Tromp Family Adventure | Was Shared Psychotic Disorder Responsible?
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I find Dr. G's sense of humour not just dry but positively arid, anhydrous and completely dehydrated and I'm British. He cracks these horrific jokes with a straight face.
Brit here too.. Dr G could definitely be one of us.
Was just thinking, it's so dry in here..love it!
@@tammy_vip 🇬🇧
Yeah isnt he great!!
As was said about one of our NZ Prime Ministers 'So dry as to be combustible'.
The idea of Dr. Grande falling down an internet rabbit hole just makes him more charming
That was pretty funny
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About red currants, of all things.
So very adorable.
Tromp 2021
This guy makes 20 times what you make for money for some stupid videos a kid can read off a script
Red currants are awesome (you can stir-fry them with pistachios and almonds and top your rice with them). The problem they cause in agriculture is that there is a plant disease that completes its cycle if wheat and red currants are planted near one another (it needs both hosts to complete its cycle). So in a given area, only one of the two plants should be grown to prevent the disease outbreak. As far as the two plant types aren't grown in the same area, they're both fine.
never heard of that
Fascinating
Yup! That’s why black currants are illegal in a lot of places I believe
California alone has about 14 species of currant (genus Ribes) native to the state (many of these are native to other states as well), plus several subspecies. If you add the members of genus Ribes that are called gooseberry, you about double the number of species native to California. There are also many species native to many U.S. states and Australia. I think the states that banned certain European species of currant are (or were) mostly in the Northeast, due to the plants being a host of white pine blister rust.
@@thecoldglassofwatershow No, that's just racist thinking. :-D
Lessons to be learned: Don't vacation with family- you'll go nuts. Got it👍🏻
Esp in-laws 😂😂😂
Hahaha! Love it!
truth you speak. My brother's, mother's and my trip to Yellowstone was a trip disaster. Long story, Ended up No Contact with my mother since July. C'est la vie!?
@@blondiek35 It's unfortunate to hear that, but I also understand how it's better for one's own sanity and health. I only have my dad and brother (mom passed) & figured out during a hospitalization that I needed to go "no contact" with my brother and basically have a business-like "relationship" with my dad, if any. It's lonely, but for the best. I hope you have a support system in another form. 🤍
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This should be made into a movie. By the right people who can make us feel the madness, too!
"Tromp"?!?! It's too "on the nose." Someone sneaking a trackable phone is exactly what would happen in a movie.
Some of these horrific true crime stories I can only envision as comedies, which makes me uncomfortable.
Directed by David Lynch
Or the Coen Brothers.
Good one!!!!
In India, a supposed case of Shared Delusion Disorder which lead to the death of 11 people has been covered by Netflix. It is called House of Secrets : Burari Deaths.
What an interesting story, Dr. Grande! I knew of shared psychosis, but I'd never never heard of this family's story. "There's a limit to trust," is the wisest statement I've heard in months.👍 Btw, when I pay my bills, I think someone's trying to steal my money too. I've narrowed it down to Discover, Macy's and Amex.
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Don’t forget Amazon. They’re always taking money from me.
Lol
I wonder if their business contact with others, was their main contact with others. Isolation can cause paranoia, to a degree, I believe. Lack of trust in outside people, could be due to too much business, and not enough social activities or relationships.
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Shared psychotic disorder- like the toilet paper shortage of 2020. 🤪
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I can relate to that, any time I am close to my mother my behavior becomes unhinged and erratic. after I distance my self from her my neuroticism and paranoia decrease to tolerable levels to where I can rationalize my behavior instead of reacting to it. I think is a conditioned response to the toxic behavior of others, like a defense mechanism to avoid harm. n_n we always end up verbally arguing any time we stay too long close to each other because the passive aggressiveness becomes blatant aggression.
Holy shit spot on👌🏾
My ex was the same way with her mother. It used to drive me crazy because she refused to just stay away from her (wasn't saying it had to be permanently) to remedy it. She was literally addicted to going to her house and fighting with her. I had to leave because she wouldn't do anything about it or even really recognize a problem. Sad.
@@jb-uw2vt dude same but with one of my close friend+bf…it hurts me bc she’s such a cool person but they get a kick out of making each other miserable and visiting the same emotions over n over…they’re addicted fr…
Perhaps its time to go to your mom, forgive her & go your own way. You owe her nothing & yourself everything.
Just a thought.
oh i have this too. that’s really insightful.
'I guess delusional family related car theft is something the owner could relate to. Who hasn't been there?' Dr. Grade has a great sense of humor, I love catching these little jokes during some of the videos 😂
Dry as hell and it cracks me up every time.
😂😂😂😂😂 so funny
I agree, I love that he sprinkles humor into his video talk and you never see it coming!!
Ba dum dum🥁
I just had a terrific healthy laugh at that comment. I really needed it too!
I feel like the genius of these videos is that it’s 99,9% educational/interesting but there is this 0.1% comedic value that you just will not find elsewhere and makes all the difference.
Well put!
Even though they said no drugs were involved it sounds like they were unintentionally tripping on something like mushrooms or the berries.
You'd be surprised what the brain on its own can do.
Wasn't it found (or is suspected) that ergot/rye poisoning caused the mass dancing hysteria and several deaths?
Family trip lmaooo
@@kingayy9267 doctor grande covered that, nothing was found in their systems or on the farm. Ergot poisoning would have a been a go to for sure.
@@amaryllisflower hahahaha
I’ve never totally understood why this case was taken as such a mystery-if my partner woke me up in the middle of the night and said people were after us, I’d probably get in the car out of sheer disorientation, and I’m an adult. If I was a teenager and the person telling me I was in danger was my dad? I’d believe him, at least for a little while.
The kids were all adults though: 22-29 years old.
So if your partner or father suddenly says "People wanna steal our money, lets split!" you just go along with it? Bathurst is 1000 km from Sylvain. You don't think you'd have some questions along that journey? Also, the typical response to the threat of stealing is to call the police, not drive halfway across a continent with no ultimate destination in mind.
Then we have one daughter turn catatonic stowaway and the other becomes a car thief. I'm sorry, but this was very, very weird.
The Tromp Family Adventure sounds a lot like 'The Sound of Music' only without the sound of any music.
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That's "von Trapp" 🤗
@@bthomsondid you mean 'von tromp'? Just checking.
Von Trapp?
@@deplorablecovfefe9489 Yes!
"Family trip", sounds like the whole family got a hold of some strong stuff.
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Lol
Double trip
Maybe the red currants lol
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Dr Grande, can you analyze the Burari deaths in India? The whole family suffered from some sort of psychosis and killed themselves. The Netflix show on this called House of Secrets was just released.
Just watched that documentary last weekend. Fascinating but clearly they trusted a mentally unfit member of their household who likely had issues dealing with his father's death. But it's very interesting & a case worth covering.
I watched that one too. I was so saddened. I've seen where one family member can be very contolling but this case was so scary how far control can go. It was horrific.
Lol his analysis here can be directly applied to that case. Are you serious
This reminds me of the documentary I watched last night, about a family of 11 in India who all died because the patriarch convinced them he was able to channel his dead father to receive daily instructions about how to conduct their lives. And they all followed along blindly in a suicide ritual, even though everyone who knew them thought they were perfectly sensible.
This was all over the news here in Australia, for many days. It was SO bizarre, with no following explanation. Thanks for your take on it!
I've never heard of this and I'm Aussie. So weird. I'm going to read up on it.
@@teresasanders1087 same! Never heard about it. But I was pretty busy moving at that time- so probably to preoccupied… plus don’t watch the ‘news’ either…
I'm British too and Dr Grandes sense of humour is right up my alley ! Lovely soothing voice as well.
Your currant thinking on the Tromp family psyches is very enlightening. Big thanks!😀
Currant, as in "current"? Brilliant, lol! 😁😄😅😂 Our fellow viewers are obviously not as astute as Grande; you'd have hundreds of likes if they were♡
@@tonioshea9870 👌✌🤘🤙😂
🤣 ^^^
I've been binging your content since last night and I admire your level-headed, calm analysis of these cases. Thank you for your work.
I love that about him too. Ive been binge watching and have learned so much!
I’ve been loving all the Aussie content lately Dr Grande! I’m watching every day! I’ve been surprised with the more obscure stories you’ve known about. We’re an odd country…. plenty of psychoanalysis material here! Good job attempting the place names, considering our pronunciation is completely illogical! Goulburn is GOAL-ben, which makes no sense obviously, but the effort you put in shows!
Hi from Melbourne 👋🇦🇺
Dr. Grande really impressed me the first time I heard his perfect "Mel-bin" 😁 Buuuut...I had a good laugh at "Wunna-grutta"!😂 I don't expect any non-Aussie to pronounce Wangaratta correctly!
@@HMGarth I feel so Australian after reading the proper pronunciations 🤓🇦🇺
So how do you pronounce Wangarratta?
@@evamz9584 um.. I’d say won-ga-ratta with won like the number one
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I live near there - it’s WANG -guh-RAT-uh
@@frahn1702 nice thankyou I imagine people from different areas and accents say it slightly different. Kind of like here in the US.
I remember hearing about this on another channel soon after it happened. But never heard anything about what exactly was going on with them. Thanks Doc, for explaining this. 😊
He seemed to be able to relate to the delusional family adventure. “Who hasn’t done that?” 🤣🤣🤣
I know I’ve been there 🤪
@@skreemqueen756 Pretty much describes every time we took our kids to Disneyland.
Anyone that chooses to take a road trip with their family is obviously delusional!
@@undercovermother7456 That's what I was going to say except as my childhood vacations with my parents..lol
Girl you got to stop that! I'm all serious and started reading the comments and by the time I hit yours...I thought I would pee my pants!
I love you Dr. Grande. I've had 47 years of nonsense and had no clue about it. When I realized it I went looking for help. Sometimes I would almost collapse under the weight of all the over the top videos and advice. I would ask the universe...Why? Why can't someone just speak in a normal tone of voice in a calm and rational manner? And then I found your channel. Thank You So Much!
every family vacation I go on is delusional! So I should see some similarities 😂
Dr. Grande, today it was revealed that Gabby Petito’s cause of death was strangulation. Even though I knew this was a possibility, it just made me so sad, it’s a heartbreaking news.😔
If you feel inclined, I would love to hear your thoughts on this new development.
Thank you for considering.
jesus leave it alone yall got a fetish for that shit
Is anybody else's heart breaking over this? I know it is media frenzy time but these two people seemed real to me and now one is dead (killed!) and the other ruined and hated! Both their families have been harmed and no end in sight!
Rejane,have been watching this tragic from Australia. I hope her loved ones can find out what happened to th is young woman.I really hope they can get closure. Maybe one day I hope they can celebrate, Gabby young and beautiful life💖
@@digitalsmithy don't watch
In this video you raise the question if "any lessons learned in this case" but you failed to bring up your (and mine) increased knowledge of Redcurrents.
Thank you.
Huh, never heard of this one. Always nice to catch the good Dr's video right after I get home from work and can watch in peace.
MY Only speculation is on the mysterious disappearance of the five members of the 🌵🌵🌵cacti 🌵🌵🌵family on the west shelf ( If you are facing north). Oh, they are only on a brief escapade collecting red currents. Of if you like, on well deserved vacación.
I share your **entusiasmo**, Dr Grande...🌿🍃🌿
There might be another reason for no second shelf!?😎
Please don't out the cacti they are on the run from their creditors
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"Make Australia Great Again" -Dunald Tromp
How did you post this 3 months ago tf
@@scarlettsteele7999 It was likely posted on his Patreon months ago.
@@scarlettsteele7999 patreon
i have got to learn to not be eating or drinking when i watch these videos. dr. todd's dry, off handed remarks always catch my by surprise.
3:24 sounded like he could barely get the word "human" out without cracking. Glad I wasn't drinking right then.
I legit put my phone down and start clapping while laughing lol
I almost half died once watching a video of his. I was sipping a glass of whiskey while watching and was starting to feel it a bit, when he said something that made me burst out laughing so hard I simultaneously snorted whiskey up my nose and sprayed it all over my laptop, and I kept laughing so hard I started having an asthma attack. 😋 Somebody needs to put a warning on his videos!
WARNING! Don't drink and Grande!
This has opened my eyes to my former in-laws and their family structure. I could always see that the Mother, my ex mother in law, was a clinically treated woman with a history of childhood abuse and later onset psychosis. Her Husband, my ex Father in Law was a very easy going, passive man. He seemingly adapted to keep the Mother in Law was maintaining sane boundary’s, however would shift his personality to keep the family peace. The children were all very strong family members, not the typical range of personalities. My former wife was very quite but later discovered to be a covert narcissist. The others in the family always concurred with any outside situations by banding up and agreeing with the side of their family members and ostracizing whomever they decided was “Sick in the Head”. A common term in describing anyone who ended up questioning their obviously strange behavior. What tipped me off was when I started to observe a consistent pattern of not thinking or critically discussing situations, but whatever the Mother decided was a “Sick Person” they’d all fall in and never want to discuss anything thereafter?? I just started raising the children we brought into the world like normal parents and as the children grew older and developed outside friends and life experience they sort of moved away from the in-laws structure and did not want to spend any time there at the in-laws or with the facility. I got away and went through some typical stuff emotionally, but felt better and better as time went on. The children from my marriage are independent and well grounded individuals. I am a free man now. But that family from all indications remains an enmeshed mess? So be it…This was a great story and I could humorously relate to this disorder quite well..Thanks
Excellent analysis and good theories.
And red currants rock! My favorite is the black, but the red a great too. I grew them in Oregon. They’re awesome in scones or tea. Peter rabbit loved them too. Thanks dr g ✌🏽🕊👍🏼👋🏼
Mmmm.... blackcurrant! I love blackcurrant preserves! I just wish they were easier to find them in stores where I live!
@@piparalegal2019 IKR!?👍🏼😎✌🏽🥰
Red currant or black currant jam is delicious! Well known in Canada, and France too as “cassis”.
@@CBeatty59 I live it in fresh biscuits ❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️
Hearing dr grande pronounce Wangaratta is worth the price of admission.
Hey, I'm Australian. How is it that I've never before heard of this family and their fear of losing their redcurrant related lucre?!? Amazing...
I live in Western Australia and I haven't heard of it either. I must be living under a rock because I didn't know about the red currants too.
I’m Australian too and I’ve never heard of this case. It’s a mysterious one
@@EllieBee60 It's a mystery alright! Dr Grande has highlighted two Australian cases so far. I'm looking forward to the next Australian instalment, I hope that I've heard of it. Cheers from Perth..😍
I live on the Gold Coast and I’ve never heard of it either
I live in NSW & vaguely remember something about the daughter that snuck into the dudes car in Goulburn
First thing that struck me is that all the children are still at home at their ages. Never heard of this case but seems they were somewhat isolated on that farm, maybe that had something to do with it, they definitely seemed to be paranoid. Tanks for sharing.
Red Currants are the most common where I live and possibly the oldest type.
My grandmother grew up in the 1910’s and the same bushes we have now were big and grown back when she grew up. A relative also has White Currant growing on his cottage. That’s the only place I have ever seen White Currants so they seem to be rare, at least here in Sweden.
Red currant is very popular in Russia and Ukraine. Some people have white currant. But the most popular among the currant is black one. I think it is completely banned in U.S. I miss those berries (black current) so much.
Love Swedish lingonberry jam, wish it wasn't so expensive for my budget.
I have never even heard that there should be anything wrong with red currants (Denmark)
Wow i lived around the corner from this family. That house always gave me the creeps when i drove past welll before this happened.
What a fascinating story. I also love alliteration so any day with a "red currant rabbit hole" is definitely a bonus!
How was your comment on this video made 6 months ago? 😂
That's what my screen shows lol
@@AMM3. Mine shows 3 months ago!
@@JustJ-Me weird shit 😂
Lapse in time?
How is that phrase an alliteration? Don't the first consonants (or most of the words) have to have the same letters or sounds?
"A well known alliterative tongue twister is: Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked."
Not trying to be rude. Just an observation 🙂
@@AMM3. a Folie à deux! Kidding. In another comment he mentioned uploading this months ago.
Im a mental health outreach worker, I am also an counseling intern and have never encountered shared psychosis! And I work with a lot of psychotic people! I typically assume it's meth these days. Common themes of being bugged or followed by the fbi or CIA, hundreds of people hiding in trees at night watching them. Is it that one partner is completely convincing and the other doesn't realize it's psychosis and them themselves become convinced? Some people with paranoia present fine in many areas and don't appear grossly disorganized like say a diagnosed schizophrenic. So interesting. Thanks again for another great analysis!
I am relieved that this is a 'Tromp' video and not a 'Trump' video.
Same
Though I’m sure that all the Trump family vacations are pretty psychotic!
@@Danielle-nz9tn I'm sure after exposure to them we would all want to vomit.
How terrifying would it be if your parents starting behaving irrationally? Surely, this would be traumatic. I think there would be great denial: what a nightmare! Thanks... a very interesting case.
Quality AND quantity. Very rare, thanks Dr! 👍🧠👍
Agree 💯
I remember when this happened, it was a wild ride in more ways than ones.
Mostly just scared for their safety until the nation was assured they were ok, then baffled.
I think all's well that ends well?? That doesn't sound like a very good take. thank god for dr grande!
Always a special event when Dr Grande uploads two videos in one day! Hardest working content creator on CZcams
A family that craze together stays together.
Red and black currants are hugely popular in the United Kingdom and mainly in the form of jellies and concentrated drink mixes. Also very popular in candies ice cream you name it. It is probably more popular than the strawberry there and strawberries are a very serious subject in the UK. It was black currants that were outlawed in the United States but I regularly purchase red currant jelly made by the Trappist monks. It is quite delicious.:-)
Currants are delicious, I can't believe ppl don't know about them or know do little about them that they'd think they were hallucinogens...the stores here don't usually carry them. You have to grow them yourself. Heirloom gardening catalogs sell the plants. But a few states ban them due to risk of pine blister rust.
What a nice surprise, I just finished watching the earlier video you posted today only to see another one!🙂
Thank you so much Dr. Grande!❤️
Hi Dr. Grande! Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your videos. I appreciate you sharing your expertise on very complicated personalities.
I've learned a lot, especially how to examine and share complex stories in a methodical way!
Me, a German, who walks through life with redcurrant bushes left and right: 😳
Ahh I was waiting for Dr.Grande everyday after work.
Thank you :) for the hard work, always appreciated.
I remember in organic chemistry reading about neuropsychiatric disorders/symptoms caused organophosphates used as pesticides, it could be long term exposure to those chemicals it triggered the father's psychosis...
Hopefully they are all ok. It's bizarre incident.
Good point!
“Delusional family-related car theft was something he could relate to!” 🤣
Can you take a look at the Burari mass suicides/ accidental deaths? All 11 members of a family were found dead by hanging. One of the men in the family had convinced them that he was their dead grandfather speaking through him and told them to carry out this ritual in which they died. There’s even a documentary on Netflix but they never discussed what mental health problem the man had and how even shared psychosis could have convinced all 11 members.
This was such a strange case. Glad you talked about it. I couldn't believe how extreme the one daughter acted. Sounds like they need to have more time apart. Are they sure those red currants didn't cause all this? LOL
Are they sure that the red currants were red currants and not something else that looked like them in there too?
really bizarre case, shared psychosis is always very interesting to me..even though CO poisoning was ruled out, i do wonder if they were inadvertently inhaling or consuming something on the farm that caused all this
I'm Australian but I'm up in Queensland. We don't hear about many cases from down south, but this one was so strange the whole country knew about it.
We debated whether the adult kids had murdered their parents, if they'd been kidnapped by strangers (but why?) or if they'd just acted as we later found out they did.
There was also a lot of talk about why this family might have.been targeted, with most people professing to believe that there was massive drug involvement-.
They must have been so embarrassed. It seems the parents got over their delusional state quite quickly, with minimal intervention.
Imagine returning to your usual headspace and realising the whole country knows of your odd behaviour. I bet the adult offspring moved away asap.
I was prompted by your mention that these berries are banned for cultivation in the US (and wondered why). Certain hallucinogenic substances are associated with grain growth and storage, as you probably know, ergot for example. I have no idea what specifically could have caused inadvertent consumption of a hallucinogen, but if for example Belladonna berries somehow contaminated their crop, or if they were raising grain as a side-crop for family consumption and that became infected with ergot mould, there is at least the possibility that their adventure was the result of a nightmarish "trip."
I had thoughts of something like this as well. I think you're on to something.
My thought as well
There's no wheat or grain crops in Silvan, it's too wet. (I live a couple of hours away)
Maybe they had stored magic mushrooms in their fridge or freezer, along with frozen red currants. Then they went to make a smoothie and accidentally grabbed freezer bags of both!
@@Danielle-nz9tn Doesn't that always happen! 😂😂😂
Delusional family vacation disorder (DFVD) definitely needs to be added to the DSM. 😉 Seriously though, one of the strangest stories I've ever heard in my life.
Maybe the red currants were tainted with some LSD mushrooms or something of the type?
It's because of cedar/apple blight. Red currants are not affected by the disease, they are carriers. Red currents are members of the rose family. All members can be carriers of the disease. Red currants were banned in the United States because if the plants are growing in the national forest next to cedars or other related diseases, the trees are affected.
I agree, or something else they were eating..... the fact that it seemed to "wear-off" at different rates made me think this as well.
@@SoManyRandomRamblings Yes exactly my thought too! As a nurse it was the first explanation I thought of. I’m surprised it wasn’t one of the theories/causes discussed by Dr. Grande
I was thinking that too….or at least something to do with the red currants. Why did they stop selling the red currants to the public after returning from psychosis..i mean “vacation”?
@@Danielle-nz9tn My guess would be that currant-pickers turned up to stare at or question the family. If there is such a thing as "red currant psychosis" (like ergotism) Australians would already know about it.
Also a really good assessment of the differential diagnosis. Dr Grande has a sense of humour AND a sense of decency. Much appreciated.
I think this happens if a family is terribly emmmeshed. I believe the father had an episode of psychosis, but depending on how bad the emotional incest was, I could defiantly see how an entire family could fall into a shared psychosis. The subconscious is a crazy thing…. We have noooo idea how connected we all are. When the boundaries become blurred in your family… you know.
I certainly have overheard conversations like this, felt uncomfortable and, as a child, myself, always kept quiet. Feeling a bit of horror, naturally.
A case in Delhi, India 🇮🇳 is a case of shared psychosis called “ The Burari Case” . A family of 11 died by hanging them selves because of a shared psychosis.
Reading the title fast I thought, 'aha now we may have an explanation as to what we witnessed over the past 4 years'
Doctor, I have grown to appreciate and thoroughly enjoy being hit with random curveballs of your dry witty humor. 😄
Great analysis Dr Grande. . Tought I live in Australia, I've never heard of this event. What a weird and disturbing story. Thank you clarify the situation. Thank you Dr Grande. Great topic.
No joke I have wondered before why currants weren't as popular here as it seems to be in other parts of the world... now I know, thanks Dr. Grande! 👍
It's worth noting that this happened mid winter for us here in Australia. Where the girls were found is a very cold part of the country in winter, and snow isn't uncommon. So for them to essentially abandon the trip with nothing but the clothes on their back was really very bizarre. Also, Golburn and Yass are tiny farming towns with very limited amenities. Canberra, which is Australia's capital city, is only about 1hr away by car. It makes no sense to stop in Golburn instead of Canberra. There is so much more to this story that is just so puzzling.
Thanks for those extra details, this is such a fun story to chew on. Absolutely wacko.
4:48 the town is pronounced Wang - gar - RAT - ah. There’s some tricky pronunciation with aboriginal origin place names in Australia, you made a fair attempt tho 😄🤗
I was just thinking how brave he was attempting to pronounce these places in Australia bc I know I would surely mess it up.
ohh ok, i was wondering what he was talking about
So not from the fruit, currants??
2:54 Also, the first syllable of Goulburn is pronounced like the word "goal" and not the word "ghoul".
"Wonagrotta" did give me a giggle.
If they thought people were trying to steal their money, why would they go away leaving their credit cards etc in a unlocked house?
Thank you for casting all of my future nightmares with human-sized bees.
Covering so many Aussie cases lately
Love it
I lived near silvan !
I heard about this. At first I did think that those currents somehow made into a concoction. In the past I have heard of family that believe one person who sounds normal but is afraid of something. Your ideas are right on. Thank-you Dr. Todd for this story and the humour was helpful. My mother had early Dementia and was positive people were stealing things. I knew better but some of the family believed it because she was still quite coherent.The ending is the beginning.💙🇨🇦💙😦.
I wonder if they ruled out mold toxins. I experienced heavy mold issues when I live/worked at a horse farm a few summers ago. Before I started there (I found out later) the daughter died from heart failure at age 28 which can be caused from prolonged exposure to mold toxins.
Wow, that could be a great point. I have some mold in my home I haven't taken care of yet, and I've also had respiratory problems for months, and painful heart palpitations for several weeks now...
This is definitely one of the Stranger stories I’ve heard on here. I didn’t know people could share a psychosis.
Fairly common thing. That's why there's that French term "folie a deux." This kind of thing pops up in crimes, such as the notorious murders committed by the Papin sisters in France. They were maids, and murdered their employer and her daughter. Usually there'll be a dominant person who has the delusions, and because they are so convincing, persuasive, and close to the other person (who might be socially and emotionally dependent on the delusional person), that delusion will come to be shared and then reinforced in strength. Think of how cults work, in rather similar ways.
In this situation, it seems that it was likely just the parents who had the folie a deux. Their kids weren't really convinced - so one by one, they parted ways with their parents.
Dr. Grande is so sweet. Thinking about such subjects are not as bad when you go through it with him.
This is a extremely sad case. It’s almost like if someone or something messed with their brains and they escaped and everything fell apart. God bless the tromp family
I heard about this case years ago, at the time there was not a lot of information. It was just a big question of why. Are you sure those red currents did not play a part in their behavior?
Its kinda amazing nobody was injured or killed during this incident
Or kidnapped or raped! Can you imagine as a woman being confronted by some random dude in your face, then you realize YOU are in HIS car and have NO IDEA WHY?! Good thing he was a decent person!
Whenever I feel bad, all I have to do is watch a Dr G video and I feel so much better about myself. 😝
Well, that was weird. The family might not have had any diagnosed symptoms, but it's highly unusual to have three adult children living at home, on a farm, all in the same line of work, especially in this day and age. No one wanted to travel or go to college, or move in with a boyfriend or girlfriend? I don't think it's unfair to guess that the kids grew up isolated and homeschooled, and more dependent than usual, emotionally and economically, on their parents. If the parents became victims of folie a deux, it wouldn't be surprising the children would go along with it, to a point. Hopefully now they're getting help, and branching out on their own.
Homeschool rocks.
@@Benjaminleo815 Depends what the alternative is.
Such a good point! Also none of the kids are married or have children. They do seem usually dependent on the parents.
@@floraposteschild4184 Depends on the parents. My son got a full scholarship in engineering, and my next child is thriving in music.
Yes Flora, I agree.The quote by Kahil Gibran comes to mind - 'let there be spaces in your togetherness'.
Human sized bee. I adore you, Dr. Grande. And thank you for covering this story. I can't get enough of it, it's so fascinating to me.
Great video! I always wanted to hear more about this case. Also love the podcast channel! ♥️
As always, a great time spent with you Sir.
"The Tromp Family Adventure" sounds like it could be a fun musical romp
Dr. Grande is always making me laugh out loud!! Best dry humor EVER!
Just leaving this for engagement purposes, hopefully CZcams will start promoting good videos like these. I used to be particularly fascinated by this case specifically years ago, can't wait to see what this video holds.
Protip(?): Do more videos about really odd occurrences like this.
Always enjoy the cases u highlight. And of course ur humor!
“Delusional family vacation car theft is something he can relate to” Dr. grande at it again with those punch lines!! 😂💀
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Finding a human size bee would be scarier 🤣
Or a human size... Shoe?
I thin the man realized his children were all growing up and ready to leave his circle of authority... so he fabricated something to keep them all together with him and the wife. I didn't hear a word about boyfriends/spouses, and at their age, that's a red flag. Did he do it purposefully? I think he was deluded, but that may have been the reason.
Thank you Dr. G for picking up this topic for your analysis!
Great analysis about a topic virtually unknown here in the UK. Would love it if, at some point, we could have some Dr Grande thoughts on some famous recluses: eg Greta Garbo or JD Sallinger.
Dr. Grande, please consider doing an analysis on the Burari Deaths case, India - 11 members of one joint family (3 generations) committed suicide in the Capital City here. Apparently it was said to be mass psychosis as well. It was extremely bizarre and the ritualistic details found in their diary were creepy.
There is a documentary on Netflix India currently on air about them.
I suspect the Tromps are South African immigrants. Jacoba and Riana are typical Afrikaans names, as is the surname. Many Saffas moved away over the years due to the intolerable crime rate in SA. Mark, the father, may have been exposed to armed robbery or carjacking, etc back home, which left him emotionally vulnerable. I am merely speculating. I worked as a trauma counselor in Johannesburg and saw a huge amount of PTSD as a result of crime.
That does make sense.
Great video & very informative and the humour is a bonus! Love it!
Do red currents have any ingredients that are mind altering? Did anybody check to see if they had any type of pesticide poisoning from crop spraying?
I was thinking the same. I looked it up and can’t seem to find a connection .
Shared intense fear of an imaginary problem ... which caused a great deal of confusion. ... to an extreme.
I am hoping for the sequel where they pick up Cousin Eddie and drive to Tasmania.
😂😂😂 Thank you for that comment it made me laugh out loud!!
Or load late Aunt Fanny on the roof.
Seen this before and I’m still very curious of the situation and so thanks for your analysis Dr Grande