Something so calming/satisfying about Dr. McGilchrists periodic confirmational "Mmmm"s and "Hmmm"s. It's like therapeutic and sonic little bits of happiness for me. If I knew how to do videos...I would do loops of his sounds over and over... "What about the content of their discussion?" I mean, that was good too, I suppose.
Fascinating! Michael Levin seems to be on the verge of discovering big things and I'm reassured that he is speaking with someone like Iain McGilchrist. Thank you all!
Oh please continue to explore this space!! These are not just important but vital questions for our time. I'm thrilled to see that some are finally questioning the "grabbing and getting" mentality of not only our actions being a (huge) problem, but how it effects the basic assumptions of science itself. I am hugely grateful to Dr. Levin for bringing these "right brain" questions up by means of "left brain" experiments that clearly show the assumptions themselves to be lacking. Arguing with ideas is one thing but arguing with results is another and I am so excited about the questions that are now being opened up to science via all of your work. The world (in my humble opinion) owes you all a debt of gratitude. Thank you!!!
I love these types of talks. You know, I have discovered a way to clear the mind and think MUCH more clearly when I can do it, that is...and that is do a 7 day DRY FAST and see how your body and feelings can change literally over that period of time. It's an immense help for thoughtful processes. Thanks to you all for this offering of wisdom galore.
You are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱
Levin's explanation of the 'free gifts' in biology is brilliant. Watson's bringing natural selection and learning together also profound -- does this allow for 'explorer modes' in evolution? Perhaps able to leap over valleys in the fitness landscape/Levin's morphospace?
I was put on antipsychotics once. I found myself hugely 'bored' all day long. I was mystified since I am a dynamic curious excited person ordinarily. I then came off the meds and notice the speeding up of my experience of 'time'. A day flew by. Was the tolerance decrease in dopamine notoriously caused by the antipsychotic causing my brain to not 'enjoy time' and was this why I felt 'bored'? It left me intuitively knowing that antipsychotics slow down the perception of 'time'. Possibly by action on dopamine. I then came across a study in a science magazine that confirmed that our perception of 'time' can go slow. The article theorised that the brain's comprehension of the passage of 'time' is not like viewing a modern cinema film but more like a flickering flick book. Each flicker gives a "scene" then a "shuttering" off of that, and then a different "scene" and a shuttering off of that, and so on. There are as many gaps between scenes as scenes that make up our experience of the passage of time. I think the antipsychotic gummed up my brain's ability to process time passing. My point is lost to me as why I am saying this, I think someone mentioned this kind of thing to do with attention and which hemisphere grabs notice of the scene. In the gaps between scenes is there an elbowing for readiness between the two hemispheres? Also I see post it notes in the background in the video. Which hemisphere decides a post it note is necessary, which hemisphere holds court as the content creator of the post it note? I often write right hemisphere creative dreams onto post it notes but maybe my left hemisphere is grabbing them and sticking them in conspicuous places. Why do we not evolve a uni-hemisphere, like a uni-brow, that can do this kind of duality as a more unified ensemble? Bitty-ness seems favoured by nature. The bitty-ness of the hemispheres and the bitty-ness of the perception of time. Complexity forms wholeness, as in fractals. We are made of fractals, with a bitty fractal brain that perceives in bitty fractals and likes to study fractals. Which is all rather fractal-ish. No wonder I needed the meds.
In the part of the conversation where deduction and induction are being thought about and described (7 -10 mins), would it be appropriate to discuss here also the 'in between' state that occurs that is neither induction or deduction but holds them in relation, this being transduction. Think it was c.s. pierce who introduced this term? Also the work of Winnicott with regards to transitional space which is the space of play or relationality leading to novelty leading to adaptive evolution and transformed culture?
Great work! I really learnt many things from this. Here you also answered some of the questions about the previous video with Michae Levin that I had. It would seem to me there is a kind of "modulating resistance" between the right and left hemisphere when everything is working in harmony. So we never go too far. The issue is when one gets more dominant. There is a quite a lot of talk about left hemisphere dominance. Is too much right hemisphere bad too? and what are the manifestations of that (e.g. procrastination)?
If I could try, regardless of the wood or nails the volume of marbles creates the shape of the curve by the structure of the marbles within the confined environment of the board itself, as for cell intelligence, could it be that one knows what it should do, but once combined with two the parameters change the outcome of possibilities, and so on, but where that systematic information is contained to allow for building the system itself up to species, might remain a mystery, and with the bioelectric field coinciding with the growth is it purely passive energy or as the structures dynamics explode does that energy maintain some sort of coherent balance to keep everything together? Brilliant minds and it so much fun to be able to follow along with their inquiries into the subject matter, having diverse fields of interest can be the boost the system needs. Thank you Richard, Michael, and Iian for sharing this with those of us who are curious about your groups work. Peace
@Mike Fuller Actually my wife recently participated in TMS treatment at Sunnybrook hospital, I don't think her daily life at the time was conducive to the treatment, and her treatment was focused on her left hemisphere but she's left handed, TMS treatment in other locations take handedness into account, and perform pre and post mri's. I understand the value of the technology, but you would think that the changes to the landscape of the brain should be recorded for physical representation of the technologies affectiveness. I'm thinking that it might take quantum computering to make Michael's teams work to be realized.
Very nice and profound. So all we need is a multilayer organization with agency and memory? Like a map for all possibilities? There is a mathematical system that exactly resembles it, with a literally limitless number of possibilities. The only thing that is needed is some unidirectional moving arrow, like 'time' !!
I made a discovery that will allow you to see which hemisphere of the brain is leading at the moment! we just tilt our heads to the right side and to the left! the lower hemisphere is the leading one!Knowing the difference you can notice the manifestation!
Similar to this is mentioned in " The Master&His Emmissary" , only that Iain points out the direction of the faces in portraits(Paintings).He correlates the visual field and the "direction " faced or depicted ; with the prevailing collective hemisphere dominance of that time. Maybe your own observation explains why we describe some people as "Level Headed" ? 😅
Something so calming/satisfying about Dr. McGilchrists periodic confirmational "Mmmm"s and "Hmmm"s. It's like therapeutic and sonic little bits of happiness for me. If I knew how to do videos...I would do loops of his sounds over and over...
"What about the content of their discussion?"
I mean, that was good too, I suppose.
Fascinating! Michael Levin seems to be on the verge of discovering big things and I'm reassured that he is speaking with someone like Iain McGilchrist. Thank you all!
Oh please continue to explore this space!! These are not just important but vital questions for our time. I'm thrilled to see that some are finally questioning the "grabbing and getting" mentality of not only our actions being a (huge) problem, but how it effects the basic assumptions of science itself. I am hugely grateful to Dr. Levin for bringing these "right brain" questions up by means of "left brain" experiments that clearly show the assumptions themselves to be lacking. Arguing with ideas is one thing but arguing with results is another and I am so excited about the questions that are now being opened up to science via all of your work. The world (in my humble opinion) owes you all a debt of gratitude. Thank you!!!
I love these types of talks. You know, I have discovered a way to clear the mind and think MUCH more clearly when I can do it, that is...and that is do a 7 day DRY FAST and see how your body and feelings can change literally over that period of time. It's an immense help for thoughtful processes. Thanks to you all for this offering of wisdom galore.
You are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱
No
Michael gives me bookshelf envy
He gives me brain envy 😂
Levin's explanation of the 'free gifts' in biology is brilliant.
Watson's bringing natural selection and learning together also profound -- does this allow for 'explorer modes' in evolution? Perhaps able to leap over valleys in the fitness landscape/Levin's morphospace?
Thank you
Wonderful discussion. Thank you.
I was put on antipsychotics once. I found myself hugely 'bored' all day long. I was mystified since I am a dynamic curious excited person ordinarily. I then came off the meds and notice the speeding up of my experience of 'time'. A day flew by. Was the tolerance decrease in dopamine notoriously caused by the antipsychotic causing my brain to not 'enjoy time' and was this why I felt 'bored'? It left me intuitively knowing that antipsychotics slow down the perception of 'time'. Possibly by action on dopamine. I then came across a study in a science magazine that confirmed that our perception of 'time' can go slow. The article theorised that the brain's comprehension of the passage of 'time' is not like viewing a modern cinema film but more like a flickering flick book. Each flicker gives a "scene" then a "shuttering" off of that, and then a different "scene" and a shuttering off of that, and so on. There are as many gaps between scenes as scenes that make up our experience of the passage of time. I think the antipsychotic gummed up my brain's ability to process time passing. My point is lost to me as why I am saying this, I think someone mentioned this kind of thing to do with attention and which hemisphere grabs notice of the scene. In the gaps between scenes is there an elbowing for readiness between the two hemispheres? Also I see post it notes in the background in the video. Which hemisphere decides a post it note is necessary, which hemisphere holds court as the content creator of the post it note? I often write right hemisphere creative dreams onto post it notes but maybe my left hemisphere is grabbing them and sticking them in conspicuous places.
Why do we not evolve a uni-hemisphere, like a uni-brow, that can do this kind of duality as a more unified ensemble? Bitty-ness seems favoured by nature. The bitty-ness of the hemispheres and the bitty-ness of the perception of time. Complexity forms wholeness, as in fractals. We are made of fractals, with a bitty fractal brain that perceives in bitty fractals and likes to study fractals. Which is all rather fractal-ish. No wonder I needed the meds.
In the part of the conversation where deduction and induction are being thought about and described (7 -10 mins), would it be appropriate to discuss here also the 'in between' state that occurs that is neither induction or deduction but holds them in relation, this being transduction. Think it was c.s. pierce who introduced this term? Also the work of Winnicott with regards to transitional space which is the space of play or relationality leading to novelty leading to adaptive evolution and transformed culture?
Great work! I really learnt many things from this. Here you also answered some of the questions about the previous video with Michae Levin that I had. It would seem to me there is a kind of "modulating resistance" between the right and left hemisphere when everything is working in harmony. So we never go too far. The issue is when one gets more dominant. There is a quite a lot of talk about left hemisphere dominance. Is too much right hemisphere bad too? and what are the manifestations of that (e.g. procrastination)?
This is so deep I'm beginning to feel sea sick either that or I'm drowning
Fascinating stuff, gentlemen...
Can I anticipate a # 3 ?
If I could try, regardless of the wood or nails the volume of marbles creates the shape of the curve by the structure of the marbles within the confined environment of the board itself, as for cell intelligence, could it be that one knows what it should do, but once combined with two the parameters change the outcome of possibilities, and so on, but where that systematic information is contained to allow for building the system itself up to species, might remain a mystery, and with the bioelectric field coinciding with the growth is it purely passive energy or as the structures dynamics explode does that energy maintain some sort of coherent balance to keep everything together? Brilliant minds and it so much fun to be able to follow along with their inquiries into the subject matter, having diverse fields of interest can be the boost the system needs. Thank you Richard, Michael, and Iian for sharing this with those of us who are curious about your groups work. Peace
@Mike Fuller Actually my wife recently participated in TMS treatment at Sunnybrook hospital, I don't think her daily life at the time was conducive to the treatment, and her treatment was focused on her left hemisphere but she's left handed, TMS treatment in other locations take handedness into account, and perform pre and post mri's. I understand the value of the technology, but you would think that the changes to the landscape of the brain should be recorded for physical representation of the technologies affectiveness. I'm thinking that it might take quantum computering to make Michael's teams work to be realized.
10:20 re: induction/ deduction ; please consider pattern recognition ,the birthplace (or rather,conception spot)🤣 of metaphor .The resolution of "slipperiness" ?
ok I didn't expect such a crossover
cool
please add link to previous discussion
Very nice and profound.
So all we need is a multilayer organization with agency and memory? Like a map for all possibilities? There is a mathematical system that exactly resembles it, with a literally limitless number of possibilities. The only thing that is needed is some unidirectional moving arrow, like 'time' !!
Stephen Wolfram needs to be in this conversation
I didn't drown after all. Not sure about the others
Hey, Fish.
That big eye can't see eengestalt ?
Forget that giant squid; especially whatever it's trying to do with that tentacle.😂
Swim on !
Hey Ian, guess what, I luv ya
The Bias in the betweeness
I made a discovery that will allow you to see which hemisphere of the brain is leading at the moment! we just tilt our heads to the right side and to the left! the lower hemisphere is the leading one!Knowing the difference you can notice the manifestation!
Similar to this is mentioned in " The Master&His Emmissary" , only that Iain points out the direction of the faces in portraits(Paintings).He correlates the visual field and the "direction " faced or depicted ; with the prevailing collective hemisphere dominance of that time.
Maybe your own observation explains why we describe some people as "Level Headed" ?
😅
Abductive inference.