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Babylon 5 - Ivanova: Death Incarnate (Season 4, Episode 19 - Between the Darkness and the Light)

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  • čas přidán 4. 01. 2020
  • A great scene from the best show ever on television - Babylon 5!
    This scene features Claudia Christian as Commander Susan Ivanova, and Jason Carter as Ranger Marcus Cole.
    Hopefully, someday, Babylon 5 will get an HD makeover. We can dream, right?

Komentáře • 697

  • @aethertech
    @aethertech Před 2 lety +78

    God - "Look, I don't remember sending anyone, but if Ivonava says I sent her, then I sent her!"

  • @allynflinchbaugh4570
    @allynflinchbaugh4570 Před 2 lety +284

    THIS, and when Delenn shows up with the White Stars and tells the Earth Force ships that Babylon 5 is under her protection... chills.

    • @jerrytroy2677
      @jerrytroy2677 Před 2 lety +6

      Amen

    • @Zaluskowsky
      @Zaluskowsky Před 2 lety +5

      i just joined from that clip (refreshing 10x or more hehe)

    • @schumi9xwdc
      @schumi9xwdc Před rokem +1

      This scene was slightly better.

    • @NBGEEKS
      @NBGEEKS Před rokem +5

      Oh, we have the same tastes. Love both of those. Delenn and Ivonna were bad ass chicks. .

    • @davefb
      @davefb Před rokem +1

      @@Zaluskowsky haha same :D

  • @soylentteal
    @soylentteal Před rokem +29

    My favorite Ivanova line: “You are going to resist, I hope.”

    • @DewayneClark
      @DewayneClark Před 2 měsíci +6

      My fave Ivanova line is "No boom today, then boom tomorrow. Always boom tomorrow."

  • @tuchehstone
    @tuchehstone Před 3 lety +237

    "I am Death incarnate and the last living thing that you are ever going to see. God sent me."
    *Shudder*

    • @phillipbates9587
      @phillipbates9587 Před 2 lety +7

      Good quote

    • @IAmTheRealBill
      @IAmTheRealBill Před 2 lety +4

      It’s the way she says “ever” in there that does it, IMO.

    • @snajvar84
      @snajvar84 Před 2 lety +2

      Still give me goosebumps hearing her say that. I watched this show as a kid with my mom. This is what got me into liking syfi shows and movies!

    • @shalesderby
      @shalesderby Před rokem +2

      God sent her? Ivanova IS God! (Only kidding about that last bit, no offence) :)

  • @CrazyIvanovich1
    @CrazyIvanovich1 Před 3 lety +761

    People who think this delivery is bad don’t get her character. She spent her entire life suppressing emotion because it could give away her latent ability. She started out with the solemn vow that she’d climb the ranks based on total steadfast excellence and she DID. The series shows how that breaks down. First with her dads death then Talia and then Marcus. To this point where she inside wants to scream but the internal controls are fighting every word. That’s why this is so cool. It’s the breaking point. “Who is this?” “Who am I?” Back to the Vorlon question. And she lets go. It’s pure emotion adrenaline pouring out like a waterfall and it’s all she can do to keep words together because she HAS TO. she’s the commander of the white star fleet here. She can’t stumble. She can’t crack her voice. So she says very plainly and very slowly that these aggressors are about to die. And she pushes all of that resistance straight to her face. It’s one of the most human scenes in this show that’s already full of so many

    • @annertman7762
      @annertman7762 Před 3 lety +48

      I thought she was perfect.

    • @davidbrouwers7309
      @davidbrouwers7309 Před 3 lety +72

      People who think this is bad don't get B5 period.

    • @ernestotorres247
      @ernestotorres247 Před 3 lety +36

      I agree. This was the most moving speech I have ever heard... I am death incarnate ....was amazing

    • @willowfrog33
      @willowfrog33 Před 3 lety +18

      This may be my absolute favorite scene ever.

    • @samsung3254
      @samsung3254 Před 3 lety +35

      @@willowfrog33 @Hem A'royd For myself, it's a tie with Delenn's confrontation. The same chills!

  • @DieyoungDiefast
    @DieyoungDiefast Před 3 lety +89

    Ivanova's take on Delenn's 'If you value your lives, be somewhere else' speech :)

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier Před 2 lety +2

      From the moment she saw them, Ivanova had decided she was going to kill those ships or die trying. So, a bit like Delenn's speech, but also sort of the opposite.

    • @thegrimmretails3777
      @thegrimmretails3777 Před 2 lety +2

      @@travcollier and if it wasn't for Marcus's sacrifice she would have done both.

  • @kevincaruthers5412
    @kevincaruthers5412 Před rokem +42

    "I am Death Incarnate... God sent me."
    Love this!

  • @PackerBronco
    @PackerBronco Před 4 lety +316

    Earth Alliance captain after hearing Ivanova's speech: "Good thing I wore the brown pants today ..."

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 Před 4 lety +6

      Yep. He be even more terrified if a fleet of Klingon Vessels decloaked right in front of him.

    • @Vasun05
      @Vasun05 Před 4 lety +5

      He actually said hope you brought your brown pants in an anime if I recall

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Vasun05 Okay.

    • @Vasun05
      @Vasun05 Před 4 lety +2

      @@jamieolberding7731 Yup Richard Epicar has a distinct but awesome voice

    • @thehellyousay
      @thehellyousay Před 4 lety +5

      Woulda thought it woulda been more like, "Dammit, mom made me wear clean underwear..."

  • @419Films
    @419Films Před 4 lety +240

    That speech always gives me chills.

    • @lordtutinean90
      @lordtutinean90 Před 4 lety

      Of course... I TRAINED her‼️‼️‼️🤨😂

    • @EtzEchad
      @EtzEchad Před 4 lety +2

      I would not want to hear that from someone who was about to attack. It would make me ... nervous.

    • @crazedvole
      @crazedvole Před 3 lety +1

      I never liked that speech. It went on for too long. Should have been shorter. "I am Commander Susan Ivanova. I am here to kick your ass back to Earth. I am the last thing you are going to see. God sent me." Something like that would have been cooler. Also as powerful as the white stars are, they don't have that " uh oh" to them when they fire. Imagine Ivanova giving her speech but having the fire control of the Excalibur (Crusade) or the Wave Motion gun (Space Battleship Yamato) or the SDF-1 (Macross/Robotech) She presses the button on one of those ships and bits of Earthforce/Shadow hybrids come drifting back to Earth orbit a few thousand years later. But that is just my 2 cents

    • @ianmoseley9910
      @ianmoseley9910 Před 3 lety +1

      crazedvole you version would trivialise it

    • @danielbeck2739
      @danielbeck2739 Před 3 lety

      It is among the greats that's for sure. Between that and my other personal favorite, the Babylon 5 mantra. For those who've watched the series you know what I'm referring to.

  • @dougc190
    @dougc190 Před 4 lety +429

    Who said there were never any strong women and TV shows. Ivana and Delen should be the posters for strong women in shows

    • @OOTurok
      @OOTurok Před 4 lety +32

      SJWs never watch shows or movies like this... so there's no way for them to have known.

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 Před 4 lety +36

      This show was great in the strong women department because the female characters were very strong WITHOUT nerfing the male leads.

    • @Shadowkey392
      @Shadowkey392 Před 4 lety +13

      And Captain Janeway.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE Před 4 lety +9

      Doug C unfortunately the media and parents seem to want young women to grow up and be like the Kardashians

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 Před 4 lety +29

      @Chomag That's why Alien, Terminator, B-5 (those earlier strong-woman movies) and even the latest offerings such as The Expanse are ignored. They present strong women, but they do not present the necessary ideology along with them. The truth is, science fiction fans have always, since the 1927 movie Metropolis, accepted women as strong as writers, editors, and producers have been willing to provide. Science fiction fans have never rejected strong female characters in good stories.

  • @mrspidey80
    @mrspidey80 Před 4 lety +94

    And this, my friends, is why you never fly through exploding ships, no matter how cool it might look.

    • @ThatLurieGuy
      @ThatLurieGuy Před 4 lety +29

      In this case, it was the choice of ship. White Stars aren’t top of the line. She should have gone with a Vorlon transport. Isn’t your life worth an additional thousand years of technological development? Contact your local Vorlon vessel sales rep to find out more about their complete range of organic, sentient craft. Vorlon: The ship that loves you back. (Beat that, Subaru!)

    • @FFGuy-eu7hr
      @FFGuy-eu7hr Před 3 lety +3

      Or get the energy shields the ThirdSpace Aliens had.

    • @carlousmagus5387
      @carlousmagus5387 Před 3 lety +4

      The Defiant did.....

    • @Jokie155
      @Jokie155 Před 3 lety +2

      This is why I dislike the final scene of Endgame. It's a fantastic episode through and through, then ends with an abysmally cheesy 'will he make it?' moment of Sheridan's completely unnecessary final charge. And to top it off, they draw out and milk that explosion way longer than they need to, and even include one last whisper-shout 'John!' from Delenn.

    • @Petrosman
      @Petrosman Před 3 lety +5

      @@Jokie155 unnecessary final charge? Apollo was a Deus ex machina, Sheridan and the Agamemnon should have been destroyed in the ram. Yes, the last moments where the Agamemnon almost explodes but it beautifully comes through the explosion is a bit cheesy, but it is a very cool moment and it's the end of the series's arc (JMS did not believe he would get a 5th season, so he wrapped everything up in season 4).

  • @joesycamore2899
    @joesycamore2899 Před 4 lety +387

    Ivanova is yet another reason B5 is considered the greatest science fiction show of all. No stock characters and real character arcs

    • @scurvofpcp
      @scurvofpcp Před 4 lety +19

      B5 and DS9 are the two shows of the 90's that set the standard for character depth.

    • @Mxyzptlksac
      @Mxyzptlksac Před 3 lety +8

      Each character was written with a backstory, their introduction and, just in case, their exit from the show with who would replace them.

    • @biocapsule7311
      @biocapsule7311 Před 3 lety +6

      Her entire backstory was one of my favorite... she represents the 'ones who are left behind', living to see those she loved past before her.

    • @adamcarreras-neal4697
      @adamcarreras-neal4697 Před 3 lety +5

      @@scurvofpcp DS9, Paramount ripping of JMS

    • @scurvofpcp
      @scurvofpcp Před 3 lety +4

      @@adamcarreras-neal4697 Rip off or not, they did a good job with it.

  • @trsniffy
    @trsniffy Před 3 lety +151

    "Who am I?"...literal "oh crap" chills ran down my spine when Susan said that....
    Also, when she says, "I am Death Incarnate", the tech behind her looks up with the same oh crap.

    • @snajvar84
      @snajvar84 Před 2 lety +10

      "Who am I?" Me as a kid goosebumps ran down my body and in my head "Ooo they done messed up!" K had the biggest crush on her when I was a kid. 😆

    • @josefhollenbauer1043
      @josefhollenbauer1043 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yes ... She's. Really. PISSED!

    • @howardbeatman2820
      @howardbeatman2820 Před 2 měsíci +2

      And when she says, "God sent me.", the tech looks at her again with his mouth open in shock.

    • @georgejcox9241
      @georgejcox9241 Před měsícem

      To anyone who not A bad guy "RUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!" If you are A bad guy bye bye

  • @alienlife7754
    @alienlife7754 Před 2 lety +43

    One thing I liked about B5 was that Earth wasn’t a major player in the galaxy like in Star Trek. Earth is just another planet with many problems.

    • @shitbeausaysofficial
      @shitbeausaysofficial Před 4 měsíci

      It is still a major power though in the show?

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 Před 3 měsíci

      I think they had to prove themselves to other races, like in the Dilgar war and Operation Sudden Death led by General Franklin to put down a rebellion in the Sh'lassen Triumvirate.

  • @joehealy6376
    @joehealy6376 Před rokem +38

    This is good. My favorite bad ass was Vir and the wave. When your sitting in the command chair of a White Star that can back up a whole lot. Vir waving to Morden, knowing the power he wields and doing this sheer moral character, no army, no ship, nothing at all. That is strength and ultimate bad ass. The fact he is the only one who got what he wanted when asked by Morden is just so amazing.

    • @davesand8575
      @davesand8575 Před rokem +5

      Wow, never realized that until just now. That Vir was the only one who got what he wanted. And he didn't even have to compromise his moral center to achieve it. There's an application in real life, hopefully.

    • @Scott-qq9jd
      @Scott-qq9jd Před rokem +1

      I disagree. Everyone got what they wanted from Morden, and discovered it wasn't all they'd hoped. The Centauri were restored to glory like Londo wanted. The Narn saw the Centauri suffer, as G'kar wanted. And Vir got to see Morden's severed head. But all discovered that getting your wish often comes with terrible suffering. Londo saw the Centauri become butchers enthralled to the Shadows and Drakh. G'kar saw his people suffer another genocide. And Vir watched as Londo was forced to become a puppet of the Drakh. They all got their wishes.

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 Před 3 lety +16

    That spinning wheel of destruction formation that the Whitestars did was so badass!!!

    • @Meower68
      @Meower68 Před 3 lety +5

      Find the clip where Delenn and Lennier first encounter the Drakh. "Mr Lennier, are you familiar with the Warrior Caste tactic of skin dancing?" Pretty bad a** White Star tactics, as well. "End. This."

    • @lovipoekimo176
      @lovipoekimo176 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Meower68 loved that one too, but this was my favorite Whitestar maneuver clip.

  • @FullmetalCowboy
    @FullmetalCowboy Před 4 lety +223

    When I first saw this, I was like "Oooooooooooh shit!". I had a dumb wide open smile and when she fired, I went "Yeah!!!". This is hands down my favorite Ivanova scene. How do you top "Ivanova is God"? Answer : "I am Death Incarnate". Oh Great Maker, what a badass 😃

    • @alwoodel8900
      @alwoodel8900 Před 4 lety +25

      Only Delenn...." If you value your lives be somewhere else".

    • @leslieshafer6343
      @leslieshafer6343 Před 4 lety +25

      @@alwoodel8900 The speeches are scary in different ways. Susan's is full of righteous fury & Delenn's is so matter of fact it's chilling.

    • @Hyperion5182
      @Hyperion5182 Před 4 lety +10

      @DOUG HEINS Boom Tomorrow.

    • @RobertWilke
      @RobertWilke Před 4 lety +12

      @@Hyperion5182 Always BOOM Tomorrow

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall Před 2 lety

      @@leslieshafer6343 absolutely. Delenn's was just a cold, I'm going to kill you especially when she says "only one earth commander has ever survived battle with the Minbari fleet. He is behind me, you are in front of me..." At the point in the episode it was just so badass.. Just like Susan's in the above clip

  • @SeedlingNL
    @SeedlingNL Před 3 lety +9

    Babylon 5 was the last of the great scifi tv shows. There would be no other.
    The year is 2021. May Ivanova have mercy on us all.

  • @1977Yakko
    @1977Yakko Před 4 lety +86

    When she says she's death incarnate, I believe her.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 Před 3 lety +3

      "God sent me." Still gives me chills.

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 Před rokem +2

      Wise choice. One episode she was told to break out heavy weapons and instead of going to an armory, she reached under her desk and pulled out TWO Heavy Particle rifles!!

    • @robertbusek30
      @robertbusek30 Před měsícem +1

      Then again, she is also “the expanding Russian frontier.”
      (With very nice borders…)

  • @maskedriderweaver4122
    @maskedriderweaver4122 Před 4 lety +70

    Ivanova's mere presence could win a battle.

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin Před 3 lety +1

      Nah, you're thinking Delenn. Ivanova is pretty close, though.

    • @Ork20111
      @Ork20111 Před 2 lety +1

      That is what differs a good commander from a great one.

  • @greanstreak04
    @greanstreak04 Před 4 lety +61

    Night will fall and drown the sun
    When Ivanova goes to war
    Friendship dies and true love lies
    Night will fall and the dark will rise
    When Ivanova goes to war
    Demons run, but count the cost
    The battle's won, but the Shadows lost
    When Ivanova goes to war...

    • @seanrobert9661
      @seanrobert9661 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes.....

    • @greanstreak04
      @greanstreak04 Před 2 lety

      @@seanrobert9661 did you get the reference???

    • @seanrobert9661
      @seanrobert9661 Před 2 lety +3

      Wibly wobly , Sinclair was lucky he was her CO for screwing with her at breakfast , but then Markus went and got her a REAL breakfast wanted more and gave all.

    • @greanstreak04
      @greanstreak04 Před 2 lety +2

      @@seanrobert9661 timey wimey...

    • @cjhooversd
      @cjhooversd Před 2 lety +8

      "Today is not the day to find out why I have so many rules."

  • @RichardX1
    @RichardX1 Před 2 lety +19

    I do love it when sci-fi creators remember that combat in space isn't bound to the same rules of maneuvering that exist in a gravity well with atmosphere.

    • @Robert-hz9bj
      @Robert-hz9bj Před 2 lety +3

      They go back and forth on how ''realistic'' the portrayal of space combat is. There's one episode where Delenn and Sheridan are commanding a fleet against the Shadows and Delenn declares ''they're trying to outflank us!'' And it's like, WTF are you talking about woman? You're in space There are no ''flanks.'' Pretty much every fucking direction is a ''flank''

    • @RichardX1
      @RichardX1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Robert-hz9bj well, with sufficient ships one could three-dimensionally encircle (ensphere?) one's opponent...

    • @JonLondrezos
      @JonLondrezos Před 2 lety

      If only the same creators realized that sound is not audible in space then this would have been as realistic as Galactica.

    • @seawolf4846
      @seawolf4846 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Robert-hz9bj We sort of, the threat with getting outflanked in this situation is actually having the enemy able to achieve a crossfire. Which means that evasive maneuvers would be less effective by a significant margin.

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Robert-hz9bja 'flank' is any direction that leaves you vulnerable to attack. It's easier to flank in space, not harder

  • @filippofittipaldi8050
    @filippofittipaldi8050 Před 4 lety +35

    Susan was one of my favorite characters in B5. Great speech.

  • @xadam2dudex
    @xadam2dudex Před 3 lety +16

    Susan got such an epic line in the episode and the entire B5 series everyone remembers

  • @DrWho453
    @DrWho453 Před 2 lety +31

    I loved Ivanova. This was one of my two favorite quotes from her. The other is the one where she tells the fighter pilot, who pulled a stunt that almost killed him and some others, that she was god and that they WILL obey her. Man she was a great character and so was Marcus. I thought Marcus was so funny and I really hated when they killed him. I was always like how could they do that to him. I just hope in the new remake they are able to find characters that work well like Marcus and Ivanova, G'Kar and Mallari, Dellen and Sheridan otherwise I don't see the show lasting very long. Now that's not to say they won't have some bad / boring episodes that they probably could have done without. Even the original had a few episodes that they could have done without but you get through those and the next episode kicks everything back up a notch again.
    The sad thing about having all these episodes out now, is that the people watching today will never experience what we first timers got to experience. We know there was a longer story than what we were seeing each week and we had to wait for another week before we could get more answers and then would come the mid-season break and you had to wait a couple of months to get more information. You wanted to know more about the Shadows and the coming war and happened with B4. It was really quite the experience. Now you can just binge these things plus watch the movies out of sequence from how we saw them and just not get the same effect that we got having to watch and wait.

  • @leemachado5286
    @leemachado5286 Před 4 lety +47

    Ivanova is one of my all time favorite scifi heroines! Such a badass in this even though the death incarnate speech was a bit over the top, still gives me chills!

  • @DeltaPi314
    @DeltaPi314 Před 3 lety +11

    "TV shows have a lack of strong women"
    No.
    You've been watching the wrong shows. But this is the thing, good shows and media aren't about characters, it is about how they interact with other characters and the world they live in (this is what B5 got spot on).
    And this is what most modern writers get wrong, they focus too much on writing a stereotypical strong characters (of whatever shape or form) and forget that there is an entire world for these characters to live in. The world building is thrown out of the window just to put a tick on a criteria list of what is in at the moment.
    And no... world building isn't just throwing obstacles and challenges for the character to overcome so they'd be considered inspiring and strong. It's about making the characters relatable even if you are writing about a Jewish Space Captain Woman leading a fleet of bioships against her own kin... wait...

  • @sharkdentures3247
    @sharkdentures3247 Před 3 lety +33

    Every time I hear that speech I think,
    Damn . . . this is one of the ONLY times a Vorlon asking the question would simply say "Yes." or "Correct.", because someone FINALLY answered the question right.
    "Who are you?"

    • @Jerkface-wl5nd
      @Jerkface-wl5nd Před 2 lety +7

      A Vorlon would back the hell up and apologize at that point...

    • @markmullins8622
      @markmullins8622 Před 2 lety

      Omfg and you people have the gall to mock star treks speeches?? Lmao so over the top its like a parody of a sci fi show

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael Před 2 lety +1

      @@markmullins8622 Uhh... what? When did anyone mention Star Trek?

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall Před 2 lety

      The inquisitor would have removed the cuffs and left on his own...

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 Před 2 lety

      @@markmullins8622 Funny, I am both a B5 and Star Trek Fan. And I think you are full of BS.
      In fact, Spock for Balance of Terror called: He says you are so full of it, if they could funnel that outside they would not need to wait for a random comet halo to hunt down that that Romulan Stealth Ship!

  • @roepi
    @roepi Před 3 lety +12

    What I liked the most about this is how it's Ivanova that answers the Vorlon question that well where it was Vir who had the best answer to the Shadow question. Both characters are respective second in command on both sides of that conflict and both are loyal to a fault to their direct superior. And in both cases their answers were a big huge fuck you to the one who asked the question and it didn't end well for the one asking the question in both cases. Ivanova told exactly who whe was with zero regrets knowing full well it would kill her (not counting Marcus intervening) and vir was the only one who got exactly what he wanted with zero regrets.

  • @UnknownUzer
    @UnknownUzer Před 4 lety +75

    If there were a list of the top 100 badass lines in a sci-fi series , this would rank pretty high on that list.

    • @davidbrouwers7309
      @davidbrouwers7309 Před 4 lety +13

      UnknownUzer that and Delenn's one human ever survived speech in S3 when EarthForce ships attacked B5 (true fans know exactly which speech I refer to)

    • @UnknownUzer
      @UnknownUzer Před 4 lety +9

      @@davidbrouwers7309 I LOVE how she ended that speech "If you value your lives, be somewhere else"

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 Před 3 lety +4

      @@davidbrouwers7309 I love how she's racing to her man's rescue, and without making Sheriden look like a puss.

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall Před 2 lety +3

      @@ninjabearpress2574 That was one of the great things about this series. The women were strong because they actually were strong and not because the men were neutered and weak like you see in so many movies/shows today. In B5 the competed with men at their levels. Won some, lost some but were always strong and smart

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 Před 2 lety +1

      @@themandownthehall chalk that up to excellent writing and casting.

  • @Philip02K
    @Philip02K Před 4 lety +17

    I loved her command and presence.

  • @bjrneirikstrkersen1021
    @bjrneirikstrkersen1021 Před 2 lety +18

    Vorlons: "Who are you?"
    Shadows: "What do you want?"
    Ivanova: "I am DEATH incarnate and I want to kill you!"
    Vorlons/Shadows: "Wow, that...actually checks out. Huh. Eh, we just remembered we're late for a tea party at Sigma 957, toodeloooo!"

  • @DamienSteiner-om4of
    @DamienSteiner-om4of Před 8 měsíci +1

    Two of my favourite speeches are this laying down of reality & Drummer as captain of the Behemoth

  • @Jeng4280
    @Jeng4280 Před 2 lety +4

    Such a badass scene. This is what made Babylon 5 such a great series for me; this and the moment where Delenn and her ship defended B5.

  • @cennon
    @cennon Před 4 lety +30

    Funny how the spacebattles on this show from the 90's is better than the spacebattles of most sci fi shows today.

    • @tomcline5631
      @tomcline5631 Před 3 lety

      Oh yeah,I agree!!! It's like they had a time machine or something!

    • @cennon
      @cennon Před 3 lety

      @@tomcline5631 example. I love Star Trek Discovery and Battlestar Galactica but the spacebattles are no where near as exciting as B5 and that show is over 25 years old.

    • @tomcline5631
      @tomcline5631 Před 3 lety

      @@cennon I liked Battlestar Galactica,but yeah,the spaceship scenes were pretty low rent! As for Discovery,I'm a Star Trek purist! Discovery has nothing to do with the Proper Star Trek cannon. Having said that,the battle scenes were ok but not what you'd expect from a 21st century show!
      Babylon 5 was pretty damned amazing. The only thing I ever saw that was the least bit wonky was when they were looking at Kosh's ship. Even then,you could play it off as the whole Vorlan race being half assed wonky to begin with!
      Ive watched the first season of Discovery,a lot of really cool characters,but I've seen and Studied All the original series and movies,and All the next generation series and movies,and probably read 99% of the Universal studios approved books,there's just not room in my head for the altered history stuff like Enterprise NX01 crap ,Discovery,and even the new movies( even though we Know it's an alternate timeline).
      If you had never seen Star Trek, Discovery would be pretty good,but I just can't unsee,and unlearn 40 years of personal experience.
      In Valen's name...

  • @Fizz-Pop
    @Fizz-Pop Před 3 lety +6

    Ah my beautiful 90's tv. I miss you.

  • @NardoVogt
    @NardoVogt Před 3 lety +7

    Ivanova: I am Death Incarnate
    Kira Nery: If you want a war, I'll give you one.
    Avasarala: Tell them I will rain Hellfire on them.
    Give the drama to the men in SciFy.
    Badassary is the realm of women in the future.

  • @fjtalleyauthor2242
    @fjtalleyauthor2242 Před 4 lety +15

    One of my favorite sci-fi characters ever. Elements of a major character in my novels was based on Susan Ivanova.

  • @testicularoxide5055
    @testicularoxide5055 Před 3 lety +13

    Delenn has passed beyond the rim... 😔

    • @brentkalmbacher9092
      @brentkalmbacher9092 Před rokem +2

      We will all one day pass beyound the rim and share the stories we gathered with those who went before

    • @testicularoxide5055
      @testicularoxide5055 Před rokem

      @@brentkalmbacher9092 👍💜👍

  • @martinthomas1293
    @martinthomas1293 Před 3 lety +6

    Babylon 5 always had a way with giving some of the best lines in sci-fi history this one is on the top five

  • @rifelaw
    @rifelaw Před rokem +1

    I think I saw Doc Holliday in the background going, "Oh, make no mistake, it's not revenge she's after. It's a reckoning."

  • @larskolme9740
    @larskolme9740 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The look on Susan Ivanova's/Claudia Christian's face, when she threatens someone, is quite priceless. Not to mention scary, as was Mira Furlan/Delenn.

  • @susandaniels9733
    @susandaniels9733 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You closed out on the most tear jerking and best part.

  • @112steinway
    @112steinway Před 3 lety +19

    "Oh Valen help me, we're all doomed!"
    "Dude, she's on our side...remember?"
    "Oh thank Valen, we're saved!"

    • @DLordSadow
      @DLordSadow Před 3 lety +3

      And not only did she know Valen, he knew better then to ever cross her!

    • @nemo99nemo83
      @nemo99nemo83 Před 3 lety

      Actually....they were doomed anyway. I would consider that battle a draw with both fleets completely anihilated.

    • @DLordSadow
      @DLordSadow Před 3 lety +4

      @@nemo99nemo83 Actually, a few White Stars survived. The White Stars also succeeded in their mission objective in eliminating the threat to the rebel Earthforce ships. The Shadow Omegas failed in that their target was the rebel Earthforce ships, not the White Stars.

  • @michaelmorton5698
    @michaelmorton5698 Před 3 lety +13

    This would have been a good time for the Earth Alliance ships to run. Some opponents just never take the hint.

    • @Kodalith
      @Kodalith Před 3 lety +3

      A very wise Centauri once said. "Arrogant men never do."

  • @michalbukvai7548
    @michalbukvai7548 Před 4 lety +17

    She is hard as rock, but still - the whole fleet of whitestars is what gives me chills.

    • @leighsaunderson9203
      @leighsaunderson9203 Před 3 lety +2

      Remember the first Whitestar and we were "WOW" look at that... then you get that "it was never meant to be one of kind" moment....I still remember watching that fleet reveal for the first time during the original broadcasts in the UK !

    • @RoTenken
      @RoTenken Před 2 lety

      My favorite Sci-Fi ship to this day.

  • @msbae
    @msbae Před 4 lety +32

    I miss this show.

  • @mikef-gi2dg
    @mikef-gi2dg Před 6 měsíci +1

    When someone tells you they are DEATH INCARNATE, like she did, you best believe their finger is flexed on the trigger, you only have a few seconds left, before a posterior BEAT DOWN. A kick A scene for sure.

  • @x_lonewolf_x
    @x_lonewolf_x Před 3 lety +4

    2nd best scene ever !!!!
    the first being mimbari ambassador Delenn's protection of Babylon 5 speech
    : ]

  • @meatpuppet5036
    @meatpuppet5036 Před 2 lety +14

    This is what quality strong female characters are, Ivanova gives a badass speech, then works for her victory.
    Modern writers would either have the opponents run away or get easily curbstomped.

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall Před 2 lety +3

      Exactly. Or the men would be so weak as to be laughable. JMS knew how to write good characters and situations. That's for sure. I'm glad he's back to do the new series

  • @ashe4711
    @ashe4711 Před 4 lety +12

    It saddens me not long after this Marcus is gone and the crew is dispersed.

  • @jimyoung9262
    @jimyoung9262 Před 2 lety +7

    Cheesy as this show could be, it was some of the best sci Fi ever written

  • @JFinSD2
    @JFinSD2 Před 3 lety +3

    Never a wise move to piss off Ivanova. I love her "death incarnate" speech.

  • @alfstewart22
    @alfstewart22 Před 2 lety +37

    3:42 "If we it let get away they'll bring back reinforcements"
    Always loved this line, it confirms to the viewer than Ivanova recgonises that these Earthgov\Shadow hybrids are alive.

    • @TheEVEInspiration
      @TheEVEInspiration Před 2 lety +3

      She fights like a Minbari would, all in no matter the odds!

    • @mattheww5873
      @mattheww5873 Před rokem +4

      There's also the sense the these things are Abominations, like Frankenstein's monster, and they need to be destroyed, no matter what the cost. B5 always operating on multiple levels of awesome.

  • @TheGrayfrog100
    @TheGrayfrog100 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Delen said "Be somewhere else" That was a Threat. Ivonava is just Terrifying!

  • @stevengreen9536
    @stevengreen9536 Před 4 lety +6

    Man I miss this show.

  • @stevedixon921
    @stevedixon921 Před 3 lety +9

    B5 was a great series. One of my top ten for sure. One story told over five seasons.

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 Před 8 měsíci

      JMS wrote this as a novel, a book for television, with a distinct beginning, middle and end, to my knowledge the first and only time this has been done. One of my top 5 favourite stories

  • @Jay-ip7sl
    @Jay-ip7sl Před 4 lety +8

    The speech gave me chills

  • @erikgorn
    @erikgorn Před rokem

    omg so good. Been rewatching the series with a good friend. Such an epic moment!!!

  • @KyleRuggles
    @KyleRuggles Před 3 měsíci

    Oh man! I'm watching this over again from first watching it on air originally, and that quote from Susan, I am death Incarnate... Oh that hit HARD! And I must admit, season 3 and 4 really turned it up a notch in the VFX! This battle is right up there with some of the ones from The Expanse.
    I LOVE THIS SHOW! Watching this ep right now, oh man.

  • @GUMMRUCHK
    @GUMMRUCHK Před 3 lety +13

    Part of me wants this show remade but the other part knows they'd just fuck it up. lol

  • @joehealy6376
    @joehealy6376 Před rokem +2

    No one is as the appear. This was the greatness of the show. The mystical Minbari, The warrior angry lizard Narn, The comedic Centari, The nearly angelic ignamic Vorlon, and most of noble humans to show it is done. This was the orginal plot, and nearly every episode after chips away at that. Character matters, faith endures.

  • @orochigo31
    @orochigo31 Před 2 lety +2

    Called him sweetheart, told him what was to happen and let it be known whom it was that sent her. Talk of the wrong place at the wrong time buddy. One of the absolute best lines in Babylon 5. They didn't show it in the clip here but the way everybody looked when she said it, absolutely fantastic work. Five seasons in a couple of movies wasn't enough.

  • @OriginalMergatroid
    @OriginalMergatroid Před 3 lety +7

    I wish they had of shown the face of the Earth Force commander after Ivanova's speech

    • @DLordSadow
      @DLordSadow Před 3 lety +1

      I’m sure the director did too. However, the show’s budget was basically pocket change. 😞

  • @raquelmccormick2312
    @raquelmccormick2312 Před 4 lety +21

    oh, how I use to love the white Starfleet ships..when they first introduced them I was like tough little ship LOOOOOOOOVE it!

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 Před 4 lety +3

      Little? it's the size of the Nebula or Akira class in Star Trek only the Galaxy and Sovereign class are larger in the Federation before the 2009 reboot made all the ships a lot bigger.

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass Před 4 lety +2

      I don't think they named any of the White Stars. But if they had, I'm sure one of them would have been named "Defiant".

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael Před 2 lety

      @@Ushio01 Two things: The Akira and Nebula classes were not particularly large ships. Also, compared to the ships in B5, which are actually relevant to this discussion, the White Stars are tiny.

  • @paulsak59
    @paulsak59 Před 4 lety +3

    Always a pleasure to watch this episode.

  • @VoodooV1
    @VoodooV1 Před 4 lety +25

    Captain Jake Thompson dislikes this video.

  • @dustygrant3043
    @dustygrant3043 Před 3 lety +2

    This speach goes to prove that they had some very talented writers and creative workers on an excellent show and the fact that it STILL holds up to this day attests too that!!!! Along with the very talented actress on the other side of the camera TOO!!!!!! I'm really not good with names and it's been awhile since i saw the most AWESOME show ever made!!!!!!

    • @mstephens44
      @mstephens44 Před 2 lety

      Umm. There was only one writer. His initials are JMS.

  • @lightbox617
    @lightbox617 Před 3 lety +2

    I could rewatch this for hours

  • @marcushoward6560
    @marcushoward6560 Před 3 lety +9

    This will always be one of the greatest scenes from the entire series!

  • @kc9602
    @kc9602 Před 6 dny

    Marcus was one of VERY few people who could handle Ivanova, without getting his neck broken as a result.

  • @WardNightstone
    @WardNightstone Před 3 lety +5

    the inertia dampeners on whitestars must have been INSANELY powerful to not turn the crews into paste turning like that

    • @aikrichter5403
      @aikrichter5403 Před 3 lety

      Vorlon tech enhanced,for sure.

    • @brianwhedon8442
      @brianwhedon8442 Před 3 lety +1

      WhiteStars are almost all Minbari tech except for Vorlon bio-armor and the Vorlon altered Neutron Beam. That's why the main weapon at full power takes almost all of the main power except for life support. Even the Vorlons didn't want the Younger Races to have anything that could potentially threaten them if the balance of power shifted

  • @babylon5reimaginedseries
    @babylon5reimaginedseries Před 2 lety +3

    Can't wait for the new series to begin!

  • @lonewanderer7926
    @lonewanderer7926 Před 3 měsíci

    The best part of Babylon 5 space battles is how they are realistic in the sense that they use inertia to their advantage in space as there is little to no gravity to slow them down. So, they can speed up in a direction, keep going, spin around and shoot as they drift away and not slow down.
    Brilliant show.

  • @fullerdave1
    @fullerdave1 Před rokem

    One of the best line in the entire series and that's saying something for sure!

  • @messageprocyber_techsonins5138

    She was the best sci fi second in command in any sci fi series

  • @ruprecht8520
    @ruprecht8520 Před 8 měsíci

    When I saw this originally it sent chills down my spine. Now, isolated to just a clip without the build-up of story, it doesn't work as well. Anyone watching this should watch the show. Its worth every minute.

  • @dirdib69
    @dirdib69 Před 4 lety +13

    "God sent me."

  • @robinj.9329
    @robinj.9329 Před 3 lety +4

    "God sent me!"
    My favorite line.

  • @josephtiseo3303
    @josephtiseo3303 Před rokem +1

    Just think how there were no strong female characters before Captain Marvel. One of the best lines and scenes Ive ever seen.

  • @Andy13april64
    @Andy13april64 Před rokem

    When I hear that speech, I get goosebumps. oooh.

  • @Voodoomaria
    @Voodoomaria Před 3 lety +2

    See the clip entitled "If you value your lives" as well.
    The Power women of today's TV are pale shadows of Ivanova, and Delenn.
    THAT was writing.

  • @ladycatherinedebourgh2491

    It is with supreme hope that Babylon 5 gets a HD remaster one of these days.

    • @Administrator_O-5
      @Administrator_O-5 Před 2 lety

      It's supposedly getting the 4K treatment, but it's also getting a reboot in 2022.

  • @robertjackson3552
    @robertjackson3552 Před rokem +1

    "Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. Ivanova is God."

  • @TheMelbournelad
    @TheMelbournelad Před 3 lety +12

    From Russia with love

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow Před 3 měsíci

    I loved it it gave me chills

  • @spleefthedude7747
    @spleefthedude7747 Před 4 lety +38

    In my opinion these are still the best space battle scenes ever. Far superior to Star Trek. And much more realistic as to what it would be like. Michael Straczynski is a genius

    • @johnny5wd567
      @johnny5wd567 Před 4 lety +8

      I like both. Both franchises have their moments. Wrath of Khan has some "realistic" space battle too. Although since no one has been engaged in actual, real life realistic space battles, who knows what it woul be like? In Star Trek, while science fiction, the science part does get some emphasis and explanation, it's not entirely without any scientific theories whatsoever, unlike for example Star Wars (which I consider fantasy not scifi, but yeah, it's usually closely aligned with one another precisely because of things like space battles etc.). Anyway, to each their own. This scene did make me want to watch Babylon 5 again. It's been ages...

    • @FFGuy-eu7hr
      @FFGuy-eu7hr Před 3 lety +9

      I think B5 is more realistic to what humanity will look like when we travel into space on a larger scale, we will probably lack inventions like energy shields and food replicators.

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 Před 3 lety +6

      @@FFGuy-eu7hr Don't forget artificial gravity. Earth ships have to provide it by rotation, just like the Babylon 5 station does. The Star Fury pilots are strapped onto it to prevent them from flying around.

    • @anonymousrex5207
      @anonymousrex5207 Před 3 lety +4

      @@FFGuy-eu7hr What I always thought was interesting is that Star Trek (original series), Babylon 5 and The Expanse all take place around roughly the same year, yet each series has a completely different take on how humanity's evolution into the space era has gone. Its really interesting to see each series' take on the future. I have to agree that B5 still has the best space battles, characters and story of any sci-fi series to date. Seeing those whitestars fly in formation or maneuver during combat is just such a beautiful thing to watch

    • @chrisdewfall7920
      @chrisdewfall7920 Před 3 lety +5

      @@anonymousrex5207 for me b5 is still mone of my favourite series but teh expanse a very very very close second. personally i find it one of the few shows that is a worthy successor to babylon 5

  • @MichaelMitchum-ie8yr
    @MichaelMitchum-ie8yr Před 3 měsíci

    Loved this shows

  • @deegee6863
    @deegee6863 Před 4 lety +18

    First time I saw those destroyers with all that Shadow skin on them I had such a nerdgasm LOL

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass Před 4 lety +6

      I gasped in horror. There was only one reason to incorporate that kind of tech into those ships, and that is conquest. Clark would have eventually tried to run roughshod over the entire galaxy.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Robert_Douglass Yeah, my reaction was "eff me".

  • @xadam2dudex
    @xadam2dudex Před 2 lety

    That line is so classic it'll live on forever .. A great meme for sure

  • @acadrengberg
    @acadrengberg Před 3 lety +2

    "... and give me firing control." (gulp)

  • @Jadguy24
    @Jadguy24 Před 3 lety +7

    The other white stars: ok so looks like they have shadow tech. We probably want to keep our distance:
    Ivanova: SUUUUUSAN IVANOVA!!! (In the style of Leeroy Jenkins)
    Other white stars: Oh Velen, save her

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 Před 2 lety

      It has a certain...
      Minsk: "GO FOR THE EYES BOO!, THE EEYYESSSS!!!"
      ... feel to it.

  • @annstillwell730
    @annstillwell730 Před 2 lety +1

    I miss this show :(

  • @mikeb.5039
    @mikeb.5039 Před 4 lety +5

    Delen's fear speech just as equal

    • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
      @MichaelClark-uw7ex Před 4 lety +3

      If you value your lives, be somewhere else.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MichaelClark-uw7ex And run they did...gawd I miss quality entertainment like this.

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow Před 3 měsíci

    She was tough professional tactical and i loved her

  • @mho...
    @mho... Před 7 měsíci

    this one is glorious!
    my other favorite scene with her is the one with the floating head old-ones, where they just answer "zooorg" & she goes "zorg? zorg what? zorg yes?zorg no?what?"🤣

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 Před 2 lety +2

    One of the greatest Sci Fi shows ever.

  • @billsmith981
    @billsmith981 Před 4 lety +7

    It took a couple of seasons for them to get it right....and they really did.

  • @MikeTheGamer77
    @MikeTheGamer77 Před 3 lety

    This was a fantastic show.

  • @ericb4127
    @ericb4127 Před 6 měsíci

    Watching Babylon 5 now is like seeing old friends.