Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed this. I’ve just upgraded from a Rega P3. I looked at Linn and VPI, but went with the P8 and a Dynavector 10x5MKII cart and am very happy with the decision. I’m based in the UK at the moment, and so the prices on the Rega higher end tables is very competitive. Anyway, really love the look of the Pure Fidelity - it looks to be a beautiful piece of engineering and no doubt sounds incredible. Thanks again for the videos.
I’ve been doing this for 30 years... you are absolutely right that vintage TTs are not good value anymore. Any Pioneer or Marantz from the 70s was never a top end turntable and shouldn’t be worth more then a few hundred. Seeing them go for $800+ now is nuts. Even Thorens TD125 with an SME arm is maybe a decent value at $600 but people are now asking $2000 for that setup. And then there’s the Garrard 301... I had 3 of them in the 90s and they were cool to find for $100, nice to sell for $600 but not worth $3000 they go for now... I don’t care who rebuilt it or what special plinth it is in, for that money the new table you bought is way better.
I used to have a Guy Adams Voyd 3 motor TT with SME V Arm carrying a Dynavector XX-1L cartridge fronting an all Quad Audio system. Each of those parts of the vyniI front end would cost more than most people's entire system sold it off with the LPs when as I got older I could no longer tell the difference between it and CDs.
Nice to hear your quest 1978 Pioneer? 1982 Bang and Olufsen 1700, 2000 Nottingham, 2006 Galibier Gavia (for life) Recently put together a second table Thorens TD125 to utilize with a mm preamp. I have a Project George Harrison special still boxed for my son when he wants it
The Pioneer PL-71 is a real wood veneer turntable. It is the fully manual contemporary of the PL-530. The new TT is very interesting. I do love delrin. It has many useful and practical properties.
That's why I love this channel, it's all about the sound! I got a "fluance RT84" on the way, I hope it's good sound for the $$$$! Not quite audiophile grade, but I can "soup it up" a bit!
An audiophile is anyone who is passionate about sound quality. No matter the level of gear or the price, if you are interested in how something sounds and how to make your system sound its best, you are an audiophile! Congrats on the new table!
Really fun video and a great topic in this one! I think it’s funny how you remember the prices that you payed for those old turntables. I’ve purchased so much used audio (and camera) gear over the years I think my brain flushes away any and all recollection of how much any particular item cost me as a self defense mechanism. Looking forward to your next video!
Great video. Just started doing Videos for the Vinyl Community. Got back into vinyl to celebrate turning 50 and did it in style with a Rega P3. Very very happy with this table. Tons of upgrades, but you're right about the light weight plinth. Tried adding the Micheal Lim suspended sub chassis. .... Didn't go well. Had to remove it, but was interentesing to check it out. Added aluminum feet was a plus, and had the tonearm rewired so could run 1877 Phono Zivafino Tonearm cables with a proper ground system. Recently started going down the Hifi fuse rabbit hole for the receiver. The results were surprising good enough that I m looking to upgrade the fuse's for the Rega and phono preamp in the future. I also replaeced the Rega's wall wart power supply with indenpented transformer... big difference in sound staging and separation. Anyways, enjoyed your video !!!
Wow, you’re getting very technical, way more intense than I got with my Rega but good for you. Have you thought about or experimented with wall mounting? I know a lot of rega users swear by that method.
@@poetryonplastic No, never did the wall mount. Noticed the owners manual mentions it. I built a Turntable stand on isolation spikes, but also, I tend to think of the stylus almost like a guitar pickup. They act the same to my way of thinking. That is why I made this stand out of tonal woods for guitar. All three shelves are actually guitar body blanks of Black Limba wood. and the side pillars are made from Tiger Maple that are the left over blunt stock ends of baseball bats made in St. Louis. I recently did a video on it. Very proud of the Turntable stand and how it turned out. Little to no noise floor at high volume, can Can crank up the Marantz 2245 to 7 or 8 without jumping the needle any. Pretty sweet.
Great turntable, I am sure it will do a great job playing classical music. I hope you enjoy it and hopefully someday I will be able to afford one for my system. I never heard of Pure Fidelity, but I am now checking it out. Looks very solidly built, I own quite a few classical music albums.
Great video! Love the new TT. I am really interested in your upcoming video on your whole stereo setup, specially your thought on the R3 as I have been planning on buying them this year ; ) Cheers!
Well done !!! Curious if the Pure Fidelity Horizon is still your go-to TT today ???? I too am I in the quest for my 'forever' turntable and thought I had it with then Planar10 but the cartridge died within 30 days so I am still seeking.
Still have my Project Debut Carbon upgraded with a Ortofon Blue. The one I really am lusting for is VPI Scout. Just a bit out of my price range...for now.
Any consideration for doing a video on Reel-to-Reel? I recently picked up a player from my dad and have started to dabble on eBay. Your videos on classical records were invaluable to me when I started.
I own 4 r2r tapes and a vintage akai deck, but I'm no expert. My experience has been that R2R can sound fantastic (at higher speeds, not the 4ips tapes), but the tapes are incredibly expensive and playing them is a big hassle. But man, my tape copy of Iron Butterfly's Metamorphosis sounds out of this world.
Now that looks like a solid table, and that tonearm, wow. I have the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, I am using an acrylic platter, along with the aluminium sub-platter and have also changed the cart to a 2M Blue in stead of the stock red. It sounds pretty good, but I also am looking at what my next step would be, was looking at either the Rega 3 or the Pro-Ject Classic, but then thinking do I make a bigger jump than that? Decisions, decisions. Cheers and enjoy the new table. Dean
The Rega P3 or P6 would definitely be a huge step up from the Debut. I went from a Debut to a P3, although I eventually upgraded it into basically a P6. The differences were enormous. Best of luck down your upgrade path!
Hey Micheal! Any reason you didn't continue up the VPI line? I remember way back when you had the scout. Curious about the Prime 21 as I've never heard one of their tables.
I've currently got the Prime 21 in for a review that will go up on Audiophilia later this summer. Needless to say I do like VPI tables and I think they represent very good value, but as a reviewer you get a chance to try more "off the beaten path" gear that you normally wouldn't be exposed to. VPI tables are great which is why so many people have them, but small brands like Pure Fidelity are a unique community and I have to say there is something kind of cool about that.
Hello Michael, greetings from sunny Malta! I am so glad to see that you have got such a high end turntable, if it plays like it looks then you are in for some wonderful hearing sessions, I wonder how the classical recordings with the full orchestra will sound ! Congratulations and enjoy!
I had a debut carbon and sold it to a friend, currently have a vpi traveler gen 1 in my mcintosh/b&w system and pro-ject xpression in basement system. this table looks interesting but would only consider if an authorized dealer is in my area balto/dc/philly.
Unfortunately the only ones on the east coast are in NH and North Carolina. But once trade shows resume I’m sure they will make an appearance on the show tour.
Congratulations on the new table. It looks just incredible. I like that arm design as well as the weighty platter and that solid plynth and base. I've been a DynaVector fan since their first offerings in the late 70's-early 80's. That's one hell of a good vinyl front-end you've got there now. Complimenti! Best regards from Italia.
What a surprise. I was so sure you were keeping the VPI on the right side. But this is even more amazing. I am really happy for you. The cartridge you are using on it right now is the Dynavector 20X2, am I right? That’s on my shortlist for giving it a listen at my local dealership
Yes, mine is the 20x2H but if you have an MC phono stage I would highly recommend the low version. Maybe a Phasemation or Allnic will be in the cards someday, but for now the Dynavector is doing very well.
That’s a Beautiful table! Why don’t hi end turntables have dust covers? Doesn’t dust settle on it and the records when you’re playing them? I’ve got the same pro ject you did but upgraded to 2m blu and acrylic platter mat. Sansui au 4900 amp.
Well I think the practical reason most high end turntables don't have built in dust covers is that it can mess with the acoustics of the design. Even though most Rega tables come with dust covers, they are meant to be played with the dust cover removed. What I do not understand myself is why these damn things are so expensive. Almost every acrylic tabletop dust cover is $250-350, whether its made by a company or by a private machiner. I've talked to TT makers that complain their wholesale cost for these covers can be like $200! Is machining acrylic really that costly/difficult or is there some club of dust cover makers that are all in on this as a conspiracy?
Hi Michael. Congrats on the new turntable. If it sounds as good as it looks I’m sure it will thrill you a very long time. The Pure Fidelity is something for me to aspire to down the road... For now I plan on upgrading to your former table; the Rega Planar 3. You mentioned you’d fitted it with many carts over the years and I’m wondering if you’d share a few of your faves on it? Also, did you adjust VTA via shims or just spin with it as is? Thanks for the informative and entertaining content.
I used my Dynavector 20x2 on the P3 with one 2mm shim. However, if I were buying a P3 new I would personally get it with the Rega Ania cart pre-installed (you save a good bit of money that way and you get a great MC cart to boot). The arm on the P3 can handle some very serious carts.
Thanks for this review of your beautiful turntable. I own a VPI Prime and have a similar rack as yours. I am having vibration control issues (If I tap on rack top, it is audible through my stylus.) Does your aluminum sub chassis eliminate that issue? Thanks again!
Well first off, just because you can tap and make a sound on the top of that rack, doesn't mean vibrations from the floor are getting in. The nice thing about these affordable VTI racks is that the metal frame isolates floor vibrations fairly well (more if you fill them with sand). But getting to your point, yes I do think the Pure Fidelity chassis with the IsoAcoustics GIA feet on it isolates a lot better than most TT feet. I'm currently reviewing the new VPI Prime 21, and I can't really comment until that review is out, but look for comments about the isolation changes they've made in the new model when that review drops over at Audiophilia.
@@poetryonplastic Many thanks. Yeah, I wasn't very clear. Along with the "tap test", if I play my system at a moderate level, the vibrations will send my turntable in a feedback loop, (which happens to be the same tone as when I tap the shelf.) If I place my hand on the shelf, the feedback stops. I should try filling the posts with sand, and perhaps add a platform with GIA feet. I look forward to your Prime 21 review.
Great video. I respect your opinions on audio. Currently I have a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with a Ortofon Blue cart. Thinking of upgrading to a Rega 6. Thoughts?
Hi Rick, I think the P6 is a great table, my P3 with all the upgrades was essentially a P6 minus the extra bottom brace and better platter. It would definitely be a large step up from the Pro-Ject, and it's a turntable I could easily live with for a long time. I would however highly recommend getting it with the Rega Ania cart instead of the Exact. With that combo, you can pair the P6 with some seriously good phono stages and amps and it won't blush.
Is my personal turntable for sale? No. And every other table mentioned in this video is long gone. However if you are interested in purchasing a Pure Fidelity turntable you can go to their website and find a dealer, or if outside of North America perhaps you can contact Pure Fidelity and see if they're able to ship overseas.
Interesting journey. A wonderful new turntable. But you are fooling yourself about not buying another turntable, ever, It is a sickness, believe you me, but a rather interesting one
Congratulations on the new arrival, but aren’t you pretty young to declare it your “last turntable”? Let’s see how you’re doing in 50 years. I’m pretty sure the store you couldn’t remember is In Living Stereo.
Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed this.
I’ve just upgraded from a Rega P3. I looked at Linn and VPI, but went with the P8 and a Dynavector 10x5MKII cart and am very happy with the decision. I’m based in the UK at the moment, and so the prices on the Rega higher end tables is very competitive. Anyway, really love the look of the Pure Fidelity - it looks to be a beautiful piece of engineering and no doubt sounds incredible. Thanks again for the videos.
I’ve been doing this for 30 years... you are absolutely right that vintage TTs are not good value anymore. Any Pioneer or Marantz from the 70s was never a top end turntable and shouldn’t be worth more then a few hundred. Seeing them go for $800+ now is nuts. Even Thorens TD125 with an SME arm is maybe a decent value at $600 but people are now asking $2000 for that setup. And then there’s the Garrard 301... I had 3 of them in the 90s and they were cool to find for $100, nice to sell for $600 but not worth $3000 they go for now... I don’t care who rebuilt it or what special plinth it is in, for that money the new table you bought is way better.
I used to have a Guy Adams Voyd 3 motor TT with SME V Arm carrying a Dynavector XX-1L cartridge fronting an all Quad Audio system. Each of those parts of the vyniI front end would cost more than most people's entire system sold it off with the LPs when as I got older I could no longer tell the difference between it and CDs.
Nice to hear your quest
1978 Pioneer? 1982 Bang and Olufsen 1700, 2000 Nottingham, 2006 Galibier Gavia (for life)
Recently put together a second table Thorens TD125 to utilize with a mm preamp. I have a Project George Harrison special still boxed for my son when he wants it
The Pioneer PL-71 is a real wood veneer turntable. It is the fully manual contemporary of the PL-530.
The new TT is very interesting. I do love delrin. It has many useful and practical properties.
@Maddox Kyree Flixzone for the hardcorepron!
glad you found a turntable you love the look of..i still think its the stylus then cart. with turntable doing nothing to the sound..
Congratulations Michael on the new turntable! Absolutely beautiful and sure it sounds great. And thanks for the link to the Uberlight.
That's why I love this channel, it's all about the sound! I got a "fluance RT84" on the way, I hope it's good sound for the $$$$! Not quite audiophile grade, but I can "soup it up" a bit!
An audiophile is anyone who is passionate about sound quality. No matter the level of gear or the price, if you are interested in how something sounds and how to make your system sound its best, you are an audiophile! Congrats on the new table!
@@poetryonplastic thanks bro!😁
@@analoguecity3454 happy listening and love from Scotland 🏴.
Stay safe.
Mij 🏴 ☺
I have wanted the new VPI Prime 21+ for a while now maybe someday i can wait .
It looks like a nice turntable you got anyways .
Looks gorgeous. Can’t wait to hear some drops. Congrats, MJ!
Congrats with the new table, man - love the wood finish!
That new turntable is sweet! I bet it sounds fantastic!
Really fun video and a great topic in this one! I think it’s funny how you remember the prices that you payed for those old turntables. I’ve purchased so much used audio (and camera) gear over the years I think my brain flushes away any and all recollection of how much any particular item cost me as a self defense mechanism. Looking forward to your next video!
Great video. Just started doing Videos for the Vinyl Community. Got back into vinyl to celebrate turning 50 and did it in style with a Rega P3. Very very happy with this table.
Tons of upgrades, but you're right about the light weight plinth. Tried adding the Micheal Lim suspended sub chassis. .... Didn't go well. Had to remove it, but was interentesing to check it out.
Added aluminum feet was a plus, and had the tonearm rewired so could run 1877 Phono Zivafino Tonearm cables with a proper ground system.
Recently started going down the Hifi fuse rabbit hole for the receiver.
The results were surprising good enough that I m looking to upgrade the fuse's for the Rega and phono preamp in the future.
I also replaeced the Rega's wall wart power supply with indenpented transformer... big difference in sound staging and separation.
Anyways, enjoyed your video !!!
Wow, you’re getting very technical, way more intense than I got with my Rega but good for you. Have you thought about or experimented with wall mounting? I know a lot of rega users swear by that method.
@@poetryonplastic No, never did the wall mount. Noticed the owners manual mentions it.
I built a Turntable stand on isolation spikes, but also, I tend to think of the stylus almost like a guitar pickup.
They act the same to my way of thinking. That is why I made this stand out of tonal woods for guitar.
All three shelves are actually guitar body blanks of Black Limba wood. and the side pillars are made from Tiger Maple that are the left over blunt stock ends of baseball bats made in St. Louis.
I recently did a video on it.
Very proud of the Turntable stand and how it turned out.
Little to no noise floor at high volume, can Can crank up the Marantz 2245 to 7 or 8 without jumping the needle any.
Pretty sweet.
Also, I like to keep the table low to the ground. for a lower center of gravity. Much much better !!
Congrats on your new table. The arm assembly is gorgeous.
Michael beautiful new turntable that plinth looks mind blowing and killer tone arm very nice acquisition .
In Living Stereo on 2 Great Jones St. in NYC
Great turntable, I am sure it will do a great job playing classical music. I hope you enjoy it and hopefully someday I will be able to afford one for my system. I never heard of Pure Fidelity, but I am now checking it out. Looks very solidly built, I own quite a few classical music albums.
What a interesting video and that new turntable looks beautiful 🤩 and I bet it also sounds as good ✌🏼
Great video. Enjoyed the tales of the turntable. Thank you. Peace love and rock and roll ✌️
Beautiful turntable!
I still regret selling my VPI Scout...Can't wait for the equipment update.
Great video! Love the new TT. I am really interested in your upcoming video on your whole stereo setup, specially your thought on the R3 as I have been planning on buying them this year ; ) Cheers!
Wow Michael that is one gorgeous turn table, must sound amazing. congratulations My friend, Enjoy! 😃
Thanks Ron, hope you're well!
i had a pair of Boston Acoustics A-40[wish they still worked]
Bostons have always been very good sounding to me, especially considering the low prices they go for used.
That is a great looking turntable and a great idea for a video, congratulations!
Well done !!! Curious if the Pure Fidelity Horizon is still your go-to TT today ???? I too am I in the quest for my 'forever' turntable and thought I had it with then Planar10 but the cartridge died within 30 days so I am still seeking.
Was it on Bleeker?
Still have my Project Debut Carbon upgraded with a Ortofon Blue. The one I really am lusting for is VPI Scout. Just a bit out of my price range...for now.
Any consideration for doing a video on Reel-to-Reel? I recently picked up a player from my dad and have started to dabble on eBay. Your videos on classical records were invaluable to me when I started.
I own 4 r2r tapes and a vintage akai deck, but I'm no expert. My experience has been that R2R can sound fantastic (at higher speeds, not the 4ips tapes), but the tapes are incredibly expensive and playing them is a big hassle. But man, my tape copy of Iron Butterfly's Metamorphosis sounds out of this world.
Now that looks like a solid table, and that tonearm, wow.
I have the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon, I am using an acrylic platter, along with the aluminium sub-platter and have also changed the cart to a 2M Blue in stead of the stock red. It sounds pretty good, but I also am looking at what my next step would be, was looking at either the Rega 3 or the Pro-Ject Classic, but then thinking do I make a bigger jump than that? Decisions, decisions.
Cheers and enjoy the new table.
Dean
The Rega P3 or P6 would definitely be a huge step up from the Debut. I went from a Debut to a P3, although I eventually upgraded it into basically a P6. The differences were enormous. Best of luck down your upgrade path!
Hey Micheal! Any reason you didn't continue up the VPI line? I remember way back when you had the scout. Curious about the Prime 21 as I've never heard one of their tables.
I've currently got the Prime 21 in for a review that will go up on Audiophilia later this summer. Needless to say I do like VPI tables and I think they represent very good value, but as a reviewer you get a chance to try more "off the beaten path" gear that you normally wouldn't be exposed to. VPI tables are great which is why so many people have them, but small brands like Pure Fidelity are a unique community and I have to say there is something kind of cool about that.
Hello Michael, greetings from sunny Malta! I am so glad to see that you have got such a high end turntable, if it plays like it looks then you are in for some wonderful hearing sessions, I wonder how the classical recordings with the full orchestra will sound ! Congratulations and enjoy!
It is VERY good with classical, really good clear instrumental rendering in the hall.
I had a debut carbon and sold it to a friend, currently have a vpi traveler gen 1 in my mcintosh/b&w system and pro-ject xpression in basement system. this table looks interesting but would only consider if an authorized dealer is in my area balto/dc/philly.
Unfortunately the only ones on the east coast are in NH and North Carolina. But once trade shows resume I’m sure they will make an appearance on the show tour.
Wow class table congrats.
Hhahah! small world! so if you were in MTL, that vintage audio guy with stuff everywhere was Carlo right???
Congratulations on the new table. It looks just incredible. I like that arm design as well as the weighty platter and that solid plynth and base. I've been a DynaVector fan since their first offerings in the late 70's-early 80's. That's one hell of a good vinyl front-end you've got there now. Complimenti! Best regards from Italia.
What a surprise. I was so sure you were keeping the VPI on the right side. But this is even more amazing. I am really happy for you.
The cartridge you are using on it right now is the Dynavector 20X2, am I right? That’s on my shortlist for giving it a listen at my local dealership
Yes, mine is the 20x2H but if you have an MC phono stage I would highly recommend the low version. Maybe a Phasemation or Allnic will be in the cards someday, but for now the Dynavector is doing very well.
Congratulations about the new turntable ! Looks mighty pretty! A quick question. How do you feel about roksan radius 7 turntable?
Never heard any Roksan product so I can't comment, but the design does look very interesting!
That’s a Beautiful table! Why don’t hi end turntables have dust covers? Doesn’t dust settle on it and the records when you’re playing them? I’ve got the same pro ject you did but upgraded to 2m blu and acrylic platter mat. Sansui au 4900 amp.
Well I think the practical reason most high end turntables don't have built in dust covers is that it can mess with the acoustics of the design. Even though most Rega tables come with dust covers, they are meant to be played with the dust cover removed. What I do not understand myself is why these damn things are so expensive. Almost every acrylic tabletop dust cover is $250-350, whether its made by a company or by a private machiner. I've talked to TT makers that complain their wholesale cost for these covers can be like $200! Is machining acrylic really that costly/difficult or is there some club of dust cover makers that are all in on this as a conspiracy?
Hi Michael - We assume you are in "home stretch" with your schooling this month.
Hi Mark, I'm still plugging away unfortunately. I will be sure to make an announcement when I'm finally in the home stretch.
Hi Michael. Congrats on the new turntable. If it sounds as good as it looks I’m sure it will thrill you a very long time. The Pure Fidelity is something for me to aspire to down the road... For now I plan on upgrading to your former table; the Rega Planar 3. You mentioned you’d fitted it with many carts over the years and I’m wondering if you’d share a few of your faves on it? Also, did you adjust VTA via shims or just spin with it as is? Thanks for the informative and entertaining content.
I used my Dynavector 20x2 on the P3 with one 2mm shim. However, if I were buying a P3 new I would personally get it with the Rega Ania cart pre-installed (you save a good bit of money that way and you get a great MC cart to boot). The arm on the P3 can handle some very serious carts.
@@poetryonplastic Thanks Michael. Appreciate your thoughts. 👍🏻
Thanks for this review of your beautiful turntable. I own a VPI Prime and have a similar rack as yours. I am having vibration control issues (If I tap on rack top, it is audible through my stylus.) Does your aluminum sub chassis eliminate that issue? Thanks again!
Well first off, just because you can tap and make a sound on the top of that rack, doesn't mean vibrations from the floor are getting in. The nice thing about these affordable VTI racks is that the metal frame isolates floor vibrations fairly well (more if you fill them with sand).
But getting to your point, yes I do think the Pure Fidelity chassis with the IsoAcoustics GIA feet on it isolates a lot better than most TT feet. I'm currently reviewing the new VPI Prime 21, and I can't really comment until that review is out, but look for comments about the isolation changes they've made in the new model when that review drops over at Audiophilia.
@@poetryonplastic Many thanks. Yeah, I wasn't very clear. Along with the "tap test", if I play my system at a moderate level, the vibrations will send my turntable in a feedback loop, (which happens to be the same tone as when I tap the shelf.) If I place my hand on the shelf, the feedback stops. I should try filling the posts with sand, and perhaps add a platform with GIA feet. I look forward to your Prime 21 review.
@@nickdemayo8209 I should say, with my VPI scout, I had success with the Gingko Cloud platforms!
Great video. I respect your opinions on audio. Currently I have a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon with a Ortofon Blue cart. Thinking of upgrading to a Rega 6. Thoughts?
Hi Rick, I think the P6 is a great table, my P3 with all the upgrades was essentially a P6 minus the extra bottom brace and better platter. It would definitely be a large step up from the Pro-Ject, and it's a turntable I could easily live with for a long time. I would however highly recommend getting it with the Rega Ania cart instead of the Exact. With that combo, you can pair the P6 with some seriously good phono stages and amps and it won't blush.
@@poetryonplastic Thanks for your feedback. The cartridge was my next question. I have been debating that as well. Greatly appreciated, Michael. ✌️
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Was the shop in NYC In Living Stereo?
Yes!
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Is it for sale
Is my personal turntable for sale? No. And every other table mentioned in this video is long gone. However if you are interested in purchasing a Pure Fidelity turntable you can go to their website and find a dealer, or if outside of North America perhaps you can contact Pure Fidelity and see if they're able to ship overseas.
Interesting journey. A wonderful new turntable. But you are fooling yourself about not buying another turntable, ever, It is a sickness, believe you me, but a rather interesting one
Congratulations on the new arrival, but aren’t you pretty young to declare it your “last turntable”? Let’s see how you’re doing in 50 years. I’m pretty sure the store you couldn’t remember is In Living Stereo.
Yes correct, wonderful little store. If I were typing, "last" turntable would definitely be in quotes :)
Boys need toys :)