Why China Thinks Its J-20 is Better than the F-35 or F-22
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2019
- It’s not surprising that China claims that its J-20 stealth fighter is superior to the U.S. F-22 and F-35.
All nations like to claim their weapons are better than those of their adversaries (and if they don’t, it’s because they want more money for the defense budget).
But a Chinese defense magazine has gone a step further by describing how Chinese experts view the J-20 as superior to American jets in many - but not all - categories. - Věda a technologie
As a Chinese, I haven't seen any (0) media saying it is better than F35 and F22......
Ya it's not a true
百年战忽，毁于一旦
战恐狂喜
Master Super As a Chinese,I have heard all of the media believe F35 is shit
@@lunaticcosmos5962 I mean official media. Not those "self-made-media"
The so-called "Chinese defense magazine" is actually a Japanese defense magazine, although it uses Chinese characters and looks like a Chinese magazine to the uninitiated. Is the video maker an idiot or is he trying to mislead the viewers?
It's actually a Canadian magazine printed in Chinese, Japanese and English.
@@xhotweb The editor 平可夫 is a Chinese, but an anti-government type of person, while his magazine 漢和防務評論 has a Japanese title (漢和 is a Japanese word, not a Chinese word; it means 中日 in Chinese or Sino-Japan in English), obviously targeting Japanese as well as Americans and dissidents in China. Since its title is in Japanese, I consider it a Japanese magazine with Chinese and English versions. On the other hand, if a magazine is published in Chinese with a Chinese title, I consider it a Chinese magazine, no matter where it is registered. The word Chinese/Japanese here refers to the language, not the country of publication.
@@xhotweb it's actually a gay magazine
@@shrek_2_on_dvd699 😂
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Fun fact, non of the Chinese officials think J-20 is better than F-35 or F-22. They are very humble and just happy they can make stealth fight similar like US with a small portion of the budget.
Yep mostly with stolen tech
@@JC-gf4sj Yeah, like, America builds all these mighty fighter jets on stolen land by killing native Americans.
@@KK-cu1un thats another topic, but since yoi brought it up, how about china taking tibet? Taking lands belonging to indians, and having the 9 nine dash line? Funny right
@JC You do know a few things, but you only listen to one side of the story. That's sad. Tibet has been a part of China in a very particular way for at least a few hundred years, even though it enjoyed a very short period of independence in the early 1900s. I know you're gonna start the argument that the CCP never owned it....Yeah...brainless westerners. There were countless regime changes throughout Chinese history, but regardless of the regime, this land is still called China. And Indian lands? I thought they were taken by barbarian Brits back then. There were no clear borders between China and India. The UK drew a stupid line and created all the problems. To sum up, your western ancestors or masters, whatever the case may be, created all these problems and now stand at a moral high ground and pretend to be the nice ones who care about human rights. Yeah...tell this to the thousands and millions of lives claimed by Europeans and the US and they'd show you their middle fingers.
@@KK-cu1un lol, tibet was never part of china, its an empire on its own, your greedy ccp wants to claim everything in asia, no im not a westerner, im not anti chinese or china im anti ccp, and yes i know about maginot line. Dont lecture me,
The f35 was kept small to keep the radar targeting down. Even if the plane is stealth does it’s size make it easier to radar lock? I also remember the reason why the f35 used single engine and slower speeds was to keep the heat signature down for missile lock and stealth. I’m assuming these planes aren’t as stealthy as they could be if equipped with a better engine, which is why they went ahead and made it a bit larger for multi role capability.
I watched many Chinese military TV show, Actually No one (?) think about J-20 is better than F-22.
zhuonan that punctuation (?) I love it.
zhuonan ☝️only Chinazi 😎
@@mikewonghongkee4480 傻逼
Mike Wong Hong Kee you dickhead
Mike Wong Hong Kee shut up，sb
India says the j-20's stealth doesn't work. "we can see them with our existing radar with no modifications"
lol india their prime minister said he used clouds to hide their planes from Pakistan's radars they can't be trusted
saqib wani because Pakistan doesn’t have good radar
@@GHOST-yf2vb Modi was right when he said about hiding in cloud because the only RADAR that Pakistan has or can afford is their eyes.
Their military officers said it was night time so they couldn't retaliate.
@@shailz25 that's the reason they sent their f16s in the day ..it shows they don't have the tech ..
@@shailz25 I remember that he said "we're ready to retaliate but unfortunately the attack happened at night"
Thanks for the video, I needed a laugh!
0:39 Kanwa Asian Defence is a monthly Canadian military magazine published by the Kanwa Information Center. It is published monthly in English and Chinese versions
A Taiwanese *expert* said: "Although J-20 is invisible to radars, it can be seen by people's eyes."
Yes, Taiwanese experts also said they can bring down a jet by throwing rocks at it.
taiwan expert said chinese can’t affords boils egg, no it is not a joke
Taiwan experts also said they warned WHO of covid-19. Their claims are not a joke, but they are themselves a joke.
@@tliew3846 They have a greater standing regarding truth and honor to the rest of the world then the mainlanders controlled by the ccp. Once the ccp runs out of money what use are they ????
如果说中国制造的东西和美国制造的东西一样好，那是因为这些设计被中国偷走了。但是在这种情况下，F-22猛禽可以击碎J-20
The J20's have favorable ratings in Alibaba.
lmao
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For people who wants f22 knockoff
Lolz
Hahaha
Underestimating an adversary can be fatal
China got some serious tech
trash
No, China's military is very backward
@@isjsb1235 china’s military balloon scared the shit out of Americans
I wonder what the dong feng missiles might do? 😂😂
@@opcon3155🤣🤣🤣
@@opcon3155 usa won't understimate anything, even if it's a fly. they will use a nuke on it if they have to.
They sound like they are defensive platforms defending their assets from an offensive airborne assault.
Looking stealth and being stealth are 2 totally different things.
so what exactly are you trying to point out?
If you look at closeups the Commie airplanes have huge cracks in their skin. Makes them an easy radar target even on old systems!
@@ThomasLee123 so are you trying to say that the j-20 has cracks on its skin?
@@ThomasLee123 human eyes radar? new tech?🤣
@@akltom some people are retarded.
The magazine is a Canadian magazine😂😂😂😂so you should say the Canadian think the J20 better than F35 or F22
汉和！那谁战忽局的！真怀念！
@@sanzhang975 哈哈
@@SaltyPirate71 Do you mean the PLA pays people to scold themselves in front of the world? 😂😂😂
Gavin Wang You are clearly a WANG!
Man idek what jets Canadas RCAF uses cus its so small..
What are the songs at 5:23 and 9:41?
Shazam is malfunctioning and giving me random, wrong answers.
Holy sh!t a good aerospace docu narrator!! Good pacing
On Chinese media, it was reported that J20 still has a long way to go to catch up.
I don’t believe that for a second. It’s not in chinas nature to admit something like that
@@davelowesky8054 Check the facts instead of making assumptions. And I am quite curious about your understanding of China’s nature.
@@lwty 自己艘国内的新闻。J20吊打F22好吗，不要光嘴？
@@lwty check facts instead of making assumptions? Who makes assumptions now?
@@cristianzeta9616 如果认为个别自媒体就代表了中国媒体，那我无话可说
0:37
Kanwa Information Center, a news organization registered in Canada, was first established in 1993 in Toronto. Kanwa publishes two monthly magazines (Print/Online), the Chinese language Kanwa Defense Review and the English Language Kanwa Asian Defence, and operates one publishing house.
Thanks !
This isn't the factualy important video I was hoping for but was definitely expecting.
I always thought the Chinese intended for it to be some high speed long range stealth interceptor.
Its size reminds me of the Mig-31.
It is smaller than F-22
@@zoka7108
It is bigger... even compared to the SU-57
@@penemuelwatcher2378 it's longer, but just a little, 21meters long, and SU27 is 20m and F22 19m. it's because the shape, like the short width, make it looks longer than it actually is.
The entire plane is designed around large missiles such as the PL-15, and its large body is for doing missions un the South China Sea.
IMO, from the design point of view, it doesn't actually look that bad tho
What do you know? You know shit and eat
Another dot on F35’s radar. Then red button presses J-20 will become forever stealth.
Do you get the great plastic leather seats and fittings as the China great Wall ute including 7 year warranty. 👍
The most common definition of super maneuverability is post stall maneuverability or the ability to maneuver below the stall speed. in that regard, the F-35, Su-27 and F/A-18 can do it and thus can be considered super maneuverable.
pretty sure the us considerd super maneuveraility nothing thats desireable because once you are at stall speed your aircraft is pretty much dead in combat with multiple threats
given the F22 has thrust vectoring its far more maneuverable.
@@Wilderweincd depending on the situation most of the time you dont want to be close to stalling speed it can have its uses
@@PBMS123 and tjen a Russian jet shows up and is even more maneuverable due to its multi axis thrust vecroring and all of a sudden maneuverability is not relevant anymore 🤷♂️
@@PBMS123 True, the F-22 does have thrust vectoring, it is only two dimensional, up and down. The Russian SU-57 can thrust vector in any direction and independently from each engine.
5:25 when you want that 10 minute mark on youtube.
Underated comment..😂🤣😂🤣 LMAO
hahaha
Lmao😝😂😂
Exactly on point👏👌
Yeah not even trying to cover that up lol
3 ads in a 10 min vid how
They might think its better becasue they don't know the specs of the F22 or F35..
Those who think like that are mistaken, the aereal refuelers could be or should be armed with extra long range stealth misiles, lasers and other defensive measures
"And if they don't, it's becuase they want an increase to the defense budget."
*nods* A man of culture. /like /sub
So i looked up the so-called "Chinese defense magazine" that you showed at the start, here's the wiki description:
Kanwa Asian Defence is a monthly Canadian military magazine published by the Kanwa Information Center. It is published monthly in English and Chinese versions, the latter entitled 漢和防務評論.
Umm, you see the problem here? The umm... *Canadian* part?
@@dixonhill1108 could you link an article?
@@dixonhill1108 Kanwa Asian Defence is well known for anti china stand
Man! The target audience of the video don't read Chinese, or know nothing about the magazine. So in the video they just need something looks like Chinese and name whatever it is as they want, as they always do...
@@dixonhill1108 Its cute to see people like you who just love to make statements like "paid by CCP", "stealing tech", etc for facts that is too uncomfortable for you to swallow because it does not conform to you lack of open-mindedness.
I didn't think China had a Airforce! And now they have experts? Lmao 🤣
I am Chinese, and I have never heard a Chinese mainstream media mention that the J20 is more advanced than the F22 or F35.
低调低调
**Next: Why Iraq thinks its Mig-21 is better than F-22**
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@Ahmad Awad 😂 95 thousand Pakistani soldiers surrendered in 1971
All of them said same thing.
@Ahmad Awad we have got better jets then old scrap jf17 and f16....forget the mig21..😝😛
Do you remember 93000 hijdas and the four wars you lost..stay in your limits....my dear half dick..
@Ahmad Awad Its hard to come out of Mig21. They will never forget it. lols
As soon as you said the f22 and f 35 were 4th gen and completely forgot about the f 22 getting it’s electronic warfare suit upgraded with f 35 tech I knew this video wasn’t properly made
The F22 isn’t getting F35 upgrades, its getting its own upgrades which are classified.
@@saucejohnson9862 sorry I should have clarified some of the upgrades the f 22 are receiving are modified f 35 computers mainly processing systems and encryption technology
@Christopher Schotts or is that what they want you too think do remember much of the aircraft is kept classified back when Australia made the Collins class submarine it was called a colossal fail by the media because all of the details on capabilities were kept classified some still are today but now that the information is declassified and the RIMPAC results are in it has been declared the most lethal, stealthy and effective submarine of its type and the same is happening with the short fin barracuda never judge a book by its cover until you read it and also no aircraft has a perfect streak the f 22 lost a dog fight with a French raffael a few years ago so of course dogfights have been lost just because you invested money into what should be a superior fighter doesn’t mean your fighter will win every time their are always weaknesses
@Christopher Schotts so why didn’t the YF23 win furthermore why are countries still buying the f35 do you honestly think countries like Britain and Australia would buy it knowing the issues involved render it useless when has a system ever worked without falter the answers is never the Russians couldn’t develop the su 57 correctly so India left the program Britain’s type 45 destroyers engines were experimental and when exposed to warm water like that of northern Australia the Middle East and the pacific caused a complete engine failure requiring the ship to be towed a perfect system will never happen the engineers can complain all they want but the fact still remains this is what we have to work with and we have to adapt to it
@Christopher Schotts one problem their not stealthy which means Russia’s a 400 anti aircraft missile will tear them to shreds it’s the reason why countries are trying to get their hands on stealth aircraft because Russia’s anti air capabilities are almost unrivalled you can call me naive for it but it still doesn’t change the facts s 400 is highly resistant to 4th gen aircraft electronic warfare excluding dedicated ew aircraft, can travel Mach 14 and has enough range to cover most of Europe and China is getting its hands on it too you want a good aircraft sweet but reality is now a good aircraft is one that is survivable also you seem to be forgetting that that one engine provides more power than an f 18 which probably explains why their testing lasers on the bloody thing warfare is a lot more complicated then it was 10 years ago and unfortunately now electronic warfare and cyber warfare are more powerful tools than speed and firepower you might want to start getting current instead of living in the past
In regards to fighter jets there’s gotta be a sweet spot in reference to size. For a bigger aircraft it’s true they hold more fuel.. but the added weight also burns more fuel. Is the trade off worth it considering u can always refuel in flight. Also the Raptor being smaller is way faster any more maneuverable. The Raptor can always get more fuel… but the J-20 can’t get smaller and faster.
Actually J-20 is lighter than the F-22 raptor…
From a pure Geometry perspective, the J20 should be better in many things. The delta wing configuration should provide better lift and range. However, as is with many things in China, the question is if they actually built it correctly.
There are a lot of under the hood materials that need to be in place for the J20 to do what the paper design says it can do, but no one knows if it any of it is real.
"but no one knows if it any of it is real." Actually, the J-20 is not real. It's all CGI and ChiCom propaganda to fool the American.
Actually, no Chinese media even thinks that J-20 is better than F-22 or F-35. We are chasing the US's unbeatable capability and regarding that as where we are fighting for. We admit even after 20 years since F-22 was ever made, it's still the best 5th gen fighter in the world. No fighter else can compete F-22 in whichever quality and quantity.
The only thing I can say about the J-20 is that I think it looks really cool.
Really? I think that jet looks like it’s trying too much to look like the f22 but instead ends up looking like an over-designed mess.
@@vkqtran4721 no actually that design is fantastic for a supersonic stealth fighter... much better than F22... that design will let that fighter to fly faster than F22 with better maneuverability.... it looks like F22 I don't think so... but it has edges and some shape look-alike F22 you know why??? cox both of them are stealth fighter... for stealth purpose, they have to design like that.... look F22, F35, Su57, & J-20 has a very similar design for one reason(stealth) you can see most of all other jets are deferent from them.... it is not ether copying cox it is the only way that they can get what they want.... for exp: do you know that Russia also try to build a vertical take-off jet,(Yakovlev Yak-141) way before the US even try to build its vertical take-off jet,(F35)...Yakovlev Yak-141 and F35 are very much look-alike cox they both vertical take-off jets build for the same purpose unlike the UK vertical take-off so the UK one has a deferent design... as I say it is not copying
@@redfalconvfx7050 The J-20 is speculated to go faster and possibly have a better turn rate, but it sacrifices BVR capabilities. The canards at the front and lack of parallel angles are the most obvious flaws. The YF-23 is a much better design for the purpose the J-20 is attempting to fill.
@@sovietpineapple7938 yes your right
Soviet Pineapple F23 dont even have a weapon bay yet
I only have one question: Chinese said J-20 is still in its "infancy" stage. And its engines and avionics could be replaced very soon for example the WS-15 engine
It's all fun and games until the flight control stick comes off mid loop and the cheap plastic breaks when you're trying to eject 🤣
J-20 is made from parts available on AliExpress
Try out once..
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make your own
我觉得这是友军，局里同志们谁告诉我这个同志的代号是啥，下回给他二营长意大利面来一碗
I am really amused by the fact that the editors of the magzines found this many pros .
so bigger is better, US should use B52 instead of F22 then, longer range, more capacity lol
Just count how many patriotic Chinese youths loyal to their communist lord have and are studying STEM in America's top universities, thirstily absorbing latest western technology in mega multinational firms, applying its already sophisticated AI in military systems while their American counterparts are indulged in crabs like gender and diversity studies and creating race wars, then you won't laugh.
Remember J-20 prototype has its first flighting test more than 10 years ago back in 2011？ It took china only 7 years from flying its first 3rd gen jet-fighter to next gen. Guess where are they now?
@@templarroystonofvasey I mean sure. If you wanna test it with your nation's military, we Chineses are very happy to oblige. 😊
@@templarroystonofvasey Well you can try. We will see who will be the loser. 🤝🇨🇳🤝
@@templarroystonofvasey ??? Do you even know China? Do you really expect Chinese Military to collapse in one day??? What is it? Alien invasion??? Bruhhhh. Ahhh, some westerners are just plain stupid for sure. It is fine.
So the f35 and f22 are 4th generation, lol. Now that's hilarious. I stopped listening when I heard this.
Actaully, the Russian and Chinese classification is 1 smaller than the American. They call su 27 and f 15 3rd generation too.
There is a difference between the Russian/Chinese system and the NATO system. Please, read up before you embarrass yourself.
@@pangzhiyu8098 I'm well aware of the differences. The post is in English not Chinese or Russisn. Let understand the intended audience before dropping combative posts. This video is clearly a propaganda piece intended for Chinese and Russian audiences with the appearance for NATO audiences. Watch it again with this understanding and nearly all the inaccurate, missing, and odd points will fall into place. Make sure you make an attempt to understand the source and agenda of thise dropping web posts before simply and blindly believing the content.
@@klt479 Not really, from the source it sighted, and conclusions it made, the video is very clearly trying to establish the message that although J20s are a threat, the F22 and F35 are all round better platforms.
@@klt479 Besides, what has that got to do with your ignorance of the difference between the two grading systems? I am attacking not because you displayed ignorance (everyone is ignorant, it is human nature for us to not know about things we are unfamiliar with), but because your use of language suggests that you have an arrogant mindset and completely refused to listen to the subsequent arguments made by the video because a certain peice of information was mismatched with yours and you are certain that you are the one who's right. Being ignorant is completely ok, in fact, I made a mistake in my first comment, the 4 gen grading system only applies to China and not to Russia. What is not ok is completely refusing to acknowledge the opponents view just because he or she cited peice of source that did not match your belief.
I am not suggesting that you should follow the argument of the video. Just like you, the content maker also has insufficient knowledge in certain areas, demonstrated by how she literally cited the wrong origin of a source. But we should still listen to the argument first, then do our own individual research, then proceed to refute with our arsenal of sources.
Don't need mid-air refueling when you have carriers lol
What if the target is inland?
@@DY-fy2jh point is china had a joke of aircraft carriers and the j20 can't be used from them so they would have to be coming from land bases US can park multiple aircraft carriers off the cost and destroy everything within about 500 miles inland after that they can pretty much do what they want also the j 20 is a POS that has been tracked by the Indian airforce with Su-30MKI using a radar almost 20 years old
It cannot be a point-for-point comparison. Each country has a different strategy, depending on its geography, technology, and economy. Each weapon system is designed to play a role in that strategy, not for making comparisons. The lesson for America is try not to bring your war to distant shores. Or try to win without fighting or risking a fight.
我同意
I mean, we are not going to let China invade Taiwan period. If that is American imperialism then I am fine with it.
glad to see a lot of people who watch this guy think objectively, there is wayy too much misinfo whenever it comes to vehicles meant for war. jesus don't get me started on the war thunder players.
You've missed the point: they're not using unreliable engines; they're sitting on weaker but reliable interim engines until the ws-15s are ready.
Like I have always said, Our F-16 pilots can annihilate China’s best fighters because it’s our pilots and their training that make the difference.
and technology
Yeah in an f16 I doubt they would be able to win against j20. Yes pilot experience plays a huge role but if there is also a huge technological Val between jets it matters just as much
I'm very happy that you think this aircraft is such a threat to the USA. Keep thinking that!
@hwangdi zhang lol the f22 isn't ancient, just because it was built a longer time ago doesn't mean its worse. Its still best air superiority fighter. Besides, the j20 hasn't even started full scale production yet. Keep dreaming, keep dreaming
@hwangdi zhang the rap does have aesa radar, and its getting a update for its electronics. Most of the stuff about j20 electronics and radar is classified, so its hard to compare on that area. Based on the size and shape, the j20 is probably less stealthy than the rap, and is probably less manuverable.
Some issues with the script... its is J20, not J22 (Mistake a few minutes in). Around 3 minutes the J20 is said to compete with "4th generation fighters like the F22". These are 5th gen fighters... not 4th gen.
they are classified by china to be 4th gen... I think that was the joke. china 'obviously' created the 1st 5th gen fighter. Too bad it will be worse than the 4th gens.
@@Ep1cSh0tz1 4th or 5th is different standard that Russia and US are used to call,different definition but same meaning
J 20 is designed for long range air interceptor mission. With its Long-range AAM all support aircrafts (non stealth) will be eliminated leaving behind F35 or F22 looking for place to land before they when out of fuel. In real war scenario they will most likely be force to ditch in the ocean, hence, it’s a 1 stone kills 2 birds tactical design.
So they Chinese are using old style fireship tactics with jets.
F22 & 35 can get refueled with low observable drones, a lot harder to target and hit than the KC tankers.
@SATAKA The Chengdu J-20 Mighty Dragon is superior at air-to-air combat than the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, because they were designed for two different roles. The J-20 is an air superiority fighter, whereas the F-35 is a multirole fighter. They are very close though in air-to-air performance. So close, in fact, that a battle between the two depends mostly on the pilots of the aircrafts.
However, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is still the best air-to-air fighter in the world, and is better than the J-20 by a significant margin.
It depends whether it lives up to the advertisement. Just make sure it does not fly off the sky into the deep ocean like F35 did so many times during the training session.
I mean, for a country that dont even have that much of technology advancement, especially for jets. I feel that it is already impressive enough. I mean they didnt even have a proper airforce during ww2, all the planes were bought, so little experience do they have compared to the United States with years of advanced building and experiences. If you look at it at a different point of view, it is quite amazing that it is a good jet, but not the best.
Design stolen from U.S and Engine from Russian.
they built the plane using stolen lockheed f-35 statistics. chinese hackers were able to access the files from an australian defense company or something.
China are good at reverse engineering and copying technology. They got the F22 blueprints back in the early 2000's, and made this thing.
Literally no one:
This channel:
"China thinks J-20 is better than F-35!"
USA as well
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delirium 45x trump made US suck, and I’m not a commie so don’t bring that in here
@@jambonfromage8878 ton pseudo 😂😂😂😂😂😂 génie approuvé 👌
@@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here actually, it's just you suck, don't bring trump here.😆
Did he just say "Thank You"?
Can’t wait to see these fighters in action.
The day a J-20 can rival the F-22 is the day I piss thumbtacks.
Two different missions ... j 20 is optimized as an ambush plane especially over the ocean. It will quickly sneak up from a great distance and release large missiles then run away. After the J20 is upgraded with thrust vectoring engines with more power, then that variant will also be used in close contact dogfights
I believe that it's just to big for dog fighting. I don't think it was built for it. Only long range to protect there man made islands and there coast. It's made to sink our aircraft carriers. 🤔🤔👍😎
Dude there are no more dogfights. We are not in Top Gun.
J20 have no guns, can only shoot missikes far off
@@dbp_pc3500 well China does have alot of mig 21s still
Perfect weapon for an Asian army 😅 Running away has a rich history over there haha
0:37 Those 2 magazines in left is from Taiwan lol
Maybe it’s bcuz we want to buy more advance weapons from the US
Excellent observation.
Atleast you agree US has better weapons than you do.
U know bro Chinese products have no varaney it will stop working whenever it want to
Yeah J20 is so stealthy that it got caught in the radar of our ancient flying coffin Mig 21
a link to Aliexpress please??
J-20 advantages and USAF responses:
-More range and less reliant on aerial refueling. Thus the US is investing on the KC-X Stealth tanker that can move closer to the frontline and will not be as vulnerable to attack.
-Newer and more modern avionics, this is why the F-22 MLU program or midlife upgrade program has been approved to keep it ahead of the competition
Don’t forget we have stealth tankers that are based on the carriers
@@vgatorfl92 like what?
@@zhe8586 the J20’s launch off Aircraft Carrier has limited ability on take off because their engines are extremely underpowered. Furthermore the American Pilots have actual combat experience. Case closed.
@@vgatorfl92 I was asking about the stealth tankers you were referring to. J-20 is not meant for carriers.
@@zhe8586 we already have stealth tanker on the Aircraft Carriers the Air Force likes to have its own toys however if things deteriorated quickly the navy would handle daily raids while the Air Force use Guam for long rang bombing
Apparently they don't know that a side project of one of the new flying wing bombers is that there's also a KC based on that platform being considered too. Means stealth can be maintained along with range extension, so the lower endurance for the fighters on paper really isn't an issue.
Being stealth doesn't avoid detection and never did, the only advantage is that it's harder to target with self guided missiles. This is a definite check mate to the US invaders. Any attempt to threaten China will end with thousands of dead American sailors and pilots who never saw it coming. The Chinese will be back at the base toasting to victory before they hit the bottom of the ocean.
very interesting point of view... Try to persuade those congressmen and senators of US.
There's no way that delta style wing doesn't have big radar cross section.
I use to think J-20 was just average until I witnessed it during one parade that thing is lightning in the thunderstorm.
The first engagement between either f22 or f35 should cure them of their misconception.
Typhoon will walk all over them kek
A bunch of engineers at Area 51 are laughing their asses off...
Yeah because their sec. of state said China is the only country now to challenge the US in terms of economy and Military? I think China would be happy if they are laughing, because the west has been so full of themselves the past decades that now they feel threaten by China's growing influence and strength. So keep it up, mentality like yours is what most western countries suffer from which lead to their downfall.
Very nice video
The J-20 looks like they cheated on a test from the USA, but they only got half of the answers correct
I just bought one from Alibaba, a little bit of scratch here and there and occasional breakdown, so far so good, 3 stars.
Nice one!!😂😂
I'm waiting on mine I bought from Nigeria.
i bought one F 35 from ebay but unfortunately engine was not working properly 🥴
@@MasterGamer-gk9gc Of course, the engine is made in China.
@@MasterGamer-gk9gc Is this TRUE that F 35 in on sale from ebay ???
Jet Fighters are a thing of beauty.
I can always tell when flying over. So much power. Definitely can hear, feel the difference between that and a jet airliner
Wow. Look at all those non-stealthy angled surfaces. Has the radar signature of skyscraper.
Everyone's a Gangster until the Russian Fighter walks in 🤣🤣🤣
U mean the su57?
Probably we'll see it pretty soon in the Indo-pacific region. All these r world class fighters. Pilot skills will matter a lot.
None of these video talk about the pilots. There is no way they can match the US.
Does anyone have any SAAB 21, Kenya is likely interested
china: our j20 is better than f22 and f35
area 51: hold my beer.....
Good video. US has aggressively been working on drone fuelers lately. Also J20 needs a better engine to fully exploit its potential, but it is a formidable platform, especially the dual seater version which can be used in electronic attacks.
It's honestly a copycat design, the entire front end is a raptor rip-off and not to mention the sleep delta wing design.
@@manveerghuman5276 This is how you know the person knows nothing when he says one stealth plane is copy of f22. To achieve stealth, planes have to be shaped flat like that, if you look at other 5th generation planes, they all look similar. Just because your plane has two wings, one central cockpit and two engines doesn't mean it is copying others, it's the only way to design a plane.
@@nikhileshsingh8706 um that's why the SU-57 looks different to the F-22 right?
@@nikhileshsingh8706 the j 20 is not a copy of f 22. it's a copy of the f 35. chinese government hackers stole the files from some australian defense company since us runs a lot of its jet tests in australia. which is why it looks like the autistic little brother of f 35.
@@manveerghuman5276 and thats also why the Su57 is BARELY considered a 5th gen fighter.
When I read the headline I instantly looked for the 😂
The truth is the J-20 atleast in my opinion cant have possibly been built to match the F-35 or F-22 however its a reliable indigenous aircraft one that was sorely needed if they want their navy to have ample support from the mainland. In short the J-20 is merely a step in the right direction. My prediction is the newest models will be more compact as to be more viable in naval combat and transportation.
Based and unbiased opinion
They haven't had the chance to steal and reverse engineer the F35 yet. But we know they got the designs for the F22 back in the day.
US already flying 6th gen jets: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you
Yeah right, only in ur own imaginary universe does the US have 6 gen fighters.
If that plane is stealth then so is my dirt bike 😆
As a Chinese, we know our country is a developing country and what we did just try to protect ourself, we don't want to compare J20 and F22 or F35, F22/F35 is a big tory of superpower but J20 is not
@Digvijay sandhu of course, why not? those place are below to China since 7 century.
The South China Sea belongs to China
Why do American soldiers come to Asia
@@hudrobin1671
7 century? China has a history less than 100 years.
Know your history wtf.
Do you also want to claim the land of Kazakhstan, Thailand, Korea?
Oh wait, at that time "China" were being ruled by the Mongolians. So to your logic, Mongolians nowadays should claim and rule all of you.
Unless they put thrust vectoring on the J20, it is inferior to the F22 and F35 in performance. Hopefully they are building better surveillance and targeting tech.
now it is
so... whats the name of music?
It would be amazing to just have an exhibition between these planes. No missiles and no gun ammo. Whoever can get a lock on the other once the battle starts would be the winner. Then we can for sure know without having to speculate. I know these planes are made to take out targets from long distance so dogfighting is not a likely scenario but it would still be fun to see them perform against each other and really put that tech to the test.
J20 with its long range strike ability is meant to use in conjunction with DF17 to create an area access denying capability.
It works like this: to reach target, F35C would need air refuels. J20 will strike the air tanker. Without using air tankers, F35 would need the aircraft carriers to move closer to shore to reach target. Then comes in the DF17/DF26 ballistic anti-ship missiles to deny access to large carrier ships. Hence denying area access to US strike groups.
Yup,, no Offense but great D though.
as if an f 22 would come alone with just one refueling aircraft duh. lets hope it never comes to this but the losses China would take if it did? lol. dude dont even go there
So, sooooo many more variables in real life combat situations than what you've stated there, like pilot capability & experience for one.
@@robhaywood6783 F22 cannot take off from an carrier, and it only has ~700km combat range. That means if an F22 where to target J20, it would have to be operating from a near-China airport where the airport itself would be within China’s DF missile strike range.
This is why I tend to see F22 in the pacific as a defensive rather than offensive weapon. It’s the carrier based F35s that are really the offensive weapons.
@@WSOJ3 DF missile propoganda have you seen one work? are your sure # 2 those DFs are anti shipping missile not for shooting down fighters. #2 you cant hit what you cant see. # 3 your comment makes no sense because an F 22 can operate from Japan with air refueling very easily so give me a break your tag name is warset and yet you know nothing how old are you 12 you are in your mothers basement right now ain't you?
"made in china" missiles targeting F-35. ... I can see the US pilots quaking
We're about ready to find out
The j20 is a Clydesdale, size wise to the f23 or 35. It probably would be at a disadvantage, especially if they're targeted by stealth planes out front and fired on by heavy missle platforms flying well behind
It’s about the RCS that matters to the missiles not the actual size of the aircraft, and how would it be fired on from behind?
J-20 is not designed to attack F-22 or F-35. They are going after the aerial tankers required by those and other planes in the US inventory. It should be VERY effective at killing those required support aircraft. Swarms of other very good fighters would deal with the American Stealth fighters. Pray such a battle never happens. China and USA need one another. War would be a huge tragedy.
@@erlend6338 yep
Both j-20, f-22 and f-35a need to rely on a complete combat system, such as the information system formed by early warning aircraft and radar. All the tests in this paper are only paper data verification and cannot reflect the real battlefield situation. Only when it is combined with the system can it give full play to its own advantages and effectively reduce the war losses. Limited by the space, this did not discuss the engagement in the complex electromagnetic environment, nor did it discuss the support role of the air defense system, but it is believed that these will effectively improve the operational effectiveness of both tree boys
要不要工资了，多吹f22呀
Lmao this was the same plane that got detected by Indias radar
and u believe india can detect it. u r india then
When a F35 departure from US, a RCS reflector would be installed on it.
So, it is the reason to see a F35 by radar, overseas.
Bazinga
@@phangchinhau lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@phangchinhau commie bastard spotted 🤣
When you’re testing your “stealth” plane but than a fourth generation fighter detects you
Ya it was detected by India's sukhoi 30 fighter jet in around 2010
So regardless of what i think the F22 in my objective view is far more superior to any other fighter whh just the time it took to fully develop and make sûre it is reliable now perfection takes time my friends not just stats because in the end it depends on the pilot also so yeah but i think f22 i leagues a head even tho i love the Su57 PAK FA looks better
I am Chinese. An employee of the company that produces J20.
In fact, the technology of J20 and F14 are equivalent. . According to our simulation. One F15 can shoot down five J20s. The F35 can shoot down 30 J20s. . F22 is invincible. The real stealth fighter.
The location of J20. It's more like between a fighter plane and a model airplane.
i am Chinese and i am your father. haha.
@@tonywyli
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Stealth my ass. That thing has a cross-section like the moon
An indian SU-30MKI detected it across nepal
@@indoroyale7848 that one which got shot by a jf17 thunder? Hehehehe
@David Lu your English can kill su 30 and me both
@@lilsweeny1678 you F-16 didn't fare any better against our mig 21
@Show Bobs and Vegana dude look at that thing su57 is only slightly more stealthy than f 18 hornets and look at this this it's cross section would be huge
The super powers are racing in equal pace in air force capabilities, sometimes it exceeds each other in new technologies......
I have never seen China say that, but anyway... the colonel that said China could win a war against the US got fired .. lol
F-22 is a 4th gen now? *thinking emoji*
No, Chinese have different categories. J-20 & F-32 are 4th gen. su-30, f-16, j-10 are 3rd gen
just the usual govt propaganda machine at work. no need to think about it too seriously.
We do not think so, face up to the gap, attach importance to development has always been our attitude, the Chinese generally do not say so
India to us is like us to them, well, have fun lol.
Well how many did they make so far?