Finally got a sub 5 minute run. I saved more time than I thought I would. I imagined we would get just under 5 minutes but here we are. Watch live at: / darkjay
This is incredible, in every sense of the word. You've taken a game that takes me over an hour to beat and did it in less time than it takes for me to make popcorn.
Michael Meng fast mode doesnt change much of your time, that's been a while that most of my runs are sub 30 minutes, and i don't use fast mode. It's more about practice than software.
You're probably right lol. I just got the game for a few hours when I posted the previous comment, and 10 hours into the game I find myself on Act 3 often around the 20 minute mark. So gameplay is definitely more vital to time.
@@usr196 But then there's the walk back and forth to the kitchen, which is a minute away, and a few seconds to get the unpopped popcorn out of the closet.
I watched this video on 0.5 speed because he did everything so damn fast, and i just wanted to try and understand what he is doing, jesus christ this is amazing
@@AttilaVoices He's basically doing the following: - Skip as many fights as possible by hitting question marks - Defend as little as possible to save rounds in fights - Search for the exact card build he got (strong turn 1 AoE) - Keep the deck minimal and never pick up cards that don't fit the build (he used some glitch to avoid picking up transformed cards) - Use tricks to skip as many animations as possible (like pressing m after fights to quickly get to the next point on the map)
for those still wondering, there was a bug that let you cancel out of dialogs/choices, it's used 2x here: one to cancel the transform on pandora's box which ends up removing all strikes/defends, and one that cancels receiving the curse on necronomicon. Patched out, which is why this run uses the unpatched version. At that point it's just str buffing, vulnerable, and philosophers stone on 3rd map to wombo combo every time. you could easily theoretically get faster just with better RNG in shops and card rewards (if you get buffed cards you don't need to spend any time in smithing and could potentially buy a relic that is better gold spent) but the odds of even getting THIS rng (with glitches version) is pretty low to begin with to somehow improve on that... pretty low chance.
The only thing I had trouble following was the Pandora’s Box glitch. He was halfway through the City by the time I realized he was on a 5-card deck and I had to rewind and re-watch that part about 4 times before I realized what was going on. Felt mildly cheated at first, because I thought I’d been missing out on the option to just dump all my strikes and defends for free off a single relic, but reading that it’s a patched-out glitch makes me feel slightly better now. 😅
@@PMCPN "for those still wondering, there was a bug that let you cancel out of dialogs/choices, it's used 2x here: one to cancel the transform on pandora's box which ends up removing all strikes/defends... Patched out, which is why this run uses the unpatched version. " Idk for sure how the glitch works, but og comment pretty clearly says that it cancels the transforming of the blocks and strikes halfway through which removes them but doesn't add the transformed versions
Yeah, I tried to make a deck with the Silent with only 5 cards using the one card that does 50 damage to all enemies if your hand is empty but I was never able to thin down my deck enough
Guys, how did his deck go from 12 cards to 4 cards at 1:49? Is taking the cards Pandoras box gives voluntary? If so it's one of the best relics in the game lmao
@@Dylems i think you dont get the point here. Its APOTHEOSIS (*golden noises*) one does not simply not get his hands on the most powerful and shiny card in the game
I was confused as well. Till i went back and watched it in 0.25 speed. He transformed the strikes and defends and then just declined all the cards given. I dont think this is an option anymore as im pretty sure upto 9 card removal for a single relic is WAY overpowered
the only problems i have with WR like this are that when the glitch used to get it is removed (not taking cards glitch using the map key) then it is near impossible for other to compete. with that in mind each time a WR making/breaking glitch is found/removed it changes the entire game for speedrunning. honestly the pandoras box glitch alone is equivalent to remtoving 9 cards leaving you with only a single hand.
if it was seeded, i don’t see why they wouldn’t try again. this run was amazing but not entirely flawless, some seconds could be shaved. and we all know how speedrunners feel about shaving seconds
Actually you can downgrade any games on steam to a previous version, there's a guide right here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1086279994 It's just a bit complicated and ideally you would want to backup your current game files in case anything happens
@@matheusandim What's the glitch? Skipping the card transformation from pandora's box at 1:50? (Reduces his deck from like 12 cards to 4 cards instantly)
Yep, this also holds for Duplication Potions, and the "play twice" cards (Double Tap, Burst, Echo Form, Omniscience -- although Omniscience is pretty expensive so you need a lot of energy to then use an X-cost card effectively). Super powerful combo if you can set it up
glich speedrun in a game like this, is not so excited. But need to say, congratulations, i am several hours playing this hell game and have not yet finished it. A lot of dedication to do this speedrun, rly congratulation!
Its a known bug and an exploit speedrunners use. If u press the map key (not sure about this) when its supposed to show you the cards that were transformed you just lose all of them instead of keeping them in the deck. So you are left with only the stuff you added + bash.
Here with a really late analysis After watching at 0.25x he had opened the map when he took the box and it gave him the cards but he hit the return button from the map deleting them.
1:50 Someone explain to me how transforming all strikes and defends somehow instead removed them from the deck, because I'm very confused. Was that a glitch that happened at the time, or am I missing some interaction somewhere?
I guess it was a glitch involving exiting before the cards are actually added to the deck? They returned to the map before seeing them, so that’s all I can imagine
Thumos that’s what I was thinking the whole time. That flex-shockwave-necronomicon-whirlwind combo worked out pretty ideally for this type of run. If I had to guess I would wager north of 75 runs.
U forgot that Deca and Donu have artifacts- if you didn't use thunderclap in the end, you could have saved a second or two...(but you probably already know that :)
POV: You're chillin in the spire and some warrior comes beyblading in jacked up with steroids and holding a cursed book. You die moments later.
Jaxxed and tan, blade whirling like a storm
In the time it would take for this guy to beat the game 5 times, I'd be sitting there still trying to decide if I want to bash lagavulin or block
Almost same though
Easily 1+ hour run. I cant even with that shelled bastard.
lol yeah. Also I'd still lose the run anyways
True
I think that bash is a block anyways
You can tell at the end, he just jumped out of his chair in excitement
This is incredible, in every sense of the word. You've taken a game that takes me over an hour to beat and did it in less time than it takes for me to make popcorn.
id recommend opening fast mode (or whatever you call it) to up ur speed. Before i took 70 min to beat, after fast mode about 45 min.
Michael Meng fast mode doesnt change much of your time, that's been a while that most of my runs are sub 30 minutes, and i don't use fast mode. It's more about practice than software.
You're probably right lol. I just got the game for a few hours when I posted the previous comment, and 10 hours into the game I find myself on Act 3 often around the 20 minute mark. So gameplay is definitely more vital to time.
I usually do my popcorn at 2min 30 sec, more than 4min 30 sec is gonna burn your popcorn.
@@usr196 But then there's the walk back and forth to the kitchen, which is a minute away, and a few seconds to get the unpopped popcorn out of the closet.
My average clear time is literally 4:30. 4 hours and 30 minutes
I watched this video on 0.5 speed because he did everything so damn fast, and i just wanted to try and understand what he is doing, jesus christ this is amazing
Same and i still didn't understand a thing
@@AttilaVoices He's basically doing the following:
- Skip as many fights as possible by hitting question marks
- Defend as little as possible to save rounds in fights
- Search for the exact card build he got (strong turn 1 AoE)
- Keep the deck minimal and never pick up cards that don't fit the build (he used some glitch to avoid picking up transformed cards)
- Use tricks to skip as many animations as possible (like pressing m after fights to quickly get to the next point on the map)
for those still wondering, there was a bug that let you cancel out of dialogs/choices, it's used 2x here: one to cancel the transform on pandora's box which ends up removing all strikes/defends, and one that cancels receiving the curse on necronomicon. Patched out, which is why this run uses the unpatched version.
At that point it's just str buffing, vulnerable, and philosophers stone on 3rd map to wombo combo every time.
you could easily theoretically get faster just with better RNG in shops and card rewards (if you get buffed cards you don't need to spend any time in smithing and could potentially buy a relic that is better gold spent) but the odds of even getting THIS rng (with glitches version) is pretty low to begin with to somehow improve on that... pretty low chance.
The only thing I had trouble following was the Pandora’s Box glitch. He was halfway through the City by the time I realized he was on a 5-card deck and I had to rewind and re-watch that part about 4 times before I realized what was going on.
Felt mildly cheated at first, because I thought I’d been missing out on the option to just dump all my strikes and defends for free off a single relic, but reading that it’s a patched-out glitch makes me feel slightly better now. 😅
@@OneBiasedOpinion I was trying to figure that out but still haven't fully understood what happened. How did he go from 12 to 4 cards ?
@@PMCPN "for those still wondering, there was a bug that let you cancel out of dialogs/choices, it's used 2x here: one to cancel the transform on pandora's box which ends up removing all strikes/defends... Patched out, which is why this run uses the unpatched version.
"
Idk for sure how the glitch works, but og comment pretty clearly says that it cancels the transforming of the blocks and strikes halfway through which removes them but doesn't add the transformed versions
You completed this game in the time it takes me to get through a single encounter in act 2. Well played.
A single encounter? You must roll terrible decks
@@gothenmosph5151 You must have no manners. (Or a sense of humor, if you were to say this was a joke)
@@vitorodino8760 you don't have a sense of humor yourself, it was a joke
@@gothenmosph5151 ur trans
this increased my anxiety
This man always has lethal on deck.
*takes 5-7 minutes to beat bosses and elites* *this person literally smashes them in seconds*
Yeah, I tried to make a deck with the Silent with only 5 cards using the one card that does 50 damage to all enemies if your hand is empty but I was never able to thin down my deck enough
Wow congrats. The 3 floor was amazing i doubt anybody is gonna Beat that spontan.
he can't discern english from german, poor soul is stuck in a limbo
spontan = not deliberately, spontaneously;
it's a very common german word
i didn't even relize he cleared floor 2 i was like ah ok so 5 months ago the spire had only 2 floors
Natsu Drachenkind I
@@jhonnylee6685
for me it was similar. after he defeated donu and deca i thought why u stop you loose time.. oh that were already 3 floors.. oh
Ah, I see that mom told you to sleep in five minutes.
I thought I was watching on x2 speed. Damn good job man!
Yes, good job video-editing. It's obviously fake if you pay attention.
@@20catsRPG just because you're slow as fuck doesn't mean everyone else is. I'm pretty slow and I still managed the sub 20 minute achievement.
@@20catsRPG whoever you are I hope you analyze who you are and eventually decide what to do with your life.
@@20catsRPG I know it was a long time ago you made that comment, but do you care to point out any specific moments where it was faked?
It finally happened. The madman...
what a knowledge of the game man im stuned
Congrats man!
I was going to cook me some ramen and watch this, but came back and it was over. Huh
This game actually plays really well on consoles
And on mobile :)
videos rock, love to watch them
this sounds like a kit kat commercial
this dude's eye-hand coordination is unmatched
Guys, how did his deck go from 12 cards to 4 cards at 1:49?
Is taking the cards Pandoras box gives voluntary? If so it's one of the best relics in the game lmao
I wondered that too.
pandora's box glitch. removes all strikes and defends.
@@mwd0884 thanks bruh
@@mwd0884 can you still do the glitch?
@@YahLovesYou86 no idea, you can probably google some speedrunning guides that's where i found it
Literally cannot even beat act 3 and it's been weeks since I got this game. Dude does it in 4 mins, np
rip dude try to go for 1 energy relic and 1 utility
Keep trying man. It truly does get better :)
I was surprised there were 40 minute clear achievement, came youtube to see example, and here is under 5 minutes...
That was insane!
That was fantastic!
WAIT YOU FORGOT APOTHEOSI-
Oh wait... you’re already killing everything.
I guess you’re just too good to get it...
whats the point of apotheosis when all your deck is already upgraded ? lol
@@Dylems
i think you dont get the point here. Its
APOTHEOSIS
(*golden noises*)
one does not simply not get his hands on the most powerful and shiny card in the game
@@leichtgesalzener-kabeljaurogge lol
So-called "free thinkers" when Apotheosis appears in the shop
How did you got rid of your cards at the end of 1st floor? Is it a bug?
I was confused as well. Till i went back and watched it in 0.25 speed. He transformed the strikes and defends and then just declined all the cards given. I dont think this is an option anymore as im pretty sure upto 9 card removal for a single relic is WAY overpowered
@@Robertfunman12300 Yea its a glitch with pandora's box that was in the game a while ago where you could remove all strikes and defends
@@georgehall1669 is it patch now ?
Looks like a similar bug was used to dodge the Necronomicurse as well.
@@emlun Necronomivurse only exists on higher ascension levels.
I refuse to believe this guy isn't living on fast forward.
Holy s**t this makes my playthroughs look pathetic. I definitely learned a lot from this though. Well done
as someone who has never seen this game before. This is absolutely going too quick for me.
as someone who regularly plays this game, this is absolutely too quick for me
Finally got into this game now that it's on mobile... I felt like I was bad at this before I watched this, now I realize I'm terrible!
If he didn't get ceasing top, it would have been even faster. Ceasing top added draw animation after every turn.
the only problems i have with WR like this are that when the glitch used to get it is removed (not taking cards glitch using the map key) then it is near impossible for other to compete. with that in mind each time a WR making/breaking glitch is found/removed it changes the entire game for speedrunning. honestly the pandoras box glitch alone is equivalent to remtoving 9 cards leaving you with only a single hand.
Different patches have different leaderboards, no?
the rng gods look upon you with favor
I’m not even sure what I just watched but it sure was fast!
Ironclad's avatar looks like ZAAA WAAAUUURRRDOOOOO !
Doc: You have 4 minutes and 30 seconds to live...
Me: ^
I’ve been interested in knowing, are y’all speedrunners chill with one another? Like is it friendly competition or?
More proof that aliens exist on earth
Woaw, that's...fast.
He made this game looked like a piece of cake
OH MY GOD
This is what core a gaming described as honers
I've just bought this game last week and to be honest, I do not understand a thing in this vid - but GREAT :)
This must be a replayed seed, no? If not fucking amazing. Hell its amazing regardless, either way.
if it was seeded, i don’t see why they wouldn’t try again. this run was amazing but not entirely flawless, some seconds could be shaved. and we all know how speedrunners feel about shaving seconds
This is insane
Wow. That whirlwind.
Amazing shit
That was impressive
Doctor: you have five minutes left to live
Me:
I can't even beat the game when I take my sweet ass time feels bad
WP played m8
What the fuuuuuck dude, that's so insane.
God. That was a lot.
damn that pandora's box exploit foes crzy
Is there any way to obtain the update that still has the Pandora's box glitch? The beta tab in properties on steam doesn't seem to have it.
No not yet. Someone is working on a patcher so people can play older versions. I have it because I kept the old jar file
Actually you can downgrade any games on steam to a previous version, there's a guide right here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1086279994
It's just a bit complicated and ideally you would want to backup your current game files in case anything happens
How many times you try find Seed with these specific Relics? Neow's Lament and Pandora's box on the end of first Act?
When you have to save the world from apocalyptic doom before breakfast XD
A crazed man has been climbing up the spire at a rapid rate, destroying anything in his path. More at eleven
Someone really needs to make a video deconstructing this.
In game timer says 4:26, Pretty sure if the game tracks played time that it can be used.
I had to play it in 0.5 speed to realize what's happening
His mask almost looks like Dio's stand from jojo
KONO DIO DA
I'm looking for this
This is insane xD
this mans insane
Phenomenal
Damn I want to see him destroy the heart
Can someone explain why is this in the any% category? I don't think I noticed anything fishy
Edit: nvm
no ascension / act 4
And because he used a glitch
@@matheusandim What's the glitch? Skipping the card transformation from pandora's box at 1:50?
(Reduces his deck from like 12 cards to 4 cards instantly)
@@WildlyStapled That was definitely a glitch and people are saying that it has been patched
Ben R act 4 wasn't in the game back then
ascension was around however so it is any%
If only Northernlion could do this just once. All faith would be restored.
huh so the necronomicon works with X cost cards? I wouldnt have guessed since they use up all the energy on the first cast.
Yep, this also holds for Duplication Potions, and the "play twice" cards (Double Tap, Burst, Echo Form, Omniscience -- although Omniscience is pretty expensive so you need a lot of energy to then use an X-cost card effectively). Super powerful combo if you can set it up
I wonder how many milliseconds not taking ceaseless top would've saved
hell yeah dude
At 22 sec it sounds like the shopkeeper says "fuck off" lol
im still waiting for someone to beat this
Blew my mind WOW
W O A H
glich speedrun in a game like this, is not so excited. But need to say, congratulations, i am several hours playing this hell game and have not yet finished it. A lot of dedication to do this speedrun, rly congratulation!
1:50, wait, how it resulted in 12 > 4-card deck?
cuz the relic, the relic transforms all the Strikes and Defense cards into a rare one
Its a known bug and an exploit speedrunners use. If u press the map key (not sure about this) when its supposed to show you the cards that were transformed you just lose all of them instead of keeping them in the deck. So you are left with only the stuff you added + bash.
@@DeathOfThePuppets does it still work?
@@IAmHukumka No, they fixed it a few months ago.
@@likeWeird it should still work if you go to Settings, go to Input, then go back to the game
how did you go from 12 cards to 4 between the 1st and 2nd level?
I think it was when he opened the Pandora Box relic. Then i noticed he only had the 4 cards
Here with a really late analysis
After watching at 0.25x he had opened the map when he took the box and it gave him the cards but he hit the return button from the map deleting them.
1:50 Someone explain to me how transforming all strikes and defends somehow instead removed them from the deck, because I'm very confused. Was that a glitch that happened at the time, or am I missing some interaction somewhere?
I guess it was a glitch involving exiting before the cards are actually added to the deck? They returned to the map before seeing them, so that’s all I can imagine
It's a known bug, I forget it if was patched
@@noahaist9401 bug
Intense
Such speed
Such power
So perfect
Is that move with pandoras box a bug/exploit or is that intentional
Card removal, *the game.*
So in other words necronomicon is a fair and balanced relic
literally wat
I mean, well done, but holy fuck things have to drop perfectly. Do I even wanna know how many tries this took?
Thumos that’s what I was thinking the whole time. That flex-shockwave-necronomicon-whirlwind combo worked out pretty ideally for this type of run. If I had to guess I would wager north of 75 runs.
Speerunners are the most hardcore player, i believe this is much more than 75 tries, more like 750
@@AdrienBurg geez
@@davidwhite5180 Was it a random seed?
I had to pause multiple times to read choices.
How did he negate the curse from necro?
U forgot that Deca and Donu have artifacts- if you didn't use thunderclap in the end, you could have saved a second or two...(but you probably already know that :)
amazing
Nice
my brain exploded
How did you go from having 12 cards at the end of the first act to having 4 cards at the beginning of the second? What sorcery was that?
Here to ask this. I don't understand how that happened after he grabbed pandora's box
It’s a glitch that speed runners use that exploits Pandora’s
Box.
I had to put this on 0.5 speed to see what's going on and even then it was difficult.
What is the relic that does so much damage to all enemies at the end of your turn??
Thats a lot of damage holy fuck
Did pandora use to give you the option to only take the transformed cards if you want? Because I dont think it is like that right now
What seed is this? (because I know its a custom one...)