery to Me does have Miles Away and Hypnotized.
@@LoneWolfeMedia Mystery to Me
@@tommyhaynes9157 some great songs in that record.
Number one...Jeremy Spenser is still alive and well. You must have meant Danny Kirwan.
Tremendous Biography 😇.
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Just wanna point an interesting ‘ in-between ‘ .. hard rock/ ethereal 2 albums Robert put out w/ a band labeled “Paris’, in the 70s between Fleetwood Mac & his solo albums.
Move over to CZcams & listen a bit.
“PARIS” ~ then PARIS “Big Town 2061”.
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