Tromp Family Adventure | Was Shared Psychotic Disorder Responsible?

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
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  • @thomism1016
    @thomism1016 Před 2 lety +745

    I find Dr. G's sense of humour not just dry but positively arid, anhydrous and completely dehydrated and I'm British. He cracks these horrific jokes with a straight face.

    • @tammy_vip
      @tammy_vip Před 2 lety +47

      Brit here too.. Dr G could definitely be one of us.

    • @vonclod123
      @vonclod123 Před 2 lety +29

      Was just thinking, it's so dry in here..love it!

    • @thomism1016
      @thomism1016 Před 2 lety +9

      @@tammy_vip 🇬🇧

    • @lakenwaters8704
      @lakenwaters8704 Před 2 lety +23

      Yeah isnt he great!!

    • @dprcontracting6299
      @dprcontracting6299 Před 2 lety +30

      As was said about one of our NZ Prime Ministers 'So dry as to be combustible'.

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 Před 2 lety +330

    The idea of Dr. Grande falling down an internet rabbit hole just makes him more charming

    • @callmekells802
      @callmekells802 Před 2 lety +8

      That was pretty funny

    • @twocents7495
      @twocents7495 Před 2 lety +3

      ❤️🐰

    • @kingayy9267
      @kingayy9267 Před 2 lety +12

      About red currants, of all things.
      So very adorable.

    • @RONPEE-STINGER
      @RONPEE-STINGER Před 2 lety +3

      Tromp 2021

    • @Shitty796
      @Shitty796 Před 2 lety

      This guy makes 20 times what you make for money for some stupid videos a kid can read off a script

  • @sunnyjozani8421
    @sunnyjozani8421 Před 2 lety +307

    Red currants are awesome (you can stir-fry them with pistachios and almonds and top your rice with them). The problem they cause in agriculture is that there is a plant disease that completes its cycle if wheat and red currants are planted near one another (it needs both hosts to complete its cycle). So in a given area, only one of the two plants should be grown to prevent the disease outbreak. As far as the two plant types aren't grown in the same area, they're both fine.

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 Před 2 lety +24

      never heard of that

    • @natalielawyerchick
      @natalielawyerchick Před 2 lety +39

      Fascinating

    • @thecoldglassofwatershow
      @thecoldglassofwatershow Před 2 lety +10

      Yup! That’s why black currants are illegal in a lot of places I believe

    • @exrobowidow1617
      @exrobowidow1617 Před 2 lety +25

      California alone has about 14 species of currant (genus Ribes) native to the state (many of these are native to other states as well), plus several subspecies. If you add the members of genus Ribes that are called gooseberry, you about double the number of species native to California. There are also many species native to many U.S. states and Australia. I think the states that banned certain European species of currant are (or were) mostly in the Northeast, due to the plants being a host of white pine blister rust.

    • @MasterMalrubius
      @MasterMalrubius Před 2 lety +6

      @@thecoldglassofwatershow No, that's just racist thinking. :-D

  • @JustJ-Me
    @JustJ-Me Před 2 lety +417

    Lessons to be learned: Don't vacation with family- you'll go nuts. Got it👍🏻

    • @Benjaminleo815
      @Benjaminleo815 Před 2 lety +20

      Esp in-laws 😂😂😂

    • @michelefizer2774
      @michelefizer2774 Před 2 lety +5

      Hahaha! Love it!

    • @blondiek35
      @blondiek35 Před 2 lety +9

      truth you speak. My brother's, mother's and my trip to Yellowstone was a trip disaster. Long story, Ended up No Contact with my mother since July. C'est la vie!?

    • @JustJ-Me
      @JustJ-Me Před 2 lety +9

      @@blondiek35 It's unfortunate to hear that, but I also understand how it's better for one's own sanity and health. I only have my dad and brother (mom passed) & figured out during a hospitalization that I needed to go "no contact" with my brother and basically have a business-like "relationship" with my dad, if any. It's lonely, but for the best. I hope you have a support system in another form. 🤍

    • @lakshanifernando6733
      @lakshanifernando6733 Před 2 lety +2

      😂

  • @yogadork_namaste
    @yogadork_namaste Před 2 lety +161

    This should be made into a movie. By the right people who can make us feel the madness, too!

    • @USALibertarian
      @USALibertarian Před 2 lety +4

      "Tromp"?!?! It's too "on the nose." Someone sneaking a trackable phone is exactly what would happen in a movie.
      Some of these horrific true crime stories I can only envision as comedies, which makes me uncomfortable.

    • @BakeHarn
      @BakeHarn Před 2 lety +5

      Directed by David Lynch

    • @USALibertarian
      @USALibertarian Před 2 lety +4

      Or the Coen Brothers.

    • @BurroGirl
      @BurroGirl Před 2 lety

      Good one!!!!

    • @AakaashLFC09
      @AakaashLFC09 Před 2 lety +3

      In India, a supposed case of Shared Delusion Disorder which lead to the death of 11 people has been covered by Netflix. It is called House of Secrets : Burari Deaths.

  • @toniemorrison4263
    @toniemorrison4263 Před 2 lety +254

    What an interesting story, Dr. Grande! I knew of shared psychosis, but I'd never never heard of this family's story. "There's a limit to trust," is the wisest statement I've heard in months.👍 Btw, when I pay my bills, I think someone's trying to steal my money too. I've narrowed it down to Discover, Macy's and Amex.

    • @krazeelety
      @krazeelety Před 2 lety +9

      😂

    • @Jay-hp6pu
      @Jay-hp6pu Před 2 lety +23

      Don’t forget Amazon. They’re always taking money from me.

    • @elainearchibald9020
      @elainearchibald9020 Před 2 lety +8

      Lol

    • @pattih7
      @pattih7 Před 2 lety +13

      I wonder if their business contact with others, was their main contact with others. Isolation can cause paranoia, to a degree, I believe. Lack of trust in outside people, could be due to too much business, and not enough social activities or relationships.

    • @rdhawk929
      @rdhawk929 Před 2 lety +2

      😹

  • @dawnfalvey6766
    @dawnfalvey6766 Před 2 lety +62

    Shared psychotic disorder- like the toilet paper shortage of 2020. 🤪

  • @Nairod2
    @Nairod2 Před 2 lety +203

    I can relate to that, any time I am close to my mother my behavior becomes unhinged and erratic. after I distance my self from her my neuroticism and paranoia decrease to tolerable levels to where I can rationalize my behavior instead of reacting to it. I think is a conditioned response to the toxic behavior of others, like a defense mechanism to avoid harm. n_n we always end up verbally arguing any time we stay too long close to each other because the passive aggressiveness becomes blatant aggression.

    • @abrahamamani9888
      @abrahamamani9888 Před 2 lety +21

      Holy shit spot on👌🏾

    • @jb-uw2vt
      @jb-uw2vt Před 2 lety +26

      My ex was the same way with her mother. It used to drive me crazy because she refused to just stay away from her (wasn't saying it had to be permanently) to remedy it. She was literally addicted to going to her house and fighting with her. I had to leave because she wouldn't do anything about it or even really recognize a problem. Sad.

    • @juliat.8768
      @juliat.8768 Před 2 lety +12

      @@jb-uw2vt dude same but with one of my close friend+bf…it hurts me bc she’s such a cool person but they get a kick out of making each other miserable and visiting the same emotions over n over…they’re addicted fr…

    • @mariagabrielle6383
      @mariagabrielle6383 Před 2 lety +17

      Perhaps its time to go to your mom, forgive her & go your own way. You owe her nothing & yourself everything.
      Just a thought.

    • @kafkainspringtime
      @kafkainspringtime Před 2 lety +4

      oh i have this too. that’s really insightful.

  • @dianamorariu9763
    @dianamorariu9763 Před 2 lety +369

    'I guess delusional family related car theft is something the owner could relate to. Who hasn't been there?' Dr. Grade has a great sense of humor, I love catching these little jokes during some of the videos 😂

  • @Maritina89
    @Maritina89 Před 2 lety +63

    I feel like the genius of these videos is that it’s 99,9% educational/interesting but there is this 0.1% comedic value that you just will not find elsewhere and makes all the difference.

  • @johnrodgers2171
    @johnrodgers2171 Před 2 lety +80

    Even though they said no drugs were involved it sounds like they were unintentionally tripping on something like mushrooms or the berries.

    • @d3l3tes00n
      @d3l3tes00n Před 2 lety +21

      You'd be surprised what the brain on its own can do.

    • @kingayy9267
      @kingayy9267 Před 2 lety +9

      Wasn't it found (or is suspected) that ergot/rye poisoning caused the mass dancing hysteria and several deaths?

    • @amaryllisflower
      @amaryllisflower Před 2 lety +7

      Family trip lmaooo

    • @katrianem2124
      @katrianem2124 Před 2 lety +4

      @@kingayy9267 doctor grande covered that, nothing was found in their systems or on the farm. Ergot poisoning would have a been a go to for sure.

    • @itssmariaaaa
      @itssmariaaaa Před 2 lety +1

      @@amaryllisflower hahahaha

  • @davisbird
    @davisbird Před 2 lety +64

    I’ve never totally understood why this case was taken as such a mystery-if my partner woke me up in the middle of the night and said people were after us, I’d probably get in the car out of sheer disorientation, and I’m an adult. If I was a teenager and the person telling me I was in danger was my dad? I’d believe him, at least for a little while.

    • @sarak4010
      @sarak4010 Před 2 lety +4

      The kids were all adults though: 22-29 years old.

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 Před 2 lety +5

      So if your partner or father suddenly says "People wanna steal our money, lets split!" you just go along with it? Bathurst is 1000 km from Sylvain. You don't think you'd have some questions along that journey? Also, the typical response to the threat of stealing is to call the police, not drive halfway across a continent with no ultimate destination in mind.
      Then we have one daughter turn catatonic stowaway and the other becomes a car thief. I'm sorry, but this was very, very weird.

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom Před 2 lety +173

    The Tromp Family Adventure sounds a lot like 'The Sound of Music' only without the sound of any music.

  • @necko2529
    @necko2529 Před 2 lety +136

    "Family trip", sounds like the whole family got a hold of some strong stuff.

  • @pathofclouds85
    @pathofclouds85 Před 2 lety +94

    Dr Grande, can you analyze the Burari deaths in India? The whole family suffered from some sort of psychosis and killed themselves. The Netflix show on this called House of Secrets was just released.

    • @sueh273
      @sueh273 Před 2 lety +5

      Just watched that documentary last weekend. Fascinating but clearly they trusted a mentally unfit member of their household who likely had issues dealing with his father's death. But it's very interesting & a case worth covering.

    • @happeedaze1
      @happeedaze1 Před 2 lety +1

      I watched that one too. I was so saddened. I've seen where one family member can be very contolling but this case was so scary how far control can go. It was horrific.

    • @minglifeng2862
      @minglifeng2862 Před 2 lety

      Lol his analysis here can be directly applied to that case. Are you serious

  • @dinaboop
    @dinaboop Před 2 lety +13

    This reminds me of the documentary I watched last night, about a family of 11 in India who all died because the patriarch convinced them he was able to channel his dead father to receive daily instructions about how to conduct their lives. And they all followed along blindly in a suicide ritual, even though everyone who knew them thought they were perfectly sensible.

  • @aircastles1013
    @aircastles1013 Před 2 lety +35

    This was all over the news here in Australia, for many days. It was SO bizarre, with no following explanation. Thanks for your take on it!

    • @teresasanders1087
      @teresasanders1087 Před 2 lety +2

      I've never heard of this and I'm Aussie. So weird. I'm going to read up on it.

    • @hollye549
      @hollye549 Před rokem

      @@teresasanders1087 same! Never heard about it. But I was pretty busy moving at that time- so probably to preoccupied… plus don’t watch the ‘news’ either…

  • @sharonknevett9699
    @sharonknevett9699 Před 2 lety +13

    I'm British too and Dr Grandes sense of humour is right up my alley ! Lovely soothing voice as well.

  • @johnfraser8116
    @johnfraser8116 Před 2 lety +35

    Your currant thinking on the Tromp family psyches is very enlightening. Big thanks!😀

    • @tonioshea9870
      @tonioshea9870 Před 2 lety +1

      Currant, as in "current"? Brilliant, lol! 😁😄😅😂 Our fellow viewers are obviously not as astute as Grande; you'd have hundreds of likes if they were♡

    • @johnfraser8116
      @johnfraser8116 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tonioshea9870 👌✌🤘🤙😂

    • @normacook8325
      @normacook8325 Před 2 lety

      🤣 ^^^

  • @wesleyem3
    @wesleyem3 Před 2 lety +98

    I've been binging your content since last night and I admire your level-headed, calm analysis of these cases. Thank you for your work.

    • @LizzPaintz
      @LizzPaintz Před 2 lety +2

      I love that about him too. Ive been binge watching and have learned so much!

  • @Luckyforus686
    @Luckyforus686 Před 2 lety +69

    I’ve been loving all the Aussie content lately Dr Grande! I’m watching every day! I’ve been surprised with the more obscure stories you’ve known about. We’re an odd country…. plenty of psychoanalysis material here! Good job attempting the place names, considering our pronunciation is completely illogical! Goulburn is GOAL-ben, which makes no sense obviously, but the effort you put in shows!

    • @HMGarth
      @HMGarth Před 2 lety +10

      Hi from Melbourne 👋🇦🇺
      Dr. Grande really impressed me the first time I heard his perfect "Mel-bin" 😁 Buuuut...I had a good laugh at "Wunna-grutta"!😂 I don't expect any non-Aussie to pronounce Wangaratta correctly!

    • @evamz9584
      @evamz9584 Před 2 lety +4

      @@HMGarth I feel so Australian after reading the proper pronunciations 🤓🇦🇺
      So how do you pronounce Wangarratta?

    • @Luckyforus686
      @Luckyforus686 Před 2 lety +2

      @@evamz9584 um.. I’d say won-ga-ratta with won like the number one

    • @frahn1702
      @frahn1702 Před 2 lety +7

      @@evamz9584
      I live near there - it’s WANG -guh-RAT-uh

    • @evamz9584
      @evamz9584 Před 2 lety

      @@frahn1702 nice thankyou I imagine people from different areas and accents say it slightly different. Kind of like here in the US.

  • @tross8863
    @tross8863 Před 3 lety +25

    I remember hearing about this on another channel soon after it happened. But never heard anything about what exactly was going on with them. Thanks Doc, for explaining this. 😊

  • @kimbali77
    @kimbali77 Před 2 lety +157

    He seemed to be able to relate to the delusional family adventure. “Who hasn’t done that?” 🤣🤣🤣

    • @skreemqueen756
      @skreemqueen756 Před 2 lety +4

      I know I’ve been there 🤪

    • @undercovermother7456
      @undercovermother7456 Před 2 lety +8

      @@skreemqueen756 Pretty much describes every time we took our kids to Disneyland.

    • @coreyledin-bristol7068
      @coreyledin-bristol7068 Před 2 lety +5

      Anyone that chooses to take a road trip with their family is obviously delusional!

    • @SlapthePissouttayew
      @SlapthePissouttayew Před 2 lety +3

      @@undercovermother7456 That's what I was going to say except as my childhood vacations with my parents..lol

    • @Terri_Hugs
      @Terri_Hugs Před 2 lety

      Girl you got to stop that! I'm all serious and started reading the comments and by the time I hit yours...I thought I would pee my pants!

  • @calanthiarose
    @calanthiarose Před 2 lety +3

    I love you Dr. Grande. I've had 47 years of nonsense and had no clue about it. When I realized it I went looking for help. Sometimes I would almost collapse under the weight of all the over the top videos and advice. I would ask the universe...Why? Why can't someone just speak in a normal tone of voice in a calm and rational manner? And then I found your channel. Thank You So Much!

  • @AMM3.
    @AMM3. Před 2 lety +48

    every family vacation I go on is delusional! So I should see some similarities 😂

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Před 2 lety +62

    Dr. Grande, today it was revealed that Gabby Petito’s cause of death was strangulation. Even though I knew this was a possibility, it just made me so sad, it’s a heartbreaking news.😔
    If you feel inclined, I would love to hear your thoughts on this new development.
    Thank you for considering.

    • @digitalsmithy
      @digitalsmithy Před 2 lety +14

      jesus leave it alone yall got a fetish for that shit

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 2 lety +8

      Is anybody else's heart breaking over this? I know it is media frenzy time but these two people seemed real to me and now one is dead (killed!) and the other ruined and hated! Both their families have been harmed and no end in sight!

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 Před 2 lety +5

      Rejane,have been watching this tragic from Australia. I hope her loved ones can find out what happened to th is young woman.I really hope they can get closure. Maybe one day I hope they can celebrate, Gabby young and beautiful life💖

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 Před 2 lety

      @@digitalsmithy don't watch

  • @RocKnight11
    @RocKnight11 Před 2 lety +76

    In this video you raise the question if "any lessons learned in this case" but you failed to bring up your (and mine) increased knowledge of Redcurrents.
    Thank you.

  • @A-1-Sawce
    @A-1-Sawce Před 2 lety +20

    Huh, never heard of this one. Always nice to catch the good Dr's video right after I get home from work and can watch in peace.

  • @billhildebrand5053
    @billhildebrand5053 Před 2 lety +37

    MY Only speculation is on the mysterious disappearance of the five members of the 🌵🌵🌵cacti 🌵🌵🌵family on the west shelf ( If you are facing north). Oh, they are only on a brief escapade collecting red currents. Of if you like, on well deserved vacación.
    I share your **entusiasmo**, Dr Grande...🌿🍃🌿

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 2 lety +1

      There might be another reason for no second shelf!?😎

    • @imogenstroud1024
      @imogenstroud1024 Před 2 lety +7

      Please don't out the cacti they are on the run from their creditors

    • @girlygal098
      @girlygal098 Před 2 lety

      😅

  • @sstteev
    @sstteev Před 3 lety +71

    "Make Australia Great Again" -Dunald Tromp

    • @scarlettsteele7999
      @scarlettsteele7999 Před 2 lety +2

      How did you post this 3 months ago tf

    • @Lisasanti1
      @Lisasanti1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@scarlettsteele7999 It was likely posted on his Patreon months ago.

    • @sstteev
      @sstteev Před 2 lety +1

      @@scarlettsteele7999 patreon

  • @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem
    @Midlife_Manical_Mayhem Před 2 lety +45

    i have got to learn to not be eating or drinking when i watch these videos. dr. todd's dry, off handed remarks always catch my by surprise.

    • @JustJ-Me
      @JustJ-Me Před 2 lety +2

      3:24 sounded like he could barely get the word "human" out without cracking. Glad I wasn't drinking right then.

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Před 2 lety +3

      I legit put my phone down and start clapping while laughing lol

    • @lilyw.719
      @lilyw.719 Před 2 lety +5

      I almost half died once watching a video of his. I was sipping a glass of whiskey while watching and was starting to feel it a bit, when he said something that made me burst out laughing so hard I simultaneously snorted whiskey up my nose and sprayed it all over my laptop, and I kept laughing so hard I started having an asthma attack. 😋 Somebody needs to put a warning on his videos!

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Před 2 lety +2

      WARNING! Don't drink and Grande!

  • @BillyG869
    @BillyG869 Před 2 lety +2

    This has opened my eyes to my former in-laws and their family structure. I could always see that the Mother, my ex mother in law, was a clinically treated woman with a history of childhood abuse and later onset psychosis. Her Husband, my ex Father in Law was a very easy going, passive man. He seemingly adapted to keep the Mother in Law was maintaining sane boundary’s, however would shift his personality to keep the family peace. The children were all very strong family members, not the typical range of personalities. My former wife was very quite but later discovered to be a covert narcissist. The others in the family always concurred with any outside situations by banding up and agreeing with the side of their family members and ostracizing whomever they decided was “Sick in the Head”. A common term in describing anyone who ended up questioning their obviously strange behavior. What tipped me off was when I started to observe a consistent pattern of not thinking or critically discussing situations, but whatever the Mother decided was a “Sick Person” they’d all fall in and never want to discuss anything thereafter?? I just started raising the children we brought into the world like normal parents and as the children grew older and developed outside friends and life experience they sort of moved away from the in-laws structure and did not want to spend any time there at the in-laws or with the facility. I got away and went through some typical stuff emotionally, but felt better and better as time went on. The children from my marriage are independent and well grounded individuals. I am a free man now. But that family from all indications remains an enmeshed mess? So be it…This was a great story and I could humorously relate to this disorder quite well..Thanks

  • @Mountlougallops
    @Mountlougallops Před 2 lety +42

    Excellent analysis and good theories.
    And red currants rock! My favorite is the black, but the red a great too. I grew them in Oregon. They’re awesome in scones or tea. Peter rabbit loved them too. Thanks dr g ✌🏽🕊👍🏼👋🏼

    • @piparalegal2019
      @piparalegal2019 Před 2 lety +6

      Mmmm.... blackcurrant! I love blackcurrant preserves! I just wish they were easier to find them in stores where I live!

    • @Mountlougallops
      @Mountlougallops Před 2 lety

      @@piparalegal2019 IKR!?👍🏼😎✌🏽🥰

    • @CBeatty59
      @CBeatty59 Před 2 lety +1

      Red currant or black currant jam is delicious! Well known in Canada, and France too as “cassis”.

    • @Mountlougallops
      @Mountlougallops Před 2 lety

      @@CBeatty59 I live it in fresh biscuits ❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️

  • @70zenboy
    @70zenboy Před 2 lety +3

    Hearing dr grande pronounce Wangaratta is worth the price of admission.

  • @lidahall5928
    @lidahall5928 Před 2 lety +27

    Hey, I'm Australian. How is it that I've never before heard of this family and their fear of losing their redcurrant related lucre?!? Amazing...

    • @Trancegirl1966
      @Trancegirl1966 Před 2 lety +2

      I live in Western Australia and I haven't heard of it either. I must be living under a rock because I didn't know about the red currants too.

    • @EllieBee60
      @EllieBee60 Před 2 lety +2

      I’m Australian too and I’ve never heard of this case. It’s a mysterious one

    • @Trancegirl1966
      @Trancegirl1966 Před 2 lety +1

      @@EllieBee60 It's a mystery alright! Dr Grande has highlighted two Australian cases so far. I'm looking forward to the next Australian instalment, I hope that I've heard of it. Cheers from Perth..😍

    • @brooketahliaa3121
      @brooketahliaa3121 Před 2 lety

      I live on the Gold Coast and I’ve never heard of it either

    • @Jojoxxr
      @Jojoxxr Před 2 lety

      I live in NSW & vaguely remember something about the daughter that snuck into the dudes car in Goulburn

  • @polarbearsrus6980
    @polarbearsrus6980 Před 2 lety +9

    First thing that struck me is that all the children are still at home at their ages. Never heard of this case but seems they were somewhat isolated on that farm, maybe that had something to do with it, they definitely seemed to be paranoid. Tanks for sharing.

  • @antoniolittera2154
    @antoniolittera2154 Před 2 lety +66

    Red Currants are the most common where I live and possibly the oldest type.
    My grandmother grew up in the 1910’s and the same bushes we have now were big and grown back when she grew up. A relative also has White Currant growing on his cottage. That’s the only place I have ever seen White Currants so they seem to be rare, at least here in Sweden.

    • @covid-yu6ml
      @covid-yu6ml Před 2 lety +7

      Red currant is very popular in Russia and Ukraine. Some people have white currant. But the most popular among the currant is black one. I think it is completely banned in U.S. I miss those berries (black current) so much.

    • @jrt818
      @jrt818 Před 2 lety +1

      Love Swedish lingonberry jam, wish it wasn't so expensive for my budget.

    • @lindala2602
      @lindala2602 Před 2 lety

      I have never even heard that there should be anything wrong with red currants (Denmark)

  • @gailgray6653
    @gailgray6653 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow i lived around the corner from this family. That house always gave me the creeps when i drove past welll before this happened.

  • @danithompson1693
    @danithompson1693 Před 3 lety +31

    What a fascinating story. I also love alliteration so any day with a "red currant rabbit hole" is definitely a bonus!

    • @AMM3.
      @AMM3. Před 2 lety +3

      How was your comment on this video made 6 months ago? 😂
      That's what my screen shows lol

    • @JustJ-Me
      @JustJ-Me Před 2 lety +3

      @@AMM3. Mine shows 3 months ago!

    • @AMM3.
      @AMM3. Před 2 lety +3

      @@JustJ-Me weird shit 😂
      Lapse in time?

    • @dalhousiekid
      @dalhousiekid Před 2 lety +3

      How is that phrase an alliteration? Don't the first consonants (or most of the words) have to have the same letters or sounds?
      "A well known alliterative tongue twister is: Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked."
      Not trying to be rude. Just an observation 🙂

    • @JustJ-Me
      @JustJ-Me Před 2 lety

      @@AMM3. a Folie à deux! Kidding. In another comment he mentioned uploading this months ago.

  • @madamebutterfly851
    @madamebutterfly851 Před 2 lety +2

    Im a mental health outreach worker, I am also an counseling intern and have never encountered shared psychosis! And I work with a lot of psychotic people! I typically assume it's meth these days. Common themes of being bugged or followed by the fbi or CIA, hundreds of people hiding in trees at night watching them. Is it that one partner is completely convincing and the other doesn't realize it's psychosis and them themselves become convinced? Some people with paranoia present fine in many areas and don't appear grossly disorganized like say a diagnosed schizophrenic. So interesting. Thanks again for another great analysis!

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom Před 2 lety +12

    I am relieved that this is a 'Tromp' video and not a 'Trump' video.

    • @shelleybleu4903
      @shelleybleu4903 Před 2 lety +2

      Same

    • @Danielle-nz9tn
      @Danielle-nz9tn Před 2 lety +2

      Though I’m sure that all the Trump family vacations are pretty psychotic!

    • @BigZebraCom
      @BigZebraCom Před 2 lety

      @@Danielle-nz9tn I'm sure after exposure to them we would all want to vomit.

  • @camuscat123
    @camuscat123 Před 2 lety +6

    How terrifying would it be if your parents starting behaving irrationally? Surely, this would be traumatic. I think there would be great denial: what a nightmare! Thanks... a very interesting case.

  • @fernalicious
    @fernalicious Před 2 lety +15

    Quality AND quantity. Very rare, thanks Dr! 👍🧠👍

  • @skunkrat01
    @skunkrat01 Před 2 lety +9

    I remember when this happened, it was a wild ride in more ways than ones.
    Mostly just scared for their safety until the nation was assured they were ok, then baffled.
    I think all's well that ends well?? That doesn't sound like a very good take. thank god for dr grande!

  • @santareviews
    @santareviews Před 2 lety +12

    Always a special event when Dr Grande uploads two videos in one day! Hardest working content creator on CZcams

  • @paintnamer6403
    @paintnamer6403 Před 2 lety +5

    A family that craze together stays together.

  • @elizabethshaw734
    @elizabethshaw734 Před 2 lety +11

    Red and black currants are hugely popular in the United Kingdom and mainly in the form of jellies and concentrated drink mixes. Also very popular in candies ice cream you name it. It is probably more popular than the strawberry there and strawberries are a very serious subject in the UK. It was black currants that were outlawed in the United States but I regularly purchase red currant jelly made by the Trappist monks. It is quite delicious.:-)

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 Před 2 lety

      Currants are delicious, I can't believe ppl don't know about them or know do little about them that they'd think they were hallucinogens...the stores here don't usually carry them. You have to grow them yourself. Heirloom gardening catalogs sell the plants. But a few states ban them due to risk of pine blister rust.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Před 2 lety +28

    What a nice surprise, I just finished watching the earlier video you posted today only to see another one!🙂
    Thank you so much Dr. Grande!❤️

  • @bloomingaccents
    @bloomingaccents Před 2 lety +6

    Hi Dr. Grande! Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your videos. I appreciate you sharing your expertise on very complicated personalities.
    I've learned a lot, especially how to examine and share complex stories in a methodical way!

  • @honeybadger4245
    @honeybadger4245 Před 2 lety +12

    Me, a German, who walks through life with redcurrant bushes left and right: 😳

  • @samlsd9711
    @samlsd9711 Před 2 lety +11

    Ahh I was waiting for Dr.Grande everyday after work.
    Thank you :) for the hard work, always appreciated.
    I remember in organic chemistry reading about neuropsychiatric disorders/symptoms caused organophosphates used as pesticides, it could be long term exposure to those chemicals it triggered the father's psychosis...
    Hopefully they are all ok. It's bizarre incident.

  • @kristita_888
    @kristita_888 Před 2 lety +24

    “Delusional family-related car theft was something he could relate to!” 🤣

  • @Felonie531
    @Felonie531 Před 2 lety +4

    Can you take a look at the Burari mass suicides/ accidental deaths? All 11 members of a family were found dead by hanging. One of the men in the family had convinced them that he was their dead grandfather speaking through him and told them to carry out this ritual in which they died. There’s even a documentary on Netflix but they never discussed what mental health problem the man had and how even shared psychosis could have convinced all 11 members.

  • @candyvigil550
    @candyvigil550 Před 2 lety +19

    This was such a strange case. Glad you talked about it. I couldn't believe how extreme the one daughter acted. Sounds like they need to have more time apart. Are they sure those red currants didn't cause all this? LOL

    • @maryfreebed9886
      @maryfreebed9886 Před 11 dny

      Are they sure that the red currants were red currants and not something else that looked like them in there too?

  • @jadanirvanna
    @jadanirvanna Před 2 lety +8

    really bizarre case, shared psychosis is always very interesting to me..even though CO poisoning was ruled out, i do wonder if they were inadvertently inhaling or consuming something on the farm that caused all this

  • @bilindalaw-morley161
    @bilindalaw-morley161 Před rokem +2

    I'm Australian but I'm up in Queensland. We don't hear about many cases from down south, but this one was so strange the whole country knew about it.
    We debated whether the adult kids had murdered their parents, if they'd been kidnapped by strangers (but why?) or if they'd just acted as we later found out they did.
    There was also a lot of talk about why this family might have.been targeted, with most people professing to believe that there was massive drug involvement-.
    They must have been so embarrassed. It seems the parents got over their delusional state quite quickly, with minimal intervention.
    Imagine returning to your usual headspace and realising the whole country knows of your odd behaviour. I bet the adult offspring moved away asap.

  • @kipling1957
    @kipling1957 Před 2 lety +26

    I was prompted by your mention that these berries are banned for cultivation in the US (and wondered why). Certain hallucinogenic substances are associated with grain growth and storage, as you probably know, ergot for example. I have no idea what specifically could have caused inadvertent consumption of a hallucinogen, but if for example Belladonna berries somehow contaminated their crop, or if they were raising grain as a side-crop for family consumption and that became infected with ergot mould, there is at least the possibility that their adventure was the result of a nightmarish "trip."

    • @deedsterdoo1603
      @deedsterdoo1603 Před 2 lety +8

      I had thoughts of something like this as well. I think you're on to something.

    • @blueboats7530
      @blueboats7530 Před 2 lety +6

      My thought as well

    • @ruthstevens8805
      @ruthstevens8805 Před 2 lety +4

      There's no wheat or grain crops in Silvan, it's too wet. (I live a couple of hours away)

    • @Danielle-nz9tn
      @Danielle-nz9tn Před 2 lety +3

      Maybe they had stored magic mushrooms in their fridge or freezer, along with frozen red currants. Then they went to make a smoothie and accidentally grabbed freezer bags of both!

    • @kipling1957
      @kipling1957 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Danielle-nz9tn Doesn't that always happen! 😂😂😂

  • @windfreak33
    @windfreak33 Před 2 lety +4

    Delusional family vacation disorder (DFVD) definitely needs to be added to the DSM. 😉 Seriously though, one of the strangest stories I've ever heard in my life.

  • @katetruthseeker2758
    @katetruthseeker2758 Před 2 lety +32

    Maybe the red currants were tainted with some LSD mushrooms or something of the type?

    • @ReginaDailey
      @ReginaDailey Před 2 lety +9

      It's because of cedar/apple blight. Red currants are not affected by the disease, they are carriers. Red currents are members of the rose family. All members can be carriers of the disease. Red currants were banned in the United States because if the plants are growing in the national forest next to cedars or other related diseases, the trees are affected.

    • @SoManyRandomRamblings
      @SoManyRandomRamblings Před 2 lety +14

      I agree, or something else they were eating..... the fact that it seemed to "wear-off" at different rates made me think this as well.

    • @EllieBee60
      @EllieBee60 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SoManyRandomRamblings Yes exactly my thought too! As a nurse it was the first explanation I thought of. I’m surprised it wasn’t one of the theories/causes discussed by Dr. Grande

    • @Danielle-nz9tn
      @Danielle-nz9tn Před 2 lety +2

      I was thinking that too….or at least something to do with the red currants. Why did they stop selling the red currants to the public after returning from psychosis..i mean “vacation”?

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Danielle-nz9tn My guess would be that currant-pickers turned up to stare at or question the family. If there is such a thing as "red currant psychosis" (like ergotism) Australians would already know about it.

  • @sylviekins
    @sylviekins Před 2 lety +1

    Also a really good assessment of the differential diagnosis. Dr Grande has a sense of humour AND a sense of decency. Much appreciated.

  • @callmekells802
    @callmekells802 Před 2 lety +3

    I think this happens if a family is terribly emmmeshed. I believe the father had an episode of psychosis, but depending on how bad the emotional incest was, I could defiantly see how an entire family could fall into a shared psychosis. The subconscious is a crazy thing…. We have noooo idea how connected we all are. When the boundaries become blurred in your family… you know.

  • @Schiffon
    @Schiffon Před 2 lety +6

    I certainly have overheard conversations like this, felt uncomfortable and, as a child, myself, always kept quiet. Feeling a bit of horror, naturally.

  • @tanushreeghosh9655
    @tanushreeghosh9655 Před 2 lety +3

    A case in Delhi, India 🇮🇳 is a case of shared psychosis called “ The Burari Case” . A family of 11 died by hanging them selves because of a shared psychosis.

  • @philipgior3312
    @philipgior3312 Před 2 lety +4

    Reading the title fast I thought, 'aha now we may have an explanation as to what we witnessed over the past 4 years'

  • @Mouse_007
    @Mouse_007 Před 2 lety +25

    Doctor, I have grown to appreciate and thoroughly enjoy being hit with random curveballs of your dry witty humor. 😄

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 Před 2 lety +2

    Great analysis Dr Grande. . Tought I live in Australia, I've never heard of this event. What a weird and disturbing story. Thank you clarify the situation. Thank you Dr Grande. Great topic.

  • @ashleystahlhut8409
    @ashleystahlhut8409 Před 2 lety +3

    No joke I have wondered before why currants weren't as popular here as it seems to be in other parts of the world... now I know, thanks Dr. Grande! 👍

  • @mim3097
    @mim3097 Před 2 lety +2

    It's worth noting that this happened mid winter for us here in Australia. Where the girls were found is a very cold part of the country in winter, and snow isn't uncommon. So for them to essentially abandon the trip with nothing but the clothes on their back was really very bizarre. Also, Golburn and Yass are tiny farming towns with very limited amenities. Canberra, which is Australia's capital city, is only about 1hr away by car. It makes no sense to stop in Golburn instead of Canberra. There is so much more to this story that is just so puzzling.

    • @The3Storms
      @The3Storms Před 11 měsíci

      Thanks for those extra details, this is such a fun story to chew on. Absolutely wacko.

  • @buttercxpdraws8101
    @buttercxpdraws8101 Před 2 lety +76

    4:48 the town is pronounced Wang - gar - RAT - ah. There’s some tricky pronunciation with aboriginal origin place names in Australia, you made a fair attempt tho 😄🤗

    • @JustJ-Me
      @JustJ-Me Před 2 lety +13

      I was just thinking how brave he was attempting to pronounce these places in Australia bc I know I would surely mess it up.

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 Před 2 lety +3

      ohh ok, i was wondering what he was talking about

    • @nancyevans7946
      @nancyevans7946 Před 2 lety +5

      So not from the fruit, currants??

    • @johnharber9208
      @johnharber9208 Před 2 lety +4

      2:54 Also, the first syllable of Goulburn is pronounced like the word "goal" and not the word "ghoul".

    • @erinrichards89
      @erinrichards89 Před 2 lety +6

      "Wonagrotta" did give me a giggle.

  • @wendybond2848
    @wendybond2848 Před 2 lety +1

    If they thought people were trying to steal their money, why would they go away leaving their credit cards etc in a unlocked house?

  • @cheeriotomato
    @cheeriotomato Před 2 lety +5

    Thank you for casting all of my future nightmares with human-sized bees.

  • @amandarobbins2530
    @amandarobbins2530 Před 2 lety +5

    Covering so many Aussie cases lately
    Love it
    I lived near silvan !

  • @darlenelawson1255
    @darlenelawson1255 Před 3 lety +5

    I heard about this. At first I did think that those currents somehow made into a concoction. In the past I have heard of family that believe one person who sounds normal but is afraid of something. Your ideas are right on. Thank-you Dr. Todd for this story and the humour was helpful. My mother had early Dementia and was positive people were stealing things. I knew better but some of the family believed it because she was still quite coherent.The ending is the beginning.💙🇨🇦💙😦.

  • @jb-uw2vt
    @jb-uw2vt Před 2 lety +11

    I wonder if they ruled out mold toxins. I experienced heavy mold issues when I live/worked at a horse farm a few summers ago. Before I started there (I found out later) the daughter died from heart failure at age 28 which can be caused from prolonged exposure to mold toxins.

    • @jayeckson
      @jayeckson Před 2 lety +2

      Wow, that could be a great point. I have some mold in my home I haven't taken care of yet, and I've also had respiratory problems for months, and painful heart palpitations for several weeks now...

  • @kevinsturges6957
    @kevinsturges6957 Před 2 lety +9

    This is definitely one of the Stranger stories I’ve heard on here. I didn’t know people could share a psychosis.

    • @SY-ok2dq
      @SY-ok2dq Před 2 lety +7

      Fairly common thing. That's why there's that French term "folie a deux." This kind of thing pops up in crimes, such as the notorious murders committed by the Papin sisters in France. They were maids, and murdered their employer and her daughter. Usually there'll be a dominant person who has the delusions, and because they are so convincing, persuasive, and close to the other person (who might be socially and emotionally dependent on the delusional person), that delusion will come to be shared and then reinforced in strength. Think of how cults work, in rather similar ways.
      In this situation, it seems that it was likely just the parents who had the folie a deux. Their kids weren't really convinced - so one by one, they parted ways with their parents.

  • @colleenc.9900
    @colleenc.9900 Před 2 lety +2

    Dr. Grande is so sweet. Thinking about such subjects are not as bad when you go through it with him.

  • @theprayingiguanabengalmomma

    This is a extremely sad case. It’s almost like if someone or something messed with their brains and they escaped and everything fell apart. God bless the tromp family

  • @cassandrasuzannelalonde4758

    I heard about this case years ago, at the time there was not a lot of information. It was just a big question of why. Are you sure those red currents did not play a part in their behavior?

  • @eldritchia
    @eldritchia Před 2 lety +6

    Its kinda amazing nobody was injured or killed during this incident

    • @Danielle-nz9tn
      @Danielle-nz9tn Před 2 lety

      Or kidnapped or raped! Can you imagine as a woman being confronted by some random dude in your face, then you realize YOU are in HIS car and have NO IDEA WHY?! Good thing he was a decent person!

  • @coyotegraysr
    @coyotegraysr Před 2 lety +2

    Whenever I feel bad, all I have to do is watch a Dr G video and I feel so much better about myself. 😝

  • @floraposteschild4184
    @floraposteschild4184 Před 2 lety +12

    Well, that was weird. The family might not have had any diagnosed symptoms, but it's highly unusual to have three adult children living at home, on a farm, all in the same line of work, especially in this day and age. No one wanted to travel or go to college, or move in with a boyfriend or girlfriend? I don't think it's unfair to guess that the kids grew up isolated and homeschooled, and more dependent than usual, emotionally and economically, on their parents. If the parents became victims of folie a deux, it wouldn't be surprising the children would go along with it, to a point. Hopefully now they're getting help, and branching out on their own.

    • @Benjaminleo815
      @Benjaminleo815 Před 2 lety +2

      Homeschool rocks.

    • @floraposteschild4184
      @floraposteschild4184 Před 2 lety

      @@Benjaminleo815 Depends what the alternative is.

    • @lizsays3324
      @lizsays3324 Před 2 lety +5

      Such a good point! Also none of the kids are married or have children. They do seem usually dependent on the parents.

    • @Benjaminleo815
      @Benjaminleo815 Před 2 lety +1

      @@floraposteschild4184 Depends on the parents. My son got a full scholarship in engineering, and my next child is thriving in music.

    • @ellenmcaleese7004
      @ellenmcaleese7004 Před 2 lety +6

      Yes Flora, I agree.The quote by Kahil Gibran comes to mind - 'let there be spaces in your togetherness'.

  • @user-jd4wv5tj5j
    @user-jd4wv5tj5j Před 2 lety +2

    Human sized bee. I adore you, Dr. Grande. And thank you for covering this story. I can't get enough of it, it's so fascinating to me.

  • @kitkat031
    @kitkat031 Před 2 lety +7

    Great video! I always wanted to hear more about this case. Also love the podcast channel! ♥️

  • @niconestra
    @niconestra Před 2 lety +2

    As always, a great time spent with you Sir.

  • @music0cool
    @music0cool Před 2 lety +5

    "The Tromp Family Adventure" sounds like it could be a fun musical romp

  • @elliedaniels2245
    @elliedaniels2245 Před 2 lety +2

    Dr. Grande is always making me laugh out loud!! Best dry humor EVER!

  • @dositless9554
    @dositless9554 Před 2 lety +4

    Just leaving this for engagement purposes, hopefully CZcams will start promoting good videos like these. I used to be particularly fascinated by this case specifically years ago, can't wait to see what this video holds.
    Protip(?): Do more videos about really odd occurrences like this.

  • @sueh273
    @sueh273 Před 2 lety +2

    Always enjoy the cases u highlight. And of course ur humor!

  • @tiatokkesdal1745
    @tiatokkesdal1745 Před 2 lety +7

    “Delusional family vacation car theft is something he can relate to” Dr. grande at it again with those punch lines!! 😂💀

    • @Ann-qh3kb
      @Ann-qh3kb Před 2 lety +1

      😅😅😅😁😁😅😅😅

  • @hdcrossbones
    @hdcrossbones Před 2 lety +6

    Finding a human size bee would be scarier 🤣

  • @miniprepper8284
    @miniprepper8284 Před 2 lety +6

    I thin the man realized his children were all growing up and ready to leave his circle of authority... so he fabricated something to keep them all together with him and the wife. I didn't hear a word about boyfriends/spouses, and at their age, that's a red flag. Did he do it purposefully? I think he was deluded, but that may have been the reason.

  • @f.4588
    @f.4588 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Dr. G for picking up this topic for your analysis!

  • @iainholmes2735
    @iainholmes2735 Před 2 lety +8

    Great analysis about a topic virtually unknown here in the UK. Would love it if, at some point, we could have some Dr Grande thoughts on some famous recluses: eg Greta Garbo or JD Sallinger.

  • @IreneRK
    @IreneRK Před 2 lety +2

    Dr. Grande, please consider doing an analysis on the Burari Deaths case, India - 11 members of one joint family (3 generations) committed suicide in the Capital City here. Apparently it was said to be mass psychosis as well. It was extremely bizarre and the ritualistic details found in their diary were creepy.
    There is a documentary on Netflix India currently on air about them.

  • @RachelSnijders001
    @RachelSnijders001 Před 2 lety +4

    I suspect the Tromps are South African immigrants. Jacoba and Riana are typical Afrikaans names, as is the surname. Many Saffas moved away over the years due to the intolerable crime rate in SA. Mark, the father, may have been exposed to armed robbery or carjacking, etc back home, which left him emotionally vulnerable. I am merely speculating. I worked as a trauma counselor in Johannesburg and saw a huge amount of PTSD as a result of crime.

  • @pierrettehebert3044
    @pierrettehebert3044 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video & very informative and the humour is a bonus! Love it!

  • @mrparlanejxtra
    @mrparlanejxtra Před 2 lety +4

    Do red currents have any ingredients that are mind altering? Did anybody check to see if they had any type of pesticide poisoning from crop spraying?

    • @callmekells802
      @callmekells802 Před 2 lety +1

      I was thinking the same. I looked it up and can’t seem to find a connection .

  • @trinabaker3186
    @trinabaker3186 Před 2 lety +2

    Shared intense fear of an imaginary problem ... which caused a great deal of confusion. ... to an extreme.

  • @7piecebucket
    @7piecebucket Před 2 lety +10

    I am hoping for the sequel where they pick up Cousin Eddie and drive to Tasmania.

    • @EllieBee60
      @EllieBee60 Před 2 lety

      😂😂😂 Thank you for that comment it made me laugh out loud!!

    • @CBeatty59
      @CBeatty59 Před 2 lety

      Or load late Aunt Fanny on the roof.

  • @MelissaSue1998
    @MelissaSue1998 Před 2 lety

    Seen this before and I’m still very curious of the situation and so thanks for your analysis Dr Grande