Here’s how Merkur became Ford’s second-worst brand failure
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In this episode I provide the history of Merkur, a sub-brand under Lincoln-Mercury between 1985 and 1990. Merkur only had two models, the XR4Ti and the Scorpio, both of which were imported from Germany. However their high prices and unusual looks eventually killed the brand, making it the second-worst brand failure Ford had, second only to the Edsel. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
South Africa got a limited edition version with a Mustang V8.
It's called the XR8
Die beste Sierra wat daar ooit gebou was.
@@Rouxenator yeah totally man
@@Rouxenator say less my guy
@@Rouxenator ar yeas
That was a mighty car, although the engine was so heavy that you had to be a little bit careful with your speed when going around corners, it just wanted to plow straight on at anything over 60kph. And the brakes weren't too good either. Didn't a road tester for Car magazine manage to total one of the press cars, or am I remembering that wrong?
Guy in my neighborhood still drives a merkur xr4ti really cool to see it still running
My uncle had one, we rode in it a bunch when we visited him in Texas.
I thought it was interesting , he was into it.
2.3 turbo was a decent engine , another buddy's dad had a new turbo coupe we got our mitts on but that's another story.
Top speed was verified alot though. 🤣
@@MrTheHillfolk haha that’s awesome my uncle had a merkur xr4ti as well it was an electrical nightmare but then again my uncle bought it used in the late 90s so it was already falling apart
I wouldn't mind finding one and dropping in a 2.3 Ecoboost crate engine from Ford Performance Parts. Then again, the same thing could be done with an old 80s Fox Mustang or even a Pinto or Mustang 2.
The old Ford 2.3 Turbo were “quick, but sloppy”. Even with a carb or FI, they demand regular oil changes or they would sludge up and starve the overhead cam for oil. Adding the extra heat from the turbo just made the problem worse, along with the hard driving that one would assume a turbo charged “performance car” would be designed to endure, the engine just couldn’t survive. You can only go so far with cheap and dirty performance tricks on a Pinto/Mustang II 4 banger!
I bet Jim Rome, sports talk host, would do A podcast interview with him, and ask how, what, when on how he kept it running...maybe throw some cash his way too...just to find those secrets...He had A real Lemon one...has named his staff ...
the xr4ti crew....lol
My uncle was a Ford executive and so he always had different company cars and when he came over in the Scorpio I had to wash it because at the time it was the only excuse I could come up with to get behind that wheel and it was at the time the most luxurious and interesting car I had ever driven. It felt solid when most Fords outside of the panther cars felt sorta hollow.
Which panther?
@@STSmithable the panther platform. Aka Ford Crown Vic , Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis and Mercury Marauder.
Had an XR4TI and loved it.
@@stephenrye6474 Jim Rome owned one and talked about its problems on his sports talk radio show
And people loved the panther platform during that time. I
I owned an 89. I live in an area with loads of hills and curvy roads. The 2.3l intercooled turbo was the perfect car for here. My only issue was having to turn or replace the rotors constantly despite downshifting the manual tranny. That and fuel pump failures. Outside of those issues it was the most fun driving car I’ve owned outside of some trucks I’ve hot-rodded.
The XR4Ti stood for X Rally 4cyl turbocharged intercooled.
I'm 49 and saw several of these as a kid and appreciated them because they were rear wheel drive and really sporty.
I’m 45 and I got to ride in one when my Dad test drove one. We both loved it but my Mom put a stop to him buying it because she wanted a four door
Ford Sierra here in the uk, the xr4i was good.
The cosworth incredible! RS500 to die for!
Love Merkurs! I saw a lady driving a Scorpio last weekend and I freaked out. Haven't seen one in decades.
My dad bought an '88 Scorpio in the late 90's at a car auction. We had no idea about the brand or what we were getting into at the time, but it was really nice to drive and came with a lot of fancy features.
Unfortunately it was prone to issues. The first time the flywheel broke, it took a few months before my dad could source one and install it. I still remember the day he drove it out of the garage after all his hard work repairing it -- he backed into our snow plow and scraped the driver's door 😆 Took equally as long finding someone who could work with the paint.
Then the flywheel broke a second time. I ended up bringing one home from Germany when I was on an high school exchange. That was interesting - going to a Ford dealer with my limited language skills and asking for a "Schwungrad". We never ended up installing it, instead my dad sold it to a guy who was into Merkurs so I like to think that car still had some years on the road.
Nice Story! I live in Germany and they were common, regular 'ford' cars here. As a kid I liked these, too bad you don't see them anymore. My first car was also a ford, great driver cars👍😊
@@simonlangner i bought one for 2 grand. I had no idea what it was. It was awesome.
@@KingPrintmaker Sounds nice👍 How long did you keep it?
I saw few Merkurs, both of these privately imported used from America to Europe. I can also remember the british version named as Scorpio-Granada. From the continental european standpoint those were rare Fords to be seen.
I tried to talk my Dad into buying a Scorpio in 1988. They were very popular at the time, sporty with good performance. He bought a stylish Mercury Cougar with a vinyl top. He was right. He kept that car until 2002, never had any problems.
Sterling would definitely make a great video! Another good one I might suggest is Daihatsu. The last Japanese automaker to enter the US market and the first one to leave.
One of the reasons those two, as well as Peugeot, failed here due to bad parts supply chains. "Something broke on your 405 or 505, Monsieur? See you in 6 weeks." Daihatsus got so bad that Pep Boys wouldn't even touch them after a while.
DAE-WOOOO!!!
Damn. I haven’t heard that name in a while.
@@tonybucca5667 THAT'S the one that was such shit when it hit our shores! Not Daihatsu. They were actually alright.
The Sterlings were SWEET: great platform, lovely interior...British electronics and gizmos, ugh.
It wasn't just the price and the looks, it was legendary unreliability too. I worked with a guy that had one, bought it brand new in '88. In the 2 years he had it, it spent just as much time at the dealer as it did in his garage. He finally grew tired of the constant problems, and traded it in.
which is weird because in Europe it had a completely different engine, drive train, electric...... oooooh lol
lol
I bought one of these used when it was 4 years old. I had no issues with it and put 45k miles on it. 70k total miles when I sold it for the same price I paid for it.
@@akshonclip Yep, and somewhere in America there's a guy that drove a Yugo for 200K with nary a problem either. My point; you're the exception, not the norm.
@@justsumguy2u I beg to disagree. Your buddy was most likely the exception. Secondly I have first hand experience, you have third party hearsay
As a Sterling owner, I would love a Sterling video.
I remember the Merkur. I've known people who owned some. The XR4Ti and the Scorpio. I found them both to be awesome cars. Since I was too young at the time to drive a car, I couldn't say what they were like to drive or own. But those who I knew who owned them found them to be awesome cars, as reliable as you'd expect a car to be. The only thing we didn't appreciate about the cars was its name: Merkur. We were like *"What?!* *"What the hell is a Merkur?!"* or *"Where did that name come from?"* If it was a Ford car, we thought Ford should've sold it either as a Ford brand car, or possibly a Mercury brand car. But a "Merkur"? What?! The same was true for the Scorpio. It was a fun car to ride in and quite comfortable. I found it attractive from every angle, except from the rear of the car. I did like its appearance from the front and from the side of the car, reminding me of the Mercury Sable of the time. Why neither sold well here in the USA is beyond me. They were way better than the Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury cars that were already sold.
The Merkur brand is truly a hidden gem I wish that the brand would have lived on a little longer.
Sadly the FORD world cars followed. So would be relevant.
@@MaximilianvonPinneberg It was a simple mistake of marketing, not design.
Ehh. We ended up getting German Ford's later on. They were just marketed as Ford's. My Fusion is a real "Fusion". German/American engineering, Mexican built, with a mixture of German, Mexican, and American parts. The Fiestas and Focus's were just Mexican built German Ford's, the last two gen Ford Escapes are American built German Ford Kugas. Now all we have from Ford Germany are the Escape, and the Indian built EcoSport.
if it had the focus would most likely be a merkur as well as fiesta and the european kuga and i bet the puma would of gone over too to
I too wish the brand would’ve lasted longer because the name did indeed sound upscale and it rolls off the tongue so easily if you know what you’re talking about. They had plans to bring the Sierra Sapphire here as the next Merkur car but alas it never happened. Just think if it had come here though, it would’ve been great to go alongside the luxurious Scorpio. I honestly think the wrong ppl are running these damned car companies. Merkur’s demise really makes me sad to this day 🥲
My parents had a XR4Ti and a Scorpio.
Both were great driving vehicles when they weren't in the shop....
My brother in law had a XR4Ti it was just like my Ford Ranger great little vehicle when it was running or another way “runs good just don’t start”.
I have an xr4ti. You have never been so right my friend. This car stayed in the shop. Electrical problems, exhaust problems, overheating, you name it.
I knew a family who had 2 of them and yes, something was always breaking on them. One of them eventually ingested its turbocharger.
never had problems with Ford engines. We had Escort, Fiesta, Orion, Sierra, Granada, Mondeo, Transit, and a Fordson. Reason why my dad bought Ford.
@@dontdenymyrighteousnesstru5608 It's a Ford, what do you expect? :) All part of the fun!
Had an 86 XR4TI and added a Rapido group intercooler. Great power and handling! Traded when second child came along. Always liked the styling of the Capris and Granadas back in the 70's.
What I recall about these cars were a couple things. A. Sky high price tag. B. You couldn't get parts, at least the ones to fix the Euro portion of the car. I remember that though certain Lincoln Mercury dealers would be happy to sell you 1, their service depts wouldn't touch them beyond oil changes...
sheesh i figured, Mini American cars are on European platform/architecture hence expensive repairs The parts availability and intensive labor
I remember as a kid being able to say "Merkur: correctly and absolutely loving these cars. I wanted one really badly because I thought they were unique and ahead of their time. Plus I like the way they looked.
I don't know if anyone had any issue pronouncing "Merkur".... if they did, chances are they were not in a position to buy one.
Me too. It looked like the future.
I remember the first time I ever saw a new Merkur Xr4ti. It was unique, you could tell it was a German car. Always wanted one, but unfortunately, it never happened. But I do have it's cousin, '84 Mustang SVO!
The SVO was better. At least it got a baby intercooler.
I had an 84 SVO as well. Very powerful for it's time. I also worked at a Ford dealership in the 90's and had an opportunity to work on and drive some of the XR4TI's. They are completely different feeling vehicles which surprised me. I thought they would be more similar.
@@1984xlx XR4TI had a degree of road feel that made most American cars feel like waterbed mattresses or like go carts.
Mine would leave almost anything American in the bends.
@@greasyrib mine had an intercooler
@@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 they didn't come with stock intercooler. If there was one it was likely grafted from an SVO or a Turbo Coupe, Or a Rapido Unit if it was up front.
whilst working as a jockey for Lincoln in 1987, I drove several XR4Tis and Scorpios. Those were fantastic cars.
I love my 1989 Ford/Merkur Sierra Xr4ti
I remember seeing a Scorpio up close for the first time around '95. It was at an auto auction, steering column all busted up, likely having been stolen and recovered. Just falling apart inside. It was so beautiful but in such a sad state.
These cars were massive sellers here in the UK, there was Cosworth versions of both the Sierra and Scorpio. The Scorpio was also know as the Granada in Europe, think the Scorpio was just the more luxury version. The saloon was known as the Sapphire, the Cosworth Sapphire were really quite common and very fast for the day, I think they made about 200Bhp which was really good for that era, as the car was pretty small and light, well by US standards anyway, it was looked at as a decent sized car in Europe, as we are used to driving really small cars.
I knew this woman when I was 19 and she asked me:
"Hey, do you know this car called an Exeratti? Is it a good car?"
Me: "Exeratti? Never heard of it. Sounds Italian"
Later, she pointed out an Xr4ti.
My buddy's sister had one back then and she was asked the very same question by someone while she was at a gas station!
Two of my girlfriends asked me that exact same question.
Xr4ti, the car for Executive Rats!
@@arx3516 SMH.
Thought it was XRATi too at first lol. The 4 kind of looked like an A lol.
I really really wanted one of the XR4ti's when i was a kid, at the time they looked so damn cool. I t was about the closed we ever got to that rally Escort back then
The post-XR4i (usually called "saloon" in the UK) performance Sierra model in the UK was usually referred to as the Sierra Cosworth, and featured 4-wheel drive. When the Sierra was replaced in Europe by the Mondeo there was no XR4i or Cosworth replacement. The 1992 Escort Cosworth for Europe was the spiritual and performance successor and actually used a development of the Sierra Cosworth Chassis over a hand-built Escort-style body.
The word “ marque” is actually pronounced “mark”. The pronunciation you are using is for the similarly spelled “marquee” as in a theater marquee. 👍🏻
You beat me to it!!
I heard it as «marquis», which fit well with a couple car models. Means a sort of count or lower noble title.
Marquis has long been a Mercury name. I have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis.
@@geraldscott4302 But that's not what he is saying. At 0:25 the narrator says "...the end result were [sic] two cars with a name no one could pronounce, and a failed MARQUE [meaning a make of car] after only four years." Not Marquis.
@@deliuslyndon8340 Yes, marque does mean "brand" But the word ""marquis" however you spell it was mentioned too. As for why nobody could pronounce it, I never understood that. They pronounced it clearly in the commercials. I remember back in the '70s when nobody could not pronounce "Isuzu" either. I never owned one, but I actually kind of liked that car. It had 2 doors, rear wheel drive, and a manual transmission. Could have been a lot of fun. Might have succeeded with a different name.
I had a white '86. What a fun car. A little under-powered but it had exceptional handling. And a fun little joystick to position the stereo's fader/balance.
I had an 88' XR4TI and loved it and the Scorpio! Its what turned me onto German cars and haven't looked back! And would buy another if they ever came back!
if only they gave it a decent engine like the Sierra Cosworth
strange we had a Sierra 20i and it rand very smooth. How fast do you drive on normal streets?
@@decnijfkris3706 too fast. It was a half baked sports car.. No intercooler or lsd, drum brakes, sohc. Almost cost as much as the 325i at the time. I'm sure it was smooth at the time 😂
There was nothing wrong with the FORD V6 Essex engine whatsoever. Dropped plenty of Granada and Capri V6,s into Cortina,s and swapped the front wiring harness for the injection system into them..
The XR4i was just a engine carried over from them..
An if you really want to be brave a Windsor V8 drop's straight in on the mountings with a bell housing swap.
@@tonysilliker5977? The merkur had the non intercooler turbo 4
It was this car where Jim Rome gave his radio crew it's name. They're called the XR4Ti because Rome bought that car to make him look cool, but then it turned into a piece of crap.
Outstanding! I always wanted an XR4Ti!! Thank you for the trip down memory lane!!
I always remember this as the starter car for Midnight Club 2, the cocotte
I always loved the XR4TI and Scorpio!,but like the Tucker of 1948,they were great engineerd cars that were to ahead of it's time.
So far, I'm in love with the compact car scene. Especially these Euro cars. Don't have to worry about having a V8 when you have a stylish (and cute) car with a turbo 4 or a diesel lol
Ever since I was like 14 and this dude took me for a ride in an 83 GTI, I hadda have one.
I woulda never believed if I didn't experience it, but it would toast late model 5.0s till about 65-70mph.
Of course the brain was working on how much more power vs how much more you could hold the gap for.
@@MrTheHillfolk which gti the golf? because Peugeot also did a load of gtis too
@@LordInter
Yep it's the only GTI we got here in the states.
@@MrTheHillfolk oh no, you missed out on the peugeot 205 and 405 GTis, better handling and larger engines (eventually) arguably one of the best handling cars of the 80s and 90s the 205, 19.ltr engines in a car weighing about 10lbs or something :)
@@LordInter yeah but we didn't get any of those in the states.
The apartment building I lived at 10 years ago. There were 3 of them lined up in the long term parking lot. It's only because I drove by them everyday that I even knew this brand existed.
Hi I own the white ford sierra 2.0 ghia estate in your video .I'm in London England .I bought the car 6 +years ago as a stock car and transformed it in to a full cosworth replica estate including all the running gear .she now has a full yb cosworth turbo engine from HARTPOWER putting out in excess of 400 bhp .a far cry from the 115 bhp 4 cylinder pinto engine she left the factory with. I recently did a you tube video with Adam Smith on my cosworth sierra estate F20YBT be sure to check it out .👍
In the UK we got scorpios and sierras with cosworth engines. The Scorpio had a 2.9L cosworth V6 and you could get a sierra RS cosworth , RS500 or the Sierra sapphire cosworth (sedan version) with the YBD engine and 4x4 or RWD. The RS500 in moonstone blue is my favourite ever car, aside from a Ferrari F40
my brother had an xr4i, the thing was a monster 😊
I prefer the white on the sierras
dont forget the escort xr3i and cosworths and the rear of the rare xr3i orion which my gran had she traded it in for a mitsubishi gallant
I used to have an Orion 1600e, with a 2.0L
N/A ZVH (Zetec-CVH hybrid) engine. Had uprated cams, full 4 branch manifolds, forged internals and all the other port/polish etc. Was about 175bhp at the wheels. It was a really good sleeper car.
Ford really well in the UK.
Now the Cosworth, sapphire, 4x4 etc are worth a great deal of money for a 30-year-old car.
This car was still on the road when I was stationed in Germany in the army.
I've always really liked the look of the XR4TI. It would be great to have one now.
I bought one new in the late 80s, on a dealer closeout for about 15k. It was a fun car, that i feel was ahead of its time, getting many compliments over the years. The biggest drawback were expensive parts and the Lincoln Dealerships, rolling their eyes, when i brought it in for service, because they didn't want to deal with them, especially after they had been discontinued in the US. !!!
I tried to get a deal on a new leftover XR4Ti in 1987 but no dice. I told salesman I could do a lot better on a new Mustang GT. He said go for it. So I did at the competing Ford dealership. Did me a big favor!
@@johnmcmullen456 indeed he did. I'm guessing your Mustang was much more Reliable and Cheaper to fix, then my XR4TI, ever dared to be !!
Subbed. NOBODY talks about merkur or sterling! The cars not the diesel trucks!
I’d love to see a video on the AMC/Renault Alliance and Encore. I had an 86 Alliance 1.7. It was light, somewhat peppy and tossable for the time, however; the built quality and materials were dismal.
I always wanted to drive the final performance iteration, the 2.0L GTA coupe.
I can remember when they arrived at the dealership I worked at. The XR4TI was a fun car to drive. We had previously dealt with the 2.3L turbos that had carburetors and had a lot of issues with drivability. So it was a nice change to have a decent fuel injection system and turbocharger even though it still had a pinto motor. Of course there was the big issue with the leather upholstery shrinking to the point that it would split. We did a lot of upholstery kits on that car. The Scorpio on the other hand did not sell well at all. I think I remember maybe two at the dealership. The first one was given to the local newspaper for a review. That didn't go well. The key which was shaped like an old 18th century skeleton key broke off in the door. It sat in the corner of the shop for weeks waiting for a duplicate key because there was nobody that could make one. I'd be willing to bet that today you can't get one at all.
Nice video. I liked that you covered the European range and versions at the end. The Scorpio in Europe was actually a trim level of the mk3 Ford Granada, and there was also a 2.9i V6 Cosworth version. The Granada name was dropped for the unloved mk4 in favour of the Scorpio name. The original 3 door Cosworth Sierra ("the Cossie") was, I understand, the most stolen car in the UK in the 1980s, mainly for joyriding. This was replaced by the 4 door Sierra Sapphire Cosworth saloon, which was slightly tamer and more respectable looking, but just as lovely.
Despite the piss poor marketing, these were awesome cars. You could make 300hp at the wheels very easily with basic bolt ons.
I probably would have bought the 4 door over the coup and if it was named Ford as well
When I was in college, I was sent a floppy disk that contained a presentation on how great the Merkur XR4TI was. The presentation compared the Merkur to a BMW and Mercedes.I just remember thinking how weird it looked. It also gave me the impression that it was called a Mercury Merkur XR4TI. I didn’t clue in that the Merkur was its own brand.
We had a Scorpio when I was a kid, after the brand had died and they were trying to unload them all. I think my Dad paid 16 grand? And he got them to give him the Mercedes trade in value later :) Used to love showing off the electrically reclining rear seats to my friends.
I had an 88 Merkur Scorpio. Much cooler than a Taurus, but had catastrophic issues with only 30k miles. I doubt there's a drivable Scorpio out there
There are at least 100-500 left, many have been spotted on the road on Instagram and one was on sale recently on cars and bids
I had an 88 Scorpio as well. I must have gotten one of the only ones without issues. Pretty much bullet proof until it got to 189k miles on it, then I couldn't keep it out of the shop. I loved that car tho.
@@DaewooFestiva23 Wrong.
The biggest problem with the XR4TI was: the basic car - Sierra- never meant to be the main BMW competition in Europe (OK maybe Cosworth version) . But the basic 3-door Sierra could've been a great car to compete with Tempo/Topaz coupe actually.
The Sierra brochure You used in this video is definately not from Germany.
Yes, it was in Dutch.
Never knew much about these, someone in my dorm about 10 years ago had a red XR4TI and I remember being puzzled at it looking like a Ford (having been familiar with those Cosworth models from racing games) but having the name Merkur.
Never looked into it but now I know! Thanks.
Great video, I'll be waiting for that Sterling video. I had a coworker in the late '80's that drove one, and really loved it...Seems like I remember it being a venture between Rover and Honda.
I loved the Scorpio. Practical and still had a sedan look to it even though it was a hatchback.
My buddy had an XR4Ti in high school. It was a great-running, good-handling car for (back then) cheap. Pretty fast outright, but downright hot on a country road. Great car, too bad they were such hunks of crap, haha!
I subscribed after the first minute. Keep it coming. Love the obscure car culture.
The Sierra was available in estate form from the start of its in run in 1982/3. The saloon was introduced in 1987 after the whole range was facelifted.
I always thought these were sharp looking cars back in the day. The Xr4ti looked great in black
All black with the painted bumpers.
When I was a kid I wanted one of these. Lol. I'm glad I was too young at the time to make that mistake.
I bet you'd still want the proper Sierra RS Cosworth though, which is what should have been imported at the time.
They're mega bucks now, an RS500 with 42,000 miles on the clock for sale on the UK auto trader site now for £88,950 ($123,506). The more common Sapphire Cosworth (sedan Sierra) go for minimum £30,000+ with over 100,000 miles on the clock.
I remember being 11 and 12 years old and wanting one of these. I thought that Sterling car was pretty stylish, too. Little did I know they weren't great cars.
they are great cars actually, in europe they were called the Sierra - they were extremely popular, used as family cars and race cars and drift cars, they could literlly be everything
@@IrishWannabe I was reading how compared to it's Japanese cousin, the Acura Legend, the Sterling had loads of quality control issues. Even simple things like gas gauges not working and the glove box getting stuck. Not something you'd expect in a car of that cost.
lmaoo
My first car was a 92 Ford Tempo, use to be my parents, they bought it new and was given to me! Love a vid on the tempo! Such an amazing car! I had a baby blue colored one.
Growing up, my best friend's dad had an xr4ti. HE got it in college and all those years later it was still in good condition. We took it one summer and rebuilt it as a fathers day gift for him so he could drive it again. I loved working on that car, I loved driving that car, and I want an xr4ti so much now.
They should have imported the faster and nicer looking fast British Sierra, the Cosworth. think the Cosworth badge would have made a difference plus the car is faster and nicer looking. Ford should then have imported all the RS badged fords of UK too, the Escort RS Turbo, the original Fiesta RS Turbo and the 1990's sedan Sierra called the Sapphire Cosworth which was also 4x4 and also not forgetting the legendary Escort RS Cosworth.
If Ford had offered those models and maybe changed the name to Cosworth or even just not created a new sub brand but just brought the European/British XR and RS sports badges for standard Ford models, I'm sure they'd have been a success.
I believe they wanted to import the more powerful version, but couldn't get it to pass federal emission tests.
Edit: I doubt it would have saved the Mekur line, but if they could have found a way they could have more aggressively gone after Saab or entry level BMW customers.
The problem with that was Ford didn't want anything to bypass the mustang gt. That's why the svo was de-tuned. That got screwed up in the 90's with the taurus sho.
I want to buy a merker, but they are pricey now.
@@Soundsofthewood ,so it was like how the Corvette had to get the most power for a long time with gm with the exception of the gmc syclone, svo mustang's are sweet and really rare now and the turbo 4 had potential to out power the 5.0 if it was gnx style tuned from Ford
@@davidpistek6241 yup. The 5.0's would bust the block in half if gone past 450hp.
They only way to get past that then was to lie to the parent company. They don't want the flagship car to be less then anything else in the lineup. That really messed with pontiac till they went under.
@@Soundsofthewood the ford 4t was killing sportscar racing and exhibited alot of potential a hot xr4ti would have been really interesting especially with the Japanese bringing turbo cars in in droves and mopar running omni glh and the Buick 3.8t ,also wasn't the ta gta turbo faster than the Corvette,,,one year or was the zr1 out then
You should do a video on the Acura Vigor! My '93 was one of my favorite cars.
My uncle had a red Merkur xr4ti back in the days, it was a decent vehicle
Not quite sure how I just found this channel now, but glad I'm here!
That XR4TI was a great car....a German Version of a Mustang SVO.
Didn't The SVO had more hp than the GT Mustang?
U got bv that right as ccx well as my '88 third turbo coupe.
Handled 20psi, no problem. Hilariously fast, and a joy to beat V8's with ease.
Yes it was!!! My mom loved this car. It was the first car she purchased with her own money. It was sharp!!!
I thought they were cool as hell when I was a kid. I used to call them “exerati’s” lol
I would love to import a cosworth to the state's! Mazda miata history next.. like there's not a thousand of those out on CZcams already lol
These were very well loved Ford's this side of the pond. Here in the UK buyers loved the Sierra (the UK/European name) especially the XR4i, XR4x4 and the legendary Cosworths (RS500, hatchback Cosworth and saloon Sapphire Cosworth and 4x4 Sapphire Cosworth) The Cosworths had their spiritual home in my home county Essex along with all fast Ford's (XR2, XR3i, XR2i, RS turbo, Escort Cosworth and RS200 etc.)
That RS 500 looked pretty slick! I wouldn’t mind one of those.
Unfortunately that will run circles on any 5.0 Mustang.
Maybe if it had more spoilers and pillars.
Definitely need more spoilers.
Bob Lutz. The man when at GM (90's?) said they engineer their vehicles to last 70k miles.
He was at Chrysler then, but who cares about details right?
Back then
70,000 miles with no major Mech’s bucks problems was actually pretty good
Now you don’t even change your plugs until 100k
Street Turbo magazine ran an article on one of these with a 300z turbo motor. Super vehicle with competent handling above the 300Zx capability is how they described it. Still ...just a great personality.
I grew up with the Ford Sierra. You could even get an early one with an underpowered 1.3 litre engine in 1982/83.
Some of the lower spec Scorpios in the UK were actually badged ’Granada' until 1994.
You should try the brand sterling
Sterling Trucks ?
@@Durahan82 no
@@Durahan82 Sterling was a brand name of automobile marketed in the United States by Austin Rover Cars of North America
@@Durahan82 the brand only lasted 4 years and they only sold the Sterling 825 and the Sterling 827.
I loved Merkurs!! They looked so cool.
When I was about 12 I got to hang out with my older brother and one of his friends for the night. His friend had a XR4T and I had never heard of these. After the turbo hit I fell in love with the car lol His dad had 2 sitting in the yard for years, wish I would’ve snatched one up.
Didn't even mention the awesome handling fully independent rear suspension provided. Neither mustang or Camaro could touch it in the twisties ! Best Ford I ever bought!
Can we do one on he Dodge Monaco? My step dad got one and it never ran lol.
I take it you're an American no offence but most of the cars back then were hideous so they tried to steal the XR4I and rebrand it and bollocks that up
@@Pablo-sr2zx I was a strange car that sat in the driveway.....
Was it the one based on the Eagle Premier?
Except they were far better builds than the US built Fords, and actually more advanced.
Dam right. Old man was owner of UK Sierra's for long time. Brilliant cars. I always wanted a xr4x4i myself here but never found a good one at a sensible price.
I’ve owned several XR4Ti All with the T9. An epic car with the worst manual available🤦♂️
There is one in rock River, Wyoming I’m thinking about trying to buy
Are you serious? My dad had a sierra when it was only a couple years old. It was stolen within seconds. Not only that, the horrible cheap plastic dashboard was just rattly and the cars just rotted away anyway because it was a cheap tatty car anyway.
You're kidding right? They were junk.
How so?
There was a guy in NE Ohio who had an XR4Ti that he dropped a Mustang SVO engine into.... That car was something else.
I was in love with the XR4ti from the moment that I saw it. I got to drive an extensively used one in 1992 and it still had a lot of pep. The handling was good for the time too.
Fun Fact: Principal Skinner on The Simpsons is the proud owner of a Merkur XR4Ti.
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Why would they name it the Mercur when they already had Mercury 🤔
Exactly my thoughts. Basically dealerships were Lincoln Mercury Mercury essentially
The German name. Likely Ford hoped Mercur would be similar enough to Mercury to be recognized as a Ford marque but still have the 'panache' of German engineering.
We had an 81 Chevy Citation. They are were very popular and we saw them everywhere. I have not seen one on the road in years. I will never forget the sideways AM Radio. It was also the first front wheel drive car we owned, the transverse engine was something different we had not worked on before.
I really enjoy your channel. I'm not really a car guy I really enjoy the every Man's car cuz it's all we have thank you
I still think these are cool!
If it came out today, it would still look modern. The interior, however, is another story.
Do a video about the daewoo car brand
You do a great job with these videos! Really love them! How about the Dodge Ram 50 or Chevy S10
My husband and I tagged along with a couple we knew to meet others we knew who were camping in the early 90’s. The couple had a new XR4Ti. It was roomy, easily storing our bags in the back, and we were comfortable in the back seat on the 3 hour drive. The sound system was excellent. We always thought it was a beautiful car, especially in black. It was a head turner back then, as there weren’t too many on the road.
They looked like oversized Saabs, with dual spoilers.
Saab, yes
Whale tails and spoilers, ew
'Marque' as you're using it, is pronounced "mark"
Thank you. "Marquee" is the sign above the movie theater entrance!
The fact that it had 2 doors would make it extremely valuable today. We seriously need a major influx of 2 door cars today. Cars have become nothing more than transportation appliances. We need cars that look good and put fun back into driving.
Gerald Scott, I can't figure why everyone thinks they need a 4 door when mostly all you see on the highways are vehicles with just a driver in them, any day, any time of day.
@@johnmcmullen456 Exactly. And that also includes 4 door trucks. When I was young and grew up on a farm, pickup trucks were for hauling cargo. They had 2 doors, and a bench seat. They also had 8' beds that you could get a lot of stuff into. Up until recently I had a "REAL" pickup truck, with 2 doors and an 8' bed that I used to haul dirt bikes, a tent, tables, chairs, basically everything needed for camping. It all fit. These 4 door trucks have a 4' bed that isn't much bigger than a typical car trunk. I don't even think they should be called trucks.
One of my childhood friends parents had a XR4TI…I remember it being awesome passenger experience…recalling my 17yr old me.
I loved the XR4Ti's looks. The double spoiler was so distinctive. A guy I worked with in the mid-1990s had one. I didn't know him well, so I never got to ride in it.
Great work 💯 My Dad bought a 1989 Sterling 827 right off the showroom floor 🤦🏾♂️ and I had 2 mid ‘80s 504 Peugeot when I was 19-21. Either car would make great content 🙏🏾
I had an '88 XR4ti in white, bought it used around '92. I liked it and drove it to about 100,000 miles. It didn't give me many problems until its injectors started leaking and by then I was ready to sell it. People have said the hot engine compartment cooked batteries, and I did have to replace mine more often than typical.
I want this car ever since my dad told me about it and even with my car knowledge at the time I didn’t know what the heck it was. Now I want it even more!
Just found your channel and loving it. As a guy in my 50’s I remember a lot of these cars and owned a few myself. How about doing something on a Bertone?
The merkur xr4ti is one of the best fords ever made especially for the era. Way better than a foxbody stock for stock. I've had 10 of them . They're fantastic cars but today parts are very hard to get even engine parts are getting harder to find as the 2.3 lima is almost 40 years old and the aftermarket support isn't there. Most parts have to be imported still. I swapped my last xr4ti drivetrain into my 73 capri. That 2.3 turbo is a good combo in the little capri.
If you've had 10 of them that shows what an unreliable piece of shit the XR4ti is.
I had a friend back in the Marines in '86 in 29 Palms who had a Merkur. It was a very sharp looking car and he loved it. It seemed like a reliable car.
Yes! Please do a video on Sterling! My grandfather had two of them.