"The Capitalist System" by Mikhail Bakunin
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Mikhail Bakunin (1814-1876) was a revolutionary anarchist who became one of history's most influential anarchist thinkers. He founded the collectivist anarchist tradition and helped bring social anarchism to prominence in Europe. He also participated directly in numerous struggles and revolutions during his lifetime. Click here to access another Audible Anarchist production about Bakunin: • "Socialism from Below"...
In this essay, originally written around 1871, Bakunin explains how capitalism is by its very nature exploitative. By concentrating political power and economic capital in the hands of capitalists, capitalism guarantees that the workers of the world will always live in misery. The asymmetrical power relationship between bosses and laborers is the backbone of capitalism, and there can never be equality or freedom as long as capitalism exists.
In a nutshell: the world today. How long ago was this written again? Human progress indeed! :/
Black Water , way off from the true world today, sorry to burst your nutshell
The 19th century, I believe. More than a hundred years ago.
Tyler McConnell , Yes, it was complete in 1917
1913 instead
Basically, unskilled laborers will rarely live a joyful life. If at all possible, acquire some useful skills.
The concepts are ageless and still absolutely relevant to today. Pure greed.
I love how succinct Bakunin is on these topics. It affords his words a timelessness that will not allow them to lose relevance until capitalism is dismantled.
I mean this literally could have been written yesterday, with minor jargon adjustments and no one would be able to tell it was written over 100 years ago 😬
I've noticed that's true with all of our comrade authors from so long ago. Peter Kropotkin, Emma Goldman, Karl Marx... Virtually all of them.
Well, at least population will soon start decreasing, and thus demand for labour won't be lower than supply anymore! The capitalists will have to compete for workers, not the other way around. That is a proof that governments and capitalists push for unending population growth, by trying to pay people to have more kids or by trying to attract more immigration, only to satisfy the greed of capitalist class
'The worker always has the right to leave his employer' reminds me of 'The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.' Anatole France
Bakunin was dead right about capitalism and dead right about Marxism. He more or less prophesied the key political battlegrounds of 20th century. Quite extraordinary.
Heirarchies in corporations are God!
Who the Hell is this hippy loser and prissy bozo?
So what’s the answer?
“Forced to sell one’s labor due to fear of hunger” _~~~
How do I eat lest I slave for my living?
@@LibertyGoose worker cooperatives
@@amoral_minority pls read Marx
They without us, nothing; we without them, everything.
He writes so well. Lucid, passionate, to the point. Thanks a lot for the reading!
This channel is a godsend, omg, I have dyslexia and little time to sit down, but I can listen to audio at my work, so this really is the best thing I could have found in my life right now. Thank you all so much for putting in the work to provide this for people like me who can’t sit down and read these works 🌹
Yes, I am actively listening to anarcho-synd material at work in my office. Rise. Up.
@@d.w.stratton4078 don't forget to share at your co-workers
Important note on Bakunin’s intro, this is decades before any form of a Marxist “socialist” state existed and he had predicted a Marxist socialist state would be a one party dictatorship. Bakunin’s definition of socialism is way closer to industrial democracy and nowhere near Lenin’s definition of socialism.
Industrial Democracy(!)
I mean you haven't read marx if you think marx didn't call for this, "Makhnovia" proclaimed anarchist free zone, acted as a one party state itself.
Marxism is saying we need to take authority, a Dictatorship of the Proletariat to end classes, the state itself is a product of class, once there is no class divide left, the state can wither away.
Holy SHIT this is depressingly accurate to the modern world.
Everybody should listen to this audio.
“But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge.”
― Mikhail Bakunin
Amen! Even so, come Lord Satan.
a system of slaves where the slaves don't even fully realize what they are.
And kept stupid in a more sophisticated way than before, that even some intellectuals don't seem to get.
Matt Newhouse :)
Give me the persons and keep the goods for yourself:)
Matt Newhouse I don't think slave is the appropriate term.
Maybe we are slaves only in the very root of the term - that nearly all property is owned - so though you have the freedom to go cut down trees, farm your own food, and some people do, there is that practical barrier.
I still think you could do that. If you yearned for freedom like that of a slave you could find wilderness and build your own life or you could band together with 10 others to buy the property (property tax maybe) and then simply live - a slave couldn't even choose to live an isolated life where his existence is irrelevant to the world.
That is no freedom. That is slavery.
Slaves were the property of others, no voice, no self control, I mean it is so extreme.
I think saying capitalism is slavery is like calling night time utter darkness.
There's something fundamentally different about utter darkness and that's why slaves cried tears of joy and sadness when they were given the rights of the rest us, and even now I'm sad thinking of those who died never having the chance to live as we do.
contactkeithstack slaves ate better than over 40 million american children do today. but i dont like to compare. the word slave is older than one example you are thinking of.
Matt Newhouse :
And Solomon loved the Lord walking in the statutes of his father David, except that he sacrificed and burned incense @ the high places.
It is unbelievably sad that this accurately describes today's world, especially here in the 3rd world where there is virtually no min wage to speak of
One planet-one people . This is the necessary view!
We need to reform education in order to reform civilization
Absolutely. It is the *KEY*. I fear humanity's time on this planet is past the threshold of viable repair, though.
100% agree. It is where we are dumbed-down and our true intellectual natures are crushed.
James Murphy
Yeah, that's never been tried...
reform civilization is an oxymoron. this is how it was intended to work.
Scott Zagoria
That's an interesting theory. Haven't studied any hunter gatherer cultures or primatology?
Just imagine if we taught this in schools and encouraged independent thought, instead of training children like circus animals to be slaves for the rest of their lives 😯😲
In Bakunin's time my impression is that while workers were exploited and mistreated, citizens of all countries were necessary for any kind of economic productive activity, and thus ordinary people had more de facto political power than in modern highly outsourced, finance controlled and automated economies. Therefore capitalists of the 19th century had to be somewhat clever and competent to hold on their positions of authority and power over ordinary citizens. . In 21st century societies using sophisticated propaganda, outsourced labor and outsourced automation, the capitalist has much more fully realized the perverse dream of receiving unlimited goods and services in return for doing nothing of any value whatsoever. This has led to extreme levels of incompetence and even stupidity amongst capitalist ideologues in positions of authority over our societies. This is a great, unnecessary tragedy. We surely have access to unprecedented levels of knowledge, clever, sound science and productive solutions. Yet our leaders are not merely exploitive but are also obvious morons. They not only exploit ordinary citizens. They also endanger the very existence of every citizen of the world with climatic disasters, unscientific economic nonsense and nuclear wars. Thinking people of the world are systematically marginalized, while on center stage, the idiots in charge (or their hapless, stylishly attired spokesmodels) drone on and on.
very logical but not particularly valid. rasputin had his power and now trump has his. sophisticated propaganda is irrelevant. all you need is nationalism as goebbels noted. education is subjective, but nationalism is inherent.
Harry Kirk very well said my friend, I agree 100% ,the current state is a sad state of affairs. It’s inhumane ,cruel and evil. It’s no wonder why sociopaths and psychopaths always rise to the top of their hierarchies called corporations.
Very relatable. It is nice to hear from a long dead intellectual that I am not crazy watching grotesque inequalities ignored
The people in charge (at least the globalists) are not dumb. although maybe some of them are and just ruthless.
Harry Kirk SO well put. Hence we are on the precipice of living in a true capitalist dystopia, if not already there :/
This is very similar to “Wage labour and Capital”.
Thank you for this very competent reading of an important text. The analysis of the capitalist system which Bakunin offers us can quite easily accommodate present-day variations of capitalist exploitation. Of course, in many parts of the world, as well as within so-called modern, democratic societies (sic), the kinds of systemic exploitation he describes continue largely unchanged and unabated (albeit disguised by way of ideological and consumerist modes of seduction). The logic of domination is one in its aims; the expressions of this logic and its impact on and throughout the world (human, natural and technological) are legion. AudibleAnarchist provides us with very powerful analyses by great thinkers. Thank you.
Maybe we should try worker co-ops in America.
David Horne
We already have them. No revolution necessary.
I bed, you got some in America but far not enough. Nowhere are enough of them.(co-op's)
Agreed,more of these need to be implemented
David Horne A major problem for worker coops is access to capital. If laws were instituted making it easier to borrow for coops there would be many more of them. Check out some of Richard wolfes stuff if you haven’t already.
Thanx for the info
I'm struck by how many similarities there between this analysis and the analysis of the Occupy Movement.
Well they're both just stating the obvious.
I don't consider myself an anarchist, but in in the era of Trump, I must say there were some good points. It feels good to expand your thinking.Thanks for uploading!
The era of Trump is the era that you have always lived in. Trump = Obama = Bush = Clinton = Bush = ...
That is true in a way that changes are smaller, but they are still there. This new tax cut is changing lives for many. Not on the suface, but is gnawing away. The commercialism is always tugging at my heals, it never says straight out ""I'm coming for you, poor worker!"
I'd recommend you look into the works of David Graeber, he explains all of this stuff in a clear way without using too much leftist jargon. Might be useful for talking too non-academic types.
Thank you for wanting to help me! I will try to stay educated and true!
@@milpoolvanhouten1260 Trump Obama
Look at Bakunin...if he were alive today he would be a biker.
Lol That is one beastly looking man
James Lee we actually have a Bakunin based biker gang, would you like to join?
@@NonServiamMedia Who makes your bikes, stupid?
@@NoahBodzeto answer your question that you dont actually want an answer to, the workers, shithead.
Hugh Janos it’s not my fault that you haven’t the creativity to see beyond your limitations. We’ll call this the “Large Ass” fallacy and name it after you, ok?
Take one economics class before you die. Focus on risk, demand, capital and resource allocation. Maybe you’ll get to the bottom of why you’re poor while you do this, too!
You’re welcome, stupid!
Jamie Walkerdine You’re also welcome, stupid!
The logical conclusion will drive the human consciousness to Buddhist and Taoist ideas.
Thank you for posting.
Absolutely
Uhhhh... No it will not. I don't think you ever studied Buddhism or daoism
Similar indeed, Alan Watts talked about it nicely. I'd say rather zen. The conclusion is to not have any concepts or systems at all to maintain the balance. Philosophy of no philosophy, religion of no religion.
THIS INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT NOW MORE THAN EVER, RIP TO THESE GREAT THINKERS LIKE BAKUNIN
Bakunin was the father of revolutionary anarchism for a reason ,too bad most of his tactics and ideas were set asside for liberal ideas of educacionism and individualism by many anarchist intelectuals in the turn from the 19th to 20th century.
Bakunin in a nutshell - freedom sucks
@@freedomcapitalpartnersllp7458 Murray Beookchin. Had written quite a lot on the subject of freedom. The is so much nuance in the concept. Americans especially seem to really like the word without really bothering to understand the meaning. To be fair, it is complex. If a slave owner is free to own whomever he likes, is that freedom? Or, here in America, you are "free"to do whatever you want, but everything requires i money. So the wealthier one is, the more freedom they will enjoy. Is that really the land of the free. I wouldn't call it that. Anyway, this is kind of of subject, your comment was regarding Bakunin's thoughts on freedom. I haven't read enough of his work to know. Is that his take? "It sucks". Seems a little simplistic
Man and the State (which remained unfinished) is pretty good. Chomsky likes Bakunin and has noted how little Bakunin is read today. Unsurprising.
Lmao even the "runs risks" excuse is mentioned
Again, wow. Why did it take me so long to find this.
Long Live The Anarchist Revolotion
Long Live Mihail Bakunin
Very good! Congratulations!
This is great!
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Thanks for making this!! 🏴
A much dark, raw version of Marx; no utopia, no Hegelian dialectics: just a self-substaining represive un-human system brought up (thought up) directly out of a pragmatic utilitarianism and description of economical forces, rather than the marxist historical, semiotic, religious causes of capitalism. One can clearly see why Marx came thru as the prefered philosopher: the poetical, profetical and slight mystical haze of the Manifesto (literally) beats the crap out of the raw reality of this writing,, tho Bakunin does school Marx in other ways, ie. concrete asertions and description of reality
helo ther anarkidies this is my first time listining to anarchist thory this shits prety good not gana lie love you all
"Earns 10 or 20 Times more than the worker" *laughs in modern capitalism
thank you.
And so it goes... He's so right on. Did he have a replacement plan? Would love to hear that.
he recommends offshore tax havens at some point.
great reading..
kudos for the alternate view of the world.
Thank you. Subbed.
Thanks for posting this.
Nice work
Thanks for this!
Is there any other audibles of modernist thinkers, like audible Marx or Adam Smith
There most likely are, we mostly do anarchist literature. You might want to check out librivox, they are the oldest and biggest of this type of project.
agree 100%
One question. Marx and bakunin differed on wages . Marx wanted to end wage system while bakunin supported collective owernship which means replacing wages or money with labour notes.
What do you think is better system?
In my opinion, Marx. He was eager to rid the system of wage labor completely, Bakunin for all of his genius, merely wanted to collectivise it.
@@RextheRebel how is it possible to get rid of wage labour completely?
How can an industrial society function without wage labour or money or comodity market?
Great mind. I salute him.
What we've been having for the last century is a global Monarchy of a few. A kind that was carefully studied and learned the weak points of a monarchy through history. A kind where a handful of people rule rather than one, so its stronger than an actual monarchy could ever be. A kind that keeps in the background rather than out in the open, so they don't get exposed and confronted as one. A kind that slaves people in the most modern way, so the slaves feel privileged and in control therefor being thankful and cooperative rather than being rebellion. A kind that creates more wants, desires and secrecy for slaves, so their slavery could last forever. A Monarchy of a few that wants the world under one governing body by the help of the very slaves in their systematic corporatocracy. How else can someone explain the 99% Vs 1% for so many decades if not centuries? One may want to call it Plutocracy or Aristocracy or etc but its more than a word can describe.
no, that's crap with all due respect. everything you mention is in fact a result of one word: money. people don't have enough competence to develop systems and make citizens obey. only money can do it and it has done it repeatedly since the beginning of time. please don't make a mystery out of it. that's how religions happen.
+Scott Zagoria Religions? How am I making it mysterious? Please think how you wanna dismiss electricity by adding a light bulb. Money is the new religion and those who have the most of it rule. World bank and IMF, Rothschild, Morgan, Rockefeller, etc...
Please make a video on Michael Bakunin theory criticism
If everyone, including Corporations paid 10% tax without any evasions ,we could all pay less tax ,and have good social services and health care
thanks, subscribed
You do know that Marx and Bakunin didn't have the best friendship in fact Bakunin called Marx out for being a hypocrite.
Matthew Mohri yah. But Bakunin and Marx aren’t to far apart in their base ideas.
Bakunin went on to think stuff Marx definitely didn’t. But the started in the same spot.
Thank you for reading this in a human voice, not an electronic one. A major question: How does Bakunin differ from Marx?
paul w he was Marx’s anthesis * links to article showing Marx had anti state views which were mischaracterized as statist views by Bakunin for antisemitic reasons and personal rivalry.*. ????
Marx's antistate sentiments ring soemwhat hollow, considering his only strategic demand on the worker's movement was to organise into a political party and get at the helm of a "worker's" state. TBF he was to the left of most social democrats, in that he wanted a worker's state and not "people's state," but essentially his program left the question of what socialism actually is and must be aside, in favor of "scientificity" and actual contradiction. So, his name became the ideology of absolutely antisocialist "scientific" state dictatorships.
only anarchy can succeed
Still need a clear English version of Mutual Aid, when's that coming comrades? =DDD
When you step up and help us make one :P
I have a shit voice and I'm crap at reading aloud. D; I'd love to help, but I'm really bad at speaking.
Can I request that Mutual Aid is next on your to-record list? ;DDD Because I'm turning up nothing but a Librivox audiobook which I'm having trouble listening to. x-x
We'll look into it.
Wooh! =DDD Thank you Comrade.
Beautiful text, well explained and clear all the way. Its really sad to see that there isn´t really a practical way in which these power structures can be replaced by ones that are egalitarian and more humane. Real communism needs so many conditions to thrive, we are all better off trying to survive in mild capitalism. A sad thought, but also a thought of truth.
nice
In anarchism world there would be no employee.
The capitalist takes the low hanging resources right off to make the prospective population dependent on complex methods and technologies necessary for further extraction resulting in scarcity. Parceling and taxing the land creates the need for economic extraction and limits ones ability to subsist. The degradation of the environment is not only the result of capitalism but also the goal.
Interesting
Civilization has enabled immense economic growth. It is a mathematical certainty that it will come to an end. The key trait of Civilization is an Administrative class. Sadly, this administrative class empowers itself, and dis-empowers every one else. The Administrative class includes both the Government, Corporate and Managerial class.
Dis empowerment of ordinary people is the focus of both the Communists and the corporate systems. The key to dis-empowering people is to ensure that they are fragmented and they do not own any sort of asset that gives them the ability to live their life on their own terms. The fragmentation is achieved by breaking up traditional communities.
ordinary people are dis-empowered because they like it that way. face facts.
"Audible Anarchist does not endorse male-centered language." Alright, you're awesome.
A boot
Really? I threw up a little in my mouth. Does that mean they support every single other idea or cultural trace in his writing? What a sad state of intellectual thought, that someone feels the need to apologize for the culture of a dead man in order to reproduce a completely non-editorialized historical transcript.
@@awhodothey if you're upset by a quick aside that unobtrusively acknowledges the historical text used somewhat outdated language that's slightly exclusionary... it's not "intellectual thought" that's in a sad state...
Ah, the good old days when the owner received only 20x more than their employees.
Love the compassion. Hate the fraud.
William Schutter , How is it then, everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or Children or lands, shall receive a hundredfold and inherit eternal life ????
Such radical self-sacrifice is self-validating and eliminates any room for fraud. Has nothing in common with the tyrannous imposition of a totalitarian mind-set or regime. To love like Jesus loves is to abolish every form of delusion and enslavement. Does that work for you?
William Schutter , like hell it does
Well, I would rather receive astonishing, non-merit based justice from the loving hands of God than anything like the "hell" you mention.
William Schutter ,
It is as you say.
You do your thing
There is one working-class in contemporary US techno-economic-political social relations of production and power. The working-class is comprised of the vast majority in this country that having no means of production of their own and are compelled to sell labour power as commodities to capitalists for money __in order to purchase means of subsistence. Capitalists in possession of basic means of production, distribution and finances. Workers as wage laborers are in an economical power-dependence relationship expressed political dominance-subordinate condition in social life.
The most powerful, economically dominated class is the most powerful, politically dominant class. Corresponding to this material and political ontology the dominant ideas in American culture is shaped in dominant class interests. The possessing classes and political forces own and control the means of socio-ideological production dominate the 'mainstream' press and media. Building a labor party require ruthless criticism of all media propaganda. This is the praxis by means of which the American working class must win the battle for democracy by means of which to legislate transferring productive forces from private possession of capitalists to public property of Society. State power for the working class is the goal and means.
The Democratic Party and the Republican Party represent capitalist class interests. Both are financially and socially based in Capital and the capitalist class and govern on its behalf. Profits of capital and wages of labor are inversely related. So class interests of the working-class and the class interests of capitalist classes are mutually exclusive. Sublation. A dialectic process. The organisation of workers into a class and party. Individual social class consciousness by praxis of class struggle. Class struggle is a political struggle. We need a working class party, a Labor Party financially based on trade unions and socially in the working class as a whole.
Yes it all makes sense on simple explanation. How is this then posible to have so many people of working strata to be in a possition of calling themselves relatively rich? Owners of property and moderate savings as is the case in western societies?. Yes it was so at the time of the person who wrote all that at the end of the nineteen century. There as of today the expectation of pursuit of happiness is taken to mean life of leasure rather then of a constructive member of the society. To many make an analogy of leasure to slothful sheer laziness. In to frequent examples to many have lost life force to better self no mather the circumstance. The psychology of child rearing by all to protective mothers lacking the skills of passing the role model of self sufficiency to that of living a life in perpetual dependance from others.
How did he tell the future??
Also your voice sounds just like a watch mojo dude
The following big question is what happens next? Where will the ideology of Capitalism take human global society and what will come of it? Reform? Another ideology? Extinction?
I suggest to re-hear "Imagine" from John Lennon. Then realize that no matter what economical system you choose as the best. Monarchise, capitalism, comunism, Theocracys. ALL OF THEM ARE RUN BY PSYCHOPATHS OR SOCIOPATHS. Psychologist have found the percentage of them in our species. Between 1 and a 4% percent of the humans living on the planet are psycopaths. Does "the 1%" slogan make sense now?
First. Find the way to detect ALL spycopaths and sociopaths and put them off of any mean of power on the surface of the planet.
Second. Then Let the 99% of the species find their own way. We are humans and no culture is "the right one". There are endless ways to be human, create and live and let live. Live, learn and share. But our species will pay a huge price. Because that 1% is very, very scared and has endless means to produce pain, suffering and protect themselves. It is them or the species. Thats why they are planning to replace that 99% of people with robots. Is it clear now?
it will lead us all to inordinate wealth, naturally, comrade.
As much as I prefer Bakunin to Marx, Marx prognostications on what would happen to Capitalism once it went global is instructive...
(tl;dr. First thought on first read. needs editing.}
When Mikhial Bakunin concludes that, "it is in the nature of things," this is not suggesting that capitalism and it's exploitative system is in the nature of mankind. Rather, it: slavery, is in the nature of the thing, which is ideology, itself. Capitalism is merely one of an infinite possible ideologies, both good and bad. But this the begs the question of what is good in the belief and creation of slavery or an enslaved society? The only true answer can be where we all in the struggle and joy of life itself. Together. This can cause societies and economies to systemically evolve, devolve or dislocate; where each alternative can spawn the reactivity of anti-social ruination or an ascendancy towards mutual interdependence and away from self-tyranny. Because even the rulers over a psychopathic parasitic society do tyrannize themselves with unnecessary cruelty. Unnecessary because the nature of things can change even when ideology may not. But then, how do we mutually participate in a non-ideological economic system that doesn't sacrifice society for its own existence? And how can such a socio-economic system be denied of perverse-incentive of rulers who have no choice but to self-abuse and deny their own true nature as loving beings? And, to hold each human being in mutual-esteem, while acting only out on non-violence, lest the individual or society, tribe or institution, economy or religion fall into disgrace and into a descent into maelstrom whereby even the subsequent civilizations may repeat the process and succumb unto ideological conceit? When this transformation is done while preserving both autonomy and agency, we will have true economic equality, regardless of the existence of variety of monetary systems or none. The means of self-actualization in a pro-social order is the aim and result of pro-social anarchy. Thereby, malevolent psycho-pathologies of both individuals and institutions become subservient to the common good. (Psychopaths are people too and do have a needed role in a pro-social world order.}
The irony of ignorance appears to be that few of our institutional leaders know why they are so frightened by the notion of anarchy; simply because it mostly lies in the realm of cognitive dissonance, as a symptom of false idolatry. Neither is a slave to hierarchy quite aware of how ignorant our rulers and our "self-tyrannized" selves are too; that is the secret of the perpetual motion of an anti-social civilization into continuous iterative succession of systemic repetitions of closed-loop anti-social rise and fall of civilizations until collapse and ultimately an unavoidable species self-extinction. {Possibly in less time than a few more generations, since a few generations ago.} Until then, the revolutionary change of anti-economic anarchy and non-violent social-anarchy are still our only pragmatic political option if we desire to create a systemic process of omniconsideration as a social order. If not this, then what else might be capable of enabling our mutual survival and escape from the slavery that is our ongoing societal damnation and denial of mutual participation in each other's physical, mental and spiritual annihilation? And, how do we prevent the corresponding anti-revolution that would commodify omniconsideration for the purpose of moral corruption through the idolatry of ideology?
I like this. Thank you
Just about sums it up.
thanks for putting this together, brilliant essay, in essence the real power is financial power, bakunin succinctly points out the bourgeois capitalist has many inherent advantages, and capital is used as a "weapon" to exploit people/labor for personal gain. (since bakunin) you can create a democracy and put all sorts of rights and freedoms on a piece of paper but you are not truly free without financial security, and *capitalism is an antithesis to democracy,* no matter the system devised, financial inequity is always systemically instituted.
democracy without financial guarantees or security/power isn't democracy. it was the one thing conveniently left out of the american constitution when written, voting rights were reserved for white land owning males... we have since passed laws that prohibit discrimination but they only protect the most basic of human rights, bondage, child labor, the right live anywhere (if you can afford it) etc. rights that are always kept to a bare minimum, rights that don't threaten real power, financial power.
Yo buddy snapped
_Spread the bread!_ (algo comment)
Don't know if the Am.Eng. pronunciation for bourgeoisie is 'boogeois', but it sounds rather strange. Surely it's pronounced 'Borge', like 'Porsche'.
The pronunciation in the recording is acceptable although there are others. Some choose to pronounce it in the original French some use more anglicized pronunciations. Generally you can say it bour·geoi or bour·geoi·sie . Where the 'ge' is pronounced like in beige.
While we are at it ; why do so many engl. speakers put an r behind words like idea and such, wherever r aren`t even near.? Is it my hearing?
No idea, you might want to ask about this at some linguistics oriented channel like xidaf or name explain.
Both _bourgeoisie_ and _bourgeois_ have an etymology descending from French, so both are most often pronounced as the French would.
In French, it would be pronounced: Boo(r)-jwuh-zee. Same in English, only with the soft pronunciations from French on the 'j'.
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Wait so... slaves didn’t love their owners?
There are none so enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.
The ultimate capital is the individual. And freedom of the individual over the collective is the primary function of a just state.
Interesting critique of capitalism though I would like to have him elaborate on the relationship between the capitalists and the state and its institutions.
it isn't the capitalist system per se that is the problem, it is the existence of capital.
Bruce buffer needs to hear this shit. telling Nate to bow to dana
B Hudson UFC fans pop up in the most unexpected places.
Young Vlasfetta just a fan of a few fighters fuck the UFC. no different than any other shit corporation with some rich cock suckers at the top making money off someone else's hard work cause they had capital to put up.
B Hudson 😳😂
Wow
I play a game where I resell Items currency (generated in game) is destroyed as I buy and resell items. I make a profit while doing this. now some people would think that this is exploiting the person selling the item and making profit on their work. but I am sitting at a computer the same as they are I take risks with my money to buy those items. they generate them for free. I offer the service of them being able to instantly sell their items.
Are they exploiting me? Because its hard to make the case that I exploit them when all I did was ask to buy an item.
"now some people would think that this is exploiting the person selling the item and making profit on their work." - well that's kind of what you are doing.
"I take risks with my money to buy those items." - That's the same excuse every exploiter uses.
"they generate them for free" - this is bs and you know it. They either had to grind or cheat to get those 'items', that is time spend and as we all know time is money. So they are essentially investing time and money into production. That sh*t ain't free.
"I offer the service of them being able to instantly sell their items." - That's what NPCs are for.
"Because its hard to make the case that I exploit them when all I did was ask to buy an item." - you turned a game into a job. If that isn't the epitome of capitalist b*llshit I don't know what is.
Well npcs don't buy items for any where as much as I do, and then the game is exploiting the player? is the game exploiting me for reselling the item? it took a cut of my sale. Does that mean sales tax is exploitation even if it is used to secure the workers income? "you turned a game into a job" so what about if I'm a gold farmer who sell gold to feed themselves? are they exploiting me? cause I sell gold for their gems to buy cash only items. Money I would otherwise use to feed my self, they have more money than me (obviously) and take my profit.
All of this is BS. people are free and choose their transaction to benefit them selves. they sold me the item cause the price I offered was worth more than the risk and their time. I knew I could profit so I spent time and risk. I do this to earn profit to sell for cash and buy items from the company. all for an increased value. every one in this equation benefited to the maximum they possibly could.
Hey Everyone What Do You Think Mikhail Bakunin Would Say About The Whole World (written in 2022) Adopting BLOCKCHAIN/CRYPTOCURRENCY? More Or Less the Same? Or Possibly Something Completely Different?
The eyeballs sent me.
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the lack of historical perspective is astounding.
I wish bakunin's anarchism was more popular to day(leaving aside his anti semitism of course). I love conquest of bread and all but i think bakunin's collectivism seems immediately more attainable and there are too many crypto tankies in the ancom community.
I'm interested in anarchism. Can someone link me a nice yt vid of an interview /speech/ discussion/debate with a living proponent of the movement? Thanks
Here you go: czcams.com/video/kikzjTfos0s/video.html
The 4-hour working day was theoretically possible over a hundred years ago with steam technology. Now 80% of labor is unnecessary. Equitable control of our technological infrastructure would not only make the world freer and more just, it would be more interesting and creative. So much human potential is wasted. The best "innovations" Silicon valley gives us are pretty pathetic and shitty. Gimmicky apps which are just modifications of previous ones, more efficient interfaces to shop for useless crap, and an increasingly monopolized internet overwhelmingly full of horseshit. Not to mention the anti-depressants and self-annihilating WMDs.
Big Backy-Screw the Prols.
Basically, slavery is 100% exploitation, and capitalism is 99% exploitation. Let me tell you why I have come to this conclusion...
In the 1990's, I worked as an industrial photographer. One month, I calculated (kept track) of the revenue that I produce for my employer. It came to 1.2 million dollars (expensive products). In that month, I earned almost $2000. If my employer gained only 25% profit from that $1.2mil, it would be $300k profit. My share, as the producer, was less than 1%. So, capitalism is 99%
exploitation... 99% slavery.
I quit that job 3 months later...
Mark Dodd , how you make a living today?
so you produced the expensive products, mark? or you took pictures of them. i imagine the guy or gal who created the expensive product is the one who has something to complain about. snapping photos isn't real work. much respect.
Scott Zagoria if snapping photos isn't work, what is? Who are you to say what real work is?
Is designing a building less work than constructing it? Aren't both needed?
What do anarchists think about communism?
Communism (classless, stateless, moneyless society) is the goal of every anarchist.
Most anarchists are opposed to Leninism, specifically the idea that the state should be run by a party of educated elites who are meant to have command of the society and rule on behalf of the working people in order to root out capitalism and fight off reactionaries from within and without, the idea being that as these goals are achieved the state will become less necessary and wither away and eventually disappear on its own and result in the full realization of communism.
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Some anarchists are communists, some aren't. However, communist anarchists don't advocate a coup de etat or totalitarianism as a means to obtain the stateless, classless and moneyless society they wish for.
It's ironic that the modern anarchist has a love of capitalism and any time I have tried to inform them of its exploitive tendencies they scoffed at it, yet here is a founding anarchist who is clearly saying just that. I was not familiar with Bakunin but am becoming intrigued ever more of him.
I'm guessing you had in run in with an "Anarcho"-Capitalist. They're a deluded bunch.
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Oh, I have had many and like most extremist ideologists they tend to devolve to ad hominem attacks. I am wary of anyone who identifies with ideology whether it be religious or political. I would rather discuss ideas over ideologies. I became intrigued by Bakunin when I heard Chris Hedges speak of him and reference the "sublime madness" of the revolutionary mind. After listening to this reading I am going to be checking out more of him. It seems to me, so please correct me if I am wrong, but these early anarchists were very similar to communists and not the totalitarian communists, but true communists.
@Dave you may think there is a significant difference between the two but there isn't. But such is the irrationality of an ideologue who self identifies with an ideology. Anarchists are hilarious. Self identifying with an ideology of no rulers, anarchists submit themselves to the rule of anarchy.
Ancaps and their " philosophy" are so tragically stupid I have a hard time feeling anything but a sort of comic pity. They have not put any thought into what they claim to believe. I mean none.
@@daemonnicethe main split came at the first international. Marx and his crew barely recognized the farmer as a necessary worker. The mono-focused on the bright shiny idea that only through violent deadly revolution by the urban proletariat against the bourgeois. Kropotkin saw it so clearly. Nobody loses anything other than unjust power over others. Everything anyone will ever need has already been built. All the clothes, household goods vehicles and homes are sitting empty and unused merely waiting on someone to pay for it. The ones who own the world in no way need that won't notice it one way or another. The money exists only as marks on paper to them.
@7:04 minimum wage
Amazing amazing.