Joe Rogan CONVINCES Neil To Try Magic Mushrooms
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Joe Rogan and Neil deGrasse Tyson don't see eye to eye on this issue, but Neils says after he writes all the books he wants to write, he might be willing to try them.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist, director of the Hayden Planetarium ar the American Museum of Natural Histroy, and host of "StarTalk Radio." His newest book, "Starry Messenger Cosmic Perspectives on Civilization," is available now.
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Hell yea. He needs them
He NEEDS to tbh.
Yes, Liberty Caps (Psilocybe Semilanceata).
in the past i've done Acid
I took 9 hits of acid and saw a kangaroo in a tree 🤣
also don't do acid and go to the County Fair either I swear the whole trip I saw cop lights in my peripherals. and everything rusty had different colors than rust. 😅
never done shrooms but i wouldn't mind trying them. I'd have to make friends first... that way they can make sure i don't fuck myself up.
He only needs 1 mushroom. Any more & he'll over-analyze.
I’d pay to watch Neil explain his experience after taking mushrooms
Nah. To watch him as he trips and ask him about his perspective on certain subjects
I second that 👏🏼
@@davidybarra7774 id like to see both. The during, and the after.
@@davidybarra7774 influencing his trip that way will just make the experience less meaningfull for him, and probably produce less interesting results
I’d love to hear him talk about his 5 gram in the dark experience.
I can not reccomend shrooms enough to Neil. If anybody needs to lose their ego and look at themselves from a different perspective it's him.
If he's not ready for that type of experience he will not accept it, and may in fact strengthen his ego in compensation.
This man. Neils soo stuck on himself i feel sorry for him
“If anybody” he’s not that terrible geez get Putin some mushrooms if anybody
@@alexgonzo5508 ohh yeah this is the guy everyones having a nice trip hes just freaking tf out in the corner
@@noelybro we get it. You're a Democrat and a Redditor. My comment wasnt even political but your brain couldn't help but to regurgitate the talking points from your hive mind.
If he did mushrooms he would become the biggest mushroom advocate on the planet.
The next Terence..!
Definitely would
lmao
In my opinion.....he is like a preacher that is scared to be in the presence of god
😂😂😂😂
When your whole life is based on this gatekeeping "reality"
Using drugs to come up with creative thoughts.
It's pretty much cheating for untalented ppl. Like guys using steroids.
@@UnrealSickness There's no cheating, if no rule says it's forbidden
Joe brings neil to test his patience
They test each others patience
@@mattk8810 but Neil test everyone's patience
@@trip_with_zhora sent this to the feds, but won’t matter because this is a blatant scam only children who haven’t been hurt before playing RuneScape would fall for
😂
The whole pod was hard to watch. If Neil doesnt have a mild form of autism then he is a first class @$$hole. He is extremely disrespectful to everyone he converses with.
I feel like Neil is the kind of guy who would get stoned and watch a movie with his buddies and just talk through the whole thing
"Well, actually..."
What's the other point of meeting then? Lmao
Pointing out all the inaccuracies....yeah I can picture it now.
I do this
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"look at how people misinterpret reality when theyre not on anything"
yeah exactly
That's shit hit so hard. He could've walked off the show after that statement
What is reality?
While psychedelics cause hallucinations, it's very common that the users experience a loss of their preconceived notions on reality. This is due to the "default mode network" in the brain turning off which has been scientifically proven to happen when under the influence of psychedelics. When this part of the brain turns off, the user experiences a "flow state" or a state of pure "being".
In other words, they are more connected to the present moment than ever before. That voice we hear in our heads that we call our "self" suddenly ceases. I would argue that psychedelics, under the right dose, may actually help individuals experience objective reality more-so than any other substances like alcohol or cocaine.
Genius
Psychedelics will make you feel like you truly are an animal, make you feel what you truly are. All previous notions of what you are fade.
Some people identify with their political ideas, religion, weird character traits that they've seen on tik tok, TV etc. These things largely influence our lives and how we percieve ourselves without even knowing it: It resides in our subconciouss. This is our bias, and this bias, I believe, is removed when you use psychedelics.
I would definitely call that being more objective to reality.
Love that Joe dug his heels in a little bit and didn’t let Neil shrug off the topic completely
Using drugs to come up with creative thoughts.
It's pretty much cheating for untalented ppl. Like guys using steroids.
i would be incredibly curious to hear Neil's commentary after using some shrooms
Why?
Why would that even matter?
@@jetpark3743 It's almost like someone who is notoriously reductionist and arrogant might have interesting thoughts after ingesting a chemical that tends to make you feel humbler, and make you engage in abstraction at more complex levels than we're generally capable of...
@@immanuelcunt7296 exactly
it would be extremely thought provoking, would be super fun
When I did 5g of mushrooms, I literally could not remember something as simple as my name. Everything I identified with was suddenly gone and I was simply one with everything, extremely present. I realized that I needed to eat better, I needed to exercise, and generally take care of myself. I never understood how important those things were before mushrooms. The effect that has on you cannot be underestimated. It's been 2 years since I did that and I still use it as a grounding experience.
If you think they're pointless then your missing the point
@@Honeythief212 Every person has the though "Oh I should start working out" but VERY few people do. This person did mushrooms and it was "I should" it was "I NEED" he realized his body was his sacred temple and that he needed to take care of it so I'm sure he has a very healthy mindset of what he wants from his body and his life now.
@@Honeythief212 ofc he knew what he had to do, when you’re down bad everything like that seems irrelevant. hallucinations, specifically mushrooms, do a great job of forcing not just your mind but your spirit to come to terms with what it needs to do.
The ancients like plato or tibetan buddhists confirm all this.
We are part of the great universal consciousness yet we have alienated ourselves from our true self and live under the disguise of the ego which we believe to be us.
@@Honeythief212 what kind of dose would 16 grams be? Lol
Psychedelics like psilocybin mushrooms have shown a lot of promise in helping people with mental health issues.
Absolutely! It's incredible to see how psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics have the potential to make a positive impact on mental health. They've shown promising results in treating depression and anxiety. It's exciting to think about the possibilities they hold for helping people.
Any good dealer? I seriously want to try out.,
I can say dr.melvinshrooms is the man for you.
dr.melvinshrooms has pure psychedelics products-:
On instgram?
If Neil does Shrooms 😂 he doesn’t realize it will probably turn him into one of our favorite people 😂
Neil for president USA!!
No for real we need him to omg
Using drugs to come up with creative thoughts.
It's pretty much cheating for untalented ppl. Like guys using steroids.
It’s like telling someone how having children might change them. You can’t understand something like that without experience. Or explaining what it’s like to be poor or rich to someone who’s never experienced both.
Don't try and be cool 😎 even if you are not
People who say that are dumb. Many parents now kill their kids. Or abandon them. Either way, me raising 3 bastards is much more of a experience than my father kicking my pregnant mother onto the streets. You’ll never understand raising kids out of pure love. Just selfishness
@@alphaturtle3806 he never said having kids will make you a better parent but that having kids will change you
Totally agree becoming a parent definatly changes you as does taking mushroom
If you believe in the material nature of the brain, then any thought configuration, any emotion, any worldview can be achieved by the right combinations of chemical and electrical stimulation.
Imagine that there's a drug that reconfigures you to believe you've had the greatest revelation of your life, and preach the use of that drug to everyone around you. A sort of virus-drug. How could you possibly differentiate between that and a drug that actually gives you the greatest revelation of your life?
The answer is, you cannot. Until you understand the mechanism by which the change occurs, all your descriptions of personal experiences are useless.
I love the analogy Joe gave at the end, about living your whole life under a tunnel, questioning what the whole deal about sunlight is when you already have light bulbs. Genius
Nah, the physiological benefits fo sunlight are well-documented, and your body is supposed to receive certain amounts of it, which you aren't getting in a tunnel. Deliberately overdosing yourself with DMT is not that. I'm sure it's profound because it shows you the separation between your perceiving apparatus and reality, but messing with your brain chemistry can have VERY negative effects even under professional supervision and shouldn't be taken lightly or encouraged on people who likely won't do it professionally.
@@EGarrett01 Psychedelics are physiologically safe. There is no physical risk of toxicity. You CAN NOT overdose on it.
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@@denofpigs2575 "On the physiological level, DMT can cause adverse side effects." The possible side effects of DMT include headache, hypertension, nausea, vomiting, and through serotonin over-release, seizures, comas, and even death.
@@cjmedson You just ignored my post and listed some side benefits of DMT use. A lot of things will sound good if you do that.
@@cjmedson you are talking about people with clinical problems (PTSD, depression, trauma..) and i get the value in it. I have doubts about the use for general population
mushrooms would disolve his confidence in certain matters
I think thats part of why he is against them, it would shatter his ego
He would have a bad trip, dismiss it as a hallucination and that would be that.
@@vincnt0169 bad trips are good trips. If he takes a ego death amount, trust hell change his mind.
His head would probably explode, I doubt he could handle "that" kind of information
@@kymma2589 yes it will change his mind before but trust me i know stubborn atheist type who have had ego death experiences and then when they get out of it they just go in straight denial about the whole thing and try to convince themselves it was just a drug and they ignore everything they were shown. So idk maybe he’ll come around but it’s very possible that he will just dismiss it and try holding onto his ego the best he can
I’d pay to hear a Neil trip tale 😂
Same haha, he's great at telling stories and it'd be so fun to hear his thoughts on it
Psilocybin containing mushroom saved my life. The drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit. it has also helped me to survive depression
I was having this constant, unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across bergwilly1, a very intelligent mycologist.He saved my life honestly
Anxiety happens when you think you have to figure out everything all at once.
Breathe . You're strong. You got this Take it day by day.
@@Elizabeth-gu8hx came across the comments about bergwilly1 and I must say he is a genius.
I’m feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety level. I am so glad to be part of this community.
Tripping is not really bad but find a good mycologist who will teach you the right things you need to know
The sunlight analogy is brilliant.
“ I wouldn’t advise anyone to take drugs, but they’ve sure worked for me” - Hunter S. Thompson
Well, he was an addict, wore diapers, and killed himself
@@allstarlord9110 life works until it doesn’t,,, go out on you own terms… a true artist until the end 😎 #huntersthompson #keepitherbal #legalizeit
@@GreenCloudArtOrg420 Don't get me wrong i absolutely love him he is a true legend
I'll pay you Tuesday for a cocaine today- HST
@@allstarlord9110 " never turn your back on a drug" 😎
Morpheus said in the matrix: we never wake up people who are older than 40, cause they cant handle the reality. Same here, he spent all his life convincing himself he understands reality, while all he did is reinforce constructs
This is the matrix tho, and its never too late to shake your foundations and perceive the world in a different light
@@LWLProductions Care to explain why?
@@LWLProductionsThese drugs can make you very vulnerable, this vulnerability is what I believe some people fear.
"does cocaine kill you?"
"It can if you're rich enough" lmao 😂
If there's anyone who needs to experience an ego death, it's this man.
I know people can be hard on Neil because on the surface he has a bit of an abrasive personality, but let's not forget how much GREAT work he's done in getting people interested in science (Cosmos reboot, anyone?).
The fact he's contemplating taking psychedelics, to me, only displays his inspiring willingness to grow and learn that he's always had.
Nothing wrong with being a bit hesitant to try a magic mushroom.
I hope if he does it, he does it with Joe; or at least gets them from Joe.
I've done mushrooms about 10x in my life and NEVER had a bad time (even the heroic dose). God speed Neil, may the mushrooms show you something new.
Using drugs to come up with creative thoughts.
It's pretty much cheating for untalented ppl. Like guys using steroids.
Neil wouldn't touch psychedelics because he knows that the experience would expose his deepest insecurities. The very same insecurities that he over-compensates for every time he talks over someone with his arrogant, narrow-minded, _know-it-all_ demeanour.
Omg so well said!!
Yeah that’s the problem when you’re usually the smartest person in the room. Can’t be mad at the guy for having an effing PHD and attending Harvard and Columbia.
Lmfao you probably have a degree in something useless
@@MiguelGonzalez-pc5cq “LMFAO” You’re either a bot, or someone desperate for attention.
I don’t think he necessarily knows that. But it’s true
He's a physicist; he works with verified data that's been provided through calculated and recreatable experiments.
Solidifying his understanding of what a hallucinogenic experience really is will naturally want to follow the same process. And how can you do that with a hallucinogenic experience.. hence the hesitation on his part.
Think he ought to try when he's ready, and it would be interesting to hear him discuss what he thinks afterwards.
Much love ❤️
In my perspective, weed helps break some cycles but it can become it's own cycle unless you stay self aware. Mushrooms can break cycles you never thought you were even cycling. Staying sober retains certain cycles, which in the mind frame of comfort zone, is like staying inside in bed where it's warm on a rainy day rather than going out and running and proving yourself you can withstand it before coming back into the comfort zone, each time going out pushing a bit further past your limits. Or, you can just stay in bed all day and just observe life outside from behind the window(sober). Red pill, blue pill.
Sober is a trap... they want us sober because it's when we are at our most anxious and alert state. That fear and anxiety creates profit...
If people are scared they seak security right? It's very easy to sell the illusion of security to scared people.
Think about every industry in this way it makes sense why shit is how it is.
Psychedelics flips all of that. Now u have no fears, because you're able to meditate and focus. Maybe that bill can wait another week... vs get a pay day loan...
Maybe you can write that movie you've been dreaming of doing. Maybe you should pay all your bills quit your job and go on vacation.
For me that's the best thing about them it turns off all the anxiety instantly and u can finally think logically
Weed really made me start to question how I live my life and who I surround my self with. I also have gained a almost new social consciousness which has taken away my social anxiety. I’ve also been struggling with an addiction and when I’m high that shadow disappears. Weed can show how truly vulnerable you are and how what you believe to be true may be wrong. So I can understand the fear surrounding these drugs.
I wasn't interested in science and mathematics until after my first shroom trip. In highschool I could barely pass Algebra 1, now I'm good with everything up to derivatives and integrals of functions. If someone like Neil took mushrooms it may have a huge effect on the world perception of the drug.
Using drugs to come up with creative thoughts.
It's pretty much cheating for untalented ppl. Like guys using steroids.
Once Neil opens up THAT box he will have to revise everything he thought he knew 😅
I genuinely find it strange that neil questioned if cocaine could kill you
The scientist testing cocaine toxicity died from it lol.
He was in his college workshop, & failed to take into account the paralysis caused by high doses. He had the antidote in his classroom, but couldn't administer it himself. He tried calling the custodian for help, but part of that paralysis is the inability to speak. They unfortunately found him deceased a few hours later.
He wants to try it for sureee
Wait, if he died all alone then how do they know he was trying to call out to the custodian?
@@DaleWalter96 He attempted to call him either on the PA system, or phone line, but couldn't speak. All the custodian heard was garbled noises. He didn't know what it was until later. An OD causes paralysis, including the inability to speak.
@@k-ozdragon That’s intense, what year did this take place?
For someone who does psychedelics and listens to a lot of McKennas work, it’s almost comical for me to listen to the naivety of Neil’s perspective haha, no hate towards him he’s a great guy, but surely science is about experimenting, if you neglect the experiment of your own consciousness then you are automatically precluded to learning more.
Man said “I’m scared to get a new perspective on life”
Neil's the type of person who would lie about eating mushrooms in order to discredit them. Joe needs to be there and literally watch him eat them lol
😂😂
For me wasn't about discovering a deeper reality. It was about realising that my senses only give me a very limited (albeit highly useful) abstraction of what's underneath. Whilst Tyson certainly appreciates this on a logical level, there's simply no substitute for having your assumptions about your perceptions dissolved right in front of you. It's a lesson you never forget, not least because you realise that there's really no clear boundary between your "self" and the rest of the universe.
If Neil had just one high dose mushroom trip, he'd realize he doesn't have a clue what objective reality is.
Objective reality is a meaningless term. Objective is in itself entirely subjective, it entails the apprehension of objects in experience, what could be more consciousness-laden than that?
@@aidanhall6679 You're preaching to the choir. That's why materialists need a heroic dose of psilocybin. With that said, I don't entirely agree that objective reality is a meaningless term, even though I understand your point. While we do experience subjectivity, there is an objective 'reality' that precedes all subjective experience, and it has many different names - Source, God, pure awareness, Tao, Mind at Large, Universal Consciousness, etc. Whatever that is exactly, in and of itself, is objective. The difficulty is that that objective reality can never be put into human words and concepts, because it's ineffable. That's the entire point of religious 'myths'. We can only point to it with metaphors. Ironically, it's who we all are when we're stripped of the subjectivity.
He knows that and it scares him
@@aidanhall6679 People like to use the word 'objective' to describe truths revealed through countless repeatable observations by different people reproducing the same result over and over, such as "if you drop something on the Earth it falls towards the Earth". I think that's fair enough to use this word in that way.
@@Shane7492 What does any of your bullshit have to do with psychedelics? People have come up with this nonsense without psychedelics and all that psychedelics seem to give you is a justification to make assertions about ultimate reality.
Psychedelics can't tell you *anything* about the nature of the cosmos, what they might help you to explore, if you are attentive and critical enough, is your own experience. That's it. You don't know shit about "objective realty", in particular not more than any astrophysicist.
This is a rare sight of a ordinary man out smarting and knowing more than one of our best scientist
He is a pop-scientist. Nowhere near "best scientist." he's a glorified high-school teacher. A cheerleader. That's it.
@@powerbottom4971 and you are....? A nobody who is in no place to judge his credentials.
@@jimmyrodriguez5670 Many of the best scientist in the world say that
@@shz6148 well that statement is so vague I no other choice but to believe it and toss aside any other perspective 🙄
@@powerbottom4971 I don't see a reason to believe that he's one of the "best" scientists, but he has a PhD in astrophysics and thus is much more than a "glorified highschool teacher".
I think if NDT experienced the ego death of DMT he'd probably just die.
hahaha
😂
Niel cant handle being educated😂😂😂
can u please put the timestamps on the description,so people can pick up where the video ends.
Neil takes mushrooms then all of a sudden he discovers warp drive by mistake or something.
Neil's reaction at the end is a perfect 1:1 representation of what the ego does when you decide to combat it LMAO
As an architecture student I produced some of my best work in my 3rd year (and I'm not saying this subjectively, done critiques with my lecturers who all loved my work) on trips. Like they really tap into my creative side in a way that sobriety never could. Also I've thought of mad ideas (mad as in wild hypothesi with no knowledge on the topic other than a level of thinking about it logically) before that I later googled to be true.
Hey I'm curious if you could share some of these ideas you had on your trips that you later googled to be true if you don't mind. Cheers!
@@Zonalyreyeah please tell us
That last bit hits hard
Neil seems like he’s reluctant because he doesn’t want to lose control of his composure. Which is understandable. I just hope he gives it a shot because it really has helped my life a lot. I can’t speak for everyone but there’s always been a lesson in the trip for me.
I've heard so many good things about Psychedelics like the psilocybin mushrooms and their health benefits, I also heard it helps one get through addiction and depression. I'm just wondering where or how I can get my hands on them cause I'll love to give it a try, I'm passing through a state of terrible depression lately and it's killing me
Plant medicines like the mushrooms have been proven to bring many positive effects on overall mood and serotonin production after just one use. Additionally, micro-dosing is very beneficial to productivity and overall feelings of happiness.
once I took shrooms on accident they were in a chocolate bar and my fat ass thought it was regular choclate 😂
[Adamsflakes]
Ships psych's*
@@userconspiracynut where to search?? Is it IG?
@@albert.robles7 yeah, He has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, LSD, DMT even the chocolate bars
If he had mushrooms 🍄 he would literally be Dr strange
the last line is my motto
I remember eating hella shrooms and i couldn't even operate my own phone. It was like alien technology no me. 👽
@Kate James sounds like a bust to me.
Dude me too exactly felt so foreign
The sunlight reference is beautiful
When I did shrooms I figured out I was a floating brain in space 🚀😅
Technically not wrong.
Peer pressure never goes away lol
Acid is one of the best experiences I’ve ever had. Definitely pro psychedelics.
Joe Rogan just reinvented Plato’s Cave with his example of the underground person who’s never seen sunlight and dismisses it
I hope he decides to give it a try one day. I understand his skepticism. They’re dangerous when used incorrectly. I experienced psychosis after too many drugs and I had permanent brain damage because of it, but I still think if I was more careful, I would have been fine.
How were you able to measure the amount of brain damage after the psychosis?
@@elib7911 I wasn't able to quantify the % damage if that's what your asking for, but I can personally tell that I have more difficulties processing thoughts and critical thinking overall. I developed memory issues as well, meaning I forget things more easily now. It's not age either. I'm still in my 20s.
@@modernlunacy4341 ah sorry yo hear that, I only ask cause I had a really bad psychedelic trip that left me depressed and board-line mad for 3 weeks or so after. Ended up seeing a psychiatrist for it but that didn’t help much. I should have and probably will see a therapist soon tho. I’m much better in terms of having foundational base of reality know though compared to a year ago. But I think the trip made it harder for me to process critical thoughts as well. I also feel as though my attention span has been cut in half. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully though some soul searching and therapy we both can get restored to our full cognitive abilities
@@elib7911 Thanks brother. Likewise and godspeed. Try to lay off the brain candy as well! I get cravings for f*cking around still, but I have to remind myself I was lucky enough to not be completely brain dead after last time.
Skill issue drug addict
If you do things better when you're under the influence it's only because you have hidden potential that you are not utilizing when you are sober. There is no magic ingredient to being smarter or more creative, it's your mind that holds you back, and being under the influence can allow some people to forget about what holds them back and use their full potential. It's just a crutch to never better your sober self.
its also a life enrichening experience that cannot be understood without actually doing it. With the right people in the right setting, its one of the most beautiful experiences the human condition can have. one must treat it with respect.
Can you out links to the full video
joe is on spotify now
Man it's insane to me as brilliant as Neil is he's accomplishing all that stone sober... him on psychedelics would be unstoppable...
I just don't understand why people choose living in fear and anxiety 1 puff and it's gone like instantly...
Psychedelics are just plant medicine that's it.
Fear and anxiety exist for complex evolutionary reasons. Simply getting rid of them is counterintuitive, you have to learn to overcome them and become stronger as a result.
@@failedabortion1894I agree that’s why these drugs can become a crutch. But with the right intentions and understanding of what these drugs do, I have no problem with using them.
From my very dumb perspective : Have taking mushrooms and having everything I thought I was peeled back layer by layer...It was the scariest thing ever, ... especially sdcary is how badly I wanted to cling to those things....I still do to some extent, because even though I saw what I was, those canals in my brain are dug too deep, I feel. Im addicted to old patterns.
I’ve never found the words to explain my experience on 5 grams and this is it
you are drunk.
@@TheUsedHu1k ?
@@maxswanson7197 I feel so alone, that your comment moved me to tears ; the fact that someone can feel the way I fell ( not saying im special just saying I feel alone) I responded to the wrong thread..
@@andersonjones We need to ban you.
His last line. "look at how people misinterpret reality when not on anything"
This is why we NEED people to alter reality, to have a better grip on what really is reality and what is not. If you've never altered your reality it can be warped by your own mind. This you trick your mind now and then to keep it on its toes. Looking for patterns that ensure you're still in reality and what you perceive as reality truly is so
ya he is literally talking about himself and doesn’t even know it. a dog changing his tail
Where can I find this entire podcast uninterrupted? I want to hear the whole back and fourth in relation to the mushrooms.
Omg so funny I can relate I used bourbon in my experience with architecture work. There is a time and place with the spirits are helpful and stress is a creative killer to sustainable ideas. Every substance has a different spirit and different influence on productive and sustainable creativeness. Learning to relax and find flow state either way. I agree guys
I think we have become way too focussed on objective reality.
Objective reality wouldn't really exist if there wasn't a subjective reality to experience it, so you could argue subjective reality is more fundamental.
This is why you cannot disprove the possibility of you being a brain in a vat or just a simulated being, because all we really have is our subjectivity.
I think our conciousness is way more linked to existance itself than to the material phenomenon we credit with creating it, and exploring that definitely gives insights about the nature of our reality, even if the experience and most learnings from it are purely subjective.
That being said, it's not for everyone... and i doubt Neil would be able to pull value from it with his mindset.
Huh? Objective reality is when you jump, you fall. When you write, it shows up on a piece of paper. When you put your hand on a hot stove, you burn your hand.
Objective reality is pretty important to keep a grasp on IMO.
@@POVskimboarding I'm not saying we have to ignore objective reality, but when you fall, read your writing or burn your hand, you still have to do that in your subjective reality, and nobody seems to care about this anymore.
We definitely need a grasp on objective reality for survival purposes, but if we want to learn about existance I think we shouldn't ignore the phenomenon that is quite literally the root of our existance.
He's the biggest ego on the podcast and it's totally in character to never have done them, he needs them
I've seen Neil backstage at a David Crosby concert... He owes it to himself to "Visit the cosmos" atleast once in his lifetime and I hope he does. Even if he doesn't go public. Just enjoy the ride like everyone else, for what it's worth to you.
@6:31 - Yes Joe!! Nailed it!
One of the brightest minds on Earth today, speaking with one the best comedic Podcaster on YT, talking about subjects I enjoy. More please.
Imagine trying to explain the feeling of love to someone who has never experienced love. Neil needs a heroic dose experience and have his entire worldview shattered.
He needs a gentle Microdose
Not everyone should experience shrooms buddy.
@@westsideAUKILANI Definitely not everyone, but Neil should. Buddy.
@@Shane7492 why? So he can agree with Joe? And no, Neil shouldn't.
@@westsideAUKILANI So he can become more open minded and realize he doesn't have it all figured out like he thinks he does. It's not about agreement. It's about being humble and open to the possibility that there may be a lot more to existence than meets the eye. Considering how closed minded he is toward anything other than his rigid and dogmatic beliefs about the world (I love science, btw), yes, he should experience a high dose trip. Now I should ask you, why can't you and I disagree?
Lsd go me into astrophysics like years even before I even knew who Joe Rogan was aha I randomly started watching Stanford University astrophysics lectures then I saw Neil on Jre
theres no way joe rogan has never done cocaine at least once
Neil is so close-minded. His head is in the stars always it seems.
How? That’s his opinion then so be it.
@ Z Hon - Says the stupid person who thinks Joe "human thumb" Rogan is a smart person. Dunce!!!
@@mariomartinez3354 it’s his opinion no one said he can’t have it but he is close minded this is also an opinion and an opinion that I also agree with and many other do too for many good reasons
In the stars is a free place
It's not for everyone. I had a few LSD trips that I would have preferred not to experience.
I really want my metaphysics teacher to experience mushrooms and DMT/Ayu. So many things connect..
He honestly made a great point at the end.
Get some Psilocybin down you, Neil!
Neil probably has the fear of the unknown. The secret to life is that we may never know until we all try it. Life is always unknown.
Neil's intelligent but not smart he's nice but he isn't kind
Lost for words at the end there😂
You can’t forget people say the same about DMT and LSD. The experience part is always promoted as a must.
Alcohol vs weed are you kidding? Of course you’ll write better off alcohol than on it 😂 ridiculous argument that’s your “experiment”?
So close-minded … he really needs one life experience to change his mind… even without psychedelics
The sunlight metaphor is spot on.
Dang peer pressure on a different level what a brilliant man LOL
Neil the type of guy to wake up his wife to tell her he's going to sleep
Tyson sounds like he’s arguing to avoid losing a bet
NDT is struggling here to exit stage orange and enter stage green of Spiral Dynamics. He loves that cold hard empiricism, and with some good reason woo woo turns him off. Joe's comparison of denying sunlight was very on point. I think all NDT really needs to do is read the research, look at empirical outcomes and phenomenology of these "drug" experiences and he'll be coming back to "papa Joe" in no time.
Joe speaks solid orange to him too, for example that the body produces the same molecules by itself. He doesn’t try to speak green language about medicine and love and healing and shaman traditions, it wouldn’t fly. Even though Joe could speak that language if he wanted to.
That last statement. I need to see what followed those last words in this clip.
Tyson's trip will make him realize that everyone sees through his lies of being some great genius scientist.
Pretty sure most people see him as a genius scientist. It's why he's on the show. I'm sure Rogan will invite you someday though.
@@k-ozdragon what are u idiots on about? Tyson's not a genius and has never done anything important. And he's insecure about it. That's why he's a science communicator and not a real scientist. Nothing wrong with that as long as ur honest about it, but he wants to portay himself as steven hawking so that people believe all the liberal political bs that comes out of his mouth.
I've never done anything and don't want to be on joe rogan. But if ur going to have a scientist, have one that understands math (especially an astrophysicist lol).
Neil is my least favorite human on this planet
Putin lover then?
hi, dont you think you guys developed some “hate” towards him? what exactly makes him “least favorite” (interrupting, way of saying things etc...)
@@Sammasambuddha No you can hate more than one person.
He’s annoying but there’s so many worse bro lol
@Jimmy Stevens
BUT...
He likes Putin more than NDGT.
Hitler
Xi
Add any name here
Lol.
Him talking about wine comparing them to weed and shrooms is hilarious
I would pay for tickets to go watch him stand on stage and talk about his shroom trip.
For me personally, smoking marijuana has been one of the best aspects of my life, never at work, never when driving, but if I ever need to do 3 hours of housework, fall asleep, calm down, finish a major work task, or even analyzing my life and my daily actions then its really the only way for me to do so. Never before had I been so productive, self aware, and able to do good things that I would never do without it.
When they were talking about coke Neil started playing with his nose and sniffing lmaooo
🦃🦃🦃Love the pt2.🦃🦃🦃
7:12 joe's gotta pull out the fake laughs when neal is on lol
I could remember several years ago I was diagnosed with ADHD. Also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms
It feels amazing to know about psychedelics all thanks to this online store I was able to get some mushrooms and they got some lsd gummies cannabis xtc and another stuffs
phramtrip!!!!
Minute on podcast?
Love mushrooms once a year littrally clears my mind until next time lol pretty colours and pretty patterns
The thing is, the examples joe provides compared to neil’s. They write different forms of creativity. Neil’s I’d argue are more important and he needs to be in control of himself to be effective. But for more freely creative writing, in my personal experience is beneficial to be outside your own .. sort of realm. In essence you’re providing entertainment for people and exploring deep corners of your mind. Neil is writing deep theories and physics.
I always said Neil was in desperate need of a monster shroom trip. He would learn how to listen again.
What book was he reading out of?
“I’ve got hydroponics” hahahaha 😂