Should A B7 RS4 *REPLACE* My E92 M3...?!
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- čas přidán 12. 01. 2024
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one of the best looking audis ever made. This is a real RS.
Amen hell ya
I have always loved these Audis ! Now I’m in my 40s and financially sound I think I’ll buy one for Sunday sprints . What an engine sound .
Iam 46 had mine 4 yrs Just put kw v3 coils :-) . She is in storage no winter for my baby to beautiful 100% get one one of the best driving sedans ever :-)
same here! Was my dream car 20 years ago and now I could afford it as a weekend fun toy and am really considering it :) This or a 4.2 R8
@@lancegallant3647 @speedsociety9177 I'm currently doing the same. Fell inlove with these when I was 16 and they came out and now I'm about to turn 34 and getting myself one as a birthday present.
Just trying to decide between the wagon or sedan
Right exhaust tip bent, would drive me mad.
trust me, drives mead also therefore the exhaust job is booked 🫡
I'd swap an E92 M3 for one of these any day. Thattttt sound!
hell yes 🙌 unreal cars 🚗
Nice car man, I have one myself. MRC Stage 2, 450 bhp 😊
You’re right about finding a good example. As long as the main jobs (oil cooler, DRC suspension, carbon clean, brakes) etc have been sorted, then they are actually very good cars to run.
thanks bro, that's exactly what I said...
would you actually recommend stage2?? been thinking about it, and would I need to get rid of the 🐈🐈?
big thanks bro
@@rafdrives yeah I’d recommend it for sure it brings them alive. For max power you need to remove the cats they are very restrictive. You’re looking at 450bhp without the cats with a stage 2. The power is all on the sport button too so with sport mode off you wouldn’t know and it’s really civilised but with sport mode pressed it’s crazy. MRC remove the throttle restriction that’s there from factory in the first 3 gears. For me it’s too raspy with full miltek & decat so I’ve just bought resonated centre sections to replace the non res which I hope will make it sound better but won’t impact the power at all
thanks mate, appreciate the response 👍
Do MRC for sure mate!!
100% agreed ❤mine also
Have had an Avant for nearly 10 years, has been an excellent car. Just go in with your eyes open if you do go to look for one.
Great cars!!! Great review Luke; and lovely car Raf 👌👌👌
NOISE! ❤
Sounds unreal 💪🏻😍
Love these motors only thing ive not been keen on is the rear lights. Sounds amazing. P.s sort that right tip out 😅
Really nice motor that difficult decision always loved an RS4👌🏻
B7 RS4 is one of my dream cars.I would love to own one one day. Answer to your question yes I think it should be a replacement for the m3!
Don’t ever sell your R32 for one. Twice the running costs but not twice the car. I was able to own one but still keep my R32 and so glad I did. The RS4 is an animal but the R32 is just special and I enjoy driving them both equally.
Hell ya bud 100% wouldn't sell mine ever :-)
@@JC_46 no I agree, r32 is a forever car for me for sure👍🏻
My avant has been in the garage for 4 weeks getting all of the suspension done, I so can't wait to get it back, it's my daily and it does cost a lot to drive and to fix but every penny you put into this car is reflected in it's value.
Gotta love a manual V8 🔥🔥
Rs4 avant would be the perfect daily 😍
2010 C63? The nastiest soundtrack and presence to match
looking to replace my S3 for one of these,cracking car
it's amazing to see how much the owner still seems to enjoy this beast every day. Tempted to get one even though good ones are still around 40k EUR in Germany nowadays.
Defiantly, until last week I owned the RS4 MRC stage 2, I've owned many BMW's including the m3 range but the RS4 is just a different beast to drive and an absolute pleasure. Sadly I drove into storm water and awaiting the insurance inspection for an outcome but a gorgeous car the RS4
You’re not the Daytona Saloon that drove into meters of water that’s been circulating online are you? 😳
@@JC_46 no no lol this was in Luton it was only 1 ft deep which is why I'm so pissed off
Mine is the rare sprint blue
@@WAYNEMODELBUILDER ah ok, fingers crossed you get it sorted.
Looks good😮💨 Got a Avant version🍻
Absolutely!!
I have this motor in my car and I love tunnels 😂
Damn, I wish I could drive this car in those backroads we took to get to Avebury and Stonehenge. 👍
Nice video. I have a b7 s4 avant in the states and would love an avant rs4
The overrun sound so true, it's amazing hitting the top of 3rd at full throttle but the sound it makes when you come off is even nicer, honestly sounds a bit like a metal guitar. Not sure what they're saying about droning, above 65 it's pure V8 niceness all the time and if you're lucky you might get 28mpg... worth it.
Think an old RS4 will give you the same large bills as the M3 when used as a daily . Just rebuild & tune your S1. With 370-400bhp, 4 wheel drive & manual it will be a great fun daily with lower expense.
Best laugh on CZcams 😂
Adults drive Audis are the best road car
Yep I would
Nice video and an epic car. Just to old to be a worthwhile investment as a daily 😢
My dad had the Avant, our summer holidays were great when we were kids blasting through the black mountains!
What a machine
Buy a V10 Audi. They sound so much better!
Big dawg
Could buy Dale Steel’s shopping trolley.
Avant yes I would
💯 RS4
Better we the avant in my opinion 🤙
wich exhaust system this RS4 is using?
YES!!!
Avant with a tts supercharger and trailer
I had the same B7 Rs4 Sedan, was hijacked at gunpoint in Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦
Just Yes
Get one....its a no brainer tbh🤷🏿..
W204 C63 estate mate
Owned 3x E93 M3.
2 manual and 1 DCT. Did drive them and try to enjoy but two of them were primarily to onsell. They had no character. Super boring and lacklustre in low revs.
A B7 RS4 with a decent exhaust and carbon clean is way better. After owning 300+ cars, that's one of the few cars still sitting in my stable.
Other than the security of four wheel drive what the fundamental difference.
I mean when we're talking about high performance cars that are 15 years old and 100k miles plus aren't these cars going to have expensive mechanical issues, even minior issues are expensive.
Yes you've spent big money on the M3 but imagine starting over with the RS4
this highly depends on the work previously owners did, of these are regularly looked after, things will be ok, although 18 years on the next will never be a selling point, but find one that has been taken care of and you will be good, yes minor work can also be expensive but that's the joy of owning an older performance car
@rafdrives I agree but personally I'd always worry about taking on someone else's car, if they've spent thousands maintaining their older performance car why are they now selling it.
Maybe I'm just overly suspicious for no reason but if I take on a RS4 or M3 of that age I want to know I've had its issue done rather than taking the word of someone else hence my view on going from a m3 spend thousands to then jump to a RS4 and starting over and taking the risk.
Like buying an older house doing up to your satisfaction then selling it to buy another similar house that's been done already but not by yourself.
If you're moving to a completely different car, then I get it but this I don't
There's no logic to HP's question. He just wants it. He wants to experience ownership of the car. But equally he is cautious about cost of ownership as he's not a millionaire. For me, he should do his fact find and jump in one. They are legendary cars and it's definitely one most petrol heads would want on their car CV. Me included.
I had a 2018 c63s amg and a 2019 ZL1 1Le not mentioning the m series bmw as well as the subawuuu's lol this rs4 rain or dry just was planted like a tik.....
B7 all day
Watch evil gt and make your mind up. 😊
seen it too many times 😅
Selling the E92 would be an utter waste of already spent money.
Micheldever Station?🧐
Yes.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
Definitely not
Just got one MRC stage 2 with crackle map with decat exhaust system valves open , makes such a massive difference with the tune, had carbon clean, injector service, full service, fresh brembo front discs with trw pads and few other new parts, saloon FASH! Pearlescent grey low miles!
Have you owned one before? Interested to know what sort of difference the tune makes compared to a standard or slightly modified one. What mileage is it on? Might have seen it for sale as I'm actively looking at the moment!
Yes. The first 3 gears are restricted with the flaps at 5.5k rpm but with the tune they are deflapped so the car can run more power all the way to red line. It’s a massive difference when driving it. Reaches red line a lot quicker. This current one is under 80k miles and will be up for sale soon.
You would be mental to replace the M3 with this.
Lovely car but different levels in my opinion.
Don’t forget the M3 is much newer. Considering Audi released these in 2005, they’re incredibly impressive. BMW went for a V8 in the E92 purely because of this car, to rival it.
Shame you can't have the RS4 with a tow hitch legally. But you can with the softer S4. It's not the same, though.
E92 is a beast of a car if i could keep one i never would sold it
Wow nice rs4.. Not fastest but verry nice to drive, i want one but sad cant afford, so still have to drive my s8 d2 4.2 40v 6 speed, my s8 d2 would be great if have power like rs4 but what you cann do.. And bigest mistake i did when i sold my urs6 2.2t...fully working with chip tuning, launch control. For 2k eur... After this mistake i said i will not make another 1 and not sell s8 d2 6 speed from factory.
Thumbs up 100% Get one for a fun investment they are absolutely 💯 % one of the best sedans ever !!! Love mine will never sell her shes the fockin bomb ! Great video nice Car 🚗 if U ever have any issues with bc coils deff get kwv3 just put a set on mine 👍 game changing suspension ❤
What exhaust system is on this one? Had an AWE Tuning non-res on mine, imported from the US, thing sounded like a nascar 😂
custom stainless steel my brother, straight pipe from cats back
Keep your M3 plenty of jobs is good for content and good for M3 owners new and old or future owners.
Something very special about the last normally aspirated M3 regardless of running cost .
Keep up the great videos 👍
Definitely!!
Interior Carbon fiber panels not OEM!!
In short, no it shouldn't.
I should of got this instead of the e92 m3.
trust me u need a b7
Mate he's got a e92 m3 definitely a step backwards to a b7
@@DaleSteel not really the way the b7 drives is just perfect his m3 is just a money burning machine at this moment
@hxrxxn_ if he did same miles in a b7 he would be even worse off financially
@@DaleSteel not really my dad had a b7 a while ago before his c7 and it was amazing on fuel he dailyd it everyday and not a single problem besides the valves in the exhaust got stuck so which he replaced with milltek decat downpipes and non res exhaust the car drove very beautifully
I'm sold...Audi RS4
View Evil GT series on thier Audi Don't rush in Fella..
They ain’t standard discs! I would think that would be 30-40bhp less than standard! Had to laugh the bit the last owner done bit of a bodge with exhaust with the tip at the angle it at now!!😂 awesome cars long list of things that need attention! You would shit the bed 1st bill that comes your way especially with RS tax!! Also you ain’t getting an R8 for same money
Exactly. Standard discs are drilled brembos. It also won’t be anywhere near standard power without a map. They never came out the factory at 414 so 17 years later with just a carbon clean and flap delete isn’t going to make it have more power than standard.
Need an MRC Stage 2 to bring these alive.
Also you’re right about R8 money idk where they got that from. An RS4 like this on over 100k are worth £15-17k
@@JC_46 usual nonsense just throwing claims out there on CZcams! MRC place to be with one (had an MRC stage 1+ RS6 previously), other good companies out there also right enough but agree completely, need to be tuned to be near standard power with full carbon clean too! For a good low mileage example your into early 20s but there have been doing 12k in some cases….deluded if you think getting an R8 for same money even at early 20s imo! Would love to add a sprint blue alongside my Ara blue RS3 saloon
@@kieran2744yeah I paid £25k for mine but I bought when they were high (they’ve dropped a bit now) and it has a great spec of:
Sub 70k miles
MRC stage 2 (450 bhp)
Kw V3’s
H&r arbs
Full Milltek decat
380mm front, 365mm rear big brake kit
Brand new oil cooler
Carbon clean 1 month before buying
So adding all of that up I thought it was a good buy and it has been excellent. Drives like a proper fast road / track ready RS4. When you consider a lot of them aren’t even making 390bhp it drives how an RS4 should imo. So many sat around the £15-20k price range for sale that need £10k+ throwing at them.
I do love sprint blue but already own an R32 in blue so didn’t want two blue cars 😂
I hope you find a good one if you do decide to get one 👍🏻
Throw a pro charger on this and your flying
If you are considering swap the M3 for something else why not look at a lexus ISF you can never go wrong with Japanese reliability 🇯🇵
Fantastic car but so expensive to keep right ! Not that fast if im honest but drive really nice and top quality finish Loved my saloon until low life scum tried to steal her ,
Would love to see you take a cayman S and tune it, make the outside looks awesome and do something different from the hot hatches
Don't change the wheels, they still look the part
I was going to buy one of these in 2017 but wanted something newer so got a 8V S3 Sportback at that time they were the same price but now I sold the S3 I totally regret my choice. The price of these in Australia are like $38,000 -$60,000 for a good one low kms.
WOW! keep the electric cars!
Gotta review my e92 335d 💨
The b7 rs4 is a crazy car but I don’t think it should replace the e92 you would have 3 all wheel drive cars then and that would be a bit meh
Sounds ... amusing on someone else's car. Not a chance in hell I'd want to live with that. Zero chance any of the tracks around me would allow those dBs. Stock in sport mode is plenty loud for me.
Yes, get an rs4 all day over your m3!! And put a supercharger on it 😊
Nooo e92 m3 is just cooler👑🔥
Hell no!!
This in a wagon has always been my goal car, however that V8 is lots of work and so hard to work on.
find yourself a well looked after one and will be good
plan for big bills along the line to do regardless of things going wrong or not, jist as prevention and things will be good
NO. These are inferior to the M3 as a driving tool and they come with a whole bag of problems just like the M3. If you want year round AWD security then yes.
Shut up you 🔧 lol.
Bro nobody cares
@@Account1746 Did you not read the title?
No ITB’s 👎🏼 won’t ever sound as good as the s65…. Ever 😂
No.
Na m3s are better
Lovely cars- but the M3 sounds sweeter without a doubt
Why the hell not. I have the same car, MRC stage 2 tuned. Goes like stink :)
LEXUS ISF V8 is the best of all between 2008-2013.
Not even close to e92... look at the values they say it all
My uncle had numerous Audis but after so many problems he went to Mercedes amg but worse than Audi for reliability he has now gone to bmw still have some issues but bmw reliability so much better 🇬🇧👍🇬🇧👍 3:07
No one cares
@@philip244 Audi fan boy
@@paulpateman6723does your uncle consent you writing about him on CZcams little boy
@@philip244 I don’t think he would he’s been dead for three years
Great cars but e92 is a far better drivers car and it looks better oh and it’s the last of the real M3’s and it’s the only m3 that’s ever had a V8 do I need to continue……
I've owned an e92 m3, a c63 amg and a b7 rs4, make no mistake all are fantastic cars but for me as a car to use every day that is still fun the rs4 was the car I chose to keep. If you take just the rs4 vs e92 both have id say equal looks, the engines are basically equally as good other than the rs4 feels a bit torquier down low, the rs4 has much better seats, better brakes 8 piston brakes vs 1 piston on the m3, weight wise they are within 10-20kgs of each other depending on where you read. Tech wise they are both a bit outdated and much of a muchness there, manual vs manual the rs4 has a better box and better ratios, the rs4 is great in all weathers whereas the m3 is limited a little in the wet due to being rwd. I will agree though the m3 has the ability to be more fun as it keeps you on your toes being rwd and allows you to play with the rear end which is much harder to do in the audi even with its 60/40 torque split.
All awesome cars and I wouldnt fault anyone going for any of them!
E92 is superior in every way. This would be a step back.
I've owned an e92 m3, a c63 amg and a b7 rs4, make no mistake all are fantastic cars but for me as a car to use every day that is still fun the rs4 was the car I chose to keep. If you take just the rs4 vs e92 both have id say equal looks, the engines are basically equally as good other than the rs4 feels a bit torquier down low, the rs4 has much better seats, better brakes 8 piston brakes vs 1 piston on the m3, weight wise they are within 10-20kgs of each other depending on where you read. Tech wise they are both a bit outdated and much of a muchness there, manual vs manual the rs4 has a better box and better ratios, the rs4 is great in all weathers whereas the m3 is limited a little in the wet due to being rwd. I will agree though the m3 has the ability to be more fun as it keeps you on your toes being rwd and allows you to play with the rear end which is much harder to do in the audi even with its 60/40 torque split.
All awesome cars and I wouldnt fault anyone going for any of them!
@@FIN4LBO55 yet the m3 on top gears track put over 5 seconds on them.looks wise the m3 is way better. I agree the brakes are rubbish but that is nothing on the audis terrible over steer/balance. I have had my m3 5 yrs and there is nothing in this price range that comes anywhere close
@@matthewedwardfield thats a lot of nonsense the rs4 was faster on top gear with a time of 1.25.60 vs the 1.26.50 of the m3 and its faster on the Nürburgring 7.58.00 for the rs4 vs 8.05.00 for the m3.
Times below
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Top_Gear_test_track_Power_Lap_times
@@FIN4LBO55 also your qouteing audi dry lap against the m3 wet lap..this same list shows the saloon m3 beat the audi in the dry. The saloon is heavier than the coupe. The m3 is faster..fact.
the ring times are in the dry and the regular m3 non comp was directly below it in the dry, I do see the e90 saloon was faster on the top gear track by 0.4 of a second which over such a short lap is negligible. The comparison of the nurbugring time and a look at the other lap times at various tracks around the world would be a fairer comparison. Regardless saying the m3 is superior in every way purely because you own one is wrong when you have just been shown many examples where it is not superior in every way.@@matthewedwardfield
Hit up EvilGt and buy their one
no
No.