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  • The famed Poincaré Conjecture - the only Millennium Problem cracked thus far.
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  • @Misterlegoboy
    @Misterlegoboy Před 8 lety +7582

    what a badass- he solves one of the 7 hardest problems in the world and then just drops the mic and leaves

    • @PhilosopherRex
      @PhilosopherRex Před 8 lety +844

      There are amazing people walking this world and I suspect that most of them we've never heard of.

    • @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459
      @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459 Před 7 lety +440

      Misterlegoboy he's probably pulling a gauss on us and after he dies we'll find fantastic work is left

    • @Redheisenberg
      @Redheisenberg Před 7 lety +101

      That's not being a badass. That's being edgy

    • @user-tm1ix7xi1n
      @user-tm1ix7xi1n Před 7 lety +212

      He is a great mathematician

    • @CdFMasterVideo
      @CdFMasterVideo Před 7 lety +610

      You forgot to say that he isolated himself for seven years, working on nothing but this legendary problem, until the day he unveiled his discovery...and after that he disappeared again.
      Yes that's epic. No dragonborn or heir of Isildur ever lived with more epicness.

  • @thefakeslimshady8881
    @thefakeslimshady8881 Před 3 lety +2412

    Gregori solved this question alone in his room which contains only a desk, a bed, a lamp, and a chair. And then quit all of mathematics after this. What a guy

    • @pawankhanal8472
      @pawankhanal8472 Před 3 lety +53

      Really he quit all mathematics ?

    • @thefakeslimshady8881
      @thefakeslimshady8881 Před 3 lety +20

      @@pawankhanal8472 yep

    • @pawankhanal8472
      @pawankhanal8472 Před 3 lety +120

      @@thefakeslimshady8881 But people says he is working on Navier stokes equations- other millinium prize problem.

    • @thefakeslimshady8881
      @thefakeslimshady8881 Před 3 lety +26

      @@pawankhanal8472 I mean I'm just recounting what I've heard from other sources and they said he just quit

    • @pawankhanal8472
      @pawankhanal8472 Před 3 lety +182

      @@thefakeslimshady8881 doesn't matter. He proved to be genius and that's enough. History will remember him.

  • @luck3949
    @luck3949 Před 7 lety +3210

    Hardness of math problems:
    0. I can solve the problem
    1. I can understand the solution of the problem
    2. I can't understand the solution of the problem
    3. I can't understand the problem
    4. I can't understand why it is not obvious

    • @ericsmith116
      @ericsmith116 Před 4 lety +66

      any its at all levels of math.

    • @rockskate15
      @rockskate15 Před 4 lety +74

      Under rated comment.

    • @chabichabi3932
      @chabichabi3932 Před 4 lety +17

      Where is obvious things in math?

    • @luck3949
      @luck3949 Před 4 lety +237

      @@chabichabi3932 For me it seems "obvious", that Collatz Conjecture is true, because there is always a chance to hit a number that will bring the sequence down to the "known area" where sequence reaches 1. But greatest mathematicians of humanity can't solve it for decades, and say that the problem is so hard that it is completely out of range of modern mathematics. So obviously, the fact that answer is "obvious" for me, only reveals that I completely misunderstand math, related to the problem.

    • @equim7363
      @equim7363 Před 4 lety +6

      @@luck3949 you so smart

  • @TheNuncFluens
    @TheNuncFluens Před 9 lety +5705

    An interview with Perelman would be the ultimate Numberphile video.

    • @General12th
      @General12th Před 7 lety +712

      No.
      An interview with *Euler* would be the ultimate Numberphile video.

    • @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459
      @nemooutis-marcusboateng7459 Před 7 lety +212

      Gauss.

    • @MIZORAM_mafaka_hnamte
      @MIZORAM_mafaka_hnamte Před 6 lety +71

      NuncFluens *Totally agree, bro but he didn't want it*

    • @user-rs5hb6gd8e
      @user-rs5hb6gd8e Před 6 lety +55

      prabably he is not 100% mental healthy.

    • @Adam270978
      @Adam270978 Před 6 lety +40

      Прикладна Економіка, у него есть некоторые признаки синдрома Аспергера, но он не псих. Просто у него проблемы с социализацией.

  • @dmitriysoloviev4423
    @dmitriysoloviev4423 Před 6 lety +2675

    Perelman refused to take any prize, thereby create Perelman Conjecture. Now mathematician trying to understand why.

    • @nischay4719
      @nischay4719 Před 6 lety +6

      Dmitriy Soloviev 😂😂😂

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf Před 5 lety +4

      Dmitriy Soloviev 😂

    • @hakinadedeji
      @hakinadedeji Před 5 lety +48

      You will need to ask the psychologists for that conjecture. They need to know what was going on in his brain

    • @makecba
      @makecba Před 5 lety +75

      I read somewhere that he thought he didn't deserve the prise any more than any other mathematician that made any contribution to the field before him

    • @makecba
      @makecba Před 5 lety +28

      i.e.: the famous "standing on the shoulders of giants"

  • @JanPBtest
    @JanPBtest Před 8 lety +2092

    This video never mentions one major hero of the story, the inventor of the Ricci flow himself: Richard Hamilton. This is almost like talking about relativity without ever mentioning Einstein. Perelman's achievement is undeniable, of course, but Hamilton did a lot of heavy lifting beginning with the early 1980s. In fact, one of the reasons Perelman rejected the Fields medal and other prizes was that the people who were in charge of awarding them refused (apparently) to make the prizes shared with Hamilton.

    • @cclifford1003
      @cclifford1003 Před 7 lety +39

      nice input 👍

    • @Netro1992
      @Netro1992 Před 7 lety +6

      You mean Poincare.

    • @SJ-to3dt
      @SJ-to3dt Před 7 lety +131

      I'm not really trained as a mathematician, I'm an engineer. But I have developed immense fascination with the dynamics of the events that took place around the awarding of the prizes for the proof of the Poincare conjecture (No background in topology).. It is just fascinating to see that Hamilton wasn't selected to share the prize and I also read that the mathematical community didn't take any action against the Chinese who wanted to steal Grigori's work. All these things and dynamics just gives you a chill in the spine =O

    • @JanPBtest
      @JanPBtest Před 7 lety +16

      *****
      (1) What you say is not relevant to what I said. (2) No, relativity was NOT discovered by Poincare. This is one of the standard claims by the anti-relativity crackpot crowd. Poincare came very close, true. This subject has been very well researched, I have no space here to dicuss it in more detail. Do your research. I'm not going to respond any further.

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 Před 7 lety +57

      Perelman should simply have given half the prize to Hamilton. Who cares what the committee scrawls?

  • @francescorende9987
    @francescorende9987 Před 7 lety +1949

    do a video on every millenium prize problem

    • @nicholaschin8804
      @nicholaschin8804 Před 4 lety +11

      Navier-Stokes was out this week! =D

    • @anthonyymm511
      @anthonyymm511 Před 4 lety +8

      Hodge conjecture might be hard to explain.

    • @epicswirl
      @epicswirl Před 4 lety +6

      P=NP really intrigues me because I’m a computer scientist. I really wanna solve it!

    • @tazogochitashvili6514
      @tazogochitashvili6514 Před 4 lety

      @@epicswirl So here's what I've been thinking, since NP-class problems need Polynomial time to check the answer to, doesn't that mean that the problem of P vs NP is a question beyond NP itself? We haven't been able to prove that one of the two solutions are correct, but what if we're just going the wrong way?

    • @epicswirl
      @epicswirl Před 4 lety +3

      Tazo Gochitashvili we can prove NP problems and even solve them in exponential time. The problem is we need an algorithm to do it in polynomial time like O(n^3). You may end up being correct that P=NP is unsolvable, but that needs to be proven and the $1 million will be awarded. If they can be solved in poly time then cancer could be cured theoretically. That is the solution we want. Perhaps we’re just looking at the problem from the wrong angle.

  • @dmitrymorozov1579
    @dmitrymorozov1579 Před 9 lety +1922

    ignoring the money he just wants to show that there is something wrong with our world. Some of his ex-partners in math betrayed him, he thought that that the world of math is the only place where people are moral and pure in their thoughts. But it turned our that even a mathematical society is full of bustards craving for money and the fame. We are a dirt world, and he is a just a saint Man. That's it. I proud of that such a person lives in my county.

    • @potenvandebizon
      @potenvandebizon Před 9 lety +72

      Well said. I think logic shouldn't be commercialized, though a symbol, like the medal, for his deeds might be in place. Or he might think that logic is above honor in that sense. Anyway he made the right choice with the money.

    • @wajideu5005
      @wajideu5005 Před 9 lety +86

      I would try to solve the problem just for the fun of it. I wouldn't turn down the prize money though. Not because I'm greedy, but because I have things I want to do in my life and money is a factor I would enjoy not having to worry about.
      Not to mention, turning a reward down just to be self righteous is ignorant and disrespectful imo. It'd be like joining a marathon, winning, and then rejecting the trophy. It's practically spitting in people's faces. If you don't want the trophy, don't join the marathon so someone else can enjoy the reward for the time and effort they put in.

    • @kabascoolr
      @kabascoolr Před 9 lety +158

      Waji Deu Your view of the world is a very bleak. It's more likely than not that if he had your mentality, he wouldn't be in the position to solve that problem.

    • @wajideu5005
      @wajideu5005 Před 9 lety +51

      kabascoolr Everyone needs money. It makes the world go round. I'd rather be bleak and content than foolish and regretful.

    • @kabascoolr
      @kabascoolr Před 9 lety +101

      Waji Deu You're already foolish. Not everyone holds your foolish views.

  • @manishamohanty244
    @manishamohanty244 Před 2 lety +117

    " Some people can't be bought or bargained with, they just want to see the world learn. "

  • @TheUneuro
    @TheUneuro Před 10 lety +929

    As a mathematician, I respect so much what you do Brady ! Thank you :)

  • @daverobertson623
    @daverobertson623 Před 3 lety +61

    So Perelman basically did the world's greatest ever hold my beer followed by an epic mic drop.
    Legend.

    • @boriskogan666
      @boriskogan666 Před 9 měsíci

      he was being ripped off by the mathematicians at harvard. he's refusal to accept the prizes were designed to shine a spotlight on the inequities of academic research.

    • @Reevobxz
      @Reevobxz Před 2 měsíci

      @@boriskogan666how can I learn more about this

  • @ErwinSchrodinger64
    @ErwinSchrodinger64 Před 10 lety +356

    While a very intriguing story, I'm surprised there were no reasons given why Dr. Perelman declined the money, fame, and accolades. His reasons, on some parts, I completely agree... many fields become doctrines that are devised by a very selected few. Science and mathematics are seriously suffering from a lack of openness to new ideas because of these centralized ideas (string theory, molecular quantum mechanics, and so forth). Unfortunately, not only is his intelligence and insight incredible but the his level of humbleness, unselfishness, and grace are far beyond most people.

    • @danphillips8530
      @danphillips8530 Před 4 lety +13

      Because he's a weird dude and weird dudes do weird things, the type of things a normal genius would think of as not normal.

    • @sergiocaruso1331
      @sergiocaruso1331 Před 3 lety +3

      He's a weird dude

    • @VithalNadkarni
      @VithalNadkarni Před 3 lety +5

      You have a deep point: Please check out my take on Perelman's refusal, which appeared in my column on the editorial page of The Economic Times:
      Man who said `No' to Million Dollars
      Imagine walking away from a medal regarded as the maths equivalent of the Nobel Prize. If that's easy, imagine solving a hundred-year-old conundrum ranked among seven of the world's greatest mathematical problems, each worth a million dollars. Grigory Perelman, a reclusive Russian mathematician, has done it all with the nonchalance of a nishkamya yogi.
      In shocking contrast, the conduct of the Fields Medal-winner Shing-tung Yau seems to accord well with the Iron Age of Kali: the Chinese mathematician has attacked his former protégé, tried to overthrow an aging mentor in a well-publicised attempt to grab credit for solving the million-dollar problem named after the French theoretician Henri Poincare.
      Perelman's otherworldliness was on display from his student days. In 1982, the year that Yau won a Fields Medal, he earned a perfect score and a gold medal at the International Mathematics Olympiad in Budapest.
      A Russian mathematician who later became his Ph D advisor said Perelman was different: "There are a lot of students of high ability who speak before thinking," he told The New Yorker. "(Grisha) thought deeply. His answers were always correct. He always checked very, very carefully and he was not fast. Speed means nothing. Math doesn't depend on speed. It is about deep."
      In 1992, when Perelman spent a semester in American universities some of his colleagues were taken aback by his fingernails, which were several inches long. If someone asked why he didn't cut them, he would reply in a manner echoing a Taoist sage, "If they grow, why wouldn't I let them grow?"
      He went back to a job in Russia that paid him less than a hundred dollars a month. He said he'd saved enough money in the US to live on for the rest of his life.
      He seemed obsessed by the Poincare Conjecture described as a kind of 20 th century Pythagorean Theorem. But after proving it, he didn't even mention it. "I didn't worry too much myself," he said. "This was a famous problem. Some people needed time to get accustomed to the fact this was no longer a conjecture." He turned down the Fields Medal conferred on him and broke away from his profession.
      A colleague described Perelman's logic thus, "To do great work you have to have a pure mind. You can only think of mathematics. Everything else is human weakness. Accepting prizes is showing human weakness. An ideal scientist does science and cares about nothing else." ENDS

      Vithal C Nadkarni

      409 words (2014 characters without spaces, including byline)
      ...

    • @moranii1843
      @moranii1843 Před 3 lety +40

      @@danphillips8530 What a thinker you must be

    • @drihtamnetu
      @drihtamnetu Před 3 lety +1

      Schrodinger, you sneaky boi

  • @billtruttschel
    @billtruttschel Před 10 lety +545

    Shouldn't we stop calling it a "conjecture" now that it has been proven?

    • @fergusmaclachlan1404
      @fergusmaclachlan1404 Před 7 lety +180

      Yes, it should be the Poincare Theorem now.

    • @NoNamedNobody692
      @NoNamedNobody692 Před 6 lety +104

      Not necessarily.
      Perelman only solved a very specific case of P.C.
      1. The General P..C. for the 3-Sphere still remains an open problem in Topology
      2. Same goes for the 4-Sphere
      The only reason the don’t appear to mention this is because it would be most likely too difficult to explain to individuals who aren’t mathematicians.
      Even the standard definition of the P.C. won’t make much sense outside of those individuals who have ever taken a Topology class before, and that’s usually taken around 3rd or 4th year for Mathematics majors in College during their Undergraduate years.

    • @chandrapandey822
      @chandrapandey822 Před 6 lety +36

      SFLOVER94
      Haha true I'm studying low Dimensional Topology and yeah it's truly difficult and requires a lot of abstract thinking ( compared to say an advance course in Algebraic Geometry ) but the biggest problem for me is Shortage of time because I have to write my papers and work in my area so finding additional time to read the proof just for the sake of knowing is just not possible..

    • @NoriMori1992
      @NoriMori1992 Před 4 lety +12

      I think when people have been calling a problem by one name for so long, they'll resist changing its name later. Besides, it wouldn't be the only problem to have an inaccurate name. Fermat's Last Theorem was called such long before it was ever proven.

    • @rifatzehra6546
      @rifatzehra6546 Před 3 lety +2

      @@NoriMori1992 agreed

  • @willchancellor6944
    @willchancellor6944 Před 4 lety +79

    [takes drag of cigarette] "I was with a bunch of people in San Diego who were really into Ricci Flow..."

  • @Q.Mechanic
    @Q.Mechanic Před 3 lety +20

    He has a gold heart. Humble, and sincere.

  • @emzy1083
    @emzy1083 Před 4 lety +73

    Perelman was my dad's classmate! From what I've been told, he's a super-nerd but is also a genius!

    • @ianleo3030
      @ianleo3030 Před 4 lety +2

      U from Russia?

    • @emzy1083
      @emzy1083 Před 4 lety +14

      @@ianleo3030 parents were born in st petersburg, i was born in america.

    • @stkelen9535
      @stkelen9535 Před 2 lety +11

      @@fio123 They are 2 different Perelmans.

    • @bustofpallasathena
      @bustofpallasathena Před rokem

      @@stkelen9535 whos th anothr 1?

    • @stkelen9535
      @stkelen9535 Před rokem

      @@bustofpallasathena Yakov Perelman

  • @jakedesnake97
    @jakedesnake97 Před 9 lety +325

    Hey Brady, could you make a series of videos explaining every millennium problems please?

    • @nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727
      @nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 Před 5 lety +5

      Why, so you could talk to them at a party to seem cool?

    • @bradearlharris
      @bradearlharris Před 4 lety +36

      NASA JET PROPULSION LABORATORY isn’t that why numberphile has so many subs?

    • @susanaa.6692
      @susanaa.6692 Před 4 lety +1

      Jakedesnake97 they should have taught us in school

    • @Nobody-xp6ip
      @Nobody-xp6ip Před rokem +1

      @@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 bruh shut the f*ck up? then why do we learn anything? who said you need to watch them? but the 300 people who liked the OP's comment do like the idea

    • @zy-fy8423
      @zy-fy8423 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@nasajetpropulsionlaborator8727 nah he is just curious chill bruh

  • @navarretedf
    @navarretedf Před 7 lety +963

    2:15 OMG they predicted fidget spinners 3 years ago 😱

    • @tiberiu_nicolae
      @tiberiu_nicolae Před 6 lety +96

      David Navarrete They were mathematically inevitable

    • @msrasras
      @msrasras Před 5 lety +3

      Buhahaha

    • @whatno5090
      @whatno5090 Před 5 lety +8

      They should have warned us

    • @chrisreynolds6391
      @chrisreynolds6391 Před 5 lety +6

      Ball, donut, pretzel, fidget, fidget spinner.

    • @Violet-tb8xo
      @Violet-tb8xo Před 5 lety +15

      I came into the comments just looking for someone to have said this.

  • @SystemofEleven
    @SystemofEleven Před 9 lety +89

    The only thing I know about this particular brand of math is that a donut and a coffee mug are apparently mathematically the same thing. And this is because one of my math teachers was very creative about coming up with excuses why he had food in class, heh

    • @MattL34
      @MattL34 Před 9 lety +10

      MsBoredom22 Yeah, a little more formally, two spaces are considered to be "equivalent" in this sense if you can come up with a "nice" continuous function between the two spaces. A sphere and a donut are not "equivalent" in this sense because a sphere has no holes and a donut has a hole. This hole causes problems which makes it impossible for there to be this sort of "nice" function between the sphere and the donut.
      Of course, this can be described very rigorously and precisely, but that's the general idea of what's going on.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin Před 7 lety +12

      What topology is actually referring to is the local connections between points. Imagine you draw a circle on a sheet of paper, and you contract that circle down around a single point until it becomes a point. That circle defines what points are "adjacent" to the point. With topology, you can move points further away from each other and in different directions, but the locality is still the same: you can do the same circle contracting thing and it will collapse to the adjacent points in the same way. To add a hole though you're have to either remove points or break the connection between some, changing the locality. Imagine you have a sheet of a paper with a line running across it. You could tear a whole in the middle of the paper, but it would divide the line in half. It's not saying a donut and a coffee mug are the same thing, but that you can deform a donut shape into a coffee mug shape without changing locality, and they are said to be homeomorphic. It's similar congruence or similarity, only it's concerned with functions that preserve locality rather than distance or relative distance.

    • @billboudreaux1
      @billboudreaux1 Před 4 lety

      lol

  • @imanuelc143
    @imanuelc143 Před rokem +20

    -comes
    -Solve one of the hardest math problem
    -resisting the prize
    -refuse to elaborate
    -leaves

  • @harvintoledo734
    @harvintoledo734 Před 4 lety +12

    Poincare Conjecture is a fascinating problem because we start to make many questions about what are indicated equations to solve it. It sounds simple but there are many theorems we need to know and use to get it.

  • @vinaloi41
    @vinaloi41 Před 10 lety +28

    Thank you so much for this Brady. I love these Millenium Problems.

  • @JohnHobitakis
    @JohnHobitakis Před 10 lety +25

    Perelman is a great character in the world of mathematics, thanks for this video. The millennium questions are very captivating, I wonder how long it will take for the next one to be solved.

  • @kwstaskartas9488
    @kwstaskartas9488 Před 10 lety +96

    Your last videos are amazing Brady ! Excellent choices.

  • @JensenPlaysMC
    @JensenPlaysMC Před 5 lety +19

    Came here to understand this, although an interesting video, i would have liked to have some brief explanation of what this proof actual stated and the basic logic behind what he was trying to do

  • @AlanKey86
    @AlanKey86 Před 10 lety +698

    Ooh... I just remembered an orange peeling question I had once which seems vaguely relevant to this video!
    *Is it possible to peel an orange such that its skin comes off in a donut type shape (as defined around **1:45**)? That is, one continuous loop that has a hole in it.*
    I have an answer to this question - a most elegant proof. But this comment box is too small to contain it.

    • @TheRealFlenuan
      @TheRealFlenuan Před 9 lety +54

      No it's not; CZcams updated the settings so that comments aren't limited in size.

    • @jaybrown6225
      @jaybrown6225 Před 9 lety +71

      The Real Flenuan Look up Fermat's last theorem :-)

    • @TheRealFlenuan
      @TheRealFlenuan Před 9 lety +13

      Jay Brown I already know what it is. -.-

    • @jaybrown6225
      @jaybrown6225 Před 9 lety +112

      The Real Flenuan OK . . . sorry if I am being dense, I took Alankey86's comment to be a humorous reference - "I have an answer to this question - a most elegant proof. But this comment box is too small to contain it." - to Fermat's note in his margin. I thought your comment about the comment box size not being limited missed his joke, but as I say, maybe your sense of humor is too subtle for me and went over my head. Anyways, I just thought Alankey86's comment was funny :-)

    • @jamesusespivot
      @jamesusespivot Před 9 lety +4

      I think I figured it out. May post a vid.

  • @bentoth9555
    @bentoth9555 Před 8 lety +260

    But, according to Homer Simpson, if it's a real donut then nibbles are allowed.

    • @chuffer595
      @chuffer595 Před 8 lety +2

      I loved that book on Simpsons maths

    • @bentoth9555
      @bentoth9555 Před 8 lety +1

      Me too. I saw Simon talking about it on one of the Numberphile videos then immediately checked my local library.

    • @SJ-to3dt
      @SJ-to3dt Před 7 lety

      pseudo science it is then .. =D

    • @69erthx1138
      @69erthx1138 Před 5 lety +1

      So n-tiny Homer's approaching width 0 could make m-nibbles {m-> infinity}....hold on, "what were we talking about?"

    • @ishworshrestha3559
      @ishworshrestha3559 Před 4 lety

      Yui

  • @benjaminbrady2385
    @benjaminbrady2385 Před 6 lety +26

    2:17 Numberphile predicted fidget spinners before anyone else

  • @maxschmidt1787
    @maxschmidt1787 Před 6 lety +6

    It amazes me that so many people watch your videos, always thought that math is not that popular.

  • @clockwerk7547
    @clockwerk7547 Před 10 lety +598

    So... what is the Poincaré Conjecture?

    • @batterup98
      @batterup98 Před 9 lety +6

      Tacky Yeah Don't be rude.

    • @tackyyeah8688
      @tackyyeah8688 Před 9 lety +9

      batterup98
      I apologize if you're offended, but I was offended by what is a rather troll-type of question ... but I hope you appreciate the incredible wit that insult of mine showed ... sphere into torus by way of bullet!

    • @ktkatte6791
      @ktkatte6791 Před 7 lety +2

      durrr - you

    • @FirstInstruMentalist
      @FirstInstruMentalist Před 7 lety +124

      "If you can put it in a box and close the lid, and it doesn't have any holes, than its a sphere, in any dimension"

    • @yulio3000
      @yulio3000 Před 6 lety +48

      It can be turned into a sphere in any dimension with only stretches squeezes and morphs*
      Is what I believe is the conjecture. Not necessarily that it is a sphere, which of course is ludicrous, because we can instantly disprove that in our 3 dimensions by looking at a cube.

  • @zacharyhizon5165
    @zacharyhizon5165 Před 7 lety +287

    2:16 what kind of fidget spinners are those

    • @TheLordoftheDarkness
      @TheLordoftheDarkness Před 6 lety +34

      I stopped the video to see how many likes would the person who would write a comment about fidget spinners get.

    • @batatah
      @batatah Před 6 lety +2

      Dark_Lord 9 I did the same thing 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @alecapin
      @alecapin Před 6 lety

      i just did the same :3

  • @sean3533
    @sean3533 Před 10 lety +22

    I saw a video on another channel about topology showing how a sphere could be turned inside-out following those same rules. It had a really cool animation but didn't explain very well how it was done.

  • @nekad2000
    @nekad2000 Před 5 lety +38

    Most brilliance languishes in obscurity. Unfortunately, this is the world we have fostered: people with few brains a tons of ambition usually take take the credit. People like Steve Jobs fit this example perfectly.

  • @energysage9774
    @energysage9774 Před 10 lety +59

    There's a tiny piece of misinformation in the video. When mathematicians refer to a 2-dimensional sphere they mean the same thing as the laypersons sphere which exists in 3 dimensions (because its surface is 2 dimensional, just curved). This wouldn't be an issue since it's just a matter of convention, but the distinction became important when she talked about the conjecture having been proven for 5-spheres and up. In this case she meant the mathematicians "5-sphere," (which thus exists in 6 dimensional space) which is two more dimensions than the final case which Perelman proved, and not 1 dimension higher, which is what the video implied.
    It's a curious fact that it was eventually easier to prove the higher dimensional versions of the conjecture (7 was proven before 5), but an intuitive way to understand that is that you have more "elbow room" so to speak.

    • @zoetropo1
      @zoetropo1 Před 7 lety +3

      This is what is so interesting about the margins, when constraints and degrees of freedom are balanced in such a way that solutions either don't exist or are needles in the haystack.

    • @DavidB5501
      @DavidB5501 Před 7 lety +2

      I don't know if it's a relevant comparison, but proving the 5-or-more-color theorem was a lot easier than the 4-color theorem!

  • @analogico3615
    @analogico3615 Před 2 lety +1

    Katie explained it so well

  • @viewinventions5044
    @viewinventions5044 Před 4 lety

    I Love this channel with all my heart.

  • @Galbex21
    @Galbex21 Před 3 lety +19

    I guess if you can solve the hardest mathematical problems for humanity, you really don't think too much about money or prizes.

  • @justicewarrior9187
    @justicewarrior9187 Před 3 lety +5

    I can't even imagine how difficult this girls course was

  • @MrVaskor
    @MrVaskor Před 5 lety +2

    OMG hi Katie! I finally came across your video! :)

  • @TheFool_0
    @TheFool_0 Před 3 lety +36

    Who's here after count dankulas video?

  • @Andrew-es6yt
    @Andrew-es6yt Před 4 lety +24

    I speak Russian. From the few interviews on the web it becomes obvious that Perelman made very weighted and rational decision to refuse the money. Mostly because he thinks Hamilton made more for the solution. Actually, he hates when people think that he is some kind of a crazy genius. He is not.

  • @jacderida
    @jacderida Před 10 lety +3

    Another awesome video! Are there gonna be videos on all the millennium problems?

  • @relike868p
    @relike868p Před 10 lety

    Another Topology video! That's amazing... more people should be interested in these stuffs!

  • @TheLlamachupacabra
    @TheLlamachupacabra Před 10 lety

    Please do videos on all 7 unsolved problems. Somewhere out there some 10 yr old kid is watching. yrs down the road will be one to solve them. Numberphile could influence human history! Thanks for what u do!

  • @BeyondWrittenWords
    @BeyondWrittenWords Před 10 lety +56

    Grigori is no bs

  • @lukel4297
    @lukel4297 Před 8 lety +41

    Next video: Navier-Stokes equation!

  • @miguelreinozo4085
    @miguelreinozo4085 Před 5 lety +2

    Excelente vídeo. Gracias por difundirlo.

  • @darthvatrayen
    @darthvatrayen Před 10 lety +35

    What about a hollowed sphere? Can that be made into a solid sphere or does that count as a "hole"?

    • @blackkittyfreak
      @blackkittyfreak Před 6 lety +7

      If it's a hollow sphere with thickness, then in classic 2-dimensional topology it would count as two distinct surfaces rather than one, because the inside is not connected topologically to the outside. But if you're working with 3-dimensional topology it would be considered a higher-dimensional torus.

    • @maxchatterji5866
      @maxchatterji5866 Před 6 lety

      Yes

    • @ChrisBandyJazz
      @ChrisBandyJazz Před 5 lety +3

      A “hollowed” sphere is just two spheres. We’re just talking about 3d objects that have a single continuous surface.

  • @TDansVids
    @TDansVids Před 7 lety +7

    I love how you have James wearing a Red Sox hat the whole video and Brady at the end wearing a Yankees hat.
    Go Blue Jays ;)

  • @warriormanhasdied6479
    @warriormanhasdied6479 Před 3 lety +37

    who is here after count dankula.

    • @warriormanhasdied6479
      @warriormanhasdied6479 Před 3 lety +4

      I don’t want your likes, stop rewarding me.

    • @beans2939
      @beans2939 Před 3 lety +2

      @@warriormanhasdied6479You are disturbing me, I'm picking mushrooms

    • @mezzy238
      @mezzy238 Před 3 lety +2

      It's your boy... RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

  • @divyanshupandey4728
    @divyanshupandey4728 Před 2 lety +8

    I am a undergrad student in Mathematics and I know this video dumbs down the conjecture so that we all can comprehend it easily but i would appreciate if someone provides a guided path to form a basic background in understanding Perelman's proof . Just some directions to navigate forward
    (I have basic knowledge on real analysis and calculus )

  • @AliHamedMoosavian
    @AliHamedMoosavian Před 10 lety +31

    Brady, you should make a video with Perelman himself.

  • @zackyezek3760
    @zackyezek3760 Před 6 lety +5

    What if I was allowed N "forbidden" operations for my topological transformations (e.g. N cuts or sphere closures)? I can imagine turning donuts into spheres with a single cut in the real world, so having a generalized topology for that kind of thing seems like it would make sense. Also, it seems like you could have classes of objects where one cannot be transformed into another even with infinitely many cuts.

  • @jesuschrist7037
    @jesuschrist7037 Před 4 lety +15

    0:45 There is a certain relationship between geometry and topology. Lol I always thought topology is just big daddy of geometry.

  • @vineetasinghverma5534
    @vineetasinghverma5534 Před rokem +1

    Yes I want to listen to Dr. GrigoriPerelman!

  • @123must
    @123must Před 10 lety

    Thanks a lot ! Very interesting.

  • @indyreilley
    @indyreilley Před 10 lety +3

    Math is so cool! I love the TARDIS shirt!

  • @dudeistpreist5721
    @dudeistpreist5721 Před 3 lety +3

    He being a genius was treated poorly by his peers and hated people. He saw most as holding ego over the field and hated the behaviors of journalists and by extension the prizes.

  • @eetuthereindeer6671
    @eetuthereindeer6671 Před 2 lety +1

    So the question is that can you change a sphere if you could strecth the material as much as you want but without cutting a hole in it into a donut shape with a hole inside? So what was the answer can you or can you not? I didn't get that from the video

  • @zeynepbayram5127
    @zeynepbayram5127 Před 7 lety +2

    you guys should do a video on the difference between rimman integral and lebesgue integral

  • @loganmyall660
    @loganmyall660 Před 3 lety +4

    Convinced Perelman has been working since he left the math community. the questions are; on what, and is it even finishable?

  • @mishacol
    @mishacol Před 4 lety +2

    Grisha is a living genius. What a brain! I wished I could speak to him, but it is even less possible than solving another unproved conjecture.

  • @dhruveshpatel1109
    @dhruveshpatel1109 Před rokem

    Absolute GIGACHAD this guy!!

  • @jamesehrhart9364
    @jamesehrhart9364 Před 3 lety

    Wow! I took one of my math classes from James Isenberg. I think it was differential geometry.

  • @Avaricumstudios
    @Avaricumstudios Před 3 lety +9

    Grigori conjecture: *why Grigori refused one million dollars*

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 Před 4 měsíci

      Grigori refused the million dollars because he had mastered mathematics to such a degree that he could manipulate space time and create anything he desired. Thus money was worthless pieces of paper to him.

  • @robo3007
    @robo3007 Před 10 lety +13

    I don't get why he didn't accept the $1000000. I understand he probably just didn't need the money or wanted to make a point that he was doing maths for pleasure rather than for money, but if that was the case why didn't he just give all the money to charity? I'm sure they'd make better use of it than some big mathematics institution with 7 million dollars to share.

  • @KMusic_13
    @KMusic_13 Před 9 lety +1

    Have you guys thought about doing a video on Navier-Stokes? I think that's a really fascinating problem and it's seems more intuitively applicable than Poincaré.

  • @MrFusionFox
    @MrFusionFox Před 10 lety +1

    Why is the guy named James Isenberg in this video and James Isner in the Ricci Flow video?

  • @subjectline
    @subjectline Před 3 lety +8

    I would love to know what his Mum said about the million dollars.

  • @drewmqn
    @drewmqn Před 4 lety +5

    π million subscribers, very satisfying.

  • @tigmanshu4494
    @tigmanshu4494 Před 2 lety +1

    Perelman.
    Solves one of the hardest problem ever.
    Refuses to take the prize money.
    Leaves.
    🗿

  • @stt.9433
    @stt.9433 Před 7 lety

    Reminds me of a French philosophise who was offered a nobel prize but refused for some elevated reason. A problem like that takes years to solve, he's not just some genius who had an epiphany.

  • @Truetheist
    @Truetheist Před 8 lety +133

    I feel stupid lol

    • @YnseSchaap
      @YnseSchaap Před 8 lety +7

      +Truetheist Don't, this kind of mathematics is purely abstract it has no real use in the real world it's more like seeing if something can be done or not 95 % of the people will never get this kind of math myself included

    • @nose766
      @nose766 Před 8 lety +38

      +Ynse Schaap A huge chunk of pure mathematics has applications on physics.

    • @YnseSchaap
      @YnseSchaap Před 8 lety +1

      Kevin U It has but how close is physics to the real world of most people I believe just as far as math, try explaining entanglement to the average joe

    • @YnseSchaap
      @YnseSchaap Před 8 lety

      cious li Would have done a lot for me that's for sure

    • @datojokhadze7860
      @datojokhadze7860 Před 8 lety +1

      +Ynse Schaap well it's not exactly like that,people try to prove some of the problems,which are non-relevant,as you say,to the most of the things,but in fact,they derive new problems,which are more relevant and some day i'm pretty sure that P vs NP problem(one of the millenium problems,and the most important one,actually) will be solved and then there will be total turn over in whole science or non-science industry

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid Před 10 lety +19

    It would just be so great if every one of the Millennium Math Problems' Solvers refused the million dollar prize.

    • @nileshjambhekar7699
      @nileshjambhekar7699 Před 9 lety +17

      I disagree respectfully. These are once in a lifetime problems that require year if not decades of dedicated work. People have to feed their families. Ideally we would pay our mathematicians better.

    • @Skidonti
      @Skidonti Před 9 lety +12

      Nilesh Jambhekar Yes. The amount of time and work that goes into these millennium problems would be worth far more than a million dollars if in the actual market anyway.

    • @MetroAndroid
      @MetroAndroid Před 8 lety +4

      The Vidlets Nah, I just think it's hilarious that he didn't take it, and it would be funny if everyone refused it. Has nothing to do with morals.

    • @___________2204
      @___________2204 Před 8 lety

      MetroAndroid Oh.... You should have said so bro

    • @JMBBproject
      @JMBBproject Před 8 lety +1

      +Nilesh Jambhekar I am totally agreeing with your statement. My turbulence professor said that even for the navier stokes equation people should pay 10 million or more because not everybody knows how much work behind such theories is! It is so hard to understand and grab at some point.

  • @RiotUnderscoreProd
    @RiotUnderscoreProd Před 4 lety

    Wow Katie is intelligent and beautiful. I didn't understand the concepts so much but I enjoyed the narrative.

  • @keahnbruzzi8423
    @keahnbruzzi8423 Před 8 lety

    This is so inspiring

  • @nadivkaspi6211
    @nadivkaspi6211 Před 6 lety +5

    2:15 its a figit spinner, 3 years ahead of its time. TRIGGERED.
    great video :D

  • @theonetrueac
    @theonetrueac Před 10 lety +5

    Am I the only one with audio problems on this video. All other videos seem to be fine. :-/

  • @tomp2008
    @tomp2008 Před 9 lety

    i like that little guy on her necklace.. what's that from? could swear i've seen it somewhere before

  • @Chewligan1
    @Chewligan1 Před 4 lety +1

    I looked at Perelman's paper - I could only recognise the full stops !!! The stuff in between was a blur !!!

  • @Gigatless
    @Gigatless Před 2 lety +5

    Anytime I feel that my coding job is too hard I go and watch some math videos and my life seems easy again

  • @MrWorshipMe
    @MrWorshipMe Před 8 lety +66

    I did not understand from this video what the conjecture was... just that it's premises were about a finite object with no holes like a sphere, but in any number of dimensions... what was the actual conjecture? why is this conjecture important? I really don't care about the personality or appearance of the one who proved it...

    • @Patsoawsm
      @Patsoawsm Před 8 lety +22

      +MrWorshipMe The conjecture is: If you have any such object, i.e. any shape you can imagine but without holes in it and not "infinitely large", then there is always a way to push it around and deform it into a sphere. The inifitely large part is simply to avoid things like an infinite plane. It certainly has no holes but you won't be able to deform it into a sphere!

    • @RosarioLeonardi
      @RosarioLeonardi Před 8 lety +29

      +MrWorshipMe 2:23 "If a object which don't have hole on it and it's finite then it's a sphere (or can be made into a sphere)". Seems trivial on 3d space, but mathematician needs a proof so it can made generic.

    • @lenks0
      @lenks0 Před 8 lety +4

      +MrWorshipMe Agreed, this was more about the person who solved it and not much about the actual conjecture, difficulties, solution, applications, etc.

    • @ganondorfchampin
      @ganondorfchampin Před 7 lety

      I looked into it, and the sphere was actually the final case to be solved.

    • @dennisbarac1052
      @dennisbarac1052 Před 5 lety

      @@RosarioLeonardi so maybe I understand it correctly...if I have a rope and i travel with a spaceship around a cricle..i reach the end of the rope and i try to tighten the rope...if it really gets tightened then the universe is finite? If it doesn't get tightened then the universe is infinite? Or did I miss something?

  • @Fallingmonsters
    @Fallingmonsters Před 4 lety +1

    3:50, If I'm not mistaken, it was Freedman in 1990 (d=4) and Smale in 1960-1 (for d>4) (as shown by the papers at this timestamp). You say it was "4d spheres that was still unsolved" -- did Freedman's 1990 not do this? Wasn't Perelman for 3d? I know language and timelines can easily break down if not used very precisely so I'm not at all suggesting you're "wrong" lol, just trying to understand. Thank you

  • @ornestebuitkute9720
    @ornestebuitkute9720 Před 5 lety

    That's brilliant !

  • @user-jy3ns5rv1k
    @user-jy3ns5rv1k Před 5 lety +10

    Perelman on why he didn't accept the prize or medal: "I'm not interested in money or fame. I don't want to be put on display like an animal in the zoo." Ironically, this has made him much more famous and "on display" than if he would have accepted the awards.

  • @AnindyaMahajan
    @AnindyaMahajan Před 5 lety +3

    2:11
    Numberphile predicted the fidget spinner!

  • @carolnorton2551
    @carolnorton2551 Před 4 lety +1

    just watching this has done physical damage to my brain. Thank you

  • @barneyronnie
    @barneyronnie Před 8 měsíci

    Grigori's eyebrows are worthy of worship!

  • @-IYN-
    @-IYN- Před 5 lety +36

    Grigori Perelman is not a strange man. He just doesn't think like a "western" man.

    • @clockfixer5049
      @clockfixer5049 Před 4 lety +3

      He valued ethics and conceived maths the most ethical science whose community shared high moral standards. For him time proved that he had been sorely mistaken. One of the reasons why he parted company with maths and all the rest.

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 Před 4 lety +2

      @Floofy shibe It's sad, but not unjustified.

  • @ianalvord3903
    @ianalvord3903 Před 3 lety +4

    "Is any smooth, finite shape with no holes a sphere?"
    Can somebody just tell me whether it's true or false already...

  • @vitorstraatmann2732
    @vitorstraatmann2732 Před 5 lety +1

    Please do a video about the navier-stokes equation!!

  • @weareallbeingwatched4602

    It is about the intersectionality- id 0 = blob id 1 = blob + punchblob (-blob). By defining displacements, we can assign dimensionality of measure, and spot the difference is a bounded philospphical method which limits a posteriori experimental science methodologies. Socrates likes this.

  • @rationalmind3567
    @rationalmind3567 Před 5 lety +41

    this is called actual genius and not those who claim their IQ is of 100 or 200 or say they have cleared some entrance exams.

    • @membersonly807
      @membersonly807 Před 5 lety +2

      Perelmans IQ is over 175

    • @hexa3389
      @hexa3389 Před 4 lety +1

      @@membersonly807 I am not sure if this is true but I have heard that IQ has factors involving wealth and quality of life which ofcourse don't contribute to how smart you are.

    • @membersonly807
      @membersonly807 Před 4 lety +4

      @@hexa3389 income and iq correlate with each other , people with higher iq earn more money on average

    • @hexa3389
      @hexa3389 Před 4 lety +6

      @@membersonly807 but children? Do they earn money? Or what about people who live on poor countries but are smart any way?

    • @costakeith9048
      @costakeith9048 Před 4 lety +5

      @@hexa3389 While in the typical range wealth and IQ are correlated, once you reach a certain level of IQ that correlation disappears and even reverses. At some point you become intelligent enough to realize that nothing in this material world means a damned thing.

  • @Hoodratliker
    @Hoodratliker Před 5 lety +27

    I bet he has solved other problems too, but since he hates attention and this gave him lots of it, he probably just destroyed the papers and kept his mouth shut.

    • @not2tired
      @not2tired Před 4 lety +1

      Solves 16-body Schrodinger equation... crumples script and uses it to light a Hibachi.

  • @jebus6kryst
    @jebus6kryst Před 10 lety +1

    I love her Doctor Who shirt and robot necklace. The robot fits perfectly in front of the TARDIS.
    :)

  • @nandakumarcheiro
    @nandakumarcheiro Před 3 lety

    A cube by giving a diagonal pressure this can be made as a sphere perhaps how many times it requires a pressure every time leading to superconductive pulses in between with suitable rubber product of a cube with suitable materials may be hexa penta graphene.

  • @FLOABName
    @FLOABName Před 10 lety +27

    she's wearing a doctor who shirt.

  • @miweapp2692
    @miweapp2692 Před 5 lety +5

    The 8th millennium problem by CLAY Institute: Perelman money declining

    • @user-xh9pu2wj6b
      @user-xh9pu2wj6b Před 5 lety

      One of the versions: taxes. The other one: he wanted to live a quite life but got huge attention and now everyone kniw where he lives. Imagine what could happen to him if he decided to take the money.

  • @aarushmullick
    @aarushmullick Před 7 měsíci +1

    Grigori Perelman you absolute genius

  • @ranielyfire
    @ranielyfire Před 6 lety

    Its honestly amazing that there are people crazy smart people just laying low - i wonder why though