Aero SCIENCE! Are BIG WINGS Worth The Money?! // Nürburgring
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro
01:00 Testing Explained
02:11 Aero Effects Summarized
04:45 Original Track Day Intro
06:24 NO WING, TC ON
14:39 NO WING, TC OFF
18:27 NO WING, Impressions
19:10 VA320 Street, TC ON
27:19 VA320 Street, TC OFF
35:26 VA320 Street, Impressions
36:10 VA320 Track, TC ON
44:27 VA320 Track, TC OFF
52:18 Final Impressions
54:31 Teaser with Lapo - Auta a dopravní prostředky
VA Street Wing explained more in detail: czcams.com/video/Kyo59UweI8s/video.html
Hambini is a professional aerospace engineer who is also a famous youtuber. (yes bikes are his pastime but aerospace engineering….) I bet if you contact him he would help..??? worth a try!!
@@SprayIgniteBoom
At the start of the video you showed that the 320mm SE wing produced 116kg of downforce at 100kph but only 256kg of downforce at 300kph. That implies that the CL of the wing is basically quartered at 300kph. While the actual performance of the wing is obviously not going to scale perfectly with the lift equation, this relative loss in performance at higher velocities seem quite a lot compared to the dual element model that you showed, as well as wings from other brands like APR Racing and 9 Lives. Can you comment on this?
Can we see the CFD please, it would be very interesting to see your simulations.
That 49:40 to 50:00 caused me brain lag . Wait hold on how much that Mercedes wagon horse power . Ohhh is that BMW 140i with a race number on the left glass . How is it slow 😂 wait the pov from ghost rider driving 140i has like 800+ horse power that car can't be that slow
"WHAT A MACHIIIIIIINNNNEEE" - Jeremy Clarkson
"I love it when a plan comes together." - Hannibal Smith.
Using traction control as a testing metric is kinda genius honestly
And if TC no longer comes on, it means you can increase power at that RPM in that gear until it starts coming on again. Then you know you're traction-limited again! Rinse and repeat. :D
i hope that vulcan alpha is going to be a world-wide track body kit company. the biggest in the world. you guys deserve it really.
250 in Foxhole jeez
I was impressed with the 140mph at the top of swedish cross! Impressive braking too 😁
@@kgrimm5576 could've definitely gone way faster also!
46:31 225 at schwedenkreuz is crazy!!! Same speed as a porsche 992 gt3 rs
49:50 merc flexed his horsepower but the first corner and he is totally lost💀☠️
Well said. Skill and aero big time
That was all the drivers he passed. I swear they were thinking they were keeping up for a bit until he flew passed and they realised they were just slowing him right down
49:55 The white Merc came closer pretty quick, and then there was a corner and you were just gone.
I also loved the section after youtube corner when the black beamer quickly disappeared as well.
isn't that a merc? ^^
@@ITzP0olT1m3 My bad. You are correct.
That looks like an AMAZING track car, probably not extremely expensive. And a lot of fun.
just the wing is 7k, completely striped down interior and im not sure but it looks like some team schirmer mods, i wouldn't say its an "affordable" build, its an amazing one tho, but expensive af
You richer than rich ? Can buy a bugatti ? Yes than this is cheap.
@@kaakster1 bugattis aren't typically found on the track mate
@@kaakster1Bro, I mean it’s not gt3 expensive. An F1 car is 15 mil. I think this is way more affordable
@@DavidMoreira4Yeah, I just meant it probably isn’t gt3 or gt4 expensive😊
Only the rear wings & it's already that good? Now imagine it has matching front splitter from Vulcan-Alpha, too!
On a RWD of course adding weight on the axle help a lot, but I guess with a proper flat floor and diffuser they can get a similar result.
@@p4olo537 I could be wrong, but I believe flat floor & rear diffuser only effective when the car is close to the ground, and less effective when road is bumpy. At least that's what I understand due to why Peugeot 9X8 wasn't competitive.
@@p4olo537 Well, a front splitter would help the understeer aswell so it would make it even better...
@@RDSAlphard Correct, and it can also be extremely difficult to install on something that needs to be street legal because you need to get rid of the resonator to make space for the diffuser, or extend it past the rear of the car which means it would block the exhausts. Not impossible for sure, but it's a LOT easier to get the downforce from a wing in free air.
A splitter as you say would help to balance the car but something that's effective is going to be difficult to install because you would need a front diffuser, and to make that work you need to vent it into and out of the wheel wells which again, involves quite a lot of body work. Effective front splitters are also going to have the issue of being affected by bumps in the road and changes in ride height, both of which make it difficult to work on a road car.
I guess it turns then from a Beast into a Weapon
15:20 that guy on e36 is mind blowingly fast🔥🔥🔥
🙌
Insane fast
He absolutly smashed it
The driver of the e36 on the first laps and the one in the white m2 are driving insane 🔥
🙌
the difference in the cars behavior was really wild to see. and to be able to notice how much a difference the wings made and as you added the full track wing, the corner speeds were insane.
job well done Vulcan Alpha
I am so jealous, in a positive way, you are creating a business around your passion. Not many will understand how amazing this feels. CONGRATS!
The most impressive mod of this car is the capability of running with no fuel at all
@4:45 always bring your wingman
Misha!!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE build a track car. Watching you crush these laps was amazing. You need your own development M2 so you can go 10 10ths. Your reactions were priceless. Congratulations on your achievements! I can't wait to see what you do with the front!
Actually great idea,Vulcan alpha m2 with full aero kit,you can use it on cars shows and for videos,promotion your company
@@pewpaw9379 Yes it is a good idea. I dont know if they will do this because its also very expensive or maybe BMW wants to talk with Vulcan Alpha to help ? 😉 I also think it will get more attention outside of CZcams for Vulcan Alpha.
There is the speedster. Which will probably be crazy once completed
27:34 the wing whistling in happiness
Congrats Vulcan Alpha.
The difference is crazy, all that work really paid off. I hope this becomes a very popular wing because it sure is worth using
The aero included... That thing is an absolute beast on the ring.
Misha plz let the Engineer speaks especially in Yesterday's video! or in the 2nd channel! besides that very informative & detailed video, great products everything working as it should
congratulations! keep it up.
Absolutly, you are right. There ar more video's that I think Misha, Misha, you don't understand what you are doing. Misha you don't see it but its there and......
I have an old 280hp Audi TT with bucket seats and no carpets (+coilovers, brembo brakes, lightweight wheels) just for occasional trackdays. I see other people in the same car with giant wings fitted. However, I'm honestly not sure I ever get fast enough to properly use or activate downforce. My nearest track is pretty small and I only hit about 180kmh at the end of the main straight, the fastest corner is more like 120kmh and the rest of the track is slower than that.
Excellent video today misha. Normally a bonus when you do two laps but today we are treat to six! Both wings with traction control off looked like it was handling better. Car sounded wicked aswell! 👌🏻
Best video ever Misha. Very well done. Can’t wait to see how one of these might fit my F80.
Underrated features: modularity, inserts for alignment, and DAT TRUNK BRACE BAYBEE! Would it be possible in the future to build full CF trunk lids with those braces and mounting points already molded into them? That way the force from the uprights could be more easily spread across the entire lid!
More than happy to watch 1 hour long videos. Super happy for you guys and the results speak for themselves. I think this is the fastest I've seen you drive Misha! Congratulations Vulcan Alpha, you have achieved it! Bravo!! 💪
Sorry for not waiting for you! 😅
I saw the wing on the track day, looks amazing 😍
i was blown away by the speeds that your car has EVERYWHERE. Subscribing to you of course to follow your journey !
Congrats to the team! nice work
Congratulations and BEST wishes, Misha!!! Awesome work together with that smart aero guy. RESPECT!
Aero ftw! Looking forward to the next video with front splitter installed as well.
With the Big Wing, it corners like on rails at those insane speeds!. Scary to watch even as we know your corner speeds. COngrats, this Wing is Superb!. Wish you all the success. You got a hell of an Aero engineer there.
Now I want to see a comparison with the Big wing vs Big wing+drs!
never seen misha have so much fun! need more laps like this. 50:05 "Holy SHIT, Holy SHIT!"
Amasing job Misha, happy to see the F87 platform at is full potential.
this video remined me of a certain genre in gaming yt videos like > Cyberpunk 2077 RTX 4090 TESTED ALL RESOLUTION > RTX ON > RTX OFF
Congratulations Vulcan Alpha 🎉🎉. A lot of time, blood, sweat and tears but it was very worth it. The smiles tell the story.
Misha, you need too add a new emoji specific for Vulcan Alpha. Maybe the logo and a big wing!!!
Fantastic to see! Hope your business goes from strength to strength, you all deserve it. Love your commitment to quality.
OHHHH my GOD.... i really wanna see more of this....
This was clearly insane... if in a M2 can bring tears, imagine what this guys can do to your pocket rocket for example.... the people's car... Surprises are made to smile, but AERO are made to brings your smiling tears to another dimension...
LET's have it V.A. ...
Over here in Au, cops are attracted to cars with non standard wings. Your street legal wing looks a bit daggy and imo doesnt enhance the look of the car when going to car meets but i get it and like the way you can extend it for track days so it's functiinal. I think rhe ideal wing is one that looks factory and cool for cruising the streets then can be extended for functional track days. An example of a wing I'd buy is one that can be mounted to the factory mounts on my Evo for track days then taken off to go back to oem wing for road driving to look cool.
This is exactly the setup I have on my supra, apr gtc300 that bolts on for trackdays, then back to the factory spoiler after
Perfect for coffee cups and sandwiches, lunch time in the paddock.
As you mentioned, i think its important to tell that if you apply 200kg downforce on the back you need to increase spring preload or better change springs (because of the dynamic ride height). even you compression damping needs to be adjusted a little bit. (add a few clicks more).
Second of all, i hope you sell a lot of these...🙏
In a more general sense for your channel, this is a fantastic new chapter. The testing and development of new products. Super interesting. Thanks
Congratulations Misha to this wing ❣️
It looks nice and quality 👌🏼
Hope you will sell a ton of aero parts with Vulcan Alpha 🙏🏼😅
Love from Berlin,
Ramsi 🙋🏻♂️
And all this without a drop of fuel! Amazing!!!! 😆👍
imagine how much faster it would be with fuel in the tank 🤯
Big Wang Gang! GZ Misha and Vulcan Alpha!
Well done Misha the speed through the corners with the full wing is amazing....😮
really enjoyed those high downforce laps. Always amazing to see the speed in the corners and cars with more HP quickly getting smaller in the mirror in the corner sections
Love it ! Perfect car with perfect driver !
I love this type of content. We need more things like this !
Greetings from France 😄
AMAZING Team work from you guys Misha. I love it when great minds come together and create something of value in this world. You and Lapo have something great here my friend. You guys are going to sore high in the automotive industry. Fact!!! Keep doing what you are doing. You guys will achieve all you want and more❤
Good video
When I hit Subscribe you screamed out "hell yeah!"
Now just imagine with the full aero kit
it will require better brakes and more powaaah:D
gt3 or higher levels of downforce probably
@@kumchavalcha has pro500r all around, for an n55b an upgraded turbo is necessary to make bigger power but you open up a whole new can of worms trying to balance out power and cooling etc etc
Nice to see all the hard work paying off
Very nice to make it so detailed ❤
What a Video!!!🎉
I'm celebrating it so much!
I am very happy for you and waiting for more inovecions...!!!
The product is impresive and super functional.
This is since...!!!
"Keep driving, disging and racing"...!!!
By the way....i want to join your team.
Maybe you can have a CivilEnginer who have inteersant for the motorspor since a boy, and love for the Nürbungring later.
BRAVO! Awesome work.🍻
So much diference in the wings very nice Misha and lapo, great job !!!
one of my favorite videos in a long time. Gives me vibes from when Mr. Kubica drove the Apex BMW on the ring
Such a perfect job 💣the "Ferrari" guy has a knowlage❤ Keep going. VA will be big name in aero market later 😎
It would be lovely to have some more technical info on the product page. Like, maybe a table of downforce and drag at every possible angle of attack (as far as I've read it's 3 degrees increments until 18 degrees max), using the same sample wing size (that would be lovely to mention too) as the existing downforce numbers. By the looks of it, it seems like the current numbers are taken at around 6-9 degrees angle of attack?
congrats you guys worked hard and it looks like its paying off !
Phenomenal guys, truly an incredible wing!
I wish you all the success!
really nice product and demonstration misha ! love it , i wish i could have somewhere to put one instead of my tacoma lol
We can make it fit🤣
@@mgcharoudin the whole could/should dilemma
that was an absolute joy to watch
Best I've seen so far. Amazing.
Bro, I was going 250 in the foxhole. Holy shit! Mad skills
Very nice. Works very well 😊
Around 7:30 BTG with easy lap is nice. And car with current setup doesn't look too understeery even with big wing.
That last lap with TC off was effing insane!
lap 2 vs lap 6 is absolutely insane
Well done guys, bravo.
Wow seriously that’s a amazing amount of difference outstanding respect and result 🔥🔥🙏🙏
Very interesting Video!
that traction control light is a great way to visualize the traction
Great driving I love this 😎
Impressive corning speed! The last lap was awesome!
Did you do anything for the front? If you are generating more downforce at the back, will it lift the front up?
awesome!
I love your videos!!!!! you are great!
Excellent. So what should someone expect with the full kit on, wing and front splitter? Is there going to be a rear diffuser, too? I wonder what a Team Schirmer M2 can do with it. Finally, though highly improbable, I would have loved to hear what my absolute favourite BMW tuner/race person would say about it. That is Steve Dinan (of Carbahn). Just enjoy your dream coming true. Both of you.
Wing and splitter. Diffuser optional, needs exhaust mod to be functional.
@@mgcharoudincould you please clarify how do you (or any person who buys your products) calculate or decide which angle of attack to use for optimal performance? I suppose it shouldn’t be some random guesses:)
cant wait for the E34 sedan VA wing!! I will get one immediately
Simply Amazing!
so this is M2 GT3 now😅 congrats dudes - job really well done! also insane driving Mischa😊
Gotta love that huge wing 🔥🔥
Does braking performance also improves as now you have more downforce??...ik car mostly uses front brakes but still does it???
Yes
drag is a function of speed and deceleration is direcly proportional to the square of speed. You don't need more downforce on the brakes unless you're locking up. Having a wing has a negligible effect on front brake performance. HTH
Would be sick if you developed an active aero wing for the 992 gt3 and 991 gt3rs
I don't need downforce for my car, but I'd be interested in lift and drag reduction. Doing anything for that too?
looking forward to seeing the tests with wings with DRS
I’m interested in seeing how you guys will perfect the aero balance once you do push the limits. When that happens, my question then will be “How similar or different is the balance when compared to Porsche or Manthey?” (Because I believe that those two are the top two in any order you like😅)
Simply WOW
I need this on the 86 asap good fucking shit lads. Amazing work
I need the big one on my Jimny :)
Thanks, this is what I asked. Great video.
gonna get one for my 2009 diesel focus :)
Nice! i love the big wings cars! Maybe you can try it on a Ford fiesta? with a BIG wing or spoiler!
that e92 on your tail was cool to see
Wings are not legal in my country.
Doesn’t stop people to have e’m though.
Well almost everything is illegal in my country.
Thanks
Portugal 🇵🇹 😂?
@@shykixtm296 no no much much more strict!
@@user-bi5vb2dl5kitaly!
"Well almost everything is illegal in my country".. Sounds like Australia...
@@user-bi5vb2dl5k there prob isn't a country stricter than Portugal, here absolutely nothing except rims (if they are the original size) is legal.